Album Review – Tyler Childers – “Rustin’ In The Rain”

There’s a lot of noise in music these days, and that noise often drowns out the music itself. The quarreling and distraction that ensues in certain segments of the country music population simply from mentioning names like “Tyler Childers,” “Jason Isbell,” and “Sturgill Simpson” due to particular stances they have taken, and the political reactionism those stances elicit has become a drag on the otherwise strong and vibrant grassroots movement attempting to offer an alternative to mainstream country.
This is unfortunate, because these same names constitute the very pinnacle of creative expression and importance in this independent music movement. Perhaps it’s these artists’ own doing, but the polarization that has permeated everything throughout society has most certainly not spared the independent country scene, and it’s been a party to eroding the once strong camaraderie that allowed independent music to become the mainstream.
But the release of a new album is the opportunity to replace all of that noise. A good album, or a good song can act like a panacea for the public perception of any artist, and can set folks strait and bring people together across otherwise stratified political and cultural divides. Jason Isbell’s new album Weathervanes released earlier this year is a good example of this. With 13 strong new original songs, he hushed many of his critics.
You pipe up the new Tyler Childers album Rustin’ In The Rain and the tandem twangy guitar sounds introducing the title track immediately hit your ears, and all of a sudden everything seems a little more right in the world. The second song “Phone Calls and Emails” about being ghosted with it’s 3/4 time signature and tinkling piano reminiscent of Charlie Rich is also perfect for softening hardened country hearts and putting bygones aside.
Childers has always been more of an Appalachian-style folkish-leaning country artist. But the first two tracks of Rustin’ In The Rain give off a more traditional country signal. This continues into the Childers rendition of “Help Me Make It Through The Night,” written by Kris Kristofferson, and popularized by Sammi Smith on its way to becoming a classic country standard. Having performed this song live for years now, Tyler knows how to navigate the contours of this composition to squeeze every ounce of emotion out of this classic composition.
S.G. Goodman’s “Space and Time” isn’t exactly a traditional country standard just yet, but Tyler Childers helps boost its signal significantly here, and deservedly so, even if S.G’s version remains the definitive take of the song. And similarly to the other songs of the set, Childers proves that it’s not just his writing or style that has ensconced him at the top of country music, but his singing and performances that exude tremendous soul and a sincere affection for the words and sentiments that’s hard to not recognize and appreciate.
“Luke 2:8-10” and “Percheron Mules” are the tracks on the album that feel a little bit weaker than the rest. Already familiar to many Tyler Childers fans, you’re not sure if there is a tongue-in-the-cheek when you’re listening, which Childers and his backing band The Food Stamps with their side project El Dorado are known to do. It’s also fair to wonder if these songs wouldn’t have been better placed on Tyler’s last album, the Gospel-inspired Can I Take My Hounds To Heaven.
Otherwise though, it’s really hard to find an avenue of criticism for what you get on Rustin’ In The Rain. These seven tracks sound great, and in many ways this album constitutes the true traditional country record some Childers fans have been clamoring for.
Even though some have worn these songs out via live versions on YouTube, the studio versions have enough unique wrinkles and character to make them their own living entities beyond the fond memories of live performances. Also, it’s not exactly Tyler’s fault if folks became comfortable to the live versions first. This is the risk any fan takes by taking a peek forward on YouTube.
But the concern about Rustin’ In The Rain is what this album doesn’t include. It feels like it pulls up a bit short, just like really all of Tyler’s albums since Purgatory. It’s Purgatory that remains the most popular album by Tyler Childers, and one of the most popular albums in all of country music, despite having been released now some six years ago, and Childers releasing three other albums subsequently. It’s not just because it’s where people first discovered Tyler Childers. It’s because it feels like Tyler’s last complete effort.

Whether it was the pandemic-era Long Violent History filled mostly with old-time fiddle standards, or Can I Take My Hounds to Heaven that stretched eights songs including covers, standards, and instrumentals into a bloated three-album set, you just don’t feel like you’re getting the full effort, and the full Tyler Childers experience from these most recent albums.
Tyler Childers may be keeping his nose out of the pills these days, but he’s not keeping it on the grindstone. When he revealed that he spent all of two days in the studio during the recording of Can I Take My Hounds To Heaven, it seemed to make sense.
Nobody’s asking Tyler Childers to be like Zach Bryan and slap dash tracks out with poor production, nor should Childers be forced to release a new album of 10 original songs every year if there’s no inspiration and passion to compose new material. But there is a happy medium somewhere that Tyler Childers is missing, and seems to be trying to fill with cover songs, and songs he probably should have released years ago, and songs that are sometimes or often worn out in the audience’s ear well before the studio version is released.
And then of course there is the political tone that Tyler has set now for not just one, but two of his albums, and not through the song material itself exactly, but videos that have accompanied them. Instead of letting Long Violent History speak for itself as Childers said he wanted to do and was his initial impulse, he included a video that despite it’s praise from allies in the media, came across as preachy and unnecessarily polarizing to much of his fan base, not underscoring his message, but eroding its potency.
Similarly, the video for Tyler’s “In Your Love” has been praised to the rafters by allies and people in the media and elite circles, but has seen mixed to negative results from some of the people who the music of Tyler Childers naturally appeals to, and perhaps those who need to be reached by the message the most.
To those who feel offended by the portrayal of a gay couple in a music video, they need to just get over it. Heteronormative portrayals of love are commonplace, and there’s no reason why gay ones couldn’t, or shouldn’t be either. We’re 25 years beyond Will & Grace, and gay marriage has been the law of the land for a nearly a decade. You don’t have to love it, but there’s no reason to not accept it, and accept everyone for who they are.
But for some, it’s not the video content specifically. It’s the preachy, didactic nature of how all of this stuff comes across to them. It’s the way the press and elite society speak down to people, and virtue signal often to shield themselves from their own trespasses, bigotry, or hypocrisy. Is the mixed reception for the video the fault of bigoty? In some instances, yes it most certainly is.
But this is the challenge presented to artists who want to reach through people’s preconceived filters to stimulate the actual change they want to see in the world. Often when this enterprise is undertaken, it ends up being counter-productive to the intended targets of the message, and pandering to those who are already receptive to it.
The video for “In Your Love” won’t stimulate the questioning of ideals and the softening of hardened hearts in audience members that it hopes to, except perhaps in some rare case. It has stimulated anger in these people—anger from some that is tied to bigotry and homophobia that they need to address on a personal level.
But for others, their issue with the video is simply tied to not wanting to be moralized to. In truth, Tyler Childers isn’t directly moralizing anything in the video, but that’s not how it’s being perceived, and by both sides of the issue. Some people run to music as a reprieve from the polarization of society. And some not only won’t let the message of the “In Your Love” video into their hearts, they will swear off the music of Tyler Childers in its entirety, isolating them from all the messages he looks to convey through all of his music.
All of that is a shame, because despite the short run-time and reliance on previously-heard material, Rustin’ In The Rain is a great little album full of quality country songs and performances by Tyler Childers and the Food Stamps. It’s the most cohesive and straightforward work from Childers since Country Squire.
Tyler Childers has his. He’s selling out arenas now, and making 7 figures off his music. Your boycotts and bad attitudes about his music will only make a difference at the margins. The only person who is really being injured by not listening to the agreeable portions of the catalogs of Tyler Childers, Jason Isbell, and Sturgill Simpson is you the listener by allowing the extraneous noise to get in the way of what is often great country music.
And Rustin’ In The Rain is great country music.
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September 9, 2023 @ 8:00 am
I don’t need the message of In Your Love’s video in my heart. Just can’t do it. But I listened to this album twice, and yes, it is great music.
September 9, 2023 @ 8:09 am
I understand people are wired different but I have a hard time understanding why people find it so difficult to separate the artist from the song from the song video.
I, personally, have no problem with Tyler or his video for “In Your Love”. But again, to each their own for those that do. I just wish more people that do have a problem with either of those could just listen to, and appreciate the music independently from those grievances because I agree with Trigger – I think they’d find some terrific country music which is why we’re here and listening in the first place.
September 9, 2023 @ 8:13 am
Hit post too quickly..
That being said, I also agree that the content put out here is great but man, I just wish there was more. Especially hearing that he played a couple more unreleased songs at his release party, in addition to all of the other unreleased songs we know he has piled up from live shows over the years.
Selfishly, I just hope it’s not another two year wait and that results in another EP-length album filled mostly with sings we’ve already been teased with for years. I love Tyler’s sound (and even the evolution of it through his discography) and just want more! 🙂
September 9, 2023 @ 8:57 am
On your comment about hoping the next release has more songs…. NY Times interview posted this week: “Rustin’ in the Rain” is a succinct seven songs, which is very intentional. Childers’s albums “are getting shorter as they go,” he said. “A countdown.” What happens when he gets to one? “I go home,” he said — to his mules, his wife and their baby boy, and to his farm. To his own rural story.
# of Songs
10-Purgatory
9-Country Squire
8-CITMHTH
7-Rustin’
September 9, 2023 @ 9:25 am
That’s total bullshit. Does this drop in tracks parallel a drop in price? So far it hasn’t. Why did his label and publicity go through extra levels of effort to hide the track list to this album while still taking money for pre-orders? Why if he’s releasing less songs on each album is he still relying more heavily on cover songs as he goes along as well? Why did he cover his own song “Purgatory” on two separate of these projects?
This attitude really disappoints me. Don’t take advantage of your fans. I am not going to fault Tyler Childers if he just doesn’t have the inspiration to write new material these days. But don’t go recycling songs, relying on covers, stretching out material, tripling up on the same songs like he did with his last album, and try to pass it off as some sort of creative expression. This is Garth Brooks level deception.
September 10, 2023 @ 12:47 pm
Artists make most of their money on the road these days. I know You know this. My point is He probably doesn’t see much money in his pocket from a record as he does touring. Why put all the effort into recording a great album that other people are making more money off of it than the artist. Not sure what his contract with Sony states but maybe he is running it out to bring out the best new stuff or just has been enjoying home and family.
September 10, 2023 @ 12:57 pm
This is untrue about Tyler Childers though. Tyler Childers is a millionaire, and he’s a millionaire off of his recorded music. He currently owns his own record label Hickman Holler Records distributed by RCA. Even more so, “Purgatory” was released on Thirty Tigers, which only takes 10%. Childers has made stacks and stacks of cash from his recorded music. He’s also toured very very little ever since COVID. The guy has one of the lightest tour schedules out there.
And even if this was the case, why make an inferior product just because you’re not going to make a ton of money on it? That’s the wrong reason to make art. I most certainly don’t run a music website for the money. I do it because I believe in it and am passionate about it.
Again, I don’t blame Tyler for not being prolific. But don’t try to pawn that off as some sort of creative expression, or portray him as dad/husband of the year for doing it. There’s no reason he can add a couple more songs to his albums to satisfy his fans, especially when he already has them in the can.
September 11, 2023 @ 6:16 am
Just a thought I had about the situation. No insider rumor. My opinion only. .
September 11, 2023 @ 7:15 am
I have to agree with your assessment that he seems to be phoning it in a bit and in my subjective opinion I would also add, I think he’s lost his muse (sort of). Lets be honest, some of the best music ever written comes from gut wrenching pain and the angst of finding yourself in the world. Tyler has sobered up and matured out of this. His music is now about love and finding salvation. Perhaps it says something about the human condition (or just my jaded mind) but that just doesn’t resonate on the same level. One other thing I would add is I think he’s not enjoying it as much either and perhaps resentful of fans wanting him to play old stuff (this is totally me speculating). Ive seem him live a few times over the years and he seems to be enjoying it less and less. The last show at Catbird seemed almost awkward with the amount of tension. IIRC he started the first few songs at a hypersonic tempo and with no breaks, seemed to miss a few lyrics or changed them up and it seemed as though the band was giving each WTF looks. It threw the whole show off for me.
Regardless, I am super thankful to the guy for all he has given us. If he doesn’t have it in him to write new material, I’d love to see him and sturgill do something again. It’d be epic to see a modern day highway men type project. I know Im day dreaming here…
September 9, 2023 @ 10:38 am
Interesting. I could see it. I’d hope he’d still tour. I’ve commented a thousand times, he’s never cared much for or respected the recorded music part of the industry often shielding his best songs from albums and keeping them for the live experience.
September 9, 2023 @ 8:12 am
I don’t get really much of anything you’re saying here about In Your Love. It really is just a love song where the subjects are gay. I don’t get what is controversial about that at all unless you just hate gay people. Like it’s just portrayal it’s not didactic. It’s just a song about two men being in love. Genuinely confused about why it needed to be reviewed on here at all on any level beyond how good a song it is relative to other love songs.
I also do feel like the universally acclaimed Country Squire keeps getting retconned as somehow part of the disappointing stuff post Purgatory.
But I really liked this album. Too short yeah but 7 good songs I enjoyed hearing and will listen to a lot. Tyler Childers to me is the best performer of country music going right now (with George Strait the greatest all time but he’s not at his peak anymore). His cover of help me make it through the night is brilliant. I really enjoyed this album and probably would give it the same score as Trigger. Just don’t get how much ink he gave to an issue that’s not at all comparable to say Jason isbell who is actually politically confrontational in a way I get can be off putting in all the ways In Your Love is not.
September 9, 2023 @ 8:42 am
First, there is definitely confusion behind the messaging of the proponents of the “In Your Love” video. I am seeing some people say it is simply a portrayal and they don’t understand why people are making a big deal about it, and then I am seeing other people say it is absolutely an aggressive political statement while praising Childers for his risk taking and leadership in the country music space that needs these kinds of voices and perspectives.
As I said in the review, “In truth, Tyler Childers isn’t directly moralizing anything in the video, but that’s not how it’s being perceived, and by both sides of the issue.
To act like a video like that is not going to be seen as a politically polarizing is to be incredibly, incredibly naive.
As I argued in the article, I don’t think people should have a problem with the video, and I think that people who do have a problem with it need to get over it. But what I don’t have a problem with is people saying, “Why even go here? Why stir up homophobia? Why limit the capacity of your music to reach an audience when you’re not even going to assuage people to your side?”
September 9, 2023 @ 8:48 am
I mean why go there, cause it’s an artist talking about the human experience the same as every other song on the album. I don’t think he’s making a grand statement with that song personally. I think it’s just a well written well performed love song on a good album.
September 9, 2023 @ 9:16 am
This has nothing to do with the song “In Your Love” at all. It has everything to do with the video.
September 9, 2023 @ 3:03 pm
The video was also an artist talking about the human experience.
September 9, 2023 @ 5:01 pm
Personally I don’t think being gay is political at all. Why would it be?
September 11, 2023 @ 7:20 am
Well that’s great. It may not be to you or I, but apparently it still is to a lot of people who think limited government only applies to things like gun laws.
September 9, 2023 @ 9:04 am
I wonder if the video had come out just before the trans lobby hijacked the rainbow and became so ubiquitous, aggressive, and targeted at children…if it would have gone over differently.
September 9, 2023 @ 5:03 pm
???? a rainbow is retracted light. The bible is poorly written fiction. Noah’s ark was never a real seagoing vessel.
September 9, 2023 @ 10:55 pm
Noah’s Ark is a tourist trap in BFE Kentucky.
September 10, 2023 @ 7:25 pm
I always find it interesting that everyone is so careful not to offend the LGBTQIA+++ community and to let them live the way they want, but when it comes to those of us who believe the Bible, it is fair game to slam everything we think or believe without any need to show any reservation. Have you ever wondered why that is? Check out Romans 1. Paul is pretty clear about why this is. It ain’t fiction.
September 11, 2023 @ 7:23 am
To be fair Jason, “believers” have been imposing their beliefs on others for millennia… You don’t like the heat, get out the kitchen
September 9, 2023 @ 11:36 am
“But what I don’t have a problem with is people saying, “Why even go here? Why stir up homophobia? Why limit the capacity of your music to reach an audience when you’re not even going to assuage people to your side?””
I think the perspective of “Why even go here?” is pretty ignorant. Of course, it’s going to be “politically polarizing” (I do have opinions about the fact that a pretty standard love story music video that features two men is something “polarizing” but I digress).
But I’ve seen way too many reactions that seem to imply Tyler is catering to a progressive audience, trying to preach, or simply “going woke”. All that shit ignores the actual reality of the situation. Tyler’s a human being whose gay cousin he chose to be his best man. He saw firsthand the prejudice that this person who he loves faces in situations like that and even had his own character questioned for simply having a gay best man.
I don’t know whether that’s political, but it’s certainly personal. A personal experience motivated him to use his platform to spotlight people and experiences he has personally seen be treated with prejudice and disrespect in his community. Of course that makes certain people uncomfortable and maybe even angry. If Tyler didn’t want to do that and make people confront why they’re uncomfortable — or worse, if he was afraid to speak on things that were important to him because he feared the response — then he wouldn’t be the strong-willed and original artist that he is.
Does he think he’s gonna “cure homophobia” or something? No of course not. That doesn’t mean it’s reasonable to wish he would leave it alone and keep his feelings about the gay community (who he has a personal connection to) to himself. And again, it’s not like the video is about some homophobic right wing politician or something. It’s literally just Tyler saying: these people are here, they’re part of this culture too, I’m gonna represent that in a pretty standard music video.
Sorry for the long tangent but I just see so much talk about artists “making a statement” or “catering to an audience” or “going woke” that completely ignore the fact that he’s an actual person with actual experiences with some of these subjects. Macklemore singing a song pretending to relate to the gay community, that’s catering. Rich ass Jason Aldean talking about what goes down in a small town, that’s catering. Tyler’s being Tyler, and what impact it has is not up to him nor is it his responsibility.
September 10, 2023 @ 7:14 am
Thank you, this is exactly what needed to be said. Criticize the media or the trolls who try and turn things like this into divisive issues…not the artist creating based on his own perspectives and experiences.
September 9, 2023 @ 3:17 pm
Bullshit. It’s politicized because media like you allow it to be both sided & sensationalist. Stick to the music Trig, ur usually on point there
September 9, 2023 @ 4:22 pm
No doubt the media picked up on the “In Your Love” video and politicized it from the very start, whether Tyler wanted it to be political or not. It started with the Ann K. Powers piece in NPR, and continued on with the piece in The New York Times coinciding with the release, along with a dozen other articles in between. These pieces of media pandered to political constituencies and ideologies, and helped exacerbate the blow back and reactionary opinions you’re now seeing from people swearing off the music of Tyler Childers for “going woke” in it’s entirety.
People who like Tyler Childers, this album, the “In Your Love” video, or what they perceive as Tyler’s politics don’t need me to convince them to love this album any more. I wrote this review for everyone else who has been turned off by Tyler Childers for one reason or another.
That is the narrative arc of this review. The conclusion was not, “Hey, if you don’t like Tyler’s gay video, I get it. You have a right to be indignant.”
The conclusion was, “The only person who is really being injured by not listening to the agreeable portions of the catalogs of Tyler Childers, Jason Isbell, and Sturgill Simpson is you the listener by allowing the extraneous noise to get in the way of what is often great country music. And ‘Rustin’ In The Rain’ is great country music. “
Ignoring the political component to the perceptions around Tyler Childers and this album is to be willfully ignorant and uninformed. I didn’t start this fight. I tried to resolve it.
September 14, 2023 @ 9:37 am
At what point can we call a spade a spade?The guy posted a BLM support video and even donned a very leftwing KY senate candidate’s shirt during a performance… He consciously chose to make his politics a part of his brand. Agree or disagree the guy isnt innocently spilling his heart with no consideration with these things.
Clearly Tyler, Sturgill and co. are aware of the highly sensitive and divisive time we are in now with everybody paying attention to what people say and they choose to inject their politics when they feel inclined regardless. Both have demonstratably said as much in interviews where they expected backlash but pushed forward with it anyway (in both politicization and musical direction shifts ).
You cant separate an artist from the art when they intentionally stamp it on themselves.
Just own it.
September 9, 2023 @ 8:47 am
I also do feel like the universally acclaimed Country Squire keeps getting retconned as somehow part of the disappointing stuff post Purgatory.
I agree. Not as good as Purgatory, but a solid followup.
September 9, 2023 @ 8:53 am
The revisionism Country Squire gets is crazy. If you go back and look at the reviews on this website Country Squire(9/10)was literally given a higher score than Purgatory(8/10). He literally thinks Purgatory is as good as the new album
September 9, 2023 @ 9:09 am
Obviously those opinions can change and have changed over time
September 9, 2023 @ 4:25 pm
I literally don’t. All comments like this do is make me want to stop using numerical grades. As I always say, it’s the written content of the album itself that reflects the opinion, and time is always the greatest critic.
September 9, 2023 @ 2:04 pm
You can not hate people and still not support what they are doing. If you have a kid you see this quite often. The Christian view is pretty simple, love the person, not the sin. Christian’s don’t need to just get over it and conform to the world.
September 9, 2023 @ 2:50 pm
That’s all well and good. But I find it baffling that people decided to speak up now but apparently took no issue with it when Tyler was singing about sniffing cocaine in “White House Road,” engaging in premarital sex in “Feathered Indians,” practicing what the Bible refers to as onanism in “Ever Loving Hand,” robbing filling stations in “Hard Times,” literally murdering someone in “Banded Clovis,” etc. I’m a Christian myself, but the outrage over this particular video seems selective.
September 9, 2023 @ 3:24 pm
That’s a fair point. The only thing I would say is that I don’t think he is necessarily supporting murder and drug addiction in those song as much oh as he is just telling a story.
September 9, 2023 @ 3:56 pm
Yeah, telling stories is his job and he’s talked before about not wanting to leave Appalachia for a larger city because he wants to remain close to the people whose stories he is telling. Speaking as someone who lives around an hour from where Tyler grew up, there are couples here like the one depicted in the video. My small hometown has had an annual pride parade for a few years now and I know of several other towns nearby who do as well. Huntington, West Virginia, where Tyler played many of his early gigs, has at least one gay club that was very crowded the one time I went there over a decade ago and seems to have a strong crowd outside any time I pass by (not that everyone attending is LGBT; I and, to the best of my knowledge, the friends I went with that night aren’t).
You or I can feel good, bad or indifferent about that situation, but the situation exists and the people exist. There aren’t as many LGBT in Appalachia as there are people who have struggled with addiction, but they’re every bit as much a part of our community and if Tyler feels like it’s his job to tell the stories of the region, that has to include their stories.
September 9, 2023 @ 5:05 pm
@Adam Sheets that is true but there is still a difference between supporting it and just bringing awareness to it. He obviously isn’t supporting a thing like drug abuse or murder but I’m assuming the reason he’s telling the story about a gay couple is because he is. I’m not denying that there are gay people or saying that they are bad people, but I do think the sin is wrong.
September 11, 2023 @ 7:33 am
Dude you’re trying to use logic with someone who staked their identity in a 2000 yo plagiarized fairytale. Very few “christians” abide by Jesus’ teachings and they are all 100% hypocritical when it comes to living according to the bible. Have you met someone who’s wife sleeps in a different bed while menstruating? If it weren’t so insidious it would be silly…
September 11, 2023 @ 8:13 am
DB cooper those points are easily refuted so I apologize if you have only run in to Christians who have not shared the Truth with you. We don’t claim to be perfect or sinless either though. I don’t know if youtube links get blocked on here so ill send you the title to a video if you are curious on the matter “Jesus was NOT copied from pagan mythology (Zeitgeist REBUTTED).” Its a video from The Counsel of Trent.
To the menstruating point, Jesus overturned much of the old law and you can find a great article on this from Catholic.com called “Why We Are Not Bound by Everything in the Old Law”
September 14, 2023 @ 9:45 am
I’m baffled that Feathered Indians, as a song title, is very problematic and doesn’t seem to align with Tyler’s current ideaology of respecting marginalized communities as shown in his BLM video… i guess ‘Feathered Indigenous Peoples’ didn’t hit as hard? ‘Feathered Guardians’ might work?
September 9, 2023 @ 8:15 pm
Amen, Jay.
September 11, 2023 @ 7:48 am
“Christian’s don’t need to just get over it and conform to the world.”
Maybe Christians need to focus more on letting their religious beliefs dictate how they live their own lives and less on demanding their religious beliefs dictate how others live their lives. I don’t know you, so maybe that’s exactly what you do, but you did write that you don’t support what they do. Like, okay? Who cares whether you “support” it or not? Gay people exist, and whether you “support” it or not, they still deserve to love who they love, and live their lives they way they choose, as long as they aren’t hurting anyone else. I still have never received a good answer from the religious bigots to the question “How is their lifestyle hurting you?”
September 11, 2023 @ 8:25 am
Penn Jillette had a great take on this. He is an atheist but stated if Christians really do believe that they have the key to salvation, it would be actually cruel for them to not try and share it with others. Now this has to be done out of Love and like I said, a Christian needs to love the person, but not the sin. Also just in general, people still can and should have opinions on things even if it does not directly effect them. It happens all of the time. Incest does not directly effect me or you but I am assuming we both think it is wrong.
September 11, 2023 @ 9:21 am
As much as I like and admire Penn, I definitely don’t agree with him on that stance. I don’t mind if you knock me over to save me from getting hit by a truck (an immediate and visible threat), but the “threat” of hell isn’t real. Also, by this time it’s probably safe to assume that just about everybody has heard the word, and you aren’t you aren’t going to add anything new to the discussion.
Of course you can have an opinion, and you can live your life the way you think is best based on what your opinion is as long as you aren’t hurting anyone else. You just don’t get to control the way other people live their lives as long as they aren’t hurting anyone else.
Don’t assume too much; I literally have no problem with what consenting adults do with each other as long as they are willing participants and aren’t hurting anyone else. I don’t have any desire to engage in either homosexuality or incest, but as long as they are consenting adults then I don’t care if others do. Because, see, it doesn’t hurt me in any way at all. (Don’t gloss over that I said “consenting adults”, because both of those words are important in this discussion.)
September 11, 2023 @ 11:55 am
If that was the case though than no atheist would ever convert to Christianity but many still do even having been an atheist with lots of Biblical knowledge before hand. I also have friends who struggle with drug addiction and even though they are not hurting anyone and are choosing to do it I still don’t support that and try and motivate them to stop.
September 9, 2023 @ 3:14 pm
THANK YOU ????????????????
September 9, 2023 @ 8:27 am
There’s nothing remotely political about the In Your Love video. It’s the job of a songwriter and storytellers in general to write about the world they live in. LGBT people exist and their relationships were being depicted (and in far more explicit detail than Tyler’s video) in popular music by artists like Lou Reed, the Kinks, and even Rod Stewart decades before Tyler and most of his critics were even born. If people prefer not to be aware that LGBT people exist, there are decades of recorded music made before such relationships were normalized and plenty of fantasy literature to read. But you can’t expect Tyler to be dishonest about the world he lives in just because some snowflakes would prefer a safe space to reality. What they want may result in better quality music than the bro country checklist songs that were all the rage a few years ago, but it would be just as dishonest in it’s portrayal of the world.
I agree with most of your review and would agree that it is his strongest album in years. Had Can I Take My Hounds to Heaven been a single disc, it would take that title but we have to judge it as whole. On the other hand, I think Percheron Mules is one of the stronger tracks here, although I’m not exactly a fan of the Jordanaires-esque backing vocals on the arrangement.
September 9, 2023 @ 9:13 am
“There’s nothing remotely political about the In Your Love video.”
As I said in the review, there is nothing inherently political in the video itself. It is simply a portrayal. But you are not releasing a video like that into a vacuum. Of course it’s going to be perceived as political. To act like it won’t be is to be so aggressively naive, it would be laughable.
And of course it was meant to be taken as political. Everybody involved in that video absolutely wanted it to be controversial. If it wasn’t controversial, it would have been ineffective, and a failure.
If you search on social media, you will see strong proponents of the video arguing with other strong proponents of the video saying “Hell yeah it’s political. How dare you say it isn’t political. Life is political. Everything is political.”
September 9, 2023 @ 9:54 am
I mean, the political side of the issue was settled 20 years ago when Tyler was 12 years old and four Republican appointees to the Supreme Court joined the majority in determining that anti-sodomy laws were unconstitutional. There is still a moral issue, obviously, and people can have differing opinions on that. But there are plenty of country songs and videos depicting drug and alcohol use, sex, adultery, and occasionally even physical violence and Tyler has written about most of those topics himself. So it isn’t clear to me why the depiction of the gay couple in the video would be a bridge too far for country fans in general and Tyler’s fans in particular, even if they do consider such relationships to be a moral.wrong.
September 9, 2023 @ 10:14 am
What better way to try & take some of the heat off his boy, Bryan, than for Trig to stir the pot, with this article.
There is much good to be said about Tyler.
There is much good, also, to be said about this album.
However, spin to divert attention from Zach Bryan being a total prick, has to be launched.
Trig, by no means, intends to crucify Bryan, like he tried to do with Wallen.
But, as Trig has proclaimed before – he has been writing for a long time now, and he knows what he’s doing.
How to conjure dissent, inflame, with the introduction of political topics, where none really exist, etc.
Remember, the current goal is to take attention away from Bryan’s bad behaviour.
September 9, 2023 @ 11:08 am
What the fuck are you talking about, Di? What a deranged, mentally-ill non-sequitur this is.
I have been purposely NOT created click-bait off the Zach Bryan story to the tune of probably losing THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS from that editorial decision. As every single other website on the plant posted new articles when 1) Zach released his video, 2) The police report was released 3) The dascam video was released, I’ve simply updated the original story, not to be exploitative of the situation. Now I have to get shit from my own readers from not turning this website into TMZ?
What did I post? A review for Ashley McBryde, which 90% of you motherfuckers ignored. Then I posted a review for Tyler Childers. One of the reasons I did NOT want to post incessant stories about Zach Bryan is because he shaded out the Turnpike Troubadours on their release date, and I didn’t want Zach coverage to once again shade out the top releases this week.
That said, I have covered the Zach Bryan arrest, updated the story, and will have more on it soon. But this is a music website, and so the music is always going to be the focus. This review was about breaking through the political polarization of this moment to enjoy music. And for you take it in this deranged direction is an much of an insult to the music as anything else.
Divert attention from Zach Bryan? Fuck off.
September 9, 2023 @ 11:27 am
: D Oh, calm down.
So – let’s talk music.
The one song i have listened to on Tyler’s new album is Phone Calls and Emails.
It is a Great song.
The tempo, the instrumentation, Tyler’s vocals, & timing.
Give credit where credit is due.
Tyler isn’t an egomaniac.
He is a smart, clever, musician.
September 9, 2023 @ 11:37 am
“What did I post? A review for Ashley McBryde, which 90% of you motherfuckers ignored.”
Well, this is one m’f-er who has lauded Ashley McBryde several times in the past months, along with Caylee Hammack, and Pillbox Patti, and the genius of McBryde’s Lindeville.
So, back it up, Buckwheat
September 9, 2023 @ 12:17 pm
I agree that Di is batshit, but I’m not sure why you’re mad at us for not reading the McBride review. She already has an audience of millions, and she’s not very Country. Why are you surprised that people aren’t really interested in reviews about kuhjillionaires?
And I’ve never fucked my mother.
September 9, 2023 @ 3:40 pm
: D Awwww, Bless your heart, Jerry.
Di’s crazy like a fox.
But, Bless your heart for sucking up
September 9, 2023 @ 4:49 pm
Not sure how my comment was sucking up. Far from it actually. You’re definitely not one who should be playing that card. Foxes are cute. Batshit is not cute.
September 13, 2023 @ 8:35 pm
Fuck off Di
September 9, 2023 @ 4:30 pm
“So it isn’t clear to me why the depiction of the gay couple in the video would be a bridge too far for country fans in general and Tyler’s fans in particular.”
I understand what you’re trying to say. And I agree, this shouldn’t be an issue in 2023. But it is. Believing it’s not is choosing to be willfully ignorant. All one has to do is navigate the comments sections of anything mentioning Tyler Childers and see the strong rebukes people have for him going “woke.” You can start on Facebook if you wish.
I honestly believe that the tolerance for something like the “In Your Love” video would have been greater 20 years ago. As I tried to explain in the review, it’s the fact that some people feel like they’re constantly being preached down to that is allowing intolerant feelings to bubble up. That is why I fear some of these attempts to spread tolerance are counter-productive.
September 9, 2023 @ 6:00 pm
The issue is Trig you’re pointing out the loud minority on both sides here. Most people couldn’t care less about the video and think it’s neat and the song is good.
Of course, anything you release these days will find its way into controversy on the internet, it doesn’t matter what you do. I don’t think Tyler meant the video to be inherently political. It’s a fact that Appalachia tends to have more conservative leaning views and hasn’t historically adapted to change as well as other parts of society. So yes, it is a statement to release the video and highlight his cousin and what they might have experienced.
But citing that you looked up and saw people on each side of the issue being annoying and extreme is not solid evidence for your point. I can look up anything and find the same “evidence”
September 11, 2023 @ 5:04 am
I agree. Way too much ink here dedicated to a very small minority. This is different than those who were put off by Isbell.
SCM comment section is not a reflection of the general population. Most Childer fans have either never seen the video or saw it and moved on.
September 9, 2023 @ 8:36 am
Imo the album was amazing and a definite step up from his last one. And as for the track list being shorter and shorter since purgatory here is a quote from this article https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/06/arts/music/tyler-childers-rustin-in-the-rain.html ““Rustin’ in the Rain” is a succinct seven songs, which is very intentional. Childers’s albums “are getting shorter as they go,” he said. “A countdown.” What happens when he gets to one? “I go home,” he said — to his mules, his wife and their baby boy, and to his farm. To his own rural story.”
September 9, 2023 @ 8:58 am
That quote makes me even more disappointed and frustrated over how Tyler Childers is taking his fans for granted, and short changing them. That statement is total marketing, and if the writer of that article, Marissa R. Moss, was an actual journalist as opposed to a political apparatchik, she would have challenged Tyler Childers on this point, asked why fans were charged a full LP price for what could be considered a EP-length album, and the track list and the track length was purposely withheld from the public by Tyler’s label and publicity because they knew there would be criticism for the length and the amount of cover songs.
Is Jason Isbell somehow less of a father and husband because he just released a new album of 13 original songs?
Short changing your fans is not an act of artistic expression, and it’s insulting to imply such. Tyler Childers is recycling material, leaning on cover songs, and seeming to do everything he can to release as little original music as possible. The only forgivable statement for this behavior would be “RCA is screwing me, so I’m just trying to fulfill my contact.” But so far, he’s given no indication this is the case.
As I said in the review, I like this album and I believe it’s a step in the right direction from the last two that were also low effort releases. But don’t feed me bullshit. That quote explains nothing. It makes it worse.
September 9, 2023 @ 9:50 am
Do you think there is a phrase you have had to say more than “As I said in the review?”
I listened to the album out of curiosity. It’s better than expected, but I expected total shit. I don’t see myself listening to it again. For one there is better music out there. And secondly, fuck Marissa Inc.
September 9, 2023 @ 12:34 pm
I’m so over these musicians that sign record deals and then act like it’s a huge inconvenience to make music for a living. So many artists have acted like it’s such a chore to do this, as if they didn’t pursue it to begin with.
September 10, 2023 @ 8:29 am
Yeah, if he’s serious about this there’s just no way I’m going to be counting down the days until his three-song “album” is released. If he only has 21 songs left in him I would much rather have two good albums than four EP’s and a couple singles.
September 10, 2023 @ 10:45 am
I am completely unable to understand your point. Is there something we are missing? Some people can write a lot of songs and others can’t. John Fullbright releases an album every 500 years. I am not sure how we can be angry that we don’t get enough songs. I am a fan of his music and happy that he released anything at all.
September 10, 2023 @ 11:28 am
RJ,
I tried to be as expressive as possible both in the review and in comments that I don’t blame Tyler Childers for writing more original songs. If he doesn’t have the fire for it, then he doesn’t have the fire, and I don’t want him slap dashing out tracks just to fulfill some arbitrary quota. All I’m saying is don’t turn that dearth of new songs into some sort of creative expression in itself while charging consumers full LP prices. This really comes down to a packaging and consumer issue for me, and I’d be a hypocrite to call out Garth for this, and space Tyler.
Another issue here is Tyler has had plenty of original songs through out the last six years to fill out albums with. He’s just saving them back for a rainy day, and when he does release them, many of his fans already wore them out four years ago on YouTube.
Tyler should do what he wants. But maybe wait until he has ten new good songs in his pocket, and then people will stop complaining about this issue.
September 14, 2023 @ 10:01 am
Spot on about ‘changing’ his fans Trig… but i wouldnt say changing the fans as much as transitioning to a new fanbase.
Originally rose within his own state writing songs that spoke to real Kentucky folks, people catch wind of authenticity and latch on, Sturgill and his experemental self connected with Tyler for Purgatory and suddenly he’s the songwriter of a generation…. followed by a new direction musically and lyrically, each album consecutively degrading in quality while rising in marketing and price, controversial video challenging values of his audience while the controversial element itself attracts entirely new fans, just posted his new album advertised on Times Square, and just sold out 2 nights in MSG… hard to ignore this sequence of events and believe the best is yet to come for TC.
September 9, 2023 @ 8:39 am
To be honest, Rustin in the Rain made me yawn at first listen. The classic country sounds like it was lifted off of a traditional standard, the words changed but the melodies are the same. Nothing really new to see here. I am happy he has so much “love” pouring from his heart but it’s not really where I am these days. Also disagree with the Post Purgatory comment. I would say Post Country Squire his releases haven’t been up to par. I think after Country Squire, he is trying to do things on his own with his band and it is falling flat. I hope he brings back the production from Purgatory and Country Squire on his next release
September 9, 2023 @ 8:40 am
I don’t agree with the rating (I know opinions are like a-holes). There is nothing here that is remarkable. Rustin in the rain is a fine song and in your love almost grabs me but it falls short with the rambling chorus. It appears Childers has lost it. Compare this to the songwriting Evan Felker just put out and it’s very apparent he’s fallen behind. There is nothing on this album that can even begin to sniff the songwriting on tracks like Lucille or Cat in The Rain. In fact I would go as far to say if Childers just released Cat In The Rain we would be lauding it as Album of The Year.
September 9, 2023 @ 9:37 am
A Cat in the Rain blows this out of the water. If this wasn’t Childers it wouldn’t even be a footnote it would be forgotten and never even listened to
September 10, 2023 @ 4:38 am
Completely agree
September 9, 2023 @ 8:44 am
You could make a pretty decent album out of the last three Childers releases.
That’s not a compliment though.
I get that I’m old and most people don’t give a monkeys uncle about “albums” these days but when you put on the Sturgill produced records, they flow. They’re of a piece. Everything since then seems like standout songs realised with a lot of flim-flam hanging off around them.
The high stench of cheese coming off this and ‘Hounds’ in place spurs me off the whole Childers juggernaut… and that’s before we get to the fact I paid $60 for the vinyl reales of ‘Hounds’. SIXTY DOLLARS. For what? 2 decent songs?
I know, I shouldn’t be sitting around listening to records like it’s the 80s. I should make me up a streaming playlist of the wheat and forget about the chaff… but I don’t know. I think if Childers went into the studio with a good producer again, we could get something gold.
I’ll keep my fingers crossed for that.
September 9, 2023 @ 8:45 am
This is the review of this album that I’ve been waiting for. I’ve seen others out there, but I wanted to read this one first, because I knew it would be a real review. After listening to it a couple of times, I have already made made up my mind that I like it pretty much all the way through. And I enjoy In Your Love more now when listening to the whole album. Maybe because there is a lot of good country music on the album and I can enjoy In Your Love as a song that a bit of a departure from the rest (like Universal Sound from Purgatory). Still, I was interested in what you had to say about it.
My feeling on this album is similar to what I felt about Bob Dylan’s Chronicles Volume 1 book from about 20 years ago. I really enjoyed it, but wanted much more. Also, it makes me want to go back and revisit Can I Take My Hounds to Heaven. As a music fan, his releases that resonates the most with me are Purgatory, Country Squire and Live on Red Barn Radio. And yeah, I might wish that he was a bit more traditional as far as how he releases music (more like Isbell – album of originals every 2 to 3 years). But he is a unique artist and the times they are a-changin’.
September 9, 2023 @ 8:52 am
Just listened to the whole album while drinking my morning coffee and reading the news. I don’t remember a single song. Absolutely nothing stuck with me.
I think Tyler’s just not doing much for me anymore. Sad for a guy that spawned so many imitators. He just does not seem to be at the top of his game anymore, and hasn’t been since at least 2019. Too harsh?
September 9, 2023 @ 9:54 pm
Kind of going the same route as Sturgill, just doing what he wants to do. Doesn’t care about how much his fans like at. At least he’s not like Zach Bryan, doing the same stuff every single album
September 11, 2023 @ 5:09 am
On the other hand though – Zach Bryan very much seems to care about his fans. It seemed like Sturgill was almost annoyed at how popular his own music got.
September 11, 2023 @ 8:10 am
I wouldn’t put Tyler in the same boat as Sturgill. Sturgill did what he wanted, sure, but it was always interesting and engaging. Never heard a boring Sturgill album.
I’m saying this Tyler Childers album is middling at best – especially at seven tracks, 28 minutes long, which in my mind is an EP not an LP.
September 9, 2023 @ 8:52 am
Better than I thought it would be, and good for him for that.
This right here couldn’t have been said any better though:
“But for some, it’s not the video content specifically. It’s the preachy, didactic nature of how all of this stuff comes across to them. It’s the way the press and elite society speak down to people, and virtue signal often to shield themselves from their own trespasses, bigotry, or hypocrisy.”
He didn’t have to do it like that.
September 9, 2023 @ 9:12 am
I really like Space and Time, as well as Phone Calls and Emails. I also liked In Your Love from the moment I heard it. The piano was a shock at first, but grew on me. I heard that song before the video controversy & it’s not a “gay love song.” It’s just a love song. It made me think of my husband, and I thought about Tyler & his wife. I’ve never watched the video (who watches those anymore?), but I have obviously heard about the controversy and all I have to say is: it’s a video. If you don’t like it, or cannot relate to it, don’t watch it. Listen to the song and enjoy it as it is- it’s just a love song that anyone could possibly relate to just by listening to it as-is. All that aside, something about the overall production of the album is off to me. It’s not like the Zach Bryan non-production, it’s more like over-production. I cannot put my finger on it… not sure if anyone else feels that way.
Listening to it I thought he really missed an opportunity to beef up the track list with one more cover: Floyd Cramer’s Last Date. With so much emphasis on piano, I think he and the Food Stamps missed an opportunity for a real banger! (Only half joking!)
September 9, 2023 @ 9:14 am
I like this record . I felt hounds was a misstep because by sounds of it he had enough gospel material for a proper double or triple album. There’s 7 strong songs here too and he could have recorded more but I like this record. I’ve read somewhere he’s already new stuff. Off to see charley crockett tonight
September 9, 2023 @ 9:16 am
Great little record. Haven’t seen the music video, but the song sounds to me like he wrote it about his wife. Music videos are stupid
September 9, 2023 @ 9:29 am
Minor point: artists who write have more of an argument to be heard about what they write about. They create with ideas.
On the other hand, I automatically disregard what other popular people and artists say. Actors, pundits, celebrities. Don’t care, even if I agree.
September 9, 2023 @ 9:33 am
Man I wanted to like this album. I’m one that must separate the artist from the music but if I didn’t do that I wouldn’t like most all music. Been a fan since bottles and bibles but everything after Country Squire just sucks so bad. Honestly shocked it got this high a score and good a review. He sounds like he’s trying to overusing everything and sounds like a squealing cat or high pitched hound dog chasing a bear.
September 9, 2023 @ 10:03 am
Love the piano, pedal steel, & tempo of, Phone Calls and Emails.
Fun, kicked back song.
September 10, 2023 @ 6:30 am
I can’t stand EPs and to top it off there’s cover songs on it as well. Not even worth reviewing in my opinion just based on that.
September 10, 2023 @ 8:59 am
I understand what you are saying.
Really liked phone Calls and Emails.
There was just something about it, in the rhythm & tempo. The piano, and pedal steel.
Was surprised liked it, actually.
But, because of Hoptown’s and RJ’s comments, now want to listen to the entire EP.
September 9, 2023 @ 10:22 am
I hate this album and I’ve loved everything he’s ever done except the fiddle album. Sometimes it takes me a while to warm up to songs but I can’t get through Phone Calls, Luke or Mules. Rustin in the Rain is fine, but kind of blah. Space and Time is good but not better than the original. He released Help Me Make it Through the Night Years ago. I like In Your Love a lot.
September 9, 2023 @ 10:24 am
I love it. This is the closest recorded project to what Tyler sounds like in concert. I don’t give a damn it’s only 7 tracks; there’s not one skip. And what is an album in the digital age?
Some of the songs have been enhanced, upgraded from their live counterparts. Percheron Mules with the The Travelin’ McCourys playful rollercoaster backup vocals (and excellent pickin’) is COUNTRY GOLD.
And even Margo Price’s angelic vocals on Luke 2: 8-10 harken back to a golden era of country music.
Phone Calls & Emails made my momma cry!
Where Hounds felt like a fan piece, this album stands on its own merit. I love the practice of playing songs live in concert for years before properly recording them. Like you mentioned on Help Me Make it Through the Night, he’s mastered the vocals and perfect every corner of the song.
I wouldn’t be surprised we get another 7, 8 track album next year at this time packed with other previously unrecorded concert staples.
September 9, 2023 @ 10:27 am
His guitar player, Jesse Wells, is awful. Always off rhythm, missing notes. I do not understand it. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills every time I listen to him trying to play guitar.
September 9, 2023 @ 7:08 pm
You’re not the first person to say that in the comments here, and elsewhere.
September 10, 2023 @ 10:49 am
Agreed. This band has never been that tight. Sometimes it’s hard to listen to but it is a welcome relief from most modern releases with tracks full of Nashville cats. Same with ZB, dude must not know how to tune a guitar but it’s authentic at least.
September 9, 2023 @ 10:51 am
Not bad. Had the same “Eh” reaction to Hounds.
Like Hounds, my personal issue is that I don’t get anything from listening to this. I find it to be mostly boring and lifeless. Nothing against Tyler because I like him a lot, but these past two albums have felt like someone creating a product as opposed to making art.
The single was a nice love song, but I doubt I’ll ever listen to this album ever again.
September 9, 2023 @ 11:15 am
Just get over sodomy. It’s the current year
September 9, 2023 @ 7:45 pm
It’s 2023. The digestive tract is now part of the reproductive system.
Seriously though, the “right side of history” line that gets used so often has always been so stupid, for a couple of reasons.
First, the idea that the more time that passes, the more we must accept or normalize things that were more normalized and accepted in the Roman empire and in ancient Greece than they are now, is inherently regressive, not progressive. Like, if this behavior is progress, then why is it thousands of years past its prime?
Secondly, I can’t wrap my mind around the absurd idea that the passing of time imputes virtue or morality onto anything that comes along. “This new thing or idea is better than that old thing simply because it’s newer.” is logically fallacious.
September 11, 2023 @ 4:43 am
“The digestive tract is now part of the reproductive system”
sounds like you’ve never gotten head? Try it out and maybe you’ll change your tune
September 11, 2023 @ 10:54 am
Hey Jorbits,
So what you’re saying is that we need to convince everyone that wrenches are exactly the same as hammers when it comes to driving nails, and that we should require wrench manufacturers to package wrenches for the purpose of hammering nails, and that if anyone objects to using wrenches for hammering nails that they are anti-physics.
I know you thought you had a clever comeback, but if I were you, I’d ask Trigger to delete it, so that you can think about it and try again.
Your logic is: “If X can be used for Y, then Y is the purpose of X.”
“If a wrench can be used to drive a nail, then driving a nail is the purpose of a wrench.”
“If a rifle can be used as a walking stick, then walking is the purpose of a rifle.”
September 11, 2023 @ 5:19 am
The reason to accept gay couples is not because it’s a “newer idea” or because “it’s the right side of history”. That’s twisting words to hide a hateful view
Gay couples love each other the same way straight couples do and they present no harm to others. If you don’t want your particular church to marry them, that’s fine. If you don’t like the agenda pushing and corporate ads, that’s fine too.
Tyler’s video simply showed a gay couple that loved each other. It’s something as natural and rooted in human history as anything else. And it has nothing to do with the culture wars being fought on Fox and CNN
September 11, 2023 @ 10:58 am
Hi Tom,
It’s not twisting words, not even remotely. The Rainbow Nationalists have been using the “right side of history” line for at least 3 decades, and you know they have. I’ve just pointed out how stupid it is, so you’re trying to retcon it in real-time.
Define “love” Tom, objectively, without making any appeal to emotion.
September 11, 2023 @ 12:13 pm
I think you misread my reply. I am not arguing in favor of “the right side of history”. That phrase means nothing to me, and it’s not the best way of thinking about things.
I’d rather not get into debating different definitions of love with a stranger on the internet. It doesn’t matter.
What matters is that Tyler’s video showed two people who cared for each other and were committed to each other. If that bothers someone, who is not in that relationship, that is their own problem to deal with.
We do not need to agree on the same beliefs, but we must still respect those who differ from us. (Note that I am speaking generally, this is not necessarily directed at you)
September 9, 2023 @ 11:20 am
I hope that he doesn’t follow through with the ‘dropping a song on every release as countdown to retirement’ conceit. Cool and high concept on paper but destined to make every album less exciting than the last one. Obviously it’s his career, but it’d be a shame for one of the most talented people working in country music to just fizzle out like that, and all we’re left with are a bunch of overrated folkies with beards yowling condescendingly about their girlfriends.
This is excellent stuff, regardless — almost exactly what I want modern country music to sound like – only disappointment is the lack of fiddle.
September 9, 2023 @ 6:03 pm
The countdown thing would be fun if you had a progressive band, whether that’s progressive rock, metal, bluegrass or whatever; and you’re getting 45-50 minutes an album with longer songs. Then your final album is one song with different movements/themes. But I don’t see Childers doing that. It honestly does sound like a stupid thing for him to say.
September 9, 2023 @ 11:29 am
Childers finally releasing Space and Time is better than the entire new Zach Bryan album.
September 9, 2023 @ 11:53 am
“Tyler Childers may be keeping his nose out of the pills these days, but he’s not keeping it on the grindstone.”
This would have made a great byline.
September 9, 2023 @ 12:18 pm
He like Sturgill has never convinced me as genuine. Both have some good songs but for me both have not produced a good album. I know others will disagree but we will all have our own opinion. Whatever your view on homosexuality, it is what it is and I am not sure the video helps the song ‘in your love’ but it did spark debate and maybe that was its purpose or maybe just to get headlines for sales. Whatever, it is a good song. It is an album with a few good songs. I do like Phone calls and e-mails. Just 7 songs does make it a short album but overall it is pretty good. Still not convinced by him though. I think he has potential.
September 9, 2023 @ 12:25 pm
I whole heartedly agree that SG’s version of Space and Time is the best. She’s a Hell of an artist that Tyler’s cover isn’t as good as hers.
September 9, 2023 @ 12:25 pm
Well I’m one of those I guess you mentioned in the review. I saw the video to In your love and didn’t get through it. While I believe people are free to make their choices n such .and I feel it’s ok for the artist to write their songs and make their videos the way they want but that doesn’t mean I have to watch it, like it, or agree with the message that seemed to be being sent. And the way it works for me if the artist makes a video about a song that isn’t just them playing the song, I take it that’s how they meant the song to be. So I can’t say the songs open for interpretation especially when they specify it to be so. So taking that out since I didn’t and won’t give it a full listen, I did listen to the rest. I didn’t like it at all but I wasn’t a fan before. The music n the songs themselves aren’t bad, I just can’t stand his voice. This is just one of those people that are big with a lot of the fanbase but I just can’t get into. I don’t think I would stop and listen to him if he was singing for free at the local bar or corner. But sometimes it’s like that. For his fans, I guess it’s mostly great.
September 9, 2023 @ 12:28 pm
I’ve tried wtih this album, I really have. It got multiple spins yesterday because on first listen, I found myself skipping songs; wanted to give it more of a chance, but the same thing kept happening. Overall, this is an incredibly boring album. The first song is great, downhill fast after that.
Since he’s billed it as ‘songs pitched to Elvis’ or whatever, is this a concept album? It just doesn’t seem to work like that. Elvis may have been just aping Black music but he at least had some soul and edge. This is just boring, sappy music with no edge whatsoever. A far cry from Bottles and Bibles.
At least the NYT and NPR crowd seems to like it….
September 9, 2023 @ 4:35 pm
That Elvis line from Tyler was pure sarcasm, and is not to be taken seriously in any way. My guess is his publicist asked him for a quote, he felt stupid giving one, so he gave one that was stupid.
September 10, 2023 @ 2:28 pm
What? The album description literally starts with “Elvis might be dead, but his spirit is alive and well on Tyler Childers’ sixth studio album.”
September 11, 2023 @ 5:26 am
I dunno, I definitely got Elvis vibes on a handful of these songs.
September 9, 2023 @ 12:56 pm
In my opinion, I feel that Tyler has become stale musically. If someone asks me, “”Who do you think is taking country music to new and interesting places?” I wouldn’t even think of mentioning Tyler. To me, he hit his peak during the Country Squire period. I realize this is probably an unpopular opinion.
September 9, 2023 @ 7:17 pm
I don’t think it’s too unpopular. Songs like Matthew, creeker, and Gemini are in a different stratosphere than his most recent releases.
September 9, 2023 @ 12:57 pm
Everything is so polarized now. Outside of news, I’m actively avoiding searching for politics in other spheres. I found it was taking the joy out of country music for me specifically.
I like country music and I like Tyler Childers music. This album was very traditional country which I like a lot. It wasn’t what I was expecting from Childer’s so the first listen was hard to get into. The second listen was smoother and I found myself wanting to go back to the album for a third listen.
September 9, 2023 @ 2:16 pm
Political stuff – don’t care
Not enough songs – don’t care.
This album is rad.
Help me make it through the night may be the best recorded country song I have ever heard – period. The arrangement, the solo, how it gets heavy toward the end, and the subtle vocal inflections make it so incredibly perfect. It may be the perfect country and western song
September 9, 2023 @ 6:14 pm
based take
September 9, 2023 @ 6:48 pm
?
September 14, 2023 @ 10:25 am
Perfect country and western songs must touch on the following topics at least once:
Mama (check)
Trains
Trucks
Prison
Getting drunk
Nope. Perfection averted.
September 9, 2023 @ 2:52 pm
“but has seen mixed to negative results from some of the people who the music of Tyler Childers naturally appeals to”
I mean if people are just now realizing that Tyler falls on the liberal side of policies and can’t separate that, like you said that’s on them. Tyler has been like that since his days of playing Al’s and Green Lantern in Lexington. Furthermore, same people these days that get butt hurt over their artists politician leanings are going to be real mad when they realize how outspoken Cash and others were in their day.
September 13, 2023 @ 9:00 pm
You a fan of Aldean and Oliver anthony and John rich?
September 9, 2023 @ 3:14 pm
I like the instrumentation, but the lyrics are stale, his high notes are pitchy, and his singing is increasingly mannered. The only thing he has going for him at this point is inertia.
September 9, 2023 @ 3:52 pm
Tyler tried to just let the music speak for itself in Long Violent History, but people (Trigger notably included) completely misinterpreted what he was trying to say. The video was necessary because of this.
September 9, 2023 @ 4:08 pm
Nah, that’s bullshit.
The video and the album were released simultaneously on September 18th. My review didn’t come until three days after the album and video were released, on September 21st. I made no other public statements about it before. Tyler should have followed his heart and let the music speak for itself. It was the marketeers that insisted on the video.
September 9, 2023 @ 9:53 pm
Your review came out on 9/21, but your initial article was on 9/17, and was updated on 9/18 to reference the video. (https://savingcountrymusic.com/tyler-childers-drops-surprise-album-long-violent-history/ ).
Internet archive didn’t capture the initial version of the article, but based on the first comments your pre-video version of the article included the line “In the song, Childers appears to be both fighting back against the idea he must share his opinions on contentious matters…”
September 9, 2023 @ 3:52 pm
Both “Rain” albums have been underwhelming.
This album was a complete bore.
September 9, 2023 @ 4:33 pm
I’m as big of a Childers fan boy as any, and thought the album was an interesting listen. And pretty good. But damn his voice can be grating (at certain times when he lets it all out) in this new format of “quieter” songs. The issue may have been the sound system in my ‘83 Land Cruiser consisting of 20 year old 6×9”’s and a subwoofer ☺️. Sturgill did know how to record and find people to mix him better than anyone, though.
September 9, 2023 @ 5:07 pm
Seven songs is an ep. I liked country squire the one time I listened to it, but I don’t see TC being a legend of the genre at any point in history. Good for him though, I love it any time a music hustler can make a living at it. I’ll just stick with being a metal fabrication flunky and write the songs I want to (,or more honestly stick with long enough to finish).
September 9, 2023 @ 7:03 pm
Love the numerical grades lol, please don’t stop with them
September 9, 2023 @ 7:28 pm
….”seen mixed to negative results from some of the people who the music of Tyler Childers naturally appeals to, and perhaps those who need to be reached by the message the most.”….
For what purpose do those people need to be “reached” exactly? If they’re opposed to the message in the video, then they have the correct understanding of natural law. What do they need to be “reached” about?
…..”Heteronormative portrayals of love are commonplace, and there’s no reason why gay ones couldn’t, or shouldn’t be either. We’re 25 years beyond Will & Grace, and gay marriage has been the law of the land for a nearly a decade. You don’t have to love it, but there’s no reason to not accept it, and accept everyone for who they are.”…..
Sure there is, Trig. First of all, be careful using the phrase “who they are”, unless you’re willing to take that to its logical conclusion. If someone loves to murder, is that “who they are”? Should I accept murderers for “who they are”? Adulterers? What about child pornographers, or worse? Is that “who they are”? Should I accept them for “who they are” Trig?
No, I shouldn’t, because none of those things are “who they are”, and neither is same-sex behavior. It’s what they do.
There is only one type of relationship that is normal and acceptable, that being one man and one woman in holy matrimony. Any relationship other than that is deviant. Deviant behavior can’t be celebrated in a civilized society, or it’s no longer civilized. You don’t understand this because your moral compass is dictated by the zeitgeist. As the zeitgeist goes, so goes your belief system, and the belief systems of many others. You bear this out in real-time with your references of a TV show and a Supreme Court decision.
A TV show, and a Supreme Court decision.
September 9, 2023 @ 8:50 pm
Don’t you have a Twitter account to post to? One where you have posted over a thousand times last month alone with nobody ever responding to you. Pretty pathetic.
September 10, 2023 @ 6:31 am
Good Morning Blair,
Yes I do; thank you for noticing. I just joined last month. It’s my understanding that one most post and reply frequently to be picked up by the algorithm, particularly if you are not a celebrity. If you know of a better way to build a following, please advise.
September 10, 2023 @ 7:26 am
Something tells me you are going to be disappointed…
September 10, 2023 @ 10:14 am
Bummer.
September 10, 2023 @ 2:05 pm
What a sad little person you are. You are not even close to being an intellectual, actually the complete opposite.
September 10, 2023 @ 8:05 pm
????
September 9, 2023 @ 8:05 pm
Great review and we’ll articulated regarding the pushback he’s gotten. It’s not always bigotry. Sometimes the smell of preachy, moral-highground just stinks. Some folks noses are sharper than others. Anyway, fantastic article and I agree this is good country music.
September 10, 2023 @ 6:08 am
“There’s a lot of noise in music these days, and that noise often drowns out the music itself.”
The first line is the the most telling line the whole review. The few comments I have read, most which have nothing to do with the songs on the album, show this to be true. Childers has now put himself in a place where his support will not come from fans who love his music, but from politically like minded people and media who are compelled to defend him for his message.
He may have won some fans who are detracted by his message back with a great album here, but honestly, this album peaks with the first song and continually fades from there. Unfortunately for Childers, his musical output and career seems to be following the same course.
September 10, 2023 @ 10:19 am
Haven’t cared for the last three releases including this one. The spark is either gone or he needs to take some time off and let his creative batteries recharge and allow his ideas to mature. I don’t care about his politics at all, but the cynical side of me thinks he’s playing to mainstream progressivism in an attempt to broaden his appeal and increase sales.
September 10, 2023 @ 2:01 pm
The spark is hardly gone. Notice how he keeps getting more popular? You probably, like some others would be happy if he just kept repeating himself and not trying new things and taking his music in different directions. Luckily this is not the case. Go to one of his shows and get back to us.
September 10, 2023 @ 3:53 pm
Popularity means little. Maybe you’re also of the opinion that Tyler Swift is the pinnacle of musical artistry given her sales.
First two releases were far better than the last three in my opinion. Note that last word.
September 10, 2023 @ 4:38 pm
So you just want him to repeat himself. Got it. And bringing up Taylor Swift? That analogy is a poor one.
September 10, 2023 @ 1:57 pm
So tired of Zach Bryan even being mentioned in the same breath as Tyler Childers. He may be popular but he is not even close to being in the same league as a songwriter, singer, bandleader or performer.
As for Tyler, he continues to put out great music, each new album being different than the one before which is how it should be. As for his latest video, it’s about love and has nothing to do with politics. Anyone who sees it differently just doesn’t get it.
September 11, 2023 @ 4:03 am
…seven songs is an ep that spinned slightly out of control. then again, if you can sing what you have to say in seven titles only that’ll be fair enough in my book – an clever. it perhaps leaves some material for the next album and as it goes right now: most money is made shortly after the releas – even if you are morgan wallen.. more of a smart cookie than a fudge round this red haired appalachian child.
September 11, 2023 @ 5:01 am
I don’t understand the second half of this review. You covered that some people are turned off by Tyler in the very beginning. Why are there 8 more paragraphs on the subject at the end?
Tyler Childers was not politically confrontational in the ways Isbell was. I lean relatively left, but I can understand why some felt attacked by some of Isbell’s lyrics and especially his tweets.
Tyler Childer’s video was not an attack or agenda pushing. It was simply a love story that happened to feature a gay couple. If people have a big reaction to that, that’s their issue. Tyler did nothing to provoke this reaction. Their reaction isn’t worth bogging down 50% of a great album review.
And I agree, this felt like a half-measured effort. Great songs, but hopefully more in store.
September 11, 2023 @ 7:18 am
1) Something I haven’t mentioned yet in the numerous comments that I have responded to about this is how the call went out from the Tyler Childers camp the day before the “In Your Love” video went out to clear the decks because Tyler Childers was going to “break the internet.” I will give the benefit of the doubt to Childers that he meant for the video to just be a love story. You would have to be a fool to not understand that the video was going to stir political discussion on both sides of the aisle (which it very clearly did) and was released to create great attention to Tyler’s project.
2) Again, multiple articles and multiple discussions from proponents of the video argue strongly that of course it is political, and it is imperative that it be taken as political. This isn’t my unilateral assertion. This is the assertion of a lot of people.
3) As I’ve said in other comments here, my job is not to articulate to people who already like this album and have no problem with the video why they like it. That’s called pandering, or preaching to the choir. My job is to try and persuade the skeptical. I did that by speaking to their concerns. Any time I do this, there are people that say, “But why did you spend so much time on this !?!” and they often completely ignore the conclusion of the review, which is that people should put their political acrimony aside and enjoy an album of great country music.
September 11, 2023 @ 7:44 am
Trigger – I wanted to offer a couple of thoughts about album lengths and retail prices that you bring up.
Production costs for making and releasing a vinyl record for sale don’t vary based on album length. A 15 minute record costs as much as a 40 minute record to produce. It does not make sense to expect a record to cost less because it is shorter.
But I do understanding the sentiment of not getting enough bang for ones buck when shelling out $40+ dollars for a record, no matter its length or content. Modern day vinyl record prices are too inflated across the board, pushing them almost out of the realm of being accessible to the everyday person, into the realm of luxury purchase. I used to purchase 2-3 LPs weekly on release Tuesdays (remember those?) but had to stop because I simply cannot afford records anymore. But that is a whole other conversation.
Let us remember that one silver lining in the dark cloud of streaming is that listeners have the opportunity to preview a record in full before making the decision to shell out hard-earned money on it, rather than the (good old?) days of blindly buying and hoping for the best. Today their are no surprises, for better or worse. The power is fully in the listener’s hands as to whether or not to financially support an artist via purchase of their product, no matter their reasons or intentions for making it. But that value is for the purchaser to decide. I don’t really think it helpful to expect artists to adjust their pricing or output to meet what listeners might arbitrarily expect from them or what the appropriate content / price ratio should be.
Lastly, my opinion about the length of albums – I am personally happy to see artists trimming back their album lengths to a consumable 30-40 minutes from the bloated levels of the CD era, when artists felt the need to pad album to the 70 minute CD capacity. Now, if we could figure out a way to get the prices down back to the $18-20 range again, I would be a happy purchaser!
September 11, 2023 @ 8:50 am
Politics aside, I find it rather ironic that he opens this album by likening himself to a plow that wants to be worked, not left idle. Considering his recent songwriting output, it seems an odd metaphor for him to strike.
Some ramblings I am hesitant to offer, but here goes: When I look at his best work from the past (in my unprofessional opinion, songs like Feathered Indians, Lady May, Country Squire, Follow you to Virgie, etc), it seems TC generally employed a witty, often humorous form of self-deprecation in his writing that generally did not cross the line into self-loathing. There was a levity to his songs that did not undercut the seriousness of what he was writing about – I think Lady May is a great example of that.
I have not felt that humorous or witty attitude in his songs in the releases since Country Squire. Everything is so darn serious. And when the arrangement seeks to introduce levity, as with Rustin in the Rain, the songs still lack the same character.
TC used to find the balance between gravity and wit. I just don’t hear it anymore – maybe his worldview has changed, maybe he thinks some things are so serious they should not involve wit or humor. That would certainly align with the political-ideological sickness much of our nation allows itself to remain gripped by. To me, though, it just isn’t all that moving or interesting, and it certainly is not what he is best at.
September 11, 2023 @ 12:29 pm
Well said, totally agree.
It’s what happens when the desire to create political effects subjugates the impulse to create art.
September 11, 2023 @ 3:27 pm
Yep, levity went with the quality, or the other way around. Very well put.
September 11, 2023 @ 4:15 pm
“Everything is so darn serious.”
Is it not Ok for Tyler to express seriousness in his lyrics?
Is he only allowed to express certain sentiments?
I do believe art in it’s purest form, comes from what the heart has to say.
Why paint Tyler into a corner?
September 12, 2023 @ 5:38 pm
I thought by “serious” he meant that deadly political seriousness that turns every interaction into an opportunity for political persuasion. Tyler not only had wit in his lyrics, and deep ferling, but he had this uncanny ability to sound country and courtly at the same time. Lee’s dignity, the dignity of that Civil War soldier’s letter to his beloved before he was killed in battle, the dignity of square-shouldered posture in poverty. I think a lot of us heard in Tyler’s voice a whole world that lay behind it, a world we still wanted to love, not “Tyler’s opinions” or “Tyler’s various ways of bringing us around to his point of view.” All of that ends up feeling manipulative. When we get reduced to being a platform, the joy of life goes out the window, and it’s replaced by the grim determination of politics.
But it’s a free country … sort of.
September 12, 2023 @ 6:53 pm
Thank you for the extended explanation.
Understand better what Capn, you, and Euro South are saying.
“But it’s a free country … sort of.”
Not in Maui, where rampant genocide just took place.
September 14, 2023 @ 5:26 am
There had better be a reckoning. Part of OA’s appeal is that he knows a war when he sees one.
September 14, 2023 @ 8:54 am
Corncaster,
An interesting video for your perusal, when you can carve a few minutes out of your day.
https://youtu.be/9cuPuhuYfws?si=d3yTnbXH–sO_TFZ
This is just one video.
There are more from Maui residents who have lived on the Island for years.
Low-balling the numbers of people killed.
Number of dead is in the hundreds if not, thousand …
Hawaiians have been making beautiful music for millennia.
Maybe am particularly incensed at what happened on Maui, because my people went through their own genocide.
This evil has GOT to stop
September 11, 2023 @ 6:28 pm
I was pretty sure that on a site whose title/domain name is definitely a dog whistle, that there would be crazy comments about his “In Your Love” song. It’s like y’all want to (foolishly & ignorantly) believe that gay, trans…etc folks don’t exist in this part of the country. I am very proud to say that I I am less than an hour from where Childers lived. Maybe he wants to use his music to make a statement on the treatment of minorities in this country? Could that be it? If you would put your bullsh*t religion aside, you’d realize that there is literally no justification for the treatment and exclusion of the LGBTQ+ community. Same goes for the Black community. There are what…? Like less than 5 Black country artists currently? I also think that your interpretation of his songs and humor is way off. I think a lot of the time, he’s being ironic and making a statement that you just don’t get or understand. Just sayin. ????????♂️????
September 13, 2023 @ 8:48 pm
We want everyone to be a fan and make country music. The difference is the vast majority of fans, and artists are straight, normal, believe in the reality of two genders and don’t like being preached at, lectured, or shamed for their beliefs and political leanings. If a gay person wants to love country music, I’m all for it. It’s great music, welcome! If a gay person wants to force in their beliefs, Shame straight people, and force in nefarious cultural Marxist, and identity politics into the songs or their art, we aren’t down with that. That has NO place in this culture. No one here has a problem with gay people. Conservatives aren’t homophobic. Do conservatives avoid those dangerous gay neighborhoods and worry about being carjacked in predominantly gay neighborhoods? The phobic part is non existent in 2023. Conservatives don’t want ideologies stuffed down our throats or our kids being messed with. Simple as.
September 13, 2023 @ 8:41 pm
Yes, he decided woke Sjw country music is what people want. Karen Morris, Mickey, Isbell, Sturgill and Tyler are all of the mistaken belief that country music audience is liberal and leftist. We aren’t. Marxism needs to leave. Marxism has no fucking place in country music, in Nashville, in the USA or in our world. It must be rooted out and completely destroyed. Tyler big upped blm in 2020. Blm is a racist paramilitary organization that wants to destroy nuclear families. I won’t support blm now, tomorrow or ever. Blm isn’t a cause I stand by.
September 12, 2023 @ 5:35 am
I like, don’t love, the album. Between this and CITMHTH it comes across as lazy to be using covers and recycled songs he’s previously recorded. They’re good songs but it feels like they should be used as “bonus” material as opposed to the core of the album. An artist is entitled to their art and creative expression, but the farther from Purgatory and Country Squire we get the less I find myself “fiend-ing” for Childers.
September 12, 2023 @ 9:12 am
I watched the Turnpike Troubadour’s’ set from Stagecoach 2023 last week and thoroughly enjoyed it, what a band!! Thanks SCM for turning me onto them. I find Felker’s voice akin to Blue Rodeo’s Jim Cuddy in tone and texture. Amazing songwriter. As for Tyler, I always sort of found his holler to be a bit contrived or something and never really gave him much of a chance. That said, his Stagecoach performance came up on YouTube after the Turnpike set so I watched it. I thought it was stunning. Everything about it. His band (unlike some comments I see above) was tight and tasteful and just full of super interesting ideas. Vocally, Tyler crushed it and I think watching him use that holler in the context of a live performance gave me more of an appreciation for it. I have since been digging into his discography and really dig all of it. I understand the love for Purgatory from most commenters here and I agree, super solid album. Saying that though (and being not as familiar with his YouTube unreleased cuts etc people have discussed) I find his newer albums just as fulfilling. I like the sort of randomness of Rustin’ and I appreciate the three versions of Hounds and the large undertaking of pulling that off.
As for the In Your Love video and blowback, like Trigger said we’d be naive to think this wasn’t done somewhat intentionally but for my I don’t see it as anything hyper political, just a way to present acceptance of love in any shape it may take and to perhaps help slightly chip away at the rotted statue of bigotry towards the queer lifestyle. I’ll just add that people don’t choose to be gay just like nobody chooses to be straight. They are just people being who they naturally are and judging them for that is just plain unnecessary.
September 12, 2023 @ 8:37 pm
The two tracks presented with the review sounded great to me. I need to take in some more of his music.
Thanks Trigger.
September 13, 2023 @ 7:37 am
I just think this guy is boring. a few good songs. I always find gems. but I’m guessing he’ll need to release a couple more albums to have the amount of good songs that can amount to one really good album of 12-15 songs for me.
September 13, 2023 @ 11:54 am
This album doesn’t sound bad; it sounds uninspired. It sounds like a band just trying to put out material so they have something new to sell. I am a huge Childers fan and I give this album a solid 5. Mediocre and boring. God how I miss songs like Purgatory, and Coal. I know band grow and mature and want to play different stuff, but this is as elevator music as it gets. If you just like background noise, this your album.
September 13, 2023 @ 3:40 pm
Late to the comments here. I’ve been playing “In your Love” since it came out. I first watched Tyler’s video of the weekend (not knowing anything about the subject matter). (Ew, really, I thought.) As the video progressed, I was moved by the emotion and love these two had for each other and felt the survivor’s grief. This is a love story, plain and simple. I have to disagree with those who say it moralizes. Doesn’t matter how one leans on the gay love topic, this is an excellent video.