AEG / Live Nation Now Coming for Music’s Mid-Sized Independent Venues

In 2017, a small company called Beaty Capital Group had an ambitious idea. In order to save some of the historic Masonic halls throughout the Midwest, they would begin buying these properties up, restoring them, and making them into live music venues. The concept took shape under the company name Temple Live.
Their first purchase was of a temple in Fort Smith, Arkansas originally built in 1928, and added to the National Registry of Historic Places in 1992. With an 1,100-capacity auditorium, it was the perfect mid-sized venue for the Arkansas town that needed one, and would make sure the historic building would not be subject to the wrecking ball.
Subsequently, similar historic Masonic temples were purchased in Cleveland, Ohio, Columbus, Ohio, Wichita, Kansas, and Peoria, Illinois. The Masonic Lodge in Columbus called The Athenaeum was built in 1899. The Masonic Auditorium on Euclid Ave. in Cleveland was originally purchased by Temple Live for $725,000, and they subsequently spent some $14 million renovating it, speaking to the commitment the company put into the project.

Over time, these concert venues became beloved and vital to both touring acts coming to town who might not stop if it weren’t for these mid-sized venues, and by locals who previously would complain how these acts would never stop in their town. But all that fell apart starting in early September when Temple Live venues shuttered with little notice, leaving bands scheduled to play in a lurch, and the future of these historic buildings uncertain.
“We determined it was best to be definitive so the decision was made to pull down the remaining shows,” said Lance Beaty, CEO of Beaty Capital Group. He blamed multiple factors for the company’s struggles, including lingering issues from the COVID-19 pandemic, and ticketing systems that disfavor independent promoters.
“We are simply an outsider in an insider’s business. No matter how much money you throw at it or how creative you think you are, if you’re not on the inside, you’re not in.”
This is the story many independent venue owners and promoters are telling all across the United States, and it’s about to get much worse. As Saving Country Music chronicled in August, important independent venues are shutting down left and right, from the Crystal Palace in Bakersfield, California, to Duke’s in Indianapolis, to the Coupland Dancehall in Texas (update pending).
Meanwhile, one of the catalysts for the catastrophic implosion in mid-sized independent venue ownership in the United States is about to make matters much worse. Live Nation has decided they’re investing some $1 billion in small clubs, mid-sized venues, and larger venues in 18 mid-sized markets across the United States. This means the company that already dominates much of live touring and venue booking in major cities is coming for other markets as well.
Some of the markets Live Nation says they’re coming to are:
Allentown, PA – Atlanta, GA – Birmingham, AL – Denver, CO – Indianapolis, IN – Memphis, TN – Milwaukee, WI – Nashville, TN – Orlando, FL – Portland, ME – Portland, OR – Pittsburgh, PA – Raleigh, NC – Richmond, VA – Riverside, MO – Seattle, WA – Shakopee, MN – Virginia Beach, VA
And LiveNation is not alone. America’s second-largest concert promoter, AEG, is enacting a similar strategy to corner the mid-sized market. This includes Nashville’s newest venue The Pinnacle (4,500 capacity), Atlanta’s The Eastern (2,300 capacity), Boston’s Roadrunner (3,500 capacity), Brooklyn’s Brooklyn Steel (1,800 capacity), and Denver’s Mission Ballroom (4,000 capacity).
Just this week, AEG revealed the architectural renderings, and broke ground for the new 4,000-capacity indoor entertainment venue they have planned for Austin, TX opening in early 2027 on Riverside Drive east of downtown, near where the rock venue Emo’s relocated.

“This new venue is designed to complement the mix of legendary and iconic venues that already exist in Austin,” vice president of AEG Presents Southwest Robin Phillips said. “We’re not here to compete with Austin’s music legacy. We’re here to honor it, and in doing so, create a stage for even more voices, more stories, and more sound.”
But the question for many of Austin’s small to mid-sized venues is if this will truly be the case. There are already concerns over so many venues competing for the same amount of consumer dollars in Austin, and contraction in music venues, including legendary ones serving music communities that often become a diaspora when the venue shuts down. Meanwhile these Live Nation and AEG-owned venues continue to try and increase ticket prices to the point where live music is quickly becoming a luxury item unattainable by average fans.
Live Nation CEO recently sparked off a firestorm by saying at CNBC’s Game Plan conference in Los Angeles, “Music has been underappreciated. In sports, I joke it’s like a badge of honor to spend 70 grand for a Knicks courtside [seat]. They beat me up if we charge $800 for Beyoncé. We have a lot of runway left. So when you read about ticket prices going up, the average concert price is still $72. Try going to a Lakers game for that, and there’s 80 of them. The concert is underpriced and has been for a long time.”
And it’s not just the venue ownership and the ticket prices that these large companies are using to control the market. It’s the ticketing companies themselves, facilitated in part by the Live Nation/Ticketmaster monopoly. Ticketing is one way to squeeze out independent and regional competitors. Lance Beaty of Temple Live specifically cites the inability for independent promoters to access big ticketing systems as one of the reasons they were forced to shut down.
As new mid-sized venues controlled by big live music corporations are erected, historic ones operated by independent companies are shutting down. And it’s often these more independent venues who are willing to give more opportunities to local performers, to attempt to keep prices more affordable for their communities, and to give back to the communities where they’re located because they’re operated by people who live there.
Music was already facing challenges with the gulf between the have’s and the have not’s putting pressure the musical middle class. Now the small and mid-sized venues, markets, and artists that do exist are being targeted by the biggest music promotion companies in music to bring them under their sphere of influence as well.
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October 1, 2025 @ 9:53 am
Went to see Silverada in Louisville at the Mercury Ballroom. Really nice venue! Was surprised when I found it was a Live Nation joint, until I went to buy a drink. Boy howdy! Priced just like their amphitheaters. Way too expensive for a small venue
October 1, 2025 @ 9:57 am
I live just across the river and have been to a number of shows there. Last time I went back in February for Shane Smith, I think it was $14 for a beer
October 1, 2025 @ 10:19 am
sad. going to Dukes Indy 2 more times before they close, wish I could afford to buy it and keep it going, even if I broke even at the end of each year, I would buy it if I could afford to do that. So sad to hear more news of smaller venues being taken over and the smallest ones closing.
October 2, 2025 @ 9:01 am
Hands down the best venue in the city. I’ll be going back a few more time as well. With tickets being $15-20 and a bucket of Lonestar for the same price as a single drink at the larger venues it offered unmatched value. And you’re only a few feet from the performers and had a chance to mingle with them afterwards. It’ll be sorely missed.
October 1, 2025 @ 10:38 am
I’ve never really thought much about the promoter side of things. What’s the real ‘in’ there? Is it that corporate promoters/live nation have agreements with the big booking agencies, or that big booking agencies just avoid independents altogether?
On Lance Beaty’s quote, what do independent promoters actually miss out on that the big corporate ones get? Why will live nation ultimately win if they start buying small clubs? My immediate thought is that it has to be because of agreements with major booking agencies that independent don’t have, no? Genuinely curious, not ranting.
October 1, 2025 @ 11:33 am
yeah there’s agreements that can happen more with a bigger agency/promoter like if a promoter owns x amount of venues across the U.S. they can guarantee an artist can play all of those for x amount and whatever. Your artist then doesn’t have to worry as much about trying to get booked at different independents and know they have like 10 dates lined up through different venues that place owns.
October 1, 2025 @ 4:13 pm
From my experience and perspective, it has to do more with competition for the highest quality acts at each level and how the industry is set up in a way that incentives better acts going to more LN/AEG venues. If my venue is bidding for an artist and I make a fair offer that nets us say ~25% of the face value of the ticket, and since we’re both the venue and the promoter we also collect the food and drink sales for the night which hopefully nets around 10% of that revenue. When we’re bidding against LN specifically they can offer a deal where they only net 20% of the face value of tickets because they make all of the ticket fee revenue, sometimes they make a manager % if it’s one of the artists they represent, they also make the food and drink but at a 15-20% margin because they charge 30% more than we do, oh and if you buy a liquid death canned water for $12 they also make a % of the wholesale price of that because they own a stake in (and it’s the exclusive water available easily in their venues).
Essentially it ruins all ‘fair’ competition for acts in a market because they collect a % at every stage of the industry. Once they dominate that market they squeeze all the margins because their are no other options left and artists, employees, and fans all wind up with a lower quality experience, less share of the money spent by fans goes to artists and more go to stock holders who are happy to commoditize art.
Booking agents who represent artists have a duty to get the most for their clients so at first they jump the for extra few points on the deal or more up front money, but then before long there’s no bidding against the LN offers and with no competition then artists potential revenue declines.
Literally everything in the live event industry comes down to single digit % one way or the other and when there’s no competition to keep prices down and artists fees up, those points go to the billion dollar business because you have no choice.
Independent venues are run by musicians and people who love events and their communities. LN & AEG are run by people who have to turn as much profit as they can.
October 1, 2025 @ 4:57 pm
Few good comments here under but I will also add that there is radius clauses for artists. Depending the size of artist it can be for a longer period of time as well as farther away. The big ones may be six months and 250 miles away. They’re buying up festivals that used to be independent and getting it for 51% of ownership. Every single part of live music is affected over time.
October 1, 2025 @ 10:45 am
“The concert is underpriced and has been for a long time.”
Someone should do something about this guy
October 1, 2025 @ 11:03 am
If we had functioning antitrust laws that would be how to solve it.
Sadly, our politics have been bought by Corporate America so even light slaps on the wrists (see Lina Khan FTC-era) are treated as an affront to popular society.
Live Nation’s entire intent here is to create a monopoly – or close to it – when they will then turn up the dial on anti-consumer practices even further.
October 2, 2025 @ 6:18 am
That’s a ‘let them eat cake’ moment if there’s ever been one. It’s 100% time to eat the rich.
October 2, 2025 @ 7:18 am
Yeah, the French Revolution worked out great for the common folk. After the radicals eradicated the nobles, they started executing the peasants for political and religious differences or complaining about the price of bread. Then Europe plunged into massive warfare until 1815 which killed more people than the ancient regimes ever did.
October 1, 2025 @ 10:56 am
I already see the signs that the music festival market is way oversaturated. There are only so many people who can financially support all these events, and the escalating prices are gonna curtail much of that. I’ve made the observation here before that in the 70s and 80s concerts were the entertainment of the blue collar working people. Back then 10 bucks or less got you into anything. Nowadays 10 bucks won’t even pay for parking, or a beer for that matter. How many shows can the average fan afford a year anymore? I predict it will all result in market crash, with more venues shuttering.
October 1, 2025 @ 2:50 pm
I have gone from 10-12 concerts a year in the 2010’s to 3-4 for the last several years and price is the only factor.
October 2, 2025 @ 7:28 am
The market will reset itself.
As long as the government stays out of it. Which it won’t.
Crony capitalism is why people think socialism is the answer. It is not.
October 2, 2025 @ 11:36 am
I’ll just add that I do think there is a role for government here:
Anti-trust.
We are seeing this in big tech. If there was no threat of anti-trust, Google and Apple would make mobile operating systems even more restricted and locked down for users than they currently already are.
If you want competitors to be able to actually compete, you need to essentially “reset” the playing field and THEN allow capitalism to flourish.
October 2, 2025 @ 1:41 pm
That sounds great until you have the government pressuring Big Tech to censor opposing opinions, as has recently been proved.
I would rather the government stay out of it entirely.
October 2, 2025 @ 2:42 pm
Anti-trust is pro-competition, which is true to the intended spirit of capitalism.
October 2, 2025 @ 2:43 pm
Sure – I’m as far against government encroaching on free speech as anyone. Which is why I think Brendan Carr is so dangerous and how it was dangerous before him the jawboning going on in the previous admin.
But I don’t think that really solves the “big tech dilemma”, does it? Consumers already have free choice to use whatever browser or search engine they choose, yet Google remains the top choice in both categories. Is that because Chrome and Google Search are so great? Or is it Google pays $$$$$$$$ to Apple, Samsung, etc. to be the default, knowing full well most people won’t stray from the default?
I use DuckDuckGo and Brave Search, both of which are superior products to Google in everything other than Restaurant reviews, but the fact is Government HAS stayed out of the way while Google and Apple have gotten so big there are literally no alternatives on mobile in terms of operating systems – a big chunk of that being Google pays Samsung and others to literally avoid forking their own version of Android.
I get it is cool and fun to say “get government out of everything”, but there are some things (like breaking up monopolies or duopolies) where Government has a legit role and purpose.
LiveNation is trying to soak up as much of the market as they can so they literally won’t have competition. “Free Markets” alone ain’t gonna solve that if LiveNation keeps swallowing up venue after venue after venue.
October 2, 2025 @ 3:03 pm
Carr is a boogeyman. He did nothing compared to the Biden Administration’s actions with Facebook and YouTube.
October 1, 2025 @ 12:10 pm
What’s the counterargument to live nation CEO’s basketball analogy? I don’t like it at all but also don’t see the hole in his argument but i’m also an idiot
Jeremy pinnell rips
October 1, 2025 @ 12:28 pm
Interesting question. I guess I see this as an invalid comparison to begin with. A concert is a preordained outcome – other than the exact setlist, you essentially know what’s going to happen. Sportsball involves competition and either team could win, possibly increasing the entertainment value. Also, sports has a local factor to it, such as buying season tickets, that entertainers on Beyoncé’s level have moved way past. And maybe there are more rabid sports fans willing to pay up then there are rabid music fans with expendable cash.
October 1, 2025 @ 12:36 pm
It is a bad analogy in the sense that if you want to watch the best of the best play pro basketball – the only option is the NBA. Music has a much, much, much broader definition of “the best”.
I would also note that a lot of this talk is “short term gain” thinking with no eye towards the long-term health of the product.
See pro sports as a prime example of this. Increasingly low-and-middle income families are being priced out the the NBA, NHL, NFL, MLB, etc. This doesn’t hurt the leagues right now, but 20 years from now will they potentially miss out on a fan because some kid in a poor part of Georgia couldn’t afford to go to a Braves games?
All these companies just think quarter-to-quarter now. There is no “what are the long-term ramifications” thinking of business decisions. Mostly because we have allowed companies to become “too big to fail” and then the government (via taxpayers) steps in to bail them out.
October 1, 2025 @ 2:10 pm
I sat first row at a AAA Baseball game for $35 a few weeks ago. Get in price is maybe $10. Had a great time. If you want sports, you don’t have to sit courtside at Madison Square.
I love most of the bands that get covered on this site, but I think it’s fair to say a lot of them aren’t “Major League.”
If Live Nation is killing off the independent venues, they’re not only pricing out future fans, they’re also robbing the up and coming musicians of the places to hone their craft.
Maybe Beyonce/Swift/Springsteen can command top dollar, but to paint the whole system as those folks is disingenuous.
October 1, 2025 @ 2:29 pm
Exactly. Many years ago, baseball saw the value in making a farm system so that it could develop talent, and the best players all around the United States could rise to the top and become the next MLB stars. Music is supposed to be like that too, with local venues, festivals, and radio stations playing an important role in that. But now with corporate consolidation and the nationalization of playlists, it’s now difficult to impossible to develop that talent on the local level. Add TikTok virality into the picture where folks who’ve never played a show before are getting booked on arena tours to start, and you have one of the answers as to why talent is so bereft at the top of popular music.
October 1, 2025 @ 6:11 pm
And in 2020, MLB comandeered and took over the Minor League system when nobody was watching. They also eliminated teams forever that had been very successful. Lowell, MA (the Spinners) sold out most games for years and their franchise was ended by MLB. The Red Sox said they ‘d be back in two years…its now been 5!
Its like Live Nation. They only care about the Almighty Dollar, not the artists or smaller venues. Thank goodness there are still great privately owned smaller venues like Stone Mountain Arts Center in Brownfield, Maine (seats 200) where artist LOVE to play….just ask Marty Stuart, Kathy Mattea, etc!
October 2, 2025 @ 7:26 am
Branch Rickey developed the farm system to avoid overpaying for prospects that his Cardinals couldn’t afford. It wasn’t a MLB policy. In fact, the commissioner at the time, Landis, tried to stop Rickey’s efforts. He viewed the farm system as a vast gulag that condemned players into servitude.
The minor leagues hooked up with the MLB after the rise of television slaughtered attendance numbers in the 1950s. Folks preferred to stay home and watch Milton Berle over attending the local minor league team.
October 1, 2025 @ 3:03 pm
One of my other passions is boxing and I have watched that sport destroy itself with short-term thinking, taking more money up front to put fights on pay-per-view and obscure streaming apps while the overall pie shrinks because new potential fans are never exposed to high-level boxing on free TV. And the shrinking pie means fewer local shows and fewer participants, which is damaging the talent pool over the last several decades. Now I see the team sports leagues drifting in the same direction with the rise of streaming subscription deals and ignoring feedback about quality of play. You can live off inertia for awhile, but we’re in an era where people are willing to move on from things- look at how badly things are going for Hollywood. Things can go from the center of the culture to a greatly diminished niche in a short time these days. It sounds like LiveNation is ready to wreck music if it can rule over the wreckage.
October 2, 2025 @ 11:41 am
Great analogy. 100% agree. Re: boxing – I’m curious to see if TKO can fix the mess with Zuffa, but I have a feeling they are the LiveNation in this analogy…
October 1, 2025 @ 1:36 pm
The idea that just because someone is willing to pay $70,000 to sit courtside at a Knicks game means that someone living hand-to-mouth has no business complaining about a $72 concert ticket is the seat of elitism and out-of-touch-ness. Most Americans cannot afford an unexpected $400 bill. The idea they’re getting a deal by seeing Beyonce for $800 just because it’s not $70,000 is absolutely absurd.
October 1, 2025 @ 2:53 pm
Reading that man’s quote sent a chill down my spine. That bodes ill.
October 2, 2025 @ 7:39 am
He’s a typical pencil dick that knows the price of everything and the value of nothing…
October 2, 2025 @ 7:21 am
All the CEO is saying that the market will pay more for a Beyonce ticket if prices are increased. Just like how the Knicks can charge $70,000 for a courtside seat. If people weren’t buy the seats, the price would be lower.
People don’t like the cold logic of economics, so they are mad.
October 2, 2025 @ 7:39 am
The problem is that only a certain demographic of people can afford a $70,000 ticket, let alone a $800 one. Music is already increasingly undemocratic, with large swaths of the population getting locked out of the experience where in previous generations, everyone could afford at least a seat in the nosebleeds.
I always think of Shakespeare’s Globe Theater in these instances. There was a pit right in front of the stage where peasants could pay a penny and come in and watch the shows. They didn’t have a seat, but they got to experience the performance.
October 2, 2025 @ 8:53 am
Trigger,
I don’t think prices are going to rocket from $800 to $70,000. Maybe for some select seats, but not overall.
I am not a fan of his comments; I believe business is best run when profit and fairness are balanced, and in the long run that method pays off, but I also think there is a lot of hysteria going on.
The market is going to charge what people will fork over. I see the same complaining about fast food prices going up, especially in the Taco Bell Reddit. Yet, the same people keep eating there.
Walk away. Commit to a boycott. The American people don’t have the stomach for actual change. We all want the magic fix or someone else to sacrifice.
I like your Globe Theatre mention.
October 1, 2025 @ 1:16 pm
Although we are losing Duke’s which is a blow, the HiFi in Fountain Square along with the Turntable in Broad Ripple are bringing it! These places don’t lean in fully like Duke’s does with Country adjacent acts but they do still pull in regular options. The indoor option that the HiFi Annex is becoming is to hold around 1,200.
The Live Nation “theatre” (sits 4,000 roughly) that is going in is replacing an underutilized venue that was in Pan Am Plaza where a hotel is being built next to the convention center with this venue. Outside of Old National Center’s 3 options and the Amphitheatre in White River State Park, Indy lacked options that were in the 1,000+ capacity until these and the 2 arenas in the burbs opened in the past year.
October 1, 2025 @ 1:48 pm
Definitely agree Mike D that we are spoiled here in Indy with some really good venues of varying sizes. Especially the independent ones like HiFi and Turntable/Vogue. Dukes is different and simply cannot be replaced. It seems like we have just about everything we need (except maybe a 2500 cap outdoor venue besides public parks where they put on the Rock the Ruins shows). Does Live Nation control The Murat/Egyptian Room? If so, aren’t they cannibalizing themselves with another 4K cap theater downtown?
October 1, 2025 @ 1:45 pm
The Shakopee MN project is a 19,000 seat amphitheater that will probably be competing with arena type shows. Live Nation did build a Fillmore replica in Minneapolis a few years ago at 1,800 capacity. They also bought the Armory (8,300), Uptown Theater (1,700) and the Varsity Theater (750) in last 10 years or so.
We’re hemorrhaging small joints right now and the ones that aren’t gone are barely hanging on.
October 1, 2025 @ 2:17 pm
Random wondering: How long until we start seeing subscription model pricing starting to impact how these corporate venues operate? It’s happened with skiing where a few conglomerates have bought all the ski hills and jacked up the price of a single day ticket so high that it seems like buying the season pass is a “good deal.”
Buy the Live Nation Pass! Only $1,000. Our average ticket is $200 so you only need to see 5 shows in our venues to break even!
*Beers still $14
October 1, 2025 @ 7:13 pm
Mission Ballroom in Denver is listed above. I’ve seen 2-3 shows there. The venue itself is fantastic from a simplicity standpoint. What I mean is that parking is right there, underground. Safe, secure. Yes, you pay for it, but there’s no free parking in Denver anyways. The venue itself is clean, and nice. Air conditioned. No bad seat in the house. Great visuals, bars on both sides, restrooms, etc. drinks are laughably expensive. But I paid $19 for a double vodka/lemonade at red rocks Sunday night. Frankly, I would like to see more shows there.
October 2, 2025 @ 6:20 am
Brent, You got off cheap. I paid $38 for a double low-end bourbon at Madison Square Garden at Fleetwood Mac show a few years ago. At the Harley birthday bash this summer in Milwaukee, four tall boy beers were $68. When I was at Red Rocks in 2024, their prices seemed reasonable. No argument that It is all getting out of control.
October 4, 2025 @ 10:37 am
And yet you paid those prices. It’s a for profit venture. So yeah…. If people pay ivy,they will charge it. Congrats for contributing to your own perceived problem.
October 2, 2025 @ 5:56 am
Portland, ME has been having a big fight about the proposed venue. From the outside it looks like opposition to the venue outnumbers those for it 99-1. The issue going forward for building a lot of these venues will be down to whether or not they meet all the requirements set forth in the city ordinances. In the case of the venue in Austin I would imagine there are very few ordinance restrictions.
I agree with everyone above who is talking about the monopolization of the live music industry. There was an attempt during the last administration to try to break some of these companies up. Since the current administration is pro big corporation I’m sure all that work has been thrown away.
Nothing will change unless we get an administration in that actually pushes anti trust and monopoly laws or everyone stops going to shows. This includes those who are financially more well off since that’s who they will cater to once they price out the average Joe and Jane.
October 2, 2025 @ 7:07 am
Portland, OR has also been fighting tooth and nail to keep Live Nation out since they are the last major city in America without a Live Nation property. They’ve been able to delay it for years, but it appears Live Nation is finally going to get it completed.
October 2, 2025 @ 7:45 am
The CEO of Live Nation-Ticketmaster says that concert tickets are “underpriced” and have been “for a long time.”
He also believes there’s plenty of room to raises prices.
https://substack.com/@moreperfectus/note/c-159861261
October 2, 2025 @ 11:39 am
It should be BADGE OF SHAME to “spend $70,000 for a [live event ticket]”
What a joke…
“In sports, I joke, it’s like a badge of honor to spend 70 grand for a Knicks courtside [seat].”
– Michael Rapino CEO Live Nation-Ticketmaster
October 2, 2025 @ 1:44 pm
None of this is new.
People have always been proud to show off their wealth. In the old days, wealthy folks commissioned artwork and statues. Now, they spend money on sporting events.
There is nothing new under the sun.
It is their money. Why care if someone wants to drop 70k on an legal activity? Love is love sentiment.
October 2, 2025 @ 7:47 am
I guess I am showing my age, but I remember when the Grateful Dead handled there ticket sales in house. With the way technology is today, you would think other bands could move in that direction.
October 2, 2025 @ 8:54 am
The other bands and singers all want more money, too, even the economically liberal ones.
October 2, 2025 @ 11:17 am
The Tabernacle is a mid-size concert hall located in downtown Atlanta. Opening in 1911 as a church, the building was converted into a music venue in 1996. It is owned and managed by Live Nation Entertainment and has a capacity of 2,600 people. I’m not necessarily a fan of Live Nation but I’ve attended a few shows there and it may be the coolest venue in Atlanta to see a concert.
October 2, 2025 @ 11:48 am
I would never discourage someone from going to see their favorite artist somewhere just because it’s at a Live Nation venue, or a Live Nation-promoted event. Live your musical life with no restrictions. But I do think we all need to be clear-eyed about how the business dealings of large companies can affect our communities.
October 2, 2025 @ 12:34 pm
I can’t help but think that if the right group of big artists (like at the Paul McCartney level) just said enough is enough, it could end. Ticketmaster, et al, is ultimately more dependent on them than on people willing to pay $2k for a concert ticket. A boycott by the actually money-making entities could end it, if they wanted to.
But I have concluded that they do not care. Despite making occasional faux-shocked mouth noises about it, they really don’t care. There will always be enough people to pay these prices, so it ends there.
I just don’t go to concerts anymore. I don’t miss them even a little.
October 2, 2025 @ 1:00 pm
Let’s not forget that Zach Bryan orchestrated a massive tour while completely avoiding Ticketmaster and actively calling them out. What happened? His own fans turned on him because supply didn’t meet demand and there were logistical snafus. He still mostly works with AEG and tries to avoid Ticketmaster. That’s one of the reasons he’s been playing football stadiums.
October 3, 2025 @ 1:18 pm
The two comments here display the problem. Most artists are OK with the status quo (they are financially compensated) and the fans want a quick fix when an artist (Zach Bryan) attempts to take a stand.
October 2, 2025 @ 2:47 pm
Saw Sturgill Simpson and Leon Bridges at the Masonic Hall in Cleveland many years ago. Good venue, not a bad seat in the house!
I remember the 90s when Fugazi and Pearl Jam fought to keep prices low. Back then, the “high prices” they were railing against were like $40.
Punk kids still have shows in basements and houses on a pay what you want basis. Maybe up and coming country artists should consider the same. The DIY spirit of the 80s and 90s seems to be a lost art.
October 3, 2025 @ 6:21 am
I’ve pretty much given up on going to concerts. As someone who lives in an area in South Carolina where it takes a couple hours trip just to get to Atlanta, Charlotte, or Charleston, to see a concert, the cost just isn’t worth it. When you add travel, lodging, and ticket prices in the hundreds of dollars each, the cost is well over a thousand dollars for two people to go. I just don’t see the value in it.
I pretty much stick to local bands shows now, and occasionally pick up a show from an up and coming, or past their prime band that sometimes play one of the local small clubs. It’s becoming more and more rare though as even the independent bands tend to stick to the big cities or close to them.
Music like everything these days has become monopolized. It’s sad to think the goal is to turn the music business into the sports model where the average fan can no longer afford to go see a game. Hell, the average fan can’t afford to watch a game on TV with multiple streaming sites and packages required to watch. I’m glad I grew up in a time when you could catch a concert, or a game, without having to take a loan.
October 3, 2025 @ 7:34 am
well said. 👏👏👏
although, I’m lucky enough to live in Chicago-land with many mid size acts coming through playing at small-ish, intimate, good acoustics venues without having to deal with massive travel and shelter costs. Although costs are going up, up, and up.
The real tragedy is that those small mid size acts are struggling just as much if not more. While the big guys (artists, venues, promoters) increase ticket prices and ticket charges.
If you got the duckets, make sure to visit the merch table and buy some stuff or toss artists at the merch table a $20 if you got too many shirts.
So glad “road dogs” as Gabe Lee puts it, have the passion to trek it and share their heart and talents w/ us.
October 4, 2025 @ 6:16 am
I always buy a shirt or two when I go. I like the ones that have the tour dates on them when available. You can say I was at that show.
I’m glad you are able to still get some affordable shows. I live about halfway between Augusta GA and Columbia SC. You used to get some good bands stopping through occasionally, but it has been pretty much nothing for awhile. I’m sure many bands pass on through on the I-20 from Atlanta to the east, but no one seems to stop anymore.
Funny thing, I moved here from the Fresno area in California a fews years back. I used to complain how no one from Texas/Independant country ever passed through the area. Now that I’m gone, Central California seems to be on everyone’s tour schedule lol.
October 3, 2025 @ 8:08 am
Musicians Against Live Nation–Ticketmaster
Octt 2025 | Joey La Neve DeFrancesco
Live Nation–Ticketmaster controls nearly every corner of the US live music business, from ticketing to touring. In Portland, Maine, a coalition of venues, musicians, and art workers rallied the city against the industry’s most powerful monopoly.
https://jacobin.com/2025/10/live-nation-ticketmaster-music-industry