On The Good & Bad of Oliver Anthony’s Country Music Industry Rant
A few days ago, Oliver Anthony of “Rich Men North of Richmond” fame released a 15-minute stream of consciousness video ranting about the ills of the country music industry. Some of the observances and sentiments he shares are true, and things you might be inclined to pump your fist in agreement over. A few of the things he says are categorically false and misleading at best, and somewhat dangerous to put out there in the public without context.
It all has become great grist for the online click mills, with outlets pull quoting Anthony’s scathing rebuke of Beyoncé’s Cowboy Carter album, and others claiming that Oliver Anthony called out Parker McCollum for using backing tracks—an accusation McCollum categorically denies.
But the lion’s share of the video captures Oliver Anthony ruminating about his experiences with a host of douchebag mainstream country music industry types in Nashville that all tried to steer him in the wrong directions. You most certainly can understand his frustration with that experience. But what this leads to is very serious questions of why an artist like Oliver Anthony got mixed up with mainstream country industry cretins in the first place.
“Those people look at you like you’re a fuel source,” Anthony says at the beginning of the video. “Like you’re an oil well. And they just want to see how much oil they can get out of you. And whenever they’re done with you, they just spit you out. You don’t matter anymore. And the problem is that the music doesn’t matter to them. And a lot of time the music ends up not even mattering to the artist because they have them singing songs and have them doing things that aren’t even theirs. So there’s not any heart in it.”
This expertly describes a large portion of the mainstream country music industry, though not all. It’s indeed incredible to witness the soulless, commodification of music that happens on Music Row, the lack of commitment beyond whatever is making the most money, and how this sifts certain artists signed to major labels into a black hole of attention, sometimes called the “Artist Protection Program.”
Oliver Anthony goes on to say, “Find some guy that you can build a character around, prop him up through your label, give him a bunch of songs that some kids over at the Hick in Nashville wrote while they were wearing their Crocs and drinking White Claws and hitting golf balls. Nobody that’s either written the song or really sung it understands the words to the songs that they’re singing. But it sounds good, and it’s catchy, and it fits the model. And it sounds like every other big song that been out in the last five years. It’s just like a rinse and repeat model.”
Then Oliver Anthony talks about how he ended up signing with a management company that didn’t share his vision for his music, and just stood in the way of all the things he wanted to do.
“People in the industry only work with people in the industry,” he explains. “So if you want to use an independent documentary guy, or if you want to unconventionally record songs, or unconventionally release them, or if you want to have any impact outside of whatever that model is, they won’t tell you they don’t want to work on it, and won’t tell you that you can’t do it. They just shake your hand and nod their head, and then stall whatever projects you’re trying to work on until you figure it out and start doing it yourself.”
Anthony continues, “So it took 6 or 8 or 10 months of me of getting stalled and manipulated, and put down, and discouraged to say the things I wanted to say to the point where now I’m just back to doing my own thing again. I don’t need a bunch of nerds and coffee drinking freaks in Nashville to tell me how to live my life. I guess that was my mistake for relying on those people instead of relying on God and the people I trust.”
But again, the big question is why Oliver Anthony was working with mainstream country industry people in Nashville in the first place? Why would he ever be interfacing with this side of country music? Doesn’t he know there’s an entire other industry set up as a counterbalance to radio country on the independent side that does allow creative freedom for artists, and can still facilitate expansive distribution of music and live performance opportunities?
How did Oliver Anthony get hooked up with the wrong people, especially after he showed what seemed to be such smarts and presence of mind when being interviewed by Joe Rogan, and said on multiple occasions as “Rich Men North of Richmond” was exploding that he was going to be very careful with who he worked with?
All the signs early on were that Oliver Anthony was working with the wrong folks. He was pictured with disgraced country publicist Kirt Webster. He was booked on bad mainstream country music festivals. He said early on he was being mentored by Jamey Johnson, (Anthony wears a Jamey Johnson shirt in the video, which he jokes about). But Jamey Johnson just released his first original album in 14 years. He’s a great person to advise Oliver Anthony on the artistry of country music. But Johnson’s completely out of touch when it comes to the country music business and management.
“One of the guys I worked with, he wanted me to make some stupid f–king post about Beyoncé’s country album, about how it was good, even though it was complete trash,” Anthony says in the video. “It just makes me want to throw up, trying to listen to the beginning of her version of ‘Jolene.’ It’s total cringe. It represents how degenerative our society has become that a Beyoncé version of ‘Jolene’ can come and anybody actually listen to it and not think it’s complete f–king trash.”
Why would Oliver Anthony ever be interfacing with someone who would be suggest he praise Beyoncé on social media? In what universe would that ever occur? As much as you can use Oliver Anthony’s words for insight on how the mainstream country music industry works, Oliver Anthony himself deserves blame for ever putting himself in that situation.
Anthony seems to want to blame the fact that he came out of nowhere with “Rich Men North of Richmond” for getting swept up in a moment. But the same exact thing happened to Zach Bryan, and he found the right avenue in the industry to navigate away from the Music Row puppetmasters. So have many others like Sturgill Simpson and Tyler Childers.
Even now Oliver Anthony and the people around him seem perfectly unaware that strong alternatives to Music Row exist. Or if they do know, they leave this portion of the story completely out of the 15-minute video. This is especially obvious when Oliver Anthony starts talking about performing at country music festivals.
“People don’t realize that a band can make $450,000 for standing on stage for an hour, and you’re only listening to half the band because a lot of these mainstream acts, especially in country, more than … like these country music festivals, everybody runs backing tracks,” Anthony says. “Like I’ll never forget, I won’t say who the act is. But it was at South Carolina at the Myrtle Beach one, the band who played after us, that dude had six Autotune modulators on a pedal board on stage just to help him with vocals pitch live. And they had backing tracks thrown in, drum loops running … they all do it.”
First off, no, they don’t “all” do it. And the only time you will see or hear anyone do it is at mainstream country festivals like the Carolina Country Music Fest that Anthony references. That festival was headlined by Old Dominion, Morgan Wallen, and Carrie Underwood. Oliver Anthony is a guy who exploded in popularity from a video of him performing solo acoustic out in the woods. They’re two completely different universes.
When you go to an actual country music festival, or an independent music festival, you never see Autotune or backing tracks being used. And when you do, it sticks out so starkly, it’s shocking. This is some of the polarization surrounding Ian Munsick, who is the only artist you will ever see at an independent festival playing to backing tracks. So when Oliver Anthony says this practice is all over country festivals, he’s sharing an uninformed opinion, and creating a lot of unnecessary collateral damage.
Taking Oliver Anthony’s quotes, fans started deducing that he might be specifically talking about Parker McCollum, who performed after Anthony at the Carolina Country Music Fest in 2024. Looking to mine clicks, Whisky Riff then posted an article about it, once again underscoring how Whiskey Riff is manufacturing drama at the expense of the country music community.
Parker McCollum subsequently responded in a video, “100% fabricated lie. I have never ever ever one time have I used Autotune, or a drum loop, or anything fake of any kind on stage. Me and my guys are rippin’ it the real deal ever single night. There has never been one single part of our show, not one note that was not live, raw, and in the moment. 100% fabricated story.”
For the record, Oliver Anthony never named Parker McCollum. He could have meant a different performer, and it could have even been a different festival. It really was Whiskey Riff who made Anthony’s quotes seem like a direct call out of McCollum.
Oliver Anthony concluded the video by saying, “Nobody talks about that stuff,” like the use of AutoTune and drum loops live, and how songs are written in the mainstream is a unique revelation on his part. But anyone who has ever spent any time on a website like Saving Country Music would know all of this stuff inherently. If anything, Antony’s insights sound passe and trite. Of course mainstream country music is manufactured.
When Zach Bryan first started blowing up, Saving Country Music made a concerted effort to contact him to not only conduct an interview, but to share some quick insight about the bifurcated nature of the country music industry, and which side to be on. In the case of Oliver Anthony, large efforts were also made to reach out to both Oliver and the individuals representing him. No response ever came.
Oliver Anthony is booked in 2025 at festivals that should be more his speed like Under The Big Sky Fest in Montana. But someone needs to sit him down and give him the lay of the land in country music if he’s talking to people telling him to tout Beyoncé, and to perform with people who use AutoTune.
None of this means Oliver Anthony’s criticisms of the country music industry are incorrect. But the independent side of country music now represents nearly 50% of all industry activity. If you think the only option is using TuneCore to release your music, or signing to a Music Row major label or management company, you’re 14 years behind the curve, and horrifically uninformed.
Kevin
December 9, 2024 @ 12:22 pm
Paul Cauthen just dropped an epic rant on Oliver on his Instagram
Trigger
December 9, 2024 @ 12:31 pm
Paul Cauthen is 100% correct here. It’s not that Oliver Anthony didn’t say some stuff that’s true. But it’s stuff any actual independent country music fan has known for decades. And by painting the entire industry with the same broad brush, he created a lot of collateral damage upon true creators.
CountryKnight
December 9, 2024 @ 1:03 pm
I am sure he did.
Strait
December 9, 2024 @ 1:58 pm
I’ll have to listen because I want to have a full understanding but OA is talking about many things that are true. Every major artist will have a social media manager. Idk how true or not that makes the Beyoncé album push thing but I don’t 100% doubt it.
The backlash to his statement seems to be an effort of labelling him an uneducated liar by correcting him on technicalities and thus invalidating everything he’s said so that the general public won’t ever know about live pitch correction or how fake the entire Nashville country music machine is.
Trigger
December 9, 2024 @ 2:12 pm
The people sticking up for Parker McCollum are Charles Wesley Godwin and Paul Cauthen, Not Sam Hunt and Walker Hayes. It’s 2025. EVERYBODY knows about pitch correction, including passive mainstream country fans. Oliver Anthony is not exposing anything novel here whatsoever. He’s simply casting aspersions against “all” country music artists in a way that’s creating collateral damage that is disruptive and damaging to the independent country music community. This is why they’re speaking up.
Strait
December 9, 2024 @ 2:55 pm
Yeah but Parker putting a horse under his ass is not the same as putting his hand on a Bible.
I know what I heard when I pulled up his past concert footage and listened. I trust my own ears over a reaction video from an artist trying to protect his own image. Even if he doesn’t always use pitch correction software live, the fact that he has makes the accusation still stand.
Strait
December 9, 2024 @ 3:05 pm
Sorry one final comment because it pertains to your point. Those independent artists have a right to stick up for themselves, absolutely. However I don’t give a rat’s ass about their concerns if it involves covering up or flippantly dismissing the issue for an artist who actually is using live pitch correction by saying that he isn’t when he has in the past, and perhaps at this concert.
I will be reviewing Parker’s audio from this performance and will comment again if there is another article on the matter.
Backing tracks isn’t the actual issue here. It’s prerecorded production to give a false impression of their talent, that is the issue being raised.
I play steel guitar and I feel I have a pretty good understanding of pitch.
AltCountryFanatic
December 9, 2024 @ 12:47 pm
To be fair, Oliver Anthony’s whole schtick to this point has been to passionately rant about things he doesn’t know much about.
Mike W.
December 9, 2024 @ 5:26 pm
Ironic considering the initial groundswell for him was most definitely propelled (at least partially) by podcasters who do the very same thing…
Nadia Lockheart
December 9, 2024 @ 1:08 pm
To be frank, Oliver Anthony just hasn’t struck me as an artistically ambitious guy from as long as I’ve been aware of him. I’ve just gathered that his music was the source of venting some frustrations about the world and that’s about it, but simply isn’t driven to sharpen his craft and just smacks me as inherently lazy in that respect.
Something about his rant also reminds me of Alan Jackson’s rants in recent memory about country music having vanished: when the reality is he’s just being presumptuous and isn’t actively consuming newer music. Much like Jackson just seems out of his depth there, so does Anthony with regard to knowing all the various independent avenues he could have alternatively looked into.
On the other hand, I genuinely love his traveling ministry idea. More power to him with that as his heart’s definitely in the right place with that and I concur that it is beyond frustrating that rural communities are seldom directly supported by concert tours or that you essentially have to travel to urban corridors to see more mainstream acts.
All in all: Anthony brings up some sentiments I can nod affirmatively to somewhat, but much of his
CountryKnight
December 9, 2024 @ 9:34 pm
Alan was right. His kind of music isn’t readily present on the radio – the source of his frustration.
glendel
December 9, 2024 @ 1:10 pm
“…for using backing tracks.” The 4th time I saw Leann Rimes in concert was at the small local “alternative” street festival, where the organizers did not pay for her to fly in her band. The backing [instrumental only] music track would start, and then she’d sing the [heck] out of each particular song, live.
I don’t think this type of thing is what Oliver Anthony was necessarily referring to.
Geoff
December 9, 2024 @ 1:12 pm
Remember that backing track all too well by Ian Munsick at that festival…surprisingly his two brothers who played as well a different day are really good.
Harris
December 9, 2024 @ 1:22 pm
My reaction is kinda the same to everything I have seen about the guy. He just doesn’t seem very smart. I have seen Parker McCollum once. He was not using backing tracks
The Original WTF Guy
December 9, 2024 @ 1:23 pm
“But what this leads to is very serious questions of why an artist like Oliver Anthony got mixed up with mainstream country industry cretins in the first place.”
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But he found out that having one reasonably interesting song doesn’t mean you get to be the guy you want to be or think you are. Yes, they probably wanted him to record songs written by others because it was quite likely what he was writing was not commercially viable.
Mike W.
December 9, 2024 @ 5:40 pm
Either way, he’s a 1-hit wonder. I guess I give him some credit for avoiding recording some slop written up by Dallas Davidson or Luke Laird from Music Row, but having listened to that “album” he dropped earlier this year I heard nothing that said going out on his own is gonna keep him relevant artistically either.
I hate to say that because the guy can sing, but he’s not a particularly good song writer either. The traveling ministry is probably the best path for him, and kudos I guess if that is the path he takes.
Jack
December 9, 2024 @ 1:28 pm
There’s also another side. Many people can’t reach their potential without the pros who make mainstream music in Nashville.
I live a full 8 hours from the Music City but the local acts who are successful here absolutely head to Nashville the first chance they get. They want to work at the studios there. Many people don’t ever get that opportunity.
Trigger
December 9, 2024 @ 2:06 pm
I agree. Oliver Anthony is calling out an entire industry and used the word “all.” It’s not even “all” of the mainstream major label Music Row industry that’s soulless. There are still people there with heart trying to push the good stuff forward. This is why we have seen many artists coming out against Oliver Anthony, including Paul Cauthen and Charles Wesley Godwin who might otherwise agree with him.
I call out “Nashville,” all the time. But I always try to make sure to give context, nuance, and leave an opening for exceptions. There are some incredible people doing incredible things in Nashville, and it’s a shame that these weren’t the people Oliver Anthony hooked up with.
Indianola
December 9, 2024 @ 1:44 pm
I met a young couple “Dressed up like Gunsmoke for Saturday night” in downtown Denver a couple of months back who would not shut up about Ian Munsick. I listened to his stuff the next day, and it wasn’t for me. I’m not surprised he does fake backing sounds.
Oliver Anthony sounded just okay on Joe Rogan but sounded knowledgeable when he sat down with Jordan Peterson. OA might not be a great musician, but he’s on to something culturally.
Mike W.
December 9, 2024 @ 5:33 pm
He really isn’t saying anything new though. I’m not super hard against Anthony, but a lot of the stuff he spouts “getting back to Jesus”, “modern society is screwed up”, “the world is corrupt” is hardly ground breaking stuff.
If YouTube existed 50 years ago, you would have heard the same stuff being spouted. Doesn’t mean he is wrong, but it’s hardly groundbreaking insight.
CountryKnight
December 9, 2024 @ 9:35 pm
The talk will continue until society figures it out.
Indianola
December 9, 2024 @ 11:50 pm
It seems like the majority has figured it out. I may be misinterpreting the last election cycle. Still, I don’t think it was pro-one party/politician as much as it was a rebuke of a particular culture/ideology that had dominated society since early 2020 (if not before) until now.
I’m agnostic and an old-school liberal with some libertarian ideas. Yet, I find myself listening to conservative commentators taking down that culture because so many of their points are valid.
JF
December 9, 2024 @ 1:44 pm
This f##king guy . . . .
Strait
December 9, 2024 @ 1:49 pm
I am not sure if my first comment actually went through.
Oliver Anthony is correct about a lot of things in his rant. Most importantly (to me) is about his critique of the use of vocal pitch correction being used live. The improper use of the word “Auto Tune” is giving artists wiggle room to lie by ommission. Yeah it’s not Auto Tune, it’s Melodyne. (Or a similar software) It takes the live vocal track and in certain spots it will snap the vocal to 440 HZ.
People who doubt me should ask themselves two questions.
1. Why are the live vocals perfect the entire time?
2. Why does the volume not drop at all when the artists mouth moves back a foot?
Artists are dodging most of the accusation when they say they aren’t using backing tracks. Maybe that part is true because pitch correction is not that. The Eagles have used prerecorded harmony vocals and strings live. Of course other artists will too.
And he’s not wrong about the new major songwriters being essentially rich kids on golf courses.
Most of what artists say onstage is horseshit anyway. I’m glad the vocal pitch correction thing is starting to be talked about.
Trigger
December 9, 2024 @ 2:15 pm
“I’m glad the vocal pitch correction thing is starting to be talked about.”
No clue what you’re talking about here. The pitch correct argument is so old, when you broach it, it feels trite.
Here I was talking about it 14 years ago:
https://savingcountrymusic.com/merle-haggard-jay-z-say-death-of-auto-tune/
Here I am talking about it 10 years ago:
https://savingcountrymusic.com/auto-tune-in-country-isnt-evolution-its-falling-behind/
Strait
December 9, 2024 @ 2:58 pm
Yet it still persists in live recordings and the brand name isn’t Auto Tune. It should be rejected, rather than its existence being ignored, or worse…just flat-out denied.
I won’t comment any further on the matter on this article but I fully content that any major artists claiming to not use live pitch correction is just lying.
Dan
December 9, 2024 @ 3:50 pm
This is fact. Seems like a lot of folks here don’t like to hear it.
Trigger
December 9, 2024 @ 4:06 pm
Show me anyone, ANYONE denying the existence of pitch correction, or of pitch correction in country music. EVERYBODY knows about pitch correction, even idiotic spoon fed pop country fans. Full stop.
Jimmy the Black
December 9, 2024 @ 8:18 pm
Hello, Straw Man, meet Non Sequitur.
Trigger said:
“Show me anyone, ANYONE denying the existence of pitch correction, or of pitch correction in country music. EVERYBODY knows about pitch correction, even idiotic spoon fed pop country fans. Full stop.”
His point is clearly not about anyone denying the existence of pitch correction and is pretty much about artists denying the use of it.
You also fail to address either of his questions/points in the original post we are replying to.
Strait said:
“People who doubt me should ask themselves two questions.
1. Why are the live vocals perfect the entire time?
2. Why does the volume not drop at all when the artists mouth moves back a foot? ”
You instead meander on about people denying the existence of pitch correction and then you even go so far as to link to 2 of your articles, which are seemingly about pitch correction, in which you routinely call it autotune, which brings us to another of Strait’s points – it should not be called AutoTune, it is more likely things such as Melodyne or similar software. His point is very valid in that people are now talking about it more AND that they need to. Get artists to be honest because if they can’t sing, they should probably stop and do something else. Call it having integrity, if you like.
People need to talk about it a lot more, just ask Ingrid Andress.
You seem like a cool guy and all, Trigger, but you are just coming off as angry in the last few months. Can I buy you a beer and a pour? I recently got my hands on some Pappy Van Winkle 23 year if you like bourbon, but understand that I don’t crack open a bottle like this for just anyone.
Trigger
December 9, 2024 @ 10:14 pm
1. Parker McCollum does not use pitch correction, AutoTune, or anything else, full stop. I’ve seen him perform multiple times. Never seen anything like Oliver Anthony is talking about. Nobody who works with, has worked for, collaborates with, has played with Parker McCollum is stepping up to refute Parker McCollum’s claims, nor will they, because they are true, and the accusations are false.
2. We have no confirmation Parker McCollum is even the artist Oliver Anthony is talking about. In all likelihood, it wasn’t. Anthony seemed to even be unsure of the festival he was talking about. The only reason this became Parker McCollum vs. Oliver Anthony is because Whiskey Riff turned it into click bait.
3. Watching a video online and deducing that Parker McCollum is using pitch correction in it “because I know” is not the way to confirm anything. If I made that claim as a journalist, I could be sued for defamation. It’s preposterous. Perker McCollum has played for millions of people, has roadies, stage hands, stage managers, other artists, etc. all see his setup. Let’s see if any of them step forward and refute Parker’s claims. So far, none have.
4. People are knee-jerk defending Oliver Anthony because they agree with his politics. And they will hold the line on this stupid point because they refuse to admit they’re wrong. Oliver Anthony is not in a battle with Parker McCollum. We’re all in a battle with each other because of Whiskey Riff.
This really is a moronic discussion.
Strait
December 10, 2024 @ 4:25 am
I’m going to break my promise to not comment further because I looked more into this and I want to offer up some defense of Parker McCollum. He is a good vocalist. Even on live acoustic performances he has a strong voice. (I could hear the most minor vocal imperfections, that are normal, in the acoustic recordings.)
Also I was reading on music production and audio engineering threads on Reddit in regards to pitch correction. I did not know that it is common practice to use applications such as Waves and others which are considered Auto Tune (I thought Auto-Tune was a specific brand for something older and I was wrong on that.)
What was surprising to me is how commonly used pitch correction is in live scenarios and how audio engineers universally regard it as just another effect like EQ or reverb and not something whose use ruins the artistic integrity of the “art.” I’m not just talking about audio engineers in the studio but front of house audio guys at concert venues. On Reddit they all talked about how tuning vocals is the same as tuning a guitar and how people are used to hearing that modern pop style sound on vocals.
I still hate the idea that vocals are pitch corrected at all and I just can’t accept at this time that tuning vocals is the same as tuning a guitar – in a studio or live situation. So guilty or not of pitch correction, Parker isn’t the sole target and in a modern context it wouldn’t invalidate his music anyway. And from reading a little more into it, artists themselves may not even be aware of AutoTune being used on their vocals, or they may just be at the mercy of the audio engineers.
Jimmy the Black
December 10, 2024 @ 8:09 am
I love your work, Trigger. I truly do. Sometimes I have disagreements with what you say, but that just means you are a good writer. Why does it mean that? Because you spur discussion in order to expand on the subject via dissenting views and opinions. This isn’t bad. It can get kind of hairy at times and often becomes bitter, but it is still a GOOD thing to have open discussion and believe you me, you sure do that well.
But where, at all, in this comment thread by Strait, did he say that Parker uses pitch correction? Who questioned [Parker McCollum] in this particular thread? Did you bother to even read Strait’s comment at all? Your reply is almost knee-jerk.
Strait is also not mentioning politics here, at all, and doesn’t seem to be pointing any fingers from what is posted in this thread. It reads more like a “we need to talk MORE about pitch correction” and less like “PARKER DOES IT TOO!!!!” and as much as I enjoy what Oliver Anthony has produced, he is right in the spirit of what he says about the industry as a whole, which you seem to agree with in this write-up, but he is wrong about Parker if that is who OA is truly pointing a finger at. Let me be clear that I hope he is not and politics aside – anyone supporting someone simply because of politics is a fucking sheep. You support right versus wrong and nothing else.
But you are tossing around non sequitur and straw man arguments in this thread like they are bales of hay. You keep harping on who is in denial, who doesn’t know, and who is being blamed when literally not a single name is mentioned in Strait’s post for this thread.
Isn’t that a bit odd, Trigger? Just a little?
Slow down. Breathe. Want that pour I offered? I think it’s delicious and if you have never had Pappy Van Winkle, it’s worth having.
Whiskey Riff need to provide sources for their claims instead of throwing clickbait articles around. They have done a bad things here. You are correct in pointing that out. They need to do better.
For what it’s worth, I am a Parker “fan” (I hate that word) and have heard him live. He sings very well and I never got the impression he was using pitch correction at all and to be honest, I count him as one of Country Music’s better male vocalists… he has a range that you would never tell from his early works and it’s a good range.
But, still, he wasn’t mentioned here. This post by Strait is literally only saying what it says. If I am wrong, Strait can tell me that. If I am right, then it is pointless to keep bringing up the points you keep bringing up. If you are more speaking about another post which I have no read in which Strait says “PARKER USES PITCH CORRECTION!” then fine, he said it, but he did not say it here in this thread.
I love ya, Trigger. I get your passion and I appreciate that passion. You know what you know and you know it well and to be honest, you are the only source for Country Music news that I share with people interested and that I trust for myself. You may not always be right, heh, but you usually are.
Strait
December 10, 2024 @ 3:51 pm
@Jimmy,
I did accuse Parker of using pitch correction in recent concert footage I watched of him that was posted on Youtube 2 months ago in some large venue. One thing I did not realize until further reading on Audio Engineer and Music production Reddit threads was how commonly used pitch correction software is and how it is pushed on artists to use it. There was a universal concensus among the audio engineers in favor of using it. They view it as an effect no different from EQ or reverb. They even talked of using it without the artist’s knowledge and commenting on how they prefer that result and often without realizing it. The audio engineers talked about pitch correction as a neccesary tool to produce a modern proffesional “pop” sound that is integral for overall quality of the concert, and an artists refusal to use it when deemed neccesary is viewed as selfish because it hurts the final product which many people downstream of the artist themself is dependent on that quality of production. They quoted pop and country as being the most common genres to use it. I realize Reddit is not an official source but there is weight to audio engineers speaking candidly and anonymously about it on a forum.
Parker is a talented vocalist. His stripped down acoustic performances confirm this. I do think it is unfair to single out Parker because whether or not he is actually using it, it’s likely that many other artists are using it and the use of that software is often outside of an artist’s control. And it can be use so subtley that it is hard to catch with the naked ear.
Jack Young
December 9, 2024 @ 2:29 pm
I forgot this guy even existed to be honest.
Big Bad John
December 9, 2024 @ 3:01 pm
Go see a Randall King show, guy has backing tracks and a 20 person band/crew. He has stadium show equipment for crowds of hundreds.
Sean
December 9, 2024 @ 3:16 pm
I think we’re picking apart every single word he’s saying here when it’s just a rant on a YT video. I’m not sure why folks take a rant from him so seriously and want to nit pick his wording. He’s a country boy, not a college professor. I can’t imagine all the people he had telling his what to do and what he SHOULD do. I would imagine it was overwhelming to say the least. Countless folks in his situation take the money and shake hands/kiss babies. Maybe we should applaud him for recognizing the situation he was in and taking a step back? I think we all know what he means by this rant and if anything, we should support it.
PeterT
December 9, 2024 @ 3:40 pm
Oliver Anthony likes to present as being humble, while also being full of his own importance.
rano
December 9, 2024 @ 3:46 pm
Oliver Anthony’s 15 minutes were up 16 minutes ago. And for all the negativity about Jelly Roll – much of it may be deserved but another story for another day – at least Jelly Roll keeps the focus on his own bad choices and gives maximum credit to the people who he credits for helping him make better ones. With all of the finger pointing that he does, how is Anthony any different from Taylor Swift? I can tell you how: Swift has been one of the most successful entertainers on the planet for going on 20 years since she was in her teens, and has avoided the financial and legal troubles that ensnare so many who begin their entertainment careers before adulthood (and many AFTER they are adults). So at least Swift has a position from which she can stand and point the finger even if you vehemently disagree with everything she says and does. This guy on the other hand …
Yeah, I contrasted Oliver Anthony with Taylor Swift and Jelly Roll in a way that positively reflects Swift and Roll. It is just this bad. Hopefully Anthony going forward can just fade into the obscurity of living a simple and honest life. Yes, he has talent, but plenty of churches out there could use choir singers for Sunday and Wednesday services. Find one, get a good 9 to 5 that will pay for a nice mobile home, a big enough patch of land for a vegetable garden, a hound dog with an agreeable temperament and be content. Who knows, once you are far enough removed from those real problems that YOU GOT YOURSELF into and have demonstrated decades of stability, you can find yourself a nice widow woman to get yourself hitched to.
Not a bad life, eh? Mr. Anthony needs to consider it.
Phil
December 9, 2024 @ 5:38 pm
Yeah but Jelly eat his damn boogers.
CK
December 9, 2024 @ 11:47 pm
This is hilarious, poor jelly donut
Dab
December 9, 2024 @ 3:53 pm
So the argument here is that this guy who came out of his back yard on a YouTube video should have known better.
What made him original was that he clearly didn’t know better and said what he felt instead.
It was fine when it was pointed at someone else’s dog, but now you don’t like it.
Trigger
December 9, 2024 @ 4:12 pm
No clue what this comment means. But the only one pointing ugly fingers here is Oliver Anthony. As it is expressed in the article emphatically, much of what he says is true. But he also painted with a broad brush and made some accusations that basically indict EVERY country artist, including dozens of independent artists in a way that was unfair and reckless.
There’s a lot of folks who have decided they’re on Team Oliver here, and are missing the greater impact of this moment, and how it’s created division among people who should be like-minded.
Dan
December 9, 2024 @ 6:37 pm
I’m sorry I made it so complicated. I don’t give a crap about the guy, but for all the music insiders to get butt hurt over his opinions is a laugh.
He was cool when he said rich guys were fakers and assholes, but now he’s a jerk cause he said the music business is full of fakers and assholes.
The fact that anyone gets their panties in a knot over his rants shows how high-school drama the whole thing is.
30 years from now someone will be writing a blog about what rebel he was bla bla bla
rano
December 9, 2024 @ 6:57 pm
@Dab here is the problem: there were plenty of capable, honest sincere people trying to offer Oliver Anthony advice and help. Anthony rebuffed them. He tried to do things his own way and it wound up being a debacle. Which is fine. But if you go that route as a product of the own choices that you made entirely by yourself, you have to own it. Anthony isn’t doing this. Instead he is attacking others who were willing to do what he wasn’t and as a result are experiencing the success that he wants but didn’t have.
The people that Anthony is going after don’t deserve it. And even the industry types that @Trigger can be very brutal – and in my opinion at times unfair – towards don’t deserve it this time and in this context.
Trigger
December 9, 2024 @ 10:02 pm
Exactly Rano. I’m sorry if Oliver Anthony lost 6-10 months of his career dealing with mainstream country douchebags. I completely understand how that could be frustrating. I personally reached out to Anthony and his people multiple times and through multiple channels to offer them free pro-bono advice for someone who has been covering the ills of this industry for going on 18 years. I never even got a pleasant “kick rocks” from them. So then I wrote multiple articles sharing this advice, especially after he was pictured with Kirt Webster. It wasn’t taken.
Getting hoodwinked by Music Row is a tale as old as time, and Oliver Anthony should have known this. I’m sorry that happened to him, but it’s not Parker McCollum’s fault, or anyone else who caught shrapnel for Oliver Anthony’s irresponsible comments. It’s Oliver Anthony’s.
J
December 10, 2024 @ 4:15 am
The fact that you reached out to him and he and his crew didn’t respond to you, says a lot more about them than you. Also, when anyone is willing to extend you an olive branch, you take it and listen. Then, you decide what to do with that advice. Oliver Anthony needs to get out of his own way.
hoptowntiger
December 9, 2024 @ 4:19 pm
Oliver Anthony has his on echo chamber fanbase whom aren’t necessarily music lovers. My in-laws love him. Every word. And they aren’t music fans. There are parallels between Anthony’s fan base and that of Aaron Lewis. They aren’t there for the music, but the message. So I can see this rant being new information to them and firing them up.
T-Bone
December 9, 2024 @ 4:59 pm
I think it might be the case that Oliver Anthony is a guy with a Chevy Corsica that had one amazing day at the local track. After that everyone billed it as a “sleeper car”. The problem is that when you get to the drag strip, it turns out to just be a good ol Corsica. Nothing wrong with a decent running car (overheats now and again) but gets you to work. The promoters and fans just aren’t getting the race they hoped for and the driver is frustrated too. But, at the end of the day, he doesn’t seem to be the kind of guy that wants to fix the car either. So we got ourselves a guy in a Corsica, and neither Nashville nor the media can change it.
Jake Cutter
December 9, 2024 @ 7:21 pm
The naiveté of his comments and “unique revelations”are kind of curious, but I think the other artists getting all worked up about something someone said, ranting back, or even responding at all, shows how sensitive and fragile a lot of people are. High school level drama.
CountryKnight
December 9, 2024 @ 9:37 pm
The hit dog hollers.
The independent crowd is as sensitive as the mainstream folks.
Trigger
December 9, 2024 @ 10:08 pm
I don’t blame Parker McCollum for responding at all. Accusations that he uses pitch correction/backing tracks or whatever are pretty serious for a guy who sells himself as authentic.
But my guess is Parker McCollum never responds if it isn’t for the article about it in Whiskey Riff. That’s what made this real. That’s what pissed off Paul Cauthen too. I said it weeks ago, Whiskey Riff is commodifying artist on artist drama for clicks, and this is yet another example of it. They will send the entire independent country music movement into a tailspin of infighting if it means meeting their Q4 revenue requirements for their corporate masters.
Sofus
December 9, 2024 @ 11:45 pm
Isn’t this a sympthom of our times? Everyone ends up in the trenches, throwing verbal grenades (or worse).
We’re so thin-skinned that every tiny flake of snow gives us bruises.
Politics, music, food… it’s all weaponized today, and everything suffers because of it.
I guess the joy of things, in general, died during the 80’s.
Trigger
December 10, 2024 @ 10:04 am
After Whiskey Riff ran a story basically saying that Oliver Anthony accused Parker McCollum of using pitch correction, McCollum had no other choice but to respond. Not responding would be considered a admission of guilt. I don’t blame McCollum for responding, I blame Whiskey Riff for taking a few online comments and turning it into clickbait. This is NOT about Parker McCollum being a “snowflake.”
Sofus
December 10, 2024 @ 10:47 am
I didn’t call neither of them snowflakes.
The point is; Anthony’s rant isn’t anything new, even Johann Sebastian Bach complained about the demands (and the lack of demands) in the business.
WR turned this into something it’s not, obviously baiting some relevance. But would anyone else care about this “beef”? It’s not exactly Kanye vs. Taylor stuff for the tabloid public.
My point still stand here; there’s too much “he said, she said” floating around in the various outlets. Sure, gossip sells, and in this world of thousands of articles a day the publicist does whatever it takes to stand out.
But in the end it’s nothing but a mirror; irrelevant entertainment meant to kill off a few minutes of our boring, everyday lives. A show directed by WR, in this instance, igniting a feud none of the participants actually started.
McCollum would’ve been better off ignoring them, and Anthony would’ve been better off if he simply went to a bar to spill it.
The average listener doesn’t care about the technical hoodoo anyway, so I’m not sure why Anthony felt he had to complain in public.
And McCollum’s fans will listen to him because they like his music, mystery notes or not.
Gordo
December 9, 2024 @ 9:57 pm
Saying they’re using 6 auto tune “modulators” just sounds like Ollie boy doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about. If someone uses auto tune they would use one single pedal to achieve the desired effect. I’m gonna guess on that pedal board was something more like reverb, chorus, compression, delay, tuner and a DI.
Sofus
December 9, 2024 @ 11:30 pm
He comes across as a Prince Harry. A bitter never-was who got a tiny taste of what could have been.
The entertainment business always acted like this (just ask Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart). And Music Row isn’t better or worse in the way they treat their artists. Everyone from Bing Crosby and Frank Sinatra to Paul McCartney and Beyonce ends up in the nostalgia clubs (at best), no matter the former status.
That’s how it is. I outlived my favorite artists, just like the N’Sync fan outlived his.
But we still got the music. And – I might be wrong – people will still discover Jimmie Rodgers, Al Jolson, Jerry Reed and Chet Baker long after I’m gone. But probably not Yello or Milli Vanilli.
Dennis Reynolds
December 10, 2024 @ 12:44 am
I love the fact that it obviously hasn’t occurred to him that maybe his music just isn’t that good. He was huge for a moment, not because of the quality of the song, but because a group of people decided to platform it for their own cause.
Tom
December 10, 2024 @ 3:56 am
…the saviours of country music walk in mysterious ways at times. care for a fudge round, anyone?
trevistrat
December 10, 2024 @ 4:51 am
I wish Little Debbie had not stopped making Banana Twins, myself.
Me
December 10, 2024 @ 4:11 am
Why would anyone waste a second of their time listening to Beyoncé?
Charlie
December 10, 2024 @ 5:08 am
If I have oil on my prop’ty I may want to hire a driller who can get the most out of it. But I’m going to watch them and make sure they don’t screw something up.
I’m sure OA knew what kind of snake he was picking up. Feeding his muse, I suppose.
goldenglamourboybradyblocker71
December 10, 2024 @ 6:44 am
Hey,Ollie,get a clue:I’m 71 and about three-quarters of today’s music,regardless of genre, is soulless (or in the case of [c]rap],stupid and/or offensive) bilge.
thegentile
December 10, 2024 @ 7:40 am
chubby white dudes doing performative, ill-informed rants while driving. name a more iconic duo.
and he doesn’t like coffee?!
trarmer
December 10, 2024 @ 7:54 am
I am reminded of the scene in Stripes where Francis demands to be called psycho and ole’ Sarge says, “Lighten up Francis.” Mr. Anthony, please pen me another tune. Your gift lies in the song, not the lecture. As for Paul and some dude I’ve never heard of who may or may not use digital enhancements at his shows, same – shut up and sing. And Whiskey Riff – for F’s sake matty, who cares what it/they say.
Bernie Davis
December 10, 2024 @ 8:15 am
I think that the people who are SCM fans hold you Trigger in the highest respect (even when they disagree). You are a highly skilled master at what you do — which is voicing your opinion using research, amazing analytical talent, and enviable writing skills. I read what you write because I don’t know, and I value your opinion. That does not make those of us who do not have your talents nor your exemplary work ethic opinionless. An opinion does not have to be perfectly stated to have value. An opinion should be a starting point. Opinions unfortunately are often dissuaded. OA’ is not you. You did offer suggestions to him on this site when he first was ‘discovered/exploited. If he didn’t realize how insightful you were then, maybe now he knows from real life experience what you knew from research etc. Maybe he isn’t a retiree like myself with time to read SCM regularly. You are probably right in your points ( as you usually are). But, now might be the time to re-reach out personally again. You are treating him as if he should also have your skills and background. He is perfectly imperfect and that is what appeals to someone like myself. I find it insulting that you think everyone knows about auto tuning etc etc. I don’t even know the terms. That is condescending even to me, a 75 yr old female retiree who knows nothing about music the way you and others do. My high respect for you makes me write this because I think the OA’s of the world need to be re-reached out to. It’s not just about saving any kind of music. Rather it’s about using your strengths to lend a helping hand as opposed to just a critical analysis. Who else could do this as well as you? You already tried once. Surely you can emphasize with all that has happened to OA.
Trigger
December 10, 2024 @ 10:16 am
Hey Bernie,
Thanks for reading.
Obviously, I value your opinions, and the opinions of everyone else. Otherwise there would not be a comments section here just like there isn’t on most websites, and I certainly wouldn’t be responding.
I most certainly can appreciate that Oliver Anthony does not have the time to respond to every inquiry sent to him. I don’t expect him to even know a website like Saving Country Music exists. What I don’t appreciate is that he basically painted everyone who has ever played a country music festival as being fake from using digital enhancements behind their music, while also being paid “$450,000,” which is only what a top-tier headliner would make. That is an incorrect, and irresponsible accusation, especially when it came down on a specific performer, Parker McCollum, which every indication points to him NOT doing any of the things Oliver Anthony accused.
I appreciate that some people might not know what AutoTune or other things might be. But the idea that enhancements are being used and the public has no knowledge of this is incorrect. Oliver Anthony is in no way the first to talk about these things.
Bernie Davis
December 10, 2024 @ 2:07 pm
Trig, your perspective is highly valued and predictably correct. You are amazing! Some of us aren’t as amazing. Hopefully OA will realize his voice and music aren’t amazing, but that he as a person can still be amazing in how he learns from his experiences. It’s never too late to learn. Thx Trig for all that you do. Unbelievable actually.
Scott S.
December 10, 2024 @ 8:25 am
I initially thought Anthony was alright with his song about the plight of the average Joe. But his music since wasn’t more than ok, and the rantings about the man has become a schtick.
That said, I can see where some of his frustrations come from regarding his new boogie man country music. Music row was never really interested in him. He doesn’t fit their model. They simply tried to capitalize on his 15 seconds.
And while it’s easy to say he should have went the independent route, he doesn’t fit in there either. He became an overnight sensation by pushing a political narrative that is the opposite of the preferred agenda of most of the independent artists. Even if you take away the political aspect, the jealousy of success for an artist who’s career consisted of playing a Guitar in his backyard is enough to make him an outsider. Anthony is playing festivals many long time artists may never achieve. The fact many of them are already reacting as if he is attacking them rather than the system is proof enough of that.
I have a feeling Anthony’s 15 seconds are almost over.
Happy Dan
December 10, 2024 @ 9:50 am
Is Oliver Anthony just a perpetually angry guy?
I hope he can break the routine at some point, it’s tiresome. So is his music.
Interstate Daydreamer
December 10, 2024 @ 11:17 am
That was my thought exactly. I can’t imagine anyone getting along with this guy.
Heyday
December 13, 2024 @ 1:35 am
He sings about disillusionment but it is always somebody else’s fault with this guy. He’ll sing about not being able to get ahead in the world, and a couple of lines later he sings about being drunk or wanting to smoke a bowl. I dunno, but maybe employers want employees who show up sober and straight?
Seems like his disillusionment with the music business stems from HIS choices and decisions, yet he can’t bring himself to admit that. So he rages against stuff he knows little about.
The alarm on this guy’s 15-minutes-of-fame timer went off long ago. He needs to get serious or get out. Start writing better songs that don’t all say the same thing.
ThisIsCountryMusic
December 10, 2024 @ 12:06 pm
Basically – he wrote one song that was about 75% quite insightful & 25% embarrassing cliche. Since then he hasn’t done much. He doesn’t really seem to be a musician or all for a music career. His criticisms of the mainstream country scene are old hat, anybody even slightly interested in the scene has heard this all before. Zach Bryan’s career proves that most of the things he’s saying aren’t even relevant anymore.
And then (small point to most I’m sure) he has the nerve to talk about trusting in God, having got famous from a song where he consistently blasphemes God.
Hank
December 10, 2024 @ 3:15 pm
Yeah, total bitch made cat. Fuck this clown.
PeterT
December 10, 2024 @ 12:30 pm
Seems like this dude has the ability to solve the debate once and for all.
https://www.youtube.com/@wingsofpegasus
Interesting channel, he has highlighted how The Eras tour is basically a dance show and TS is doing limited singing (either not at all, or pitch corrected). Does that bother me – not that much, I watched the Disney+ version with my daughter and they put on an incredible show.
The video below shows how they chose to use live vocals at the recent CMAs, and highlights how good a vocalist Lainey Wilson is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IxDLJCJhLA
Corncaster
December 10, 2024 @ 1:19 pm
Trig is right that Oliver could’ve known better and so saved a few foots put in his mouth, but a rant is a rant, not a reasoned treatise.
I hope Oliver continues to write and perform the way he wants to. We need him and everyone else who has something to say and figures out a way of saying it that’s genuine, powerful, and not turned to crap by commercial interests.
Same goes for everyone.
Hank
December 10, 2024 @ 3:14 pm
I would honestly rather listen to Fat Joe than this clown.
Roscoe Browne
December 10, 2024 @ 4:17 pm
So is the coffee drinking the reason those “nerds” are “freaks”, or is the coffee drinking just supplemental to their freakishness? I’m a little concerned because I drink coffee ..
BDE
December 10, 2024 @ 4:46 pm
There’s no way Parker Mccollum uses pitch correction live because his live vocals are garbage.
Keepin’ it Country
December 11, 2024 @ 8:48 pm
And so are his recorded ones
Hank III
December 10, 2024 @ 5:25 pm
Anthony (or those who advise him) clearly knows how to stir up controversy to generate publicity. You all fell for it at least a second time. Hell, he could probably run Music Row. Now, about that ministry…
goldenglamourboybradyblocker71
December 10, 2024 @ 7:11 pm
Methinks Ollie is paving the way for another chart entry.
Di Harris
December 10, 2024 @ 7:58 pm
Paul Cauthen.
What a whiny, little shit.
Reminds me of the whiny little shit i stepped up into, this past Saturday. And, shut the game down.
Entitled little pricks.
thegentile
December 11, 2024 @ 7:42 am
uh huh. sure.
Di Harris
December 11, 2024 @ 9:24 am
: D Good morning.
Chad
December 10, 2024 @ 8:22 pm
Who cares? Get a life.
Jay eff
December 11, 2024 @ 8:41 am
This guy is trash and is trying to stay relevant. That song was a dumb rant anyway. Not that I don’t agree with sentiments about mainstream and Nashville, but time to go back to your shack bro. Don’t try to take others down.
Jimmy
December 11, 2024 @ 5:38 pm
“…the same exact thing happened to Zach Bryan.”
No disrespect to Oliver, but I think Zach is a little more stable. I have yet to find one song I like of Zach’s, but the guy was able to ride the wave and surround himself with people who understood HIS vision. And good on him. Oliver seems to be struggling with mental health issues. Some people should not be in the spotlight. I hope he finds some peace and purpose.
Doug
December 12, 2024 @ 6:43 pm
Man, if this guy’s music is as original as his rap, you’d think he’d fit right in with mainstream country radio.
Ian
December 15, 2024 @ 5:17 pm
We have known that Oliver was a no talent hack from the jump. No serious writer would rhyme “rich men” with “Richmond” and not immediately die of embarrassment when the song took off. As for him sounding smart on Joe Rogans little show, how could he not when the host himself admits to being a moron who nobody should listen to.