Album Review – Tyler Childers – “Long Violent History”
Long Violent History released by Tyler Childers must be regarded in the context of what it is, and who it is from. This surprise release that includes seven old-time fiddle standards, a theatrical piece in “Send In The Clowns” that’s been turned into a fiddle standard, and one original song rendered in the old-time fiddle style, is not meant to be regarded as a regular, original studio release. In such a context, it would fall apart under the mildest of scrutiny. Remove any Tyler Childers fandom, or any regard for his current stature in country music as a non radio artist defying all odds and revolutionizing the genre, and the majority of the songs and performances of Long Violent History fall somewhere near amateur.
This isn’t a COVID-19 special, of which we’ve received so many of in the last few months—acoustic albums of covers or previously-released songs, or other half efforts—though usually well-performed for what they are by artists attempting to stay busy and keep funds coming in. This practice is perfectly understandable given the plight of musicians, but often not especially compelling or valuable when it comes to seeking something interesting to listen to. But Long Violent History doesn’t even really fit into that category. It’s probably better to consider as a Record Store Day release. “Tyler Childers releases beginner-level standard fiddle tunes played at a beginner level competency, stamped in 180-grain Colonel Sanders suit white vinyl, limited to 250 numbered copies.” A collectors item. An oddball.
Perhaps for people who are not aware or well-versed in old-time fiddle music or primitive Appalachian tunes, the Tyler Childers renderings may feel magical to them. But those who know this music—from artists such as Matt Kinman, or the Foghorn Stringband, or quite a few others who are adept in this discipline, including lots of African American artists who tend to disproportionately perform and preserve this very old music compared to their white counterparts—including Dom Flemons who plays a large role here—this record is a novice work. If anyone really likes this primitive style of roots music, they should really check out the latest record from Cahalen Morrison full of original works, that may be one of the best records released all year.
Playing the fiddle is just as much about hitting the notes as it is how you move between them. With only months of practice before compiling this record (and a broken clavicle bisecting this time), Tyler Childers just doesn’t have the chops to do anything that would be regarded highly within this old-time fiddle music realm, or within the fiddle discipline in general. And any reviewer worth their salt and intimately aware of old-time music would be doing the public a grave disservice to attempt to gloss over the amateur aspect of this material. The scratchy nature of Tyler’s fiddle playing here is very indicative of the wafts of intonation issues and unintentional accidentals one hears while attending a fiddle roundup or a bluegrass festival, and walking past the fiddle boot camp for kids on your way to the restroom. It would earn the 5th place ribbon among a competition of 14-year-olds—the embellishment of bass, mandolin, banjo, guitar, 2nd fiddle parts, and other accompaniment notwithstanding.
But that’s not what all of this is about. It’s not an attempt at releasing a record of top notch old-time fiddle music. Is it?
Tyler Childers is one of the most important country music artists of our era—mainstream, independent, major label, unaffiliated, or otherwise. Some may not be aware, but over the majority of 2020, Tyler’s 2017 record Purgatory has been a steadfast perennial entry in the weekly album charts in the Top 20 of country, regularly receiving some 8 millions streams every seven days, and selling thousands of physical and downloaded copies. It zoomed past the half million sales barrier in mid August, and continues to rack up incredible numbers that are running laps not just around some of the biggest mainstream stars, but most of them.
Earlier this year before COVID-19, Tyler Childers took part of an arena tour with Sturgill Simpson that was so in demand, they were selling out certain dates, and doubling up performances in some cities. And not to knock on Sturgill, but there’s a good chance that when life returns to normal, Childers will be selling out his own arenas. It is hard to express just how big, and how significant Tyler Childers has become. While still receiving virtually no mainstream radio play, and garnering no attention from the CMAs or ACMs, Childers has grown into one of the biggest artists in all of country music at the moment.
And when an artist of this stature chooses to release an album of the most fundamental old-time fiddle tunes that is likely to be the first taste of this type of early roots music for thousands, if not millions of listeners who will be attentive due to the name on the front of the record, it is massively important, sort of like Dierks Bentley recording a bluegrass or parody comedy record at the height of his career, only perhaps even cooler. Long Violent History was recorded with “The Pickin Crew,” which included Tyler’s fiddle player and traditional music instructor Jesse Wells, the aforementioned Dom Flemons formerly of the Carolina Chocolate Drops, 5-string Kentucky banjo specialist John Haywood, mandolinist Andrew Marlin, guitarist Josh Oliver, upright bassist (and solo performer/songwriter) John R. Miller, fiddler Chloe Edmonstone, and cellist Cecelia Wright.
There is talking the talk. And there is walking the walk. Tyler Childers will be the first to tell you his fiddle playing is novice. But he doesn’t give a shit. And in some respects, neither should you. That is not the point. “If I’m writing for a place specifically, then I need to be fully immersed in that place ’cause there’s little things, turns of phrases, and nuances of a lifestyle,” Childers said last year about his dedication to keeping himself grounded to his Kentucky roots. Choosing to learn old-time fiddle that’s at the very foundation of country music and the Kentucky culture is the kind of level of commitment Tyler Childers has to authenticity that few others in country music are willing to pursue or express.
And despite the fair criticism of the simplicity of the selections, and the quality of the renditions (the use of double fiddle on most songs really exposes the sloppy aspect of Tyler’s playing), you’re following along on Long Violent History as Tyler Childers develops and improves his fiddle skills. The opening song “Send In the Clowns” feels very elementary. But by the time you get to his version of “Jenny Lynn,” you start to feel like he’s finding his footing, and he’s becoming a true fiddler. By “Bonaparte’s Retreat,” Tyler Childers has reached a proficiency where he doesn’t need any accompaniment, and really captures that bygone, nostalgic mood that awakens something very deep inside of you in a way only the oldest odes in American and Old World music are capable of.
And then of course there is the final song and title track, which is where most—and for some—all of the attention is centered. Tyler’s tempestuous treatise upon the contentious moments we find ourselves in that directly and pointedly addresses truth in media, the scourge of social media, and the issue of racial injustice is not, and should not be as polarizing or controversial as some are making it out to be, on both sides of the political and cultural spectrum. Brilliantly written and passionately delivered, it’s Tyler’s answer to the current moment told distinctly through his Kentucky eyes.
Of course, in these roiled times, some have taken exception with the song’s content. But much, if not most of the concern is actually tied to the accompanying 6-minute video Tyler Childers released as an addendum to this record, which both deserves it’s own conversation (which Saving Country Music may address in due course), but also should be considered autonomous from this album, and the title song itself. As Tyler Childers says in the video, his intent was for the album itself to be considered without preamble or explanation. It was others that convinced him otherwise.
If you want to recuse yourself from experiencing and enjoying one of the most phenomenal and revolutionary artists in country music in our generation due to perceived or actual differences of opinion on political or cultural issues, you do so at your own detriment, and at the severe limitation of your musical experience, whether that ire is aimed at Tyler Childers, or any other artist that has chosen to express themselves in these polarizing times.
But no matter the attitude one brings to this unusual, and unexpected work by Tyler Childers, it’s undeniable that when his biography is penned, a dedicated portion will be transfixed on remembering that time during the crazy pandemic of 2020 that he released a surprise record full of old-time fiddle tunes, and cemented without a doubt that Tyler Childers is, was, and always will be the real deal Kentuckian that embodies the authenticity many in country music strive for, but few achieve to such a degree due to a heartfelt dedication to his Kentucky roots.
1 1/2 Guns Up (7.5/10)
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Proceeds from Long Violent History go towards the Hickman Holler Appalachian Relief Fund.
Purchase Long Violent History from Tyler Childers
Keepin it Country
September 21, 2020 @ 9:14 am
Honestly not a fan of bluegrass, but I can support any artist who makes quality music, especially when it’s true country music. I like having the steel guitar in my country music, but this is still way better than whatever Sam Hunt or whoever else is on music row is releasing. I’m glad he is able to do so well, despite the challenges of the pandemic.
Steve Severa
September 21, 2020 @ 9:41 am
This surprised me, enjoyed it a lot. Got a lot of time for Tyler.
John R Baker
September 21, 2020 @ 9:54 am
I didn’t take this project seriously at first for exactly the reasons that you mentioned in the first paragraph. I just listened to the first and last track and ,well written statement aside, I thought it was just him screwing around with a fiddle badly while he was bored in quarantine. When I found out that Dom Flemons was involved it made me take it more seriously so I gave the whole thing a listen.
I agree with your well placed criticisms but at the same time I did find it magical. And I have listened to a whole lot of old time fiddle music and particularly things like old Smithsonian recordings. His ability aside the musicians on the project are all steller and to production is great. I felt listening to it like they were really making the deep roots music breathe in a way that I don’t always hear with modern recordings. To me somehow his novice fiddle playing just added to that. I think it’s because the focus was not on the technique, speed, and skill but on the atmospherics and depth of the music. It somehow landed a balance in between a scratchy old Smithsonian recording of amateurs playing a barn dance and what you hear from a polished pros playing the same music today.
I’m not sure how I would really rate it in the end but at the moment I’m enjoying the hell out of it.
Trigger
September 21, 2020 @ 11:00 am
This was a hard record to grade, because as a critic, you’re obligated to point out the flaws, but at the same time you have to look at the bigger picture. The comparison I ended up using was Dierks Bentley’s “Up on the Ridge.” Is that an amazing bluegrass record? Not really. Is it amazing coming from Dierks Bentley? Yes it is.
Paddy
September 21, 2020 @ 12:17 pm
Okay Trigger. Tyler is really one class artist. And as such you have an obligation to review this effort. But to state he goes from novice fiddler on track one to not needing any accompany by Bonaparte Retreat that is really not doing him any favours. The fiddle is one instrument that should be treated with the utmost respect. Yes, even have a bit of fun with it during this pandemic, but do not release something that is just amateurish. Go check Fats Kaplin version of Bonapartes Retreat and feel the difference. I have all of Tyler’s albums but I will not be buying this.
Trigger
September 21, 2020 @ 12:30 pm
If I were a fiddler in the old-time discipline and saw all of the praise flowing towards this record, I might be downright insulted. I think I was very, very expressive and illustrative in this review about just how amateurish this music is, and how we wouldn’t even be giving it a second thought if it wasn’t from Tyler Childers. Some aren’t very versed in what’s going on in the old-time community. I would like to think I am at least to some extent, and can make judgement calls. But I also think that Childers does show improvement as the album goes on, and I do think it’s important that he’s exposing an incredibly large amount of people to a type of music they may not otherwise be.
But yes, most ANY artist in the fiddle discipline is going to do better than what Tyler Childers displays on this record.
Paddy
September 21, 2020 @ 12:35 pm
Agreed. Now go check out Fats. The song is on the album The Fatman Cometh. You will not be wasting your time. And as I said this album had to be reviewed for the simple reason of where it came.
Kent Hall
September 21, 2020 @ 9:55 am
Thank you for this honest and nuanced review, Trigger. I listened to this and ordered a copy on Friday because I think he’s doing something really important here. Plus, he’s giving the money away. I think you’re right that this shouldn’t be as controversial as it’s become.
Doug
September 21, 2020 @ 10:29 am
Tyler dropping an instrumental album that isn’t a cash-grab commercial effort is the hero move in the music world of 2020. I love the album and appreciate him more.
Bob
September 21, 2020 @ 10:44 am
As a person who enjoys “Country” music, it is cool to hear artists who know where “Country” music comes from and play it. “Country” music has always been about the human condition. And this album is no different. A little rough and ragged that expresses his opinion.
You would think that would be enough for people who enjoy what he does. But based on the other shit show of comments the other thread caused, support seems conditional.
It’s not like he did a rock album…
Rawhide
September 21, 2020 @ 11:09 am
*Sturgill Simpson has entered the chat*
sbach66
September 21, 2020 @ 11:55 am
That’s funny right there. Well done.
Daniele
September 21, 2020 @ 10:50 am
Tyler is no Luke Bulla but i like this project and agree it’s very atmospherical.
King Honky Of Crackershire Matters
September 21, 2020 @ 10:59 am
I’ve never been able to consistently enjoy instrumentals, no matter how talented the pickers. I respect and appreciate the ability, but for me to sit and enjoy, there’s got to be a singer.
Keepin it Country
September 21, 2020 @ 11:10 am
I’m with ya there 100%
Doug w bordegon
September 21, 2020 @ 11:53 am
Interesting, I understand your position, but from the opposite perspective. I appreciate instrumentals because they lean on the arrangement of instruments to tell a story. Classical music is still relevant to the listener, hundreds of years later. However, if there were vocals…
JB-Chicago
September 21, 2020 @ 12:20 pm
Unless of course the song called Boomswagglers #1 which is my favorite instrumental song of the year. I enjoy listening to it very much although I do understand entire albums can be tedious.
Danny
September 23, 2020 @ 4:40 am
I felt the same for a long time but then I started to listen to evermore traditional Jazz and came to appreciate instrumentals on a whole new level.
Benny Lee
September 21, 2020 @ 12:02 pm
I like to say the steel guitar is my favorite instrument, but the fiddle is my favorite favorite instrument. This album is a fun journey into the old time fiddle music. The lyrics of the one song are up to par with his other songs, and speak deeper truth than anything reflected in red or blue. Add in the fact that he’s donating the proceeds to a worthy cause, and this is a home run.
Tex Hex
September 21, 2020 @ 12:19 pm
Already said it in the other Tyler mega-thread, but this album is inessential listening, and Tyler Stans seem to be assigning gushing praise to the album that just isn’t warranted.
Tyler’s a lyricist, and this is primarily a mediocre instrumental fiddle music album. I’m just not seeing or hearing the appeal. It’s like when Michael Jordan went to play baseball. Nobody wanted that.
Politics aside, the title track is good. Would’ve been nice to get a bunch more in that vein, because eight instrumentals isn’t making much of any statement on the state of the world, and one track does not an album make. This is like a one-off single, with a 25 minute instrumental intro.
Mark
September 21, 2020 @ 12:30 pm
Long violent history, is a fine tune in every way.
People should watch the video he recorded. Link is in the third last paragraph of trigger’s
Review.
Fuzzy TwoShirts
September 21, 2020 @ 12:31 pm
Let the fiddle teacher (Me) talk for once
I may be a loudmouth, asshole renegade
But I know as much about the fiddle as anyone.
And I’m gonna say it
It ain’t Johnny Gimble
But he knows his stuff. He’s got a confident grip on very clean, precise playing and though when unaccompanied the timing gets a little errant (Eck Robertson playing sally goodin makes similar timing errors but is regarding as the standard for the tune before Byron Berline)
There are veteran fiddle players who don’t have the chops to play an album like this, not because they aren’t good, but because they can’t “swing with it”
More importantly, the intonation is flawless
(In all but maybe a spot or two)
And neither Dick Barrett (Of Weiser Idaho fame) nor Johnny Gimble can say the same
This is my wheelhouse
Make no mistake
Squirrel hunters is no easy tune. It took me years to be happy with that tune.
And Bonaparte’s is harder to do well because it requires a lot of dedication to those drones
Yes the fiddle is tuned open for that song
Yes that makes it harder to play
And I take issue with the idea that the double fiddles are sloppy
Trig, buy an Eck Robertson record, or the skillet Lickers even and you might change your opinion
Because what you call sloppiness is actually dead on for what old time fiddling is supposed to sound like.
It’s only after bob wills that the streamlined sound took off.
This is a great record for sure
Mike
September 21, 2020 @ 6:12 pm
Ever listened to any of Leonard Rutherford’s stuff?
Fuzzy Twoshirts
September 21, 2020 @ 8:14 pm
Not extensively. But the names on my radar!
hillbillyswitch
September 22, 2020 @ 7:12 am
I came here to say everything you just said so thank you for letting my typing finger (just the one) rest
Bill
September 21, 2020 @ 12:38 pm
Mark O’Connor’s album Heroes would be a better intro to different styles of country or roots fiddle playing on a much higher level. But Tyler’s album along with his popularity may expose more listeners to fiddling so that is a plus.
Trigger
September 21, 2020 @ 1:20 pm
Well, and Mark O’Connor is arguably one of the greatest fiddle players of our generation, at least from a technical standpoint. Prickly personality aside.
hoptowntiger94
September 21, 2020 @ 3:57 pm
I’d argue Mark O’Connor in 1990 was (almost) just as popular as Tyler today. I was only 14, 15 then but I knew of him. He was all over TNN/ CMT. I owned The New Nashville Cats album. He charted singles and was a presence at award shows.
Trig … he has a prickly personality?
Fuzzy Twoshirts
September 21, 2020 @ 5:46 pm
He’s an obnoxious insufferable elitist!
Take it from a fiddler who’s met him.
If you sit back and let him be him he’s cool
But god forbid you forget your place or challenge his thinking
hoptowntiger94
September 21, 2020 @ 6:15 pm
That’s awesome. Now I have to meet him. I’d have little to offer by way of conversation, so I’d be ok.
Trigger
September 22, 2020 @ 1:35 pm
Just ask him about the Suzuki method and then step back and let him go.
🙂
Not talking shit about Mark, BTW. A living legend for sure.
hoptowntiger94
September 21, 2020 @ 6:21 pm
https://youtu.be/NUYVy5kXL2s
Someone made the comment about a 14 year old talent show (plus Porter).
Bill
September 22, 2020 @ 5:26 am
Oh well, sounds like some of the other artists discussed on here! Sometimes I’m prickly too and I have zero claims on artistry!
Laurie
September 24, 2020 @ 6:08 am
I don’t know man, I could listen to the smoothie song on replay all day.. that’s just me though. And I think that was 20 years ago. You never know where your entry into instrumental will come from but that’s where I fell into the rabbit hole.
Denice Hall
September 21, 2020 @ 12:44 pm
I enjoyed Long Violent History. TC may not be the best fiddle player, but that doesn’t bother me. It’s a welcome change from everything else I’ve listened to lately.
Bunch
September 21, 2020 @ 12:48 pm
1.5 guns up, yet it would earn 5th place in a competition with 14 yr olds. It’s too bad Kyle can’t just make this a country music news blog instead of flaunting his total ineptness as a music critic.
DJ
September 21, 2020 @ 2:30 pm
Yet here you are- why’s that? Somebody have a gun pointed at your fat head?
Get a critic blog of your own-
RenoBaxter
September 23, 2020 @ 10:31 am
Well, Childers will be the first to tell you that he isn’t Stuart Duncan. This record isnt an entry into a competition. It’s old timey Kentucky music. Good music doesnt have to be technical. Miss the entire point much?
Blackh4t
September 21, 2020 @ 12:59 pm
Personally i struggle to listen to it. I’ve been to too many old time sessions where a bunch of fiddle players want to scrape out the exact notes for the old tunes even if it means taking any life out of the tune.
And guitar players like me get told to shut up and play rhythm.
However, as pointed out, while Tyler’s playing is amateur, it shows variation and focus on flow more than just getting the right notes.
In any case, there’s talking the talk and there’s putting passion and heritage on a record.
Good on him.
Di Harris
September 21, 2020 @ 1:18 pm
Do you think you beat it to death enough, that he isn’t (Yet) world class on fiddle?
I give him major cojones for putting it out there.
This is cooler than s…
Will be a lot of fun taking the ride with him, as he is only going to get better & better & better.
Better be glad he wasn’t there, grading you, on your bedroom antics, as you were coming along.
Got Get ‘Em Tyler
Di Harris
September 21, 2020 @ 3:31 pm
P.S. Trigger knows i was just bustin’ his balls
: D
Jordan Webb
September 21, 2020 @ 1:28 pm
This is about social change not about fiddle tunes and pandemics. Great album, but the review missed the point entirely. Don’t take my word for it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ3_AJ5Ysx0
Jake Cutter
September 21, 2020 @ 1:39 pm
Wow… mind blown! Thanks for dropping your knowledge about the mutually exclusive fiddle tunes.
Trigger
September 21, 2020 @ 1:44 pm
Incorrect. Though your comment does illustrate how political mindsets on both sides are interceding into Tyler Childers’ intent, which as he says at the beginning of the video, was “To package it as an old-time fiddle album, and let the piece make the statement on its own, taking the listener by surprise at the end.”
This review did not “Miss the point entirely.” The video was address and linked to in the 3rd to the last paragraph. I was also the one that both broke the news about this album, and was the first to address the video. Nonetheless, I believed the best way to broach the album was to focus on the music itself first, as Tyler Childers intended, and then broach the matter of the video afterwards.
Saying this is “about social change not about fiddle tunes” I think is a bit insulting to the work Tyler Childers and his collaborators have presented here, and definitely not what Dom Flemons conveyed in his lengthy introduction to the album that can currently be found on Tyler’s website.
DJ
September 21, 2020 @ 2:27 pm
Being an amateur I appreciate amateurish sound. I’m no Tyler fan but I like his sincerity in this effort, something many main steam (and amateur) singers and players lack.
I also remember when Merle Haggard introduced his fiddle playing into his music- I thought WTF?! But, he got pretty good at it. I tried, years ago, since an acquaintance of mine had one and he asked if I wanted to try since he knew I played at playin a guitar- if it was easy everyone would do it. It ain’t, so not many do.
I’ll certainly recommend this to people who claim they like “real” country music.
hoptowntiger94
September 21, 2020 @ 4:01 pm
I did my yearly summer power rankings earlier this year. Without touring, it was a little flat, but:
1. Tyler Childers
2. Cody Jinks
3. Luke Combs
4. Whiskey Myers
5. Zach Bryan
Brent Johnson
September 21, 2020 @ 4:34 pm
His examples of headlines could be true, it the MSM chose to run those kind of headlines but it doesn’t fit the narrative. Not saying we don’t need police reform but did anyone notice that Tim Scott, a black politician put a bill forward doing just that and the Dems outright rejected it? My rejection of BLM is that they are a COMMUNIST group whose stated goal is to turn us into a communist country and if you think that’s going to help, you should bone up on history.
Eric
September 21, 2020 @ 5:53 pm
Here’s the problem with your “logic”:
The worst offenses of communism were the result of a police state. BLM wants to reduce police power.
Therefore, if BLM succeeds, then the future will be the opposite of the type of communism you refer to.
Brent Johnson
September 21, 2020 @ 6:04 pm
Communist regimes start with changing or replacing current structures. There will be police but they will be jackbooted, the style of government demands it.
Trigger
September 21, 2020 @ 6:10 pm
Folks, this is an album review of music. Let’s please keep it on the topic of the music. This review purposely did not broach Tyler’s video, and there is no mention of Black Lives Matter on this record.
JM
September 22, 2020 @ 7:16 am
Not all BLM supporters are communists. Many of the people marching peacefully in the streets are regular people with no nefarious political agenda.
A lot of the leaders are avowed Marxists and there is plenty of overlap between BLM and the radical left in many places, especially those that are pushing the “defund” or “abolish” the police horsesh*t.
If someone in my neighborhood or town needs help, I’m more than willing to help. But I’m not going to kneel in front of them or help their kids break windows or support idiotic policies.
Eric
September 21, 2020 @ 5:55 pm
Fantastic use of fiddle.
As for the songs, the vocals are an acquired taste, but the lyricism is top-notch.
Brooke
September 21, 2020 @ 7:55 pm
Well, I guess even novice, elementary, rudimentarily performed fiddle music makes me cry. Either fuck me or fuck you.
Chris
September 22, 2020 @ 5:55 am
Trigger, why are you set on removing Tyler’s agency in posting the video? For someone who routinely calls out media for misrepresenting artists (it’s wrong to say that Dolly supports Black Lives Matter when she said “black lives matter”), saying that “his intent was for the album itself to be considered without preamble or explanation. It was others that convinced him otherwise” seems fairly egregious. Yes, he said that he initially intended to let it speak for itself, but that “there has been concerns that the album could be misinterpreted” without an explanation. Nowhere does he say that others had to convince him, and it seems a bit disingenuous to say so without knowing more context behind the concerns he speaks of.
Trigger
September 22, 2020 @ 7:59 am
I’m not set on removing the Tyler Childers video at all. I was the first outlet to post an article about Tyler’s surprise record, and as soon as I was alerted to the video, I was the first to add the video to the conversation:
https://savingcountrymusic.com/tyler-childers-drops-surprise-album-long-violent-history/
Also, I’m not ignoring the video in this article either. I posted about it in the review, and posted a link to it for anyone living on Mars who may have not seen it. I would say at this point it would be difficult to impossible for anyone that is aware of Tyler Childers to not be aware of the video. However I wanted to have a discussion here that focused on the music itself out of respect for the work Tyler Childers and his collaborators did here. If you go to the comments section of the first article I posted, you will see that 95% of the nearly 300 comments all have to do with politics, and nothing to do with the music. I run a country music website. I wanted to have a country music discussion. I find it kind of insulting that the fact this was a collaboration with Dom Flemons has become an afterthought. Also, as Tyler Childers says himself in the video, his original intent was to release the album without explanation, so it only seems fair to consider the music in that context.
I’m sure I’ll be posting something about the video itself soon, so I can hemorrhage readers on both sides of the political spectrum for being a motherfucker who doesn’t validate their world views in a lock step manner.
Happy 2020.
Chris
September 22, 2020 @ 9:02 am
Thanks for your response! I was not worried about you ignoring the video – I found it on your site, so no worries there! I’m just concerned that it’s framed as though Tyler was “convinced by others” to post it when he didn’t say that. Because he felt that the message would be misconstrued, he decided that his original intent wasn’t the way he wanted to go. He clearly wanted the political message out there, and I understand your dislike for political talk in the comments, I just don’t know how that can be avoided with an album that Tyler meant as a political statement.
I’m not sure what you mean by Dom Flemon’s involvement being an afterthought. Based on Tyler’s statement and Flemons’ own twitter, it doesn’t seem that either meant for Flemons’ involvement to be the main part of the story and instead focus on the album’s message as a whole.
Trigger
September 22, 2020 @ 1:45 pm
Look, I totally understand that there can be different interpretations here, and I don’t want to act like someone forced Tyler to make the video.
But when he says “It was my original goal” and “I planned to package it,’ he’s clearly talking in 1st person. When he later says, “However there has been concern,” this concern would appear to be coming from other parties. Otherwise, he may say, “However I was concerned.”
Again, totally understand others may interpret it differently. But my feeling is either his label, a publicist, his wife, manager, or who knows who, or a combination of people chose to advise him to make a video as well. Otherwise, he would likely say he chose to make the video, and would not start off saying how it wasn’t part of his original intention.
My only point about the Dom Flemons involvement is that it seems like an afterthought to many, along with the music. I didn’t want it to be that way. That is why I chose to broach the subject of the music itself.
Che
September 22, 2020 @ 6:09 am
With average fiddle playing and the vocals being only on the last song, I find it incredibly difficult to believe that this would be considered a 7.5
Enjoyed it, wish that I hadn’t purchased it
On a side note, Jason Isbell has another live album coming out
I would like to see the comparison of what his sales were pre/post woke era
– I no longer purchase his albums prior to listening to them first
JM
September 22, 2020 @ 7:10 am
I was enjoying this for what it is. Then I watched the video.
After hearing a version of this same message on repeat for the past 4 months from just about every corporation, athlete, musical artist and anyone else with a public voice, I didn’t need to hear it from Tyler. It wasn’t a “brave” or risky statement to make at this point. It’s the message handed down on high from academia and nonprofits, framed in a way to appeal to us “common” people. I’ll save my money for Travis Tritt’s new stuff.
NattyBumpo
September 22, 2020 @ 7:37 pm
Everyone’s cashing in on the train. It’s sort of like ambulance chasing I suppose. Hopefully this wasn’t his jump the shark moment but there’s a trend of musicians lately that once they get political their future music noticeably takes a turn for the worse.
hillbillyswitch
September 22, 2020 @ 8:06 am
The thing that makes hillbilly music so precious to me is its perfect imperfection. The occasional wander off the timing trail, the every now and then screech of a bow on a string. Every old song tells a story, bad English and all. Remember, alot of these tunes weren’t even written. They were “thunk up” by somebody and “learnt” by everybody else, long before they were ever tabbed. Tyler knows who he is, and he knows what he’s doing. He knew we’d talk about it. He knew everything we’d say before we said it. It’s a win, first, from that standpoint. It’s also a win musically for me and alot of people who are just happy that someone with a huge influence on young listeners is sharing these beloved tunes with them,, that many of them have never heard. They don’t care if he’s a novice. They are gonna stomp the floor on the fast stuff and drink on the sad stuff and feel that same ancestral tug in their gut that Ty does. Then he’ll hit them with the thinking part. That’s how you do it, and he is damn good at it.
Kenny
September 22, 2020 @ 3:48 pm
I appreciate the honesty and thorough review of this album. I understand how some could get hung up on the technique and not take into account the flow of the album. I grew up in West Virginia and all my family picked and sang. I have seen and heard some of the best and worst at one time or another. Grampa always said that is not the carrier but the message that he carries. Some may criticise Tyler for his technique but I find it honorable that he would put his message out there. Not for other artists or seasoned musicians, but for the next generation. Tyler is bringing new energy to the music of our heritage and delivering it to the young folk that will carry the torch when we pass it on. For this reason we should praise Tyler and all who press the boundaries of tradition.
Toddxolsen
September 22, 2020 @ 4:00 pm
Trig,
Great review. Thanks.
I’m really wondering if this is going to hurt Tyler in his wallet. I’m imaging there will be quite a herd of ignorant folks who will turn his back on him after this.
Trigger
September 22, 2020 @ 10:49 pm
It will be very interesting to see what happens with Tyler from here on out. I expect this album to do well for what it is. But since it’s not really a proper studio record, I don’t think we’ll get a good read off of it specifically. There is no doubt though, with the amount and degree of negativity flowing his way at the moment, it’s not going to help. A comparable might be the nose dive Sturgill’s sales took after his comments busking outside the CMA Awards. But I think Tyler’s comments are completely different. He didn’t outright call out a segment of his fans and tell them he didn’t want them listening to his music like Sturgill did. He just shared some opinions, and in a very respectful manner.
Di Harris
September 23, 2020 @ 5:14 pm
“But since it’s not really a proper studio record, I don’t think we’ll get a good read off of it specifically.”
Maybe that will end up being a big + for this record.
That it is something real & honest.
This song sucks
September 22, 2020 @ 10:06 pm
What a shitty title track! This dipshit is trying to be like daddy. This fucker watches too much cnn msn!!
RenoBaxter
September 23, 2020 @ 10:38 am
New here? This is an album review. Take this bullshit back to your own Facebook page, Ace.
Kenny
September 23, 2020 @ 5:13 pm
Agreed. If ya come to our house ya can sit on the porch and pick with us….if’n your gonna whine while we sing you can sit in the yard and howl with the other mutts
1234
December 23, 2020 @ 9:24 pm
Honestly, supporting the riots is dumb but the fact that I can walk into a store with a gun on my hip for protection and some people wont simply because they’re afraid of the name a few people made for the good majority, is a red flag for the state of our constitution. I’ll leave it at that.
James
October 18, 2020 @ 8:41 am
One thing I enjoy about this album is the way that the title track at the end (as well as his video message that he put out) contextualizes the old fiddle standards that make up the rest of the album. These songs matter. These songs are worth passing down. These songs are real Southern culture and are worth celebrating, not an ugly old flag of a dead nation that was flown by traitors who lost. When looked at as an entire work, the fiddle songs are part of the message of the title track.