Separating Truth from Fiction in Oliver Anthony’s Ascent

Ever since Oliver Anthony and “Rich Men North of Richmond” went viral, the accusations that he’s an “industry plant” or that his meteoric rise has been the product of “Astroturfing” have been pervasive throughout social media. In fact, depending on your particular social network feed, this might have been how you were introduced to the song, or it may be the only thing you’ve seen about it. Tweets claiming that Anthony is nothing more than a fabrication have been retweeted hundreds and sometimes thousands of times.
A mere mention of Oliver Anthony often results in a long trail of comments screaming these “industry plant” and “Astroturfing” accusations. By the way, “Astroturfing” means the fabrication of grassroots support in something that is truly controlled by big monied shadow actors in the background. Other accusation against Oliver Anthony include that he’s is a rich man himself, as well as a conspiracy theorist, if not outright QAnon due to the “minors on an island” line from the song.
As someone who has regularly been speculative of certain performers in the country music space and the general gaming and laundering of “authenticity” in the country industry, I respect the cynicism the public has brought to the Oliver Anthony phenomenon. When an artist and a song shoot straight to the very top of the charts like “Rich Men North of Richmond” has (it’s the #1 song on the Billboard Hot 100 this week), it deserves tough scrutiny.
In the past, I have brought similar scrutiny to bear on artists and performers myself, including upon individuals whose music may otherwise be considered favorable to more traditionally-leaning country fans. For example, Saving Country Music directly called out the clearly fabricated origin story of the Big Machine Records band Midland when they were originally sold as coming up through Austin honky tonks.
But after running down every conspiracy theory, looking into every viral Twitter thread, speaking to numerous folks in the industry, and doing deep research into this Oliver Anthony and “Rich Men North of Richmond” phenomenon, I’m sorry, there just doesn’t seem to be any validity to these “industry plant” and “Astroturfing” claims, at least not at the moment.
What is true is that right-wing influencers on Twitter (now X) and other places helped take Oliver Anthony’s already bubbling up viral moment, and sent it into the stratosphere. But just because the right got organized behind the song doesn’t mean it was orchestrated by some underhanded scheme.
The one thing Saving Country Music has not done is speak to Oliver Anthony or his co-manager Draven Riffe personally, despite multiple efforts. But other outlets have spoken to Draven Riffe, who also is the individual behind the RadioWV YouTube channel that debuted “Rich Men North of Richmond.” Oliver Anthony has addressed some of the criticisms toward him directly as well. And so far, everything checks out.
Draven Riffe told Billboard, “There was not a whole lot of planning involved. We just knew if we got the video out there people were going to love the song and it would resonate with a lot of folks. There wasn’t some big massive planning team around this. I had a few friends who helped us push the song out there, like my friend Josh [Baer], who has a page called Country Central. We all coordinated and Oliver’s following as well, we just tried to push it out there all at once with our little group of friends and that’s how it happened.”
Another reason you can have some confidence that this isn’t all some sort of industry psyop is because we’ve yet to see any scathing exposés into Oliver Richmond and “Rich Men North of Richmond” in the press, and trust me, it’s not from people not trying, including myself. If there were any smoking guns, or even smoke in this being some sort of industry plant situation, it would be reported on because it would immediately be viral content.
Chris Willman at Variety dove deep into Oliver Anthony’s story as well, and found nothing coming close to “Astroturfing” or Anthony being a “industry plant.” Even Rolling Stone that immediately spun Anthony’s viral moment into culture war click bait by centering their reporting on the story of how right-wing influencers had jumped on Oliver Anthony’s bandwagon early on (which they did), even they concluded a report from Anthony’s massive show this weekend in Moyock, North Carolina by saying,
“It’s hard to say with certainty just how much the genuine in-person reaction for Anthony is reflected on the charts, but this much is true: On a golf course in North Carolina, the enthusiasm for Anthony’s music went far deeper than any promotional efforts from conservative influencers.”
It doesn’t matter what the hunch is from your favorite social media personality, or how many times their spurious and unfounded accusations are retweeted, or how much you hate Oliver Anthony or “Richmond North of Richmond.” There’s just nothing true to the allegations that its all a hose job on the public, and least not anything that a breathless and eager army of media has been able to hunt down at this point.
None of this is a commentary on “Rich Men North of Richmond” itself. Whether you love it or hate it is irrespective of whether there is integrity behind how the song went viral. But of course like everything in this contentious time, often when there is something people don’t like or disagree with the message of, instead of battling back and forth on the merit of it in good faith, they cast aspersions and try to sow doubt through conspiracy, which social media amplifies, while truth and verified information gets depreciated and dies in the algorithms.
To be frank there is a level of “cope” in how we’re seeing certain people try to act like there’s no validity whatsoever to Oliver Anthony’s viral moment. In truth, right-wing documentarian and influencer Matt Walsh hit the nail on the head when he said, “The main reason this song resonates with so many people isn’t political. It’s because the song is raw and authentic. We are suffocated by artificiality. Everything around us is fake. A guy in the woods pouring his heart over his guitar is real.”
This is the same reason we saw Sturgill Simpson, then Chris Stapleton, then Tyler Childers, then Zach Bryan break down barriers for artists outside of the mainstream industry in country music and completely revolutionize the genre. We are living within those moments right now, and Oliver Anthony is just the latest example of that. This is a cultural phenomenon, and now it’s one that has reached all the way to the #1 song in the world.
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To further address some of the criticisms of Oliver Anthony, let’s take them one by one.
Right Wing Pundits Are Who Pushed Oliver Anthony to the Top
T/F = TRUE
Yes, Matt Walsh, Dan Bongino, Kari Lake, John Rich, Marjorie Taylor Greene and many other major right-wing influencers helped make “Rich Men North of Richmond” the biggest song in America. This is undeniable, and will always be a part of the Oliver Anthony viral moment, and a vector for criticism by some. That doesn’t mean that the song didn’t also enjoy widespread virality in its own right too.
Bots Made “Rich Men North of Richmond” Go Viral
T/F = False
Of all the spurious claims against the song, this is one of the easiest to verify as false. Some opportunistic conspiracy theorists have taken screenshots of some bot activity, and characterized it as the impetus for the Oliver Anthony viral moment in its entirety. Instead, this is just the regular phenomenon of any viral moment. Bots always seize on what is popular. But Dan Bongino, Matt Walsh, and Joe Rogan are not “bots.” It was right-wing pundits, influencers, politicians, and other popular personalities that gave the song the extra boost, not bots.
That said, “Rich Men North of Richmond” likely benefited from Twitter’s (now X’s) boost of conservative voices in the social network’s algorithm under new owner Elon Musk. It’s been previously documented how tweets from right-wing individuals like Matt Walsh are weighted heavier now in X’s feeds. This probably helped send Oliver Anthony’s song over the top.
There also have been some strange comments on Oliver Anthony threads like musician Matt Moran has pointed out. But it’s still hard to say this type of suspicious activity or bot traffic is what constituted Oliver Anthony’s viral moment in its entirety, or even to a significant extent.
Oliver Anthony is an Industry Plant
T/F = False
There continues to be absolutely no evidence that the mainstream music industry is behind Oliver Anthony, and if there is a major label or big money behind the scenes pulling the levers, they have yet to be revealed, and so have the levers themselves. “Rich Men North of Richmond” was distributed to DSPs such as Spotify, Apple Music, etc. through Distrokid. We know this due to the metadata and copyright for Oliver Anthony’s songs ending with “DK.” Saving Country Music did a deep dive into the DistroKid distribution network when running down a song theft scheme using the DIY distribution company in 2020.
Nobody working through or with the industry would ever use DistroKid to distribute music. It’s too clunky, unreliable, and amateurish. There might be an effort to hide the origin of the music, but they would still perhaps copyright it under Oliver Anthony’s name, or perhaps use companies like The Orchard or Sony’s Redeye to distribute the music. This would actually make it easier to hide the origins of the music as opposed to Distrokid.
Also, the original video of “Richmond North of Richmond” was released via the YouTube channel RadioWV, which has been a known and established YouTube channel releasing similar types of videos for over two years, including others that have gone viral. Kentucky/West Virginia singer/songwriter Logan Halstead went viral some 2 1/2 years ago when he debuted his song “Dark Black Coal” on RadioWV. The Halstead song now has nearly 7 million views, and other raw acoustic performance have done the same.
The owner of the RadioWV YouTube channel is Draven Riffe, who is also Oliver Anthony’s co-manager.
There Was a Scheme (or Bots) to Purchase the Song on ITunes to Push It Up The Charts
T/F = False
Undoubtedly, people purchasing downloads of “Rich Men North of Richmond” and other Oliver Anthony songs is a significant factor in how the song immediately shot up the charts. But you don’t have to give into conspiracy theories to understand how this happened organically, especially when you consider the right-wing political support for the song.
The controversy surrounding Jason Aldean’s song and video for “Try That In A Small Town” very much set the table for “Rich Men North of Richmond.” When there was an active effort to attempt to cancel the Aldean song, right wing networks on social media were mobilized to purchase the song en masse to support it. When “Rich Men North of Richmond” came out and was being touted by the same political influencers, listeners purchased “Rich Men North of Richmond” almost by muscle memory.
Is anyone actually listening to these downloads on their personal computers or iPhones? Probably not. They’re just streaming it on their service of choice. But purchasing a song on iTunes has become a sort of de facto tip jar in music, and a way for listeners to fundamentally support a track or artist they like. K-Pop Stan armies and other mobilized fan groups have been doing this for years. It doesn’t take a conspiracy theory to understand how “Richmond North of Richmond” racked up so many downloads.
Also, “Rich Men North of Richmond” is not the only song from Oliver Anthony to benefit from this. All of his songs are receiving tremendous download support.
What is true about this accusation is that “Richmond North of Richmond” does owe a lot of its chart support to these downloads according to Billboard, as opposed to just streams like many popular songs. But as also has been reported by Billboard, all of Oliver Anthony’s songs are receiving significant support via streaming as well.
Oliver Anthony is a Conspiracy Theorist / QAnon
T/F = False
This is arguably the most irresponsible and dangerous of the accusations against Oliver Anthony and “Rich Men North of Richmond,” especially since it’s one of the few that has seen pickup from the mainstream press. Due to the line in the song “minors on an island,” people are saying that Oliver Anthony has given into right wing/QAnon conspiracy theories.
For example, The Guardian in their article on the song states, “Anthony even gives a nod towards conspiracy theories about paedophiles.” The Washington Post says that Anthony is “mainstreaming conspiracy theories” with his song.
The Oliver Anthony line has to do with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, and his Little St. James Island in the Virgin Islands where he brought young underage women who were sexually exploited by men of power from across the world of politics, business, and academia. This is not a conspiracy theory. Little St. James existed, and Jeffrey Epstein was a convicted sex offender.
The Virgin Islands are suing Epstein’s former banks over this issue right now. A&E is debuting a new documentary series called Secrets of Prince Andrew on August 21st about the British Royal Family member’s involvement with Jeffrey Epstein.
To couch convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein’s escapades into the domain of conspiracy theory is a gross insult to Epstein’s victims, and an obfuscation of the truth. Sure, QAnon and other conspiracy theories also have a child sex abuse component to them that is hard to verify. But the Jeffry Epstein story and the shocking details are absolutely not.
Oliver Anothony is Apolitical
T/F = Somewhat False
In the video Oliver Anthony published right before “Rich Men North of Richmond,” he says, “I sit pretty dead center down the aisle on politics, and always always have. It seems like both sides serve the same master. And that master is not someone of any good to the people of this country.”
But make no mistake about it, Anthony’s quoting Bible verses before his live shows, and he’s made no effort to distance himself from the sometimes polarizing right wing people who’ve cozied up to him. People on the left tend to love to tell you their politics, as do people on the far right. People from the center right often like to claim they’re apolitical, but in truth they lean in an obvious direction. There is nothing wrong with that, but there is definitely a political element to Oliver Anthony and “Rich Men North of Richmond.”
Oliver Anthony is Actually a Wealthy Landowner
T/F = False
As the microscope has come down on all of Oliver Anthony’s affairs, some have attempted to characterize him as a wealthy landowner who is in no position to sing a song such as “Rich Men North of Richmond.” Even if he was wealthy, you don’t have to live it to write it. Some consider Jason Isbell’s new song “King of Oklahoma” as one of the best songs so far in 2023. It’s total fiction. Johnny Cash did not shoot a man in Reno just to watch him die.
Some have specifically criticized Anthony over his purchase of 92 acres of land in Virginia for $100,000 in May of 2019. How can someone who owns 92 acres be complaining about rich men? But $1,000/acre rural farmland in Virginia is not exactly a handsome estate. The average house in the United States currently costs $417,000. If anything, the real estate deal verifies that Oliver Anthony is of below average means.
Oliver Anthony addressed this concern and many others in a post on Facebook on August 17th.
Im sitting in such a weird place in my life right now. I never wanted to be a full time musician, much less sit at the top of the iTunes charts. Draven from RadioWv and I filmed these tunes on my land with the hope that it may hit 300k views. I still don’t quite believe what has went on since we uploaded that. It’s just strange to me.
People in the music industry give me blank stares when I brush off 8 million dollar offers. I don’t want 6 tour buses, 15 tractor trailers and a jet. I don’t want to play stadium shows, I don’t want to be in the spotlight. I wrote the music I wrote because I was suffering with mental health and depression. These songs have connected with millions of people on such a deep level because they’re being sung by someone feeling the words in the very moment they were being sung. No editing, no agent, no bullshit. Just some idiot and his guitar. The style of music that we should have never gotten away from in the first place.
So that being said, I have never taken the time to tell you who I actually am. Here’s a formal introduction:
My legal name is Christopher Anthony Lunsford. My grandfather was Oliver Anthony, and “Oliver Anthony Music” is a dedication not only to him, but 1930’s Appalachia where he was born and raised. Dirt floors, seven kids, hard times. At this point, I’ll gladly go by Oliver because everyone knows me as such. But my friends and family still call me Chris. You can decide for yourself, either is fine.
In 2010, I dropped out of high school at age 17. I have a GED from Spruce Pine, NC. I worked multiple plant jobs in Western NC, my last being at the paper mill in McDowell county. I worked 3rd shift, 6 days a week for $14.50 an hour in a living hell. In 2013, I had a bad fall at work and fractured my skull. It forced me to move back home to Virginia. Due to complications from the injury, it took me 6 months or so before I could work again.
From 2014 until just a few days ago, I’ve worked outside sales in the industrial manufacturing world. My job has taken me all over Virginia and into the Carolinas, getting to know tens of thousands of other blue collar workers on job sites and in factories. Ive spent all day, everyday, for the last 10 years hearing the same story. People are SO damn tired of being neglected, divided and manipulated.
In 2019, I paid $97,500 for the property and still owe about $60,000 on it. I am living in a 27′ camper with a tarp on the roof that I got off of craigslist for $750.
There’s nothing special about me. I’m not a good musician, I’m not a very good person. I’ve spent the last 5 years struggling with mental health and using alcohol to drown it. I am sad to see the world in the state it’s in, with everyone fighting with each other. I have spent many nights feeling hopeless, that the greatest country on Earth is quickly fading away.
August 21, 2023 @ 10:25 am
Dude admits he sold his soul in the very first line of the song. Something happened behind the scenes to get that song to go viral overnight. Nothing will change my mind.
August 21, 2023 @ 10:46 am
LOL is this another form of BlueAnon?
August 21, 2023 @ 10:48 am
Hey Sev,
I understand. Unfortunately, we live in a moment in society when even when people are presented with an overwhelming body of evidence that refutes their beliefs, and there is little or not evidence supporting them, they still decide to believe what they want, because they’re more comfortable in those conclusions. This is why the fabric of society is ripping apart, and we’re spiraling toward a very troubling moment.
August 21, 2023 @ 11:17 am
The irony of that statement coming from you just made me laugh at spit out my Gatorade.
August 23, 2023 @ 4:27 pm
Well, I’m with ya on that one Trigger. I actually know a guy that went to High School with the guy. He hasn’t talked to him in year but from what he says, it is highly unlikely this guy is a “plant.” It is pretty interesting seeing people react this way to the guy. He isn’t an amazing musician or writer. He states that he understands this so there might not be much more in the tank after this, but who knows. The song resonates and he does his thing. I think he is wasting opportunities and those business types remember that, so if he changes his mind there probably won’t be a second chance. That’s said, not everyone wants bright lights and stardom. A lot of us making music just want to be creative and pay the bills if we can. It seems like this kid got way in, way to quick unexpectedly and just wants to let this moment be and then go back to normal. Not sure that will happen for him now. Wish the best for him. Plant…not so sure on that one.
August 21, 2023 @ 10:28 am
Yeah my only problem with him remains the song is the most standard anti-populist right wing message there is: my freedom is threatened because I have to pay taxes and poor people I don’t approve of benefit from government assistance, and the solution is to cut taxes which will primarily benefit the richest Americans. This is just as basic a conservative message as there is which is why right wingers are pushing him to the moon, it’s the rare viral moment of authentic culture that conforms to their worldview.
August 21, 2023 @ 10:54 am
An across-the-board tax cut It may primarily benefit the richest Americans in terms of total dollars saved, but having been there I can assure you that in terms of impact on the individual a $1000 tax cut for a guy making $40,000 is a much bigger deal than a $10,000 tax cut for a guy making $400,000. Saying we shouldn’t cut taxes because it will benefit people who don’t need it is no different than saying we should cut social programs because they benefit people who don’t need them.
August 21, 2023 @ 11:27 am
That’s why the left favors progressive taxes and not flat rates.
August 21, 2023 @ 10:58 am
I’m not a big fan of the song, but this is just deliberate misrepresentation. The ‘controversial’ line about obese people eating fudge rounds milking welfare is sandwiched between a line about actually needy people starving on the street and another about the skyrocketing male suicide rate. It’s obviously a comment on how government assistance is never going to where it’s most needed- not an attack on the principle of government assistance… it’s also an obvious issue if you actually live in that environment. Our system is set up so only people smart/connected enough to grift off the system can (both rich and poor) and people who really need help most fall through the cracks. Maybe it’s not a perfect line, but it’s nowhere close to what left wing ideologues want to hear in it.
August 21, 2023 @ 11:30 am
It’s just an ignorant line. Food stamps are an amazing program that have done more for children than almost anything else. Food stamps work. He chose a terrible example that he should have known is just a right wing talking point.
August 21, 2023 @ 11:50 am
I took the line as a commentary on those who do not try to better themselves while receiving government assistance. I have personally known people who have only worked a certain amount of hours a week so they could still receive food stamps/welfare, even when tons of overtime was offered to them. I have also known many people who receive food stamps and do not use them at all – they sell them for pennies on the dollar for cash to buy things that food stamps do not cover. I always assumed the idea of government assistance was just that – assistance until you could get back on your feet and provide for yourself; however, I have never known a single person who has been on food stamps or welfare to come off of it. I personally am not all in on “Rich Men North of Richmond”, but I do think its clever. And judging by the download numbers, it appears he isnt the only one who feels this way…
August 21, 2023 @ 12:25 pm
It doesn’t fit the overall message regarding “Rich Men North of Richmond” to target or people on welfare. It’s probably the weakest line, as well as the line about the government not caring about the already heavily subsidized [coal] miners in favor of Epstein’s island.
Plenty of people get off welfare. People collect unemployment and then find work all the time. Congresswoman Lauren Boebert of Colorado was on welfare.
You see the small percentage of abuse. You don’t see the millions of people and children that survive because of the program. Obviously it could be better, but things could be a lot worse without it, and playing up the stereotype is harmful.
August 21, 2023 @ 12:01 pm
I’m in line at the grocery store every week behind morbidly obese people buying junk food with their EBT card, then another cart full of soda on their credit card. Then I go outside and there are mentally ill people in the parking lot who can barely speak and need help who are wandering around like zombies. Maybe this doesn’t bother you, but for alot of people on both sides it seems like incompetence (or just uncaring malice) by the govt.
What i’ve described is reality for many and if it’s a “rw” talking point than the left should come up w/ a way to address what we all see. Being that the democratic party is now the party of the wealthy (statistically true) it’s more likely that they are insulated from the everyday observations of the lower economic half of the country.
Anyways- don’t wanna argue abt politics. My point was the lyric is NOT an attack on welfare as a concept but on how welfare works in practice. It’s a plea to fix it, not end it (as ideologues want to read into it). You can read it honestly and still disagree and think food stamps are great w/o pinning him w/ “he just wants to end welfare” when that’s not what he wrote.
August 21, 2023 @ 12:28 pm
Stereotyping a program that helps so many people is harmful. He may not want to end it, but the media that pushes these narratives, and the media members that pushed him, absolutely want to end it.
The Republican party wants to destroy the safety net that so many people need, including those that can’t find help like your example. It’s laughable that you mention Democrats being disconnected.
August 21, 2023 @ 3:33 pm
He might not want to end welfare but the people lifting him up do, and the stereotype he is singing about is certainly employed for that goal.
It’s funny you mention Democrats being disconnected when it’s obvious that Republicans are actively trying to dismantle any social safety nets.
August 24, 2023 @ 10:51 pm
It’s not an ignorant line; it’s more knowledgeable than what you are saying. The purpose of EBT is to provide nutrition. The song points out that you can buy snacks that provide ZERO valuable nutrients, but do make people sick or dead. The reason EBT pays for soda and junk food is because Coca-Cola, Nabisco and other mega-corporations lobby Congress to include them. So, thanks to those rich men north of Richmond, taxes pay for something that keeps poor people poor and miserable. One study estimated that over a third of SNAP money was spent in toxic soda and sugar. Seems like the singing farmer guy is speaking from a place of greater knowledge about this subject than the bitter critics.
August 25, 2023 @ 7:46 am
Last I checked, Coca-Cola is headquartered in Atlanta, so you should blame the rich men south of Richmond.
He’s not a farmer, he’s an ex sales guy with some land.
Food stamps have been proven to help lift people, especially kids, out of poverty. It is a successful program, but yes, could definitely be better. Attacking the poor isn’t how it improves.
August 24, 2023 @ 10:58 pm
Why are you so bent on choosing to not see the juxtaposition of the verses? Further, the opinions of others to which you disagree seem to bother you to the point of condescension… Why is that?
You’ve responded to several comments on this thread I’ve seen so far and you’re rebuttals – while i wholeheartedly believe you believe what you’re espousing – are out of touch with reality and frankly just untrue. No one wants to dismantle safety nets (ESPECIALLY THE WRITER OF THIS SONG) we just want money to be spent on people who actually need help. I’ll use the example of obesity as it is prevalent: Obesity is a choice. The fact that a choice can be deemed qualification for full disability is absolutely mind-boggling. There is no such thing as accountability in this world anymore.
And just for fun-sies: the only people who really hurt from higher tax rates are the lower and middle class tax brackets. If you make 1M a year and you pay 300k guess what… you’re still making an astounding amount of money. Do you realize you have to make $150k a year in most states to actually bring home 6 figures annually!?
The top 1% of earners pay over 40% of all income taxes, while the top 10% of earners pay over 75% of income taxes…
The inflation rate from 2001 to 2023 is 73%. Do you understand the consequences that has on our dollars that we’re having taken from us!?
Do you not understand what caused this inflation? Shutting down a country over a virus with a mortality rate lower than Influenza – which we already had vaccines for.
I’ll add I’m not anti taxes, but I am certainly anti-misappropriation of tax dollars. Why are we paying enough in taxes to send BILLIONS of fucking dollars to a country on the other side of the world that we signed peace treaties over promising not to fuck around with them!? OH right… Because the current state of our union is out of CONTROL. They’re all shit. Left and Right, which if you listen closely this song will tell you the same thing.
August 25, 2023 @ 7:53 am
Plenty of people, including the people pushing Oliver Anthony up the charts, absolutely want to dismantle the safety net, and do so by making similar claims about welfare queens.
The extremely wealthy should pay a larger share of taxes, progressive taxes are a good thing. You seem to agree with that in one paragraph and disagree in the next.
The US and Russia signed a treaty guaranteeing Ukraine’s sovereignty, not promising to stay out. By sending surplus equipment through lend lease, we are honoring that treaty.
Corporate greed has led to most of the problems we have today. Thank Reagan for that.
August 21, 2023 @ 2:44 pm
I agree that people aren’t taking the food stamps line in its context. The very next line after I interpreted to be about people being made sick and dying by the kinds of foods that are relatively cheap and available in rural food deserts rather than male suicide. I think you can think someone who is overweight can need food assistance, but think that food should be high quality proteins, produce, and starches and not fudge rounds. I think you can be overweight in poverty precisely because our government makes choices to subsidize the kinds of food that make you sick in high quantities while keeping nourishing food relatively expensive and difficult to get in rural places, especially if you dont have the space to garden.
I know that I could drive for 45+ minutes in eastern KY and never pass a grocery store that wasn’t just a convenience store. It becomes much cheaper to live off hot pockets than cook for yourself in those circumstances. And you’d think everyone could garden, but the mines own all the high land and the poor folks live on the creek banks very close to one another, so you might not have much yard, and what yard you have floods semi regularly.
Anyway, I think that one can easily interpret the fudge rounds lines as a fair criticism of American food assistance policies and subsidies from a leftist perspective. There’s no need to caste him as a poor hating monster as some have been for that lyric.
August 22, 2023 @ 4:56 pm
I think his line about being 5’3 and 300 pounds and not needing fudge rounds is a cheap shot. America is the most obese nation in the world except for some South Pacific islands. Oliver himself doesn’t look to be small, and he sets himself up to look like a a hypocrite. I also think he must know that reading Bible verses before a show will make conservative Christians think he is one of them. IF he is truly down the middle politically, and like Bob Dylan, is true to himself and remains true to his own vision, l believe he can be part of a movement of healing for America.
August 22, 2023 @ 11:46 am
Nothing new. The far eft tried to monopolize Bob Dylan in the 60’s to be their “voice”. He made it perfectly clear that he wasn’t going to be the spokesperson for them or any other political movement. This made Pete Seeger and others very upset. I think Oliver Anthony is following Dylan’s blueprint on how to handle this.
September 19, 2023 @ 1:08 pm
Oliver Anthony is an industry plant with family ties to Showbiz! This came out today:
https://www.issuewire.com/oliver-anthony-family-showbiz-ties-exposed-in-trademark-filing-1777313310505505
August 21, 2023 @ 10:32 am
Just a regular guy expressing feelings shared by millions in song. That’s as real as it gets. Why it turned into political drama and conspiracy theories is more a commentary on the said state of our societal discourse in the country. Ain’t nothing wrong with writing what you feel and what you observe around you and sharing it with others. That’s the point of being an artist.
August 21, 2023 @ 12:41 pm
No, there is nothing wrong with a person writing a song and sharing it. That’s not the controversy. It’s more the influencers who boosted this song and their motives. As Woody Allen once said ‘The problem with Wagner’s music is it makes you want to go out and invade Poland’.
August 21, 2023 @ 2:51 pm
It turned into a political drama mainly because a bunch of online conservative provocateurs glommed onto it.
August 21, 2023 @ 10:34 am
His story is interesting to me, I just wish his music was more interesting. He sounds like every other Appalachian folk singer of the past ten years who picks up a guitar or banjo. He’s not bad, just generic and none of his other songs are as interesting. He’s caught lightning in a bottle, I hope he’s able to capitalize on it, but judging from his Spotify numbers on other songs, it’s not catching on beyond the viral moment so far.
August 21, 2023 @ 10:53 am
All of Oliver Anthony’s songs are most definitely catching on, and his viral moment has been felt across his catalog. Billboard wrote a specific story about this that I linked to above in the story, though it’s paywalled:
Oliver Anthony’s Viral Success Has Already Spread to His Whole Catalog
https://www.billboard.com/pro/oliver-anthonys-streaming-success-viral-catalog-rich-men-north-of-richmond/
It seems most of his activity has been through iTunes/Apple Music, not Spotify. But 3 million plays on “Ain’t Gotta Dollar” is not nothing. That’s major traction for an unsigned artist.
August 21, 2023 @ 10:58 am
I can’t see the Apple numbers, but on Spotify his viral has 14 million plays and counting, the next drops off to 3 million and 2 million and 1 million and a bunch under a million. That tells me that a lot of people are listening to that one song and if they venture further into his catalogue, the majority don’t make it beyond 2 or 3 more songs when he’s essentially released an album’s worth of singles in the past year or so. It’s interesting that he’s attracting more paying customers than streaming customers if that is the case.
August 21, 2023 @ 12:31 pm
No doubt there is a gulf between “Rich Men North of Richmond” and his next biggest song, but that doesn’t mean the rest of his catalog is being ignored. 99.999% of artists releasing singles to Spotify don’t receive 3 million spins in a week. There is a good chance “Ain’t Gotta Dollar” will debut on the Billboard Hot 100 this week as well.
August 21, 2023 @ 2:26 pm
But how long can he keep it up, and how long will people keep buying it? All of his songs seem to be about him. The stories he tells, such as they are, don’t go anywhere and don’t reveal any interesting characters. A storyteller he is not. There are a limited number of ways to keep writing songs that say, “I have no money, I think modern life sucks and I like to get drunk and/or high.” (He really likes to use the word “bowl” in his songs….)
Won’t that get old fast? I could be wrong, but I doubt we’ll be talking about Oliver Anthony songs in 12 months.
August 21, 2023 @ 2:56 pm
The dude literally just started his music career less than two weeks ago. Maybe he will flame out, and with the way his music has been so politically polarized, this could very well be what happens. But I remember people saying the same exact thing about Zach Bryan and now he’s 10X bigger than Luke Bryan. I don’t think any of us know where this goes, but all of his songs were literally recorded on an IPhone except for “Rich Men North of Richmond.”
August 22, 2023 @ 2:55 pm
heyday-
i’m with you.
he’s a T shirt. a movie of the week. in other words, a flash in the pan. 15 minutes of fame. just my prediction. one day we’ll all have a good laugh about it.
i saw him on fox news (who has, of course, adopted him) saying something about how his music resonates because people need something to feel good about (or something like that).
is he serious? this is ‘music to kill yourself by’.
he’s also spouting off about turning down 8 million dollars. from who, and for what, i don’t know. i’m skeptical.
i think the country has ADHD, and he’s a squirrel.
but he’s no dummy, and no country bumpkin. ‘brainsley airhead’ (ainsley earhardt) on fox has referred to him as a ‘good old boy’ a number of times. that’s not true, IMO. i find him to be fairly engaging in the limited interviews i’ve seen.
i like him- he seems completely genuine. i hate the music- everything about it. bad writing. terrible rhyming schemes (he ain’t jackson browne). awful ‘singing’ (yelling). no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
again, just my opinion.
i hope it all goes away…and soon.
August 21, 2023 @ 3:06 pm
Oliver Anthony holds three of the top 5 songs on the all genre Digital Songs Sales chart.
No. 1, “Rich Men North of Richmond” (147,000 sold Aug. 11-17)
No. 2, “Aint Gotta Dollar” (17,000)
No. 5, “Ive Got To Get Sober (12,000)
No. 10, “I Want To Go Home” (8,000)
No. 11, “Virginia” (6,000)
No. 15, “Rich Mans Gold” (5,000)
No. 19, “Always Love You (Like a Good Ole Dog)” (4,000)
No. 21, “Feeling Purdy Good” (4,000)
No. 23, “Doggonit” (3,000)
No. 24, “Stuck Living in the New World” (3,000)
No. 29, “90 Some Chevy” (3,000)
No. 37, “Hell on Earth” (2,000)
No. 43, “Between You & Me” (2,000)
August 21, 2023 @ 10:35 am
Wonder why rich folk such as Matt Walsh, Dan Bongino, Kari Lake, John Rich, Marjorie Taylor Greene, like “Rich Men North of Richmond”?
August 21, 2023 @ 12:30 pm
because the lyrics are so unsubtle and basic that they can finally understand the meaning of a song
August 22, 2023 @ 6:44 pm
No, it’s because they also agree with this guy:
https://x.com/stockmasterjay/status/1693801691907236282?s=46
And if you don’t, you’re the problem.
August 24, 2023 @ 5:51 pm
wrong nazi
August 25, 2023 @ 3:20 pm
Typical leftist. Everyone you disagree with is a nazi. And you wonder why no one likes you.
August 25, 2023 @ 6:15 pm
confederate flag picture of course, just admit you’re a racist piece of human garbage already.
August 25, 2023 @ 9:14 pm
Interesting how I am unable to reply to @diamond, so… I’ll just reply to myself:
>diamond
>August 25, 2023 @ 6:15 pm
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>confederate flag picture of course, just admit you’re a racist piece of human garbage already.
I’ll be sure to tell the black guys who frequent my shop wearing and/or displaying that flag what you think. I’m sure they’ll care about your opinion about as much as I do.
August 25, 2023 @ 6:10 pm
LOL actually lots of people like me, but only bigots like you. Typical rightist-trying to excuse hate speech as mere “disagreements” burn in hell worthless c u next tuesday.
August 25, 2023 @ 7:30 pm
oooo… an internet piece of fecal matter called me a name. Several, actually. What EVER will I do. ????
August 21, 2023 @ 10:38 am
Like i said earlier. Both the left and the right were going to take advantage of this song. In another time in history, before the 24 second new cycle, this song wouldn’t have been noticed. BIlly Bragg posted another version of this song. Lets see what traction it gets?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGNFR7pgxDY
August 21, 2023 @ 12:51 pm
That’s great and hits the mail right on the head. Thanks for sharing the link.
August 26, 2023 @ 3:45 pm
Billy Bragg is only interested in workers if they subscribe to his marxist agenda. Right now he has attached himself to another despicable cause, that of the ‘trans women’. Or as Ricky Gervais rightly calls them: the new women, the ones with a penis. Bragg is a sad old man trying to stay relevant by repeating the latest student slogans.
August 21, 2023 @ 10:39 am
The whole “poor people pissed at other poor people on welfare” schtick is really, really old.
August 21, 2023 @ 10:58 am
It’s also true, though. You’ve got bob who has decided that he’s going to do for himself come hell or high water and is busting his ass to accomplish nothing more than making ends meet and sometimes not even that, and he sees Bill who is living better than he is on the dole. The system is badlyu broken and there’s no motivation to fix it.
August 21, 2023 @ 11:39 am
It sounds like Oliver Anthony was himself a beneficiary of government benefits. You’d think he’d have some sympathy for others receiving aid as well.
August 21, 2023 @ 1:12 pm
Did you not listen to the song? He says 5’3″ 300 Pounders don’t need to buy Fudge Rounds on the taxpayers dime. That’s very different than say a 6 year old should starve
August 21, 2023 @ 2:14 pm
yeah, but like, what if that six year old is doesn’t meet your BMI standards?
what is the appropriate height/weight limit to hate on poor people that for many reasons (access, means, affordability) do not eat very health? just so we know going forward.
August 21, 2023 @ 3:36 pm
And how do you ensure no one is buying junk food? Should poor kids never be able to have fudge rounds? You want to throw out the baby (literally in this case) with the bathwater.
August 21, 2023 @ 10:51 am
I’m sure the guy is legitimate and he’s certainly talented. But man, I sure wish he had avoided punching down at poor people. I just can’t get behind it.
August 23, 2023 @ 8:20 am
Is it punching down? If the guy has legitimately had the issues he says he has had isn’t it a commentary on what he’s seen of his peers?
August 21, 2023 @ 10:51 am
Also in the Billboard article:
“God has chosen to speak through Oliver.” – Oliver’s manager.
Can’t wait for his future collaboration with Jelly Roll.
August 21, 2023 @ 10:57 am
He also has a public YouTube playlist recommending ‘videos that make your noggin [head] get bigger’. Three of the 48 videos are devoted to antisemitic conspiracy theories about 9/11
August 21, 2023 @ 1:15 pm
Antisemitic? I think you mean truthful.
The CIA coined the term “conspiracy theory” btw
August 21, 2023 @ 1:26 pm
saving country music ladies and gentlemen!
August 21, 2023 @ 2:22 pm
Bullshit
August 21, 2023 @ 3:48 pm
No, it’s antisemitism.
August 21, 2023 @ 1:52 pm
The 9/11 Commission Report: “Over 2,600 people died at the World Trade Center that morning; another 125 died at the Pentagon and 256 died on the 4, planes. The attack was perpetrated by 19 young Arabs acting at the behest of Islamic extremists.”
Cornell Law School: “ Conspiracy is an agreement between two or more people to commit an illegal act, along with an intent to achieve the agreement’s goal.”
Merriam-Webster Dictionary: “ Semite (noun) – a member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs”
The official stance of the US Federal Government is that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were the result of criminal conspiracy, committed by 19 Semitic individuals. If Mr. Oliver is, indeed, an anti Semite of the anti Jewish variety, he is truly an idiot because he, apparently, not only worships their god, but also purports to believe a Jewish man was God incarnate. Perhaps, charitably, he is simply suspicious of possible covert actions of Israel, as it exists as a nation state, as much as we are realistically suspicious of the machinations of our own.
August 21, 2023 @ 3:03 pm
your post is ludicrous as you attempt to sound intelligent. there was dancing Israelis after 9/11. What country benefits most from a destabilized Middle East after 9/11 with the invasions of Afghanistan , irag, and later Libya syria etc?? its “our greatest ally leach Israel …. or you can believe it was 19 barely literate ARABS with box cutters who did the most complex attack in history
August 21, 2023 @ 3:43 pm
This is a lie made up by the father of one of the attackers. I can’t believe your blatant antisemitism was approved by Trigger.
August 22, 2023 @ 12:39 pm
Osama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda were responsible for the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center.
Ramzi Yousef was arrested in Pakistan in ’95, as the escaped driver of the explosive laden van, that created the crater in the basement.
A pregnant woman getting to her car in the basement was murdered that day.
11 Sept. 2001, 19 terrorists from bin Laden’s Islamist extreme group, Al-Qaeda, made a run to bring down the 2 towers.
bin Laden was one sore loser that he was not able to bring the towers down in 1993.
Had major egg on his face.
Over 3,000 people were murdered on that day, when bin Laden sent his merry band of murderous assholes to the towers.
At the hands of Al-Qaeda.
Al-Qaeda, people …
Get your story straight.
August 22, 2023 @ 12:48 pm
Yes. With the support of Saudi Arabia.
August 23, 2023 @ 1:23 pm
sureeeeeee and everything they said about Covid was true also
August 21, 2023 @ 3:44 pm
Why’d you use the definition of “Semite” and not “antisemitism”? They may have the same root but obviously different definitions.
August 22, 2023 @ 10:57 am
If the definition of “Semite” remains valid, the addition of a suffix and prefix does not alter the root. If the dictionary definition of “antisemitism” refers solely to one subgroup of Semites and excludes, and thus simultaneously marginalizes, all other Semitic people, it does so erroneously and, presumably, intentionally. I am well aware that adding suffixes and prefixes to root words changes the definition – that is the entire point.
August 22, 2023 @ 11:41 am
That’s just not how language works.
August 22, 2023 @ 12:27 pm
By adding a prefix and suffix to “Semite” we are not changing who Semitic people are originally defined as being. Basic Venn diagram. All Jewish people may be Semites, but not all Semites are Jewish. Why invoke all Semitic people if only Jewish people are being referenced? Perhaps a different word should be used instead. Have a great day.
August 22, 2023 @ 12:50 pm
Nah, everyone knows the definition of antisemitism, regardless of the root.
August 22, 2023 @ 1:24 pm
That is because the average person has no clue what a Semite actually is. Nice talking with you.
August 22, 2023 @ 1:32 pm
No, it’s because individual words have definitions, in this case “antisemitism”.
August 22, 2023 @ 1:07 pm
Elsewhere in the 9/11 Commission Report you’ll find that 15 of the 19 hijackers were of Saudi Arabian descent (as was Bin Laden), two were from the United Arab Emirates, and one each from Egypt and Lebanon. Zero were from Israel and, for that matter, zero were from the countries we wasted nearly 20 years and countless lives invading. Saudi government agents Omar al-Bayoumi and Fahad al-Thumairy were also involved in the planning stages.
Israel has it’s share of problems, for sure (which isn’t a blanket criticism of all Israelis, let alone all Jewish people), but the evidence in this case points overwhelmingly to another Middle Eastern country. The same one the last president’s son-in-law received $2 billion from.
August 22, 2023 @ 5:28 pm
Looks like he deleted those 9/11 truther vids from his Youtube playlist, as many of the videos say updated today or yesterday.
I guess the Elders of Zion gave him a stern warning, just like I recommended at our big Zionist World Banking conference.
August 21, 2023 @ 10:59 am
“On a golf course in North Carolina, the enthusiasm for Anthony’s music went far deeper than any promotional efforts from conservative influencers.”
See, country fans do play golf.
August 21, 2023 @ 11:14 am
I cannot imagine reading this entire article and still remaining resolute in my beliefs that there are industrial shenanigans in progress. I will add that with years of experience in the music industry working for a major record label, I can only hope to assure you that the “fudge rounders” line among others would not ever make it out of the conference room. I wish Mr. Lunsford the best and if he reads this, I hope he will find some professional representation very soon. This could be the foundation of a great career or a bottle rocket in the history of music.
August 21, 2023 @ 1:33 pm
“I can only hope to assure you that the “fudge rounders” line among others would not ever make it out of the conference room.”
All the more reason not to listen to music that must get past bean counting gatekeepers before it’s ever heard.
August 21, 2023 @ 11:23 am
I’m not sure it’s fair to say that Oliver is not apolitical and that he leans center-right. Doing so is pure speculation based on how other people who are left, right, or center right act. I don’t see any reason to not take Oliver at his word that he is in the center. I’m not sure how or why it’s relevant either.
By the way, being in the center doesn’t you favor each party equally. Liberal, center & conservative ideology for the most part stays the same. The parties themselves are constantly changing where they fall on the sprectum, which could cause someone in center to favor one party strongly at a given time.
August 21, 2023 @ 12:26 pm
Most people are a little bit of this, a little bit of that. The whole liberal/conservative label is a way to broad brush people into 2 different groups to pit them against each other so they don’t see the real problem. Most people are not 100% one way or the other.
August 21, 2023 @ 11:47 am
That line about obese folks on welfare buying junk food is no joke and anybody who’s lived in a shithole area of this country knows it’s damn true. I grew up in Yuba County in Northern California, which is one of the poorest areas in the west and every 1st of the month welfare recipients would load up their carts with Little Debbie Snacks and cubes of Pepsi.
Nothing pissed me off more than having to sit in line at the Walmart or FoodMaxx watching someone whip out an EBT card to pay for a cart piled full of shit, while my wife and I worked four jobs between us just to scrape by with enough to keep food on our family’s table.
That fudge rounds line isn’t a jape aimed at the fat, lazy and poor, it’s 100% a statement of fact.
August 21, 2023 @ 12:22 pm
It’s kind of gestapo to police what people eat though, even if those people are using taxpayer funded EBT to buy their food. This is America, you should have freedom to decide for yourself what you want to eat. Do you really want the government telling people what they can and can’t eat, just because those people are poor?
And by the way, that first of the month this is pretty much everywhere. Everyone should know that grocery shopping is to be avoided on the first of the month.
August 24, 2023 @ 10:55 pm
The government is literally paying for the junk food. No one has a “right” to free food, and the only reason EBT covers junk is because the big snack corporations spend lots of money lobbying for this. Ironically, by claiming that no one should “police” what people eat, you’re parroting what Coca-Cola says when campaigning for more corporate welfare. Is that the corner you want to be in?
August 21, 2023 @ 12:23 pm
Good perspective.
I initially thought the fudge round line was a cheap shot (and maybe I still do a bit) but my experience is a little more sheltered compared to what you described.
August 21, 2023 @ 1:39 pm
It can be a statement of fact and be a shot at the “fat, lazy, and poor” at the same time.
All the junk food purchased with EBT cards in the nation is a drop in the bucket to the amount of money handed over to our Military Industrial Complex, our banking system, and corporate bailouts.
Plus how are you gonna bemoan the government wanting to have control and know everything you do, then talk about how some folks shouldn’t be buying fudge rounds?
It’s all just clichéd grievance politics.
August 21, 2023 @ 3:21 pm
Or the fat smelly folks who come in and buy junk food with their EBT’s then drop a $50 for lottery tickets. Then make you wait while they scratch them off.
August 21, 2023 @ 11:49 am
Still haven’t heard the song, but you can’t blame anyone for being suspicious. We’re long past “Charlie bit my finger” (the earliest internet viral phenom I can recall). Lots of people looking to manufacture a viral moment for various reasons.
You say the push by right wing pundits is “true.” That alone is cause for skepticism for me. From Jazz Jennings to Let’s Go Brandon, viral moments have been a speciality of the Trump-era right wing since the beginning. And they are pretty good at it.
I can easily see this being a real, but minor, viral blip that would have been quickly forgotten if it hadn’t been fed to the alt-right propaganda machine. That’s probably what took it to the next level, if we’re being honest about it. You don’t need all those other conspiracies to be skeptical about what’s really behind the song’s momentum.
The supposed rawness and realness of the song (again, I haven’t heard it yet) is probably partly what made it such a good candidate for propaganda. Jason Aldean is pretty lame, that type of stuff is on its way out, as you’ve documented so well on this blog. Perhaps they realized his song worked as red meat, but also made the message seem kind of stale and corporate, not rebellious and outside the mainstream, the way this crowd like to think of themselves.
This guy’s rawness is closer to the current zeitgeist. Or rather, the up and coming zeitgeist. Like I said, they’re pretty good at what they do. I’m pretty certain all those right wing pundits were following a manufactured strategy.
August 21, 2023 @ 12:36 pm
“I can easily see this being a real, but minor, viral blip that would have been quickly forgotten if it hadn’t been fed to the alt-right propaganda machine. That’s probably what took it to the next level, if we’re being honest about it. You don’t need all those other conspiracies to be skeptical about what’s really behind the song’s momentum.”
This is it in a nutshell.
August 21, 2023 @ 12:40 pm
: D You guys are killing me.
Grow the hell up.
August 22, 2023 @ 10:18 am
15 upvotes for a comment that makes no point whatsoever.
Sheep gonna go baaaa
August 24, 2023 @ 10:59 pm
How is Jazz Jennings or Let’s Go Brandon some sort of manufactured viral campaign? People were rightly horrified by Jazz’ story so they talked about it. The “Let’s Go Brandon” thing was funny so people talked about it. Grassroots things happen. Not everything is faked by some Correct-the-Record style astroturfing.
August 21, 2023 @ 11:49 am
“I sit pretty dead center down the aisle on politics, and always always have. Anyways, here’s a song about how all poors are abusing the system. Also, check out my Jews did 9/11 YouTube playlist.”
pretty much how every “I’m in the center…” statement goes.
August 21, 2023 @ 2:32 pm
They did do 9/11 tho. He also said obese poor people shouldn’t buy junk food on the taxpayers dime, why not make that a law?
August 21, 2023 @ 2:45 pm
We’re not veering into 9/11 talk or anything of the sort here. Any further comments on this subject will be deleted. Stay on topic.
August 21, 2023 @ 3:59 pm
Why are you leaving this shit up but threatening to censor anyone who calls them out?
August 21, 2023 @ 4:03 pm
Adam,
I’ve deleted half a dozen comments in this comments section. I left it up as an example of what I’m asking people NOT to broach in this comments section, and for a place to put my comment asking people to not leave such divisive, off-topic comments. Your constant bitching about how the comments are moderated is not helping anything. Now I’m going to be closing the comments section.
August 22, 2023 @ 10:46 am
can you believe another comment wondering aloud why trigger leaves up comments about ranking races, blaming races, blaming orientation, locked down another comment section (albeit briefly) and not the actual comments itself?
SHOCKED.
August 22, 2023 @ 12:39 pm
Hello Kyle,
You don’t owe anyone any explanation for why you leave a comment up. I personally wish you wouldn’t delete anything. And, it almost feels like you are very sensitive to the pressure these whiny vaginas put on you to delete everything. Please stop explaining yourself to them. They haven’t earned that level of respect from you.
August 22, 2023 @ 1:11 pm
If you really think all comments should stay up then you should be against him stopping the conversations and deleting my comments. So for at least that much, we’re in agreement.
August 21, 2023 @ 4:00 pm
No, they did not. There’s no evidence of that. The dancing Israelis meme is a lie.
August 24, 2023 @ 8:48 am
I also read a statement by him that he’s been offered $9M+ for a record deal after the song released but he turned it down.
If he’s truly a middle-class random guy, why would you turn down generational-changing money? If you’re producing and making music, why would you turn down deals that allow you to do that? Doesn’t add up to me
August 21, 2023 @ 12:19 pm
I’ve kept an open mind about this song, but this post confirms my suspicions. As a lefty, I like the song and wish him well. One poor turn of phrase, does not an evil person make. I really like Whiskey Myers, but Ballad of a Southern Man has a couple of lines that I can’t interpret any other way than as being racist. I still listen to them.
August 21, 2023 @ 12:28 pm
The song just isn’t good. The performance just isn’t good. I don’t even care what the lyrics are, but if the song was any good, I might actually care to try deciphering the lyrics. Not al that goes viral is worth a damn. In fact, I’d say most viral things suck, including viruses.
August 21, 2023 @ 12:38 pm
It makes me wonder what would’ve happened if 357 String band, cletus got shot or PPJ would’ve had Tik Tok back in the days.
August 21, 2023 @ 12:42 pm
“I’m not a good musician, I’m not a very good person.” I hope he improves in both areas.
August 21, 2023 @ 1:16 pm
I can imagine someone is planning a meeting with eg Greene/Bobert/Candance Owens. All he has to do is say something to make it stop. What a strange Hot 100 number 100. Does it have legs?
August 21, 2023 @ 1:29 pm
I don’t think the artist/song is a plant, but I do feel like it’s just a crappy remake of Wagon Wheel by some angry hillbilly. It’s an awful recording that we now have to hear in line at the Target.
August 22, 2023 @ 1:13 pm
Didn’t you hear? Apparently target is too woke up play this. They went woke and went broke or something.
August 21, 2023 @ 1:31 pm
That comment about the song resonating for its authenticity is just wrong, however.
The song deals in generalities and cliches, and none of its points are driven home by the sort of introspection or storytelling that would make it seem authentic. For example, he delivers nothing on the offhand references to starving people in the street or suicides, but he fleshes out the welfare milking with the fudge round line.
And even when he does flesh out his comments on welfare, it doesn’t jive with the main drive of the song. If you are really worried about impoverished people and the government wanting control, your main rhetorical flourish shouldn’t be complaining about who gets welfare and what they are choosing to eat.
This song resonates because people love songs about how much more they deserve for how hard they are working (and most of them don’t really) and the welfare queen grievances that are so rampant among conservative circles.
That and Oliver Anthony is a good and emotive singer.
I hope he finds a way to develop into the more nuanced and skilled songwriter that his vocal talents deserve, rather than chasing the political audience that is turning this song into a hit.
August 21, 2023 @ 2:52 pm
This made me think; I’d love to hear a song written from the perspective of the 5’3, 300 pounder. They’re motivations might be more than one suspected.
August 21, 2023 @ 2:54 pm
A lot of folks are taking for granted the idea that the whole world has been listening to Tyler Childers and Charles Wesley Godwin for the last six years. They haven’t been. For many, Oliver Anthony was the very first taste of a raw, acoustic, unproduced performance out in the woods from a rural hilljack singing his spleen off. They’re used to “country” being Luke Bryan and Florida Georgia Line. It smacked people across the face as something real in a manufactured world.
I agree that the writing has some concerns. But people continue to try and rationalize the reception for this song away and it’s to the detriment of their own arguments. Of course the authenticity was a significant part of why “Rich Men North of Richmond” resonated.
August 21, 2023 @ 3:07 pm
I think there is some truth to that.
However, I would also wager that the number of people who:
a) weren’t already familiar with that trend in country music
Or
b) introduced to him through some sort of online conservative media outlet
Is relatively small.
This simply isn’t a good enough or memorable song outside of the politics to be the song that wins millions of people over.
August 21, 2023 @ 1:45 pm
Just going to leave this here as the Onion once again hits closer to the truth than most real journalists:
https://www.theonion.com/conservatives-explain-why-they-love-rich-men-north-of-r-1850752276
August 22, 2023 @ 3:11 pm
that is some funny shit right there, i don’t care where you’re from!!
god i love the onion.
August 21, 2023 @ 1:52 pm
Why are the only bad rich people the ones who live north of a town that was the capital of a republic dedicated to the institution of slavery?
Seems to me the rich people south of Richmond have a lot more to answer for as far as most of humanity is concerned.
As far as I’m concerned, the title itself says all you need to know about this man’s politics.
August 23, 2023 @ 1:41 pm
That all may be true, but I think you’re missing the point. Actually two points.
First (and most obvious), “rich men” and “Richmond” are basically homophones and their juxtaposition in the chorus is a clever choice by Anthony and a useful trick for making the song catchy. He employs the same thing with “miners” and “minors,” though I’m embarrassed to admit I didn’t quite catch the meaning the first time around (why are there miners on an island and what are they digging for?).
Second, his real beef is with the politicians running the country from DC. Many of them live or maintain property in the sprawling suburbs of Washington, but that’s neither here nor there. In fact, Anthony is being somewhat literal because (if you’re familiar at all with Virginia geography) you don’t have to drive that far north on 95 out of Richmond to edge your way into the DC sprawl. Heck, it starts before you even hit Fredericksburg. For any Virginian living outside of Northern Virginia (NoVA), pretty much anything “north of Richmond” (the most recognizable landmark outside of DC, in Virginia) might as well be Washington.
But “rich men south-east of Winchester” just doesn’t have quite the same pizzazz.
August 21, 2023 @ 2:23 pm
We’re witnessing the commodification of authenticity. I wish artists would stop adopting an Appalachian image and singing in an unnatural accent. But I guess there’s always a bandwagon and no shortage of individuals willing to jump onto it for attention.
August 21, 2023 @ 2:30 pm
I’ve yet to understand how wanting peophiles prosecuted/held accountable from Epstein Island is a “Right Wing Conspiracy.” Anybody care to explain?
August 21, 2023 @ 2:39 pm
because the right wing conspirators only include the people they don’t like when they talk about accountability. trig himself has been explaining away all the ties donald trump’s ties as simple living nearby. i have yet to hear anyone on the left say that if bill clinton is guilty of this that he should not be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
August 21, 2023 @ 2:59 pm
I also mentioned Alan Dershowitz in connection with who literally wrote a book called “Get Trump” defending Trump. You and Interstate Daydeamer only read what you want to read and throw away the rest.
August 21, 2023 @ 3:28 pm
I’ve never understood how that man still gets so many TV gigs to this day. On fox to boot.
August 21, 2023 @ 3:29 pm
You just ignored everything thegentile just wrote. He said you ignored Trump’s connections (which you did), and you replied about a different person lol. Talk about reading what you want to read.
August 21, 2023 @ 3:37 pm
the same alan dershowitz that also has ties to epstein? wonder why he would defend trump…
August 22, 2023 @ 1:09 pm
Thanks for the shout-out, Kyle. Nice to know I’m appreciated, even if what you say is utter bullshit.
August 26, 2023 @ 4:19 pm
Hahaha, as if Bubba will ever be prosecuted. Plus, the left is working hard to normalize pedophilia, so I think Bill is safe with you Remind me who was that again in that painting in the blue dress?
August 21, 2023 @ 2:49 pm
I thought the insinuation was that people in Washington were too busy trying to have sex with minors to worry about miners.
August 21, 2023 @ 3:16 pm
This song has kind of run its course for me. Sure, I like it, but I could use a break from hearing it and all the hype. However, if, like me, you’re entertained by watching the copious (pun intended) amount of whining about it, it’s the gift that just keeps on giving. An update on the list Honky started:
1. He’s an industry plant!
2. He’s from the Piedmont; not Appalachia!
3. He’s not a real poet! 3. He’s a rich landowner who hates poor people!
4. He’s being pushed by QAnon!
5. He’s singing against the government, but I’ll bet he LOVES corporations!
6. He’s a little too overweight to be criticizing fat people, don’t you think!?
7. He’s criticizing welfare, but nobody gets more welfare than red states!
8. He’s not a good musician!
9. He hasn’t paid his dues like Tyler!
10. I’ve never even heard of fudge rounds!
11. He’s mad that Jefferson Davis isn’t President!
12. There are racist undertones!
13. His politics are down the middle so he must be an anti-Semite!
14. He played at a golf course!
15. All of his songs seem to be about him! He’s not a storyteller!
16. He admitted that he sold his soul…nothing can convince me!
August 21, 2023 @ 3:18 pm
Those of you who think that there isn’t widespread food stamp abuse should visit some of these small towns. People standing in line to swipe their card and load up on Red Bull so they can wake up the next day to NOT go to work. But yea, Red Bull is a basic necessity of life.
August 21, 2023 @ 3:39 pm
I finally listened today although I usually ignore anything that goes “viral”. I couldn’t even get through to the end of the song. Not a fan of the song or the message.
August 21, 2023 @ 4:05 pm
Comments section is being temporarily closed due to the excessive amount of inappropriate and off-topic comments, and to give folks an opportunity to cool off. Once again, I request folks to stay on topic, and to not leave inappropriate comments so we can leave these comments sections open for important discussion on these matters.
August 22, 2023 @ 11:25 am
All you’re doing is protecting antisemites and giving them a soapbox to spread their hatred. There’s still at least half a dozen 9/11 conspiracy comments up. Your moderation priorities are fucked.
August 22, 2023 @ 11:31 am
Adam S,
If all that happens here is this comments section fills up with people complaining about the comments section, I’m going to shut it down once again. As I explained, I have already DELETED numerous comments in this comments section. If you see something you believe is problematic, challenge it. You incessant bitching about the comment moderation and wanting me to delete anything you disagree with is only going to result in less opportunities for EVERYONE to voice their opinions. Stop it.
August 22, 2023 @ 12:12 pm
Can’t believe I’m actually saying this… but due to your constant crusade against the comments section, you, along with thegentile and Interstate Daydreamer, are making me miss “Countryfan 68”. At least he/she weighed in on the music itself, rather than constantly looking for the next political firestorm.
August 22, 2023 @ 12:39 pm
Would you rather have me talk about 9/11 conspiracies? I enjoy talking about the music, and do. I’d much rather see the comments be about the music, which is why I respond to comments ranking the races of women, or claiming the Jews did 9/11.
August 22, 2023 @ 10:48 am
I admire the passion in his singing. But as for a country song, well, he has more in common with folk singers like Woody Guthrie and Pete Seeger than Johnny Cash in my view. That said, although the chorus in the song Richmen North of Richmond is there, the song misses a third verse and there are cheap shots in the second verse. He should have worked the song a bit before recording as those lapses has it fall short of being a great one. Still, as an indie artist, I envy his success, but he got a lot of free airplay on Fox to blow it up due to culture wars.
August 22, 2023 @ 11:17 am
I think it’s telling when Ward Davis posts on his FB that Mr. Anthony “just schooled an entire industry on how it’s done. Greatness. Absolute greatness.” That kind of support from a respected artist like Ward speaks volumes. And his next post about Jinks cheating on him with some guy named Eric who he met at a Sunglass Hut made me laugh my ass off.
August 22, 2023 @ 11:23 am
The biggest problem with the song is that it doesn’t even know what it wants to be. The chorus wants to blame “rich men north of Richmond” while the verses are focused on blaming other poor people. In short, it seems the narrator is intent on blaming anyone besides himself.
But, as I mentioned in an earlier comment, the whole poor people blaming other poor people schtick is really getting old.
August 22, 2023 @ 12:07 pm
This slanted view is because youre a communist. I’ll try to explain but I feel like I’m wasting my time. The men being worked to death to pay taxes to a government that keeps kicking them down are not allies of obese people milking welfare. They are enemies and always will be. This is exactly why your marxist dream will never succeed in America and has failed everywhere else its been tried. Those that work are not the friends of those that dont. And as a blue collar worker myself its is extremely annoying when I go to a grocery store and see a fat lady loading up a cart then paying with a SNAP card. The idea that we’re all in this together is a joke. They’re disgusting behavior is enabled by the rich men north of richmond cause they want those sweet sweet welfare votes. Meanwhile they and people like you will continue to mock and disparage blue collar men every chance you get.
August 22, 2023 @ 12:29 pm
I stopped reading after you called me a “communist” because that’s a bullshit cop-out meant to avoid addressing what I actually said.
Try again, asshole.
August 22, 2023 @ 12:35 pm
“communist” is the new/old “Nazi”. These losers just throw the term around, without actually knowing what it means.
August 22, 2023 @ 12:33 pm
You don’t even know what communism means. Also, the states with the most welfare are all south of Richmond.
The poor and unemployed aren’t your enemy, the gas companies making record profits last year are.
August 22, 2023 @ 1:34 pm
The gas companies are not my enemy at all. I love their products. I happily give them my money for everything from diesel for my tractor to gas for my wifes car. Trying to explain voluntary monetary transactions vs mandatory taxes to the communist is a waste of my time though.
August 22, 2023 @ 1:38 pm
needing gas is voluntary? lol
August 22, 2023 @ 1:38 pm
I’m glad you aren’t one of those complaining about the price of gas, then.
Insinuating I’m a Communist just shows you have no idea what the word means.
Tractor, huh? Beneficiary of the farm bill? Probably the closest thing to Communist legislation in America.
August 22, 2023 @ 1:08 pm
I believe you’re correct BDE. I also believe you’d be wasting your time trying to explain it to them. I’m not as well read on it as others here are, but it seems to me that one of the gears necessary to make communism work, is a loyal bloc of the population who doesn’t really doesn’t understand exactly what they’re loyal to, but help advance the high-level agenda, by being faithful to the low-level causes.
It would be like if you had a group of people who advanced Christianity by being faithful to Christianity’s causes, but without calling themselves Christians.
Am I on the right track?
August 22, 2023 @ 1:20 pm
Actually Joey, you’re on the wrong track. You have a MASSIVE population which love to call themselves Christians without actually following any of Christianity’s teachings.
August 22, 2023 @ 4:17 pm
I wasn’t asking you. You’re too dumb to know you’re ignorant.
August 22, 2023 @ 6:51 pm
You’re too dumb to know you’re ignorant AND too ignorant to know you’re dumb, so…
August 22, 2023 @ 7:07 pm
Sure but people who scam and scheme the system to enrich themselves at other’s expense is not even remotely limited to poor welfare recipients. Our upper class is littered with folks who only ever worked hard at scheming for their next tax exemption or interest-free loan.
Anthony calls this song “Rich Men North of Richmond” and you would think he could describe one of the innumerable ways politicians and corporate officials get wealthy off of those who work.
Anthony: I’m working all day for bullshit pay. Men are killing themselves because they can’t get ahead.
Me, listening: Okay, yeah, I’m listening. Let’s build on that.
Anthony: How dare I pay for that fat woman’s fudge round!
Me, eyerolling: Maybe next time.
August 23, 2023 @ 12:43 pm
BKPotts…Your post said: Anthony: How dare I pay for that fat woman’s fudge round!
The actual lyric is: Well, God, if you’re 5-foot-3 and you’re 300 pounds / Taxes ought not to pay for your bags of fudge rounds.
I see no male or female reference in that line… Other posters have made this same assumption. I’ve also seen “welfare queen.”
You can dislike this song…that’s fine. You can dislike this song because your tribe tells you to dislike this song…that’s fine too. But at least post the correct lyrics…
August 23, 2023 @ 1:00 pm
1) I don’t have a tribe.
2) The gender of the person eating the fudge rounds isn’t relevant. Substitute “fat man’s” for “fat woman’s” and the point is the same.
3) However, 5’3 is average height for a woman, but like one in 500 men are that short. Clearly when you say the person is 5’3″, the implication is that it’s a woman.
August 22, 2023 @ 11:49 am
“It just has to be fake/astroturf/deliberate scam job” because if it is not then I must admit (or confront the fact) that the song authentically speaks from and to a large populace of Americans pissed off about the vice they’ve been put in between global competition and their own beggar-neighbors who aren’t keeping up. That the message is packaged in an ear-wormy, authentic roots-country jam evokes ever more emotional resistance to keep from hearing what a lot of American is feeling and saying. It is a fact the dollar ain’t worth shit. It is a fact that an American laborer is competiting more now with labor who is paid less overseas. It is a fact that the US government is 30 Trillion in debt and there’s no end in sight to the entitlements or the obligations of many to pay them by the dudes/gals busting hump. Among many other attributes this song draws out the denialism by the denialists. Probably something else the poignant Mr. Anthony was going for.
August 22, 2023 @ 12:52 pm
I have no doubt this guy is real. I also have no doubt that he’s become so popular, because he’s saying the quite part out loud. I’m personally bored with the “Appalachian sound” so I’m not all that interested in where he ends up. I just know one thing for sure, he has as much right to his protest song as anyone on the left does. I see a lot of people getting their panties in a twist, because they know what the popularity of this song really means. The pendulum is swinging back. All of the hot button social issues concerning gender ideology, sexual orientation, critical race theory and immigration have people wondering how things got so dramatically flipped upside down in such a short amount of time. This guy has inadvertently become the voice of their confusion and frustration.
August 22, 2023 @ 1:45 pm
My grandfather Perin Kagourtine was on welfare and food stamps for much of his life, as he was a “larger than life man” (literally, not figuratively), who was born in 1925, and would rather “sit around on his ass” and watch television than actually work. He would spend his welfare checks on alcohol and his food stamps on Oreo cookies, sugary cereal, Wendy’s Big Macs and quarter pounders, and other garbage like “two-fours” of Pepsi, cookies and cream “porridge”, frozen pizzas, cigarettes, jelly beans, and jars of sugar that he would eat off the SPOON, and “scratch off” tickets. NONE of which he shared with his four grandchildren (including myself). Obviously he was a staunch left-wing democrat.
Needlessly to say, I have a ZERO issue with Mr. Anthony putting down the “welfare bums” of the United States.
August 24, 2023 @ 5:57 pm
there’s also plenty of right-wing nazis on welfare too like that crazy c u next tuesday Boebert, so suck on that loser.
August 22, 2023 @ 2:06 pm
I don’t believe this is a top tier working man country song either lyrically or sonically. However, something has to be said for the connection so many have with it. Judging whether they are right or wrong with this connection is not of my concern. It appears many of our fellow human beings have concerns that need to be addressed, and disparaging the connection, Oliver, their song, or their concerns doesn’t seem helpful. Hopefully, we can use this moment in our country’s history to become more united, but I’m not holding my breath based on the comments on this website.
August 22, 2023 @ 7:10 pm
Yes. And according to this song what needs to be addressed are pedophiles and food stamp abusers.
Truly timeless and memorable stuff.
August 22, 2023 @ 3:26 pm
i miss the good ole’ days, you know, them long ago times, when we was complainin’ about…jason aldean.
i wonder if he loves this crappy song because it takes the pressure off, or he hates it because it turned the spotlight off?
August 22, 2023 @ 3:44 pm
I love his work, love all this, and think it’s all great. Keep going, Oliver Anthony!
August 22, 2023 @ 4:11 pm
I’m trippin out at all you supposed health and environmentally conscious folks losing your squat over someone addressing unhealthy lifestyles and the obesity epidemic. You’re all such a bunch of phony virtue signalers. Everything about you is fake. You don’t even have original ideas you just blow wherever your bots and algorithms direct you and you are incapable of free organic thought.
August 22, 2023 @ 5:08 pm
Hi Sterz…..did you get a bumblebee stuck in your Crocs? So young to be so bitter !..
August 23, 2023 @ 12:16 am
i don’t really have an idea about the song but it’s stuck in my head! And i’m not even american!! Maybe that’s good songwriting…
August 23, 2023 @ 12:19 am
…true or false? the title of oliver anthony’s album will be: “the world is a fudge round”
August 23, 2023 @ 2:39 am
There is definetely something about the US context in this song, which I don’t get completely.
And there is a few particular lines about abese people, that I find problematic and lack a deeper analysis of why most people become obese in the first place.
But I actually really like this song. And I find that its overall message is something the left in the US should claim as its own. Its hard to understand why the left has somehow has forgotten the ideas and thoughts of working class people and working class problems. To me (besides kicking down on obese people) this song builds heavy on the tradition from Woody Guthrie and others, who fought the system and who’s driver was the social injustice from a unequal society.
Leaving that field to be occupied solely by ‘right wing conservatives’ does not do any good for either progress, liberal ideas or working americans (and working people anywhere)
August 24, 2023 @ 5:58 pm
Uh no the left has not “forgotten” a goddamn thing, plenty of minorities are the “working class” but of course many country fans assume only white folks do physical labor and whatnot cause of their own ignorance.
August 25, 2023 @ 3:18 pm
Just like you assume that “country fans assume only white folks do physical labor and whatnot” cause of your own ignorance.
August 25, 2023 @ 6:12 pm
oh that’s not an assumption i’ve seen plenty of idiot Aldean fanboys saying exactly that, how many times have whypipo claimed that all black folks were “lazy and on welfare” despite them actually making up a much bigger percentage of physical labor then white folks.
August 25, 2023 @ 7:27 pm
“whypipo” Says it all right there.
August 25, 2023 @ 10:14 pm
yes it says you’re full of crap
August 25, 2023 @ 10:22 pm
No more comments on this thread.
August 23, 2023 @ 10:30 am
I don’t know what this kid’s thinking. Protest songs about rich men and too-powerful corporate interests and the man down at the bank should be left to the truly oppressed, like Bruce Springsteen.
August 23, 2023 @ 1:38 pm
He dropped a good new song full of internal rhyme and anguish:
https://youtu.be/xB9n0XA8dks?si=Pcy-0ii3ceEobElS
The comments make the water clear.
August 23, 2023 @ 4:17 pm
You’re famous Trigger…https://www.foxnews.com/media/nothing-inauthentic-about-success-oliver-anthonys-rich-men-north-richmond-country-music-writer-says
August 23, 2023 @ 9:55 pm
You’re article missed the whole point of why this song bad for the working class, I am sure this Oliver is a nice guy, and he sounds like a decent musician. But facts are facts, pull up the lyrics yourself, the song kicks down on the working class BOTTOM LINE. There are only two class, the ruling class and the working class PERIOD FULL STOP. Kicking down on overweight people on welfare is the oldest tactic in the book, it’s the sham welfare queen scheme Reagan loved so much. U.S. citizens receive less for their tax dollars than almost any other country on the planet, including some developing nations. Of all developed nations, we have the lowest pay and work the most hours, worst benefits, lowest amount of vacations days, and lowest amount of union representation. Whether Oliver was a plant, or paid to play this song or whatever, doesn’t change the FACT the song is being championed by all the people that support the party that continually kicks down on the working class and wants you to believe that the mere pennies some people receive govt. assistance doesn’t pale in comparison to the billions corporations rake in every day, from our tax dollars. Go ahead and do the math…if you made 50k last year, appx $81.50 of your taxes went to safety net govt. programs, what some call “govt. handouts. BUT…Appx $4,255 went to corporate subsidies, corporate bailouts and TIF programs/tax incentives AKA CORPORATE WELFARE!! This guy explains it much better…
https://youtu.be/laeA_3qEXKk?si=5hPIU4l4lAWYL9Li
August 24, 2023 @ 12:38 am
One must also consider the fact that had Anthony released the same song four years ago when a different president was in office, the same rightwing provocateurs mostly responsible for its current meteoric rise up the charts would have ignored it, at best. At worst, they would’ve criticized it for being “un-American” and would’ve branded Anthony as unpatriotic.
In the music biz, as elsewhere, timing is everything.
August 24, 2023 @ 5:47 pm
Yeah i’m side-eyeing any article that unironically quotes that bigoted nazi Matt Walsh.
August 24, 2023 @ 6:18 pm
This comment is off every track I’ve seen here, and it shows my age, and it’s not especially relevant, but I couldn’t help thinking, well Anthony Oliver’s heart-felt protest song doesn’t measure anywhere within a thousand miles of the heart-felt protest songs by another young singer, Bob Dylan. Thinking of, for example, North Country Blues, or Only a Pawn in Their Game, or Masters of War.
August 25, 2023 @ 8:55 am
Anthony released a new video today discussing his reaction to what has happened since RMNOR released, as well as criticisms levied against him. Well worth watching.
https://youtu.be/cv9uMXiY29s?si=wTPTSPM0d5R8wB_K
August 25, 2023 @ 3:15 pm
I don’t know if he is a “plant” or not, but… has anyone ever listened to the lyrics of rock songs or country songs? There a a lot of songs where these multimillion dollar artists are singing about “the rich man” as if they are anything but. Look at the lyrics for Poison’s “Something to Believe In,” for example.
I drive by the homeless sleepin’ on a cold dark street
Like bodies in an open grave
Underneath the broken old neon sign
That used to read “Jesus Saves”
A mile away live the rich folk
And I see how they’re living it up
While the poor, they eat from hand to mouth
The rich drinkin’ from a golden cup
And it just makes me wonder
Why so many lose and so few win, hah
August 25, 2023 @ 6:13 pm
Poison weren’t rich at the time, lots of rock bands got screwed over by label execs making hundreds of million dollars a year. Nothing wrong with that song at all troll.
August 25, 2023 @ 7:22 pm
umm… that is one of my favorite songs. Nobody SAID anything was wrong with it.
And “Posion wasn’t rich at the time”? Really? Because Poison came up in 1983. This song is from their third album in 1990. They weren’t rich? OK. Whatever. But I’m sure you know way more than I do, so… and you call ME the troll. I think I can see your warts from here.
August 25, 2023 @ 10:13 pm
no they weren’t compared to the record execs look it up, also LOL at you thinking the word troll is literal, you’re even dumber then I thought.
August 25, 2023 @ 10:16 pm
why complain about a band singing about poor people then? it makes no sense troll
August 25, 2023 @ 10:20 pm
This is a tangent. No more comments on this tread.
August 25, 2023 @ 8:31 pm
Country-folk singer-songwriter Oliver Anthony, who wrote the Billboard number one hit song used in the opening of Wednesday night’s first GOP 2024 presidential debate on Fox News is mocking the Republican candidates on stage for embracing it, revealing for the first time the song is “definitely” written about them.
Declaring that “what makes us strong is our diversity,” Anthony says, “it was funny seeing it at the presidential debate, ’cause it’s like, I wrote that song about those people, you know,” he said with a chuckle.
“So for them to have to sit there and listen to that, that cracks me up,” Anthony added, laughing a bit more. “But it was funny kind of seeing the response to it, like that song has nothing to do with Joe Biden, you know, it’s a lot bigger than Joe Biden. That song’s written about the people on that stage and a lot more too, not just them, but definitely them.”
August 30, 2023 @ 9:39 am
Let’s see if this gets black-holed or makes it through:
https://voxday.net/2023/08/22/fake-man-south-of-richmond/
August 30, 2023 @ 3:01 pm
The fact that you think that a link to a site called “voxday.net” of two dudes providing no evidence, not even educated suppositions, but just arrogant potifications that Oliver Anthony MUST be fake is further proof that he’s not. This game was called a week ago.
September 22, 2023 @ 11:45 am
Comparing tbis guy to true talents like Sturgill and Tyler are what is irritating music fans. He isnt even on the same planet as them. To his credit, he admitted he doesnt have a good singing voice. And he doesnt. But i dont think he really even knows how to play guitar. If there is any video where he is actually doing more than plucking one chord, i am willing to give it a look. To me, he is just the mou tain version of that Gangnum Style singer from years back. That dude was a sensation gor a minute too
September 13, 2024 @ 7:03 am
My brothers told me that he is quite pompous and not the humble man he claims. Apparently his autographs are worth more than peoples sweat. I separate the artist from the music on this one. Good tunes.