Once Again, The Criticisms of Zach Bryan Deserve Context

So once again we find ourselves in a situation where the public is being asked to judge the personal character of Zach Bryan, and potentially question their fandom after a couple of his fellow performers have come forward to accuse Bryan of basically not being the greatest of people. But it feels like there is a lot of nuance, and a lot of context missing from this situation, as is common in these instances.
The latest accusations are not stemming from an arrest like they were in September of 2023 when Bryan was taken into custody in Vinita, Oklahoma as part of a routine traffic stop, which ultimately ended up being a big nothing burger. Zach Bryan was well within his rights to observe the traffic stop before getting booked on “Obstruction of Investigation” charges. The most damaging part of that incident is Bryan was caught on camera basically doing the “Don’t you know who I am?” thing, while at the same time trying to be conciliatory and respectful.
The latest accusations are also not stemming from a big breakup like they were when Zach ended his relationship with podcaster Brianna “Chickenfry” LaPaglia—who by the way, trades in celebrity gossip as a profession. Were there concerning accusations that came out in the dissolving of that relationship with LaPaglia? Absolutely. Has Brianna ever accused Zach Bryan of being physically abusive toward her, or any incidents of sexual assault or anything similar? Absolutely not.
Even the worst of the accusations boil down to “bad boyfriend” stuff about being moody and possessive. None of it looks good for Zach Bryan, but some, most, or all of the accusations are stuff that you could get most any ex-girlfriend to complain about from a former beau. There’s also two sides to every story, and when it comes to the Chickenfry stuff, we’ve only heard one side.
If you interviewed the ex-wives of Jason Isbell—Shonna Tucker and Amanda Shires—they would likely tell you things similar to what Zach Bryan’s ex has said. In fact, in the promotion of Isbell’s album Reunions, they used Isbell’s rude behavior to Amanda Shires as the foundation for a New York Times spread and an HBO documentary. Somehow in those moments, Isbell’s bad relationship behavior was portrayed as humanizing and erudite.
And by the way, ever since the revelations from Ms. Chickenfry came out, further revelations have come out about her. She’s received criticism for allegedly dumping her best friend of 15 years and fellow podcast co-host Grace O’Malley as soon as LaPaglia became super popular, in part due to the Zach Bryan relationship. Another co-worker named Kurt Minihane also has said about Brianna, “…she’s a repugnant human being … And everybody at [Basrstool Sports] hates her.“
And let’s all acknowledge that all of this is veering well into the realm of celebrity gossip and social media pot stirring, which should probably tell you the lack of severity behind the accusations. Zach Bryan’s relationship with Brianna Chickenfry was a messy situation between two messy people. It’s probably unfair to completely write off Zach Bryan over the matter. Brianna promised there was “more” coming. That “more” has never really materialized.
But the Zach Bryan revelations over the last week or so do not stem from any scandalous romantic relationship or a legal spat. They’ve come out in the aftermath of Bryan re-signing with Warner Records for two more albums, and reportedly signing a massive $350 million publishing deal—an unprecedented figure for an artist of Zach Bryan’s age. For context, Bob Dylan sold his publishing catalog for $300 million.
The $350 million figure has inspired some anger, and some envy within the artist community. On Wednesday, May 7th, fellow Oklahoma songwriter John Moreland took to his Instagram story to post, “$350 M is a lot of money to pay for the fu–in off-brand version of me. Y’all have a great day.”

For the record, John Moreland shortly deleted the post, but not before it had been screenshot and spread all over the internet.
Zach Bryan has regularly praised Moreland throughout his career, saying Moreland is “on a level all his own” and “precise, deeply thoughtful, and truly monolithic.” Moreland also appeared on Zach Bryan’s song “Memphis: The Blues” from the 2024 album The Great American Bar Scene. The song was Moreland’s most-streamed track from his catalog.
Moreland was not the first beneficiary of a Zach Bryan guest spot. Sierra Ferrell and the song “Holy Roller,” and The War and Treaty collab “Hey Driver” both are the top streaming songs from their respective catalogs thanks to Zach Bryan, with “Hey Driver” now being Certified Platinum. Charles Wesley Godwin received a big boost from Bryan who took Godwin out on tour, and featured Godwin on the track “Jamie” on his Summertime Blues EP in 2022.
Arguably Zach Bryan did more for the career of Kacey Musgraves than the entire country industry ever did, with their collaboration “I Remember Everything” now Certified Double Platinum, and receiving over 1 billion streams on Spotify alone. Noeline Hoffmann has a promising music career thanks to Zach Bryan covering her song “Purple Gas.”
But after John Moreland’s Instagram story post got to Zach Bryan, he responded on May 9th saying, “yooo just saw this from an artist I’ve always respected and supported. Not trying to be dramatic but refuse to have anyone with a problem with me on my records. Replacing Memphis the Blues. If it goes down for a bit just know this is the reason! No hard feelings! Confused as s**t, Tulsans look out for Tulsans!”

This in turn had John Moreland posting another video to his Instagram story, saying that he didn’t know who Zach Bryan was when Zach asked him to be on his record, only that he was a really big artist also from Oklahoma, and so he decided to accept. Moreland went on to say,
At this point I’ve hung out with him five, six times. I don’t like this motherfu–er. Am I supposed to be upset? If I was asked to be on the album today I wouldn’t do it.
I don’t want to be on an album with a dude who is a dic-head to my wife and my friends right in front of me every time I see him. I don’t want to be on an album with a dude who I’ve heard tell borderline racist jokes more than once. I don’t want to be on an album with a dude who brings a 19-year old girl in the bar, and then when they tell him she can’t be in there, looks at me like I’m supposed to have his fuc-ing back. I don’t like that person.That’s who thinks I’m an as-hole? Fine. As far as I’m concerned, getting kicked off a Zach Bryan album is way fuc-ing cooler than being on a Zach Bryan album.
Is it disappointing to hear that Zach Bryan was allegedly rude to John Moreland’s wife and friends? Sure it is. But again, there’s two sides to every story, and the problem with these quotes is the same problem with the original quote from John Moreland, which is it comes in the aftermath of Zach’s big payday, and Moreland now trying to save face after he came across as jealous.
If John Moreland didn’t know who Zach Bryan was, why didn’t he ask around and get a sense of Zach’s character before he decided to collaborate with him? If Zach was so rude to Moreland’s wife and friends, why did he hang out with Bryan five or six times? It’s also a little bit hard to believe Moreland hadn’t even heard of Zach Bryan before cutting a song with him, though maybe it’s true.
But one of the reasons it’s so hard to believe that John Moreland didn’t know about Zach Bryan or his behavior until recently is Zach Bryan has been polarizing among his fellow performers for years, partly due to jealously, partly due to a sense that Bryan hopscotched the process due to his viral success, and partly stemming from Zach Bryan’s own personal behavior, similar to the stuff alleged by Moreland.
In 2021, Zach Bryan played a pre-party show at the Born & Raised Festival in Pryor, Oklahoma, not far from Tulsa where John Moreland is based, and where Zach Bryan was raised in Oologah. This was right after Zach Bryan had quit the Navy, and right as his popularity was exploding. As reported by Saving Country Music at the time, the reception for Zach Bryan was insane.

But even this early on, Saving Country Music heard chirping about how Zach Bryan and his entourage were stirring dissent among fellow artists backstage. Along with people feeling like he was getting too big in his britches too quickly, apparently Zach and his buddies stole someone’s golf cart and went joy riding backstage, and raided the coolers of other performers when they ran out of complimentary beer provided by the festival. In other words, it was redneck yahoo stuff. Nobody got hurt, and nothing really happened. But acrimony among his fellow performers was already beginning to foment.
Also, some folks forget that as Zach Bryan was exploding in popularity, he was married to a woman named Rose Madden. The two married in July of 2020, and she was seen in the short documentary made for Zach Bryan’s second album Elisabeth. Just like Zach Bryan, she was in the Navy. As soon as Bryan’s musical career started taking off, the marriage dissolved, with some feeling like Bryan decided that now that he was big time, he should play the field as opposed to honor his vows, so to speak.
Meanwhile, on Sunday (5-11) as the most recently imbroglio between Zach Bryan and John Moreland swirled, Alabama-based singer/songwriter Drayton Farley took to X/Twitter to say,
In ‘21 while opening for him he was backstage telling my wife how cute he thought she was and how much he loves mother’s. He also said things about other artist friends of mine along the lines of ‘I’ll make sure I ruin their career.’
He’s even personally texted another artist friend of mine demanding that they remove a simple social media post they made about them opening an upcoming show for him (they made their post because he didn’t even put their name on the show flyer).
I have no reason to respect people that have no respect for me and I won’t. Deceivers deceive, artists make art, and mediocrity is often rewarded. ‘Plastic flowers, plastic business.
Just like John Moreland, eventually Drayton Farley took the post down and left an explanation. But just like John Moreland and everyone else who posts things on the internet, the words remain.
Drayton Farley’s revelations once again underscore what most anyone following Zach Bryan since 2021 probably knew, which is that he’s awkward and sometimes outright rude in social situations with other artists and their friends/family. And just like Moreland and others, Zach Bryan used his popularity to help support Drayton Farley.
But what are these accusations really, that Zach Bryan was rude to wives and girlfriends? That he asked to take a social media post down? Only one person in this whole imbroglio has put his hands on someone else in anger or violence, and that was John Moreland when he punched Kyle Nix of the Turnpike Troubadours in the face in an incident that stemmed from John Moreland insulting Kyle Nix’s girlfriend. Moreland then took to social media to insult the entire Turnpike Troubadours band, sans Hank Early.
At that time, everyone thought the incident between John Moreland and Kyle Nix was cute. Now it looks like a pattern of behavior for John Moreland himself.
But in the meanwhile, you have artists like Nelly and Diplo, who’ve both been credibly accused of rape and sexual assault by three separate women, and not 1% of the outrage is flowing to them from the country and roots community. In fact, mum’s the word. Both Nelly and Diplo performed at the massive Two Step Inn Fest in Texas, and the Stagecoach Festival in California in April, with the only individual or outlet raising a stink about it being Saving Country Music.
Nick Carter of The Backstreet Boys just had a fourth woman come forward to accuse him of sexual assault, and this one says he gave her an STD that resulted in cervical Cancer. And still, Nick Carter and The Backstreet Boys were invited to perform at the Stagecoach Festival as well, and capped off last week’s ACM Awards in collaboration with Rascal Flatts. And again, there is no criticism flowing to Nick Carter like you see going to Zach Bryan for being rude or weird to people, and for making “borderline racist jokes.”
And so when you read all of these accusations against Zach Bryan, they certainly deserve some context, especially when both of the original posts were removed by their authors, and were inspired by Zach Bryan’s recent $350 million deal.
Zach Bryan was never meant to be a superstar signing $350 million contracts. Saving Country Music was the very first outlet to interview Zach Bryan, and at that time, he spoke intently about not wanting to quit the Navy, still wanting to pursue music, but wanting to honor his commitment to his country first.
“I’m in the Navy and I love being in the Navy,” Zach said. “I think I might just keep being in the Navy and writing songs, and that’s about it—keep writing music that people might like … There are thousands of kids sitting in their rooms right now playing guitars that would beg to be in the position that I’m in right now. That’s out of no arrogance. I feel responsible and an obligation to write more music, and pursue it as well as I possibly can just for those kids. It would be wrong not to chase it, if the songs can get to more people with no stipulations attached, no dollar amount, nothing like that. I would really like for people to hear music they need to hear, my songs or other songs.”
But eventually, Zach Bryan had to quit the Navy because his music became too big, and he was becoming a distraction in his position. We saw this same scenario befall punk band Green Day after they released their 1991 album Kerplunk. The album did so well, they were forced to sign to a major label, which in turn had the hardcore punk scene labeling them sellouts.
Zach Bryan is just a small-town kid from Oklahoma whose mother died early who probably wasn’t born with the disposition to consume, digest, let alone excel when navigating his inadvertent and completely unplanned mega superstardom. On September 27th, Zach Bryan will be playing the biggest single ticketed show in North American history at Michigan Stadium. When you’ve found yourself at the very height of human popularity, how you envision yourself in personal situations and interfacing with fellow artists is of course going to be incredibly awkward. Of course you’re going to come across as out-of-touch, because you are.
Zach Bryan has spent his career saying he’s not a musician, shouting out and giving credit to the artists who came before him—especially John Moreland—and doing what he can with the opportunities he’s been bestowed to turn that attention back on the artists and performers he admires, like Drayton Farley. He’s not perfect, but nobody is. Nor should he be excused for any concerning behavior.
But too many fans are letting their fandom get in the way of regarding these conflicts with an even keel, and an open mind. Some folks are engaging in straight up character assassination in and effort to defend John Moreland. And these conflicts are eroding the strength and integrity of important grassroots networks that have allowed artists like John Moreland and Drayton Farley to be supported, and artists like Zach Bryan excel so he can subsequently turn around and help support those coming up behind him.
None of this drama is healthy, including the fact that so much attention is being sucked up by this situation. Kristina Murray, Caitlin Cannon, and Americana supergroup I’m With Her all released albums on Friday when all of this erupted, and those releases felt overshadowed by the controversy.
So everyone take a deep breath, work to chill tensions, and understand we’re all tugging at the same yoke here in the same general direction. You don’t need to take a side. You don’t need to measure who is more right, or more wrong. Listen to the music of Zach Bryan, John Moreland, and Drayton Farley, because they represent some of the greatest singer/songwriter material of this generation, all from slightly different perspectives, but with music that has put songwriting and songs back to the forefront of the American music consciousness.
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May 12, 2025 @ 5:55 pm
People need to learn how to separate the music from the musician. A lot of musicians are a’holes. Doesn’t mean they don’t have great music.
May 13, 2025 @ 5:12 am
Many country legends fall under that category: George Jones, Waylon, Willie Nelson (who beat one of his wives), Coe, etc.
You have to separate the man from the music.
May 13, 2025 @ 8:16 am
Don’t forget Blaze Foley.
May 13, 2025 @ 8:35 am
I could add dozens more to the list.
Spade Cooley brutally murdered his wife.
May 13, 2025 @ 10:29 am
Don Williams and Bobby Bare seems to be the exceptions, as far as I know.
No matter which business; the ones who makes it to the top – or tries to get there – are more likely than not psychopaths, to a degree.
May 15, 2025 @ 11:58 pm
I’ve no problem with condoning ground war between this alleged tag-team of musical “assholes” so long as Trigger says it will save Country Music.
BOOM BANG OOF !!
May 12, 2025 @ 6:07 pm
I won’t separate the music and the musician if there are serious sexual allegations or any kind of extreme violence toward anyone. Everything else is just noise for tabloids, and social media. Bar fights and just generally an unlikable person? Meh, don’t care.
May 14, 2025 @ 2:00 pm
Exactly. In the majority of instances I can seperate them, but with Kanye West for example it’s simply a bridge too far. Same with considering revisiting the catalogs of Led Zeppelin, David Bowie and some others knowing what I know now. I respect each person is going to have their own subjective takes on it and I understand that, but that’s just where I’m at and I know plenty have similar sentiments now even if objectively they recognize brilliance in their past.
May 12, 2025 @ 6:11 pm
So over this guy
May 12, 2025 @ 6:17 pm
“Somehow in those moments, Isbell’s bad relationship behavior was seen as humanizing and erudite.”
This is subjective and I don’t think there is clear sentiment that this is the case. I am a big Isbell fan but his behavior in the doc made me like him less. It didn’t humanize him; it made him an asshole that negatively changed how I viewed him.
May 12, 2025 @ 7:00 pm
I just changed “seen” in that sentence to “portrayed.”
I am still stupefied at who thought it was a good idea to market Isbell’s “Reunions” album by highlighting his personal relationship drama. And I don’t think you can read the New York Times feature and take anything different from it.
For the record, this is not an “attack” or even a criticism of Jason Isbell (though maybe his publicist). What I was trying to illustrate is often the lives of artists are messy. So revealing that messiness in Zach Bryan in my opinion doesn’t rise to the level of being something exceptional that would make me not want to listen to his music anymore. Love is messy, and often, so are artists. We’ve all allowed our emotions get the best of us at times.
May 13, 2025 @ 6:09 am
I mean…it didn’t exactly make Amanda look like a bundle of roses either, no matter how hard the documentary crew tried.
May 13, 2025 @ 7:21 am
My whole take on the thing was that Amanda Shires was the instigator, not the victim. My deeper point is that whoever was pushing Jason Isbell and his “Reunions” album felt that the messy behavior between Isbell and Shires is what they needed to use to intrigue to public and market the album. Granted, that seemed like a novel, and perhaps daft marketing strategy. But it illustrates how it’s really the way these things are portrayed in the public can shape public opinion. An entire crop of people a couple of weeks ago thought I wrote a dedicated hit piece on a fellow journalist as opposed to taking Ian Munsick to task for using backing tracks because that’s how some portrayed it on social media. The greater context told a different story. But if you never see that context, you could take the other position.
May 13, 2025 @ 7:39 am
I discovered Jason Isbell because of how much I loved Carrying Lightning…but I’ll just say that, after the documentary, I wasn’t shocked that Foxes in the Snow was his best album since Nashville Sound, if not Southeastern.
She spent the entire gd time shitting on Dave Cobb.
May 12, 2025 @ 6:18 pm
“…Borderline racist jokes…”
Moreland is a Karen.
May 12, 2025 @ 6:30 pm
HAHA exactly. I’m still trying to think how a joke could be construed as borderline racist instead of just being racist. That’s insufferable leftist code for: “I got nothing but I still want to make a complaint.” Why not say Zach Bryan has internalized fatphobia since he’s physcially fit? Why not say ZB never deconstructed from the patriachy because he can bench 225?
May 12, 2025 @ 6:47 pm
Im stealing that last line. It’s a good un.
May 12, 2025 @ 6:52 pm
Deconstructing from the patriarchy sounds vaguely political. You need a warning.
May 12, 2025 @ 7:01 pm
Careful.
Maybe Moreland will get SAMCRO to settle this beef.
May 12, 2025 @ 7:08 pm
To cast aspersions that Zach Bryan MIGHT be racist really is just an ugly and weak maneuver. Zach Bryan’s sister is LGBT, and he’s come out publicly defending LGBT rights. To attempt to plant the racism seed in hope it sprouts is just a mealy mouthed attempt at character assassination that never needed to be made.
I think John Moreland is an incredible artist and I support his music 100%. If Zach Bryan was rude to his wife and friends, that’s not cool. But either you bring the racism charge and have hard evidence behind it, or you leave it be.
May 12, 2025 @ 7:25 pm
If Moreland was a true poet he wouldn’t resort to calumny.
May 12, 2025 @ 7:36 pm
Considering that it’s been a few days now and Moreland didn’t provide clear evidence or description on how he was rude, I tend to believe it didn’t happen the way he perceived it.
May 12, 2025 @ 7:59 pm
Isn’t there the possibility that a festival that wants Zach Bryan might end up with a situation where ZB agrees on the condition that Moreland not be included? Zach would be justified in doing so because not only did Zach go out of his way to help a lower level artist that he liked – and was repayed with insult and weak attempts at character assasinations, like you said? It would behoove Moreland to apologize.
May 12, 2025 @ 7:59 pm
Moreland’s wife then made a similar non-specific misogyny accusation against Zach. Ok then, we’ll just take your word for it? Spell this shit out with full context or shut up.
May 12, 2025 @ 6:18 pm
I still see Moreland as the bad guy here because he started all this by calling ZB a “knock-off” version of himself. Doesn’t matter that he pulled the image shortly after because he didn’t apologize for posting that thought. It would be different if he owned up to it, apologized, and admitted it came from a place of jealousy (which any rational person would surmise was the case). Why are we extending grace to Moreland when he didn’t apologize? Morgan Wallen apologized and I don’t see people offended by his previous actions choosing to accept those apologies and move on. (Yes he has a worse track record when drunk, and shows signs some will continue.. but he apologized. What is the point of demanding apologies if there is no intent to accept it?)
Artists almost always tend to be sensitive and emotional people. Throw millions of dollars, alcohol, uppers, and thousands of the hottest women into the mix in the middle of the smartphone era where everyone is a TMZ journalist and this is all they have on ZB? Come on. He’s closer to a saint than a pariah. Some of the stories I heard from bus drivers about some Country stars in the 80’s and 90’s has permantly altered my view of them. I’m a nobody but I turn into an asshole whenever some bar patron pulls out a harmonica and starts blowing along to songs and I can see and hear it when I’m on stage.
Internet cancel culture is in some mutated form where everyone starts out with full credibility but internet culture seeks to slowly tear them down and make sure they can never reddem themselves. Everyone is so inundated with memes, Reels, Youtube shorts, social media posts, etc that negative attention is powerful to distract and like Roman Gladiators we are cheering on the attemps to tear people down.
May 12, 2025 @ 7:47 pm
I am intrigued by those ’80s and ’90s Country star stories.
May 12, 2025 @ 6:50 pm
Get back to me when somebody blows up a desert nightclub with a couple of sticks of dynamite.
May 13, 2025 @ 5:22 am
Waylon in his prime would Tell Zach Bryan to fuck off
May 13, 2025 @ 7:57 pm
???
May 12, 2025 @ 6:51 pm
I just don’t get the adoration of Zach Bryan’s music – does nothing for me.
May 12, 2025 @ 7:05 pm
Something in the Orange is the New Black
May 12, 2025 @ 8:46 pm
A lesson in “not every song needs to be put on the record.”
May 12, 2025 @ 6:55 pm
I miss life before “social” media.
It adds nothing but shit like this.
May 13, 2025 @ 1:07 pm
lol high drama in country music existed WAY before social media, but yeah I get your point.
May 12, 2025 @ 7:03 pm
Someone ought to stand them on Main St. at high noon, and let them bitch slap this out.
May 13, 2025 @ 6:39 pm
With Isbell as referee?
May 12, 2025 @ 7:09 pm
Always enjoy your very fair and well thought out takes on these issues, Trigger. Clear and concise and taking into account the many factors and contexts most ignore.
May 12, 2025 @ 7:09 pm
without getting into the particulars of what happened, I feel pretty confident in predicting that Moreland will still be writing great songs and making great records in ten years, when ZB will have fallen into the abyss that seems to have swallowed up Rascal Flatts
May 13, 2025 @ 5:48 am
Let’s be honest, Moreland will be lucky to be alive in 10 years, and this isn’t me picking sides or wishing any ill will on him. To think he’ll still be making great records, and Zach Bryan will become the next Rascal Flatts is absurd.
May 12, 2025 @ 7:30 pm
While you make a good point that individually, these all come across relatively minor, I think it’s worth noting that I haven’t heard a cross word about Zach Top, or Wyatt Flores, or Childers, or Sturgill, or Chris Stapleton, or anyone else who’s had a meteoric rise in roots music over the past decade. Zach Bryan meanwhile, seems to piss off just about everybody he comes across. You’ve listed at least dozen allegations of seriously questionable behavior. Even past what you’ve mentioned here, didn’t he get wasted drunk and start yelling at people backstage at a Noah Kahan show when he was supposed to perform after they’d been friends and toured together?
If Isbell being a pompous ass on Twitter is worthy of multiple cutting SCM articles, I’d expect hitting on less popular artists’ wives, threatening to ruin their careers, and stating outright that you’re too important for law enforcement to get some more intense scrutiny.
May 12, 2025 @ 7:41 pm
Most of the ZB allegations are “he said she said” and and some are second and third hand, and happened to a much smaller group of people. Isbell quite literally made the conscious decision to make asshole statements and deride his own fans on a public platform with millions of eyes on it. There is no room for interpretation for what Isbell did because it was clear.
May 12, 2025 @ 7:56 pm
Hey Derrick,
“Zach Bryan meanwhile, seems to piss off just about everybody he comes across.”
This is actually EXACTLY what I was hoping to portray in this article, that Zach Bryan has a long history of coming across as rude, or big timing other artists, because I’ve heard this over and over through the years. Yes, I could have brought up the Noah Kahan thing, or the apparent falling out with Charles Wesley Godwin, or other instances.
But what I also wanted to portray is this is not necessarily abnormal or out-of-bounds in a way that the revelations from John Moreland and Drayton Farley make me completely discount Zach Bryan as a person. I think he’s a simple guy who is great with words, whose music caught fire and now he’s just holding on for dear life. Some of the concerns you hear from fellow artists could just boil down to social awkwardness. He might have just been trying to compliment Drayton’s wife and it came across weird. There was probably a specific reason he told whatever band who was opening for him to take their social media post down, probably because they had contracted with the venue for only one opener, and if they promoted two, they could get in trouble. This actually happens all the time.
I’m not trying to forgive anything that Zach Bryan has done. But what I see here is a long pattern of very minor offenses that have pissed some people off—exacerbated by the fact that he blew up so fast, didn’t pay dues, and is now worth half a billion—but that ultimately don’t amount to much of anything. And if you wanted to, you could probably find a similar pattern from some other artists.
And meanwhile, multiple performers out there will very legitimate concerning behavior go about life completely unscathed with nobody saying anything about it. Nick Carter received less criticism for facing a fourth rape accusation a few weeks ago than Zach Bryan is facing here. It just seems off.
May 12, 2025 @ 8:18 pm
Could you please elaborate on how Zach is perceived to have not paid his dues? He was still relatively unknown before American Heartbreak blew up the way it did and that was his fourth album, not to mention all his unreleased tracks. Every single song (bar a few covers here and there) written and sung by him, and played by him/him and his band.
Back in the early days he also spent a lot of time engaging with fans online. Posting music and about music on social media, replying to comments, reposting, etc.
I don’t know how much he’d toured by then but he was in the navy that entire time and on deployment for a lot of it.
Also worth noting is he’s not some nepo baby or even from a privileged background.
What more could/should he have done to satisfy those who feel he didn’t pay his dues?
May 12, 2025 @ 8:33 pm
I’ve always said that Zach Bryan paid his dues in the Navy, but artists who spent years touring and playing 250 shows a year for multiple years before they ever got a break are going to look at that as faint praise. Fair or not, that’s the way music, and country music specifically are. The example I like to give is even Florida Georgia Line was put on the club circuit when they were exploding just because they had to prove they could draw and put on a show before they would give them bigger dates. They once opened for American Aquarium. This is part of country music tradition.
May 12, 2025 @ 9:13 pm
Thank you for your reply.
I do think it’s unfair and frankly quite ridiculous. His success can’t be attributed to one single unfair advantage. Not birthright, connections, money, ffs he’s not even conventionally attractive. Everything except his talent was stacked against him.
The fact that he was busy serving his country in the military should be more than enough to excuse him for not having toured extensively before he blew up. Also, correct me if I’m wrong, but he has had a fairly intense touring schedule since he got out of the navy.
As an OG fan it just seems like there’s nothing he could have done that would be enough for some people, and that their criticisms are borne out of the type of petty jealously that can’t acknowledge that Zach did earn it himself, fair and square.
Perhaps they also can’t accept that there was some genius in the particularly Gen Z way he marketed himself online, and that times do in fact change.
May 13, 2025 @ 6:55 am
Hey Hayley-
I think your last sentence nails it. As someone that has “paid his dues,” quote-unquote, I completely understand the bitterness, even if I think it’s unfair. I think it’s largely frustration at the paradigm shift, and Zach Bryan just happens to be the poster boy of it. If you’ve spent half a decade living in a Ford Econoline, grinding it out in honky-tonks, and then you see a guy who can’t even play guitar well enough to hang in a country-store bluegrass jam skyrocket past you on the wings of TikTok, well you can understand why folks might be bitter. Then add the fact that Zach Bryan is apparently not a good hang a lot of the time, and you get this scenario.
If he were a nicer guy, or had spent a couple years on the scene like, say, Zach Top did before blowing up, it’d probably be different. Not to say that any of this is fair, mind you, Bryan is of course a mega talent of a songwriter and ultimately that’s why he’s a star.
May 26, 2025 @ 6:24 pm
A lot of musicians paid dues both in the military and scraping by. Kristofferson springs to mind.
May 13, 2025 @ 7:13 am
his first album DeAnn went viral in the independent country community when he was still in the Navy. He also released Elisabeth while he was still in the Navy. With those records and all his viral youtube / reddit videos, by the time he was discharged he had a rabid fan base and several labels out to sign him. His first ever show with a full band was for like 2000+ people or something.
It’s not a knock on him at all unless you’re an insecure and bitter musician – but he never had the “grind” in the music industry so many artists have of playing hundreds of bar shows and door deals before making a living at music. He entered the industry at a place where most artists would kill to end up
Jeremy pinnell grinds and rips btw
May 13, 2025 @ 9:06 am
Exactly. It didn’t take him 10+ years to craft a marketable product. Reminds me of stand-up comedians who are jealous of funnier comedians who quickly rise to fame and didn’t spend 20+ years in obsurity – because they are actually funny.
May 12, 2025 @ 9:11 pm
I get what you’re saying about the comment to Drayton’s wife being potentially open to interpretation. I’d be willing to give him a whole lot more rope if he didn’t have a half dozen other women (Moreland’s wife included, clearly) who have said openly he’s treated them poorly in one way or another. And if history’s taught us anything about male pop stars, we’re lucky if we’re getting a tenth of what the women in his orbit have to say about him. Where there’s smoke, there’s often fire.
Nick Carter and Nelly and Diplo and other artists who abuse women deserve to be held accountable. You’ve done an admirable job reporting on these issues in the country music sphere. But “at least he’s not committing multiple violent or coercive sexual assaults” isn’t the strongest defense for ZB either.
May 12, 2025 @ 10:13 pm
I tried to emphasize numerous times in the article that I am not here to excuse any of Zach Bryan’s actions. But I am trying to put them in the proper context. None of them feel like a hanging offense to me, and I’m just seeing a ton of effort being spent to save face after John Moreland published an ill-advised image on his Instagram story that even he clearly regretted. And since it was judged harshly in the court of public opinion and Zach’s Stans started coming after Moreland, he started emptying the kitchen at Zach to save face.
The revelations about Moreland and his wife would have been better served coming out perhaps around the Brianna Chickenfry moment, and would be a lot more potent of Moreland himself hadn’t also insulted someone’s significant other before punching them in the face.
May 13, 2025 @ 9:12 pm
None of those people got as big as fast as him and all were older and more equipped to deal with it…other than Flores, but he’s not nearly as big yet.
May 12, 2025 @ 7:50 pm
Let’s be honest. Most artists’ real issue with Zach Bryan stems from jealousy. He became a megastar without paying his “dues” and amateurish style.
Carrie Underwood earned the same ire because of American Idol.
May 12, 2025 @ 8:08 pm
“Arguably Zach Bryan did more for the career of Kacey Musgraves than the entire country industry ever did.”
It’s really baffling that you’ve now posted this same statement twice this week about an artist who tours arenas and has won every country music award possible. The industry loves Musgraves. Always has. You also seem to be making a bit deal out one one single going Double Platinum, something Musgraves on her own has already accomplished numerous times.
So her recent single with Zach went Double Platinum? So did “Merry Go Round” from 2012, years before Bryan even had a career, when he was still in high school. Likewise in 2013 “Blowin Smoke” and “Follow Your Arrow”both went platinum, 10+ years ago. “Rainbow” from 2018 went Double Paltinum. Two other singles from that album went Platinum.
Musgraves has 8 Grammys (only one of which is with Zach). She’s won Country Album of the Year twice, Country Song of the Year 3x, and overall Album of the Year. Likewise she’s won the ACM for Album of the Year twice and 7 CMAs.
If anything is holding back Musgraves it’s that she stopped actually making country music after 2018 and pivoted towards lazy pop and folk. If she fully pivoted back into actual country she’d be big again.
May 12, 2025 @ 8:30 pm
Obviously I’m being a bit hyperbolic with that statement, but Musgraves never had a #1, let alone a Top 10 until “I Remember Everything.” If you go to Spotify, you can see “Merry Go ‘Round” has 121 million plays, “I Remember Everything” has 1.073 billion plays. It’s Certified Double Platinum right now, but it’s probably already 5X Platinum, and is headed to Diamond status. It’s one of the biggest tracks released in all of music in the last five years.
The awards really supported Musgraves, but Zach Bryan has introduced her to a whole new generation, and a whole different demographic of listeners in a way the country industry failed to.
I hope to have an article on Musgraves and her potential future here soon.
May 13, 2025 @ 4:34 am
…you make it sound like kacey musgraves was a superstar – which is absolutely correct, sir.
May 13, 2025 @ 6:03 am
Not trying to be a jerk but wanting to ask a genuine question – can Musgraves actually sell arena’s? Maybe minor league hockey arena’s but I don’t think she can come close to selling out 18K+ arena’s or the 20k+ outdoor Amphitheater’s many of the bigger stars play. I saw her live around 2019 (as an opener but close to full set) and she was boring and everything she said to the audience seemed scripted. She did have a great voice that did come off live which saved her show from being a total dud.
May 12, 2025 @ 8:33 pm
Not making excuses for anything but it’s hard to get amped about the accusations here as a fan of older jazz, rock, country and blues. A lot of the usual behavior in the 70s from rockers, for example, makes ZB look angelic. Painters and fiction writers, a lot of the same. A great deal of utter shitheads in metal, too.
Maybe you can have higher expectations for a modern artist because society and mores have changed. Maybe not. And I’m not experiencing what Drayton, et al, did.
May 13, 2025 @ 6:17 am
2 of the major 3 Beat writers were literal child molesters (Burroughs and Ginsberg). It’s not clear if Keourac engaged in that behaviour but he did go on a trip with Burroughs where Burroughs wrote about doing things with little boys on that same trip.
May 13, 2025 @ 10:42 am
One of the reasons they’re hailed by today’s smug cultural elite
May 13, 2025 @ 11:40 am
The same cultural elite who slam the Catholic Church for pedophilia celebrate Burroughs and Ginsberg.
Quite amazing how they tolerate sins for their people.
May 13, 2025 @ 11:42 am
I 100% believe that for the cultural popularity of the Nabakov book ‘Lolita’, which I have not read. Keourac’s books are very tame by modern standards. His writing is easy to digest and has great imagery. I find the beat culture fascinating and it was hugely influentual to the 60’s counter-culture movement and music. I have a harder time understanding what people saw in Burroughs and Ginsberg’s writings and how it carried social value despite just being subversive. Many of our cultural icons in the 1900’s were awful people.
May 12, 2025 @ 8:36 pm
I think with Zach Bryan part of his problem is squaring the laundry list of minor incidents with kind of his whole image he portrays in his music. The key thing for his whole rise is what feels like very honest and sincere music that makes people believe in him. It’s not his music that made him viral it’s him the guy he portrayed in the songs. Overwhelming sincerity in a world of irony and cynicism.
So things that maybe give the impression that he’s an asshole undercuts that. Not for me. For me I need something much more serious to fall off a musician I like. But like my wife has stopped being a fan pretty much for exactly what I said. She doesn’t believe in him anymore.
May 12, 2025 @ 8:40 pm
Good point Harris.
I think that’s also the reason some were shocked by John Moreland’s initial pettiness. It’s uncharacteristic compared to their music.
May 13, 2025 @ 7:18 am
I do think there is a bit of contrast from what fans perceive of him versus this collection of annoying behaviors, but I’m not sure that the image is his fault. I think his discography taken as a whole makes it pretty clearly he views himself as pretty flawed. But I think people choose to just look at the hopelessly romantic songs as “Zach Bryan”. When in reality, like many people, he’s a mix of things. But even then, I think a lot of those romantic songs are about a guy who is looking for someone to fix him, which isn’t great. However, I do think that problem is exacerbated by his choice to put out so much music.
May 13, 2025 @ 7:25 pm
Best comment on this entire thread.
May 12, 2025 @ 9:08 pm
Hey, Ryan Adams got canceled for less
May 12, 2025 @ 10:55 pm
No he didn’t.
May 13, 2025 @ 8:08 pm
Ryan Adams was accused of some things by a few women, and some of those same women have proven to not be the most honest. The reason why he is on the outs currently is because he was such a giant jerk to literally everyone he had no friends left to support him when it happened. If Zach Bryan was smart he would Ryan Adams as a warning.
May 12, 2025 @ 11:40 pm
His success has come quickly. He might or might or might not be the nicest person, I know not but he seems to have mentioned lots of ‘lesser known’ artist and given opening slots to many who have benefited as a result. He can’t be all bad and no doubt jealousy plays some part. The truth of it all is difficult to determine. If we only listened to artists who were nice people, many would not have been heard, including a good few legends of the past and a few stars of today.
May 13, 2025 @ 12:40 am
…there is a two years old feature on zach bryan in a european country magazine that compares him to vincent van gogh as far as his ability goes to capture the essence of a moment and transform it into a piece of art. one of the greatest painters of all times wasn’t exactly a role model and perfect character either. give zach bryan a break – he’s still a relatively new fool at a very tough game, which he plays rather amazingly by the way. but he’s no doubt growing further, which seems to have triggered mr. moreland’s envy somewhat. storm in tea cup stuff, really.
May 13, 2025 @ 1:16 am
Thanks Trigger! This is a verry accurate description of how I feel toward the whole situation. People eagerly jumping on the Zach Bryan hate train – at least partially – for clout. One-sides stories without context. No doubt the guy is flawed, but if you look closer it is as you say: never a ‘hanging offense’ . I havent seen anything that is worse than a lot of still loved rock bands did in the 70/80/90ties?
May 13, 2025 @ 3:08 am
You make good points. It’s pretty simple for me, used to be a huge fan of him, now I’m just a fan of his music and try not to pay attention to every step the guy takes.
I would like to know why his friend growing up, Steve Clark, is no longer his drummer. Maybe the details of that won’t ever come out, but it should be a story. As for the CWG fallout, I saw that coming with Read Connolly choosing to play with Zach and leaving the Allegheny High, though can’t blame him really I guess. Maybe there’s more to it than that, but don’t see a guy nice as Charles publicly coming out against him.
May 13, 2025 @ 3:34 am
I just don’t get why grownups air their petty grievances about each other in public, let alone taking to instagram. The harshest words I ever heard my grandfather say about another man was one time when he said, “I don’t have anything nice to say about him.” That was it. End of sentence. Nothing followed. It is annoying when middle and high school kids do it, and unbearable from adults.
May 26, 2025 @ 6:27 pm
I don’t really take any adult still on Instagram or Twitter seriously.
May 13, 2025 @ 3:56 am
“an incident that stemmed from John Moreland insulting Kyle Nix’s girlfriend.”
I always assumed Lorrie instigated that one.
May 13, 2025 @ 12:37 pm
Yeah she was talking a little too sweet to him.
May 13, 2025 @ 4:36 am
Nothing in this article made me gain any respect for ZB. In fact, it made me learn things that respect him even less. Guy has always struck me as a complete and total douchebag.
May 13, 2025 @ 7:28 pm
Very concise, and very true.
May 13, 2025 @ 5:42 am
I think Bryan is probably a bit of an asshole who I wouldn’t want to hang out with. Which is totally fine and absolutely unrelated to his ability to craft songs. This idea that artists, be they musicians, actors, directors, etc, need to be someone every fan would want to hang out with is crazy and honestly the reason parasocial relationships are toxic. No one person is going to be everyone’s cup of tea. As long as Bryan isn’t going beyond asshole into assault or cruelty I don’t have a problem with it. Thus far, nothing that’s come out crosses that line.
May 13, 2025 @ 5:58 am
It sounds like fairly standard mid-20s meathead jackassery, from a guy who was in his mid-20s at the time and got really big, really fast.
If he’s still acting like that, he isn’t someone I’d particularly want to be friends with…but it’s not like I’m ever going to hang out with him, haha!
He had a lock-in at my local after a show a couple years back and the bar staff there all loved him – that counts quite a bit more in my estimation than most of this stuff.
May 13, 2025 @ 6:10 am
Motley Crue were assholes, heck, even VN killed a fellow musician. They got to make a book/movie out of it. Is Moreland envious? Yup. Is ZB rude and obnoxious? Yup. Is ZB’s music still going to resonate with hot moms, their dudes and the millions upon millions of 12-25 year olds? Yup. Is ZB supposed to be Jesus? Nope. Is there anything more to be said? Can we get back to the music? TBD
May 13, 2025 @ 10:25 am
Glen Danzig is asshoe!
May 13, 2025 @ 11:40 am
Yup, but I still crank Mother to 11 when I hear it.
May 13, 2025 @ 6:37 am
Good thing Trigger is here to keep us up on the Soap Opera.
May 13, 2025 @ 6:47 am
Tabloid fodder.
May 13, 2025 @ 7:23 am
I agree. But I was starting to get attacked for not bringing these egregious new revelations from John Moreland and Drayton Farley forward.
May 15, 2025 @ 2:34 am
By who?
May 15, 2025 @ 7:43 am
As I said in the article itself, “And let’s all acknowledge that all of this is veering well into the realm of celebrity gossip and social media pot stirring, which should probably tell you the lack of severity behind the accusations.”
If you go to the first article I wrote on this subject, you can see comments citing the second wave of supposed “accusations” and characterizing that it just got much worse for Zach Bryan. I was getting similar stuff via email and social media. Some people who’ve never liked Zach Bryan or who love John Moreland want to portray Zach Bryan as country music’s Ditty. I don’t like to report on subjects like this. But it was necessary to put the further “accusations” in context.
May 13, 2025 @ 6:56 am
Nobody that is relatively successful is criticizing Zach Bryan. The guys that have been playing the same small listening rooms for a decade and can barely draw 100 people to a show are the ones that are suddenly calling out one of the biggest names in music, after that guy has lifted their careers and praised them. This ain’t complicated
May 13, 2025 @ 7:33 am
Huh?
John Moreland is the goddamn poster child for “Relatively Successful,” haha
He’s spent the last decade-plus consistently playing 400-500 capacity shows, even outside of Texas and Oklahoma.
Not doing amphitheaters, but very much the same range as guys like American Aquarium and, back in the day, JTE.
May 13, 2025 @ 7:43 am
As singer/songwriters, John Moreland and Drayton Farley are both incredibly successful, and both did time as the hot names in the space. Drayton came out like a rocket with his acoustic album “A Hard up Life,” and I think a lot of people thought of him as the next Jason Isbell. But then when you started having all of these Zach Bryan knock-offs like Sam Barber and Waylon Wyatt, he got a little lost in the shuffle. But he’s still a highly-regarded songwriter.
You talk to any songwriter, including Zach Bryan, and they will sing the praises of John Moreland. But he made some questionable production decisions on his 2022 album “Birds in the Ceiling,” disappeared for a bit, and now he’s back on the club circuit. I get his frustration.
But none of this is Zach Bryan’s fault. Zach stretched the possibilities for singer/songwriters. Previously, people would aspire to have a career like Moreland. Now you can be Noah Kahan. It’s an entirely new universe, and it’s thanks to ALL of these dudes, and they all deserve respect in my opinion.
May 13, 2025 @ 8:30 am
Willie Nelson always said you meet the same people on the way up as you do on the way down in the music business. John Moreland is playing listening rooms when he’s anywhere within 100 miles of where I live because I’ve seen him advertised a lot at venues I go to. They’re never sold out. He’s getting in fights with Kyle Nix over politics and bitching about Zach Bryan being successful. I’ll use the same quote from Justified as I did on the article about him bitching on instagram
“You run into an asshole in the morning, you run into an asshole. You run into assholes all day, you’re the asshole.”
May 13, 2025 @ 6:59 am
Zach Bryan really does come off as a normal guy who made it famous really quickly. I think there’s something to be said for the things he’s been “accused” off for also being part of what makes him so popular. He’s a more or less a normal guy, who grew up in Oklahoma, and then served in the Navy out of high school.
I don’t mean this in disparaging way, but I feel like I know a bunch of guys like this. Maybe other people will say they don’t but I have a hard time believing that. A guy who is more or less decent, is a good time, and probably is great to be a close friend with. Until he drinks too much, gets a bit out of hand, and makes bad, but ultimately non-criminal decisions, that could end your friendship. He’s not black or white like we want people in the public eye to be. He’s very messy and isn’t good at hiding it, like most normal people are. The kind of guy who you might slowly grow away from as you get older, get married, and have kids. Or flits in and out of your life and is the “fun” uncle who can come over for a weekend but your wife gets fed up with after four days.
I do find it interesting when people make it seem like this behavior is out of character. I don’t it incredibly consistent with his songs, especially the obviously biographical ones, but even the songs that are written about vignettes are clearly influenced by his world views. His idol is Jack Kerouac and it shows. I don’t think has ever Zach has protrayed himself as a particular good or holier-than-thou person, unlike some other celebrities. He’s done the opposite and made it clear he’s an incredibly flawed person. He’s the kind of guy you don’t want your sister dating. Not because he’s a abusive piece of crap. But because he’s exactly what he says he is, for good and bad, and you know she won’t be happy in the end.
May 13, 2025 @ 7:45 am
This is a great way of putting it!
The music reminds me of the buddies whom I love, because I’ve known them most my life, but wouldn’t expect any of the friends I’ve made since turning 27 or so to put up with…and of my friends’ hardo childhood buddies whom I don’t particularly want to deal with.
And none of these reports make me think any different, haha.
May 13, 2025 @ 7:54 am
Yea that’s exactly it haha. The guy you make excuses for because you feel like you know them so well. It’s kind of weird when you keep thinking about how mad he makes people feel. I think socially, we have gotten used to excusing away big incidences from celebrities (John Lennon, Johnny Cash, Aerosmith, Led Zeppelin, etc) but we don’t like it when celebrities exhibit more normal, but still assholish human behavior. It’s like looking in a mirror.
May 13, 2025 @ 8:13 am
Hah, was just about to add that all of us are that guy for one of our friends; dealing with social anxiety/impostor syndrome by drinking a little too much and trying a little too hard…and making everything worse.
May 13, 2025 @ 7:03 am
It isn’t even the fact that he’s an asshole. It’s the fact that he isn’t even nearly as good as everyone makes him out to be.
May 13, 2025 @ 7:32 am
It’s almost as if having technology at our fingertips 24/7 that allows us to spew our unfiltered id in front of thousands or even millions of people wasn’t such a great idea…
May 13, 2025 @ 8:38 am
Now I am imagining Lewis Wetzel with a Twitter account.
May 13, 2025 @ 7:38 am
Hmm I think my previous message didn’t list so I’ll try this again. Feel free to delete if this is a double post.
I’m not making any excuses for the guy at all, but Zach’s popularity stems from his authenticity and I think people have a hard time with his authentic self not being a perfect guy. As a society, we have this need for celebrities to be some picture of what we think they should be, instead of messy like normal people are. He really comes across like a bunch of guys I’ve known in my life who grew up in a small town, joined the armed forces, and then came back into town. His idol is Jack Kerouac and it shows.
He’s the kind of guy you might feel really close to at 23 years old. He means well, is usually good to be around, but he might drink too much and do or say stupid things. You usually grow apart as you get older, get married, and have kids. Or he sticks around as the “fun uncle”, hangs out for a weekend, but your wife wants him gone by day four. He’s the kind of guy you don’t want your sister dating. Not because he’s an abusive piece of crap, but because he’s exactly what he says he is, and she’ll never be completely happy with him.
If you analyze what he’s “done” none of it is really horrible, just annoying, but probably typical of guys like him. I know we tend to glorify celebrities and people who have served, but I sometimes wonder how many people actually know people who have served. I mean this with absolutely no disrespect, but vaguely misogynistic or racist jokes are pretty normal among my friends who have served. Personally, I don’t think that makes him sexist or racist, but I also recognize that he shouldn’t make those kinds of jokes as a celebrity. But I’m not surprised at all, not do I particularly judge him for it. Are people really going to sit here and say they’ve never had a friend make a slightly off color joke and laughed at it? Do people really go around correcting their friends while at the bar and then give them a lecture of critical race theory?
May 13, 2025 @ 7:51 am
Zach Bryan went from unknown to headlining stadiums, adoration, and untold riches almost overnight.
I don’t know about you, but in that position, at his age I would undoubtedly be a shit show. So, willing to cut him some slack. Same with other similar artists.
And imagine if every time you did something in your life to piss someone off, it ended up in the news. Yikes.
And when it comes to Moreland vs Bryan, I am and have been a huge Moreland fan from the start. “In the Throes” and “High on Tulsa Heat” are both perfect. But he lost this round.
May 13, 2025 @ 8:35 am
Motley Crue’s combined IQ and mine are 160.Moreland v. Bryan is about a push.
May 13, 2025 @ 8:36 am
None of the stories about Zach Bryan are anything worse than him being a bit of an ass. That’s just not disqualifying to me in terms of who I listen to musically. Jason Isbell can be a bit of an asshole, as you mentioned. Sturgill Simpson has plenty of instances of being a jerk to people publicly, as does Jamey Johnson.
To me, Zach Bryan comes of a little like Chappell Roan (who I also love, don’t shoot me)–got really big, really fast, and a lot of “not ready for prime time” vibes. Both might not be the nicest people in all situations, people are complicated. Most of us have friends we love who can be assholes in the wrong context, and the only reason it’s unforgivable in some celebrities is because we expect celebrities to be saints.
There are things for which people should be excluded from public life. Rapists and sexual abusers especially should never be accepted. But a dude who is a bit of an asshole sometimes? Whatever. And I mean that for both Zach Bryan and John Moreland.
May 13, 2025 @ 9:06 am
Certainly would not lump Jamey Johnson in with the dickery of Sturgill Simpson and Isbell.
Jamey is his own man.
May 13, 2025 @ 11:52 am
Jamey Johnson and Isbell have a similar-ish rep of being divas/ hard to work with, often being a dick to the crew, unpleasant to be around etc. Behind the scenes, not their public persona. You wouldn’t call Sturgill gregarious exactly, but I never heard anyone say something like that about him.
May 13, 2025 @ 12:28 pm
Jamey Johnson has a reputation of calling people out that are not doing their jobs.
Sound engineers, if you will.
Sturgill Simpson and Jason Isbell have reputations for being dicks, because, you know, they have to call down, the man.
May 13, 2025 @ 4:36 pm
Jamey Johnson has a reputation of being prickly with all kinds of people.There’s also a lot of people who love Jamey Johnson. The reason Di Harris is defending Jamey and attacking Sturgill Simpson is because her taste in music solely revolves around politics. If your politics align with her, you’re great. If your politics don’t align with her, you’re garbage.
That’s all this is about.
May 13, 2025 @ 4:52 pm
You are totally off base.
But, as long as you keep venting angrily toward me, maybe that’s a time you’re not being angry elsewhere.
May 13, 2025 @ 9:15 am
I think one of the problems with Zach Bryan is that he’s not a typical musician, but makes artistic music. Personality wise, he comes across as a ‘bro’, whereas the artists in his lane, who he is rubbing shoulders with, are more of the artistic/hipster types. He’s the guy you invite to your NFL draft, rather than your meditation group. Those personalities often don’t gel well, and I can see him rubbing people the wrong way.
Hopefully the bad publicity helps him behave a little more thoughtfully in professional settings. He’s still in his 20s, and will mature. I love that he has used his stardom to lift up a lot of artists who deserve it, and he deserves a lot of credit for that.
May 13, 2025 @ 9:44 am
For the record, I’ve listening the the new Kristina Murray record all weekend!
May 13, 2025 @ 11:07 am
Would be curious what happened with CWG? Seems those two had a falling out. Or maybe just moved on. There’s no doubt Zach was massive for his career
May 13, 2025 @ 11:41 am
Nice article! I happen to have seen the Zach Bryan Oklahoma Trooper arrest video before I knew much about his music. It gave me a really negative impression of him. In that police video he comes across as a spoiled, whiny guy who acts tough until he got cuffed and then started to cry and call his daddy. He was told what to do by the trooper and he chose to disobey and then essential choose arrest…and then literally cry about it.
Not a good picture of an adult, military veteran that is trying to be a country artist.
That video did it for me before I even knew his music or how popular he was becoming. I think his actions in that video spoke volumes about his character. And it is the character problem that I think is really what rubs so many the wrong way. It’s not that he makes mistakes, but rather what is coming from inside him. The traffic stop was one overall incident, but there were many opportunities in that situation to be a decent person and he passed them up. His security guy was decent. The trooper was decent. Unfortunately, ZB looked really pathetic and full of himself.
To me, he appears not genuine and lacking in character and I think that may be the root of his problems with some people. I am trying to give him a chance, but all I can see is the arrogant, whiny, and then crying guy in a state trooper’s car because of his own doing.
George Jones didn’t always behave, but at least you knew it was pure George when he was drunk and ranting and raving at Georgia cops. It wasn’t a good thing for him to do, but it was in some twisted way confirming what I thought he was and oddly endearing. I can’t fully explain that sentiment because George definitely should not have been driving drunk, but I still love George.
I think that kind of feeling goes to why ZB is not always seen in a positive light. Maybe he’s not being true to himself, or maybe he is.
Steve
May 13, 2025 @ 11:48 am
George Jones’s transgressions became endearing because they were incorporated into country music lore and the man sang like an honky-tonk deity. The passing of decades has softened ire.
His actions and reputation wouldn’t have survived the social media age.
May 13, 2025 @ 12:09 pm
True – all very good points. Social media and videos of everything make life very tough now for young people (or anyone really). Love the “honky-tonk deity” part. 🙂
May 13, 2025 @ 1:51 pm
sad, kindergarden stuff.
If you can make a (good) living with your music, your own way and you got fans you shouldn’t complain.
Most of us are not so lucky, please focus on writing great songs and keep your champagne problems private.
May 14, 2025 @ 5:47 am
I love John Moreland’s music, but jesus this reeks of jealousy and petty bullshit. And it also reminds me, that its a crime The Black Gold Band only put out one album. That record is a god damned American treasure of musical brilliance, and I feel like 10 people heard it.
May 15, 2025 @ 10:10 am
I got the opportunity to see DF record his red barn set while eloping with my wife. We also ran into him at a bar in Lexington after the fact. Super nice guy. Not the most talkative, but observant and thoughtful.
DF and Moreland are also both a pretty good bit older than ZB. I’m sure they were never an asshole when they were in their early 20s. Also he’s that young with a lot of damn money. That warps people.
May 16, 2025 @ 6:31 pm
I understand why there was a need to write this article, and it was written well. Now can you please consider writing about the super talented Nashville musician Adam “Ditch” Kurtz announcing his candidacy for Governor of Tennessee? That seems like something more productive than soap opera drama.
Thanks.
May 16, 2025 @ 10:24 pm
Ha! Are you kidding me? I can’t even post an album review for a woman on this site anymore without the commenters freaking out. I’ve been arguing that Willie nelson doesn’t use Auto-tune and isn’t AI-generated, and you think SCM commenters are mature enough to digest a straight up political post? It would be a funnel for American dumfucks screaming at their screens.
May 17, 2025 @ 5:47 am
Well, i get your point. Really, i just wanted some press for Ditch. I think it is cool. And i am politically agnostic. But judging by the tone of your response, my request is synonymous with saying “Hey, Trigger why don’t you let these toddlers drive your car?” Lol. Sorry, bout that.
May 17, 2025 @ 5:50 am
Saving Country Music: A funnel for American dumfucks screaming at their screens!
Lol. Love your work and have for years. A little levity for saturday morning.
May 17, 2025 @ 6:10 pm
“Borderline racist jokes” and brought an adult to a bar. What a douche this John boy is.
May 24, 2025 @ 11:28 pm
It is not an excuse and he needs to mature and know his audience but most of the stories can likely be attributed to people who aren’t used to being around hard drinking military dudes in their 20s. He sounds like he hasn’t learned his civilian world filter yet. To the rest of us, mid level innocuous banter to them sounds like a war crime.
May 25, 2025 @ 3:43 pm
Is the author of this looking to be an apologist for him every time he’s an asshole or is he looking to suck him off? Either way, people are tired of this guy.
May 29, 2025 @ 1:18 pm
Thanks for this one.