Further Details on the Todd Snider Assault, and Why His Band Left
As the Americana, country, East Nashville, and songwriting communities mourn the death of Todd Snider on November 14th, many questions remain about what happened to Snider during his time in Salt Lake City leading up to his hospitalization and eventual passing. Snider was scheduled to play a show at The Commonwealth Room in South Salt Lake on November 1st, but the show never happened.
The reason for the cancellation given by Todd Snider’s camp on November 3rd is that Snider had been a victim of a violent assault on Halloween night, October 31st in Salt Lake City outside of his hotel. This alleged assault of Todd Snider is what set everything in motion that would ultimately result in Todd Snider dying in a Nashville hospital. However, there has been little public information about the assault. No suspects have been named. No video footage or photos of alleged perpetrators have been released. All we know is Snider did visit a hospital after the alleged assault, and received 22 staples in his head.
One complicating factor in finding information about the assault, and potentially why it was never investigated in-depth seems to have to do in part with the geography of Salt Lake City. Where Todd Snider was staying on October 31st, and where the alleged assault occurred was like in Salt Lake City proper. Meanwhile, the venue Todd Snider was scheduled to play called The Commonwealth is located in a part of the city designated as “South Salt Lake.”
Salt Lake City and South Salt Lake are contiguous, but have different police departments, and are different jurisdictions. When the alleged assault occurred on October 31st, nobody called the police. They were not called until November 1st when Snider was at The Commonwealth Room in South Salt Lake. So even though the South Salt Lake Police were involved, if the assault occurred in Salt Lake City, it would be Salt Lake City’s crime to investigate. The Commonwealth Room sits mere yards from the dividing line of Salt Lake City and South Salt Lake.
After speaking with both representatives of the Salt Lake City Police Department, as well as the South Salt Lake Police Department, neither seems to believe the alleged assault happened in their jurisdiction, though it must have happened in one of them. Salt Lake City says there is no investigation. South Salt Lake says they’re likely to close their investigation, unless some new evidence or information is presented.
“There was no assault in our jurisdiction,” Salt Lake City Police Detective Michael Ruff tells Saving Country Music. “As far as anybody can tell, it occurred in South Salt Lake jurisdiction. I know they will have a bunch of information about it, but nothing actually occurred in our jurisdiction. We arrested him later at the hospital. But did not take a report of an assault. We have no report. We’ve never taken an assault report.”
Records Supervisor Aretha Edwards for South Salt Lake tells Saving Country Music, “This case is with Salt Lake City. I’m not sure why they keep sending you guys our way to be honest with you. We did not have necessarily a hand in it to the totality of which Salt Lake did. They are the ones who took the aggravated assault information. I do have a Salt Lake case, and it did occur within their boundaries. So I don’t know where the confusion is.”
When challenged by Saving Country Music if indeed the assault did occur within Salt Lake City’s jurisdiction, Salt Lake City Detective Michael Ruff responded, “We have never taken a report of anything at a hotel. We have no idea where he was staying. That is all news that I have not heard in the last three weeks after dealing with it ad nauseum. No one has ever produced a hotel in Salt Lake City, or an address. That’s not something that’s ever been produced. Someone from his publicity team put that in a social media post.”
Detective Michael Ruff goes on to say further, “I don’t know that we will ever be able to determine what happened. Every time we tried to talk to [Todd Snider], unfortunately he provided very little information. Very vague information … So there’s nothing for us to follow up on in out jurisdiction. There is not active investigation, and unfortunately with the Mr. Snider’s death, that would stop any investigation because there’s not a victim anymore.”
When pressed on what would happen if the alleged assault was found as important or responsible for the eventual death of Todd Snider, Detective Ruff said that would depend on an autopsy report. The autopsy report will be conducted in Tennessee, and is expected to take 5 to 7 weeks.
As far as any active investigation in the South Salt Lake precinct, Records Supervisor Aretha Edwards says, “We do have a lead investigator on it. However, they might close it sooner than later unless something else comes up.”
Incidentally, Todd Snider did have another interaction with the Salt Lake City Police Department on November 2nd, or two days after the initial assault. It interaction occurred near 245 E. State Street. Snider himself also said after returning home to Nashville that he’d been assaulted a second time in Salt Lake City, potentially in a laundromat where he’d sought shelter to get warm.
“When he called later, he flagged somebody down and basically said, ‘I need an ambulance because I need some place to sleep.’ But at that point he’d already been treated for injuries,” Detective Ruff explains. “That’s when he was taken to a second hospital, after he was taken to the first one in South Salt Lake.”
Saving Country Music has filled out a records request for any body camera footage, or dispatch/911 tapes from the police interaction with Snider at 245 E. State St. on November 2nd.
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Another major point of inquiry from Todd Snider fans and friends was the characterization by Snider that his band had “abandoned” him. This information came both from police statements quoting Snider, as well as in the body cam footage from Snider’s arrest at the Holy Cross hospital later on November 2nd where Snider says this.
It has been confirmed that Todd Snider’s band did leave Salt Lake City shortly after the cancellation of the show at The Commonwealth Room. However, speaking to numerous sources with direct knowledge of the situation, once Snider was injured in the assault on October 31st and it was clear the tour would have to be cancelled, there was no reason for the band to remain in Salt Lake City, and they were sent home by the tour manager.
The tour manager then remained behind in Salt Lake City for a period to attempt to care for Todd Snider, but he was unable to, with Snider acting erratically and running off. Todd Snider did not carry a cell phone. It was the tour manager who called the police at The Commonwealth venue on November 1st after discovering that Todd Snider had been assaulted the night before.
Though there was no formal investigation, Saving Country Music has obtained a record from the South Salt Lake Police Department that gives some more insight. Patrol officer Tanner Doria reports,
On November 1st 2025 at approximately 1518 hours I spoke with [The Manager] over the phone about an assault that had taken place at 195 W Commonwealth Ave South Salt Lake Utah 84115. [He is] the manager for an artist that performed at the venue at the dispatch address and had discovered his artist had been assaulted the night previous. The artist had been transported by The South Salt Lake Fire Department to {redacted} Medical Center in Murray.
After not being able to contact the manager by phone, I began to head to the hospital to gather victim information and gain more information about the incident. While en route to the hospital, the manager returned my phone call. I identified myself over the phone and was inquiring for more information about the incident. [The manager] expressed that he didn’t know why I was calling and he said he only requested an ambulance and did not request police.
I asked [the manager] if he wanted to make a report further about the incident and he declined. This concluded my conversation with [the manager]. He never provided me with the information of the party that was actually involved and insisted they did not want to speak to law enforcement.
Whoever allegedly assaulted Todd Snider, and wherever it occurred, it resulted in 22 staples in Snider’s head. This could have also resulted in a concussion or brain trauma that could have affected his judgement in significant ways, and/or Snider’s overall health. Perhaps the assault is irrelevant in the big picture since pneumonia and sepsis is what is being given as the reason for Todd Snider’s death. But the assault is what set off the string of events that ultimately led to Todd Snider’s death.
If someone is responsible for the alleged assault, it would seem to be in the public interest to find this person and prosecute them so it doesn’t happen to anyone else. There was a victim of the assault, if it in fact did occur. His name was Todd Snider.
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November 18, 2025 @ 9:03 am
Thanks again for doing so much legwork on this mystery and not letting it rest.
November 20, 2025 @ 10:52 am
What about his band members? Have they made any statements? And his manager, after knowing his wounded condition he should have been there keeping him comforted? Sorry but something smells?
I can understand Todd not wanting to rat on his band?
There’s more band had to know of Todd’s condition, seems strange that they split so quickly after the cancellation? And Todd used the word,” abandoned “?
There’s more that the band’s inner circle knows……
November 20, 2025 @ 1:16 pm
Who the hell was his manager?
November 20, 2025 @ 8:50 pm
No assault. Just fell down.
November 22, 2025 @ 10:30 pm
Yes, thank you. Something is wrong
November 18, 2025 @ 9:14 am
Two things:
1. “Todd Snider did not carry a cell phone.” Does anyone else find this odd? Does anyone know why he did this?
2. “Whoever assaulted Todd Snider, and wherever it occurred, it resulted in 22 staples in Snider’s head.” I appreciate how careful you’ve been with this story, Trigger, but I think this assumes facts not in evidence. We know he alleged an assault. We know somebody put 22 staples in his head. But do we know that he was telling the truth about the assault? The fact that he wasn’t cooperative with the police doesn’t exactly lend a lot of credibility to his allegation. There’s an awful lot here that doesn’t add up, as you’ve repeatedly pointed out. Judging from the body camera video that was posted before he died, Snider seemed to be capable of cooperating with the police. Why didn’t he give a simple statement to the police about what happened during this alleged assault and what he knew about his attackers? Maybe he was assaulted and had any number of plausible reasons for not doing this. But I find it very odd and I’m reluctant to draw a straight line between He said he was assaulted => He was assaulted => The assault led to 22 staples in his head.
Anyway, I appreciate you continuing to chase details here. It seems like unless one of the surviving members of his entourage wants to provide some details to the police about the alleged assault, then the police aren’t going to have anything to work with.
November 18, 2025 @ 9:29 am
For what it’s worth, my husband has a cell phone but quite often doesn’t bring it with him. He was a late adopter who still finds them more annoying than useful, so Snider not having one doesn’t seem unusual to me.
November 18, 2025 @ 9:40 am
I agree. Its possible that Todd fell and hit his head. If he was in an assault that required 22 staples, then would expect that he would have had contusions/bruises on face that the cops would have noticed.
November 18, 2025 @ 10:37 am
Hey John,
From the very beginning of reporting on this, I have tried to be careful in characterizing the assault as “alleged.” I may not qualify the alleged assault that way every single time, but I agree that since we have no evidence that an assault occurred, it’s still alleged. I did add that to the sentence you questioned, but I also don’t want to be hectoring to people by repeating myself if possible. My articles are already too long as it is 🙂 .
I don’t know of anyone who doesn’t have a cell phone, but I do know multiple people—most of whom are musicians—who still use flip phones because they don’t want to be constantly connected to the internet. Todd Snider definitely comes across as someone who would not necessarily want to be in constant contact with the digital world.
November 18, 2025 @ 11:04 am
Thanks for the response, Trigger. I do appreciate how careful you’ve been about the facts here and not just posting Internet rumors and “sumdood said.”
I know of people who don’t use smart phones, but as you say, most at least have flip phones that will send and receive calls and send and receive texts. I know of very few people who don’t carry a phone as a matter of course. And it seems to me that there’s a difference between not carrying a phone around your home area and not carrying one while on tour in strange places. Around town, you know people and places and can borrow a phone as needed and aren’t really that likely to need one in particular. While out on the road, airlines and hotels and *everyone* are more and more expecting everyone to have a smartphone, rightly or wrongly. Plus having a phone on you at least means you can call someone for help, maybe instead of getting arrested.
Anyway, that’s all Monday morning quarterbacking. There are lots of different reasons for not carrying a phone. I’d be curious if you or anyone among your commenters knows why Snider in particular didn’t carry one.
November 18, 2025 @ 9:17 pm
If there only a single person on the planet that didn’t carry a cell phone, my first guess as to who that person was would be Todd Snider.
November 18, 2025 @ 11:56 pm
I don’t own a cell phone so Todd is certainly not the only person to not carry one.
November 25, 2025 @ 5:43 pm
And me.
December 4, 2025 @ 9:05 am
In a tribute podcast to Snider done on Rolling Stone All Access on November 26 talked about the fact that Todd didnt own a cell phone. It was just one of those Todd idiosyncrasies that contribute to his persona. It’s not a reason for suspicion.
November 18, 2025 @ 12:57 pm
Snider has always claimed to not carry a cell phone. Many of his stories involve him not having a cell phone (not like his main stories from the stage, but interviews and youtube performances). Having never met Snider and just sorta knowing how he celebrates bullshitters everywhere, and how he likes the idea of creating the person you want to be, I always wonder how much of what he said was true. I also assumed that by this day in age he’d at least carry a flip phone, if for no other reason than it is difficult to find pay phones these days. With all that said, Snider has always said he doesn’t carry a phone, and has told several stories consistently over time that back that up.
November 18, 2025 @ 3:00 pm
I was just listening to an interview of Todd Snider from 2019 in which he said that he still does not have a cell phone. He didn’t like them.
November 19, 2025 @ 12:59 pm
He only had a home phone.
November 20, 2025 @ 10:36 am
Because he’s old school and there’s no law saying you have to be a sheople?
November 20, 2025 @ 11:50 am
As a woman who has been the victim of 2 sexual assaults, which I did not report, it’s entirely plausible that the woman being attacked did not wish to press charges and Todd honored her wishes. That would account for the vagueness surrounding this story.
November 20, 2025 @ 7:59 pm
Well you just gone off the deep end and your imagination. No one said a woman was assaulted Todd was respectful and would never attack a woman. I don’t care what state he was in and clearly he was Ill pneumonia will make you delirious as will sleeplessness fever, and yes he did do different drugs for different things he was also suffering from spinal stenosis and possibly some other stuff. But to suggest he assaulted a woman shame the fuck on you
November 21, 2025 @ 5:32 pm
I think Rebecca is saying if Todd intervened to stop an attack and the woman didn’t want it reported that Todd likely would have been injured, but didn’t report out of respect for the woman’s wishes.
November 20, 2025 @ 12:13 pm
I too John, believe that there is a lot more to this story. This article is very informative but still leaves me some more questions? So sad that, to me he seemed so alone during the time after his injury.
November 20, 2025 @ 12:22 pm
There is going to be an updated article soon that will have more information.
November 20, 2025 @ 4:58 pm
Thanks Trigger
Keep up the good work.
November 20, 2025 @ 1:35 pm
Consider this:
I was in a car accident and was taken to the hospital. A dump truck ran the light and hit me and then threw my car into a brick building.
I didnt have my cell phone after the crash since it ended up stuck between the seat and console. The EMTs were not look7ng for a cell phone before departing to the hospital.
I never lost consciousness, but was disoriented for a few minutes.
I (thoughtI) broke my nose in the wreck (bags deflated after first hit, hit sterring wherl in second impact.). They took an MRI abd found I had a concussion as well.
Do dont draw conclusions about cell phones and head injuries.
January 6, 2026 @ 8:10 pm
A lot of people don’t carry cell phones. A lot of people short of cash don’t carry smart phones. Creatives don’t always like to be weighed down by that bullshit.
November 18, 2025 @ 9:19 am
Appreciate the digging, but it all just gets more mind boggling.
It really seems like the initial assault is trying to be swept under the rug by somebody. Was it a drug deal gone wrong or an altercation with someone in the touring group? It would seem there would be hotel surveillance footage and/or someone on the hotel staff would know something about what went down. Yet, neither police department seems to know where they were staying, nor has that information become public knowledge.
Is 22 staples in the head reason enough to call off an entire tour that had just begun? Did he get an MRI or undergo some kind of concussion testing at the time of his initial hospital visit?
Did Snider have health insurance? That could play a factor in the treatment he did or didn’t receive during his hospital visits.
If it had been reported to the police by someone that he was “on the loose”, perhaps a danger to himself, behaving erratically after a head injury, would he have gotten different treatment from the police? Perhaps he would have been taken to a hospital and admitted, instead of arrested and jailed.
Just some thoughts and questions. Sure does seem like something was and/or is trying to be covered up– even if it was just a matter of trying to avoid bad publicity and the situation spiralled to the worst imaginable result.
November 18, 2025 @ 9:44 am
In the early part of the police video, the cops removes a blue cross/blue shield card from his right pants pocket.
I agree with you that it looks like the initial “assault” is being covered up.
November 18, 2025 @ 9:44 am
He had health insurance, in the video when the police searched him he had his insurance card in his right hip pocket. This disproves the allegations they turned him away thinking he was an uninsured homeless person. One thing seems certain, there is a lot of information that is being held close to the vest by both the manager and the band, and until someone speaks up, what really happened will remain unknown.
November 18, 2025 @ 9:34 am
Thanks for looking into this more. l have had all these questions. But I want to say do not dismiss the responsibility of those who assaulted Todd because his cause of death was pneumonia. Chest trauma—even bruises— can cause pneumonia. I hope you will add that fact to your investigation. Were any x rays done before he got to Nashville? The hospital(s) that stapled his head and turned him away even though he was complaining of pain and difficulty breathing, these hospitals should be sued! Below is the info I found on chest trauma and pneumonia and walking pneumonia.
Yes, chest trauma can indirectly lead to pneumonia, including the milder form known as “walking pneumonia,” by impairing normal breathing and coughing mechanisms.
Mechanism of Pneumonia After Trauma
Pain from a chest injury, such as bruised tissue or fractured ribs, makes it difficult to take deep breaths or cough effectively. This shallow breathing (known as “splinting”) and suppressed cough reflex cause a buildup of mucus and secretions in the airways (atelectasis), creating an environment where bacteria and other microorganisms can thrive and cause infection. The severity of the trauma, patient age, and pre-existing conditions all influence this risk.
Key Prevention Strategy
The most important step in preventing pneumonia after chest trauma is effective pain management. Adequate pain control enables the patient to breathe deeply and cough, which helps clear the lungs and significantly reduces the risk of respiratory complications and infection. Medical professionals will focus on aggressive pain management and pulmonary physiotherapy to prevent these complications.
November 18, 2025 @ 10:58 am
Totally agree that we can’t rule out the affects of the alleged assault having downstream effects on Snider’s eventual death. That is why I think it’s important we ask questions about the details of the assault, and scrutinize everything that happened in Salt Lake City, and what mistakes were potentially made.
November 18, 2025 @ 9:26 pm
I’d like to know why the Drs in SLC failed to recognize how sick he was. Why would someone be discharged so soon after receiving 22 staples in their head? Any head injury requires at least monitoring the person for a few days I would think. 22 staples is major head trauma is it not? Wouldn’t his head be shaved partly as well? None of this makes any sense.
November 18, 2025 @ 9:43 pm
I wish I had those answers, and unfortunately, the hospital is unlikely to give them due to HIPAA laws, and the fear of a lawsuit. I have made contact with the hospitals that Snider was admitted to though, attempting to get at least statements from them about his death. I have heard nothing. It might not help that their switchboards and inboxes have been flooded with angry calls and emails from folks. If they didn’t know how “famous” Todd Snider was before, they do now.
November 20, 2025 @ 1:47 am
Exactly….he never should have been released from the first hospital and most definitely should not have been turned down by any hospital that he went to complaining of pain…..both of those hospitals should be sued for absolute and complete negligence and failure to provide proper and basic medical services which resulted in a death. With a head injury like that, he didn’t even need to have had any chest injury whatsoever to acquire pneumonia….which is why he should have been put on observation and never left the first hospital and whoever is the fucktard that was in charge of allowing that to happen and then allowing him to be wandering around a strange city alone, disorientied and cold in the middle of the night are responsible for his death….which could have more than likely been prevented if he had been checked in and put under observation for a day or more!!!! DAMN!!!!
November 19, 2025 @ 10:37 am
I called the hospital to ask what their protocol was for someone who shows signs of trauma, if was typical to release them so soon and why he was not readmitted. Guess what, no reply. I asked to speak with their public facing representative, but no response. I also called both the south Salt Lake and Salt Lake police department but they had completely washed their hands of it. It sounds like it may have been a preventable death if care had been taken in Salt Lake.
November 23, 2025 @ 10:37 am
Otis Gibbs said he was on ?bactron? For his back pain. Could he have been separated from his meds. I agree and also want be forgiving but CHRIST wtf were those nurses thinking and what a sad statement on our health so called care system. Please find some justice for Todd. I am also happy continuing to put Todd on a pedestal he’d want to immediately pull me onto to share a joint. Much love may some good fortune come to you, rest in chaos
November 23, 2025 @ 12:22 pm
Hey Ed,
Yes, I think the Otis Gibbs insight is helpful. I went into this in a subsequent article:
https://savingcountrymusic.com/body-cam-video-otis-gibbs-reveal-new-clues-in-todd-snider-death/
January 8, 2026 @ 9:13 pm
A competent tour manager would never abandon the artist they are there to protect . There’s something rotten in Denmark.
November 18, 2025 @ 5:02 pm
With a head laceration that big:
– he had to have hit the ground hard and once a victim is down the attacker almost always takes the opportunity to kick the living daylights out of the victim, almost always causing chest (and kidney) trauma,
– when a person suffers physical trauma such as beating or a major mechanism auto accident the toll on their system weakens their immune system and they are much more prone to get pneumonia and other infections,
– any blow that creates a laceration requiring 22 staples is going to cause a subdural hematoma or other brain swelling that can cause cognitive and behavioral problems. Immediately after the injury the victim may be lucid but the swelling and symptoms increase with time, sometimes taking 24 to 48 hours after the assault to fully manifest.
A childhood friend was killed in an auto accident as a young adult. He was literally across the street from the hospital so he stumbled into the ER with slurred irrational speech. He was Native American and the ER staff assumed (in his niece’s words) that he was “Just another drunk Indian.” The police and hospital staff seem to have assumed Todd was just another drunk hippie musician. So sad on so many levels.
November 23, 2025 @ 10:39 am
IFIf he’d been a bearded camouflage dude then what? CHRIST!
November 19, 2025 @ 12:08 am
Well said. I am an emergency physician in Australia and I know we do things differently but here a patient with a head wound that required 22 staples would get a CT brain and be admitted for observation – especially if he was thought to be intoxicated / under the influence of drugs. Pnummonia is as a well known complication of chest truauma, especially if the patient has rib fractures or is a smoker. The patient requires sufficient anaglesia to be able to take deep breaths and this also often requires admission. Patients that are OK to discharge are educated on the importance of deep breathing exercises and what problems to look out for that require them to return and be re-assessed. I have no idea what happened to Todd but the available information (if true) suggests he was badly mismanaged.
November 19, 2025 @ 12:22 am
Forgot to mention – if he was “knocked out” by the head injury he could have aspirated which can also lead to pneumonia.
November 18, 2025 @ 9:53 am
I appreciate your continuing to follow up on this. I am appalled at the SLC detective claiming to be off the hook for investigating further because Todd died and is no longer a victim.
November 18, 2025 @ 10:00 am
Also, it would be interesting to hear from that tour manager who allegedly declined law enforcement involvement.
November 18, 2025 @ 10:56 am
When reporting on the arrest of Paul Cauthen in South Carolina in 2023 for drugs, I took note of how the arrest report said the victim was “society.”
In this case, if Todd Snider was assaulted, there was a victim. Whoever victimized Snider could victimize someone else. I completely understand that Snider was potentially acting erratically over this period and perhaps was uncooperative with police. And now that he’s dead, there goes your lead witness. I respectfully disagree though that there is no victim just because Todd Snider died, especially if the injuries he suffered ultimately affected his health outcomes further down the road.
November 20, 2025 @ 10:44 am
Society is weird. Eph the Mormons Morons
November 18, 2025 @ 10:11 am
Who has a crystal clear photo of the Blue Cross/Blue Shield card.
Tod’s card.
Start your serious investigation, there.
November 18, 2025 @ 10:39 am
Whether Todd Snider did or didn’t have health insurance is an important detail. But I don’t think his insurance card is a linchpin to any investigation, or will allow us to glean anything significant. The hospital denied care, not Todd’s health insurance.
November 18, 2025 @ 11:59 am
Just another piece of the puzzle.
November 19, 2025 @ 12:36 pm
Hospitals are legally required to provide emergency services whether the patient has insurance or even the ability to pay. This is for both physical injuries or mental health emergencies. I’m not sure why everyone keeps.harping on the insurance card. My guess is that after he was treated he left the hospital against doctors orders. I think the only way that information comes out is if a lawsuit is filed.
November 18, 2025 @ 5:30 pm
Brother Trigg, my streetwise intuition has been tingling from the first reports. Was his assault a matter of looking for the wrong thing from the wrong people? Sleeping in a laundromat to stay warm? A second assault? Did his manager leave after Todd would not cooperate and would run off? The manager might have gone through this many times over by this point. I love Todd and not here to run him in the ground. It’s just that I have dealt with such situations so many times through the years. Mostly, I was waiting for someone to step up and inquire, so props that you did just that, brother. .
November 18, 2025 @ 7:00 pm
I’m a longtime fan of Todd Snider, but I don’t know much about his personal life from beyond what his autobiography covered. I’m fine with being wrong on this, but as far as I know, he was long divorced, didn’t have a current wife or domestic partner, no kids, parents presumably either elderly or deceased. Lots of friends, hundreds of thousands of fans, but maybe no obvious next of kin to push the issue.
There’s a lot that stinks about this, aside from the obvious early passing of a great artist that might have been preventable. There’s a real danger of everything just getting swept under the rug so I’m glad that if nothing else at least Kyle and this website are raising questions.
November 18, 2025 @ 7:34 pm
This also begs the question- who is the next of kin?
Who gets the money he left behind?
Was there insurance on the tour ie someone gets paid if it fails?
Call me a crazy conspiracy theorist but these are questions that are normally asked when considering motive.
November 18, 2025 @ 7:52 pm
It Runs Together hits really hard this week….
Where there is a will there is a way
To leave with who brought you to this dance
In my will there will be no way to dispute
That I left everything to chance
https://dn721804.ca.archive.org/0/items/ToddSnider2025-08-06.m21.flac24/ToddSnider2025-08-06t09.mp3
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November 18, 2025 @ 9:31 pm
Something tells me there wasn’t much of an estate. Accumulating wealth probably wasn’t high on Todd’s list of life goals. Any large checks likely were spent or given away about as fast as he earned them
November 18, 2025 @ 8:22 pm
Mom, sister, brother still alive.
This is in the obituary.
November 18, 2025 @ 10:24 am
Good investigatory work, my friend.
November 18, 2025 @ 11:21 am
What can the police do if there isn’t any evidence and those inovled don’t know anything or aren’t willing to say anything. The whole thing smells bad.
November 18, 2025 @ 11:22 am
You should take a look at Oris Nixon’s video about Todd’s last days. It provides some answers – as well as a plea not to get carried away with conspiracy thinking. (Also: chickens!)
https://youtu.be/qZldHLupe0Q?si=rzBQuVhs0K3IAqfD
November 18, 2025 @ 11:55 am
Thanks for the heads up.
November 18, 2025 @ 11:25 am
See Otis Gibbs new post on his YouTube Channel. A lot is explained. Otis went to Todd’s house after he returned to Nashville. Otis noticed a cough and suggested Todd could have pneumonia and convinced him to go to the hospital. He gives some details about the conversation he had with Todd and the medications he was on. He hadn’t been taking his antidepressants or his Baclefen pain meds. Otis discusses side effects of them. Strong withdrawal symptoms can result from coming off it suddenly. Todd told Otis his side of the story. Otis doesn’t wish to reveal that right now. He feels it would not be respectful at this time.
November 18, 2025 @ 12:00 pm
The prescription situation definitely adds some insight into what Snider might have been experiencing when we see him on the body cam footage. The first thing that happens when you seek medical treatment is they ask you your birth date and ask what medications you’re taking. As other people have pointed out, Todd very well might have been prescribed Baclofen and had that in his paperwork when he was arrested.
November 18, 2025 @ 6:47 pm
Thank you for this.
November 18, 2025 @ 11:58 am
Nice work, Trigger! That’s quite a story. The Salt Lake City / South Salt Lake City thing sounds like something Kinky Friedman could have come up with. (So sad he got bugled to Jesus.)
November 18, 2025 @ 12:12 pm
I would bet that the crux of this was him going to the ER with a non Emergency complaint. They told him to contact a doctor and make an appointment and he said no
November 18, 2025 @ 12:16 pm
All quite disturbing, distressing and very sad. It does appear that he might have needed help and did not get it.
November 18, 2025 @ 12:51 pm
You have done more of an investigation on this than the police have for sure.
As a retired officer myself and Todd Snider fan the quotes attributed to the detective in your article are horrendous. I’m very sorry he seems to be inconvenienced by someone being assaulted in his jurisdiction, or even as adjacent jurisdiction. This can not be the first time this has happened. Jurisdictions usually talk with one another.
The hospital staff was nothing short of awful and neglectful as well.
November 18, 2025 @ 6:20 pm
At 20:13 or so on the cop vid, the deputy says ‘So the jail nurse really needs for him to stay at the hospital’
The lead cop brushes off the comment and keeps with the witness tasking
I really think the cops were not working in the best interest of Todd’s health. Todd is alone, essentially homeless with a new head injury, imploring them to beg the hospital staff for a second evaluation, but they just wanted to book him.
They asked the charge nurse 3x if Todd made any violent threats and he said ‘no, just calling me names(that maybe I deserve)’. Then the security guard chimes up ‘he said he was gonna kick my ass’ and that’s when it all changed.
No arrest was warranted here. I’m a doc and we’ve had far worse terroristic threats from patients in our clinic and as far as I know, it was just a simple procedure of cops coming to clinic and de-escalating and patient leaves with no charges
When folks are ill and suffering, they can say/do things out of character.
November 20, 2025 @ 2:04 pm
Agreed. This seems to be the symptoms of a callous police department and hospital (“for proft”?) that are jaded by bar fights, meth, the “poor” and W*****t shoplifters in Holy Land of Utah. No excuses for police malfeasance, patient dumping and malpractice.
Stop mentioning insurance, its not an issue. By law you are treated (and the 1986 EMTALA law among others guarantees that).
November 23, 2025 @ 10:54 am
Todd needs a community to bring justice. Or at least reform to the so called care system our citizens endure. What do we pay taxes for?
November 18, 2025 @ 1:46 pm
The manager seems sus. He sent the band away
and he stayed to take care of Todd but really didn’t want to
report the assault to the police? Why?
“he said he only requested an ambulance and did not request police”
“insisted they did not want to speak to law enforcement”
How did he not know he was assaulted until the next day?
22 staples must mean he lost a lot of blood.
Don’t they stay at the same hotel?
How was he out of the hospital walking around alone
with no place to sleep? What happened to his hotel room?
November 18, 2025 @ 5:19 pm
As a fan, I hate to state what many are dancing around. It seems relatively clear that he should have never gone on tour due to what appears to be his addiction to something. No tour manager is going to immediately send the band home due to an injury. I would expect they would stick around and make a decision after their band mate had been treated and was stable. The tour manager said he stayed behind, but could not control him and he ran off. Many suppose that is due to the assault resulting in a concussion and delirium. There is no record of an assault, he simply showed up on Nov 1 bleeding from what he said was an assault from the night before. All seems very questionable. It seems quite possible he was in withdrawal, injured himself in order to be sent to the hospital for treatment and pain meds. After these ran out, or maybe were not enough, the next day, he freaked out and did what he could to get more, raised hell at the hospital and was arrested. He said he simply wanted to get some sleep and warm up…so he had checked out of his hotel and has zero resources to get another, had pissed his tour manager off enough that he left also? Way too many coincidences to happen to a 59 yo musician with resources. I have empathy for the guy and am a fan. However let’s not sweep his issues under thee rug and blame police for a sketchy story that simply doesn’t add up as he explained while everyone he was traveling with simply left him after an assault due to a cancellation. It sucks that he is no longer with us, but rather than demanding answers from the SLC police and hospitals, possibly we should be questioning the wisdom of anyone around him, (his band, touring manager, and/or any friends or loved ones he was close to) thinking it was a good idea for him to leave his home knowing the issues he was dealing with…i.e. pain and the meds he was taking. The tour was doomed before it started and they participated/allowed it to,happen.
November 18, 2025 @ 7:42 pm
22 stitches isn’t a serious injury to you?
His band drove off with his prescription meds.
When you abruptly stop these meds it causes acute pain and confusion
Add that to the fact that he had a concussion and this is precisely why he needed an advocate at the hospital, not a lesson in tough love or whatever the heck their problem was.
November 20, 2025 @ 2:30 pm
Agreed, you dont “easily” injure yourself to get 22 staples in the back of the head – likely injure youself in the aftermath.
Undertaking a tour is a major undertaking and if they had any inkling of what could be down the road, they should have said no at the onset. “Tough love” and leaving with his needs is appalling in this situation.
Doubtful the resources of let’s say Br*tiny, so no intervention of any circumstance, let al9ne working.
The refusal to treat and a second look is unethical and callous, as wrll as the jaded police action.
The worst is the hypocritical quick judgements who stigmatized addiction and behavioral health issues as a moral failing, not having G-d in their lives or other drivel like that.
November 18, 2025 @ 5:44 pm
Yes, scalp wounds tend to bleed pretty vigorously. Even if he hadn’t lost enough blood volume to affect his cognition, he and his clothing must have looked pretty scary.
November 23, 2025 @ 10:58 am
Im gonna guess he got a change of clothes after the first hospital stay where he got stitches
November 23, 2025 @ 10:59 am
Im gonna guess he got a change of clothes after the first hospital stay
November 21, 2025 @ 6:48 pm
I agree with Justin.
So sad that he didn’t have anyone with him. He was all alone? Where the hell was the manager?
And the band split too? Cannot believe that nobody stayed with him after he was beaten? I mean 22 staples, must have been a nasty gash. The hospital should have kept him 24 hours for observation..Just to many questions?
Also cannot understand why the police and the hospital acted the way they did?
I hope that we never give up on investigating what happened.
This is tragic..
November 18, 2025 @ 2:06 pm
It sounds to me like both police departments are trying hard to pass the buck. A lot of questions need answering. Why did Todd have to seek warmth in a laundry mat? Did he not have any money? Where was he staying? Why is his band and manager not speaking out.
Good work, Trigger!
November 18, 2025 @ 2:22 pm
This whole thing reeks. Sounds like NO one is telling the truth. A good reporter needs to start digging into this.
November 18, 2025 @ 2:34 pm
The police act like they can’t be bothered to get to the bottom of this. First, saying they will close the case because there is no longer a victim is an atrocious position for them to take, and would excuse them from investigating any and all murders.
Second, the South Salt Lake City officer dropping it after the tour manager said they didn’t want to involve police is also atrocious. He couldn’t be bothered to look up who was playing at the Commonwealth Room to determine who the victim was. How did he know Todd wouldn’t have wanted the police to follow up? They just took the tour manager’s word for it?
November 18, 2025 @ 3:02 pm
“saying they will close the case because there is no longer a victim is an atrocious position for them to take, and would excuse them from investigating any and all murders.”
Didn’t think about it like that. But yes, this illustrates the flawed logic here, in my opinion. Frankly, I think the death of Snider is what facilitates keeping the case open and looking further into it.
November 18, 2025 @ 2:42 pm
The whole mess reeks of a coverup. Consider that this happened in the center of Mormon country, can’t have any troublemakers here, ya know? I know who I’d like to blame…
November 18, 2025 @ 4:54 pm
No offense, but your comment is uninformed and I would guess that you’ve never been to South Salt Lake. Anyone that has would not consider it the “center of Mormon country”. It is a pretty dangerous area. I’ve lived in UT for 44 yrs, I am Mormon, and I wouldnt walk that area at night unarmed. The homeless population in So. SLC is rampant. Given Todd’s history with being mistaken for “Outdoors” Im not completely surprised that he may have been dismissed as just another “Junkie” . This entire situation breaks my heart. I’ve been a huge snider fan for 25 yrs. I had tix to Todd’s show that night. We were confused when we pulled into an empty venue parking lot with a hand written note on the door. I spoke to a women there who said that they had arrived a few hrs earlier and the bus was outside and gear was being unloaded. They went to dinner and when they returned the bus was gone…we drove home knowing something strange must’ve happened. Then he pops up on the news the next day. These last few weeks have been very sad. Especially knowing that my hometown was the cause of his downward spiral…
November 19, 2025 @ 8:09 am
No, I’ve not been to South Salt Lake. My comment was about “the powers that be”, not the local residents. I’ve followed Todd for over 30 years here in the Nashville area, and I’m as distraught as I can be; the last show I saw was the 4/20 at the Ryman, then Covid hit and then I kept telling myself maybe next month. I still think there’s a coverup. Perhaps the autopsy will provide some more clues. Kudos to Trigger for keeping up on this.
November 18, 2025 @ 2:43 pm
I just have to say- my boyfriend died this year after a violent assault, at the hospital the police told me they were aware of the assault, they told me they’d investigate it, have a report & call the witnesses and they never did. I wasn’t allowed to touch him in certain places due to the “investigation” which ended up being nothing and that breaks me heart. A report being made, the police investigation when they said they would or can is not guaranteed especially if there’s other health issues involved in the death which is fucked up. It’s fucked up. And no way to spend your last hours on earth being violently assaulted- in my boyfriend’s case. It angers me. So all the speculation as to if there was an assault then how come no this or no that? Just because there’s no report or official investigation doesn’t it mean it didn’t happen.
Love you forever, Todd. 💜💜
November 18, 2025 @ 3:37 pm
Who the hell is this manager? Elvis wouldn’t have let this happen.
November 18, 2025 @ 5:23 pm
Has Elvis said anything? I know they split on bad terms.
I can’t find him on socials.
November 18, 2025 @ 3:43 pm
I STILL don’t understand WHY his band left Todd AFTER he was assaulted and obviously not able to take care of himself. Who were his band members?
November 18, 2025 @ 3:54 pm
SUMMARY
* Todd was assaulted the first time, but he and the manager wouldn’t tell police where or by who
* Two different precincts have no details on the assault or even what hotel he was at
* The report was made from a venue he never actually played at: the tour was cancelled before the show
* No one knows what hotel he was at, and even if he had a hotel, he wound up sleeping in a laundromat, where it’s claimed he got attacked a second time
* The video shows he has a Blue Cross card as well as a debit card and a passport, yet police and the hospital still indicate they thought he was homeless
” The nurse wonders aloud if he might be related to Dee Snider, who he seems to think is a pretty rockin’ dude
* Otis Gibbs claims afterward Snider was relaxing on the couch at home and hadn’t been to the hospital, and only went because Gibbs suggested he might have pneumonia. This after Snider was arrested for manically insisting he be admitted to a hospital in SLC.
Anything else wacky with this story I’m missing?
November 18, 2025 @ 4:53 pm
Well, you missed (1) Todd travels without a cell phone; (2) watch the videos from the Englewood, CO tour opener and judge for yourself what kind of condition Todd was in before this happened; and (3) what appears to me to a credible comment (“He and the band for hire got in an argument and one of them was the perpetrator. That’s why he was alone. They left while he was in the hospital.”) under Trigger’s first story of Todd’s death says first “assault” was by a band member — this would explain why police weren’t called, why tour was called off so early and so quickly, and why the band “bailed.” As Tripper has said, this is a multi-layered story and to me you have possible head injury, possible prescription drug withdrawals, possible heavy (non-Rx) drug use, possible failure to treat by SLC hospitals, threats to SLC hospital staff by TS, a night’s stay in laundromat, a night’s stay in jail, and several nights unexplained before going into TN hospital with pneumonia. If the conclusion you reach is that this was preventable and it’s tragic and there’s plenty of blame to go around, we’re on the same page.
November 18, 2025 @ 5:41 pm
I had meant to include the cell phone! David Lee Roth has said he doesn’t carry a cell phone because rsavvy stalkers can use them to track you. DLR says someone in his entourage carries the phone. Maybe true for a lot of famous people.
Whether the pneumonia part of this story is true, I’m beginning to wonder. Guess we’ll know for sure after an autopsy.
So far, Todd Snider is in close competition with Gram Parsons for weirdest singer-songwriter death, and close to Bob Saget for a story that doesn’t sit right.
The worst episode of “I’m a Celebrity…Get Me Out of Here!” ever. What happens in Salt Lake City, stays in Salt Lake City.
November 18, 2025 @ 9:07 pm
The giveaway is “band for hire.” These were his band mates, his friends, not a random hired band. This person is absolutely not credible.
November 18, 2025 @ 5:51 pm
22 stitches to the head seems like a massive injury that would
require the hospital to keep him longer.
After arriving home…
Todd was ill with pneumonia but talking, breathing and alive
Went to the hospital to get help and died
How is it possible that everyone let him down?
November 19, 2025 @ 9:40 am
If sepsis had gone too far in Todd’s system, there wouldn’t have been anything the last hospital could have done. My husband almost died of sepsis a couple years ago. The surgeon told us both that the surgery that could save his life, cutting out the infection, might also be too little too late. My husband had a less than 50% chance of surviving, but he made it. We got him to the ER just in time. It’s heartbreaking that it seems like Todd originally did, but then wasn’t taken seriously.
November 19, 2025 @ 11:35 pm
The part about him spending “3 or 4 days in jail”…how did that go, did he get medical treatment, all inmates at a county or city jail or usually given a cursory look over by a staff nurse. Who bonded him out? In this day and age why was there even a bond amount given the charge—many cities just let folks out who have committed even violent crimes with a promise to return. Utah is that tough on crime?…name of manager please and band members. Would love to look them all up and see if they’ve been contacted by anyone or stating anything on line yet. They left that fast and without him??? Otis Gibbs knows something but is afraid of stirring up “conspiracy theories”, his words. I don’t blame him, but don’t hold back the Truth if it will help solve this mystery or bring us close to just who assaulted him. Internal strife maybe? Not saying, just sayin’…
November 19, 2025 @ 11:47 pm
Todd Snider was in the jail from the afternoon of the 2nd until at some point on the 3rd of November. He was not in for 3 or 4 days, confirmed by the jail. The jail would not disclose when he was released, or who bailed him out, or if he was simply released on his own.
The band situation will be addressed as soon as it can be.
November 18, 2025 @ 4:53 pm
Curious to know who the manager is. Logan Rogers? As far as I can tell he has not been named in any of the news reports.
November 18, 2025 @ 5:56 pm
Logan Rogers I believe worked with Todd on Todd’s recorded music. He was not the manager out on tour. One of the reasons the media is not reporting who the tour manager and band were might be because the torches and pitchforks have come out for these individuals by some Todd Snider fans that are not taking into consideration the complexity of the circumstances in Salt Lake City, and specifically that Todd Snider himself was in a state where he might have been difficult to impossible to work with, even before other extenuating factors arose.
I am not saying that some people are without guilt, and others are wholly responsible. This is a very complex situation. I personally am doing everything I can to try and get all the information in one place, verify it with confirmed sources, and present it to the public in a way that is responsible, and can be helpful to us all in trying to understand what happened.
People are still grieving Snider’s death, and they should be allowed to grieve on their time. Hopefully, the concerns and questions we have will ultimately be answered, and soon.
November 18, 2025 @ 6:03 pm
Does anyone know what hotel he was staying at or if there was a tour bus?
Does anyone else think its unusual that he was walking around alone for 2 days with a laptop, passport, debit card and insurance card after being assaulted and making 2 trips to the hospital?
His clothes are weird too(for Todd) : white chinos, a golf shirt)or equivalent and zipper jacket and loafers.
November 18, 2025 @ 6:47 pm
His unusual clothes ( for him) may have been because when he showed up at the ER his clothes were covered in blood and when he was discharged the staff gave him some donated clothes. Most hospitals have a few boxes of donated clothes aroundfor situations such as this. I worked pediatrics and was always buying nicer condition kids’ clothes and shoes at garage sales.
November 18, 2025 @ 6:48 pm
This video from Todd’s friend Otis Gibbs fills in a few holes, but not all by any stretch.
November 18, 2025 @ 6:48 pm
Oops, here’s the video: https://youtu.be/qZldHLupe0Q?si=bF2sN1wLRis2Vsm_
November 18, 2025 @ 7:44 pm
Police being police – instead of protecting their community because there’s a potential violent assailant on the loose they are victim blaming. Indicating there’s no victim because their local hospital(s) didn’t properly treat an injured individual and the victim subsequently died. Sweep it under the rug because PD dragged their feet. Newsflash – It’s not supposed to be victims doing the work to prove the crime took place and solve it. That’s for the police department investigators.
And paid workers for the tour, you can fuck all the way off for not staying with your employer and getting him home safe. Whether you were friends. People just collecting a check. If you were a decent human, basic humanity indicates he needed some assistance and care. You were responsible. And I’m betting the reason you didn’t do anything for him is because you took part in the actions that started all of this.
November 18, 2025 @ 9:22 pm
Again, I would strongly encourage folks to wait until we have more information on the band members, and we hear from the band members before people start framing them for not just abandoning Todd Snider, but somehow being complicit or a party to the alleged assault. As you state, they were paid workers collecting a check. My understanding is that after it was determined the tour was canceled, they were told to leave. There were no more hotels rooms, pay, per diems, and they were no help in dealing with Todd Snider in the state he was in. People also need to appreciate the complexity of the situation. Todd Snider was likely under sever duress during this period. He needed medical professionals, not drummers and bass players. I’m not saying that everything that happened with the band and manager was 100% right and maybe they couldn’t have done more, I don’t know. But people have built them into these boogeymen. If it was his band who had assaulted him, Todd Snider would have said that at some point during the body camera footage. He said they abandoned him, and that is Todd’s side of the story.
November 19, 2025 @ 7:01 am
You wrote yourself that the cops called the manager but he didn’t want to talk to them.
It might have been helpful if he filled the cops in so they knew what and who they were dealing with.
November 19, 2025 @ 7:21 am
Even if the manager didn’t want the police to pursue the “assault” for whatever reason. Once Snider went AWOL, it should have been reported to the police that he was a potential danger to himself and had a recent head injury. They wouldn’t have started actively searching for him, but dispatch would have passed that information on to the police officers he interacted with near the laundromat and/or outside the hospital. It’s quite likely they would have handled Snider differently if they had that background and context.
November 19, 2025 @ 8:43 am
Yes, this is a good point. That is why I double checked with both police departments about any police activity involving Todd. Was a missing person report filed? Was law enforcement or local hospitals told to keep a look out for him? Did anyone attempt to search for Todd?
November 19, 2025 @ 8:41 am
I think it’s a very important question why the manager brushed off law enforcement after initially calling 911. Was that at the request of Todd? Is it because he knew the nature of the alleged assault and didn’t feel like law enforcement needed to be involved? What did the band and manager do after Todd disappeared? I think these are all legitimate questions. But after talking with numerous folks who worked with Todd, or attempted to work with Todd over the last couple of years, they all say he could be difficult to impossible to work with. We also know his manager and band were not for-hire folks, but knew Todd and were close with him. The characterization that I’m seeing from some folks who basically say it was his band who beat him up and then left him on the streets of Salt Lake to fend for himself is an unfair characterization that people need to take caution in thinking or believing until we have more information. Not even Todd Snider is saying that.
November 19, 2025 @ 5:54 pm
If we are giving the Manager the benefit of the doubt, maybe they didn’t want the negative publicity of this situation coming out right at the beginning of the tour?
Now, it seems like the Police, Hospital and pretty much everyone involved probably realizes that this is a huge lawsuit waiting to happen and if he didn’t have an estate before, he surely does now. Any living beneficiaries and even his fans are the victims now. Pretty sure that cop knows this!
Trigger, this has been amazing coverage. I am a Community Radio DJ whose station brought Todd to sell-out concerts many, many times over the years. His music is a staple of our station.
November 18, 2025 @ 10:26 pm
I charged my car a few blocks from the Commonwealth Club a couple months ago. I walked around quite a bit to get coffee and just check out the neighborhood. Reminded me of downtown Denver when I grew up (I’m the same age as Todd was – old!). Slightly sketch area in daytime, but not dangerous; however, anywhere can go sideways at night. God bless you Todd, I played a tribute set for you on my radio show last night on KWMR.
November 29, 2025 @ 12:36 am
I totally agree about the lawsuits. The hospital & the police dropped the ball BIG TIME on listening to Todd & getting him the help he truly needed. They need to be held responsible. Sickening.
November 19, 2025 @ 6:11 am
…what a sad and freaky turn of events – murphy’s law working at its fatal worst. it seems there has been no one, who realised how run down todd snider’s health condition must have been already before the salt lake city incidents. that makes this ending even more sad and lonely.
November 19, 2025 @ 8:25 am
22 staples is a lot, and none are discernible in the video. His head doesn’t even appear to be shaved anywhere. 22 staples would take up a significant portion of his head. Otis doesn’t mention finding his friend with a several-inches long stapled wound. Are you sure about this detail?
November 19, 2025 @ 9:24 am
I don’t give a shit if he had a cell phone or not. I do care that however the injuries occurred, 22 staples indicates head trauma. Head trauma can result in concussion, confusion, disorientation and poor judgement and behavior. Seems plausible then that he might be belligerent especially to cops working alongside healthcare who seems they weren’t willing to provide further treatment. There’s a good possibility he had already developed early stages if pneumonia and had he been admitted and treated, perhaps this could have been an avoidable death. Instead we are left with a giant loss of one who felt so much, offered his heart and shared stories with heartfelt humanity. The cops are supposed to protect and serve. Hospitals are supposed to treat without judgement. And yes, there is very much a victim here. I am heartbroken and horrified that this is his end story. I hope his family will push for an investigation and press both the cops and the hospital about their lack of willingness to deal with a person clearly in crisis. Todd was right, they’re are a couple of dicks.
November 19, 2025 @ 10:34 am
Did the band beat him up?
November 19, 2025 @ 10:45 am
There is no indication at this time that his band or someone in his band is who assaulted Todd Snider. Todd Snider himself never alleged that. He said his band abandoned him. He also said he was assaulted and “mugged,” but he never blames the band for these actions. That said, we don’t know who assaulted Todd Snider, and that’s why we need answers about this. We need to know where it happened. We need to see if there is surveillance video or photos. The longer time goes, the less likely we will be able to obtain this stuff. Maybe it was a band member, but there is no indication of this.
Also, people need to understand that the folks in Snider’s band were not for hire, mercenary musicians. They were people who knew Todd, who considered Todd a friend, and probably knew that over the last couple of years, Todd could be unstable, and chose to go out with him on tour anyway.
November 19, 2025 @ 3:39 pm
Who was the current tour manager? I read his long time manager Kincaid was no longer working with him.
November 19, 2025 @ 4:20 pm
Elizabeth Cook had a bunch of well-known musicians phone into her SiriusXM show yesterday, finishing with Jason Isbell, on the phone. Much love, that’s for sure. Great stories. Todd Snider had so much talent.
November 19, 2025 @ 6:00 pm
They need to hire a good PI. If they have secured a good lawyer then his PI is probably working on it. It will take a bit of time to get answers.
November 19, 2025 @ 4:21 pm
I’ve never had a cell phone,Robbie.
November 19, 2025 @ 5:51 pm
Amazing detective work. And complete police incompetence. Sad. I hope they get to the bottom of it, but based on what you’re saying, I don’t hold out much hope.
November 19, 2025 @ 6:22 pm
Anyone with any knowledge about law enforcement and junkies would immediately guess Snider was in a drug deal that went bad. If he was ever assaulted at all. Head staples yet a full head of hair. Sure. Sounds like a junkie went off his nut and failed to take of himself.
November 22, 2025 @ 9:19 am
https://www.ksl.com/article/51408622/salt-lake-police-find-no-evidence-that-musician-todd-snider-was-assaulted
November 22, 2025 @ 9:50 am
https://savingcountrymusic.com/todd-snider-assault-determined-to-be-self-inflicted-injury-police-say/
November 22, 2025 @ 11:19 pm
Was there a mug shot upon being booked? Normally they would have taken a picture of and wound as well. Has any band members commented on anything? This manager WTF?
Nothing passes the smell test, and it stinks more everyday.
November 25, 2025 @ 6:29 pm
More evidence that nothing good ever comes of going to Utah.