Chase Rice Concert Criticism Misses The Bigger Picture

If anyone in country music has ever deserved to have their career unceremoniously wiped and cancelled, inadvertently or otherwise, it might be Chase Rice. It’s an embarrassment he is even associated in any way with country music, or entertainment in general.
From commanding, “Get your little fine ass on the step, shimmy up on inside” in his song “Ready, Set, Roll,” to asking, “What if I shut ya up with my lips on your lips” in the creepy song “Whisper,” this Survivor contestant turned 3rd tier pop country performer has been composing the soundtrack to date rape since he showed up on the scene.
Nonetheless, the criticism of his recent concert that has made him public enemy #1 deserves some context, and a deeper discussion.
On Saturday, June 27th, Chase Rice performed on the opening date of his current tour at the Historic Brushy Mountain State Penitentiary near Knoxville, TN—an outdoor venue on the grounds of the historic prison where they regularly hold a summer concert series. After posting a video snippet to his Instagram feed showing what appeared to be a packed concert full of fans (see below), a backlash ensued, with the video and Chase Rice’s name going viral. During an era when every day it seems someone must become persona non grata as a social media mob descends upon them, over the past couple of days, that person has been Chase Rice.
Make no mistake about it, and mincing no words, what Chase Rice did by allowing fans to congregate near the stage was unconscionable, irresponsible, and patently unfair to his fellow performers who have been following protocols in hope for falling COVID-19 numbers so they can resume touring as well. He deserves to be called out publicly.
However, there’s also no reason to lie or deceive about what happened, and it was irresponsible to report on the issue until we had the full picture. The Chase Rice video and story did not go viral solely because it depicts a few hundred fans crowding around the stage, most of whom were not wearing masks. It went viral because of what enraged Twitter assumed was a full, normal music concert taking place, flaunting COVID-19 protocols.
On Sunday (6-28), pop country star Kelsea Ballerini tweeted out the video with the caption, “Imagine being selfish enough to put thousands of people’s health at risk, not to mention the potential ripple effect, and play a NORMAL country concert right now. Chase Rice, we all want (and need) to tour. We just care about our fans and their families enough to wait.” This tweet is what caused the video, and Chase Rice, to go viral.
However, what Kelsea Ballerini said is not true. The Chase Rice concert at Brushy Mountain was not a “normal” concert, and there were not “thousands” of people in attendance. According to Brushy Mountain State Penitentiary Group Vice President Brian May,
“All local requirements were abided by for the recent concert, and numerous precautions were taken. We drastically reduced our maximum venue capacity of 10,000 to 4,000 maximum capacity (lower than the state’s advisement of 50 percent) with less than 1,000 in attendance Saturday night providing ample space in the outdoor lawn area for fans to spread out to their own comfort level. All guests were given temperature checks prior to entering the venue and free hand sanitizer was provided to everyone at entry. All vendors and staff were advised to wear masks and gloves when interacting with guests, and bandanas were available for purchase on-site.”
But that hasn’t stopped the perception of what people thought they saw getting in the way of what actually happened. In the video, you only see a close crop of what looks like a few hundred people right near the stage. Again, this in itself is very alarming, and irresponsible. However the perception is that where the lights and the view end, there are thousands of more people extending well beyond what you see, all packed tightly in, all not wearing masks, like you would see at a “normal” concert, to use Kelsea Ballerini’s words. This misnomer is why the video so went viral.
How many people did the average viewer of the viral video perceive to be at the concert? Apparently the consensus is somewhere just above 4,000—or more than three times the amount of people who were actually there. In fact The Daily Mail feels so confident in that number (and says the video verifies it), they made it the headline of their article on the incident, and added for good measure that fans were “packed tightly inside the venue,” even though it was an outdoor area.

Wonderwall also reported the 4,000 number, and put it in their title, as did multiple others. The Huffington Post said in their headline said the Chase Rice concert was an “enormous crowd.” CNN called it “packed.” Even United States Representative Tony Cardenas from California tweeted out, “This was incredibly selfish. Tennessee is experiencing a spike in #COVID cases and he decides to play a concert with 4000+ people.” He apparently got the notion from The Washington Post.


So not just the general population, but multiple members of the media, and even an elected representative, landed on 4,000 as the amount of people in attendance at the Chase Rice show.
But what was the actual number of attendees at the concert? According to the Brushy Mountain State Penitentiary Group, there were 954 tickets sold to the concert, with 809 tickets scanned. That means there were 809 people total to spread out and socially distance among the 3+ acre crowd area—significantly less than the 5,000 people the venue had been cleared for, and the 10,000 capacity under normal circumstances—not exactly an “enormous” crowd, in the “thousands”—and nowhere near the 4,000 alleged. The crowd at Brushy Mountain for the Chase Rice concert constituted 8% of the venue’s capacity.
Now granted, none of this takes Chase Rice or the attendees off the hook. It was still an irresponsible move for fans to disregard instructions and crowd in front of the stage, for Chase Rice to not instruct them to move back and give each other space, and for the venue to not do more to intervene in the matter. You may say, “4,000, 10,000, or 800, it’s still a big problem.” And this is true.
However, by falsifying or embellishing the actual number of people in attendance, the media is feeding conspiracy theorists and Coronavirus apologists fresh meat, and validating their accusations that people are lying to them. Because in this case, they are. There were not 4,000 people at the Chase Rice show, and the crowd was not “enormous.” And by seizing upon hyperbolic anger fed by social media frenzy sharing incorrect facts and a misleading video, they’re feeding right into the crowd that calls COVID-19 a hoax.
Due to the incident, Brushy Mountain is reevaluating how to approach their summer concert series.
“We were unable to further enforce the physical distancing recommended in the signage posted across the property and are looking into future alternative scenarios that further protect the attendees, artists and their crews and our employees,” says VP Brian May. “We are reevaluating the series from the top to bottom—from implementing further safety measures, to adding stanchions, to converting the space to drive-in style concerts, to postponing shows.”
Chase Rice also responded to the backlash in an Instagram video posted Monday (6-29) afternoon. “The biggest thing for all of us is the safer we are now, the quicker we get to actual normal live shows, which I know we all want,” Rice said, who has a drive-in show coming up next weekend. “Thank you guys for understanding, please go by the rules, please go by the laws on this Friday show coming up and shows moving forward.”
But the bigger concern, and the deeper discussion being missed in this whole Chase Rice episode is how the music industry is going to move forward in the continued COVID-19 environment. The entire live music industry is on the brink of collapse, and performers in much more difficult positions than Chase Rice are facing extinction if something isn’t done. In Texas, and parts of California and Arizona, they have just re-instituted the closure of bars, which includes music venues. Studies have the number of local venues that may go under at 90%, while there seems to be no collective will by government leaders for additional stimulus, let alone targeted relief for the live music industry specifically which was the first to close, and will be the last to reopen.
What Chase Rice did severely sets back efforts to reopen the industry not just by potentially helping to spread the disease to even more people, but also by souring public perception about the ability of music fans to enjoy the medium responsibly as we try to manage reopening. Embellishing the numbers and the ensuing social media frenzy didn’t help.
Opening up at limited capacities and in accordance with local health officials like Brushy Mountain attempted to do might be the only way to save certain venues, and the careers of the artists who may perform there. And despite the characterization of some, this isn’t choosing money over lives. The mask issue continues to be contentious with some as well, even though mask wearing may be the only way for your favorite venues to open back up, and your favorite artists to resume their livelihoods.
Though the Chase Rice concert is being couched as one of the first “normal” concerts back, venues big and small have already been inviting performers and attendees back under safe protocols that have been adhered to by everyone involved. The crowding in front of the stage at the Chase Rice show was an outlier, and may have never been known about if video hadn’t been posted to Instagram. Chris Janson played to an estimated 2,800 people in Idaho, and received some criticism, but not nearly as much as Chase Rice did since it wasn’t accompanied by as dramatic of a video. And though it’s fair to criticize and be alarmed over these incidents, they should not injure certain venues or performers from returning to limited capacities if it’s cleared by local health officials and safe for everyone, and people follow the guidelines, like is already happening in multiple locations.
The public shaming that ensues when artists or venues open up—even when they return safely and under strict guidelines mandated by local authorities—is something that needs to be discussed objectively by the music industry and the media. Viral videos, misleading photos, and public shaming could be just as problematic to returning as the virus itself. The unnecessary politicization of COVID-19 has made it a binary issue for many. Either you stay home and shame everyone else who doesn’t as murderers, or you think it’s all a big hoax. But like everything else, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
This is not to advocate for the business of live music returning to normal at the moment, or even at a limited capacity in areas still struggling with rising COVID-19 numbers. But as an industry, the discussion needs to be had of how to return safely and sustainably free of emotional triggers, and based on factual information. Because as we saw with the Chase Rice situation, people tend to see what they want, as opposed to what is actually there.
June 29, 2020 @ 6:50 pm
Trouble is that the “fans” are the ones who will ruin it for all. While I love being closer to the stage, with a good sound system it doesn’t really matter how close you are. Bring a pair of binoculars if you need to! I’ll do anything I can to keep our businesses open, and get our musicians back out there doing live shows. If that means wearing a mask throughout the concert, if that means putting my chair in a little circle and staying there, I’ll do it. Those who won’t are just being selfish and will be the reason why more musicians will find themselves in dire straits.
June 29, 2020 @ 11:50 pm
I disagree. I will not even go to a show if I know I have no chance of getting close except for a few exceptions like The Stones. Now if I’m at a festival and it’s an act I’m not that into then fine but I need to be close to who I’m going to see. And I also have no desire to go see music if I have to wear a mask. But hey, to each their own. Now calling people “selfish” is just plain wrong and makes no sense at all. I’m selfish because I will not pay to go to a show? We are still in the middle of a pandemic!
June 30, 2020 @ 7:01 am
Not selfish for not paying to go to a show. If you want to wait until you’re able to get safely close to the stage again, that’s fine. But those who pay to go to a show, know that there are guidelines in place to keep everyone safe but decide it’s more important for them to crowd up against the stage than to follow the guidelines, THOSE people are the problem and THOSE people are the selfish ones. It’s not fair to the people who go to the shows and do what they’re expected to do, even if that means being further back in the field, it’s not fair to the artists playing that particular concert, and it’s not fair to the other musicians out there who are trying to book venues that decide to hold off because they’ve seen that people won’t listen. The selfish people may have gotten an hour or two of up-close music, but there’s a whole ripple effect that follows because of their it’s all about me attitude.
June 29, 2020 @ 6:51 pm
Chase Rice is a true outlaw and I’m proud to have him representing country music. Ballerini and maren morris should stick to pop music/pop collabs, and SHUT UP. It’s just more liberal media trash. The only reason protestors/rioters had masks on was to hide their identity from cams, a real convenient robbery disguise, media didn’t care about those mass gatherings of course. GO CHASE RICE GO CHRIS JANSON!!
June 29, 2020 @ 7:56 pm
I dont know who he is but fucking a right man!! Nobody went to the concert that didn’t want to be there!! If people don’t like it then stay home cause I’m sure as hell not and im not wearing a fucking mask ever!! Right on Chase Rice
June 29, 2020 @ 9:41 pm
douche. To most thinking people you sound so incredibly dumb. You will never realize or acknowledge this I concede.
June 29, 2020 @ 11:53 pm
As long as they do not go near anyone after fine but not wearing masks and not distancing is the reason we are where we are today. You both sound like total fools.
June 30, 2020 @ 2:22 am
You do whatever the government tells you without research and im the douche and fool? Grow a spine and a set of nuts sheep! I for one laugh at you for your pathetic cowardness towards a disease that your kids have a better chance of getting hit by lightning than dying from!! You gonna start being afraid of the little old rainy poo too? Maybe some thunder and you have to get into bed with your Mommy?
June 30, 2020 @ 11:31 am
You…don’t seem like a bright fellow.
June 30, 2020 @ 12:00 pm
You’re trying to hurt his feelings which takes away from your argument.
I’d love to see some peer reviewed research though on why masks aren’t a good idea. Masks aren’t just for your safety (whether you agree or not) but for the safety of those around you. You are making a selfish decision by not wearing one. I think a true patriot sacrifices for his or her country and the amount of people unwilling to make such a small sacrifice (wearing a mask) is saddening. Other countries have got this under control and honestly made America look pretty childish.
July 1, 2020 @ 12:24 pm
I suspect those who are responding to Shane don’t realize that he has a PhD in epidemiology and virology.
June 29, 2020 @ 6:54 pm
What Chase Rise & his audience did is highly reckless & irresponsible, no matter the amount of crowd. Even with body temperature check & sanitised hands, with no mask & crowding like that, the probability of catching the virus is at 90%. You may or may not already have the virus, despite the normal body temp and all. The biggest example is the mess over at Adria Tour of tennis: the players were tested multiple times, they are perfectly healthy, the first two tests came out negative. But by 3rd test, it came back positive. This virus is unpredictable, putting it simple. What is on the news, is true. None of it is being exaggerated. The government of my country played it down initially, and now we ended up with 10% mortality rate, compared to neighbouring countries like Vietnam and Taiwan and their less than 1% mortality rate, coincidentally, those two countries are the ones who have taken extreme measures early on when Wuhan reported the first 100.
Another example is a friend of mine whose family have been staying home for weeks, and the father only went out to get necessities on the convenience store. Extra precautions too: sanitized hands, mask, and rubber gloves. Yet he still caught the virus, and ended up with the whole family infected. Now the father’s is in ICU. If even people with extra precautions still caught it, what more those reckless bunch? Being reckless like Chase Rice & his audience is simply selfish & inconsiderate towards other people & medical workers.
As for how music industry moving forward with live shows essentially is out of question if you want this pandemic to end in the next two years: One may want to have a look over at Asia music industry. There’s definitely a lot of notes to take and try to apply to US/Country music industry.
June 30, 2020 @ 4:14 am
Trig, it’d be interesting to know the IP address of this comment.
June 30, 2020 @ 7:41 am
Don’t have to find out the IP. I’ll tell you right away: South East Asia, mayhaps you never heard of it? To be fair, Asia is big and have multiple parts. The country is the one that underestimated C19 early on, resulting in the people underestimating this pandemic as well – that’s how we end up with 56k+ cases, and 2.6k+ death as of today. Google should be helpful.
And actually, I’ve been visiting this site since 2009. Never commented. Just that this Chase Rice & audience’s reckless, borderline selfish & stupid – treating C19 as if it’s a way with person (what’s with the whole laughable anti-C19 song and this live show). Someone tell them that C19 don’t care with all those attitudes. You be reckless, you catch it. If you survive, good. If you die, than congrats! You’re a new number in stats and lost to Darwinism.
Re: Asia music & entertainment industry in general – all of live shows, cinema complexes are still NOT allowed to operate and concerts are cancelled until foreseeable future (2021 is the closest date predicted, if we are lucky). Some countries are still in lock down, even (Singapore is still on Phase 1 about to enter Phase 2 of reopening // google this one). But lovely, instead of endless whining, accompanied with brass yet trite attitudes like Chase Rice, acts & companies around this continent are working around this; multiple 24/7 paid live streams, performance VODs, paid fan talks & meetings. Not just through video streaming platforms like YouTube, multiple platforms hosting those lives (e.g: Naver (news & media portal), LINE (chatting platfom), Shopee (online marketplace)). And there are also limited edition merch and all — Essentially, we have shown that there are ways to do live shows, meet fans, do performances, make money, without being reckless during a pandemic. There is definitely notes to be taken on the way Asians are adapting to the New Normal.
June 30, 2020 @ 11:40 am
“The New Normal” aka the PC phrase to justify tyranny.
June 30, 2020 @ 9:26 am
No reason to believe XH, GAO isn’t who they say they are.
June 29, 2020 @ 6:56 pm
You’re lucky anyone even comes to this trash site, go ahead and censor/delete my comments you libtard in disguise. Site dies by the month you hack
June 29, 2020 @ 8:10 pm
I can’t stand Chase Rice’s music but the Liberal Media and Artists calling out Chase while pretending riots don’t exist is exactly what I would expect.
June 29, 2020 @ 9:49 pm
Riots are the new talking points. Two wrongs don’t make right.
June 30, 2020 @ 6:33 am
So all they needed to do is have a riot before,after or even during the concert and this becomes ok? If rioting is condoned without out wearing masks then why should anyone care at all about wearing one anywhere? Actually rioting being condoned with or without a mask is more of a problem than this concert will ever present.
June 30, 2020 @ 7:05 pm
Perhaps you don’t understand the meaning of the phrase “two wrongs don’t make a right”?
June 29, 2020 @ 7:02 pm
“However, what Kelsea Ballerini said is not true. The Chase Rice concert at Brushy Mountain was not a “normal” concert, and there were not “thousands” of people in attendance. According to Brushy Mountain State Penitentiary Group Vice President Brian May,
However, what Kelsea Ballerini said is not true. The Chase Rice concert at Brushy Mountain was not a “normal” concert.”
What she said is still true because we don’t know what these people are doing? If someone contracts COVID-19 at the concert and then goes to a grocery store that one person could be putting dozens of folks in danger. Times that by however many were in the crowd and it could be thousands. That’s how viruses work.
June 29, 2020 @ 7:23 pm
What Kelsea Ballerini said was this,
“Imagine being selfish enough to put thousands of people’s health at risk, not to mention the potential ripple effect.”
The “potential ripple effect” would be the people who went to the concert and then went to the grocery store. The “thousands of people” would be the original 4,000 people that were assumed to be at the concert from the video, and from what Brushy Mountain had said about their capacity for the socially distanced shows. At the time of the tweet, Brushy Mountain had not yet addressed the situation, or verified the amount of people who had attended the show.
June 30, 2020 @ 1:24 pm
Trig, Mickey Guyton tweeted something interesting about Chase Rice the other day… Claims of inappropriate behavior from years ago towards women.
https://mobile.twitter.com/MickeyGuyton/status/1277577467058720769
June 29, 2020 @ 7:32 pm
If all reports had been 100% accurate, the response should be the same. That’s a lot of people crowded in place, shouting, and maskless. Stupid.
June 29, 2020 @ 7:36 pm
I agree for the most part. But I don’t think the response would have been as severe if the reports had been accurate, while it feeds ammunition to those they say they’re being lied to by the media.
June 29, 2020 @ 7:43 pm
IMHO Chase Rice is in a long line of mainstream Country artists ruining the genre, and yes perhaps its irresponsible to have fans congregate the way they did. Having said that, no one forced these people to go. These people decide that the personal health risk was worth it to go to this concert. At the end of the day the choices of each fan is their own. Where individual freedom ends and social responsibility begins, seems like we are all trying to decipher as a nation. Hopefully they all quarantine for 14 days. I sure wouldn’t have risked it to see a Chase Rice show.
June 29, 2020 @ 7:43 pm
Just asking this question honestly for the sake of discussion: is it Chase’s “fault” how people followed (or in this case, didn’t follow) social distancing guidelines? He may have encouraged people early on to stay back, but then as the concert went on saw no one was doing so and just went with it. I have no idea, I’m just thinking out loud. Was it his job to stop playing and instruct them to go back to correct spacing?
I’m not a fan of his at all, but I’m also not a fan of cancel culture with poor information or thought. Shouldn’t the venue bear the brunt of the blame for failing to keep people away from the stage?
Just thoughts, give me yours.
June 29, 2020 @ 9:14 pm
I doubt he would have posted the video if he saw any problem with what was going on. He certainly had the ability to stop the concert if he wanted too, and so could the venue. I call BS on their excuse that they couldn’t control the apparently way under capacity crowd. Just turn the music off if you have to.
Bottom line, nobody involved gave a crap, and some of them will probably get sick because of it, and spread it to others who had nothing to do with this.
June 29, 2020 @ 9:40 pm
Somebody should have taken control of the situation. If Chase wasn’t willing to, someone at the venue had to step up, and tell Chase to address the crowd and get them to move back. The venue had signs up and were telling people to social distance. Chase Rice saw so little problem with it, he posted it on social media. You can’t let the individual members of the crowd off the hook either. I think it’s an important moment for both performers, venues, and fans to learn some lessons about what needs to happen if music is going to move forward in this environment. But instead of having this discussion, it became all about shaming Chase Rice. He earned whatever he’s got coming to him. But why don’t we discuss what happened, and try to be better.
June 30, 2020 @ 4:11 am
Yep. Microphone in hand means you are also responsible for the safety of the crowd, to the best of your ability. If you see there’s a fight in the crowd, you stop the show. If you see a fire in the venue you stop the show. If you see people singing and yelling close enough to each other to spread a deadly virus during a pandemic…you stop the show.
June 29, 2020 @ 7:44 pm
I’m sorry I thought this was America. Chase Rice and his fans are likely giant tools but they can do whatever they want. Fuck this corona lockdown fest Oh you can’t go to a chase rice concert but if you want to tear down a statue by all means have fun!!!
June 29, 2020 @ 8:04 pm
Wrong you ignorant tool. People can’t do “whatever they want”. Being American doesnt mean you can do whatever you want. There have always been rules, laws and regulations to protect the greater public and keep health and order. What a stupid comment.
June 29, 2020 @ 9:34 pm
Correct that there have always been rules.
Wrong that “being American” doesn’t have connotations of “doing whatever you want.” Our country has always placed value on individual liberties.
It’s just tough to strike the right balance between the two; like Trigger says the truth is usually in the middle. Both of your comments are kind of black/white thinking. At least consider the other side’s viewpoint?
June 29, 2020 @ 9:46 pm
I did consider it and found it ignorant. Believe me, I struggle to always see both sides of the coin but the politicization of a health crisis has discouraged me beyond belief.
June 30, 2020 @ 12:05 am
“ Wrong that “being American” doesn’t have connotations of “doing whatever you want.” Our country has always placed value on individual liberties.”
The world’s largest prison population wants a word with you.
June 30, 2020 @ 1:33 pm
“Our country has always placed value on individual liberties.”
The non-white, non-male, and/or non-straight crowd may have a different take.
June 30, 2020 @ 10:48 am
Easy with the insults. Don’t take this shit so seriously. Personally I wouldn’t go to a chase rice or anyone’s concert right now due to the virus. But I’m also not going to tell other people they can’t. I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy in society today where it’s okay to protest or shop at Walmart but god forbid you go to a concert or shop at a small business.
June 30, 2020 @ 9:42 am
Truth is, there are body bags for everyone who is denying science & medical experts.You will find a deadly virus doesn’t care to argue about “freedom”.
June 30, 2020 @ 9:44 pm
Truth is, there are scientists outside the government echo chamber people like you listen to, who have a completely different take. Turn off your tv and do a little research. They held Woodstock in the middle of the ’68 pandemic for fucksakes. People need to get out and build up their immunity before the second wave hits.
July 1, 2020 @ 8:19 am
Actually, Woodstock was held in August of 1968. The first documented case of the H3N2 flu was of a US Marine, who had just returned from Vietnam, in early September of 1968. The first localized outbreak in the US did not occur until later that fall.
July 1, 2020 @ 9:02 am
August 1969.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/woodstock-occur-during-pandemic/
June 29, 2020 @ 7:52 pm
The media’s constant rush before the complete picture is known to further their agenda has degenerated the media profession to one step above prostitution. And they may even succumb to that one. Of all the things going on today, the most embarrassing thing in America is the media, at least most of it.
Of course Kelsea Ballerini immediately jumps to this irresponsible reporting. Golly Gee. What, like, would you like, expect like. Sheesh!
June 29, 2020 @ 8:06 pm
For all I care people like him are the reason John Prine is dead.
June 29, 2020 @ 8:27 pm
This is well written, and is as much as I can stand even talking about this any more, because Trigger you’re one of the few people discussing this with any perspective and maturity. COVID is serious but the media has sunk to new lows, the herd mentality on both sides is mind numbing, and people like Chelsea with their sanctimonious, hypocritical shaming can fuck right off.
June 29, 2020 @ 8:29 pm
Trumpers sure love to blame the media for their ills. Media, protestors but turns out protesting didn’t lead to an increase in numbers . Current hot spots in the South are in areas where there were hardly any protests but sure let s blame them instead of acting like good decent human beings who put the lives of the vulnerable over the discomfort of a sweaty upper lip from wearing a mask.
Chase Rice doesn’t give a shit about his fans he was desperate for some cash. Those fans don’t give a shit about anybody in their community or their family members they place at risk. It’s all about muh freedoms. When they suffer long term lung disease or when they need dialysis or stroke after care maybe then they will start caring but I doubt it.
June 29, 2020 @ 9:35 pm
Wear a Mask, I’m having a hard time following your logic. It seems you’re saying the mass gatherings at protests are fine—there’s no evidence that they have contributed to spikes, after all—but the attendees at the Chase concert were selfish because it was a mass gathering. As of yet there’s no evidence that the Chase concert has led to a spike, either.
I think the Trumpers you’re referring to are simply pointing out there’s a blatant double standard obvious in the media right now. That double standard ought to give pause to every American—right or left.
June 29, 2020 @ 9:51 pm
If you looked at protests a large amount of people were actually wearing masks and distancing. If you look at the pictures and videos from a his show, people were shoulder to shoulder and not a mask in sight. The protests were far better organized than a for profit concert.
Nothing is preventing us from chastising the protestors who didn’t wear masks. They were wrong not too but this tit for tat game if he didn’t wear a mask so I don’t have to either is pure clownery and why we have lost control of the situation and none of that is the media’s fault.
June 30, 2020 @ 5:39 am
One of the point of the article was say that the number of people at this event is being falsely reported. The media is dirty for making it seem like there was thousands more there then there actually was, because the outrage it causes may hamper other artist from being able to even attempt this in the future.
I don’t see any mention of protestors, or talk of mask as though they were something to be shunned from this article.
“Now granted, none of this takes Chase Rice or the attendees off the hook. It was still an irresponsible move for fans to disregard instructions”
June 30, 2020 @ 11:39 am
Yup. Massachusetts had testing sites specifically for protesters…and the positive test rate was right in line with the rest of the state population (~2%).
If you want concerts and sports back, wear a fucking mask. It works.
June 30, 2020 @ 9:48 pm
Where are all these protests you speak of? All I’ve seen are domestic terrorists rioting, looting and burning shit (and in some cases, murdering innocent people). I’m sure all of them are immune to the virus, and aren’t spreading it at all. Lol.
June 29, 2020 @ 8:42 pm
While we are on the topic of live shows for the rest of the year, as awesome as the line up for firewater music festival looks. Without knowing logistics, I still can’t imagine how they are going to pull off a music festival with all of the camping, and crowd they are hoping to draw. At the same time be able to claim to keep potential virus spread at bay. Thoughts?
June 29, 2020 @ 9:45 pm
I think this Chase Rice fiasco specifically endangers events like the Firewater Fest. This story went so viral that all kinds of outlets were covering it, and politicians were weighing in. It will eat into the will to allow any gatherings around music, even if proper protocols are taken. Though Kelsea Ballerini was presumptuous in her comments, she was right that Chase set all of music back with this concert.
June 29, 2020 @ 8:48 pm
“Studies have the number of local venues that may go under at 90%, while there seems to be no collective will by government leaders for additional stimulus, let alone targeted relief for the live music industry specifically which was the first to close, and will be the last to reopen.”
The live music business (Bars, independent venues, and larger) as well as others like mine the hospitality hotel/meeting/convention industry employs about a quarter of a million people in the U.S. most of which haven’t worked since St. Patricks day. I’m not just talking about Barbers and Bartenders here I’m talking about the thousands of professionals it takes to put on any kind of show. Everyone is hurting and if there’s no extension of some benefits it’s not going to be pretty. We’ve had a few places say they can’t reopen. These are some of the ones our favorite artists on this site play when they come here.
As I said in another thread, here in the Chicago and suburbs we are in Phase 4 which means depending on the individual rules of each area some bars can have bands inside or outside as long as the crowd is kept under a certain limit percentage wise etc…as well as distancing and masks. Friday night I was in a restaurant bar with a cover band and about 40 people and Saturday I was in a normal bar (capacity 250) with maybe 50 people. Some other places in the area were having parking lot shows. Our 10 casinos open July 1. These are the rules set by the governor. Like everything else in the world, everything and anything is subject to change on a daily basis. Just like my life, I take it one day at a time and try and maintain sanity.
June 29, 2020 @ 9:11 pm
The more people fuck up before the U.S. flattens the curve the longer it will be before we can have regular concerts. If you’ve seen any of the graphs of America vs. other countries you know how badly we are screwing up. States are re-closing bars and public spaces they opened just a few weeks ago because the spike is so bad.
Don’t give a shit about Chase Rice but I was a big fan of Chris Janson’s duet with Offset so, really disappointed in him.
June 30, 2020 @ 3:50 am
News flash we already flattened the curve. That’s why states started opening back up. The shutdown wasnt ever meant to totally eliminate the disease but spread spread out the infection rate to give health care facilities time to prepare. Anyone with hald a brain should have realized that the infection rate would go back up once states opened back up. At the same time the mortality rate is still dropping.
June 30, 2020 @ 7:39 am
Dude. The only way we flattened the curve is our current peak is as high as the previous top peak. Please Google our infection rate vs. that of other countries. It’s really frightening.
June 29, 2020 @ 9:28 pm
Americans are too independent to ever submit completely to lockdowns and masks. Libertarian principles are what this country was founded on, and they persist to this day. It’s just not culturally possible for us to maintain the same level of lockdown that China can, for instance. Personally, I’d rather not wear a mask and take my chances, even on infecting my family, and I’m sure not going to stay home indefinitely. Is this harmful to “the greater good?” Probably. But millions of Americans have this mindset. I reckon even if Ebola was on the loose, some people would still be going out and shaking hands every day.
June 29, 2020 @ 9:41 pm
It’s not independence. It’s 100% pure selfishness. You choosing to infect people in your community and even your own family like it’s no big thing doesn’t make you an outlaw, it makes you a terrible human being.
June 29, 2020 @ 10:09 pm
That is so shortsighted. 100s of millions of people were added to the world starvation count due to the lockdowns themselves. Mostly people in Africa and the Middle East. Who is talking about them? You’re certainly not. You’re just posturing on a country music website. Your willingness to ignore any sort of perspective beyond your knee jerk talking points while finger pointing makes you an unwitting asshole.
June 30, 2020 @ 7:50 am
How many Africans or Middle Easterners are walking around the US spreading Covid? You people don’t even care about preventing the disease spreading in your own home town so don’t try and act like you care about anybody else in the rest of the world.
June 30, 2020 @ 9:06 am
Tell me, Wear a Damn Mask …
What are your thoughts on Disney, Orlando, & Disneyland in California, opening in 11 days?
That’s right, Disney scheduled to open its gates on July 11th.
That is eleven days from now.
Really would like your thoughts on this.
June 29, 2020 @ 10:32 pm
It is independence by any definition of the word, although you can certainly argue that translates to selfishness during a pandemic. But my greater point is that culturally we (collectively) are very unlikely to set this view aside for a societal responsibility. Many Americans have “individual first” mindsets rather than “community first” mindsets and nothing is going to change that, including insulting people online 😉
June 30, 2020 @ 6:37 am
Independence is you trying to sugar coat selfishness. Selfishness isn’t a virtue and people who have absolute zero regard for anybody but themselves don’t deserve anything but insults.
June 30, 2020 @ 6:44 am
Someone is triggered.
June 30, 2020 @ 7:34 am
I will gladly admit that stupidity and selfish disregard for the safety of vulnerable people in our community triggers me.
June 30, 2020 @ 10:36 am
So the BLM protestors burning down stores and beating and murdering people isn’t stupidity or a disregard for safert of vulnerable people?
June 30, 2020 @ 9:33 am
You people simply don’t understand or care that when you live in a society,you need to abide by society’s rules to succeed.
June 30, 2020 @ 10:35 am
Do you self quarantine, wear a mask, and stay away from others during a regular flu season? No? It’s more deadly.
June 29, 2020 @ 9:55 pm
Well said.
Libertarian principles persist—for now.
But the assault on those principles is gaining momentum. It seems primarily from the left for now. I never thought I’d see the day when any free thinking people would stand by silently while protesters used communist symbology, and Marxist ideology. We watched the media react with understandable disgust when Charlottesville Nazis waved their swastikas, but the response to hard left ideologues has been silence. Totalitarianism is totalitarianism—whether originating from the right or left, after all.
June 29, 2020 @ 10:06 pm
A lot of right wing buzzwords just to say you don’t give a shit about anybody but yourself.
June 30, 2020 @ 6:42 am
Elk Tracker was 100% right.
Marxist ideology is gaining massive ground. A co-founder of BLM is a trained Marxist.
Wake up.
June 30, 2020 @ 7:37 am
Marxist the Trumper go to word for I won’t do shit for my fellow man cuz I ain’t s no dirty commie.
June 30, 2020 @ 10:40 am
Yep people are so dumb and blinded that they are not willing to see the truth. And it’s not folks like me and you
June 30, 2020 @ 6:52 am
The article is pointing out dishonesty in the media, as well as its hypocrisy. I happen to agree with the point, because I believe the evidence is obvious. It’s not right wing to notice these things. It’s also not right wing to observe that a substantial number of Americans are disgusted by folks spreading Covid at a concert, but completely willing to excuse people gathering in much larger crowds at a protest. There’s a blaring double standard, and the media is not reporting it. I care deeply about people, and that’s why I’m pointing out the hypocrisy. I don’t see how that’s right wing.
I wear my mask every day out of a sense of civic responsibility. Do I believe it helps? Maybe. I think social distancing is more effective—and I don’t see that happening at concerts OR at protests. The media deserves to be called out on this.
June 30, 2020 @ 7:47 am
The media went by the numbers that were available at the time. This constant need to blame the media is right wing. The right are claiming that we wouldn’t have protest if it weren’t for the media. Police brutality is an issue because it’s being reported by the media. The media is driving a wedge between Americans by reporting on Covid. Having Fox News blaring on your tv all day reading Breitbart and OAN is okay but the media that you don’t agree with is bad because Marxist and anti American and divisive agendas and hypocrisy. Please.
June 30, 2020 @ 9:36 am
“This constant need to blame the media is right wing.”
See, this is a problem. There is nothing “right wing” about pointing out that numerous outlets reported there were 4,000 people at a concert, and that the crowd was “enormous” and “packed in” to the venue, when it truth it was only 8% full. That is a non political issue. Multiple media outlets reported this wrongly. A United States House of Representatives member with a blue checkmark on Twitter reported this wrongly. The idea that it is partisan to point out these errors is wrong-minded. It should be the universal want of everyone for the media to get it right, and the public should hold the media accountable when they don’t.
June 30, 2020 @ 11:51 am
I thoroughly enjoy everyone in this section going into hysterics about The Daily Mail being “the liberal media.”
It’s a rag, and a right-wing one at that.
June 30, 2020 @ 8:45 am
Looks like the thirtysomething moms are out in full force today. Please shut up and go away with your preaching. You’re annoying and you’re not impressing anyone.
July 4, 2020 @ 2:33 pm
Misogynist tool
June 29, 2020 @ 10:55 pm
I don’t like wearing a mask. Who does? But if committing to wearing one helps open up the economy and allows independent music venues, festivals, and artists to move forward as opposed to falter, it is a tiny inconvenience for significant gain. For 13 years I’ve been developing carpal tunnel pecking away at a damn keyboard to support independent music. Music fans spend hundreds, sometimes thousands of dollars a year on music. Yet wearing a mask in public for the next six months until we get a vaccine (hopefully) to help things open up is a bridge too far? If jack-booted thugs were throwing people in the Gulag for not wearing masks, I may take up arms over the issue. But even if I felt like masks were completely pointless (which I don’t), what is the harm in wearing one simply to be neighborly and courteous?
June 30, 2020 @ 7:14 am
Trigger:
1. The odds of having a vaccine available for all in the next six months, or even one year, are practically zero.
2. The only answer those who don’t work for a living or whose paychecks keep on coming have is to shut down the economy. That is patently absurd.
3. It is likely that shutting down the economy flattens the curve, but it is a certainty that shutting down the economy flattens Mr. and Mrs. America.
4. It is likely that opening up the economy causes a rise in the number of cases.
5. So, you can see, according to the fearmongers, the solution is to shut down the economy, open it back up, shut it down again, open it back up again, shut it down again, open it back up again . . .
6. That is absurd. We went through something similar to this in 1968-1969 and didn’t close one single business as a result.
7. The only realistic solution is to open up the economy, get the fearmongers away from the levers of power, and live our lives exactly as we were living them one year – or six months ago, with the exception of guarding the nursing homes and otherwise shielding those with underlying health conditions.
8. No. I don’t wear a mask. I won’t wear a mask. I don’t have a mask. I don’t have the slightest clue where I would go to purchase such a thing, and don’t care to know.
June 30, 2020 @ 8:15 am
what kind of idiot doesn’t have the “slightest clue” where buy a mask. what a stupid thing to be proud of.
June 30, 2020 @ 9:23 am
thegentile:
I don’t waste my time searching or shopping for things I don’t need and will never use; things such as masks, ceiling wax, left-handed monkey wrenches, etc.
You obviously do the same. You don’t own a dictionary or encyclopedias, for instance.
June 30, 2020 @ 11:57 am
So, the logic here is:
thegentile listens to scientists, and is capable of understanding the (very simple, very unambiguous) data about mask-wearing…so he doesn’t own a dictionary or an encyclopedia?
I want concerts, baseball, and football. I like haircuts. I like restaurants.
I want my parents and grandparents to live.
Because of all that, I wear a mask.
The morons who refuse to are why Texas is shutting back down.
June 30, 2020 @ 12:07 pm
that’s one hell of a logical failing to go from i don’t need one to i can’t think critically enough to even deduce where i could purchase a mask especially since most places are selling masks at this time.
June 30, 2020 @ 3:09 pm
Cool Smooth Lester:
I still get regular haircuts, I regularly eat at restaurants, and my favorite two bars are open from noon until midnight every day except Sunday. We didn’t shut down. We’re not going to shut down. The result? Fewer than 1 in 500 people in my county have been diagnosed with Covid-19, and no deaths.
Why is California, which has had STRINGENT mask requirements, in the process of shutting down again? Didn’t think about that one, did you?
June 30, 2020 @ 3:24 pm
let me get this straight tex, you’re saying your county has less cases than the most populated state in the u.s.?! big brain power over here guys. unparalleled mind at work.
July 1, 2020 @ 7:09 am
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CA is in the process of shutting down again because they opened up too early and didn’t have “Stringent mask requirements” until two weeks ago, champ.
Places that did shut down properly, have opened up more slowly, and do have stringent mask requirements, such as NY, NJ, CT, and MA, have continued to see their numbers drop, even as they reopened their economies.
June 30, 2020 @ 9:42 am
The odds of us getting a vaccine in the next year are a little better than 0.
Twist off on me about the government’s response to the Coronavirus all you want. I am not advocating or defending anything when it comes to the shutdowns, and have significant concerns about the impinging on Civil Liberties myself. All I’m saying is that if wearing a stupid mask, even if I disagree with it, is what it takes to tip the collective will to allow the economy to reopen, and specifically to save the careers of music artists and the venues and festivals that support them that are currently sitting on the bring, then I’ll wear a damn mask. Because it’s an extremely small price to pay.
June 30, 2020 @ 10:51 am
Trigger, do you have any inside info on whether or not Mile 0 fest has plans thus far, for 2021?
Know what i see on-line.
Didn’t know if you had any inside intel.
Any excuse to be in the Keys is always good
June 30, 2020 @ 9:56 am
If by “fear mongers “ you mean scientists & immunologist smarter than all of us,you should listen to them.if there was a breakdown in the media,it was Fox News telling the public this was a hoax for three months.people like you,Tex are why there is no hope.
June 30, 2020 @ 10:21 am
Erikstein,
Scientist here. Immunology.
Chief of nuclear medicine.
And no, i don’t think i’m hot shit.
Just happened to understand the principles of nuclear, how it could help my fellow man from a medical standpoint, etc.
Have been telling people to wake up since 11 March.
Would really like to know your thoughts on Disney opening in 11 days.
That’s right. Disney, U.S. planning on opening its gates on 11 July.
Everybody enjoying the bitchfest, of wear a mask! Social distancing! On and on.
Let’s hear about how you would handle the re-opening of Disney.
Honestly, i sincerely want to know your thoughts on the Disney issue.
June 30, 2020 @ 10:40 am
Erikstink:
I don’t know what Fox News said, but I DO know that CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC and PBS all continue to praise Cuomo, the ignorant governor of NY, who placed thousands of Covid-19 patients in nursing homes with abandon, leading to the deaths of TENS OF THOUSANDS of nursing home residents.
It must be awful to live a life in which one fears his own death every waking hour of every day. I wouldn’t personally know about that, of course.
June 30, 2020 @ 11:01 am
di, you are not a scientist. no one would ever believe that based in your crackpot theories.
June 30, 2020 @ 12:55 pm
So macho there Tex.
Over here in Australia us working class were bragging about how we were all already prepared with masks and gloves because we need them for work.
You buy them them at any place that sells building supplies.
Oh, and we have music in bars again because we are starting to eradicate it.
June 30, 2020 @ 3:01 pm
Blakh4t:
So, an Aussie weighs in. It’s interesting that a citizen of a nation whose own government deems all its civilians as not being intelligent enough to own semi-automatic rifles feels qualified to weigh in on this subject. But I appreciate you doing so. For your information, the couple of restaurants and bars near where I live in rural Texas never shut down. We DEFIED the order to do so. The result? Fewer than 1 in 500 in the county have been diagnosed with Covid-19, and no deaths. Oh . . . yes. One more thing: The music is still playing, and it never stopped.
It’s GOOD to be a free man!
June 30, 2020 @ 3:40 pm
Hey Tex,
Firstly, I can own a semi-auto if I want. Some of my friends do, but I don’t see the need, how hard is it to move a bolt?
2nd, don’t you agree that most people are too stupid to own guns? All you have to do here is show a valid reason for wanting one (including recreational hunting) and you can have one (semi auto you need to have a farm to show you need it). Surprisingly, a simple requirement has stopped a lot of idiots owning guns.
And, likewise, I consider myself free. It was my choice to wear protective gear etc because i was looking after older friends. The government never mandated masks or gloves, we did it anyway because we are a rich enough country they we could afford to be FREE to take a few weeks off work and use masks and gloves because it might help a few people.
Being free doesn’t mean I’d put my music ahead of my friends. Being free means being able to support musician friends so we aren’t trapped in a “need money, but then the economy gets worse” cycle.
Anyway, good luck, your one in 500 sounds terrible to me.
June 30, 2020 @ 4:53 pm
Blackh4t:
So, you can own a semi IF you can PROVE A NEED and IF you own a farm?
That’s NOT FREEDOM! Not by ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION!
Hint: The word “need” does not appear ANYWHERE in the Second Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America.
We take our freedom seriously.
Sorry that you folks don’t take yours seriously.
June 30, 2020 @ 5:04 pm
This thread is way off topic guys. Let’s please try to stick to the discussion at hand.
June 30, 2020 @ 8:57 am
I live far enough out in the sticks that our county has only had one confirmed case, who recovered completely. It hasn’t felt like a life or death thing. Social distancing is pretty easy to do here and the mask seems excessive. If I had grown up in a city where I was in close contact with the elderly / high risk I’d likely have different views.
Thanks for the thoughtful response and all the hard work you do for good music.
June 30, 2020 @ 12:05 pm
Yeah, it’s 6 feet OR a mask.
If you can always do 6 feet of distance, there’s no real need for a mask.
If you want to go somewhere where you can’t do 6 feet, you do need to wear a mask.
It’s very simple, and the data is very clear – a couple barbers caught it two weeks ago…but none of their clients did, because everyone was masked up.
June 30, 2020 @ 1:07 pm
Some of this is pedantic; the headline is the same regardless of the count. 800+ people gathering in close quarters is big problem and makes it more likely that shelter-in-place orders will resume or thousands more people will die needlessly. This is our situations because the federal government has failed to create a third track whereby public health measures like testing and tracing can ensure reasonable openings while minimizing spread. Mad about being stuck between either endless shut-downs and a virus running rampant, uncontrolled and killing at will, blame Trump.
How do you know that the 800 fans who weren’t pictured were distancing? Cause that’s the major issue here. For mass gatherings to work it’s on venues to create and implement distancing considerations that ensure six feet and masks. It can’t be just ensuring there is “enough” room vis-a-vis capacity, it’s ensure that the distancing that that space can allow is also maintained. If you wan’t to open and give country artists and venues a chance, then do the work.
I appreciate Triggers mask advocacy here cause they really works: they are what enable things to open. I want to be open too, so wear one. It’s not “tough” or “manly” to forgo them; they don’t protect you, they protect the grandmas at the grocery store. It’s not safety equipment for you, it’s so you don’t start a contagion that burns through a nursing home.
This whole pandemic has revealed the shallowness/hollowness of so many’s concept of “freedom”. I’ll donate to the ACLU regardless of who’s in office, but Freedom as not wearing a mask and saying “fuck you” to community during a pandemic is how a child would think about liberty. Freedoms are dynamic and interacting. Your “freedom” to mass gather at the front row of a show impinges your neighbors freedom to live life with a modicum of confidence they won’t be written off as yet another sacrifice to all-to-real “the hoax” COVID-19. There’s all kind of liberties out there in the world at stake at all times; they need to be considered and weighed.
June 30, 2020 @ 1:39 pm
“For mass gatherings to work it’s on venues to create and implement distancing considerations that ensure six feet and masks. It can’t be just ensuring there is “enough” room vis-a-vis capacity, it’s ensure that the distancing that that space can allow is also maintained. If you wan’t to open and give country artists and venues a chance, then do the work.”
Brushy Mountain had a specific plan in place, were telling people to social distance, had posted signs, and all of this was a requirement for opening. The venue did everything right as far as putting a plan in place. The problem is fans rushed the stage, and Chase Rice nor the venue addressed the issue. But there was a specific plan in place beyond limiting capacity in a 10,000-person venue to 4,000.
June 30, 2020 @ 2:49 pm
Good on them for all that. And if 800 people rush the stage and violate the rules that ensure public safety then the concert should be stopped. That’s the next step and it was missing.
June 29, 2020 @ 10:10 pm
Who knew, SCM would have an enclave of Chase Rice fans ready to fall on their sword for him. None of whom appear to be named Brandy, a soccer mom from Wyoming.
Great article trigger, we have a problem with reporting perspective here in the UK, the Daily Mail and it’s sister paper, The Daily Express being the biggest offenders.
Yes Chase Rice was irresponsible but its just a gig, not a packed stadium concert.
June 30, 2020 @ 1:04 am
Well said Trigger. Whatever the numbers, what we saw in the vid was wrong, but give the opposition ammo by not accurately reporting.
Tbh this issue was Mgmt. Knowing how weaponized and politicized the issues of social distancing and mask wearing are, they should have seen this coming and avoided doing the show all together. At the very least been ready with a response to the PR disaster and backlash. Doing a live show at a prison when prisons across America are death traps is an irony beyond words. Mgmt is there to see bad optics problems before they manifest and this one is obvious no matter where they stand on the issue. Bruce at triple 8 should be ashamed and issue an apology himself alongside an actual apology from Chris. I’m sure Bruce and his team will lose clout in the industry for not only making an easily avoidable mistake, but also ruining shows that are safe for the rest of the industry.
June 30, 2020 @ 3:37 am
We couldn’t afford the first round of Chinese coup virus lockdowns and this one will just ensure a prolonged depression. I wouldn’t attend a Chase Rice concert if it was in my backyard, but I’m glad he did it. If you’re scared, go ahead and lock yourself away and leave the rest of the country alone to carry on the business of life. All of this horseshit will disappear the day after Trump loses anyway. Hell, it disappeared at the peak of the burning and looting. Clearly, it wasn’t as important as dispossessing actual citizens. But, the sheeple will dutifully don their western burqa and shame and villify those who don’t.
June 30, 2020 @ 4:03 am
Wait. 4000 people like this cuntbag?
June 30, 2020 @ 7:13 am
Enemy of the people, exhibit 1,060,583
June 30, 2020 @ 4:06 am
The virus is weakening.
Cases are up for a wide variety of reasons, from protest infections (Austin, looking at you) to the counting of antibody positives.
Fatalities are way down.
What this means is we’re developing herd immunity.
Upshot: young people should be going to concerts, but they shouldn’t visit grandma in the old folks home afterwards, or anyone likely to. They should also wash their hands, and check their temps for the following ten days out of courtesy to the rest of us.
They can listen to Chase Rice, too, I guess, if they want to. Some people eat insects. It doesn’t mean we have to respect them.
June 30, 2020 @ 4:39 am
Much too early to say the virus is weakening IMO. Full disclosure, my wife has her PhD in Bio-Chemistry so she studies viruses like this everyday as part of her work. That said, deaths tend to be a lagging indicator in this virus. That is to say that cases will flare up, counts will go up, and death numbers will usually lag by about 2-3 weeks from when the cases started spiking.
Your statement, while not wrong, is probably a bit premature. Also, we still don’t know 2 key aspects of this virus. The first is we don’t know how LONG immunity lasts. Most scientists are in agreement that recovering from COVID provides you SOME immunity, but that immunity could last 2-3 years or 2-3 months. We just don’t know enough about this virus to say.
Second part is that we don’t know what, if any, long-term impacts COVID-19 has on the human body. This is the aspect that freaks both me (local government employee) and my wife (scientist) out the most. COVID-19, like the common flu virus, could leave no lasting long-term physical damage to most people who contract it. Or, it could leave lasting damage to the lungs or another organ in the body, even for people who had relatively minor symptoms.
I think we need to walk a line with this virus. We can’t shut down the economy for 2-3 years and stay in a bubble, but I also think ignoring this virus and downplaying it (as some in the media have done as a reaction to the sensationalism of it) is wrong as well.
I get personal liberties and all that jazz, but going to a Chase Rice, Chris Janson, or any other concert right now is a really bad idea for any age group. It’s needless risk, especially since many young people won’t be smart enough to not visit grandma or to stay away from an at-risk co-worker.
As for the venues, as someone who works in economic development, I firmly believe we need additional economic stimulus from the Federal level. But it should be targeted only to venues that present the highest risk to the population and therefore cannot safely operate. Concert venues should be on that list, while the LA Lakers or Shake Shack should not be.
June 30, 2020 @ 7:55 am
Such an insighful comment! Pretty much similar with what’s being published by media around Asia, and the national briefings by Singapore’s PM.
And take Singapore for example: they did early precautions, then they laxxed for a bit after their number went really low for 3 weeks (iirc) – only to end up with massive spikes ‘out of the blue’ that sent the country into lockdown for a month at least, and they are still in first stage of reopening (McDonalds were finally allowed to operate about 2nd week of June). And they are still carefully easing in the new normal rules (the basics mostly: mask, gloves, personal hand sanitiser, no sharing personal items, glass separators on cafes and eatery, NO entertainment venue allowed to operate still).
We really cannot let our guard down yet, since this virus is the trickiest so far. Also if you get to read the news: China just reported a possible new Flu Pandemic, different from C19, may happen.
Truly good luck to people downplaying this. Hope they get lucky with natural selection.
June 30, 2020 @ 2:55 pm
“Your statement, while not wrong, is probably a bit premature.”
Mike, I appreciate your service and your wife’s training. You both know you’re going to die someday. It’s best to confront that fact directly.
Life is one big calculated risk. We know the virus affects old people most, especially those unlucky enough to live in Cuomo’s New York. To me, the best approach is to build a solid hedge around that population and encourage everyone else to take reasonable precautions. I’m not a No Mask For Me type. I respect the requests of private businesses and schools. At the same time, I’m not an alarmist.
This country has a huge population living in cities that has no stomach for risk at all, and they’re sitting ducks for mass media manipulation and scare tactics. That’s why they’re at where they’re at, on top of and screaming at each other, terrified about the Rona and thinking even people who have been asymptomatic since mid-March are the Angels of Death, ready to infect everyone with the equivalent of the bubonic plague.
FFS. Y’all do the best you can, but stay where you are.
June 30, 2020 @ 4:07 am
Wow, this comment section is a dumpster fire. A great article, Trig. Thanks for your perspective and diligent research.
June 30, 2020 @ 5:20 am
I can not believe you wrote that many words in regards to a chase rice concert.
June 30, 2020 @ 9:45 am
This is a much bigger issue than a Chase Rice concert. Live music venues and the careers of many music artists are teetering on the brink at the moment, and if we don’t have deeper discussions about it as opposed to shaming people online based on misinformation, the situation could become even more catastrophic than it already is. For live music, this crisis is existential.
June 30, 2020 @ 5:22 am
I wonder how many of these 809 concert goers were in the high school to college age range. As we learned early on they are more prone to ignore safety precaution put in place.
Regardless it is sad that the media hasn’t bothered to dig in to this story as well as this article has, but instead ran with the outrage.
June 30, 2020 @ 5:36 am
Looks like many “country” gurls & a couple of bois haz the hotz for Cheese…oops…Chase Rice.
Wait…is Chase Rice canceled now or not?
His current single “Lonely If You Are” is one of the (many) tracks on the airplay charts that will not die (#20 – week 52).
June 30, 2020 @ 5:42 am
I have varying opinions on this show. First, most artists that have not reached a certain point in their career has to tour to pay the bills, a band, etc. This has put a hardship on all artists, money that I am sure they thought would be guaranteed as late as early March.
If every artist chose to go back on the road or do these “special’ shows during a time that the Covid-19 numbers are spiking, it wouldn’t be the best decision. The NBA, MLB, NHL are also not allowed to play, and will not play in front of crowds of people when, and if, the seasons ever get started.
I understand people are getting antsy about not getting to go to concerts, movies and…live their life. But, that is no reason to keep throwing caution to the wind when more and more cases are being reported with the virus and more deaths continue to happen. Isn’t it better to be safe than sorry? Do the people attending these concerts want to take a chance of getting the virus, being quarantined with no interaction with anyone and taking a chance of giving it to their friends and family?
The headlines to this story has been deceiving in many news outlets. If only 900+ tickets were sold and the capacity was 4,000, it wasn’t a “packed concert crowd.” With these small numbers, it made me wonder if it was really worth paying a band and the expenses to do the show.
Mostly, the show brought Rice negative feedback from fellow artists. It is rare in Nashville you hear of another artist making a comment that is derogatory about someone else in the community. Whether the criticism is warranted or not based on your opinion, I have to wonder if Kelsea Ballerini made a mistake in speaking her mind about the situation. Rice’s concert-going crowd is mostly made up of young females. So is Ballerini’s fan-base. From some of the comments I read concerning the story yesterday, it appears Kelsea might have lost more than a few fans.
During these crazy times, maybe it is best to think hard about speaking your mind because you are guaranteed of making SOMEONE angry. For the people who believe going to a concert simply because it is ok for protesters not to wear masks, remember two wrongs make…two wrongs.
June 30, 2020 @ 5:51 am
Classic sensationalist Daily Mail article. Everyone in the UK knows that the DM is untrustworthy but almost everyone in the UK still reads it and still gets fooled by articles like mentioned. Now the UK thinks all country fans are stupid.
June 30, 2020 @ 6:33 am
The media selling a pack of lies?
Shocker.
Like RD, if Senile Joe wins, the outrage will disappear overnight sort of how it disappeared during the protests when massive excuses were made for why it is OK to protest but not OK for Americans to gather for church (1st Amendment right) or watch sports.
It is transparent to anyone not plunging steak knives into their eyes.
June 30, 2020 @ 10:04 pm
Protests? You mean the rioting, looting and burning of cities by domestic terrorists? There have been very few actual protests, just leftwing zealots running loose (who are all seemingly free of the ‘virus’).
July 1, 2020 @ 3:32 pm
I was being kind.
I do agree with you. It is all looting and burning and defended by the mainstream media.
June 30, 2020 @ 6:46 am
Just remember ” Wearing a mask doesn’t make you look stupid …..but not wearing a mask does “
June 30, 2020 @ 6:57 am
Heads up!
Disney World, Orlando & Disneyland, CA., both scheduled to open 11 July, 2020.
Guess the Magic Kingdom is going to make the covid disappear by 11 July?
Well, how cool is that
June 30, 2020 @ 7:49 am
Here is what i can not wait to see.
All of the sanctimonious “woke” at the gates of Disney, Orlando, and Disney, CA.
Surely they are overwrought at the knowledge that Disney is responsible for Song of The South. You know, Uncle Remus, Brer Rabbit, and all. Goodness …
Surely they are outraged?!
We are going to see what we see when Disney opens, in 11 days.
June 30, 2020 @ 11:30 am
Will you please fuck off. Who cares about Disney. Stay off the gin.
June 30, 2020 @ 11:48 am
Ahh, Hello Paddy!
Opportunity for some real thought.
Disney. A real issue coming up.
What is your perception of Disney opening in 11 days?
FYI, do not like gin.
But alcohol seems to be big with you.
I’m more of a Patron’s girl.
And a nice red, now & then.
Seriously, no one wants to give the Disney thingy some serious thought.
This is surely a bit evil, but i’m enjoying the hell out of all of the people so sure about the virus, not being able to come up with any angst about Disney reopening.
You people are telling on yourselves …..
And yes, am a real scientist, but that is neither here nor there.
Am a real smartass, as well.
Love how pissed off you get, over another’s opinions, having to stoop to well, you know
June 30, 2020 @ 12:14 pm
Disney. Could not care less. Live in Ireland. And we Europeans have decided no Americans. No Disney here. Disney Paris not opening yet. Safe.
June 30, 2020 @ 1:00 pm
I’m lucky to have an IRP card – I came back to the States for June, to visit family, but I’m hankering for a pint of the black stuff that hasn’t been driven over.
June 30, 2020 @ 12:17 pm
Stop insulting gin, paddy!
Gin is a lovely drink, and doesn’t deserve to be associated with Di’s rambling delusions.
June 30, 2020 @ 12:23 pm
Now we know why you are Cool Lester. But we need a laugh. God bless Di. She gives us loads of laughs. Now if she were on TV instead of Dr Fauci. Even Donald would be bewildered.
June 30, 2020 @ 12:40 pm
Thanks Paddy!
Perfect segue opportunity.
Speaking of Fauci …
Fauci is now saying we need to be concerned about a new swine flu coming out of China.
Gotta hand it to these guys.
June 30, 2020 @ 12:27 pm
Ahh, Cool Lester!
Opportunity for some real conversation.
(This just keeps getting better & better …)
What are your thoughts on Disney, U.S., opening in 11 days?
June 30, 2020 @ 1:49 pm
paddy, be nice. di is a scientist, immunologist… mousecateer. she knows what she’s talking about!
June 30, 2020 @ 2:03 pm
And that is why we need her on TV. Do you think she could be the VP that Biden is looking for.
June 30, 2020 @ 2:08 pm
Ah, Paddy.
Engage your brain.
Tell us what you think about Disney reopening
June 30, 2020 @ 2:50 pm
boy, wouldn’t that be a cinderella story!
June 30, 2020 @ 7:53 am
Imagine killing your Nana just to go to a CHASE RICE concert.
June 30, 2020 @ 8:12 am
Imagine “social distancing” during flu season, which is more likely to kill your Nana. You cant can you?
June 30, 2020 @ 9:01 am
Not sure where you get your numbers from, but every measurable statistic says your statement is obscenely false. Twice as many people in the US have already died from coronavirus as our worst flu season in memory.
June 30, 2020 @ 8:10 am
Social distancing and facemasks are a joke. Against the constitution. If people want to go out in a crowd you cant stop them, not should you want to. Covid deaths have fallen dramatically despite a so called rise in cases. Want to know why? Flu season ended and they cant chalk up flu deaths as covid. Live free and fuck anyone who tells you otherwise
June 30, 2020 @ 9:34 am
And a good chunk of the deaths were from the government messing up with nursing homes and listing deaths as COVID-19 responsible for the money.
June 30, 2020 @ 10:07 am
Please point me to the part of the constitution that states you have the right to not wear a facemask? I am curious, do you also refuse to wear pants in public under the same principle?
June 30, 2020 @ 12:15 pm
That would be in the Bill of Rights, the tenth amendment:
“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
Seak, I myself have been known to wear shorts in public.
I like to show a little leg now and then, for the common good.
June 30, 2020 @ 12:25 pm
It’s pretty clear that it’s Necessary and Proper to require masks, in order to ensure that Interstate Commerce can be conducted safely.
June 30, 2020 @ 12:37 pm
Which would (potentially) apply except that “police powers” are expressly delegated to the states. And police powers are defined as (and were defined at the time) to include matters involving public health, including – but not limited – to quarantines. In fact after the Revolutionary War Philadelphia had instituted a quarantine due to yellow fever. Which is why you cannot legally walk around naked either.
June 30, 2020 @ 1:02 pm
Hm. They could likely use the Commerce Clause to mandate that states enforce mask-wearing, where physical distancing is not possible.
June 30, 2020 @ 2:41 pm
Then why is it not “necessary and proper” for everyone to wear masks all the time? Flu, viruses, and cooties are everywhere 24/7.
You force lovers are all the same. Why not mandate all truckers to wear hazmat suits? It’s for the children!
As long as we’re talking Article I, there’s this overlooked dance partner: “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions.”
Nah, it’s easier to force the middle class to wear masks because, unlike insurrectionists and invaders, there’s no danger of them ever fighting back.
By all means, think up more ways to force people to do what you want. Nothing could be more American.
June 30, 2020 @ 3:11 pm
Oh, gosh. You’re definitely overcompensating for something, champ.
I bet you get really upset about drunk driving laws infringing on your personal freedoms, too.
July 1, 2020 @ 3:37 pm
Liberals don’t care about the Constitution especially the Tenth Amendment. Their history of tyranny proves that. The Constitution is an annoyance to them.
June 30, 2020 @ 7:20 pm
wow rusty . i hope you are living in the U.S. and not north of the border .
i’m in the most vulnerable demographic and work at a senior’s care facility .
unless i’m told that masks CAUSE covid i’m assuming the only reason someone wouldn’t wear one is ego .
and sorry ….but ‘ holier than though ‘ just doesn’t fly when other’s lives are at stake .
June 30, 2020 @ 10:04 am
Case numbers are skyrocketing right now, including in Tennessee, and especially in Florida or Texas. That noted bastion of liberal thought (hah) Goldman Sachs, put out a report today that a nationwide mask requirement could save as much as 5% of the GDP (this is hundreds of millions of dollars). You want to be able to go to concerts again? You want your kids to go back to school in the fall? WEAR A DANG MASK! and practice social distancing. And if you see someone doing something irresponsible (namely everyone involved in these concerts, because there was zero chance a concert without assigned spaces/seating was going to have social distancing), say something. Stuff like this just hurts everyone.
For the time being we’re going to have to be more creative in how we have concerts. BUT there also seems to be positive momentum for a vaccine in 6-9 months. It’s only temporary pain. Also pressure your local politicians into rent relief so that your favorite venues, who are acting responsibly, can afford to re-open and not close or incur enormousness debts.
June 30, 2020 @ 10:10 am
Also, this serves to highlight a much bigger issue, in many areas the “proper precautions” are a joke. So yes, the “local rules” were followed, the local rules just aren’t that interested in actually curbing the spread of covid. This forces promoters, and musicians into a tough position, where the responsible thing to do is say no, but is hard to justify. On the other hand, situations like this also leave the venues, promoters, and musicians open to massive amounts of liability should an attendee get covid as CDC guidelines weren’t followed.
June 30, 2020 @ 10:44 am
Read the studies that show wearing a mask does absolutely nothing unless you are in a sterile environment. In the public, they can actually make things worse.
June 30, 2020 @ 11:02 am
Here, from an actual microbiologist. It has pictures: https://www.wbtv.com/2020/06/29/demonstration-aims-show-effectiveness-masks/
https://www.facebook.com/TheHoldernessfamily/videos/284020486047804/UzpfSTE4NDAwMTI1OjEwMTA2MTU2MjI0MjY5MTk1/
June 30, 2020 @ 11:48 am
We were told months ago to stay home for a short time to flatten the curve. We flattened it and now you and your gang of control freaks want to move the goal posts.
Of course, cases would go up again after we reopened. Important thing is, the death rate hasn’t skyrocketed. We have data now showing that it isn’t as deadly as feared.
Killing the economy for the large majority to save a small minority was silly. It just caused more suffering but then again Democrats had to kill it to take down the president. Russia didn’t work. Impeachment failed. But sickness and racial tension work every time.
What a tragedy.
June 30, 2020 @ 12:46 pm
The whole point of flattening the curve was to stop the escalation of numbers & to put in place a system to allow us to re-open safely…which we didn’t. Which is why nearly every other developed country has massively reduced cases, and ours continue to spiral out of control.
But yes, the person over here trying to avoid another quarantine, and allow schools to re-open in the fall, concerts to happen etc is a control freak, because the snowflakes can’t handle a piece of cotton over their mouth & nose.
July 1, 2020 @ 3:34 pm
Michael Levitt disagrees. And he has been right on the COVID-19 since the beginning.
But you keep whining about snowflakes.
July 2, 2020 @ 10:42 am
Yup – every other major country in the world is reopening to a certain extent, as are the mask-wearing states.
Meanwhile, the fragile idiot brigade is screwing things up for the rest of us.
June 30, 2020 @ 2:57 pm
It’s a tragedy that you cannot look past all the lying and scandals that spew out of his mouth and crop up every day. He is irresponsible for holding rallies in Oklahoma and Arizona. It is irresponsible and killing more people. Btw the president is taking himself down by his own lies and corruption.
July 1, 2020 @ 3:34 pm
You triggered enough? What a waste of words.
June 30, 2020 @ 10:06 am
Good work on this. Everyone jumps on these to fast before getting the details.
Watching Ray Wylie Hubbard’s Twitter feed over the weekend he was playing the Idaho festival. His brief comment when somebody questioned it was that the proper precautions were being taken. I wonder how that actually worked out for him.
June 30, 2020 @ 10:22 am
Also for the record, they attempted to sell 4000 tickets, but only 900 people were dumb enough (regardless of covid) to pay money to hear Chase Rice.
June 30, 2020 @ 10:55 am
Hmmm, there is such think as personal responsibility, as in if you didn’t want to go to the concert, you didn’t have to. They’re acting like he forced people to crowd together and attend the show.
June 30, 2020 @ 11:49 am
Quarantines are for the sick not the healthy. Take the at-risk to stop being selfish and stay home and let the strong keep the country going.
Like every nation has done in the past when pandemics hit. We kept going during the Hong Kong Flu.
June 30, 2020 @ 12:39 pm
Why is it Chase Rice’s fault that the fans made individual decisions to attend his concert?
June 30, 2020 @ 1:53 pm
how is it that there are so many stupid people on this site? it would be fascinating if they weren’t hellbent on endangering other people because of the mildest of inconveniences.
June 30, 2020 @ 1:58 pm
I’ve never been convinced by anybody who started by calling me stupid.
June 30, 2020 @ 2:09 pm
if people aren’t going to listen to professionals who have devoted their lives to studying infectious diseases (or whatever field), it doesn’t really matter. it’s incredible that people have the mindset that they know better than these people because of something they saw on a blog or from some radio or tv personality.
June 30, 2020 @ 2:49 pm
Notice from the video joe most of his audience is young girls. He’s a fuck boy plain and simple
June 30, 2020 @ 2:56 pm
Yet more fodder for those who say country music has the dumbest fans on the planet.
June 30, 2020 @ 3:54 pm
don’t know this singer or his songs . doesn’t matter .
he shouldn’t have tried to do a show in the middle of a pandemic risking the health/lives of thousands .
BUT ….it’s not all his fault . its the fault of the federal and state governments for allowing citizens to be exposed to threats when with one signature they could have made it illegal by simply declaring it , unsafe , inconsiderate , foolish , unnecessary and dangerous . done .
governments messed up and are still messing up . its their job to protect us from these threats , not chase rice’s job . leadership fails us again .
June 30, 2020 @ 5:20 pm
I hear so many people saying how it was everyone’s choice to go the concert, which is 100% true. I probably wouldn’t have as big of a problem with it either if the people who chose to attend were exclusively the ones who could get sick and they were unable to then spread it around to other people who are trying to be responsible. I miss concerts as much as those people did apparently, and I am ready to move on with my life too, but having a cancer survivor in my family makes things way more concerning. Regardless, I do think both Chase and Chris set back when concerts are going to be happening again even if people actually wore masks and spread out. This isn’t good media attention for the genre at all.
June 30, 2020 @ 9:15 pm
“From commanding, “Get your little fine ass on the step, shimmy up on inside” in his song “Ready, Set, Roll,” to asking, “What if I shut ya up with my lips on your lips” in the creepy song “Whisper,” this Survivor contestant turned 3rd tier pop country performer has been composing the soundtrack to date rape since he showed up on the scene.”
I kind of thought the bro-country escapist fantasy fad had run its course, but I had the misfortune of hearing a few hours of a “new country” station over the weekend and yeah, nope, little has changed in that universe. Shimmying asses poured into jeans, frozen drinks, pickup trucks, swimmin’ holes, beers, the beach, just song after song of it. Sigh.
July 1, 2020 @ 3:38 pm
Man, the pro-mask arguments here are nothing but appeals to emotion. “WHAT ABOUT NANA?” “WHY DON’T YOU CARE?”
Good grief.
July 2, 2020 @ 4:34 am
Oh my God you rednecks are hilarious.