Album Review – Tyler Childers – “Snipe Hunter”

Indie rock-inspired Americana (#570.5) and Appalachian Music (#519) on the Country DDS.
It’s nowhere near as good as some of the hyperbolic proclamations being bandied about profess, and it’s not even close to the colossal letdown that others are alleging. It’s an album that finds Tyler Childers finally gracing fans with actual new, unheard material, showing off his knack for taking bumpkin-isms and making both hilarious and meaningful moments from them … and then Rick Rubin misunderstanding this material, and scuttling what otherwise would have been a pretty solid album, and still is in moments.
The Snipe Hunter starts off strong with an impassioned though tongue-in-cheek track called “Eatin’ Big Time” that captures Childers somewhat sarcastically bragging about his Gold and Platinum records and $1,000 watch. “Eatin’ big time” was like an inside joke between Childers and his entourage back when he still haunted social media. It underscores how Tyler is sometimes at his best when he can work his deadpan humor into the equation.
But as you go into the second song “Cuttin’ Teeth,” you immediately pick up on one of the biggest foibles of this record. Tyler Childers sounds like seven different singers during this 13-song album, with Rick Rubin either allowing or encouraging Childers to go places vocally that are unflattering. Along with all the other assets you can praise Childers for, he’s an incredible singer. The pain he brings, and the inflections that comes across so naturally to his tone is what has made Childers such an intriguing artist.
But whether it’s getting him to sing in unusual keys, running his vocal signal through unnecessary filters, or tasking him to scream out stanzas under some misguided notion this creates an emotive experience, the times that Tyler Childers actually sounds like Tyler Childers on this album are fleeting, and come most obviously in the two songs released early from the album, and the ones we already had previous versions of: “Oneida” and “Nose On The Grindstone.”
This same questionable approach of being experimental for experimental’s sake besets multiple songs on the album when it comes to production, arrangement, and music, especially in the second half. Some have claimed this is an album that’s more intentionally indie rock, and folks shouldn’t criticize it just because it’s not country. But most of the songs themselves are actually the folk-based Appalachian country Childers is known for. It’s the production that feels out of place, not audience expectations.
And though it’s easy to offer up Rick Rubin as the sacrificial cow for Snipe Hunter‘s weaker moments, if we’re being honest, some of Tyler’s new songs are somewhat weak as well. “Bitin’ List” is a silly song, but just like “Eatin’ Big Time,” it shows off the endearing humor of Tyler’s personality. However, “Down Under” is just a dumb song that sounds like it was written from boredom on a plane back home from an Australian tour. You allow for one or two silly songs from Childers. But Snipe Hunter has one or two too many.

Yet those that can’t find a reason to praise the album’s strong moments are selling themselves short. If we’d never heard “Oneida” and especially “Nose To The Grindstone” before, we would be lauding them as two of Tyler’s finest, because they are. It’s not this album’s fault other version have been worn out previously. “Getting To The Bottom” is a good song, even if it’s a key too low for Tyler’s vocal sweet spot. “Watch Out” and “Poachers” are solid tracks as well, and ones you look forward to seeing live.
There’s nothing political about this album at all, but “Tirtha Yatra” is certain religious, with Childers using the song to recall his exploration of Hinduism, even if it’s in done in his folksy, Appalachian attitude. The next song “Tomcat and a Dandy” is very Appalachian, but with “Hare Krishna” chants in the background, pulling it into the domain of the religious as well.
Tyler Childers should be allowed to explore his spirituality through his music, and both “Tirtha Yatra” and “Tomcat and a Dandy” are well-written Tyler Childers-style songs. It’s just the production once again that sours the experience. Both of these songs served more straight would have resulted in a much more entertaining and sustainable listening experience.
The final song “Dirty Ought Trill” that should have been the “Whitehouse Road” of this record, meaning song exploiting the best of Tyler’s knack for building characters and bringing them alive with Appalachian vernacular. But the track’s turned into some pseudo hip-hop thing that ultimately becomes one of the primary culprits for people registering their strong disappointment with this record since it’s the last thing they hear. And just like on the first song on the album, there’s unusual overcussing that doesn’t work toward emphasis, but comes across more like a 12-year-old just learning to swear.
With the strong and fresh material that Tyler Childers brought to this project, Snipe Hunter could have been a retrenching, revitalizing album for his career that overall has been coasting off the strength of the now 8 year old Purgatory. It could have been what Weathervanes was to Jason Isbell, or The Price of Admission is to the Turnpike Troubadours. Instead, there’s too much weirdness misunderstood as creativity or “boundary pushing” to resonate deeply.
For all we know, Rick Rubin is the brilliant producer he gets credit for. But he doesn’t know his way around Appalachian folk music. That’s made clear by the results of Snipe Hunter. If Rick Rubin did anyone a favor, it was Cody Jinks who released his new album In My Blood the same day. The contrast between the Cody Jinks album really makes a strong case for artists sticking to what they do best as opposed to wild experimentation under a misguided notion of exploring creativity.
Tyler Childers chose to work with Rick Rubin, and made a purposeful effort to include more original material on this new album under the correct notion that what he’d done one his last few releases wasn’t working, or at least as good as it could be. But it’s fair to assess that when it comes to making albums, Childers is still searching for his compass point after parting with Sturgill Simpson as producer.

Nonetheless, this album benefits from subsequent listens. Since it intentionally challenges the listener, and makes such wild mood swings in approach, giving some time for the strength of the written material and some of the better tracks to reveal themselves is strongly advised. This is not a bad album. No matter your tastes, most anyone can cherry pick their way through it and find some good stuff.
So why are we seeing such a strong negative reaction to Snipe Hunter, even more so than some of the questionable production deserves? It’s the same reason some are calling it the best album of the year, even though it’s still July. Often when you have a big release like this, there is one select, “exclusive” feature released. In this case it was a puff piece by Marissa R. Moss in GQ.
“He’s an arena-filling Nashville outsider who wrote a Black Lives Matter anthem and put a gay love story in a music video,” the subheading proclaims. “Now, fresh off a pilgrimage to India, he’s releasing his spiritual and artistic opus, Snipe Hunter. ‘If I’m trying to talk to another young Tyler out there, he needs to know he’s not going to hell for thinking something else different.'”
Most importantly though, a portion of the feature where Childers proclaimed his no longer plays his Double Platinum Certified song “Feathered Indians” due to the potentially offensive nature of the term “Indian” was turned into a viral meme by major social media outlets like Country Central, Country Chord, and Whiskey Riff. This created a “woke” poison pill for the record on the eve of its release, and soured the well of sentiment for many country fans, and for a record that otherwise has no political statements, aside from perhaps some mild and subtle ones.
Meanwhile, in the type of ultra elite circles a publication like GQ caters to, they’re taking this record as something you must support strictly for political purposes. Just like Beyoncé’s Cowboy Carter, you’re supposed to praise Snipe Hunter to the hilt as an action of moral preening. The title of the feature is “How Tyler Childers Made the Most Visionary Country Album of the Year,” as if this is possible to declare in July, from an outlet that most ignores country, and by an author who abhors its fans.
But both politically-motivated takes on Snipe Hunter are irrational, just like much of political thought in 2025. Tyler Childers presents some great songs on Snipe Hunter. Rick Rubin presents some misguided decision making. This all results in a mixed bag that no matter your tastes or ideologies, leaves you with a feeling like once again, Tyler Childers leaves himself short of what he’s able to achieve if the stars are aligned, with his 2023 album Rustin’ In The Rain probably the superior project, if for no other reason than it was more consistently emblematic of Tyler Childers, despite the lack of more new, original material.
Some songs of Snipe Hunter remain brilliant works of Appalachia country. But when rock production is brought to them, they’re pushed into the domain of “Americana,” meaning an amalgam of American music influences. As Tyler Childers once said himself, “Americana ain’t no part of nothin,” and unfortunately, that’s what certain moments feel like on Snipe Hunter.
6.8/10
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July 26, 2025 @ 8:20 am
Nothing gold can stay.
August 2, 2025 @ 6:35 pm
I’m just a rocker introduced to to TC three yrs ago. I enjoy it all…from this insanity to his gospel stuff. He’s an original there is no doubt.
July 26, 2025 @ 8:28 am
To me i think most of the songs here are great except the production really holds them back. Live however they’re gonna amazing
July 26, 2025 @ 9:06 am
Please, Tyler. Please go back to working with Sturgill, err Johnny Blue Skies. For the love of all that’s good in this world, please.
July 26, 2025 @ 9:48 am
The world needs Sturgill back in the booth Tyler
July 26, 2025 @ 9:53 am
I think the Rick Rubin who produced “Unchained” or even “Wildflowers” would have done just fine. Unfortunately that’s not who showed up.
July 26, 2025 @ 10:43 am
I don’t blame Rubin. Listen to his interviews. He just wants to recede and let the artist be the artist. See, Cash recordings.
July 27, 2025 @ 9:50 am
If you read the GQ piece that was included in article, I think it’s clear Tyler didn’t want that Rubin and this is exactly what he wanted. Unfortunately
July 28, 2025 @ 7:30 am
As others have noted, I think this is more Tyler’s choice. Rubin is known for not getting in the way too much and just trying to draw out what the artist wants to express.
July 26, 2025 @ 11:49 am
Great review Trigger. I got lambasted writing my reviews on many social media outlets for stating many of the ideas and opinions that were similar to the ones mentioned above. Expectations are a hell
Of a drug. Nonetheless, the production left a lot to be desired. Maybe, one day Tyler will hit that sweet spot again.
July 26, 2025 @ 12:23 pm
It’s unquestionable that overall, the general public sentiment over this album is mixed at best, if not mixed to negative. There are also people who have very positive takes on the album, and I 100% respect that. I understand it appeal.
There is a very angry, terse, very small, but very loud cohort that believes anyone that has anything negative to say about this album must have their entire credibility and lives destroyed, and are setting out to do so in a way that can only be described as a mental health crisis that is quickly becoming part of the story of this album, and its release. This is especially robust on Twitter, where users have cordoned themselves off in echo chambers that are so tight and entrenched, any negative sentiment is severely triggering, and must be resolved by launching into ad hominem attacks upon whoever shared them.
July 26, 2025 @ 6:13 pm
I don’t know if I look at it like that. His music has been shit anything after country squire. Not a single good album. 5 track albums. 7 track instrumental albums with one song with actual lyrics.
I can work with that even if it’s bullshit. Either you like it or don’t and most childers fans have let him know it’s horseshit.
My problem and why he needs to be run out of the industry is the constant political virtue signaling nonsense. Pro lgbtq video to hide the middling quality of that last album. Laughably serious video of himself talking about how a terrorist organization like blm, akin to Isis and Al qaeda needs our support. It’s like fuck you, dude.
And these constant media statements about politics. It’s woke horseshit.
His falloff is legendary, going 3 for 3, now to be 0 for 3 since. He’s released like 12 songs since 2018. But why he needs to be blacklisted is his activities outside music: his activism.
His politics have no place in country music as an industry and as a culture. He should continue making music, however mediocre and disappointing it continues to be.
But as far as his politics, he absolutely should face legal consequences for it, up to and including being fined, and losing his contract and fired.
Once you move into the Isbell or Mickey guyton style preaching where it’s overt, every interview, every moment you are inserting some woke dei line, you’ve crossed the rubicon. And those people need to be run out of the industry and ultimately deported from our country.
July 26, 2025 @ 6:54 pm
Zero likes
July 26, 2025 @ 11:08 pm
zero likes?
More like ratioed.
July 27, 2025 @ 2:15 pm
Replying to “rather be….etc….”
You sound like you need a hobby dude.
July 29, 2025 @ 4:34 pm
Ahh yes ‘His politics have no place in country music as an industry and as a culture.’ Every TRUE country fan should want to shoot gays in the head and make out with Putin! Wtf is wrong with you XDD
July 30, 2025 @ 9:47 am
100% agree with feathered Indian. Tyler needs to be told FUCK YOU and abandoned by his fan base. Dude is a total clown.
August 6, 2025 @ 8:18 pm
Dear Feathered Indians,
Tyler Childers doesn’t need your approval—and he never asked for it. If a pro-LGBTQ video or a song about justice feels like an attack to you, maybe take a look in the mirror. That’s not “virtue signaling”—that’s basic decency.
Country music has always been political. From Johnny Cash to Loretta Lynn, real artists speak truth. You just liked it better when the truth didn’t challenge you.
Calling BLM a terrorist group and demanding artists be fined or deported for their beliefs? That’s not about protecting country music. That’s straight-up fascism.
As Jason Isbell put it: “We won’t shut up and sing.” You don’t get to blacklist progress. You just get to watch it pass you by.
July 27, 2025 @ 9:15 am
I’m of the belief that Sturgill can do no wrong, except provide Tyler Childers albums. Some of the choices they made on songs weee incredibly head scratching but dang I’ll take that over this any day.
July 27, 2025 @ 1:27 pm
Universal sound sure sucked.
July 27, 2025 @ 4:52 pm
THIS. Better songs and better production with sturg. He’s the greatest alt country mind alive today.
July 26, 2025 @ 8:30 am
It may not be fair but if this was the first album of an artist I hadn’t heard before I would probably like it more. My wife’s review was pretty simple “I liked every other song” and I think I feel the same. Trigger absolutely nailed that more than the music the biggest problem is Tyler’s vocals which you should never say about one of the greatest country singers alive. I am disappointed. May not be fair but I do come to a Tyler Childers album with a lot of expectations and I was frustrated by parts of this. I can say I haven’t heard Oneida outside one concert so having it on here was wonderful. It’s a great song. And there’s a few very good songs on here. But it’s not The Price of Admission and it feels like it could have been.
Also country squire was a great album and continues to be unfairly lumped in with his lesser stuff
July 26, 2025 @ 8:54 am
I didn’t mind the production as much as the fact that a lot of these songs are themselves ate massive letdowns. I never thought I would hear a country song about koala bears with STD’s, but here we are…I respond well to quirky humor, I love Lyle Lovett singing “If I Had a Boat” and Robert Earl Keen singing “Farm Fresh Onions” but some of these songs are just too out there. Plus how many songs about animals/the outdoors do we need? For that matter, it’s a weird decision to tame down the artistic dignified use of the f-word in “Nose on the Grindstone” on a record laden with gratuitous profanities and crassness. (Did we really need to hear about the devil’s…ahem?) He also seems bitter to me, which doesn’t always translate well to listenable music unless you’re Bob Dylan. At this point it does look like Tyler is running out of ideas as a songwriter. I hope he can recover his inspiration at some point.
July 26, 2025 @ 9:24 am
Part of the appeal for Tyler Childers music has always been his ribald humor. I think it’s refreshing that he went back to that on this album. However, he went to that well one too many times, and “Down Under” is just downright bad. It should have been left off the album, and drags down all the other humorous songs, along with the album itself. The adolescent cussing also didn’t help, especially beginning and ending the album with it.
July 26, 2025 @ 10:48 am
What’s wild Trigger, is Down Under stood out to me on first listen. I don’t have expectations for artists and think they should be just that, artists. So to me I found it very entertaining and very catchy. I myself like a wide wide wide variety of music so that may be part of it. Pink Floyd was one of Childers inspirations. They would do a lot of layering of sounds to create emotion. That’s what Tyler is doing but in a completely different genre of music.
I agree with your overall assessment that this isn’t his best or worst. What I would say that even his subpar work and writing is light years ahead of most of these artists.
July 26, 2025 @ 3:02 pm
The problem is this album is all over the place and doesn’t know what it wants to be. It smacks of experimentation for experimentation’s sake. Sturgill does it way better, so maybe Tyler should dip back into that well again next time. I also think a lot of these songs will sound great live. I saw Tyler a couple of months ago, and it was one of the best shows I’ve seen in the last couple of years.
July 27, 2025 @ 1:20 pm
The variety is why I am positive about it. If you ever shuffle my personal playlist, you will get a lot of different sounds. Seems like we are approaching it from different angles.
I also connected with lyrics like “don’t wanna spook ya up a mama bear”. Anyone who has hunted or spent time in the woods know what that is all about. So many meaningful real lyrics in this album. Sturgill talking about being in France didn’t hit me that way. I’ll admit Sturgill def had the more emotional meaningful lyrics overall. To me it reflects where they are both at in their lives currently.
I like that Tyler went full send on positivity on this one. I have enough sad songs in my playlist, nice to lighten it up but still have solid lyrical content.
I think its hard to compare Sturgill to Tyler, two amazing musicians. I felt like Sturgill didn’t get that experimental to me, Johnny Blue Skies is still the signature sound. Childers definitely took a much bigger swing. Probably the reason its so polarizing.
July 27, 2025 @ 3:26 pm
“Watch Out” is a great nature song, rooted in a place Childers knows well, and maybe even a teaching song aimed at kids.
“Down Under” almost seems like a parody of “Watch Out”. It’s a nature song, for sure, but it’s almost as if he lost a bet and had to up the ante on Roger Miller’s “England Swings”.
July 26, 2025 @ 9:10 am
“Snipe Hunter” somehow reminds me of “Tusk” by Fleetwood Mac or “Young Americans” by David Bowie: somehow a successful artist tries something new but somehow the result isn’t quite right.
And personally, if I want to hear experiments, I listen to post-punk stuff. When I listen to country, I want music that touches my heart, that gives me strength and confidence. I can’t really find that in “Snipe Hunter”. But that’s just a personal thing. And I have to say that the album grows with repeated listens. What bothers me the most is the production; the experiments don’t really seem organic. Daniel Tashian, who also takes the sound of country artists in other directions, makes more sensible productions in this regard.
July 26, 2025 @ 4:52 pm
Tusk and Young Americans are two of the most influential and highly regarded albums ever made even if they confounded established fanbases or failed to live up to commercial expectations. I havent heard this album yet but you unwittingly made me more excited to check it out.
July 27, 2025 @ 9:54 am
“Tusk” and “Young Americans” are brave artistic statements away from the comfort zone of the respective artists. The same can be said about “Sniper Hunter”. But it is doubtful that these works are among the greatest works by these artists. It’s not without reason that “Rumours” is considered the peak of Fleetwood Mac and “Ziggy Stardust” is considered the peak of Bowie. How many songs from “Rumours” and “Ziggy Stardust” have found their way into collective memory and become classics? How many songs from “Tusk” and “Young Americans”?
The gold standard for albums that successfully and convincingly took a new musical direction and redefined the artistic work of musicians are still albums like “Pet Sounds” or “Sgt. Pepper”. And “Snipe Hunter” is a galaxy far away from this artistic perfection.
This is a discussion forum and I just wrote that I didn’t really like Tyler Childers’ new album. I don’t care whether that encourages anyone to listen to the album or not.
July 27, 2025 @ 11:35 am
Just gotta push back on the notion that “Ziggy Stardust” was peak Bowie. Bowie changed his sound so many times that if you line up all his records, can a peak even be found? What is peak? Like what is Bowie? Is he just Ziggy? I think he would laugh at anyone that said he peaked in 1972. That era can be someone’s favorite, or maybe it was his most commercially popular (unsure if true), or maybe someone could argue it was his most influential (I would not make that argument though).
But again, what is peak? Commercial success? Collective memory/classics? Inspiration of other musicians and music generally?
July 28, 2025 @ 8:08 am
Art is purely subjective. Rumours is a great album, but I find much more repeated listening pleasure with Tusk. For my subjective taste, I like albums that challenge and go against type, which makes me more interested in the Childers album based on your comparison. I was just pointing out that what seemed to you as a negative, could easily be taken as a positive by some.
As for Bowie, Young Americans wasn’t even his biggest left turn, that would probably be the Berlin trilogy which many cite as his best era and includes one of his most enduring hits “Heroes”
July 26, 2025 @ 9:11 am
6.8 is generous. It’s a disorganized, misguided effort. Spot on with your comments on production.
Poachers is a high point. Bitin List and EBT are fun and I’m sure will be great live, but would be filler songs on previous albums. Oneida and Grindstone don’t fit whatsoever. Down Under is one of the worst songs I’ve ever heard.
July 26, 2025 @ 9:11 am
Good review and I largely agree. I think the songs are generally pretty good, other than “Down Under.” And “Watch Out” hasn’t really made an impression at all yet. “Cuttin’ Teeth,” “Poachers,” and “Getting to the Bottom” are my favorites of the new ones. “Snipe Hunt” was my favorite of any of the unrecorded songs in Tyler’s back catalog and I actually like the very different version here, although it strikes me that a pure rockabilly version would be even better still.
After several listens, I would consider this album his most solid since “Country Squire,” but it’s very understandable how divisive it is. If we remove “Down Under,” add the two or three best tracks from “Rustin’ in the Rain,” and Sturgill (or Shooter, Dave Cobb, etc) produces it, I think we probably have a real masterpiece here.
July 26, 2025 @ 9:18 am
My first two thoughts after listening to it were
Back to the Americana speech
and did he steal Sturgill’s organ player from the Sound n Fury tour?
July 26, 2025 @ 9:24 am
Trig, you’re on the bitin’ list
July 26, 2025 @ 9:42 am
Probably 😀 . But hey, I’m not running a popularity contest or to pal up with artists to make myself feel part of the cool kids. I’m here to give my honest opinions.
July 26, 2025 @ 9:25 am
Personally think this is the best of his stuff with The Food Stamps in that country/swamp rock sound. Definitely has overproduction, but think that might be what was missing from some of the recent releases for me.
It’s not Red Barn or Purgatory but there’s plenty of that sound out there now. Miss the old Tyler but not having a bad time rocking with the new one. Maybe we’ll see him strip things back again in the future.
July 26, 2025 @ 10:20 pm
I think this is a really interesting point. There are so many artists trying to be Purgatory era Tyler, it does make sense that he’s moving further away from that. It’s great how influential he is though.
July 26, 2025 @ 9:30 am
Blah blah blah blah. This album rules. Down Under is clearly a disguised exploration into the throes of mental illness and addiction, but sure, a “dumb song” is that super nuanced take that you’re definitely known for Trigger. Fact is, Tyler has been challenging listeners for years, and will continue to do so. I’ll take that over the same recycled sounds that flood this genre every year. We’ve got Purgatory, we’ve got Country Squire, we don’t need them again. Cheers to a great record and a breath of fresh air.
July 26, 2025 @ 9:53 am
” Down Under is clearly a disguised exploration into the throes of mental illness and addiction…”
I don’t know about that, but I will allow that it could be a possibility. If that was truly Tyler’s intention, he failed at expressing it in a way that came across as clear to many listeners, including myself who took extras time to regard the songs beyond the production.
But hey, if you think the album rules, that’s all that matters. I’m just here giving my opinion. I don’t think this is a bad album.I understand how people could find great appeal in it.
July 26, 2025 @ 9:58 am
“There’s always somethin’ thrilling
To get your heart a racin’
No shit I’ve had the notion
But that ain’t what I’m chasin’
And life is more than treasures born
From sense a light and pleasure
And I would not take a thing
From my journey out under”
I think it’s pretty clear Down Under isn’t a song about Australia. Appreciate the response, Trigger.
August 2, 2025 @ 11:05 am
I appreciate your write-up, even if I don’t agree with some points, as I’ve found lots to love about all of this record. What does “experimentation for experimentations sake” even mean? That he shouldn’t experiment if the results aren’t something you like? I’ve seen this phrase thrown around a lot in relation to this release but I can’t help but feel like it’s unintentionally insulting to the artists creative process.
I think it’s the responsibility of an artist at the caliber of Childers to push his own boundaries and evolve his sound in new ways. Yes, many people would be fine with him continuing to release traditional country and bluegrass with little evolution, because his songwriting, voice, and instrumentation is on par with the best of the best. However, it’s clear that he’s not comfortable just being that artist and has never been. There have been hints of this throughout his catalogue, from Universal Sound to the Joyful Noise C Side of Hounds.
I think it would be a shame if his talents were wasted by releasing another album like Purgatory or Squire, even if it was as good as those two. I’d still love it, but we have those albums already. We will have those albums forever. Music is an art created over time and the evolution of the artist is one of the things that separates the goods from the Greats. I can accept and come to love overproduction and left-field decisions made, because they’re indicative of the artist stepping outside their comfort zone and challenging themselves, which is the type of creative and personal development that everyone should aspire to seek. It’s inspiring as a creative, in the same way that Sailor’s Guide and Sound & Fury were.
Anyways, this ended up being much longer than I intended, but I hope you can come to enjoy this record more over time.
August 2, 2025 @ 11:50 am
Hey Jacobi,
Thanks for chiming in.
I wrote this review before reading the big feature on Tyler Childers in GQ in full because I didn’t want whatever was said there to influence my opinions on the album. In the article, Childers describes in detail how the whole experimentation for experimentations sake” thing happened, and better than I could. It has to do with how co-producer Nick Sanborn came into the recording process after many of the tracks had already been recorded to as Tyler Childers says, “put the drugs on it.”
“This album needs to be weirder,” Sanborn remembers Childers writing. He’d never worked on a country project before, but it was a fast yes, especially when tasked with that kind of marching order. Childers sent the album opener, “Eatin’ Big Time,” and asked him to get to work. Sanborn did a pass.
“Nah, man,” Childers responded. “Go harder.”
This is what myself and others were hearing on the album, and these superfluous elements felt like interjections into the creative process as opposed to a true creative collaboration. I understand if some people like this “weirdness.” I personally found it distracting from the heart of the song and the intended artistic expression.
There’s more about this in the second article I wrote about the album:
https://savingcountrymusic.com/how-tyler-childers-made-the-most-polarizing-country-album-of-the-year/
July 26, 2025 @ 10:07 am
I don’t feel the need to be challenged. I just want good music. I’ll take Turnpike or Kelsey Waldon’s brilliantly written records over this any day.
July 26, 2025 @ 10:17 am
Well, “brilliantly written” is certainly an opinion, but, great, that’s why you have your good ol’ boy tunes to listen to instead, but acting ignorant to the fact that Tyler has presented challenging concepts in the context of traditional sounds and genre for years is not his fault, it’s yours. For what it’s worth, I love Turnpike, and I think their new record is excellent, however, there’s room for artists in this genre who aren’t dead set on making good ol’ boy records every single release. Cheers.
July 26, 2025 @ 10:57 am
A song like Turnpike’s “On The Red River” most definitely challenges the audience to unravel concepts buried beneath the surface. What it doesn’t do, however, is challenge the audience to listen through music or production they might find polarizing. Granted, more rock or more avant garde production might be what draws others to a song. But we are discussing what generally is established as a country artist on a country website. I also don’t think the “good ol’ boy” tag is fair to use on Evan Felker the songwriter, euphemistically. He might be a good ol’ boy. His songwriting is as thoughtful and involved as anyone’s, including Tyler’s. If not more.
July 26, 2025 @ 11:12 am
Hi Trigger,
I think you know what I meant, but I’ll go ahead and explain again that my term “good ol’ boy” is suggesting that Turnpike has stayed in their lane musically for the entire career and within the traditional noises and sounds of this genre, and, in some respects, their turn (or stay) to “good ol’ boy” country is only evidenced by their extreme rise in popularity, however, I will grant that some of that is due to the genre’s general increase in exposure, but make no mistake, they are mainstream country, and that is due to their good ol’ boy leanings. I wasn’t commenting on Felker’s lyrics (as I mentioned, I’m a fan) or the fact that some of his songs aren’t philosophical in nature, but, again, as I mentioned, I think you knew that; this was more of a comment on Turnpike’s sound being virtually un-changed since 2007. They don’t take the risks Tyler does musically or lyrically, in my opinion, and that’s okay, it’s not their bag and doesn’t need to be. It’s a different meal for a different day, and I’m all for it. Appreciate your response.
July 26, 2025 @ 10:31 pm
Right but felker is a better songwriter than Childers. Childers is able to set a mood and tone. Which is a talent. At least he used to be able to. Which is funny because I think Childers thumbs his nose at Morgan. Morgan also has that same talent of mood setting and vibes. But the thing is we have Morgan we don’t need any one else. When you have the goat of it, at least modern times wise, why would I go elsewhere for diminished returns.
Universal sound is about the only song where it’s philosophical in nature.
His lyrics usually are humorous as you say. Nothing usually there substance wise.
Which again is funny given Morgan released 15 times more songs than Tyler in the last half decade and most of not all were better than Tyler’s.
Tyler has nothing approaching a Skoal Chevy and browning on this, or a Jack and Jill. Nothing even remotely as catchy.
Morgan’s album will suck the oxygen and air out of Tyler’s not just this week, where I’m sure Morgan will return to his number one spot after Travis Scott warmed the seat for a week. No one gives a shit about washed up Tyler.
So given their history it’s ironic but maybe Tyler could learn a thing or two about country music from Morgan.
July 26, 2025 @ 12:49 pm
Turnpike has a lot of Dylan in their sound early on, I hear bits and pieces of his melodies everywhere especially on diamonds and gasoline. If you like me see them in a triangle of sound with Wilco on one corner, Dylan and George strait on the other corners, I think they’ve moved a bit more toward the strait end.
July 26, 2025 @ 6:19 pm
Good lord, dude. Go outside and touch grass.
July 26, 2025 @ 11:58 am
I interpreted the Koala lines to be about resisting the temptations of the road / staying faithful to his wife. Maybe I’m searching for what isn’t there, but I agree it seems pretty obvious the song is about more than Australia and is playing off double meanings.
All that said, it’s some of my least favorite production in the album.
July 26, 2025 @ 9:31 am
Accurate. Tyler is at his best when his unique and powerful voice is the shining star and everything else plays a supporting role. I’m looking forward to high quality live recordings of the new songs I like.
July 26, 2025 @ 9:32 am
This is genuinely one of the worst albums I’ve heard in a long time. Some of the songs legitimately hurt my ears.
I liked drunk Tyler much better than whatever he’s on now.
July 26, 2025 @ 9:38 am
It’s awful.
Good job trying to pick out the decent bits, Trig, but they remain bits. Tyler was at his best eight years ago at the Red Barn, and that could’ve been extended and developed in interesting ways with integrity. But this? Ugh, pass.
Fortunately there are plenty other writers and artists and voices to follow while Tyler goofs around in the woods with a cheering section trying to tell us three inches is ten feet deep.
Bummed, but we’ll live.
July 26, 2025 @ 9:43 am
You were dead wrong about Sturgill’s Sound & Fury and you are dead wrong about this one too.
July 26, 2025 @ 10:18 am
This album is much better than “Sound & Fury.” Not sure how I could be “dead wrong” when my opinions range between the two polarized viewpoints on the album. You’d think I’d have to be somewhat right either way.
I’m seeing a lot of people as per usual with an album like this casting off dissenting opinions as simply being anger that it’s not straighforward country. Sturgill Simpson’s “Passage Du Desir” received an 8.6 rating here, and was nominated for Album of the Year. So I’m definitely open to exploring territory well beyond country. I just want the songs respected by the production. Sound & Fury didn’t do that. Snipe Hunter does at times, doesn’t in others.
Another thing that I feels needs to be said: The majority of Tyler Childers fans are disappointed with this album in one capacity or another. Scanning through social media, this is simply a certifiable fact. There’s also a decent amount of positivity for the album. I’m not trying to convince folks who love the album to hate it. I respect everyone opinion, and this review was simply mine. But I do think people who love the album need to understand it’s a polarizing release, and there are legitimate reasons why Tyler Childers fans might not like it.
July 26, 2025 @ 11:00 am
I think folks get confused when you give a good rating to a somewhat experimental album like Passage Du Desir, and then don’t like Sound of Fury.
It’s clear you are not a fan of psychedelic music. So I think that throws folks off. They are like wait Sturgill sounded different on the new album. However, he stuck to regular instruments and not much synth.
Maybe I am off in my assessment. It’s just most times I find myself agreeing with you, not this time.
As far as the fans go. Tyler has been invaded by the bro country crowd, so not surprised the majority don’t like it. They probably only like Dirty Out Trill, lol.
July 26, 2025 @ 12:26 pm
Trigger has called the Grateful Dead his favorite band and has heavily promoted Metamodern Sounds, Billy Strings and Daniel Donato so I don’t think it’s fair to say he’s biased against psychedelic music.
July 26, 2025 @ 12:30 pm
Hey Tango Whiskey,
Respectfully, I think you’re off on your assessment.
My favorite band of all time is The Grateful Dead. I’m strong behind whatever the hell Billy Strings wants to do. To me “Pasage Du Desir” veered into the jam band experience, and unlocked creative avenues that shouldn’t be disallowed as an extension of country music. To me, “Sound & Fury” was just a noisy mess, just as “Snipe Hunter” is, at times. I don’t consider this psychadelia. I just consider it noise. Overall, I’m a song guy. I want the production and instrumentation to respect the song. At times, “Snipe Hunter”does. At other times, I think the idea “Gee, we need to do something different here” got in the way of just letting the song live and breathe on its own. We live in the era of the song. That’s how Zach Bryan can sell out three consecutive nights at stadiums. As bad as his production is, it doesn’t get in the way.
As far as the fans, sure, there might be some Bro-Country overlap. But I think this has more to do with politics and the viral social media memes poisoning the well. But sure, some mainstream fans latched on to “Whitehouse Road,” and want to hear that over and over.
July 27, 2025 @ 1:43 pm
Trigger, I respect your take, I think we just come at this music from different angles. I get wanting the production to serve the writing. For me, sometimes the mess is the emotion. NIN, downward spiral and especially the song Hurt is a prime example of this. So many layers and the emotion wouldn’t be there if it was a clean song.
I also get your point about letting a song breathe. I don’t think reworking or evolving a song inherently disrespects it. Ian Noe just reworked Born in the USA, and changed the whole vibe. Sturgill, Isbell, and all the great live artists are masters at it. That being said, this is all subjective. You obviously have good taste (massive understatement), to say the least.
Not throwing shade but I don’t think being a Deadhead equates to embracing all forms of experimentation. I know Deadheads who can’t stand KGTLW or bands like GOAT, so I wouldn’t call it a litmus test for noise tolerance.
As for the fanbase… I’m mostly speaking from what I’ve seen here in Central Oregon. The Farewell Festival was a pretty clear turning point for me. There were a lot of folks there who didn’t seem remotely invested in the music. Beers flung at artsts, just a rough crowd all around. I go to10+ shows a year, and I’ve never seen that vibe before. It was less about appreciation and more about being seen.
All that said, I think Snipe Hunting works because Tyler did swing big. It’s imperfect, scattered and wild in spots, but I’d rather hear an artist stretch than play it safe. I’ve got enough sad songs in my rotation. Nice to have some uplifting music with strong lyrics.
July 27, 2025 @ 4:09 pm
Interesting take on FairWell Fest. Went there the first year and didn’t experience that. Seeing that Treaty Oak Revival was on the lineup (with an honorable mention to Koe Wetzel). That’s your answer right there. I personally witnessed that band allow FairWell’s sister fest Two Step Inn descend into chaos after they played.
July 28, 2025 @ 7:58 am
Trig, “ Overall, I’m a song guy. I want the production and instrumentation to respect the song”. That ripped at my musical soul. Spot on,
sir.
July 26, 2025 @ 11:13 am
I think in a lot of ways this is a pretty good album. It has a lot of good songs. It however definitely isn’t country in a lot of places (while having some very clear country songs in a way sound and fury didn’t). As a Tyler Childers fan I was disappointed. I really think if this was an album from a new artist presented context free I would like it a lot more. But it’s not context free
July 26, 2025 @ 8:21 pm
I think all 3 of those figures, Isbell, sturgill and Childers have the same failings in terms as their latest couple albums. All 3 have become known for things outside music. Were those things that everyone in the fanbase could agree with like they moonlight as vets at an animal shelter on weekends. We’d all be on board.
However that’s not what they are known for nowadays. All 3 have fanbases that universally view their art as diminishing returns compared to their first albums. The biggest song of isbells career is cover me up and the biggest country artist of our lifetime covered it. And the average Morgan fan doesn’t give two shits Isbell wrote it and don’t care at all about Isbells music. I’d bet most Morgan fans don’t even know it’s a cover. So that’s Isbells legacy? Fucking brutal. That’s not even touching what else he’s become
Known for beyond his asinine and poisonous twitter rants, being a drug addicted drunk who beats and abuses his exes. That’s y’all’s savior for the genre? Really?
Sturgill doomed his career the moment he decided instead of sucking it up and attending an awards show he’d act like a fucking bum and busk outside the ceremony and talk about fascism. He’s become a meme in 2025 more than a musician. He’s better known as an actor than a singer.
And Childers output speaks for itself. 12 songs since 2019 and middling bullshit experiments like instrumental music and overtly woke lecturing IN THE MUSIC trigger like on a long violent history, all doom an artists growth. Hard to grow and expand your reach when you view conservatives as evil. And woke was the story of the election. So coming out in favor of it clearly is going to be unpopular. Trump was viewed as the non woke candidate and people voted for him because of it. If you’re a country musician in 2025 and speaking woke into existence, prepare to be memed, trolled and called out on your bullshit.
July 27, 2025 @ 3:48 am
This reads like you’re recovering from a sizeable stroke. Tyler, Sturgill, and Jason, while nowhere near perfect, could fart into a mic for the next 20 years and it would still be better than anything Morgan Wallen has ever done.
July 27, 2025 @ 11:32 am
I guess the question is, if you were to ask the average, I’m talking average fan of Jason, sturgill and Tyler if they thought any of all had fallen off in terms of quality, what do you think they would say?
And while Morgan’s newest didn’t get the reviews his past couple did, it’s an extremely successful album. 2 months at number one.
July 27, 2025 @ 12:03 pm
You seem literally unhinged. Get some exercise!
July 27, 2025 @ 2:03 pm
Jason Isbell is on a very short list of the best living songwriters today. Also a good singer and an excellent guitarist. I get lost in the powerhouse that is his catalog. And if he wants to use his pulpit to get his opinion out there, knowing that he will alienate significant numbers of potential fans? Courage of his convictions. You want to erase him? Your business. How his politics fit with mine has no bearing on my enjoyment of his music.
July 28, 2025 @ 12:50 am
Yeah irs like one of his songs is about guns or ownershio of guns do americans really think in 2025 you should be allowed to walk about in civil life with a gun on you and arent you ashamed of yourselves? If he alienates an audience for saying that then maybe its the audience that is the problem not the artist?
July 27, 2025 @ 2:17 pm
This reads like a donald trump word salad speech.
And that’s not the compliment that you’re probably going to take it as.
July 26, 2025 @ 9:35 pm
Hush about Sound and Fury now.. one of the best albums of the last 20 years.
July 27, 2025 @ 11:11 am
Would disagree with the comparison, trigger. Sound & fury wasn’t a polarizing album in the way A Sailors guide to earth was. Sailors was the . album sturgill turned his back on fans and has had a slide in his music and album quality ever since. Sound and fury by contrast was an album that was well loved by fans and critics on release, and sturgill getting wide props by being interviewed on Joe Rogan and Rogan shouting out the album as one of his favorites. That’s not music that’s experimental or off putting or shocking to fans.
sailor was that though. The bizarre nirvana cover. The album felt like a letdown especially given the biblical praise metamodern sounds received from fans and critics.
Sailor was the moment sturgill gave us all the finger and he hasn’t made anything of quality since.
Overall though I think both sturgill and Tyler share similar sentiments of outright disgust and hatred towards their fans and as a result the comments and responses by fans towards their albums since then have gotten extremely heated. Both have outright contempt for fans and the industry and show similar amounts of anger towards us.
I look at it like both responded to fame in exactly the same manner. In one way it’s completely understandable and justified they both would want to not be pigeonholed and making the same kind of music over and over again. If you are sturgill who wants to make metamodern sounds in 2025? I get it. But both of them have intense anger and outright disdain towards all of us and it’s more than a little off putting.
July 26, 2025 @ 12:42 pm
Ok, I think Sound and Fury is an interesting comparison here. I think Sound and Fury, while the weakest link in Sturgill’s discography, is a far superior record to Snipe Hunt. There was obvious great playing on some songs (Ronin, Remember to Breathe, Fastest Horse in Town), and a lot of the songs were good Sturgill songs underneath. But the two albums share a couple flaws: overly processed vocals, too many songs on the same topics (everything came back to hating the industry on S&F, here it’s all the songs about vaguely menacing critters), and as with Sturgill previously, I get a sense of resentment towards his audience creeping in. That’s especially disappointing with Tyler because he’s made such a point to retain Kentucky dialect and even when he made music with polarizing political or religious viewpoints I have always gotten the sense of deep respect for the people he came up around. Perhaps I’m reading too much into the line from Poachers (which was witty) or the “Feathered Indians” comments in the interview but that’s the sense I get. Hopefully I’m wrong about that.
July 26, 2025 @ 2:10 pm
That’s why I don’t like the people’s early favorite “Bitin’ List.” It’s shockingly out of character for Tyler who usually takes the high road. And in this current political climate, not helpful (even if veiled by humor). And on an album inspired by Buddha, it’s overly mean spirited.
July 26, 2025 @ 4:17 pm
I read more sarcasm in “Bitin’ List,” but there is definitely a weird energy around this release that’s bringing out a lot of hatred out of people from various cohorts.
July 28, 2025 @ 8:16 am
I won’t bring politics into this, but taking a left at the fork on the road is quite mad.
August 2, 2025 @ 11:20 am
I feel like Poachers shows that Tyler is quite aware of the unusual hatred that he receives for his unapologetic empathy and transparency about his beliefs. Seems to me like he doesn’t really care that a loud minority of fans can’t stand his progressive ideals and Bitin’ List comes across as a very tongue-in-cheek response to that. He opened the track at Dinosaur World with something along the lines of “ain’t no sense in hating anyone specific so forget them and just get it all out with this song” – I think it fits to have an album inspired by eastern philosophies, self-actualization, and mindfulness with a track smack dab in the middle that serves as a sort of unambiguous, non-specifically-targeted expression of frustration – part of achieving that peace is processing untoward thoughts, and Bitin’ List serves that end.
July 26, 2025 @ 9:52 am
What an excellent review. Spot on interpretations of the good and the bad, stated in a clear explanatory manner. My excitement for the release dropped rapidly, after several listens. I couldn’t quite make out my feelings or assessment of it all, but your review expertly states exactly what I was feeling.
July 26, 2025 @ 9:56 am
I have a few Tyler Childers albums but the last one that I thought was reasonably good was probably ‘Country Squire’. His subsequent albums were for me disappointing. He is an artist that I find difficult to really understand why he is so highly critically acclaimed. I feel much the same way about Sturgill although Tyler for me is a more distinctive artist. On first listen, I thought the album all over the place and a bit of a mess. I have listened to it a few more times and it does get better with subsequent listens. It has in my opinion some pretty poor songs and I would expect the production overall to be better and more consistent. Having said that, it is not bad and I am quite enjoying it. For me, it is way behind the new Cody Jinks album, an artist I find to be far more consistent and more deserving of acclaim. This is not a bad album but not a good or great one and I agree with much of what is said in the review. What I would say to anyone giving a listen, do not give up on it after the first listen. It does get better on subsequent listens but with a few songs to skip.
July 26, 2025 @ 10:13 am
Snipe Hunter is a bit of a let down. To me, the only song that sounds like him is Nose On The Grindstone. It’s the one that had the most emotion. I could hear him in that song. And by that I mean that it sounded like Tyler Childers. His raw heart was in that song. Poachers got closer to sounding like him, too. Bitin’ List is a good song to listen to on the way home from work. I love his voice. I love how he sings and what he sings. But Snipe Hunter didn’t sound like him to me.
July 26, 2025 @ 10:14 am
Shut up and chant
July 26, 2025 @ 1:20 pm
This is very good comment that made me laugh. Very rare these days. Good job Moses.
July 26, 2025 @ 10:31 am
Marissa R. Moss sure loves to puff a lot.
July 26, 2025 @ 10:31 am
I have only just started my second listen so my opinion isn’t fully formed. One thing that I don’t think will change is my distaste for the vocal filters on some songs, to my untrained year it sounds terrible. I don’t think it’s a bad album, just unappealing to me. It’s all good though, not every artist grows in the direction that I would choose, and that’s okay. There are lots of artists that I own four or five albums but always return to the first two. Tyler’s in that category.
July 26, 2025 @ 11:31 am
Flawless review. Thank you for acknowledging that it’s not terrible all around but certainly not great or classic or AOTY either. Only the attention dolts like twitter Brad are desperately trying to hype this up as great and only bc they listen to soft pseudo country made more for Carrie Bradshaw. No one cares about India and biting list is so corny it could have been an Eminem single.
July 26, 2025 @ 11:45 am
Finishing it the first time, I knew I enjoyed it, but it was unquestionably the least country album in his catalog, which was going to piss a lot of people off.
Artistically, I think it’s awesome. My criticism of Childers in the “Hounds” and “Rustin” era was always that it was boring, and the records felt more like a product than art. This is definitely not the case with Snipe Hunt. It takes it too far in spots, which was aptly noted, but no one ever had fun driving a car with the cruise control set to the speed limit.
The grooves in “Watch Out” and “Trill” just rule, man. I know it’s different, but it’s awesome, and it’s fresh. I think “Trill” will end up being a fan favorite for the rest of Childers’ career.
Also, I was really glad to see the return of the tongue in cheek, witty songwriting that had been MIA since Country Squire. Some of the lines had me rolling. Mocking critics in “Poachers”, the Sean O’Malley reference in Trill were definite highlights.
I agree that “Down Under” (and “Tomcat”) should have been left on the cutting room floor. “Eatin Big Time” and “Snipe Hunt” are too loud and hectic, probably could have used some refinement. But, I’m still taking envelope pushing Childers any day. The misses are worth the rewards.
July 26, 2025 @ 11:48 am
Donthe few loud Childers fans really like this? Is it paid bots?
The album and this sound sucks.
Trig is being extremely generous at 6.8
July 26, 2025 @ 11:11 pm
Agreed. It’s boring central. We waited for this? For these songs?
Can he just not write great music anymore?
July 26, 2025 @ 11:55 am
Way too many moments here where the production decisions hurt the songs. If someone, either Childers or Rubin, had recorded all of this material in the same way as the first two Childers albums we’d have something close to a masterpiece.
Disagree with you Trigger about Bitin’ List which I think is a great classic country song in the vein of I’ve been Flushed from the Bathroom of your Heart or a Boy Named Sue. At least till it gets to that stupid overproduced last 45 seconds or so. And having that happen a dozen times over is too much.
I think your comparison to Cody Jinks is also spot on and I was thinking about that too. Jinks hardly ever catches fire anymore but he still makes albums that sound like Cody Jinks albums.
I got no problems with artists who want to experiment or whatever but is it to much to ask to call yourself Johnny Blue Skies or start a metal band with a different name so I know I can skip it. P
July 26, 2025 @ 12:11 pm
This is a steaming pile of shit
July 26, 2025 @ 12:25 pm
I didn’t like it at first, but then I ate a gummy and now it’s on repeat! Keep it weird!
July 26, 2025 @ 1:14 pm
Great record. I hope it follows Sturgill and earns a Grammy Best Album nomination. No music genre maintains a static sonic profile. Artists like Tyler, Sturgill and Jason are leading the way forward. But while Tyler’s fans wait for the next Purgatory they can tune into the drab, rinse & repeat sounds of players like Jinks. Get on board y’all; the “independent” country music train is leaving the station.
July 27, 2025 @ 7:19 pm
Completely agree. Let’s just take this album for what it is. An absolute blast. Nothing wrong with a bunch of fresh sounding fun songs. And I’m in the minority of those who actually likes Down Under – reminds me of late career Paul Westerberg and the poppy tunes he wrote for movie soundtracks. Poachers, Bitin’ List and Dirty Ought Trill will be blasting in the bars. Cannot wait to hear this material live.
July 26, 2025 @ 1:14 pm
I respectfully disagree. I appreciate that this album captures Tyler’s natural live voice more than his previous efforts. Belting out songs like “Eatin’ Big Time” and softer songs like the ol’ “Nose to the Grindstone “. Which is no surprise given Rick Rubin’s involvement. His work with Neil Diamond and Johnny Cash are earlier examples. “Getting to the Bottom” is doesn’t fit because of the vocal manipulation. That said, I enjoy his give no fucks lyrics. Is it my favorite release from him? Nope, but after 4 listens it’s near the top.
July 26, 2025 @ 1:19 pm
There’s nothing natural or unfiltered or close to Childers live vocals on Snipe Hunter. That can not be argued otherwise.
July 26, 2025 @ 1:17 pm
I don’t know what to think of this album. I can’t even get the setting right on my players to try and listen to it. I listened to it last night over speakers (not little ear buds) and it was al little bit better. Maybe I’ll grow to like a few songs, but overall I’m extremely disappointed (today). I do think the best art takes time to decipher.
There was a ton on India/ Budda imagery all over Country Squire’s artwork and music videos and musical moments in between the tracks, but it never got in the way of the music. So I lay blame on Rick Rubin. I was hoping for less and got too much to the point some tracks are unlistenable especially Childers’ canned, distorted vocals buried deep in the chaotic mix. I 100% agree with you that Childers vocals are his strong point and in some of these songs are stripped of emotion. I also think Rubin’s tricks have gotten stale. Some of the songs of the 2nd half of Snipe Hunter sound like stale 90’s rock songs.
I’m a simple 48 yo man from Appalachia. All I need is a (country) song, a guitar, and a mic to be satisfied (maybe a little fiddle and steel). Up to this album, Childers has never disappointed. I loved Rustin in the Rain and Country Squire as much as Purgatory. I found enough tracks on Hounds to be satisfied.
My early thought is this album is a one-off, and conceptualized ode to his travels to India, a chance to collaborate with Rubin. I don’t see any of these new songs – excluding already concert favorites Oneida and Nose on the Grindstone – making concert setlists. They haven’t to date and I can’t see taking off Shake the Frost or Her and the Banks for any of these. But Childers keeps one guessing.
July 26, 2025 @ 2:57 pm
Okay, this makes me feel a little better. I am not an audiophile so I was blaming feeling like I was having a hard time really hearing this album on the fact I was listening to Spotify on an iPhone. I’ve been re-listening through AirPods but still feel like I need jacket lyrics to read along to pick up on half of this. It’s like the vocals are 20% too subdued or the instruments and various other sounds are 20% too forward, but I feel like the singing keeps getting buried.
July 27, 2025 @ 10:32 am
“I don’t see any of these new songs – excluding already concert favorites Oneida and Nose on the Grindstone – making concert setlists”
Respectfully, I will take this bet. I’d offer Eatin’ Big Time and Bitin’ List as candidates for setlists way into the future, and maybe Dirty Ought Trill as well. Bitin’ List is a viral TikTok moment waiting to happen.
I love this album and always will.
July 27, 2025 @ 11:31 am
I saw Childers played “Eatin’ Big Time” last night. But, that could be because of the new album release this week. Studying Childers for a decade +, none of this is his MO.
He usually plays songs live for years before recording them. Songs from Rustin in the Rain where part of his regular set list for years before recording them. We were originally expecting those songs on Hounds. So I’ll still take that bet despite him playing one this weekend.
July 26, 2025 @ 1:32 pm
Awful album, don’t think Tyler cares though as long as GQ writes a puff piece about how different he is. Which they did today.
July 26, 2025 @ 4:24 pm
A few points:
How can one review this album without mentioning Nick Sanborn of Sylvan Esso who worked on the songs making them sound “weirder” which is what Tyler wanted? It wasn’t all Rick Rubin.
“Oneida” and “Nose To The Grindstone” seem like they were included to please older fans but for me they don’t really belong on this album. I get he was originally going to make an album of all older songs but these two just don’t fit.
How do people rate an album and rank it compared to others in an artists catalog the day after it came out? I’m not talking about reviewers who probably got it early, I’m talking about fans? I need to listen and live with new music for a while before even thinking about comparing it to older music. Some albums (like this one) take a while to sink in. Calling it awful or whatever says more about the person than the album which most reviews have hailed as a good one.
When can I read a review of a new Tyler Childers album without having to see the word “Purgatory” in there? That album came out years ago. He’s put out loads of music since then. I have ZERO desire to hear another album by him that sounds like that one. As the kids say, been there, done that.
The thing I like best about this album is none of the new songs sound like any other older songs of his. True artists like Tyler are always moving forward and are not interested in making the same record over and over although many of his fans would be happy with just that. Not me.
I’ve seen Tyler a bunch over the last few years, his shows were starting to get samey and predictable. Hopefully armed with some new tunes he can start mixing things up. I’ll be there for sure!
July 26, 2025 @ 5:25 pm
There were both wildly positive, and seeringly negative takes on this album being shared immediately upon its release, well before anyone was able to listen through once, let alone multiple times and sit with it, or on multiple mediums, which an album where production is part of the concern is probably necessary. That’s how we know many of the opinions about this album come from preconceived biases, many based on politics. And as I said in the review, this is one of those albums that improves with subsequent listens.
As far as the lack of Nick Sanborn of Sylvan Esso mentions, this goes back to the obtuse nature of the rollout of this album, where basically no info was given, and the lead singles were not really illustrative of the album. With the last two releases, it’s almost like RCA is trying to hide what they have.
I get so tired of seeing the takes, “You just don’t like it because it’s not country,” and “You want the artists to make the same album over and over.” Especially the second one is a complete straw man. Nobody has ever said that. Sure, there’s expectations, and people might enjoy the approach an artist starts with, but nobody is calling for a reenactment, or no growth from a performer. Sturgill Simpson with his last album showed how someone can do this the right way. Thinking “weird” = creative or groundbreaking often gets performers in trouble. “Weird” means nothing. Frankly, it’s lazy. You want to push boundaries and defy expectations? Go for it. But make something of substance. Adding a bunch of random noises is nonsense.
July 26, 2025 @ 4:25 pm
“Awful album” that many fans seem to love and is getting great reviews? I doubt that you even listened to it.
July 26, 2025 @ 10:18 pm
I listened and I hated it. It’s the worst album of the year, hands down. So yeah, saying it’s awful is putting it mildly for me. And beyond my take, take a gander at the other reviews on here. It is bleak as it should be.
I’m pissed I had to listen to it. And never will again.
From modern day classics on his first albums to this shit?
This is Tyler’s middle finger to us all. And I’ll gladly return the favor, by flipping him off too in my comments.
It’s one thing to be reclusive and know, hey, we get it. He retreats for long periods to make these albums. But what we often are left with are 7 songs that took 4 years to complete, and in this case the best song on the album and one to the best of his career is a filler essentially because we heard it half a decade ago. It would be like cover me up being only available as a stand alone live from Morgan via a live release from the tour before dangerous. And then him releasing a studio cover me up on I’m the problem. Why would I fucking care about hearing that?
Tyler is a self righteous person who got way above his raisin’.
I don’t like it, don’t care to like it. And frankly never did.
August 5, 2025 @ 5:16 pm
Do you and ‘Morgan’ share a bed or something?
July 26, 2025 @ 1:47 pm
Did not like AT ALL on first listen in my vehicle, which has a decent sound system. Much better on second listen, and with earbuds. Not sure which made more difference. Still not 100% on it, but went from 👎 to 👍
July 26, 2025 @ 1:57 pm
The middle of the record feels a bit indistinct to me. There are a number of great songs, and I think Tirtha Yarta in particular really pulls off its musical ideas (replacing a fiddle fill with a keyboard — dunno what precisely — is fun, and it works in the context of the song!).
It’s very wordy, and often clever, but a lot of the songs lack the immediate, arresting quality of his best material, musically and lyrically. That’s not to say that I think he should’ve stuck to a formula, or should still be singing about doing coke — I think his willingness to branch out could lead to something really exceptional in the future, allied to a slightly more sympathetic production, and perhaps slightly stronger overall material. Who knows? Got completely bored of Sturgill after that crap 20 minute concept album, but he completely won me over with JBS…
July 26, 2025 @ 2:00 pm
I bought this album based on previous work, I was expecting more than to hear cussing unneeded just for shock value… this is an I’ve heard a lot Tyler Childers… but the idea you can just get up and perform in a mixed crowd the &*(&()&*(&(&^&^*@@@$$$ language was a step back… unless you want your audience to accept you want to limit your audience who may be into it. It’s the main reason I don’t tolerate rap music. Insult and shock. Wants to think he has religious values… but could not perform this on TV Radio or church. maybe the next album will be better or meant for an audience who cannot play the music for all to enjoy. Maybe I just expect more class from a gifted performer.
July 26, 2025 @ 2:12 pm
Trigger – I think your review was pretty spot on. Two things that stood out for me: Too much compression on the vocal chain (sounded overdriven at times) and too much kick drum (became distracting). I’m mixed on the album as a whole. There are several cuts I like now after a few listens and there are a few that just don’t hit the mark for me. Was hoping the Rubin production from Wildflowers or I and Love and You would have been present, but now I guess that was just wishful thinking.
July 26, 2025 @ 2:50 pm
As an Aussie, the Down Under song did not go down well with me, lol. It sounds like an amalgam of all the dumbest internet stereotypes about Australia. Also, koalas aren’t bears!! Grrr. Although I am curious how it’ll be received if he ever plays it live here. Maybe an audience full of beer will go for it.
Anyway, I’m hoping the album grows on me, because I do really like Tyler.
July 26, 2025 @ 2:52 pm
I’ve been a Childers fan for over a decade. Hell my first dance at my wedding was “All Your’n” five years ago. I don’t mind the experimental sound, even had to get my soon to be wife to overlook the music video. I understand artists grow and evolve to test boundaries. What I don’t understand is why some artists feel the need to abandon their roots and seem embarrassed of their early collections, which created their rabid fanbases. Looking at Tyler & Sturgill specifically! Not every album will be Purgatory, but the offended defensive reactions when you lay this, mostly steaming pile, on us is hard to fathom. Album has some highs, but many serious lows. As others have mentioned, if this was his first album, I believe it would be much more widely appreciated. Just disappointed, as what I view to be the best songs on the album have been in his repertoire for years.
July 26, 2025 @ 2:55 pm
As I read Trigger’s reviews on Tyler Childers and Cody Jinks it is clear to me that Joe Stamm has a chance to win album of the year and that makes me happy!
July 26, 2025 @ 2:58 pm
Jink’s album was strong though to me, definitely a good album by Cody! Tyler’s is exactly what Trigger says it is, Thanks for all the reviews Trigger! I greatly appreciate this website so much!
July 26, 2025 @ 3:16 pm
Thanks for reading Adam.
July 26, 2025 @ 3:16 pm
When Sturgill released Passage, lots hated it. Some loved it. I said this then. I say it now. It’s art. Love it or hate it, it’s art. Appreciate it and critique it.
Remember artists don’t write songs for us. They write them because they are artists. When artists create for the masses, we get Luke Bryan and Kane Brown. Be careful what some of you ask for.
July 28, 2025 @ 6:27 am
This is probably the best comment in this whole section.
July 26, 2025 @ 3:21 pm
I like the songs fine but quite frankly the noise is unlistenable to me. I have a high end system and the compression is just awful.
July 26, 2025 @ 3:34 pm
Re: Indians. I always heard the phrase “feathered Indians” in that song to actually be crude/naive on purpose. The Young Tyler character doesn’t have the hicklib wherewithal to avoid the term. Isn’t that the larger point of the song?
The silly puff piece just comes across as embarrassing to me quite honestly.
July 29, 2025 @ 5:18 pm
Man, I think that was just what was on his belt buckle. Plenty of those buckles for sale on roadsides throughout Appalachia, my brother had one.
July 26, 2025 @ 3:39 pm
Already mentioned this in other places but I got NO problems with pushing envelopes. This IS Modern Alt Country and I couldn’t be happier it’s going somewhere new. Where its going, I don’t know but whinney ass curmudgeons can kiss Tyler and Rick Rubin’s buttocks.
July 26, 2025 @ 3:45 pm
Album is piss
July 26, 2025 @ 4:30 pm
This review is far more flattering than I can be. Rick Rubin is great but rock sounds don’t mix with Tyler Childers voice. It’s not why we liked him any more than why we liked Eminem before Rick Rubin ruined that project as well.
Facts are if there’s no Sturgill Simpson, there’s no Tyler Childers music worth anything meaningful. Sad to say as a massive fan of Tyler. But this album is complete trash from a country music standpoint.
July 26, 2025 @ 4:54 pm
On this record an insolent Tyler Childers is showing his contempt for his original fans, if not for fame itself. This was not made to be a good album. It is a deliberate shit sandwich; and spitefully so.
Childers is still annoyed about fans who vocally parted ways when he let old Silas House turn what was largely Geno Seale’s song “In your Love” into a backdrop for an absurd video about a couple of coal mining gays. Childers was tricked into it, being all but promised a Grammy, which didn’t materialize. He was made to look a fool.
The album has zero soul, which is why “Soul Killer,” Rick Rubin was brought in.
The two slices of familiar bread, Nose on the Grindstone and Oneida were used to trick people. But the sandwich filling is utter shit. These songs are all old throwaways, not new songs. Rubin’s production obnoxiously worsens them.
There is a formula behind all of this. Comeback records are bigger paydays the more bad albums there are between them, provided there is an ongoing lucrative live show that doesn’t need new songs just yet.
Sobriety is another element. Being sober creates a theoretically long game plan which means more deliberately shitty product can be gas-lit into sales; call it the Willie Nelson approach.
But ultimately, this album is dripping with Tyler’s palpable contempt for sobriety. His comeback will be called something like Off the Wagon. Such is the nature of so-called “addiction” and its relation to the jealous muse.
July 26, 2025 @ 4:54 pm
I’ve been listening to it nonstop. I find a lot to like — I can’t wait to hear “Eatin’ Big Time” live — and also a lot to digest, but I agree that the production and mixing is uneven. I wonder if some of that could be attributed to the fact that production was credited to Rick Rubin but also Nick Sanborn of the indie pop group Sylvan Esso as well as Childers. According to the GQ profile, Childers sent tracks to Sanborn because he wanted the album to be “weirder” and encouraged him to “go harder.” Maybe Sanborn and Childers went too weird.
That said, I don’t hear it as *that* radical of a departure from the sounds of Purgatory or Country Squire, especially considering the different directions of Long Violent History and Can I Take My Hounds to Heaven.
I think it’s better and more country than Cowboy Carter.
July 26, 2025 @ 7:31 pm
“I think it’s better and more country than Cowboy Carter.”
That’s not a particularly high bar…
July 26, 2025 @ 11:24 pm
I disagree. Cowboy Carter was a travesty of an album, and a millstone around our necks for a year when we should have been talking about better albums, but Beyonce whatever she is, isn’t one to just throw trash out there. She spent massive amounts of time and money on that album. She wanted it to sound amazing. And while I absolutely hated cowboy Carter and how it was treated by critics as the best “country” album of the year, it sounded amazing sonically meaning if you are richer than god as she is, she can hire the best producer and mixers on planet earth. So it sounds great.
With Tyler’s album though, it sounds like complete shit. Not just the lyrics and music itself but the actual sound of the album the sound of it, the mixing and mastering and recording sounds like absolute horseshit. His vocals sound distant, the instruments are poorly mic-ed and in a few songs I can literally hear stiching of various takes together as in I can hear mid verse them switch from one take to the next. That stuff shouldn’t be audible to an audience. The packaging on the album itself is a debacle. I got the vinyl and i opened it and in the gatefold were staples, literal fucking staples, in the creases flying out onto my floor. The vinyl color and the artwork seems half assed in ways that are completely shocking.
This is poorly put together from the start and I’m shocked it got past quality control.
July 27, 2025 @ 7:02 am
Though I wouldn’t be as harsh on Tyler’s album, I agree with this. The issue with “Cowboy Carter” was not sonic quality, it was the arguments over genre. Otherwise, it was a well-made album for what it was, which was a pop/r&b album with some fleeting country inflections.
July 26, 2025 @ 5:11 pm
Dunno, I’m really enjoying this. My first impression was that it’s his best and most cohesive work since Purgatory, and repeated listens so far haven’t disproven it. We’ll see if you guys managed to spoil it for me 😉
July 26, 2025 @ 5:28 pm
In my opinion, this album is garbage. Really disappointing.
July 26, 2025 @ 5:35 pm
Dudes undeniably talented, but I just can’t with the woke dei horseshit he peddles. Not playing feathered Indians because Indians offends white liberal women is horseshit. Real Indians have no issue with it just like they had no issue with the braves or redskins.
Childers unfortunately has become Isbell-lite. Moralizing, snide, and lecturing the audience who come here for the music not to be told who to vote for. I didn’t need to be told to support a drug addicted felon like fentanyl flood in 2020, because I never once supported him. Chavin did nothing wrong. I also found it hilarious Childers took time to say well what would you do if it was white rednecks getting shot by police instead of felon black scholars? Ignoring the fact of the matter which is the “unarmed blacks” bullshit is pulled because armed whites are actually more likely to be shot by police than anyone else.
Childers ruined his legacy. Instead of dropping another classic after his first 3 he went woke and sjw and alienated half the country. It’s bullshit. I didn’t get into country music to be told how to vote.
Our nation. Our country, our traditions and our culture are sacred. Whether that was the Carter family, or Hank or George Washington or Johnny cash. It’s important to push back boldly against those who seek to destroy our way of life and our traditions. We have to become loud about it. Otherwise Childers or Karen Morris or Isbell get to decide how country music is remembered or how it asserts and presents itself in our culture.
For the last decade or more leftist radicals have attempted to hijack our music and transform it, retcon it, remake it into some Marxist haven. That should be pushed back on, and anyone pushing such ideology needs to be forced out of the industry, needs to be blacklisted and people like trigger need to not talk about them. It should not be ok to hold those beliefs in polite society. Those people need to be deported and removed from our country and have their rights stripped from them, and legal action needs to begin on them. They need to be forced out of their professions and fired immediately. Anyone who supports dei racist bullshit in the industry needs to be fired and fined and ultimately imprisoned.
The whole point of the ideology Childers is professing is to hollow out country music and wear its skin like a trophy. I’ll be damned if that’s the way things end up.
I’m so fucking tired of being told how my music is supposed to align politically or socially. Motherfucker you joined OUR scene. You don’t get to dictate how any of this goes. Beyonce doesn’t get to tell us how country moves forward. WE decide and without her input. Fuck off with that woke bullshit. We need to make clear who is wanted here and who is not. If you are not wanted here in the industry, we need to make that crystal clear to the person, by firing them and imprisoning them.
I’m tired of celebrating scholarly felons who hold guns to pregnant women and then swallow meth, fentanyl and coke and somehow they are heroes. Why? Because they refused to follow the officers lawful orders and comply? Fuck that.
If your ideology is dei woke sjw diversity hire bullshit get the fuck out of my country, get the fuck out of my country music and get the fuck out of our culture. We don’t want you here. Alligator Alcatraz and gitmo them all. And that moment can’t come soon enough.
We all will cheer loudly as it happens.
July 26, 2025 @ 6:40 pm
Congratulations, you wrote a political screed about an album that doesn’t have really anything to do with politics at all. It does, however, vaerify my theory that it was the viral “Feathered Indians” quote that poisoned the well for this album before a note was heard.
July 26, 2025 @ 6:57 pm
Nah. The album material itself poisoned the well — purposefully. That is why “The Poisoner” Rick Rubin was brought in.
Tyler wasn’t about to throw good songs to him. He gave him backwash described as new songs. Rubin got played. The label got played: Tyler’s revenge for the Grammy gambit and the forced sobriety.
Tyler doesn’t care. He doesn’t need a hit.
July 26, 2025 @ 7:49 pm
There has been a standing theory that Childers has been feeding RCA subpar material because he’s pissed off at his deal. Not sure how much water it holds. Rick Rubin doesn’t work for cheap. Would seem like an unnecessary expense if you’re playing the label.
July 27, 2025 @ 9:04 am
The label picked Rubin.
The more dogs Tyler can make under current contract the better the comeback.payoff.
Neil Young did something similar.
July 26, 2025 @ 7:19 pm
Do you think the negative reaction to sturgills latest, and Isbells latest had anything to do with politics?
How about whenever aldean, or John rich or kid rock or Travis tritt or Coffey Anderson release albums?
The most recent example is Morgan’s newest. It’s clear a lot of the hatred was because he is openly conservative coded. Openly religious. And openly anti pc.
You are a smart dude. You saw the articles, vox and my magazine ran articles about “can we be liberals and be fans of Morgan”?
I admit I made a political screed. But Childers isn’t non political. He easily could just say nothing at all outside making music. He chose to do a major interview with a major outlet and make things political, and said things half the country will hate. He also chose to virtue signal. Removing offensive language isn’t important, and for him to act like it is is delusional at best and mentally ill at worst.
We as a customers and fans of the genre need to be able to call this bullshit out. If you are unwilling to, you aren’t doing your job for the fullest, trigger.
A major part of Morgan’s latest was politics, in that those who listen to it are viewed as dumb, racist nazis by half the other country. That’s reality. Obviously it’s bullshit but that’s a real narrative out there.
If Childers refuses to speak on politics and I was busting in here as I did that’s one thing. But the problem is, Childers, Karen morris, Isbell and Sturgil make politics the foremost part of their personality. If that’s your choice and it’s their choice, expect some real pushback from those of us who think those views are dangerous and evil.
July 26, 2025 @ 7:23 pm
I’m kind of baffled you’d think his viral Indians quote wouldn’t cause a fuss and upset a lot of people. Literally last week the sitting president talked about the name controversy not of Tyler but of sports teams. And it upset a lot of people. Needless to say I agree with the president but you are acting like this is some needle in a haystack thing we pulled out of our ass to go against Tyler. Tyler literally picked something trump has posted about about 5 days ago. If you insert yourself in culture war issues like Tyler did, I don’t know what to tell ya, dude. Tyler spoke about an issue that’s of upmost importance to the president enough to where he took time out to truth about it.
And you think that’s not going to be viewed as political?
Fuck that.
July 26, 2025 @ 7:38 pm
Didn’t you just write 4 fucking paragraphs in your review on politics?
Fuck off with that congratulations sarcasm trigger
July 26, 2025 @ 7:47 pm
Yes, I wrote 4 paragraphs of how the “Feathered Indians” revelation lead to this album being politically incited, which led to your comment.
July 26, 2025 @ 8:00 pm
So why were you snooty when I posted and said “congrats, on making a political screed about an album that has no politics?”. Maybe would have lended to more kindness had you admitted then “yeah I wrote 4 fucking paragraphs on politics, I get why you post about politics in an album that has no politics”’. For an album that has no politics, kind of strange it wouldn’t just be a line or two, you literally wrote 4 fucking paragraphs on the political aspect of it.
I’m confused why you’d confront me on making it political. You did, trigger.
Don’t post about politics if you don’t want politics discussed.
Fucking asshole.
July 26, 2025 @ 8:06 pm
Because the album has no politics. The whole point of those 4 paragraphs was to point out how politics got injected into this conversation.
July 26, 2025 @ 8:28 pm
Maybe, but I just thought you acted douchey by going “wait, why are you bringing up politics in this, congrats writing about politics when this has nothing to do with politics”.
Kind of felt like you were mocking me and being an asshole. And you were, trigger.
Would have been kinder to maybe acknowledge why I was ranting about politics. Given you knew exactly why I was. You don’t think those 4 paragraphs would cause people to write on here about politics?
Would be nice to have someone who stands up for commenters instead of acting like a massive fucking prick.
If someone writes about politics on a review for the new Ernest album I get it. Post how that’s out of line. Ernest doesn’t write political songs .
But you acting surprised, and mocking me and doing so in a cunty way, not really becoming of you, trigger.
Next time maybe think why people post the way they do. I didn’t just post about politics to screw with you. I posted because YOU did. You spent 4 paragraphs talking about politics.
Maybe take your head out of your ass and think next time, dude.
July 27, 2025 @ 2:17 am
He’s written about 25 of these incredibly verbose screeds in the comments of this album alone.
It’s propaganda & needs to be called out for what it is. It’s a public forum; therefore, having a “take” is fine….different strokes, yadda yadda.
But when you write 20 times in comments of 500+ words – railing on woke-ism – on the SAME ARTICLE, you’re pushing propaganda, not earnest music review & honest or inviting discourse.
It’s not my forum, so it’s not my call – but I”d put commenters like this on notice – whatever their agenda may be – when they’re not seeking to add to fruitful conversation, but rather, poison it.
July 27, 2025 @ 7:07 am
Believe it or not, I’ve deleted multiple of his comments here too for redundancy and length.
July 27, 2025 @ 11:16 am
beta cuck misses the irony of his handle being what it is while being so obviously triggered by the politics of Childers et al, which never really overtly bleed into their music.
I think you’re dead on with your review here Trigger, both the album and the way the extremes of both ends (haters/lovers) are falling over themselves to tell everyone about it.
July 26, 2025 @ 6:45 pm
Jag off. Crawl back into your magat bunker.
July 26, 2025 @ 7:11 pm
You sound like Joe Biden.
July 26, 2025 @ 8:26 pm
Thank you for the compliment!
July 26, 2025 @ 7:30 pm
Hate to break the news to you Steve, but we won the house, senate, and White House, the electoral and the popular vote. We don’t have to crawl back into our bunkers anymore or even hide or cower. The American public voted us in. You act like we are a fringe group. We rejected your Marxist woke ideology in November. Fuck off, prick, We voted him in to do what he’s doing now and he won’t ever be stopped. Ever.
July 26, 2025 @ 8:04 pm
When is the pedo going to release the Epstein files?
July 26, 2025 @ 8:08 pm
That’s it folks! No more political comments here unless they directly pertain to this album. Thank you.
July 26, 2025 @ 7:00 pm
If I was on the fence or anywhere near it, your take would have pushed me in a difference direction completely. The language makes you sound.dumb. I promise that I am not criticizing here even though it sounds like it.
July 28, 2025 @ 6:27 am
Calm your tits.
July 28, 2025 @ 10:32 am
JFC shut the fuck up
July 26, 2025 @ 5:40 pm
I usually tend to like the stuff you dismiss. Makes sense. Good luck with your narrow and limited taste in music.
July 26, 2025 @ 6:38 pm
Wouldn’t characterize this as a “dismissal” at all. A dismissal would imply this release is meaningless. It might be one of the most important releases all year. That’s why I brought a lot of time and effort to this review to try to parse through and rise above a lot of the polarization surrounding the release.
July 26, 2025 @ 9:56 pm
Not sure that’s accurate. Even among country enthusiasts the buzz of the album isn’t because it’s loved by critics and fans. The reason it’s a hot topic is because the reaction by everyone is the same as that guy who reviewed a similarly bizarre album of Bob Dylan in 1971, with “what is this shit?” Tyler is obviously a huge deal and significant figure but much like the sturgill album and the Isbell album, does anyone still talk about either of those albums by equally lauded artists? In fact I disagree that you were dismissive, and were way more positive than the album warranted. He’s a faded artist. Washed up. Can he come with a banger of an album next time? Sure. But you ain’t gonna do it with the horseshit he’s been putting out lately. He hasn’t put out a song of the quality of All Yourn in many years. Is anything on this album even remotely of that quality? No.
He’s a burn out.
July 26, 2025 @ 7:50 pm
My musical collection has Mozart, Sabbath, Hank Sr, Hank Jr, Miles, Skynyrd, NWA, Yes, the Dead, No Doubt, the Beatles, Aretha, Waylon, Turnpike, Petty, Genesis (Gabtiel-era), Genesis (Collins-era), Buffett, Beethoven, Slayer, Rodriguez, The Clash, Widespread, Chicago, Garth, the Allmans, the Smiths, Billy Joel, Les Claypool’s Flying Frog Brigade, J.P. Sousa, the Beastie Boys, ELP, ELO, Brubeck, REM, Muddy, Dylan… and Tyler Childers.
Because I turned it off about 2/3 of the way through, I guess that means I also have a “narrow and limited taste in music.”
July 28, 2025 @ 8:34 am
Wild take. Trigger has about the most eclectic taste in music you can find for a country music reviewer.
July 26, 2025 @ 6:13 pm
1. Whitehouse Road diehard fans will never like this. I will simply never buy that he is turning on his fan base with this endeavor. I simply imagine that he is bored with the simplicity of the type of tunes that made him big.
2. I think the people that are criticizing the production of the album might be right or might be wrong and 20 lessons will decide (for the people that hate this album and will never revisit it, no need to check in on that because we already know you hate it). I think it is too soon to determine if that was a success or failure to be fair.
3. My only critique of this review is that it seems to lean toward and understanding of what Trig thinks Tyler Childers is rather than potentially (and I say that humbly) is at this time and place.
4. I do not see this as self indulgent at all.
5. Oneida and the Australia tunes are the weakest on the album and if my saying that about the former angers you, see #1 above.
6. His melodies are so mature and creative. Three chords and the truth is amazing to me considering that Billy Joe is my favorite ever, but this album is so intelligent in that regard.
7. I fully get that this review had to come so soon on this site because of the heft he carries and how different it is from the norm, but I would love to see how it would differ if it was a reviewed a month from now.
8. I fully understand that I am a man on an island with this, but I am so incredibly bored with the troubadours right now even though I was die hard years ago and the reason is that they’re simply has been very little progression and growth and as a result, I have to give this album a 8.1/10.
July 26, 2025 @ 6:43 pm
I agree that time is always the greatest arbiter of music. It will be interesting to see where this album lands in the pantheon in the long term.
July 26, 2025 @ 9:51 pm
I totally disagree. It’s a shit album. You don’t need time to see that. In 20 years people aren’t going to be saying this is an album we overlooked. Anyone saying otherwise is just engaging in cope. Sometimes, most times actually artists come out the gate with great albums then lose steam. A lot of artists in the discussion here have the same issue so he’s not alone.
But no, I don’t think in 2055 we will look back and go, gee those 3 albums post country squire were unfairly maligned.
Sometimes artists create shit. Tyler did with this album
July 26, 2025 @ 7:33 pm
Them pearls clutched ain’t they trigger 😉
July 26, 2025 @ 8:01 pm
Shut it, Moon.
July 27, 2025 @ 9:28 am
God Almighty, Adam
July 26, 2025 @ 7:37 pm
I once co-ran the largest Americana group on Facebook. I don’t miss it. Bullshit like this is why.
July 26, 2025 @ 7:56 pm
Why is Childers like this though? He’s one of the biggest artists of his generation, brought so many people to the genre. Has among the most passionate fanbase we’ve seen in a long time, is shouted out by artists who you’d never guess were fans like Olivia Rodrigo.
Yet he screws the pooch by acting in bizarre ways. Long disappearances from music. Bizarre and strange albums with instrumental music or 7 tracks. Were Childers fans openly calling for instrumental music in 2020 cause I sure as fuck didn’t. Makes political statements in bold and italics, in an industry and genre and a nation that disagrees with him. Even his speeches at award shows are rants about issues.
I think artists get to a place and Childers has been there for awhile where they think just because they have a good album or series of albums then they translates to them thinking society and our country as a whole care about who they voted for and they we want to be lectured to about it.
Nose on the grindstone was a huge hit for years prior, all your’n, shake the frost, Whitehouse roasted are all great tunes.
Their quality has nothing to do with their sentiments about politics or social and racial justice or homelessness or the Middle East. Because none of the lyrics on those are political.
Very similar to Margo price. Instead of an up and coming new artist, she became the woke snowflake who uses her music and platform to shove horseshit dei down our throats. No thanks, y’all
A huge part of the backlash is people are sick and fucking tired of being told and lectured about politics in everything. All he had to do was release the album. My rant wouldn’t have occurred. Instead he spoke on feathered Indians in the same fucking week trump truthed about Indian names in sports teams.
If you’re scratching your head why there would be pushback towards Childers in regards to this, that’s on you my man.
July 26, 2025 @ 9:15 pm
You think an intelligent artist is going to have nothing to say, especially now? Get real. Art has always been political. And Childers is an artist, not just an entertainer.
July 26, 2025 @ 10:37 pm
Let’s compare then, shall we. Morgan also has things to say. How did his new album do? What was it like 2 straight months at number one? And it’s not done yet. Will no doubt return.
How do you think this album will do Domenic’s wise? Given what you’ve seen not only from the general public but also die hard Tyler fans. Are they going to steam the shit out of this album? Or are they just going to stream all yourn again for the 3000th time like they have been?
You tell me?
One artist is the most successful artist of our lifetime.
The other has put out shit for. 3 album cycles of things not even his fans say is his best work.
July 26, 2025 @ 11:05 pm
Well he can have his thoughts. We have ours. I think the response to the album is the loudest of all. It’s a flop, already. Hard to spread a message if the people aren’t buying it, literally and figuratively. If the songs were actually of quality he’d be doing well. The material is shit.
July 26, 2025 @ 7:37 pm
Trigger literally wrote 4 paragraphs on politics in this his review. 4! And then gets pissy when people discuss the political aspect of Tyler.
Fuck you.
July 26, 2025 @ 8:37 pm
Trigger is a prick
July 27, 2025 @ 3:04 pm
Your rant was a thing of beauty and within it is much to agree with, but now you’re being a right knob head.
Don’t abuse the host and maybe lay off the sauce.
July 30, 2025 @ 5:04 pm
Cut him some slack, Slack.
July 26, 2025 @ 8:52 pm
The central melody of the chorus from “Cuttin Teeth” is driving me crazy cause it sounds like the chorus from some other older country song, maybe by Cash? I can’t place it. Any country fans want to help me out?
July 27, 2025 @ 4:19 pm
That melody is probably pretty common but my mind immediately went to Hank Jr’s “The American Way,” right down to the key change.
July 28, 2025 @ 8:19 am
That’s not the one I was thinking of. There’s something in particular about the way Childers sings that reminds me of the exact way the chorus is sung of the song I’m thinking of.
I feel like it was a Cash song and then by the time of the third chorus, a group of singers joins in or something. Agh, driving me up the wall.
July 26, 2025 @ 8:56 pm
Can someone explain to me since I guess I broke a rule here that 4 paragraphs in the review weren’t allowed to be commented on. And that would cause trudger to be a dick to me and act like he didn’t know why I brought it up. Why would I bring up 4 paragraphs of his review. How could I do such a thing? The nerve I have of commenting on his article.
So what’s the rule, vets here? Can we comment on 50 percent of the reviews? 20 percent? Is 4 paragraphs not being commented on the limit or can some reviews have 5 paragraphs we can’t comment on?
What’s the dealio? Would love input on how to post, given I broke a serious rule today.
I read the review and commented on 4 paragraphs of it. A no no, of course. How could I have been so stupid. I was under the impression all the review was fair game to comment on. Now I see how wrong I was.
Please advise!
July 26, 2025 @ 9:15 pm
This is your FOURTH comment on the four paragraphs, and your 11th comment overall. You have successfully veered the discussion into politics, and completely bogged down this comments section. Congratulations. Now respectfully, move on.
July 26, 2025 @ 9:36 pm
I mean you could go to the Whiskey Riff Facebook page because your Shapiro act is stale as hell. The paragraphs are appreciated though.
July 26, 2025 @ 11:33 pm
Dude, it’s the weekend! Haven’t you got anything better to do than post replies to yourself? Go and touch grass.
July 26, 2025 @ 9:36 pm
Two guns up on this review.
July 26, 2025 @ 11:37 pm
I’m done with him and his music. I’m over it. I’m disappointed in him and how he’s conducted his life. I’m sad he chose to treat us this way. I’m angry at us for thinking he was worth supporting. I’m pissed at critics for hyping up his work. I’m furious at his label for allowing him to release a garbage album. I’m mad at fans for enabling him. I’m sick of being told we are getting amazing songs when we don’t get them. I’m sick of his evasive and reclusive actions towards us and the world.
I’m just done with listening to his music. I’m let down, I’m furious. I’m pissed. Im heartbroken he wasted his gift.
I plan on never listening to this or any of his albums again, because it’s a travesty.
I don’t want to listen to Tyler anymore. Ever.
We need to boycott him, his merch, label and concerts.
Also we should peacefully protest his shows anytime he does play. Show up with comments on shirts or have signs saying how you feel. Get loud.
I think a mass protest and boycott of him needs to concur. Who wants to join?
I’d be willing to be facilitator for some areas and then you all could be captains in your own.
What do you say? Sit ins and non violent civil disobedience at all Tyler events?
July 30, 2025 @ 7:04 am
Just don’t listen. Why invest energy in to it beyond that?
~going against the crowd is still not thinking for yourself~
July 26, 2025 @ 11:40 pm
Anyone want to do Peaceful protests and sit ins against this album?
July 26, 2025 @ 11:57 pm
In all honesty though. I do hope he gets all the praise for the album. It seems like it’s a labor of love as opposed to going for hit songs which I respect. Any artist worth supporting fits that profile and he is one of them. Poachers and bitin list are two of the most animated songs and vibes he’s had in years and I think he’s assembled a great band of fellow music lovers with the food stamps. Dudes can freakin jam! Only song I didn’t actually enjoy was down under. But after a few more listens it’s already a bop.
I don’t think it reaches the heights of bibles, but he’s no longer that Tyler. And I respect that. He challenges the listener and fans and we always get something new which I also enjoy.
I hope he continues to make music he wants to, even if the fanbase objects. He’s an artists artist. I actually don’t think his quality has declined all that much. He’s still an amazing artist and puts out incredible work.
I will continue to spin this and can see myself liking it more and more. It’s one of the better country albums of the year so far.
Thanks Kyle for the article and review. I find I usually agree with your takes but I would actually slightly disagree but with me I’d be a tad more positive towards the album. Theres some great stuff there that calls back to classic Tyler we all love and I think you are right in a few years we probably will all be clamoring for this version of him, whenever he moves to make the next sound jump to whatever he’s planning sonically.
I think Tyler is a generational artist and we need to appreciate his work. We could be left with mainstream slop, instead he gives us challenging work, that’s not immediate. Takes some time to warm up to. And I like that. Means it means a lot more.
Thanks for the music Tyler and thanks to Kyle for shining the light!
July 30, 2025 @ 7:05 am
oh lol
July 27, 2025 @ 12:09 am
And good god has his voice ever sounded better than on this album? How can he improve his vocals like that? Very impressive. He has an almost van Morrison esque way of making his voice do things and push himself to vocally that are kind of rare in modern music.
No one sounds better letting their voice just rip free and soar in the spaciousness of a track. A growl, or just how lyrical his vocals float around like on a boat, up and down. Hypnotic.
No one sounds like him or at least no one can compare to his vocal range or style in terms of this newer generation that he inspired.
Looking forward to getting a vinyl soon.
I feel like the people who dislike or hate the album will warm up to it. And live of course is where he shines, and has always shined. Most of these songs seemed designed for him and the food stamps to hang let loose and jam and have fun on stage. Love it.
July 27, 2025 @ 7:05 am
Yeah, respectfully disagree there. Tyler does sound great in some songs. Others, the production was catastrophic to presenting the performance well, and others he’s singing in keys he should never attempt. The vocals really are the greatest sin of this album’s production.
July 27, 2025 @ 8:03 am
That is an interesting take. I actually thought that it was one of the strongest parts of the album. When he is going too low and obviously struggling to get there, for example, the tone was beautiful to my ears in a way I can’t explain. I think this is awesome because taste is different for each of us. I think that Conor Oberst’s vocals, for example, are far better in my ears than Stapleton.
I do like how for the most part folks are respectful in their disagreements about this album. I don’t recall an album that was as polarizing than this one in recent history.
July 27, 2025 @ 12:13 am
Thank you trigger for putting up work all of us and for making such a great site. We don’t say it enough but we appreciate you. A lot of us wouldn’t have heard of so many of our favorite artists without this site. An institution of a site and lots of our daily fix in terms of sites.
Love this album. And thanks trigger!
July 27, 2025 @ 6:34 pm
Same for me. Trigger has given me A Heads Up on so much Great Music. 👍
July 27, 2025 @ 12:47 am
…i would have hoped for a little more – but it’s alright.
July 27, 2025 @ 1:42 am
I like it! It’s not his old stuff, but it’s still undeniably Tyler. Enjoyed it more and more each listen. Give it a few more spins and see if your opinion changes. Lots of good vocals and musicianship on here
July 29, 2025 @ 6:00 am
…after further careful consideration i tend to agree that this is a most enjoyable album. potential aoty contender, i feel now.
July 27, 2025 @ 2:15 am
Watch out and Down under are filler IMO and the levels of compression and limiting / production in general are a bit much but overall I think its a strong album. Hes clearly going for something other than traditional country here. Put down the axe, Pete.
July 27, 2025 @ 5:22 am
I like some of Tyler’s songs but am not a fanatic and/or emotionally invested in him as an artist. I only listened to this once and will probably listen to it again down the road once I’m done with some other recent releases. My 1st perception of this album is that it sounded like an obligation versus a passion project.
July 27, 2025 @ 6:08 am
As I said in another comment section, Childers harbors a disdain for his heritage and upbringing.
Or he wants to make “art.”
“Art, like morality, consists of drawing the line somewhere.”
July 27, 2025 @ 10:45 am
I don’t get why he’s so pissed off though. Lots of artists in country music are naturally shy of wary of attention but still can remain good, kind and rational individuals. He’s one of the more successful of his generation and you always hear up and coming country artists name drop him. It reeks of resentment, rage, anger and whatnot. I can understand shying away from fame and the Hollywood scene he’s no doubt been approached by, and think for his own sanity his decision to remove himself from that glamor and glitz lifestyle is wise. But there’s a difference between, I’m not interested I just like a quiet life with my family, and what he does which is to give fans and all of us the middle finger. Like he’s had some awful existence and we all must suffer because of it. It’s kind of gross.
You can carve your own path in the world and in the genre without disdain for it and all of us. And you can make statements about issues without it coming across as narcissistic, egotistical and preachy. He seems to be able to do none of that,
Mostly he seems ungrateful, which is a quality that is very detestable. As I said, there’s a way to say, not for me not thank you about the larger Nashville glitz and glamor scene he could have strode. His approach seems to have been to give the middle finger to everyone in the scene and told them off. That’s not really conducive to a working relationship in the industry and is plain rude. You are able to be unique and different and make music that challenges and experiments, all
while having respect for those in the industry and those fans who disagree. Not really understanding why he chooses to purposely alienate those in the industry who could be allies.
He comes across as a jerk as a result, who is needlessly aggressive to everyone and combative in a way that doesn’t need to occur.
I’m sure most if not all fans and industry people would and do understand his need and desire to be a private and quiet individual. He deserves and is within his right completely to ask for that. I just think it’s clear there is a wrong and right way to approach that and engage in that. And he has decided the wrong way. Hatred for your fan base and those industry people who helped along the way to make you successful is about the lowest thing any artist could ever do. I think he owes all of us and his team an apology.
July 29, 2025 @ 7:22 pm
I was about to argue with that other comment you made before this album was released. Glad I kept that to myself because you were correct.
July 27, 2025 @ 6:17 am
Man I love Saving Country Music and have for many, many years. But this comment section is why I stopped scrolling once I reached the end of your articles, and I should have stuck to that today. But since I’m here, I agree the album is kind of all over the place. I’ve been kind of treating the songs more like singles in my listening approach and it’s weird, but more enjoyable. Either way I still think Tyler has that “pure classic” album in him, and I’m down for the wait.
July 27, 2025 @ 6:54 am
Wow, this album is bad. And I’m not talking about when you complain about your favorite artist changing styles, or there only one or two good songs bad. This album is unlistenable. And I tried. On my computer initially, in my truck which has a pretty good stereo, blasting through my bluetooth speaker in the yard, and finally a full listen through headphones. The last being the worst experience. And this was Apple Music’s top Digital Master version.
I expressed my doubts when Trigger announced Rick Rubin would be producing this, and damn if I wasn’t right. Even the initial singles sounded wonky, but it was a bit hidden by the familiarity of the songs to fans. The overall sound of this album is muddled and off-putting.The mix is so over processed that it comes off sounding like it’s coming from a tv speaker. There is no air or brightness to the recording. Instruments are shoved to one side or the other, with most in the right most track, making the music sound lopsided. It’s especially noticeable with headphones. It reminds me of early 50s albums when they first discovered stereo sound and tried placing the drummer and bass on one side, and the singer and guitarist on the right. Only add a large number of instruments and sound effects to muddle everything up. Add to this cacophony over processed and filtered vocals, and you have yourself a hot mess.
I know many are using the examples above as reason to give Childers an out, to lay all the blame at the feet of Rubin. The songs are good they say, Rubin just screwed them up. But does the songwriting really matter if the presentation is awful?
Tyler Childers shoulders some, if not most of the blame for this album. He chose Rick Rubin, a guy known for helping faded superstars to find their groove again, not producing modern country albums for a guy who is near a superstar himself. Rubin is more of a motivation guy who helps artists rediscover the old fire than he is a studio wizard. And Childers no doubt was involved in the process of this album and approved of the results. And it was he who was singing off key and uninspired, not Rubin. If Childers was searching for someone to help him reignite his roots, a call to Sturgil would have made more sense. Maybe Dave Cobb if Sturgil is unavailable. Or how about a young and up and coming producer like Moze Wilson who just helped Sweet Meg release the best album of her career. Childers chose Rubin. A colossal mistake.
There are, and will be excuses galore for Tyler Childers. However, the fact is that he has now released double the number of duds than the awe inspiring first couple releases that built this following of fans protecting him. His name is on these releases, and time is running out for history to look back and say Tyler Childers was a certified superstar, or Tyler Childers was a two album phenom who’s talent faded away into dust. I’ve stopped holding my breath for the next great Tyler Childers album.
July 27, 2025 @ 8:26 am
Also quite disappointed here (all the way over here in Denmark).
I was also hoping he/they would include Song While You’re Away on the album. One of the best songs last year (and never spoken of anywhere, not even on this site…)
Trigger, do you know why they left it off (perhaps could not include it on the album, even though many songs from movie soundtracks often are included on the artists own albums later on)?
Thanks again for all your work on this great site (also helping us country fans out here in Europe 🙂
July 27, 2025 @ 9:41 am
I wouldn’t have expected “Song While You’re Away” to be on this album. I believe all of the songs on the Twisters sountrack were exclusive to the soundtrack, and since they really tried to push that as a standalone release, I’m sure there were contractual stipulations against artists releasing those songs elsewhere. The twisters soundtrack was Atlantic, while Tyler is signed to RCA.
July 27, 2025 @ 10:07 am
Yes. But on the other hand we just saw this with The Garden from the new Hunger Games soundtrack and SF’s recent deluxe version of the ToF album. Thanks for the quick reply.
July 27, 2025 @ 8:26 am
The most psychotic comment section this site has ever had?
July 27, 2025 @ 10:56 am
Eh, I think it was mostly just one dude (with two, maybe three screennames) having an adderall fueled, manic episode in the wee hours of the morning last night.
Not very fun to have to sift through though.
July 27, 2025 @ 6:38 pm
I’m thinking we should start a pool and buy him a fishing pole…Dude needs to seriously get outside for some air
July 28, 2025 @ 9:02 am
Zip it, Gnome.
July 27, 2025 @ 11:43 pm
Mental illness is real folks.
July 27, 2025 @ 11:27 am
Most not involving Justin Townes Earle at least
July 27, 2025 @ 11:25 am
A lot here for sure. We can call this Tyler Childers goes global if we want, and to me the album was a very uneven listen but still more memorable than Rustin in the Rain and refreshingly not as pretentious as Hounds to Heaven…
That being said there are a lot of swings and misses here… im sorry but Down Under is too cringe to listen to. A song about Koala syphilis may work for They Might Be Giants, but not Childers. In addition, Tomcat and the Dandy has a nice flow but the Hari Krishna in the background feels forced (or at least not well appropriated) but I at least always give Tyler for exploring new boundaries and taking deeper dives into spirituality. And I agree with trigger here. Theres something off about Tyler’s voice register here. He sings too low at times and it doesnt suit him as well
That being said there are good highlights on here. Watch Out is a great song with Tyler doing what Tyler does best, putting the listener into his eyes and describing the world around him with curiosity and detail. The lead single Oneida is a great love song and even though weve all heard nose on the grindstone for years, I liked its orchestration it got, with the ominous setting for the words.
All in all agree pretty much with trigger here. A album that ill take a few songs and put into rotation but not a great “listen through the whole album again and again” like Isbels Weathervanes
July 27, 2025 @ 4:05 pm
I have nothing to say that isn’t said in the review other than this (and, it was kinda already said in the review): I continue to respect him as an artist that is experimenting and evolving. He gives us the good ole country stompers with eatin’ big time and bitin’ list, and he strays into experimental territory with a lot of the others. I don’t love every song, but I really really like the album in its entirety.
July 27, 2025 @ 6:08 pm
Rick Rubin has always been a fraud. The emperor has no clothes. Nice beared though I guess.
July 27, 2025 @ 8:41 pm
I think Rubin is hit and miss. What he’s good at is helping older artists find that long lost inspiration that fueled their earlier glory days. When he worked with Black Sabbath the band members said they spent the first few days doing nothing but listening to their old albums and talking about what inspired them to make them. The band claimed it reignited them, and the album 13 was a good result. Everyone knows the Johnny Cash story and success.
That said, Rubin’s success with artists in their prime are sketchy at best. He was terrible choice for Childers in my opinion. Childers needed a competent producer who understands country roots music that could capture his talent. Not a life coach trying to capture his own vision.
July 27, 2025 @ 8:21 pm
As someone who hasn’t been into Tyler’s last few records (Take My Hounds and Rustin’ didn’t do much for me other than a song or two), this album is definitely getting me back to listening to Childers. Some weirdness, but generally good weirdness that works in context of the album.
Big fan… definitely my personal favorite from Tyler since Country Squire.
July 27, 2025 @ 9:43 pm
Welp, I thought after reading this review and some of the comments that I would be prepared for this album. But, WTF? I’ve been a huge TC fan since the beginning, but words fail me here. Most of this album is actually unpleasant to listen to. Trigger, I agree with your review that the production serves neither his vocals nor the songs. (And I have a soft spot for Rubenstein since he produced one of my favorite albums of all time, Tom Petty’s “Wildflowers”.) And the gratuitous profanity and quirky humor is veering into parody at this point. I don’t expect every album to be Purgatory or Country Squire (I actually loved SS “Passage du Dessir” btw) and I try to judge each album on it own merits- but this was a big miss for me.
I’ve seen Tyler Childers twice in the last two years and he has been fantastic. I can only hope that some of these songs sound better live.
July 27, 2025 @ 11:24 pm
Don’t know what to make of this review. On the one hand I was smiling like a pig in shit listening to this album through, I love it and can’t tell you how many times I’ve listened through already. On the other hand all the criticisms you make are ones I norrmally nod along too when other artists do similar. I generally hate too much production , especially in this genre.
This album just hit for me, and I think it’s because I’m a relative newby to country. This album scratched and hit on other genres I love. I think folks who have jumped on the bandwagon of the recent boom in quality country (of which I include myself) maybe are more prone to enjoy this than those bred on earlier iterations of the genre. I don’t for example enjoy Zach top *ducks incoming volley of abuse* as I don’t particularly enjoy the 90s country it references.
For me it’s a 9/10 album, and it’s not out of loyalty to TC, there’s plenty of acts ive loved who have released stuff that I haven’t enjoyed. There’s only 2 tracks on it I think dip a bit, I don’t love the vocal production on cuttin teeth, feels unnecessary, and down under feels like it should have been a fun genre bending one off single release between albums, that takes you out of the grove of the record a bit too far.
But tracked like the opener, watch Out, Snipe Hunt, and Poachers will be some of my all time TC favorites (not to mention Nose and Oneida)
This seems like a record that is going to be like vegemite. You love it or you hate it. One thing for sure, I think a lot of these tracks are going be awesome live.
July 28, 2025 @ 2:09 am
This album sucks
July 28, 2025 @ 4:28 am
Well, that was a long review. It seems that everyone has very clear opinions on Tyler and who he is and what he should do, that goes for Trigger as well as everyone in the comments. I’m not a huge Tyler fan, I like some of his stuff, other things I struggle with. He does have a unique voice and style of singing. I listened to this album after the reading the review here and I must say I just simply enjoyed it. Sounds to me like the guy wanted to rock for a bit and not play or sound like Appalachian folk music. And the production isn’t so bad, it explores some nice vintage soundscapes and gives Tyler room to experiment. To me this sounded simply like good fun, but, then again, I didn’t really have any expectations at all coming to it and Tyler Childers is not the God of music to me. 6.8 seems quite tough, I would give it a 7.8.
July 28, 2025 @ 6:57 am
I’ve listened a few times, I don’t think it’s all that bad.
I’m not a Tyler Childers fan, I’m also not a hater. He doesn’t really move the needle a whole lot for me which probably doesn’t make sense for country music fans today. Seems like everyone has to have an opinion about him and everyone has to have an opinion about this record. Haven’t seen a review approaching 200 comments on here in a long time.
One of the advantages of coming to country music later in life is that you’ve got the ability to look back over an artists career and delve into their catalog at whatever point you like. You’re not starting off with “Purgatory” and then waiting for the next album to drop and only having “Purgatory” to compare it to. You’re not matching “Snipe Hunter” against “Country Squire” and “Purgatory”. It’s also the advantage of not being a huge Tyler Childers fan…listening to a new album and not having expectations or preconceived notions about what the album should be is a nice place to be.
So that’s why I don’ t think it’s all that bad…because I really don’t care about Childers too much (though I’d like to see him live) and I really didn’t know what I wanted this album to be before listening to it.
I will also say, it’s appears to be hard for an artist to take risks or run the risk of being Zach Bryan (the same songs, the same sounds over and over). What Zach Bryan does works for Zach Bryan…but I don’t ever see him taking the risks that Childers just did on this album, that Sturgill has done throughout his career. He’s just gonna keep putting out mid-tempo songs with emotional lyrics; sweet enough for girls to wish they were written about them, but still manly enough for guys to vibe with, too.
But take risks like this and it can go bad. In this case I can’t help but think of Led Zeppelin, a band that took risks left and right, was slammed by critics throughout their career but obviously had droves of fas and were arguably the biggest band of the 70s. “Houses of the Holy” is an album that’s a big departure from anything else they’d previously done and it somehow worked.
Anyway, I don’t think it’s that bad of an album…I also don’t think it’s that great. I’ll probably listen to it a few more times and forget about it. I respect the guy for doing what he wants to do and not trying to deliver something he thinks people want to hear.
July 28, 2025 @ 8:08 am
Dropping in here to say that I’ve listened to the first few seconds to a handful of songs and have turned it off in favor of In My Blood. I recognize that that is not a fair assessment, and that I intend to listen to the album at work this week, but it will take some commitment from me because I’m simply disinterested. Tyler Childers has only done one thing truly wrong, in my opinion, and that is the supposed aversion to playing “Feathered Indians” live. I don’t mind that he follows his muse, but nothing since Country Squire has truly gripped my attention. I plan on someday re-visiting all of it, and hoping it grips me then like it hasn’t thus far. He’s an artist I want to support, but again, none of the more recent material grabs my attention.
July 28, 2025 @ 12:22 pm
Most of the way through Snipe Hunt now. It’s fine, but nothing I’m going to revisit regularly. I wouldn’t call it a miss, but like the article says, it’s somewhere between the ridiculous critical acclaim and the equally ridiculous “it sucks!” narrative.
I’ll revisit Purgatory and Country Squire on occasion and happily see Childers love any time. I’m OK with an artist making 2 iconic albums. Most struggle to make 1.
July 28, 2025 @ 12:32 pm
Also, the excessive swearing is really off-putting. He’s never been one to not swear in his lyrics, but it’s turned up way too much on this record.
July 28, 2025 @ 8:34 am
I got halfway through the album and then heard about koalas and chlamydia. I wasn’t feeling the album as a whole and stopped. I went back to Tyler, the Creator’s new album, it was the superior Tyler release of the week.
July 28, 2025 @ 11:41 am
Saw him live with Sturgill pre-covid and liked him enough to understand what the kids were excited about (the kids that literally half emptied the arena once Childers was done and they didn’t even stick around for Sturgill), checked out everything once I became aware, every album felt like “maybe he’ll get it next time”, but kept checking in.
I hate Rick Rubin with a vengeance, like Dangermouse he absolutely ruins 99% of what he gets involved in, came into this album actively ready to hate on it, and instead found myself ordering the vinyl before the first full play through had finished.
To me it honestly feels like he just finally found his stride as a rambling dude and made his first good record. It doesn’t feel uncohesive, it feels like he’s doing all the things he likes to do, all on one record for once.
July 28, 2025 @ 12:18 pm
Been enjoying this more and more given more listens and spins.
Favorite moments are cuttin teeth, just sounds like some 60s 70s style country rock that I love. And Oneida is just calming and peaceful.
This album is pretty good. Certainly not top tier Tyler but it’s an enjoyable listen and I think people just overreact because of the highs of his early career. It’s like every album nas releases will always be compared to Illmatic. Tyler will fall into that category too. This isn’t country squire and I don’t think it even aims to be.
July 28, 2025 @ 12:48 pm
My guess – and this is only a guess – is that tapping Rubin to produce was a continuation of the trend Childers started with In Your Love/Rustin in the Rain. Rubin is a well-connected music industry vet who can ensure this album will get put forward for major awards, and his team will get all the spins and promo necessary to drive the streaming and radio play up so the album is a commercial success. A few months from now there will probably be a vast gulf between how this album is regarded by outlets like Rolling Stone and the majority of readership here (there already is) and the fact that we’re already hearing how transformational it is from the nitwit guardians of the “culture” shows the success of this strategy.
As for the music itself, it frankly just doesn’t sound like Childers, if that’s even a thing one can say anymore. I can make out the semblance of his original sound and more traditional elements – fiddle, steel string, even some accordion. But there’s also this garage rock, dirty guitar and synth influence constantly bubbling up that pollutes it. I assume Rubin’s to blame but who knows – the result though is a sound that is less genuine country/folk Appalachia and more a bastardized form of it that has just enough of the elements to sound “exotic” to more mainstream ears but lacks the charm, sophistication, and frankly the clarity of his original sound.
Maybe Purgatory is the only album we’ll get of its kind, at least from Childers. It’s a shame – because to refine one’s craft authentically within the specific limitations of a given form yields far greater depth than casting about across different forms (especially when the artist him/herself is an old file, as I thought Childers to be). Childers is entitled to explore his creative muse as he pleases – but it doesn’t change the fact that his recent output has been a disappointment to most of us who understood and empathized with his original works. In this regard, the Feathered Indians SNAFU is not overblown in the slightest – it’s a beautiful, simple, and memorable song that he chose to politicize, even though he is the one who created it.
July 28, 2025 @ 1:01 pm
“the Feathered Indians SNAFU is not overblown in the slightest – it’s a beautiful, simple, and memorable song that he chose to politicize, even though he is the one who created it.”
Couldn’t agree more. Even though I wish this wasn’t the case, Tyler’s quote about a song that isn’t even on this album was the most catastrophic thing that could have been issued and gone viral on the eve of this album’s release. It very well might be the most important thing, even above the music itself. I strongly advise people to dismiss that and listen to this album itself. But obviously, I am facing stiff headwinds in that pursuit.
As far as the awards shows go, Tyler Childers has been nominated for 8 Grammys, and never won. With the new Best Traditional Album category, if he had made virtually any album but this one, it probably would have been nominated in that category, and probably would be a strong contender to win. Now, this probably gets sifted to “Americana,” and we all know how Childers feels about that term. It still might be a contender and win though. Or, the Grammys still nominate him in Best Traditional Country Album, and the country music public goes apoplectic.
July 28, 2025 @ 1:54 pm
That’s also why your comments to me about it when I posted were frankly fucking mental. I literally said, his comments defined the story and album. You said, congrats you ranted about politics of an album that isn’t political. Focus on the album please”.
Now, a few days later you post that his comments that I angrily posted about, that we were actually correct. The marketing via the GQ quote was horrendously dangerous, and actually hurt him in a way he’s never been hurt before. I don’t think you realized it because you refused to engage with the argument I was presenting. As republicans we listen to all music. Most artists are liberals and while I wish that weren’t the case, liberals do make amazing art. With a few exceptions like Isbell or Karen Morris, we mostly can look past it and enjoy the music for its art and ignore the politics that to us are ignorant or distasteful.
Unfortunately Tyler is another exception. It would be like him speaking out on Middle East policy right now. You don’t win whatever you say and you will lose by speaking out. He chose to speak out and will feel the force of vitriol in these comments and hopefully those who boycott his music. We are done.
Tyler crossed a line with those comments and conservatives won’t be streaming it and we aren’t getting over it.
This isn’t just bad marketing. It’s one of the most poorly marketed albums in country history, based solely on the GQ article. He could have Wall to wall articles and interviews lined up, and maybe does. But it was all undone with the GQ quote.
He ruined it. It’s not commenters on here who ruined it. TYLER did. Him and him alone.
We are so done with this woke bullshit. And I think maybe you yourself are now realizing it. It’s not some weirdo posting on the comments section you can tell lay off the politics. Focus on the album, bub.
No the politics is the album. Literally. The politics is the album, trigger
July 29, 2025 @ 12:06 am
What’s Native Americans have to do with
or being a poison pill for this roll out, you sound like a pissed off entitled white guy that got mad about a point of view his favorite singer made on why he can’t hear feathered Indians anymore at a concert, feathered Indians isn’t on the tracking list what’s the point of mentioning it? He’s not being bullied y anybody to make these comments, he’s been out there on these reservations living life and enjoying it, why come at that angle and be bitter
July 29, 2025 @ 7:03 am
I absolutely in no way said that Native Americans were the poison pill for this rollout, and it’s ridiculous that someone would assert that. As I said in the review and I will reiterate it at any point, people should put any political biases aside and listen to the music for what it is. But the simple fact is the “Feathered Indians” quote was taken out-of-context from the GQ feature, turned into a megaviral meme by Country Central, Country Chord, Whiskey Riff, and others, and created an extremely polarizing political environment for “Snipe Hunter” to be released in.
For the record, Saving Country Music was the first, and offered perhaps to most in-depth coverage of Tyler Childers and his work with Native American tribes last year when I traveled to Montana to cover the Indian relay races and Tyler’s fundraiser for the Blackfeet tribe.
https://savingcountrymusic.com/this-is-why-tyler-childers-played-a-benefit-for-the-blackfeet-tribe/
https://savingcountrymusic.com/tyler-childers-blackfeet-tribe-shine-on-a-cloudy-day-in-montana/
July 29, 2025 @ 1:13 pm
They aren’t a poison pill, the point is as you said, feathered Indians has nothing to do with this album, it’s a decade old song. So why bring it up in an interview at all? Why not just decide internally in the band and within his team to never play it again. What need was there to make a public statement at all. Had he said in that interview, I know the song is beloved but I’m done playing it, we’d all understand. It’s understandable some bands get tired of being asked to play their hits when they want to play new material. But that’s not what he did. He spoke publicly about politics being the reason for not playing it again. That’s very different, and him giving that reason will obviously create a major dustup.
I don’t think he was pressured because I don’t think either side politically gave a fuck about the supposed offensive language of the song, like ever. Not when it came out and not now.
Over the years there have been some shocking and at times genius ways artists have used the media, and attention to get famous or promote all types of products. This is not one of those examples.
I think Tyler has a big heart and tries to do what’s right for him and those around him. There’s certainly worse individuals in the industry. And he’s clearly a huge figure of his generation and has impacted country music in ways that are profound. But that still doesn’t make the marketing of the album make sense in any way shape or form.
The politics have overshadowed the music in this case. And that’s not what we want or need.
There are country artists who I’d love to see get political, in overt ways, fly flags, speak clearly about the “side” they are on politically, but you just don’t do that.
Country is conservative but I think the larger public forgets how unpolitical the industry actually is. It’s generally viewed as bad pr by bands own teams to speak out about politics even if they know the larger industry agrees. The amount of openly trump supporting artists in country is shockingly low, it’s the handful we all know and everyone else is quiet. I know of a few who joined truth social and left, probably warned by their marketing team it’s bad practice to be partisan. Very few country artists posted about trump immediately after the butler attempt, and several posted but deleted right after. They all know to be partisan is going to cause some fans on the opposite side to leave the fanbase.
There are definitely open conservatives and liberals in our scene but they are the exception not the rule. Most artists in country don’t comment on politics at all, one way or the other. And even those who do comment, most do so sparingly and occasionally as opposed to constantly updating us on the state of their activism. And most do so in the personal capacity as a private citizen and don’t engage in terms of their public persona and lives.
I think the main reason why all of this is done this way is because all musicians want as large an audience as possible, they want everyone to listen or give the music a chance. And if you express partisan politics that creates a reason for someone not to listen. That’s just unwise business practice.
That’s largely why someone like dolly is so beloved by everyone. I think she genuinely is a kind person who loves all people, but beyond that why would she want to exclude people from enjoying her art? Why make a statement that will turn off a portion of people?
Luke Bryan and Blake are as big as country could get in their generation. Massive stars, both I think likely are conservatives. The most political I’ve seen their get is that Blake mention of the rebel flag, years ago, and Luke’s some people are good that is open enough that both republicans and democrats enjoy the song
July 30, 2025 @ 12:01 pm
I just don’t see the controversy. He was told that some native americans find that term offensive, and he didn’t want to offend them so has stopped singing it. He’s not penned a hectoring essay on why its offensive, just quietly took it off the setlist. After many years of being asked why he has finally answered. He hasn’t called for anyone else to do similar, hasn’t pulled it down from streaming so people can’t enjoy it. His shows are still outstanding without it.This doesn’t hurt anyone.
July 30, 2025 @ 12:51 pm
Long story short, what Tyler Childers said in the actual GQ interview got distilled down into viral meets where it was lacking context, and it became a political lightning rod. I have an article I’m working on about how we got here.
July 28, 2025 @ 1:31 pm
Well said. The Indians kerfuffle is solely Tyler created. It wasn’t Breitbart or newsmax trolling old Tyler tweets to expose a lefty commie country artist. They wouldn’t have even covered the album at all. They don’t really do art coverage. But Tyler himself weighed in on a song he wrote a decade ago, that is among his most streamed and well loved songs and said “fuck you” to fans who enjoy it and want to hear it at a concert. He chose to politicize it. He also unwisely chose to speak about it in one of his only mainstream interviews so far for this album. He’s a smart dude. He had to have known that snippet would get huge coverage. None of the rest of the interview is getting press, only that snippet. So moronic move by him there. He also unknown to him at the time, spoke about an issue the sitting president truthed about that very week. Literally the week Tyler released the album, Trump was speaking about reviving non pc sports names. Thats not totally his fault but pretty dumb overall to speak out about a culture war issue that trump made dinner table talk of that week. No one was discussing the Cleveland Indians or the braves or the redskins in any meaningful sense 2 weeks ago in a larger sense. Trump then did. And Tyler waded in.
This is really bad pr and marketing by him and his team. Really bad. Musicians do a lot of things to drum up media and coverage and get fans to check out their art. What generally is never done, is to speak out and condemn your own decade old song people want to hear again in concert. That generally doesn’t and won’t cause Tyler skeptics who haven’t yet listened to any of his music to check out the new album and it also won’t cause them to check out feathered Indians.
Tyler has every right to feel anyway he wants to feel about any of his songs. What is ridiculously bad pr and marketing would be to wade into a hot button cultural issue that you are on the wrong side of.
This isn’t the fault of republicans or Trump or maga or dumb yokels, this is Tyler’s fault for not knowing how to properly market himself and his music. He is at fault and he will suffer the legal and musical fallout. He should be deported immediately, but likely won’t. He should be fined and fired and dropped from
His label but he likely won’t. He should be castigated, and the DOJ should open a broad investigation into his life, finances and his actions. But that too likely won’t happen. He should be blacklisted and have his wages garnished. This likely won’t happen.
The point though is, it should happen. All it takes is one district attorney in Kentucky drawing up charges. I encourage massie and Rand Paul to do this.
While I enjoy the album, what Tyler has done to us all is a desecration.
July 30, 2025 @ 3:51 am
But why should he want to market himself as much as he can? Maybe he feels his thoughts and feelings are more important than some marketing and +1000 sold records. You all treat him and other artist like cattle. DO THIS, SING THAT FOR ME! ME! ME! I DESERVE IT! You don’t deserve anything from an artist, you can just come and join him in his adventure doing music. If you don’t like it there are thousands of other artists. But the american egomania and self centeredness is realy tiring in this discourse. And you make everything political and it’s unnecessary.
July 30, 2025 @ 10:42 am
This is literally a mentally ill response, dude. No one wants to control him or tell him
What to play or do. He’s his own man, and can play what he wants . What you don’t seem to understand is any artist speaking out about politics for either side is not a good business decision. It just angers half the country and pisses them off. If this album was a reaction to the rise of Trump, then we get it. This album is non political and has nothing to do with anything happening in the news. He is well within his right to never play a song ever again, or entire albums ever again. The issue rose up because he chose to do so publicly, and for political reasons.
If never playing feathered Indians again makes him happy, we all wish him much happiness. The thing you seem unable to grasp is to announce this publicly and for political reasons is harmful to him, his music and his brand.
Alabama never playing Dixieland delight again would make sense, it’s one of their biggest hits and they’ve been playing it for decades at this point. But if they were to say we are no longer playing it again, prior to a massive tour, and on the back of an album that wasn’t political yet the reason they gave for not playing it was that it brings to mind memories of negative historical events, I kind of think that would cause a major backlash from fans and listeners and would impact their ticket and album sales going forward.
This isnt partisan. There are right wing country singers who deal with the same scrutiny. And in fact many of them have it worse. Morgan Wallen has never really totally said he is right wing. Both sides assume he is, but there’s nothing suggesting he actually is a Trump supporter. Look at reaction to his most recent album and tell me it wasn’t political even though the album is non political. As trigger said for Tyler, I’m the problem, was an album where half the country cheered it, half the country said he was evil incarnate. Hell look at his statement “get me to gods country”. Thats a non partisan statement. Both parties have religious adherents. It’s not partisan to be a person of faith. Yet that statement was in the news for weeks. And both sides viewed it as specific and clear. When in reality all it suggests is he’s a man of faith. There’s no allegiance to a party in those words. Like at all.
So to whine about poor Tyler being a victim in this is fucking dumb. He’s a victim of his own words and his own actions. Just as Morgan is.
July 30, 2025 @ 5:53 pm
Tyler is pussy whipped.
End of story.
July 28, 2025 @ 1:00 pm
I’ve tried and tried to give this guy listens and to like what he’s doing. This was the last chance. Awful, awful album.
July 28, 2025 @ 2:05 pm
So can we admit the GQ interview overall was shit and he shouldn’t have done it at all, or are people still worshipping Tyler here and blind to facts?
His decision to do that interview cost him and will
Cost him many fans and listeners.
Note to any Tyler management reading here today; going forward probably a good idea not to let your boy do interviews anymore because he’s self imploding.
What a fucking travesty of an interview
July 28, 2025 @ 2:56 pm
That’s what those four paragraphs in the review were about. I might have a dedicated article on all of this as well. Nonetheless, the observation that this is not a political album stands. GQ, Marissa R. Moss, the publicist, and inadvertently, Country Chord, Country Central, and all the other outlets that blew up the quote are responsible for that. We should hold that against the music, though I understand why many will, and are.
July 28, 2025 @ 7:51 pm
GQ article was fantastic. Learned a lot about Tyler from that piece. It also furthered my admiration of his commitment to social justice, equity and inclusion. 223 comments. I’d say Tyler did a good job getting under a lot of skin.
July 28, 2025 @ 8:55 pm
He certainly did. But as I said upstream here, usually when artists do controversial things it’s to bring attention and eyeballs to their art and get streams, clicks, and ultimately money via concert tickets or merch sales.
In this case, his comments certainly got clicks onto country central and whiskey riff and GQ but do you think his comments won fans over who hadn’t heard of him before and or also continued engage with and make products longtime fans want to buy and support.
I’d say no on both accounts.
Tyler could have chosen so many different ways to promote the album. Generally wading into culture war politics doesn’t sell tickets or bring new fans. And he had the double whammy.
In terms of pr and marketing 101, during an album launch the one thing you don’t want to do is alienate potential buyers of your album. Musicians want everyone to listen, walling off a select fanbase based on political adherence seems kind of moronic, furthermore basic marketing teams when promoting an album and subsequent tour wouldn’t counsel an artist to admit in a public and published article that they were never playing their most streamed song going forward. They would say that’s bad pr because you are giving people a reason not to attend as opposed to a reason to attend. Anyone who has always wanted to hear it live will now not have that opportunity.
You can support Tyler and be a fan and still see this is the most fucked up album release in country music in decades. It’s monumentally bad. Even as you say, even if you think Tyler is spot on in terms of politics and giving the finger to those racist hillbillies, a headline of fuck those republicans, isn’t good business practice. As f you may say well he should speak his mind, he can but he also is representing a label, an industry, a community and even is the leader of a band. So his decisions to make political statements cause financial harm and stress to lots of other people besides himself. While I think it’s likely his band agrees politically, the label, his bosses, and his friends industry no doubt do disagree. His actions have serious consequences for a lot of people.
Just because you have the ability as an artist to speak out, doesn’t mean you actually should or that it’s wise, or financially wise.
We don’t live in a society that wants woke artists. Given as trigger said this album is non political, Tyler bringing politics into it all was dumb on a massive level. He created controversy where he didn’t need to. He could have spent all his time detailing his new songs . Instead he forced his politics into a situation that didn’t call for it and alienated half the fucking country if not more.
Leftist radicals aren’t pleased about never getting to hear feathered Indians live, either. It’s a bipartisan issue. And you can’t tell me antifa and blm were saying Tyler needed to be canceled because of that track. Even they didn’t care and loved it. So he screwed himself royally.
Also you seem to think just because his album is causing discussion means it’s all good for Tyler. Read the comments instead of just talking about the amount of them. Some enjoy the album but some also say it’s the worst album they’ve heard from him of all year. That’s not good press.
July 29, 2025 @ 7:42 am
The ramblings on message boards like this and Reddit are just noise. Every concert Tyler books will continue to sell out in hours. Fans will enthusiastically sing along to all the new songs. And actual music journalists all praise the album—Rolling Stone, Holler County Music, Pitchfork, Slant and more. And I bet Tyler is sitting back and laughing at the histrionics he seems to have caused.
July 30, 2025 @ 3:42 am
I can’t say if this is irony or ramblings of some idiotic simpleton american with likewarm grasp on reality XD
July 28, 2025 @ 11:01 pm
Whether you love or hate the GQ article, it’s undeniable that it created a polarized political environment that Tyler’s album was subsequently released in, causing half of people to immediately hate it, and they other half to immediately laud it, probably to an embellished degree, while hating the other half of people who hated it. In nearly 20 years of doing this, I’ve never seen an album create such a rip and tog-o-war, and the GQ article was the catalyst. The “Feathered Indians” comment, and how it was meme-ified on social media and out-of-context was the worst of it. From a simple public relations/numbers perspective, it was a catastrophe, especially when you consider the album isn’t political at all. I plan to outline all of this in detail soon.
July 30, 2025 @ 3:43 am
Is your society that divided that some random interview in some random magazine causes you to stop being a fan of music? Damn… You all lost perspective, you need to take a step back and touch some grass
July 29, 2025 @ 5:56 am
The GQ article isn’t the first time he’s explained his current relationship with the song.
https://www.cfmt.org/stories/ar-connection-story-draft/
July 29, 2025 @ 7:06 am
Good find. However, there’s no date on this article. Also, this wasn’t the article the viral memes were derived from. But it is important context.
July 29, 2025 @ 7:47 am
It’s from 2023
https://issuu.com/commfoundationmiddletn/docs/2024cfmt-strenghteningthesocialfabric
I don’t think he’s taking any kind of a political positon.
I think he’s bummed he didn’t understand his word choice was problematic when he wrote the song.
July 29, 2025 @ 8:12 am
Awesome, thanks!
Yeah, I don’t see what Tyler Childers said as being some massively polarizing position to take. It was 1) The way the GQ feature was clearly politically aligned from the title, to the subheading, to all the way down by Marissa R. Moss who is a known political apparatchik, and 2) How these social media-based outlets took the quote out-of-context, esp. not including how Tyler is donating the proceeds from the song to tribes.
I feel it’s important we go back and reconstruct how we got here, because unfortunately, it has distracted so demonstrably from the music itself. I’m working on that at the moment.
July 29, 2025 @ 9:19 am
For a self-proclaimed “saver of country music” blogger dude, he certainly likes to tear down the actual musicians and people who saved the genre.
July 29, 2025 @ 10:09 am
Tell me you didn’t read the article without telling me you didn’t read the article.
I’m honestly surprised how intellectually lazy a lot of the “Tyler Childers is above criticism” crowd is, and how quickly they’ve given into thought-terminating cliches and ad hominen attacks. This was a positive review that delved deeply into nuanced discussion about an important artist, and an important album.
July 29, 2025 @ 10:20 am
Love how defensive you always get lol. This goes beyond this review and Tyler. If it isn’t Cody jinks or Red dirt country you don’t praise it.
July 29, 2025 @ 10:53 am
I get defensive because takes like this are verifiably false and based on Internet canards. Sturgill Simpson’s “Passage Du Desir” and Jason Isbell’s “Wearhervanes” both received top-level reviews here and were nominated for Album of the Year. I barely cover Red Dirt Music.
“Snipe Hunter” is an overall decent album with some great songwriting, whose production decisions on certain songs have left the majority of Tyler Childers fans feeling like it could have been better. The opinions shared here align with how most of the public feels, if not veering too positive if anything.
July 29, 2025 @ 6:51 pm
Great review. I keep wondering what might have been had Sturgill or Dave Cobb produced this album.
July 30, 2025 @ 5:57 pm
You’d still have 11 shitty songs.
July 29, 2025 @ 8:13 pm
Saying this is the best TC album since Purgatory is almost damning with faint praise. I mean, never mind the syphilitic Hare Krishna koalas, on Country Squire he wrote a song about masturbation and on Long Violent History he played the fiddler like a middle-schooler.
There a few great songs on all his albums and inevitably a few that are puzzling at best. It’s almost like he doesn’t think about what someone would want to listen to more than once: “Nose on the Grindstone,” for sure, but “Down Under” or the jerk-off song? C’mon, man, those are just embarrassing and liable to be skipped every time.
I think someone wrote on this thread or an earlier one that you can make a fantastic TC playlist by taking all or most of Purgatory and then a couple of songs from each album, except maybe LVH.
Oh, one other thing: for those people complaining about Sturgill’s change of direction with Sound and Fury and Passage du Desir, remember in 2020 he released two acoustic bluegrass albums, including bluegrass treatments of all the songs on Sailor’s Guide to Earth and Metamodern. Great albums and remarkably respectful of the genre.
July 30, 2025 @ 3:39 am
It’s absolutely amazing, but I don’t come from US or country/US folk music scene so I don’t have certain hung ups and preconceptions as some people here have. Also culturally you are more conservative and actually really get angry that Tyler don’t want to kill gays. Just listen to it with an open mind, it’s witty, bizzare and inteligent in all the right places. Beautiful in it’s own independent way. Why would you want him to regurgitate the same sound from 10 years ago just to cater to your taste?
July 30, 2025 @ 8:42 am
The notion Americans “want to kill gays” is pretty hyperbolic. The United States legalized gay marriage before many European counties did, and most conservatives were actually for it, and remain so. The issue some took with the video is it felt preachy and hectoring about the issue under the misconception that exposure = acceptance. Not to say there wasn’t some homophobic backlash against it too because of course there was. But it really was the parental, down-taking notions of the video that made it so polarizing.
July 30, 2025 @ 10:23 am
This is a really bigoted take.
The idea that the right hates Tyler because he is for gay rights is not only an ignorant take it also is straight up disinformation.
Prior to last week, conservatives had no issue being fans of Tyler Childers. Even given his open and public political stances up to that point.
Tyler even made that blm bullshit album
And conservatives grumbled and thought it was a moronic take but they never abandoned him.
Most conservatives just went on well he’s a silly pinko commie but at least we still have feathered Indians which fucking rocks.
It’s also pretty much settled law for BOTH parties. The irony being Trump announced support of gay marriage in 2000 if not earlier. He was a friend of the Howard stern crew. Obama and Hillary didn’t support gay marriage until well into 2010 if not later. Trump hired the first openly gay administration official with ric grenell and scott Presler played a key role in trumps reflection in 2024 most specifically in securing Pennsylvania. Trump pardoned Brandon straka an influential this year who started the walk away movement of former democrats leaving the democrat party and joining the gop.
The idea that the right hates Tyler because he is for gay rights is not only an ignorant take it also is straight up disinformation.
I know this to be true because the reaction on the right to that music video a few years back was nothing compared to the reaction to the GQ article. Right wingers still streamed that album despite the music video. The difference for this is right wingers aren’t streaming this new album.
July 31, 2025 @ 6:33 am
Definitely appears to be the case. Didn’t even know he was married. Her social media is very woke: masked, honoring Ruth bader Ginsberg and anti police pro blm.
As you say, wonder why he’s so woke, guess we have an answer.
August 23, 2025 @ 6:37 pm
Your comments are unhinged. Please drink more of the kool-aid and launch yourself into delululand for eternity.
August 2, 2025 @ 12:36 pm
@Trig I’m late to the party, but finally gave the album a listen. It feels forced. There are guys who cut albums like this and it feels like it came from inspiration and that’s what makes it work. This doesn’t. Just seems was trying too hard to make something different. Similar to The Outsiders from Eric Church.
August 5, 2025 @ 5:00 am
I’m late to this 264-comment party because I wanted to listen to this album thoroughly before giving an opinion. So now I’m screaming into the void but this album 100% works for me. It’s everything everyone here has said it is: weird, unconventional, nontraditional, jarring, erratic, etc. etc. But, it’s a fun and memorable album with some very catchy tunes and brilliant hooks. And I mean nobody can write lyrics like this guy. Yeah, there’s gratuitous cussing just for the sake of cussing, but look past that and you get to unforgettable gems like the “the coal mining gays” and “hotter than the devil’s dick on fire.”
I spent most of my Friday listening to Jinks’ new album on repeat and then switched over to this album and was blown away how two different, well-respected artists “in the same genre” have two produced two different albums at the opposite ends of the spectrum that are still better and more interesting than ANYTHING you’ll hear on local radio. Think about that. It’s a great time to be alive if you’re an independent “country” music fan.
August 7, 2025 @ 8:25 am
Honestly, I love it. I can’t stop listening to it. It’s full on raw outlaw country.