Are Cumulus Media’s NASH Plans Serious, or Just Sizzle?
You see the brown ‘N’ to the right there? If Cumulus Media and its CEO Lew Dickey have their way, in the coming years it will be one of the most recognized brands in North America, especially if you’re a country music fan. The plans that Lew Dickey has for that big brown ‘N’ are ambitious to say the least, and look to permeate just about every segment of the consumer culture of the United States.
Though the flagship for the NASH brand is the Cumulus stable of 70 country radio stations, with access to another 390 Cumulus-owned stations across the country and 1,500 more through the Westwood One radio network, Cumulus and Lew Dickey have made it known that they want to have the NASH brand travel much farther than radio. Cumulus has already secured a deal with long-running periodical Country Weekly to rebrand to NASH Magazine. They have also announced their plans for NASH-branded restaurants and food to solidify the big ‘N’ outside of music. They also reportedly want to make NASH-branded consumer products such as clothing, furniture, and even designer paint. NASH trim packages for trucks could be on the way, and all this goes together with NASH branded tours and musical events, TV specials and online streaming events.
And recently announced, NASH is partnering with Scott Borchetta’s Big Machine Label Group to create a new home for older country artists from the last 25 years called NASH Icons, with the intent of taking talent forgotten by country music’s current Top 40 formula and giving them a new home on the radio, while also releasing new music from older artists through the NASH Icons record label. This talk has country music in a tizzy about how the partnership could enact a format split in country music.
Yes, there’s a whole lot of NASH going on.
Though there has certainly been a rise in interest in country music over the last few years as the genre has branched out to lure in fans of rock, pop, and hip-hop, the plans Cumulus Media have for NASH still come across as quite grandiose and involved, especially for a company that is saddled with tremendous debt, and is facing across-the-board double-digit ratings declines in many of its key markets, including with some of its key NASH stations. It’s flagship country station in New York is floundering, its high debt is eating into any positive revenue news, and it all makes one stand back and wonder, is all this NASH rhetoric real, or is it all smoke and mirrors? Is NASH simply “sizzle” to keep the Cumulus investors and partners believing in Lew Dickey’s vision, or is it the next big event in country music?
Let’s take a look.
The Debt and Revenue Issues
To say that Cumulus is leveraged heavy with debt doesn’t even begin to explain the half of it. The company currently owes roughly $2.23 billion to its debtors, and simply the interest on those loans sufficiently eats into the company’s profits on a quarterly basis. Cumulus is in a situation where even when revenues increase, debt interest still cuts deeply into profits. In December of 2013, Cumulus was able to refinance their debt in a move that will save them roughly $30 to $35 million in interest costs according to Moody’s, but the sheer size of the debt promises to weigh the company down and any of their plans for the near and long term.
As for revenue, for the first quarter of 2014, Cumulus reported a net loss of $9.27 million. This is worse than the $8.99 million loss from the first quarter of 2013, meaning Cumulus continues to lose money, and lose money at a growing rate. There is a small silver lining though. Revenue is actually up for the company. It increased $10.5 million to $292.0 million in the first quarter of 2014 from $281.5 million from Q1 of 2013. The reason for the discrepancy between revenue and net profit? The company’s debt and other expenses eat into any income. Leveraging even more debt and expenses through expenditures or acquisitions may turn the current financial formula even more unfavorably against Cumulus if more spending is necessary to see their plans for the NASH brand materialize.
The Ratings Issue
Simply put, the ratings for many Cumulus Media radio stations are awful. A recent move to replace conservative talk stalwarts Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity on Cumulus with the less-combative Michael Savage has seen a massive ratings dive for the company’s stalwart talk radio franchise. Ratings are down for many of the Cumulus NASH stations as well, including the flagship in New York City where NASH’s syndicated “America’s Morning Show” originates. The show is currently pulling a 1.9 share in New York, which is only good enough for 19th place in the city. In many markets, Clear Channel’s Bobby Bones Show is handedly beating its Cumulus counterpart. In Nashville for example, NASH’s affiliate WKDF-FM 103.3’s ratings are down 45% from a year before, partly due to the fact that Bobby Bones, who bases his show out of Nashville, and has taken over the market’s #1 spot.
Here is a breakdown of some other Cumulus stations, and their precipitous slide:
- WABC/NY down 44%
- KABC/LA down 52%
- WLS/CHI down 57%
- KGO/SF down 58%
- KSFO/SF down 38%
- WBAP/DAL down 32%
- WLS-FM/CHI (Classic Hits) down 45.9%
- KLOS-FM/LA (Classic Rock) down 24.6%
- WGVX-FM/MN (Sports) down 80.8%
- WKDF-FM/Nashville (Country) down 45.2%
- WDVD-FM/Detroit (Hot Adult Contemporary) down 38.3%
- KBEE-FM/SLC (Hot Adult Contemporary) down 50%
The Signing of Artists for NASH Icons
Who Scott Borchetta of Big Machine can sign to the recently-revealed NASH Icons label is going to be key to the success or failure to the venture, or its potential in instigating a format split for country music. On May 27th, in a moment that smacked of publicity sizzle, Lew Dickey announced that Scott Borchetta was aggressively looking to sign Garth Brooks, Faith Hill, Alan Jackson, Shania Twain, and other big-name country stars to the NASH Icons label. “I would look for Scott to make an announcement in the next 30 days,” Lew said, but is Lew just name dropping, and does any label owner, even one with the power of Scott Borchetta, really have the ability to sign a whole stable of big stars in such a short period?
Just because a label wants to sign artists, doesn’t mean they can. Though the contract situations of any artist can be complicated, and buyouts and other such deals are always possible, as first pointed out by Windmills Country, Alan Jackson appears to still be signed with EMI Nashville, hypothetically making him untouchable by NASH Icons. Shania Twain is still signed with Mercury Nashville, and Faith Hill likely still owes Warner Nashville an album. So even if Scott wanted to sign three of these four artists tied to NASH Icons, it might take some serious money or maneuvering. Scott Borchetta has worked with Garth Brooks in the past, and country’s biggest ever superstar is poised for a big comeback at any moment now that his daughter has graduated high school. But it can’t be presumed Garth would work with Borchetta who may not want to sign up for Garth’s no iTunes cause, or a bevy of other major sticking points that could arise between the two big personalities.
For Lew Dickey to drop such prodigious names and expect big signings announced in the manner of a month seems presumptive at the least, and maybe misleading. We’ll see.
The Lew Dickey Issue

To say that Lew Dickey is unliked is an understatement when talking about certain sectors of the radio world and the media. Granted, many of Lew Dickey’s detractors can be found in the conservative media, and stem from Dickey’s handling of Rush Limbaugh and blaming Rush specifically for the precipitous backsliding of the company. Lew Dickey said Rush cost the company “millions” in the aftermath of a brushup between the talk show host and feminine activist Sandra Fluke in February of 2012.
But the Lew Dickey hatred goes deeper. Many radio personalities and insiders have a disagreeable view of Dickey for cutting local jobs to implement syndicated national programming, and generally gaming the radio system without regard for the future of the format.
There is a clear sentiment out there in portions of radio land that Lew Dickey is just puffing his chest out with NASH, and many of the promises for the name won’t be fulfilled, if only because the company won’t have the capital, financial flexibility, or managerial muscle to do it.
What is NASH, Really?
Even if Cumulus and Lew Dickey’s NASH dream becomes fully realized, there won’t be factories erected by Cumulus churning out pallets of NASH paint and leather couches with NASH’s big ‘N’ on the back. These products will likely be made through licensing deals Cumulus will strike with other companies to manufacture the actual products. While this scenario means it’s more likely the dream of an army of NASH products will find their way to a store shelf near you will actually happen, it also means the sale of those products won’t be as financially lucrative for Cumulus as they are for the actual manufacturers if they are successful. Lew Dickey’s bet is that the name recognition is what will pay off in the long run. Or, there may be very limited runs of these NASH products simply to help create a buzz. Or, it all just may be noise to create interest and support around the NASH endeavor and the Lew Dickey regime.
“Dickey is into branding just like on cows. And he is stamping the ‘Nash’ emblem on everything country,” says nationally recognized radio and media insider Jerry Del Colliano, who published a critical piece on Cumulus, Lew Dickey, and the company’s NASH plans on May 19th called “Tough Shareholder Questions for Lew Dickey“. “He may start selling products, or it may be bullshit. With Dickey, you never know.”
According to Del Colliano, NASH Icons is simply an excuse to consolidate more country radio stations under syndicated programming. Though on the surface it may somewhat solve the issue of “classic” country artists getting pushed out of the country radio format prematurely, it will exacerbate the issue raised by radio research company Edison Research at the Country Radio Seminar in February, that the lack of local focus and syndication by Cumulus and Clear Channel in country radio is killing the format.
“Where Cumulus now has a successful country station, [Lew Dickey] is forcing the morning talent out and replacing them with a weak nationally syndicated morning show that is not local,” says Jerry Del Colliano. “Dickey should have no problem keeping big investors on board because they don’t understand the radio industry and probably don’t listen to any kind of country music. They hear the sound of money from a shrewd CEO who is selling sizzle, because if ratings or revenue is a yardstick, he is failing.”
“[Cumulus] throws nickels around like manhole covers they aren’t going to spend ANY money on NASH,” continues Del Colliano. “It is one format for 100 plus stations some day. In other words, they pay for one station and fire everyone else. How is that investing in country? It is hurting country by eliminating the local person center connection that is so unique to country music and artists. NASH is pop radio country style. NASH Icons will be traditional country but in a watered down cheap version. Icons is to be blunt just another format that will allow Cumulus to fire lots of local people and install a money saving 2nd national format. It could be Gregorian Chants for all the Dickeys care. This has little to do with country and lots to do with saving money by syndicating cheap national formats.”
As for why Scott Borchetta would deal with Lew Dickey and Cumulus, Jerry Del Colliano concludes, “Dickey is offering the promise of promotion that Borchetta likes, which is why he has similar deals with Clear Channel. Cumulus gets what it wants and Borchetta gets airplay. And what does Dickey want? Artists for on-air promotion, exclusives and free appearances in return.”
The next shoe to fall will be if, and who Scott Borchetta signs to NASH Icons in the next 2 1/2 week period laid out by Lew Dickey of when we could expect an announcement. In the meantime, what the true extent of what NASH, and NASH Icons will be, and if it could mean a new “classic” format for country radio will have to wait to be seen. For Cumulus, the venture may have no choice but to be wildly successful, because in the face of the implosion of their conservative talk business, and the move by many consumers to streaming alternatives to radio, NASH appears to be the centerpiece of the Cumulus plan to pull the company out of its current tailspin.
Jerry Del Colliano will be speaking at the “Talkers Conference in New York on June 20th.
June 10, 2014 @ 10:20 am
Still wish I was clearer on the money flow.
Q: How much will the addition of a NASH Icons station cannibalize listeners from a ‘Mainstream’ country station in that same market?
My SWAG: I would not be surprised to see a situation where an existing ‘Mainstream’ station with a market of, say, (*reaches for ass, extracting numbers*) 100,000 listeners sees a reduction to, say, 75,000 when faced with NASH Icons competition; and subsequently the NASH Icons station starts pulling in upwards of 35,000 as they start drawing in other listeners from Classic Rock, Adult Contemporary, etc.
Conversely, I don’t see ‘Mainstream’ country radio replacing many of those lost listeners. They aren’t offering anything new, and really aren’t eliminating all that much–should they indeed go to an all-mainstream format. They play maybe one ‘classic’ (for them) cut an hour–is that really keeping any hick-hoppers from listening now?
So a net gain in listeners of 10+% is what I predict. With a reduction for the ‘mainstream’ station of 25%.
(Looking back, that 10+% number looks overly optimistic–but that’s what can happen with ass numbers.)
June 10, 2014 @ 4:56 pm
That’s a good question Charlie, and it might be different for NASH Icon stations with a more rigid, nationalized format than it might be for regionally-owned and independent stations that might adopt some sort of hybrid of the “classic” country format. We’re likely still at least half a year away from the implementation of NASH Icons, so many decision might still be getting made. That also means we still may have time to let our voices be heard of what we would like it to become.
June 10, 2014 @ 10:20 am
I’m hoping this tanks. Borchetta losing money would be nice for a change.
I would also hope that Garth, Alan, et al would be told that they no longer need radio and go with direct-to-fan. I saw where Garth recently got his MBA; surely the current textbooks discuss social media.
June 10, 2014 @ 10:36 am
I don’t listen to any radio, but if I did it would be satellite because I don’t like hearing mattress and car dealership commercials.
The Nash branding effort (we will see its logo on everything soon, probably) is an effort to appropriate and monetize Nashville country music and the Lower Broadway schtick (sp?).
If I had satellite radio, I would listen to Willie’s Roadhouse and Margaritaville, but that is pretty much it.
What we are witnessing with the Nash branding of anything its owner can make money on is not going to be pretty.
It will be ubiquitous, like young girls wearing Hurley, Aeropostle, A & F and American Eagle jeans and shirts.
June 10, 2014 @ 12:05 pm
After reading this, I hope this NASH Icons deal doesn’t happen or is a big flop. This Lew Dickey guy seems like a real crook and Borchetta is an evil genius. Why would I want these two to succeed? I don’t see them getting Garth because as you mentioned the iTunes hangup and Garth doesn’t need NASH Icons. He released that giant box set late last year and has sold almost a million of them exclusively through Walmart and Sam’s Club. If they don’t get Garth, there’s no way in hell NASH Icons can succeed.
June 10, 2014 @ 12:59 pm
My local NASH station actually has a more diverse playlist than almost every other area station, including the independently owned ones – but only between the hours of 10 am and 7 pm, when it’s live and locally programmed. They bookend that with nationally syndicated shows playing the exact same laundry list stuff as everyone else.
I don’t think they have any idea what they want their identity to be, and in a saturated country radio market such as the one I live in, that’s trouble.
June 10, 2014 @ 1:01 pm
The Cumulus station in San Francisco, KGO was all News Talk, dominant number one for just about 30 years until Cumulus came in and gutted it, cleaned house and turned it into all news except for one talk show host during the week in the AM and then weekend talk. DUH…ratings nose dived and now they’re trying to save it by bringing back talk. The one country station on FM in the bay area had was tossed for classic rock…..the rumor is it will most likely change back to “new (crappy) country” again. Time will tell…but Lew Dickey can sure ruin a radio station in the blink of an eye.
September 16, 2014 @ 1:16 pm
Two thoughts:
1) This is a great way to kill the remnants of local radio. The Dickeys care not for the audience. Not even a little.
2) NASH feels like a great branding opportunity for a digital audience.
This is where radio people are so completely inept – they think they are part of the “radio” industry.
This is exactly what TV people used to say when the disruptors showed up ( YouTube, etc). “We’re a television company, not an Internet enterprise.” they said.
Why couldn’t NASH be a lifestyle brand, with IP delivery of video content, reality shows, merch and “America’s Morning Show” a “Today” knockoff for the countryfied crowd?
Radio seems like the last place NASH should be.
But alleged radio people are running it, so I anticipate a spectacular fail is on the horizon.
June 10, 2014 @ 1:03 pm
May corporate radio burn in hell for eternity, they have done nothing for country music but make it worse. Long live the few independent stations making it. Guys like Dickey and ” the country music anti Christ” disgust me. I pray it fails and fails miserably and fully beleive it will. Over A billion dollars in debt, seriously ! Damn good job boys, please keep it up 🙂
June 10, 2014 @ 2:03 pm
“NASH is pop radio country style. NASH Icons will be traditional country but in a watered down cheap version. Icons is ”” to be blunt ”” just another format that will allow Cumulus to fire lots of local people and install a money saving 2nd national format. It could be Gregorian Chants for all the Dickeys care. This has little to do with country and lots to do with saving money by syndicating cheap national formats.”
Mr. Del Colliano statements and are sharply on point, and not at all surprising. Yes, the current popular format might as well be Gregorian chants…. or field recordings of mating hippopotamuses. I think radio consolidation is the biggest impetus that lead to the bad corporate music environment we inhabit. This process continues unbridled, and it looks like NASH Icons will be a continuation of this trend.
“This has little to do with country and lots to do with … money”
This should be the official slogan of the NASH branding campaign.
June 10, 2014 @ 2:05 pm
*Mr. Del Colliano’s statements are sharply on point…
June 10, 2014 @ 6:50 pm
I believe that there IS a positive element at play in any of the NASH scenarios . Traditional -sounding country music with its traditional themes and instrumentation ( which I , personally , believe is a HUGE part of the music ..instruments you rarely hear TOGETHER in any other genre with the exception of Bluegrass ) will at least stand a greater chance of gaining exposure and educating a younger audience …some of which may only be remotely familiar with the sound and themes . This HAS to be a good thing . Not to mention all of those amazingly crafted songs with melody and heart a lot of us had the opportunity to experience AND a chance for the great tunes on a shelf in some publishers office that ‘don’t fit the bill ” for mainstream to get cut and get exposure for some great writers. We’re talking about CHOICE and the opportunity , for many , to experience the real stuff …the roots and the new . Even if NASH fails miserably, for whatever reasons ,after a year or two , at least people who’d be otherwise totally unaware will have had the chance to taste the good stuff on a regular basis for a time . They will have a choice in what fills their space for several hours a day . I’m really hoping this is a success .
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July 16, 2014 @ 7:52 am
I hope not only the NASH format fails,but all the other stations will get rid of these consultants that won’t allow the radio stations to play the new songs by our legends.
While NASH is partly a factor in the mess in Country radio,it’s not just NASH by a long shot.The majority of the fault is with the radio stations in the US & Canada not playing the new songs by the legends when we call in to request them.The stations will use what ever excuse they can think of to get off the hook with us the fans who called or wrote to request those artist songs.
That’s why I only listen to the stations that DO play the songs I request,not the ones that don’t.