Country Hall of Fame Makes “Joke” By Snubbing Hank Jr. / Jerry Lee Lewis
The 83-year-old Jerry Lee Lewis recently suffering a stroke, and who knows how long we’ll remain graced by his presence on earth. The most decorated and successful artist in country music still not in the Hall of Fame remains Hank Williams Jr., calling into question the entire legitimacy of the institution’s charter by refusing to induct him. The last living link to country music’s historic past in the form of Don Maddox of the Maddox Brothers & Rose sits in a humble abode in Oregon feeling forgotten, yet remembering fondly the important role his sister Rose played for women in country music. Yet in 2019, the Country Music Association passes over these names and many other deserving candidates for its only slot in the extremely crowded Veterans category for Country Music Hall of Fame induction to give the distinction to an artist who began his career as a pop star, and is best known for performing songs about streakers and berserker squirrels.
What a joke.
This is no offense to Ray Stevens specifically. At all. Repeat, this is no offense to Ray Stevens, who was announced as the Veterans Era inductee into the Country Music Hall of Fame on Monday (3-18) as one of only three inductees that make it in each year. As a country music character, there are few like Ray. Along with all the joke songs, he had a career as a session musician and a successful pop career that has gone under-appreciated for decades, and these resume points were likely reasons he won the nomination. Ray Stevens was seminal in setting up Branson, Missouri as an important country music enclave in the Midwest. Ray Stevens is one of country music’s funniest, and well-beloved entertainers in history, and in a genre that many forget just how much comedy played a role in its formation.
But few, if any expected Ray Stevens to be inducted before the litany of other much more worthy names. Even by the most liberal estimates, Ray Stevens should have been half a decade out from even being considered for this honor as the Hall of Fame works to clear an incredible backlog in the Veterans Era category, including a dozen or more entertainers who it now makes significantly less likely will be living when they finally receive their deserved Hall of Fame distinction, if they ever do at this pace.
The other 2019 Hall of Fame inductees were fair picks, and are hard to quibble with. Brooks & Dunn was a commercial powerhouse for over a decade, and if anything were overdue themselves as Modern Era inductees. Though you will find some traditionalists who will proclaim their music as mall country, the Brooks & Dunn legacy has aged very well. Of course it’s not coincidence their induction coincides with the upcoming release of a new Reboot album re-recording some of their biggest hits with today’s stars. But that doesn’t make their induction any less deserving.
Jerry Bradley as the Non-Performer inductee will have some citing the nepotism in the process, since both his father, Owen Bradley, and his uncle, Harold Bradley, are both also Hall of Fame inductees. But the Bradley family played an indelible role in the formation of country music as a viable industry in Nashville, even if they also helped put in place a system that commonly stifles creativity—the same system which is still in place today. But this was a solid pick, and you would be hard pressed to pour over the resume of Jerry Bradley and say he doesn’t belong. And in this case, his advanced age makes it a timely pick as opposed to a curious one.
But what’s the payoff here for picking Ray Stevens? Are we highlighting him just because he recently constructed a Branson-style theater west of Nashville on a bluff overlooking a Wal-Mart called “CabaRay”? How does this forward the legacy of country music? How does this engage the public in the Hall of Fame process, which has become such an annual snooze fest, even a site called “Saving Country Music” can barely get anyone to pay attention to it? It just smacks of some behind-the-scenes lobbying and payoffs to the people in the ear of the CMA’s secret committee who makes these decisions and appear to be too institutionalized to take more global view of what’s happening in the genre, what the will of the general country music fan is, and whose legacy deserves to be highlighted in a given moment.
When Dottie West was selected last year, it seemed like there were others more deserving as well. But the pick made sense in a myriad of ways. She was well-deserving and had waited well past her time too (RIP). The pick came as the effort to highlight the contributions of women in country music and beyond was being pushed to the forefront. If The Maddox Brothers & Rose, Tanya Tucker, or Lynn Anderson had been picked this year, there would have been a few gripes, but it would have been understood. Now a whole host of fans and artists feel hopscotched, and disenfranchised by the process.
What does the Country Music Hall of Fame want to be? A host of names barely anyone has heard of are in there, including Jerry Bradley. Meanwhile Hank Williams Jr. and Jerry Lee Lewis stand on the outside looking in. This also smacks of the continued failure of the CMA as country music’s only true governing body to enact any semblance of scene control in what is going on in country music, from the continued incursions of pop and hip hop into the genre, to the lack of women being represented. The CMA just doesn’t seem to be paying attention.
Congratulations to Ray Stevens who was deserving of this distinction, eventually. But the CMA and the Country Music Hall of Fame need to take a good, long look in the mirror after a group of individuals entrusted with this incredibly important task perused over a list of names that included artists like Jerry Lee Lewis, Hank Williams Jr., Ralph Stanley, The “Voice” Vern Gosdin, Gram Parson, and so on and so forth as worthy inductees, and instead inducted “Ahab the Arab.”
Everyone has an opinion of who should be in the Hall of Fame. But few held the opinion it should be Ray Stevens. Sorry Hall of Fame. Love you, but this was a bad, bad pick.
READ: How Are Performers Elected to the Country Hall of Fame?
March 18, 2019 @ 10:35 am
You had to put either Jerry Lee Lewis, Hank Williams Jr., or Maddox Brothers and Rose in via the Veterans Category this year. HAD TO. Now, the backlog is just stupid.
Get your flu shot, Jerry.
March 18, 2019 @ 12:30 pm
I’m surprised you are clamoring for Jerry Lee Lewis to get this honor. I don’t think any rapist (statutory or otherwise) needs to be receiving an honor in modern times. And I dont want to hear the excuse that marrying/having sex with 13-year-olds was ok at the time, because it seemed to have tanked his career.
March 18, 2019 @ 1:43 pm
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March 19, 2020 @ 1:43 pm
Stupid Remark
March 20, 2020 @ 3:00 am
Sarah go back to your cave
March 18, 2019 @ 1:46 pm
If Jerry Lee Lewis’s career tanked, then how did he go on to have:
– 4 No. 1 Billboard Country Hits
– 23 Top 10 Billboard Country Hits
– 55 charting Billboard Country Songs
???
You make a better ill informed troll than you do a historian – for both Jerry Lee Lewis’ career and his personal life. Both are greatly skewed. Learn your facts.
Hank Williams Jr. on the other hand has:
– 10 No. 1 Billboard Country Hits
– 42 Top 10 Billboard Country Hits
– 99 Charting Billboard Country Songs
Ray Stevens only has:
– 3 Top 10 Billboard Country Hits
– 33 Charting Billboard Songs
Also, for those of you who claim to like Hank Williams Jr. and not Jerry Lee Lewis (and think Jerry Lee isn’t country)…
Do you know that Jerry Lee Lewis taught Hank Williams Jr. how to play piano?
Hank to this day plays and dedicates a song to Jerry Lee Lewis during his shows. I have a feeling Jr. would have a few choice words for you people.
March 18, 2019 @ 2:24 pm
I’m not saying he didnt have a career, I’m just saying that even at that time, what he did was seen as inappropriate.
You can bombard me with all the musical statistics and snide remarks you want, but nothing is going to convince me that in 2019 we need to be celebrating a child rapist.
March 18, 2019 @ 3:23 pm
Well you did say his career “tanked” which isn’t really true.
Sure. I get it, but calling the man a rapist is a little far. Two people fell in love and got married before consenting to any intimate relationship. You can’t apply today’s standards to yesterday. One shouldn’t compare their own culture to the next man’s. Times change as do expectations in cultures.
Statuatory rape laws weren’t even thought of in Louisiana in 1957. It just wasn’t seen as a bad thing at that time in that region of the world. Just a different culture.
Elvis Presley moved Priscilla into Graceland when she was only 14. Although he kept it a secret for 4 years. Which is creepier to you?
I’m not saying either situation is right or that I agree with it. I’m just saying that it is very true that it was a different time in the south in the 1950s. You can’t apply today’s mindset to people who weren’t taught and led to believe like we are taught and led believe today.
Would you go to an African tribe and lock a man up who wears no clothing and accuse him of a sexual assault charge? No. It’s a different culture.
Lincoln helped end slavery. He also believed African American’s shouldn’t have the right to vote, be on juries or hold public office. Does that make him a racist? No, not really. He still stood up for the human condition. It was a different time.
Edgar Allen Poe married his 13 year old cousin when he was 27
Albert Einstein and Charles Darwin also married their cousins.
We praise them endlessly. They are taught in schools around the world on a daily basis. Not because of their personal lives. But because of what they contributed to this world.
All I’m saying is that you can’t condemn people who lived at a different time in history and belived in different ways/standards than we do today.
I’m not trying to bombard you with snide remarks…
I just think you’re not being open minded. People who refuse to see the full picture are usually the ones who end up hating a certain type of people.
Racists, sexists, homophobes, etc.
One must look at all the factors and conditions before casting stones.
That’s all.
And even if your mind isn’t changed, that’s ok.
The Country Music Hall of Fame doesn’t elect people based on their personal lives or beliefs. It’s based on what they contributed to country music. That’s just fact. Those statistics I gave you are also fact. That should be what matters on this forum.
March 18, 2019 @ 4:18 pm
@JT…I bet you wouldn’t say that if it were your 13 year old daughter..and No, it was never OK for a grown man to have sex with a 13 year old… regardless of where you live? or where your from
March 18, 2019 @ 4:26 pm
JT, here’s the wikipedia article that outlines how his career was impacted by him marrying a 13-year-old if you dont believe me. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Lee_Lewis
I dont think calling him a rapist is going too far. They were not two consenting adults, he was an adult and she was a child, unable to consent to marriage or sex. They clearly were having sex, she had multiple children with him underage, so I would say that makes him a rapist.
I do see your point about it not being fair to hold historical figures to modern day morals, but thats why I made the point that even back then he faced a backlash for marrying a 13 year old.
Impregnating and marrying 13-year-olds was not an a acceptable practice in the 1950s, and it shouldnt be something we brush off now. What Elvis did to Priscilla was wrong, and lots of people are looking back and realizing what a pedophile Elvis was.
I’m not able to look past what Jerry Lee Lewis did, and I’m never going to brush away someone exploiting the people around them just because they have talent. With so many quality musicians to choose from, why choose a child rapist?
March 18, 2019 @ 6:35 pm
@sarah
Again you’re only looking at half of the equation.
His career was greatly impacted, yes –But only for a few years. He rose to the top of the country charts a mere 5 years later – with the statistics I provided above to prove it. Look it up.
That should indeed show you that the people of his culture (country fans) didn’t see the marriage as a problem.
Yes, he faced backlash – I’m not denying that, but not from his own people…because where he was from it wasn’t seen as bad. Again, you’re not considering the different cultures.
The backlash predominately came from the northern states and England. Not the south.
African Americans in the South couldn’t even use the same restroom as White Americans when this event happened. The north was obviously way ahead of the curve on many issues. You have to realize, it was still less than 100 years after the Cival Was. The North and South were still drastically different
So maybe you see why you shouldn’t hold historical figures to modern day morals, but you evidently don’t see why you shouldn’t compare one culture’s beliefs/ways to another culture’s beliefs/ways.
@Carolyn Nizuk
Of course I wouldn’t say that if it were my daughter. But that’s because it’s 2019 and I didn’t grow up in that era or culture. I grew up with different beliefs than Elvis/Jerry Lee. As did you and Sarah.
Jerry Lee Lewis’ parents gave approval of the marriage, as did Myra’s (bride) parents. Myra’s father (Jerry’s 2nd cousin) was Jerry Lee’s bassist…and remained his bassist for many years.
Same with Elvis. The parents on both sides gave approval. Priscilla’s father was an Army General.
They weren’t/aren’t pedophiles or rapists. They just lived and we’re taught to belive a different way than we do today.
March 18, 2019 @ 7:31 pm
Hey, u shouldn’t speak on shit, if u don’t have all the facts…jerry Lee married the female and in that tym, older men married younger females…
March 19, 2019 @ 6:25 am
What about Loretta Lynn, who married Doo when she was in her early teens and was a mother by the age of 16? Doolittle was older — roughly the same age span as Jerry Lee and Myra. I’m not saying what Lewis did was morally right but there are other Hall of Famers (and I’m not counting Loretta among them) who have questionable pasts.
March 21, 2019 @ 5:00 pm
Sarah, your’s and society’s judging of Jerry Lee and Myra (as well as Elvis and Priscilla and now R. Kelly for being with Aliyah) is amazingly hypocrotical considering the USA doesn’t even take into consideration the age of a child when sentencing them to life inprisonment for a heinous crime. If you don’t care about that, or other egreious hypocries that’ve gone on in American society (a child being detained as an adult war crinimal when it was his father that took him to fight in war, a teenager being arrested and charged for having sex with another teenaqer, a young girl in prision for murder for trying to defend herself from a man who paid to have sex with her, and last but not least-a particular bugaboo of mine-sending kids off to military academies), you and others lose the right to sit in judgement of Lewis and his wife, or anybody else (ever heard of Brabara Davis Sherry? She’s the daughter of Bette Davis, and she got married at age sixteen to David Hyman, thirty years her senior, and with the blessing of her mom, who gave her away at the wedding!) Both were in love, both consented (remember that part of the law?) to be with each other and make love to each other-and both are still together, last time I heard. Consent is the key word here, and if a teenager consents to having sex with an adult, and the law permits this (it still does, only now in the USA and Canada the age of consent’s been raised from 14 to 16, which became a band of contention for queer youth when this happened here in Canada a few years ago), they should be able to do so. Obviously Jerry and Myra were in love, and they did it (although Myra was too young to do it, I’ll admit.) What happened with R. Kelly and Allyiah shiuld have been seen the same way (and Aliyah most likely consnted to doing it with Kelly, got on with her life after the affair, and even named her album Age Ain’t Nothing But A Number.)
It’s time for society to decide what it wants for children, and to be consistent with age, sexuality, and crinimal matters regarding them; either a child is able to do this while society puts them in jail for serious offences and sends them (or carries them) off to war, or a child isn’t; it should not be having its collective cake and eating it too having both.
As for Lewis, it’s high time for him and Williams to be in the Hall of Fame, particularly soonest for Lewis due to his age (and if he isn’t already, he should be in the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame as well.); Ray Stevens should be waiting a while, and he really should be inducted into a hall of fame for novelty song artists as well as the RRHOF.
March 20, 2019 @ 10:24 am
Tell em off. J t hank jr and jerry Lee still are no.1 in my book hank just tell country. Music association if I ain’t country you can kiss my ass. Hank and. Jerry Lee are. Still the greatest in the world!!!!!!!!
March 19, 2020 @ 9:24 pm
JT…Shame on you! Presenting facts and truths! You know better than that! In today’s World….”they’re”… are more interested in sensationalism and fictional “untruths”. Reality….Jerry Lee Lewis and Hank Jr….should have been in the HOF a long time ago! No “if ands and buts”!
March 18, 2019 @ 2:06 pm
If only he had waited and booked a seat on the Lolita Express, all would be cool.
March 18, 2019 @ 3:16 pm
Jerry Lee was no rapist you idiot????if anyone deserves this award it’s Jerry not only the RNR hall of fame but country as well he’s one of the best
March 18, 2019 @ 4:24 pm
JT , you say that the only criteria for induction should be what the individual has done for country music ? Please name any performer alive or dead , who has contributed more to country music than Hank Williams Jr. that has not been enshrined in the HOF ? Hell , there are countless songs paying homage to Bocephus by many inductees . His exclusion makes a sham of the entire hall !
March 18, 2019 @ 6:04 pm
Couldn’t agree more!!
March 19, 2019 @ 8:07 am
We see things that happened in the first part of the 20th Century through the eyes of the same people who share memes on facebook about “not adulting today”. Becoming an adult used to be a societal virtue, but in the age of helicopter parenting, we stretch out childhood as long as possible. In the rural South, poor white people at 14 worked harder in those days picking cotton and plowing behind mules and became more responsible and sober minded than 30 year old keyboard warriors in their parents’ basements are now. You were getting old at 50, and if you died in your 60’s, no one thought it happened too soon. For that reason, I don’t know that I can judge old rockabillies like Elvis and Jerry Lee. Meanwhile, their talent and contribution to music is monumental.
March 18, 2019 @ 3:55 pm
Moron!!! Who the ____ are you??? If you keep your mouth shut, no one will know how ignorant you are!!! Obv, you didn’t live in the ‘Deep South’…
March 18, 2019 @ 4:16 pm
Sarah, forgiveness is in order. He married that girl decades ago. Damn, move on. Jerry Lee Lewis is a born again Christian and a tremendous talent. He deserves to be in there.
March 18, 2019 @ 4:22 pm
Obviously saying that Jerry Lee Lewis should be in the Country Music Hall of Fame is in no way an endorsement, or even an acceptance of any of his behavior, and asserting so is not only untrue, but irresponsible. Calling him a “rapist” is the exact type of draining of complexity and expungement of nuance that is causing the rhetoric our time to spiral towards Civil War, while also eroding the power of these words when they actually become necessary and important. The idea there is no difference between Jerry Lee Lewis, and someone who would stalk a child and rape them against their will is an untenable intellectual position, and the only reason such rhetoric is being used is to ratchet up to the extreme the position against him, which ultimately undermines it by exposing the agenda of the accuser.
Again, I will not defend the actions of Jerry Lee Lewis. But I will defend against this dangerous use of words by people who want to project anger on others as opposed to engaging in healthy dialogue.
March 18, 2019 @ 5:25 pm
Trigger,
I just want to say that I fundamentally disagree with this idea that it’s somehow a moral failure to marry a 13 year old. Loretta married Doolittle when she was 13 (just giving another example).
As long as the parents give consent, and the man has a good heart and takes care of the girl and is faithful to her, there’s not a thing in the world wrong with it.
March 18, 2019 @ 8:46 pm
I don’t know trigger. It’s hard for me to imagine a situation where a 13 year old is able to consent to those kinds of decisions, and if there’s no consent, then by definition it’s rape. Considering that this kind of behavior continues to happen, just look at the RKelly situation, I think it’s an important conversation to have and it’s important that the country hall of fame not do something that would condone his behavior in anyway.
A child’s parents cannot provide consent to sex for the child and an adult is still taking advantage of that child no matter how “nice” or “talented” he is purported to be.
I also think it’s a poor reflection of your character Trigger that I said something that I sincerely believed, backed it up with explanation, and was not vulgar or name calling in anyway, unlike many of the people who responded to my comment, yet I’m the one “not engaging in healthy dialogue” and causing a spiral toward “civil war.”
March 18, 2019 @ 5:52 pm
Hummm..a rapist? Get your facts right…and go grind your ignorance axe elsewhere…
March 21, 2019 @ 1:12 pm
Bill, he married a 13 year old LOL what more do you need?
March 18, 2019 @ 6:04 pm
Still whining about unimportant shit that happened over 50 years ago. Let go of your weak thought process. LISTEN to some unbelievable GREAT music by an UNAPPROACHABLE GREAT musician. Jerry Lee Lewis lays ALL to waste. Including Elvis, who tops ANYONE on ANY chart. ALL of you are WEAK. I wouldn’t even want to be considered in this obsolete institution. Country music hall of TINY THINKERS is what it should be called. Stop trying to put the Killer in. He’s far, far, far above all of them. Your welcome. ????????????????????????
March 18, 2019 @ 6:15 pm
We’re ALL “weak”?
March 18, 2019 @ 7:06 pm
YES. Great music is Great music. Everything else is insubstantial. Whether you are pro or con Jerry Lee, it should only be about the music. Nothing else matters. Your welcome again. ????????????????????????????☄????☄⚡⚡
March 19, 2019 @ 7:13 am
Believe it or not, some people actually think that the victims of sexual predators matter more than a good song.
March 20, 2019 @ 1:05 pm
Waaaahhhhh. ???????? Go cry somewhere else.
March 19, 2019 @ 7:04 am
I agree with you 100%.
May 6, 2019 @ 6:56 pm
The Country Music Hall of Fame,is about a Performer,Singer,Musician,Songwriter,Producer,that made their “Mark” in Country Music, by Nashville’s Standards.
They don’t Induct people by a Moral Code, by some of the Yae-hoos, running the Show at the Hall of Fame,the President, Electors,who are Record Producers,Publishers,Members of Bands,might hold grudges today on things of the Past, but not of today.(CMA controls Country Music Hall of Fame)
Example: Gov Mike Huckabee,joined the Country Music Association Board. Just ONE day later, was asked to resign,because his Christian Belief against Same-Sex Marriage. Because : Jason Owen President of Monument Records,and Sandbox Entertainment, he and HIS Husband ,Sam,were offended by Huckabee’s being elected to the CMA Board. Jason’s Companies, make Donations to the CMA Foundation/Hall of Fame.
The “Killer”,is part of era,when Older Guys,married Teen Girls. Jerry Lee, Elvis,etc.. Chuck Berry wrote “Sweet Little 16”,and Chuck got charged by the Mann Act, for taking a 14yr old Apache girl,Janice Escalante,for purposes. Chuck did time in Missouri State Penitentary.
Chuck Berry has wrote so many Country Music Hits, that others Recorded. Brown Eyed Handsome Man-Waylon,You Never Can Tell-Emmy Lou Harris,30 Days-Ernest Tubb,Living in the USA-Linda Ronstadt,and more. So Chuck is eligible to be Inducted for his Songwriting Hits. Should he be disqualified because of what I just mentioned ?
We live in an Era of Me,Too. Not,I wanted it,Too.
September 13, 2019 @ 6:12 pm
TROLL! LIAR!
December 5, 2019 @ 8:26 pm
Elvis did the same thing, it’s just that “Colonel” Tom Parker, his manager, kept it under wraps so Elvis’ career wouldn’t get ruined like Jerry Lee’s did.
March 18, 2019 @ 3:07 pm
Hank Jr should be in or the institution is not legitimate! But then there is Batman!!!!
March 19, 2019 @ 5:15 am
This thread is why Jerry Lee will never be inducted while he’s alive, if ever.
March 19, 2019 @ 8:08 am
Folks clamoring for Jerry Lee Lewis to get into the Hall of Fame are not just doing it on a lark like they likely are for Gram Parsons or David Alan Coe. Lewis has been rumored to be on the final ballot in the Veteran’s Era for years, and just can’t pass the final hurdle. Maybe it is due to the public relations issue it would cause, but have you ever heard “Ahab the Arab,” or some of Ray Stevens’ others songs? I don’t have a problem with it because I know it’s comedy, but luckily the “woke” journalists of country don’t even know who the fuck Ray Stevens is right now, or it would be a bloodbath.
March 19, 2019 @ 12:59 pm
More like a tear-bath.
March 20, 2019 @ 5:09 am
That’s true about Stevens, but his sins don’t come any where near the image nightmare Nashville would face if they inducted Lewis.
If it’s racism vs incest/statutory rape, I guarantee you the lesser of two evils is racism in the eyes of Nashville’s powers-that-be.
Also, halls of fame for all industries have unspoken codes they adhere to when it comes to the personal behavior of potential inductees. Theres a reason Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds arent in the MLB hall yet — they’re steroid riddled assholes.
They’re halls of fame, not halls of infamy. Sometimes professional success is outweighed by personal failures.
April 7, 2020 @ 5:36 pm
Seth Lampass Your an idiot. Your making baseball comparisons with people who cheated. Jerry Lee never cheated anyone but himself. The man is the most famous piano player of all time and your attempt to lower him in any way whatsoever dont get it for me. Have you ever bought a Jerry Lee Lewis record in your life Mr. Judgement? I highly doubt it. He has given everything night after night, decade after decade. By your criteria Elvis wouldn’t have been in the HOF nor Hank Williams, nor most folks. This is the Country Music Hall Of Fame not the Christian Hall Of Fame. And who says he dont belong in that Hall too! Jerry Lee is one of the things that has made MY life worth living and I thank God for him. God bless the Killer!
March 19, 2019 @ 6:26 am
Who needs the country music hall of fame when your songs speak for themselves! Seriously Hank Williams Jr, and Jerry Lee Lewis are both Living Legends and there Music will be here long after this NEW COUNTRY MUSIC IS DEAD!
September 2, 2019 @ 7:49 am
They both should be recognized!
March 18, 2019 @ 10:38 am
Where’s Dwight Yoakam? Marty Stuart? Keith Whitley? etc.
March 18, 2019 @ 11:13 am
Well behind Hank Jr.
March 19, 2019 @ 9:53 am
Different category.
March 18, 2019 @ 11:18 am
I expect all three of those guys to go in within the next five or six years, with The Judds, and (gulp) Shania Twain and Kenny Chesney likely thrown in there somewhere.
I’m not worried about those three at all. It’s just a matter of time. Unfortunately, it’s just a matter of time when name deserving Veterans Era inductees pass away before they ever get their opportunity.
March 18, 2019 @ 11:37 am
Can we pass on Shania Twain? Surely there will always be a more deserving nominee i.e. someone who made actual country music.
March 18, 2019 @ 11:42 am
I wouldn’t vote for her, and I think she’s still a few years out from being a serious contender. But I’m also a realist and know she was a commercial powerhouse who will receive lots of votes.
March 18, 2019 @ 11:46 am
Marty stuart and dwight yoakam suck ass so who cares where they are i can can tell u where those two rhinestone bitches aint and thats on my radio
March 18, 2019 @ 12:22 pm
To Hell with you Dwight Yoakum has made some great music.
March 18, 2019 @ 12:26 pm
Don’t feed the troll, people.
(Although I suspect this will fall on deaf ears.)
March 18, 2019 @ 1:34 pm
But he sounds so classy and intelligent with his middle school boy vocabulary!
September 13, 2019 @ 6:40 pm
You are right. We mustn’t feed the troll, sbach66.
March 18, 2019 @ 12:43 pm
You suck ass
March 18, 2019 @ 1:58 pm
All right, then. Keep on listening to your shit ass Luke Bryan and Thomas Rhett.
March 18, 2019 @ 2:30 pm
Lol for “rhinestone bitches,” but pig ignorant when it comes to country music. Swimming in estrogenated water, too.
March 18, 2019 @ 7:16 pm
You don’t know a thing about talent ,,,
March 18, 2019 @ 7:35 pm
Your showing ur ignorance Mike Pagan…in general , I hate mf’ers that voice their opinion on stuff they know nothing about . ..esal
March 18, 2019 @ 9:09 pm
Thats funny but spot on Mike lol .Rhinestone bitches..lmao
March 19, 2019 @ 9:54 am
Is this supposed to be sarcasm?
March 19, 2019 @ 1:20 pm
No, he’s using his mom’s computer while she’s at work
March 18, 2019 @ 10:44 am
I’m still annoyed that nobody ever mentions Wanda Jackson or Jessi Colter. If you want to induct pioneering women, those two should’ve been in long ago.
March 18, 2019 @ 10:48 am
If you were going to pick a comedian/entertainer, it should have been Jerry Clower.
March 18, 2019 @ 11:51 am
That’s a great pick, iffin’ you’re going the comedian route.
March 18, 2019 @ 8:10 pm
Ray Stevens is more than a comedian. He has worked as a sessions musician, arranger, producer, songwriter, singer and pianist, performing country, pop and gospel music, and a businessman.
March 19, 2019 @ 9:56 am
I so agree. I think a lot of people don’t realize his history in the business.
March 25, 2019 @ 11:13 am
But the fact remains that Ray Stevens was never a major country star, at best he had a couple of singles do well on the chart but I seriously doubt in any single year he even placed in the top 25 acts of that year on the country chart.
March 28, 2021 @ 5:12 pm
What I think’s become a travesty is how people have come to view the Country Music Hall of Fame. Based on Tom’s comment it’s as if he’s saying you should only be a contender if you constantly ranked within a Top-25 popularity poll or something.
Why can’t artistry and natural talent be enough to get into the Hall of Fame? Why have it be a popularity contest?
The talents of Ray Stevens are what finally got him elected. You’d have to be a fan of his, like I am, to understand that we feel as strongly about him as others feel about Wanda Jackson, Jerry Lee Lewis, Gene Watson, Stonewall Jackson, and others who aren’t in yet. We (Ray Stevens fans) were thrilled when his name was announced as one of the newest members.
To have some declare that Ray isn’t “good enough” to be included, well, that kind of reaction tells me there are those who don’t really know much about his career or they’ve never actually listened to his records. He’s been making records since 1957. He sings more than comedy songs, too. He’s a musician, music arranger, record producer, songwriter, song publisher, and all around entertainer.
To counter the remark about Ray never being a major country star. The fans of country music who watched The Nashville Network in the 1980s and 1990s and the subscribers of Music City News magazine voted Ray Stevens ‘Country Comedian of the Year’ for 9 consecutive years (1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, and 1994). Although Ray is more than a comedian on records it’s the comedy that is the most popular. His country comedy albums sold millions as did his home videos that he sold on television. It had been awhile since an entertainer known for country comedy was elected to the Hall of Fame so it’s not unprecedented. Minnie Pearl, Grandpa Jones, Rod Brasfield, Whitey Ford, ‘Little’ Jimmy Dickens, Johnny Bond…those acts are all known for comedy but they’re also all in the Country Music Hall of Fame…and finally Ray’s name is added to that list.
March 18, 2019 @ 10:50 am
Trigger,
Couldn’t agree more.
March 18, 2019 @ 10:54 am
I’m just completely baffled by this pick. The veteran’s pick often goes to people that weren’t necessarily the ones to expected, but still make sense. Who on Earth was clamoring for Ray Stevens though?
March 18, 2019 @ 10:57 am
Trigger I couldn’t agree more. I will be sharing this article like crazy. Thank you for your perspective.
For trivia purposes, it’s worth noting the irony in the fact that Hank Jr. inducted Jerry into the Rock in Roll Hall of Fame in 1986. There is video of the event on YouTube.
March 18, 2019 @ 11:23 am
The H-o-F seems to favor artists who had long-time presences on the Opry–i.e. the Browns, Ferlin Husky, Porter Wagoner et al. I think that’s why Ray Stevens just “feels like” a H-o-F member, even if there are more worthy country artists who have not been inducted.
Heck, if John Conley is now the “replacement” for Roy Acuff on the Opry, he may eventually get in!
March 19, 2019 @ 6:36 am
The Browns’ Opry presence really wasn’t all that long as Maxine and Bonnie retired after only a few years’ membership in order to raise their families. Jim Ed, however, retained his membership as a solo artist. The Browns had some HUGE crossover hits in the Fifties early Sixties and were a big part of the Nashville Sound. Ferlin was pretty much off the Opry after the Sixties. For Porter, his syndicated TV show was incredibly popular up North — as was the Wilburn Bros.’ show — taking country music into the homes of millions every week for years.
March 18, 2019 @ 11:30 am
Jerry Lee is a murderer, and his country tunes sucked. Long live Hank.
March 18, 2019 @ 11:43 am
Agree, if I had to pick between Ray and Jerry, the only two old guys on earth,, Ray gets the nod. Not sure how/why Jerry is even in this conversation at all. He is NOT country.
March 18, 2019 @ 1:05 pm
Jerry Lee’s catalogue has more country albums in it than rock and roll. And a lot of those are fantastic country records.
March 19, 2019 @ 5:35 am
I guess we can all have our opinions, but in my 50+ years listening to country music, the only Jerry song I can think of is something about making Milwaukee famous. Can’t remember anything else,, so he must not have made much of an impression in the country music world. Seems he had a few others that made the country charts,, but then again so have all the bro-country clowns on the scene today, and they ain’t country either.
March 19, 2019 @ 9:32 am
“Can’t remember anything else,, so he must not have made much of an impression in the country music world.”
Starting with Another Place Another Time(The album with What’s Made Milwaukee Famous) JLL had five albums chart in the top 5 of the Billboard Country albums as well as six others that charted in either the top 10 or Top 15. During that time he also had as JT pointed out above:
– 4 No. 1 Billboard Country Hits
– 23 Top 10 Billboard Country Hits
– 55 charting Billboard Country Songs
May 6, 2019 @ 7:56 pm
mike,you don’t anything about Country. Click on and Watch :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFsr4rLuEqE
March 18, 2019 @ 12:45 pm
Jerry Lee is a pedophile !!!!
March 18, 2019 @ 5:09 pm
by murderer, you mean ‘The Killer’ and Jerry is a goddamn legend., have a seat son, the grownups are talkin…
March 19, 2019 @ 4:38 am
You know he shot his bass player in the chest with a .357, right “son”?
March 18, 2019 @ 11:35 am
Wtf country today is a damn joke I’d rather listen to whitey Morgan Jackson Taylor Tyler Childers Dallas Moore all damn good but u won’t hear them on the radio
March 18, 2019 @ 11:39 am
I cannot believe it,,, or I guess I should say I don’t want to believe it. Ray Stevens??? Really?? This guy is a clown,, I supposed if there were know one else available for the veteran choice, ok, pick Ray but not till then.
I wish, and I don’t know if this has ever happened,, but as an original outlaw, Hank should tell them to shove it up their ass if he ever was to get nominated/inducted. That would be great.
March 18, 2019 @ 12:11 pm
I believe Waylon tolt them to shove it. Didnt even go to the induction (he was also in poor health at the time). On a side note, i was a fan of the Ray pick.
April 17, 2019 @ 4:23 am
Ray is an amazing piano player and great gospel or soul singer and a pretty good serious songwriter. These talents are overlooked because of his corny songs.
March 18, 2019 @ 11:51 am
Yoakam is unique in everyway and always overlooked.
March 18, 2019 @ 11:52 am
Jerry Lee is a stunning country singer.
Not incredibly prolific, but he sings with a soulfulness few other artists achieve.
And I love Bocephus.
March 18, 2019 @ 11:53 am
Jr.’s record of success is just plain unparalleled compared to anyone not currently in the CMHOF. If voting was based on the music and its impact, there’s simply no rational way to keep him out.
But he’s always been a rebel-rouser, and stuffed shirts shy away from controversy.
I suppose that’s the same reason JLL didn’t make it.
But then why not somebody like Johnny Horton, who basically popularized his own sub-genre and whose contributions still inspire artists today?
I guess I don’t hate the Ray Stevens selection in a vacuum. It’s just so easy to find more obviously deserving names who should have made it in years ago…
June 22, 2019 @ 9:03 pm
Hank Jr.’s record of success is also unparalleled by many (not all) that have been inducted before him. When I grew up in the 1980’s he was the biggest country act out there. His concerts outsold many rock stars.
March 18, 2019 @ 12:02 pm
Once again, how the hell is Johnny Horton not in there as well?
March 18, 2019 @ 12:02 pm
Hank Jr and Jerry Lee Lewis? Whatever. Maren Morris got snubbed and i’m not going to stand for it.
March 18, 2019 @ 3:05 pm
You do you, Black Boots.
By the way, the new Zeph OHora record kicks ass.
March 18, 2019 @ 3:35 pm
As much as i like her, you know I was kidding, I hope.
I looked up Zeph Ohora on Spotify, but all that came up was a 2017 record, so i searched youtube and didn’t find the new one either, but i found this.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_2fLwM4w3E
Sounds really good. Kinda like the Aaron Neville of country or something.
March 18, 2019 @ 4:18 pm
You can hear clips on Instagram. His engineer Aaron Nevezie has more. I haven’t heard lyrics, but everything else is so first class it’s ridiculous. This crew is Owen Bradley on Adderrall.
Get the first record on disc.
March 18, 2019 @ 12:07 pm
It seems it’s now obvious in the now over political atmosphere of our country Jr. Isn’t getting in unless something changes. As far as Jerry he had a good country career, but let’s be honest it was a last resort when rock and roll left him. I’d much rather see some one like Gene Watson or Moe Bandy who has represented traditional country music thier whole careers get in before Ray
March 18, 2019 @ 12:32 pm
This guy gets it.
March 18, 2019 @ 12:13 pm
This is really nothing new. The Hall of Fame and its election process has pretty much been political for nearly 60 years. Webb Pierce was the biggest selling country artist of the 1950’s, and his induction came 10 years after his death, and in reality should have came a decade or more before he died. Dolly Parton was inducted before Porter Wagoner; Minnie Pearl campaigned for Rod Brasfield; The mass induction of 2001 conveniently was the election year of Waylon Jennings, Don Gibson and the Everly Brothers all which had no plans of showing up for the event.
I have asked several times what constitutes a “tie” in the categories. No CMA official has ever responded to me. There has not been a tie since 2011, and that was with Jimmy Dean and Ferlin Husky. Both were on deaths door. I suspiciously believe the CMA chose them that year (not saying at all they didn’t deserve induction) rather than the full fledged election. I believe the process of election is not as “flowered” as the website and other sources lead us to believe.
For the last decade Nashville public relations firms have companied for several nominated artists, including Mac Wiseman, Jean Shepard, Bobby Bare, Jerry Reed, Dottie West and (I suspect) Ray Stevens.
I agree Hank Williams, Jr., should be in the Country Music Hall of Fame. Today, now, its past time. But the longer it goes on the less I believe it will happen while he is alive. And I ask myself the question, “Is this something he wants?” I’ve never seen an interview with him with this subject brought up. Waylon publicly said, “It does not mean a thing to me, I won’t show up” and he didn’t. Hank, Jr. may have the same feelings.
Now- Ray Stevens is 80 years old. I would have voted for him if I had a ballot in front of me. He’s been in the business for nearly 60 years. Others considered in that category, Hank, Jr., Crystal Gayle, The Gatlins are much younger. I would have taken care of Ray now. I feel the same about Mickey Gilley. I would love to see Stonewall Jackson and Jerry Lee Lewis as well, but I feel their chances are slim. Gram Parsons, David Allan Coe, Johnny Paycheck, etc., will never be on a ballot – EVER. There is a great backlog of early pioneers such as Bradley Kincaid, Lulu Belle & Scotty, Wilma Lee & Stoney Cooper and even Stringbean that need enshrined as well.
I believe the categories need revisited, and a couple extra added. Five inductees a year, would not be too many.
April 17, 2019 @ 4:33 am
That was a pretty depressing list of people not in it. While I don’t think the Country HOF is as screwed up as the the R&R HOF, it’s a shame such greats and near greats are ignored.
I watched a recent episode of Country Family Reunion and one segment had the Malpass Borthers singing two Stonewall songs, paying all sorts of tribute to him before and after the songs. Then Stonewall got up, and at 86 seemed a little wobbly. The look on everyone’s face once he started singing That’s Why I’m Walking was amusing, as his voice was still rich and full. It was nice to see he could still sing so well and professionally.
May 11, 2019 @ 4:03 pm
David B,
Hank, Jr. has told people that he doesn’t care if he gets in the Hall of Fame or not and that if he does get elected, he will not show up for the induction announcement, so that’s why he wasn’t considered as a finalist for induction into the Hall of Fame this year.
As I’ve said it before, the finalists for the Hall of Fame this year were supposedly:
Veterans Era: Crystal Gayle, Mickey Gilley, The Osborne Brothers, Linda Ronstadt, The Stanley Brothers, Ray Stevens and The Wilburn Brothers.
Modern Era: Brooks & Dunn, Larry Gatlin & The Gatlin Brothers, The Judds, Marty Stuart, Tanya Tucker, Steve Wariner and Keith Whitley.
What do you think?.
March 18, 2019 @ 12:18 pm
anybody opposed to Ray Stevens going in can go suck on an egg
The dude played studio trumpet for Elvis freaking Presley
Sorry, but Hank Jr didn’t do that
Ray Stevens has remained relevant a lot longer than Mr Monday Night Football, since he’s actually still producing new work and isn’t just coasting on his superstar status
Go Listen to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y_lpLK-y58
or this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaTDfgqUAmE
Sorry but not sorry.
Simple fact that Ray has better range and tone than Mr Rowdy Friends over there
And If it had to be anybody, make it Don Maddox
but come on, folks? Vern Gosdin?
I’m the biggest fan of Vern Gosdin that God ever created but even I don’t think he’s a Hall of Famer
Ray Stevens is simply of more consequence than Vern Gosdin and has continued to remain relevant and creative, unlike Hank Jr who has basically went from coasting on Daddy’s name to coasting on his own
and he’s a legend. no denying that
But what has his output been since 2000?
certainly no more significant than Ray Stevens
March 18, 2019 @ 12:28 pm
Dwight Yoakam definitely deserves to be there in the Country Music Hall of Fame.
April 6, 2019 @ 3:44 pm
I say D.Y. shoulda gotta Best Supporting Actor for Playin “Doyle” in Slingblade.Everybody hated Doyle when an actor is that convincing he’s doing his job and doin it well..J.L.Lewis Get Well Soon. Hope you make it to 100 OL’Boy!!!..Bocephus finally got “Entertainer of the Year”and 2 more to follow after the fact..up until.Major Moves and Five-o He was pretty much ignored except for us Good Ole Boys..We played Hank VERY loud, until Somebody finally listened.Too bad they weren’t the prior 10 years He’d already had a greatest of the greatest hits and A New Country Anthem.”A Country Boy Can Survive”, we ALL wanted to be like Hank, instead of like Mike (Jordan) LOL
March 18, 2019 @ 12:38 pm
Who knows whether Ray Stevens’ time as a Nashville studio musician and arranger, and a brief run as a country hitmaker, qualifies him for the HoF? Certainly, there are many lesser lights in there. (Rod Brasfield??) There’s no real criteria for the CMHoF, and being part of the Nashville scene seems to be an honored criteria.
My concern isn’t (necessarily) Stevens mediocre output — it’s the racist nature of his best known material, starting with “Ahab the Arab,” and including “WOrking for the Japanese,” “Obama Nation,” “Come to the USA” and “Osama Yo’ Mama” — not to mention the not-necessarily-insensitive but certainly-not-funny “Bridget the Midget.”
Not that they would, but if someone the stature of, say, Loretta Lynn or Waylon Jennings had such material in their canon, the temptation to overlook it for the “greater good” of their work would be hard to resist. But, Stevens’ solo work is lightweight at best. His most noteworthy non-novelty song is “Everything is Beautiful (in Its Own Way)” seems to fly in the face of the mean-spirited race-baiting of “Come to the USA.” (“We’ll help you start a house of prostitution/If that’s the kind of work that you wanna do/You see those gringo infidels are crazy/They’ll give citizenship to your new baby”). His other top-20 “country” hits? A song about streaking. A note-for-note ripoff of Homer & Jethro’s version of “Misty.” And a song about a shriner’s convention. Surely, Tanya Tucker or Hank Jr’s recordings are more impressive and have more of a lasting influence. And, let’s not forget the song when he imitated chickens clucking to “In the Mood.”
I’m sure when Stevens comes up for his medallion, the band will play “Everything Is Beautiful”, and praise will be heaped on him for being both a funnyman and a serious musician. But, make no mistake — it will be a sad day, For the victims of Stevens racist songs, the “circle” will be broken when a plaque him is installed.
March 18, 2019 @ 1:33 pm
I don’t think you can really be a victim of a song. Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me.
March 18, 2019 @ 3:15 pm
There are people the world over, most notably and most recently in DC, who would disagree- not that they mean squat to most people but it seems some in DC want to make it “officially” wrong to speak ill of someone (especially pocket liners) it seems there are “some words” which do hurt- wanna guess who?
March 18, 2019 @ 6:41 pm
Good, if somewhat harsh analysis of Ray Stevens. Obviously he had musical ability, but he’s defined by his “comedy” output–and most of that is so low-rent–banal, bigoted, or both–that he seems to be parodying himself. I respect Stevens as a maker of product and a hugely successful live performer who understood the market he was playing to.
March 19, 2019 @ 4:37 am
Ray Stevens is the Weird Al Yankovic of country music
March 19, 2019 @ 9:52 am
This is an insult to Weird Al, whose song parodies have been consistently pretty intelligent lyrically, and notably, not blatantly racist and embarrassing in retrospect like those of Ray Stevens.
April 17, 2019 @ 5:09 am
Ugh. Is weird Al an accomplished musician on several instruments? Was he a session musician? Can he play a soulful or gospel piano as well as Ray Charles?
Ray’s annoying comedy songs have prevented a lot of people from seeing his rather amazing talents.
March 19, 2019 @ 7:45 am
You can’t be serious?
April 17, 2019 @ 4:35 am
Jeez!
March 18, 2019 @ 12:39 pm
The Willburn Brothers, and Jimmy Martin are also sorely needed in the hall. Hank jr. Certainly belongs. JLL had a country output from the late 60’s through the early 80’s almost unparalleled. Not to mention he championed songwriters. But Jimmy Martin is the most glaring omission.
March 18, 2019 @ 1:01 pm
Congratulations to the winners, I guess it’s a contest? Such a long list of entertainers who have had great careers, It must be really hard to pick just a few each year..So glad to see they picked atleast one women this year. Oh wait I guess the Country Music Hall of Fame, decided they couldn’t come up with a worthy Female Country Entertainer. Wouldn’t it be funny if next year, the entertainers were all women?
March 18, 2019 @ 1:06 pm
Y’all are nuckin futts. Ray should be in there. Bochefus should have been in with the Hag and the Possum. Oh Jerry Lee you had a whole lot of shakin goin on but the P.C crowd forgets that back in the day you married your 13 yr old cousin #1 there was a lot of poor 13 and 14 yr old girls gettin married like my mom and dad.#2. Y’all better look back in your family tree before you condemn this great country ivory ticklin musician. And OH BABY THAT’S WHAT I LIKE.
March 18, 2019 @ 1:06 pm
It is a dam shame hank jr didn’t get picked this year. The cma committee must be a bunch of liberal ass people Also there are still lots more deserving people left to be inducted in veterans category like Vern gosdin,Lynn Anderson, Jerry lee,Johnny Horton and many more. This backlog of veterans is getting ridiculous and a mass induction is needed. I am glad for ray and he is deserving but just at a later time. Hall of fame is turning out to be a joke in some ways.
March 18, 2019 @ 1:14 pm
It’s incredible that the Stanley Brothers are not in the CMHOF. They along with Monroe and Flatt & Scruggs are the three pillars of bluegrass/mountain music. Bill, Lester and Earl have been inducted… why not Carter & Ralph??
March 18, 2019 @ 1:27 pm
Jerry.leeand.
Hank.jr.should.be.in.the.hall.of.fame.they.are..both.a.lot..better.country..then
That.junk..ray.stevens.puts.out.
Ray.was.good.when.he.wa
Young..but.not
Now.
March 18, 2019 @ 1:43 pm
I’m surprised with Stevens induction but I guess he has had a long and varied run in the industry of course my picks are dark house canadates like Gram Parsons, Gary Stewart and Jerry Jeff Walker so I guess we will see what happens next year. I am surprised but not shocked!
March 18, 2019 @ 1:47 pm
Any website that regularly promotes the induction of Gram Parsons, really has no business criticizing the Hall’s picks.
At least Ray Stevens has charted some songs.
March 18, 2019 @ 2:10 pm
Gram Parsons was hugely influential and is still listened to today by young people.
March 18, 2019 @ 3:18 pm
Myth.
March 18, 2019 @ 4:25 pm
Exhibit A, Emmylou Harris and her musical children
c’mon Honk
March 18, 2019 @ 5:45 pm
Rodney crowell ain’t no good
March 18, 2019 @ 2:41 pm
Easily one of the most overrated people in country music history (Gram)
March 18, 2019 @ 3:16 pm
Doesn’t one have to be part of C(c)ountry music history in order to be one of its most overrated people?
March 18, 2019 @ 4:03 pm
Fair point . He has been astroturfed into the genre somehow
March 18, 2019 @ 4:53 pm
What’s the difference between the Stones’ and the Burritos’ version of “Wild Horses”? When you listen to Mick Jagger sing “I watched you suffer a dull, aching pain”, you hear a guy singing “I watched you suffer a dull, aching pain”. When you listen to Gram Parsons sing the same line, you FEEL a dull, aching pain. Right there, in that difference, is Country. Compliments of G.P.
March 18, 2019 @ 5:26 pm
Gram Parsons gets mentioned in this discussion every time. It’s always been a laugh and puzzlement to me as well. Parsons was an outsider in every way, not part of the country establishment, kinda what you would call an interloper lacking a single radio hit. Now that the mob wants to hang me, I will say I like the dudes songs. Flying Burritos were fun, the Sweetheart of The Rodeo record is quite good. He also brought Emmylou to the scene and in all of it I sense he was sincere about his love of country music. He was a decent writer and he had some good melodies to boot. If he had not died, who is to say he wouldn’t have gotten into mainstream country eventually. Maybe he would have fallen in eventually with Willie and the boys in Texas and become part of the Outlaw scene. I guess we will never know. He left behind some nice work. But deserving of country hall of fame? Not sure I see that.
March 18, 2019 @ 1:54 pm
I think Jerry Lee should have been in the country Hall of Fame a long time ago
March 18, 2019 @ 1:56 pm
Was so disappointed on my last visit to the Hall of Fame five years ago when I walked in the first thing I saw was a big display all about Taylor Swift. No, she wasn’t and isn’t a member of the HOF but the fact that she was anywhere near the place was nauseating and it dawned on me there and then that it wouldn’t be long until she and the other pop artists would become members one day soon at the expense of real country artists. The day hasn’t happened as of yet but it’s not that far away. When that happens the HOF will no longer have any real relevance to people who love real country music.
Maybe they should open another HOF for the pop country acts of the 21st century.
I simply can’t stand the though of the likes of Taylor Swift being in the same honoured position of the likes of Hank Williams, Waylon, George Jones and the other country greats who are there now.
March 18, 2019 @ 1:58 pm
I haven’t seen many complain that Brooks and Dunn are going before Hank. Wow! Who has had more country albums on the charts at one time? and 5 time entertainer of the year?……HANK WILLIAMS JR. ! Screw cma
March 18, 2019 @ 2:01 pm
Jerry Lee is a joke, redneck trailer trash!
March 18, 2019 @ 3:13 pm
This is country music- that’s not a bad thing????????♂️
March 18, 2019 @ 2:13 pm
Well…three inductees every year. With so many artists & the rich history of country music the Hall should add a category or two like a “Pioneer” category for artists of the 1920s to the 1950s.
Or rotating categories for “Entertainer” (like Ray Stevens), “Media” (like Chet Flippo) & “Live” (for artists with success on the road but not on the charts).
March 18, 2019 @ 2:21 pm
I don’t understand why they can’t induct more than 3.lots of people belong there.no,I have no problem with Ray being inducted.he’s a very talented man.I also agree that hank and Jerry Lee should be there but there’s also a lot of people who should go in and go in now.
March 18, 2019 @ 2:42 pm
Ray who ? Hank, Jerry Lee and Coe deserve it.
March 18, 2019 @ 3:26 pm
Paycheck before Bocephus.
March 18, 2019 @ 3:28 pm
Hank Jr for sure needs to get in. This is a travesty that needs corrected!
March 18, 2019 @ 3:34 pm
There’s no consensus on the criteria, lat alone the picks, so why not toss the whole concept and make it the Country Music Hall of History?
I don’t need some industry bint to tell me what’s important. I damn well know what’s important. But I don’t know Everything, so a Hall of History would be great.
Too much Pretend.
March 18, 2019 @ 3:49 pm
If they vote Jr. in…is the HoF afraid of the can of worms that will follow since they haven’t re-instated Sr….as well as the campaign by 3?
March 18, 2019 @ 4:25 pm
Hall of Fame and Opry are two separate entities. I do think fear of political repercussions is one of the reasons Hank Jr. is still on the outside looking in, but I don’t think Reinstate Hank has anything to do with it.
March 18, 2019 @ 4:20 pm
Hof will be great special honor for Hank jr to get in ,take in understanding that Jerry Lee is 80years old ,,maybe he needs to get inbefore his time is over Hank is the best ,has millions of fans ,wish he can get in soon ever since he first begin his music career have ben a fan
March 18, 2019 @ 4:22 pm
Jan Howard should be next. Great performer. She is true country, and deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. This lady is a gem.
March 25, 2019 @ 11:10 am
She is a great singer but the HOF has ignored so many female singers who were much bigger from her golden years it’s almost impossible to imagine them electing Jan Howard.
March 18, 2019 @ 4:27 pm
Trigger, I really wish you’d find something to say about the Danny Burns album, North Country. It’s the best thing this year so far along with Joshua Ray Walker IMO. I think the folks here should hear about him.
March 18, 2019 @ 4:55 pm
Hey Euro,
Danny Burns is definitely on my radar. Trying to write as many reviews as I can.
March 18, 2019 @ 4:31 pm
Keith Whitley? Not many country singers have influenced as many in a short period of time as Keith Whitley and along with one of the best voices in country music history.
March 19, 2019 @ 6:45 am
How about one of the main guys who inspired Keith? Carter Stanley. Lefty and Lester, who hugely influenced Keith, are in. Why not the Stanley Brothers? After all, Ralph gave Keith his first big break just as he did with Skaggs.
March 19, 2019 @ 9:05 am
I can agree with that but Keith would be every bit as deserving also. I would like to see all of them in the HOF
March 19, 2019 @ 10:20 am
Keith has influenced more traditional country singers than anyone in the past thirty years. A once in a generation voice. Maybe next year?
March 19, 2019 @ 12:58 pm
That’s what I was trying to say to begin with. Keith no doubt would have left such a great legacy behind if he lived longer or was still alive.
March 18, 2019 @ 4:43 pm
Nothing against Brooks & Dunn, nor Ray Stevens. But there are SO many more deserving candidates that could have been inducted. At the rate they’re going, the CMHOF will NEVER get to everybody that deserves to be inducted!
People like Bob Luman, Jack Greene, Gene Watson, The Wilburn Brothers…..the list could go on forever, unlike their nominees.
March 18, 2019 @ 4:53 pm
How about Johnny Rodriguez also..
March 18, 2019 @ 5:11 pm
Well, are we really surprised? We live in a world where Kelsea Ballerini gets invited to join the Opry but they haven’t reinstated Hank. There is nothing logical or correct in Nashville anymore.
March 18, 2019 @ 5:33 pm
Why aren’t Jack Greene and Wynn Stewart getting more support in this regard. Both are long overdue to be elected.
March 18, 2019 @ 6:55 pm
Wynn Stewart had like 5 top-10 hits. And after he scored a #1 with “It’s Such a Pretty World,” he just wouldn’t stop. “Something Pretty,” “It’s a Beautiful Day,” “Heavenly,” “I Feel Pretty,”–Does someone see a pattern here?–Yeah, as in “Gag Me With a Spoon.” That guy ain’t getting into the H-o-F.
March 20, 2019 @ 10:04 am
I’m not getting the gist of your comment. Oh well.
March 18, 2019 @ 6:54 pm
Hummm..a rapist? Get your facts right…and go grind your ignorance axe elsewhere…
March 18, 2019 @ 6:56 pm
Wynn Stewart had like 5 top-10 hits. And after he scored a #1 with “It’s Such a Pretty World,” he just wouldn’t stop. “Something Pretty,” “It’s a Beautiful Day,” “Heavenly,” “I Feel Pretty,”–Does someone see a pattern here?–Yeah, as in “Gag Me With a Spoon.” That guy ain’t getting into the H-o-F.
March 22, 2019 @ 6:17 pm
You seem to have an unnatural hatred of Wynn Stewart, since you keep posting the same comment. You know, Dwight plays him regularly on his Bakersfield Beat radio show, and I trust Dwight’s taste in music.
March 22, 2019 @ 10:35 pm
I don’t keep posting the same comment.
I tried to post it once. Then it was still showing on my screen in ready-to-post form, so I hit “Post Comment” again. Then it showed up on the board twice. That’s a problem with the site software.
I don’t hate Wynn Stewart. I bought a CD compilation of his work. He’s an interesting artist, apparently was influential to Haggard and Owens, but had limited success in his own right. And I find his fixation on “pretty/beautiful world” songs after achieving success with “It’s Such a Pretty World,” to be humorous. Most of those “follow-ups” are awful. Maybe it wasn’t Wynn, but his producers who foisted that on him. Who knows.
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Bobby Bare had a fixation on recording songs about being homesick after having success with “500 Miles” and “Detroit City.” Thankfully, he got away from that and had more success with a variety of material.
Bare is deservedly a H-o-F’er. Stewart is deservedly not.
March 18, 2019 @ 7:12 pm
To “Saving Country Music” — GREAT ARTICLE!!
Does lobbying on the part of an entertainer or his/her surviving friends and family influence the CMA’s secret HOF election committee? I think Ray Stevens’ election over a field of more worthy candidates supports the growing belief that YES, lobbying plays too heavy a role in the decision of who gets inducted. I further believe that Ray’s premature induction (he’s deserving of the honor eventually) proves that inductees are chosen not so much by an open vote but rather by a very small group of CMA insiders, who control the voting committee.
It was either two or three years ago that Ray Stevens was spotted at one these HOF Announcement ceremonies, leading some YouTube posters to ponder online whether he would be one of that year’s inductees. I had a different theory. He was there supporting the CMA and lobbying for his own induction at some point in the future. It was at this point that that I knew Ray was an insider favorite and would be inducted soon.
This would not be the first time this has happened. As early as 1964, favoritism reared its ugly head. That was the year that Tex Ritter was inducted ahead of Ernest Tubb, Bob Wills, Bill Monroe, and most notably, Gene Autry. To me, both Autry and Ritter belong In the Hall, no doubt. Both were pioneers and leading proponents of the sub-genre of the Singing Cowboy and spent their most productive and celebrated years operating OUTSIDE of the Nashville music industry. But to me, Autry was the more successful, more influential artist and deserved to be the first Singing Cowboy inducted.
So why wasn’t he? Because in the late ’50s, Tex Ritter started focusing more of his energies in Nashville, recording there and even helping to found the Country Music Foundation and its sister agency, the CMA. I believe Tex even had an office at the CMA’s headquarters. His Nashville and CMA connections were an obvious factor in his premature induction. Again, Tex belongs in the Hall, just not ahead of the artists I mentioned above.
MORE EXAMPLES:
1982:
Roy Horton, the former president of Peer-Southern Music Publishing, was inducted in the Non-Performer category. It wasn’t until 2 years later that the CMA sheepishly inducted Ralph Peer himself, THE FOUNDER of that publishing giant and the man who singlehandedly discovered both Jimmie Rodgers and The Original Carter Family during the historic “Bristol Sessions” in Bristol. Tenn., in August of 1927. These monumental recording sessions are generally regarded as the genesis of the country music recording industry that survives to this day. So . . . how did Peer’s successor merit induction before Peer himself? Simple — Roy Horton was a founding member of the CMA and cut the ribbon on the first Hall of Fame and Museum building in 1967 during his term as CMA President. The CMA insider got the nod over the true country music innovator.
1987:
There was a very weak list of nominees that year — so weak that the only 3 nominees I remember are Hank Thompson, Lulu Belle and Scotty Wiseman, and Opry comedian Rod Brasfield (of whom I was a big fan thanks to “Stars of the Grand Ole Opry,” Al Gannaway’s glorious 35mm color footage of Opry performers captured between 1954 and 1956). Why did I consider it a weak list? No Webb Pierce, no Ray Price, no Don Gibson, no Tennessee Ernie Ford. So anyway, my pick from the CMA’s list of nominees was Hank Thompson, who I truly believed to have made the greatest contribution to country music from among that bunch. When Rod Brasfield’s name was announced as the 1987 inductee on live TV during the annual CMA Awards broadcast (yes, they used to announce the inductees on primetime network television before the CMA decided that younger audience members didn’t care about the HOF and didn’t want to sit through some “boring” acceptance speech from some “old fogey”), I thought it was very strange . . . because just the year before, the 1986 inductee was another Opry comedian, Whitey Ford, The Duke of Paducah. “Two comedians in two years, and all those deserving singers are made to wait,” I wondered. I later learned that Brasfield’s induction came as a direct result of a one-woman lobbying campaign known as Minnie Pearl. Here, I learned that lobbying trumps deserving.
1995:
Longtime CMA executive Jo Walker-Meador, who never wrote, sang, produced, or published any country song was inducted in the Non-Performer category . . . over Don Law and Ken Nelson, two of country music’s most prolific and influential record producers. These 2 men were responsible for some of the greatest songs to ever top the charts during country music’s golden era of the 1950s and ’60s.
1998:
In the now-defunct Inactive Performer category (dead performer), Opry favorite George Morgan was inducted INSTEAD of The Delmore Brothers, The Louvin Brothers, or Webb Pierce. Morgan had a beautiful voice and was a well-liked man in Nashville, but he didn’t have that many hits or make that much of an impact. His induction was likely the result of lobbying by daughter and Nashville star Lorrie Morgan.
1999:
See above, only substitute Johnny Bond in place of Geo. Morgan and the surviving Bond family in place of Lorrie. Johnny Bond was one of Jimmy Wakely’s guitarists. Wakely was the much bigger star during their heyday (outside of Nashville), but I don’t think Wakely was even nominated . . . EVER. Johnny Bond developed Nashville/CMA ties later in life, which definitely influenced his induction.
2001:
The year of the MASS INDUCTION (12 inductions in all). But did you know that during the original voting process, Bill Anderson was the ONLY performer to be inducted that year — Whispering Bill Anderson AHEAD OF Waylon, Don Gibson, Webb Pierce, The Louvin Brothers, The Jordanaires, and other more deserving performers? Anderson is a fine songwriter, but better than Don Effing Gibson? Bill’s induction into the Hall definitely could have waited until the creation of the Songwriter’s Category a few years later. I’m guessing the CMA seemed to sense a potential firestorm of controversy and decided to follow Willie Nelson’s advice to “play catch-up.” Thus, the huge number of LONG OVERDUE inductions who were unceremoniously dumped into the Hall that year.
2012:
Lobbying by husband Marty Stuart was key to getting Connie Smith inducted.
2014:
At that year’s HOF Announcement Ceremony, Jo Walker-Meador came to the stage to announce the induction of a Bluegrass performer. Bluegrass? Yes, The Stanley Brothers, Ralph and Carter, are finally getting in!!! Then Jo started giving the inductee’s bio, which included a reference to the fact that his office was next to hers in the old CMA headquarters. You know the rest of the story — the more-deserving Stanley Brothers had been pushed aside in favor of former CMA board member Mac Wiseman. I remember that announcement ceremony well. That one hurt.
Here’s how the election process should go: You have 2 meetings (total) for a panel of NON-SECRET electors. Transparency and accountability are key. At the first meeting, nominations are made, and a list of the top five nominees is produced AND publicized. (Up until 1993, the names of the top 5 nominees WERE made public. The CMA abandoned this practice to deflect growing criticism and moved the whole selection process behind closed doors.) At the second meeting, the electors cast secret ballots and vote their conscience(s) to determine that year’s inductee.
Right now, the secret committee seems to be including one unnecessary step in this process — a 3rd meeting where the electors discuss amongst themselves who their favorites are; who’s been lobbying the hardest/longest; who is the least controversial (most politically correct) candidate; and who is the most financially sound candidate — yes, HOF inductees are used to help market the CMA and its many activities. In other words, right now, inductees are decided as the result of a discussion and not so much by an open vote. It’s a discussion controlled by a small group of CMA insiders, rendering the words “most deserving” null and void.
“Saving Country Music” — Hopefully, your terrific article and others like it will resonate as a wake-up call to the CMA and help steer their myopic HOF election process back on the right track. It needs to be a more impartial, more transparent process and one with more rigid induction criteria. Making the CMA more accountable to the general public will only make them more responsible in their duty to elect the most deserving individuals and groups. Thank you.
March 18, 2019 @ 7:53 pm
Thanks for the deep dive Red and Wesley.
I agree, the ability for people to lobby a committee whose membership is kept secret adds a layer of suspicion to the process. This is the only way someone like Ray Stevens is able to get in before others.
March 18, 2019 @ 8:14 pm
Thank you !! This comment is most well needed. As a fan, I realized there had to be more behind the scenes than the flowerily descriptions giving on the CMA Website.
The 2011 Inductions of the “tie” between Jimmy Dean and Ferlin Husky, always made me think there was more to this than just “election”. Both of those legends were about to leave this world and the CMA knew that.
Also, I have heard that Ernest Tubb made the comment in 1979, that if Hank Snow wasn’t elected that year he would voluntarily resend his own membership. I don’t know if ET would have done that, but Snow was elected in 1979.
Thank you for this information
March 19, 2019 @ 4:36 pm
Fascinating.
It’s like Harold Baines just got elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame by the Veterans’ Committee.
He was a good, but never a great player. Steve Garvey, Al Oliver, Vada Pinson, Dale Murphy, Dave Parker and Joe Torre (as a player) all had more distinguished careers–batting titles, MVP awards, etc.–but were not inducted. But Tony LaRussa and Jerry Reinsdorf are on the Committee and they pushed for Baines.
May 6, 2019 @ 7:49 pm
Red and Wesley: There’s the POPULAR VOTE,on the Country Music Hall of Fame. This is where the Electors decide who is more Popular.
LulluBelle and Scotty,use to get Voted into a Tie-Down. Now they aren’t even on the List. One thing is, the Board of Electors, probably never heard of them.
Taylor Swift will be in there before many who have “paved the way”.
March 18, 2019 @ 7:36 pm
My 2 cents, I like Ray Stevens, but he doesn’t deserve to be in the Hall of Fame. There are a ton people more qualified, at least 10 mentioned reading through the dialogue. I would in know certain way could ever say Gram Parson’s should be in the Country Music Hall of Fame, that would be a bigger joke than Ray Stevens. I have friends who are related to Gram Parson’s, his mother was from Winter Haven, Florida and they really don’t like to acknowledge him as family.
March 18, 2019 @ 7:47 pm
It’s politics and PR dear readers.
That’s all. It’s a grown up world and fans need to accept that.
In a perfect world there would be a period of expanded inductees so Dwight, Hank, Crystal, etc could all receive honors.
And I have to raise my flag for Nitty Gritty Dirt Band who better get in ahead of Gram Parsons
March 18, 2019 @ 8:39 pm
Ray Steven’s has more talent than both those blowhards combined. He is a real musician that the Nashville community respects. The two guys you mentioned are self serving “stars”.
March 19, 2019 @ 4:39 pm
Fascinating.
It’s like Harold Baines just got elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame by the Veterans’ Committee.
He was a good, but never a great player. Steve Garvey, Al Oliver, Vada Pinson, Dale Murphy, Dave Parker and Joe Torre (as a player) all had more distinguished careers–batting titles, MVP awards, etc.–but were not inducted. But Tony LaRussa and Jerry Reinsdorf are on the Committee and they pushed for Baines.
March 19, 2019 @ 4:42 pm
“Stars” are what a Hall of Fame is all about!
Ray may be a “real musician,” but his playing had little to do with his biggest successes.
March 19, 2019 @ 8:32 pm
I was merely pointing out a fact. I couldn’t care less who is in the Hall of Fame.
March 19, 2019 @ 9:34 pm
Yet you post comments on a discussion that’s specifically about who should be in the H-o-F.
March 18, 2019 @ 9:50 pm
Hey Trigger,
If it’s possible, could you (one of these days… maybe in October when the induction is done) make a post on the Hall of Fame process before 2010? I’ve never really seen any clear cut rules for the pre-2010 inductees and I’d be very interested to see how much they’ve changed over the years.
March 18, 2019 @ 10:43 pm
That might take some digging to find the actual rules. Just finding the current rules was difficult enough, and the CMA purposely keeps them unpublished. That’s why when I got a hold of them, I decided to publish them publicly. But it could make a good study on how previous eras were handled, and if they worked better than the current rules regime.
March 19, 2019 @ 5:22 am
I own 6 ray Stevens albums on vinyl, and an additional 3 on CD. Hank jr., 1 vinyl, 1 CD. JLL, 2 vinyl. Maybe the people in charge took my advice, L O L.
March 19, 2019 @ 7:32 am
Nothing surprises me anymore, I’ve just seen where Blake Shelton is advertising he is joining George Strait and Cody Johnson for a big show. Guess he is coming out of Hollywood to show these two how its done. Like they need him! Maybe he wanting to be put in the Hall of Fame next
March 19, 2019 @ 7:54 am
Maybe he just wants to play some shows. Whats wrong with that?
March 19, 2019 @ 9:42 am
Blake has opened for George a lot over the years – a big summer tour back in 2008 and they did some stadium shows last year, too.
March 19, 2019 @ 9:57 am
Not going to reply to any specific comment, but I will just say that Jerry Lee Lewis is awesome!
March 19, 2019 @ 11:47 am
The continued failure to induct The Stanley Brothers is hard for me to understand.
There’s a huge pile of artists who should get in from the veterans era, I’m beginning to think two a year wouldn’t be a bad idea.
I’d kind of like them to put Gram Parsons in if only for how much it would annoy some people, but realistically we’ve probably got a better chance with the Rock and Roll Hall (and let’s get Clarence White in too).
March 19, 2019 @ 6:55 pm
I agree Ray is one the best but a strange choice. I’m surprised that I’m the only one that thinks it is too soon for Brooks and Dunn…yes they dominated the 90’s…but what were they doing when Marty Stuart was playing mandolin for Lester when he was a teenager?
March 20, 2019 @ 2:02 am
Anybody on earth but bra!d paisley,hate that little-known snauser with his cheap stace maybe his boyfriend manning. Oh ya all just keep each other awards
March 20, 2019 @ 10:53 am
In a nutshell Hank Jr, was out playing shows way back when with ernest tub patsy cline etc,,,,, today in 2019 he can go out and still fill arenas as a headliner hes charted hit songs in 6 different decades few man match his longevity being successful and those who can are already inducted….. check out hanks stats compared to ray stevens what a complete joke
March 25, 2019 @ 11:05 am
Ray Stevens election is the biggest joke in the history of the Hall of Fame. The guy had all of THREE (count ’em) top ten country songs!!! People forget that he may have been Nashville located but he was not a part of the country music industry until the mid 1970’s and his most famous record “Everything is Beautiful” was not a country hit. He’s somewhat more famous than a lot of major country stars because of his pop career and connections but that does not make him worthy of being considered for HOF induction. Maybe some people like his brand of comedy music but hell Ben Colder, Cousin Jody, and pretty much any member of Hee Haw made vastly more important contributions to country comedy than Stevens (and his feud with Webb Pierce over Webb’s guitar swimming pool being a tourist attraction gives him extra points on my shit list.)
Wanda Jackson is 80 years old and LOVED by the rock n roll industry which the country clique wants so badly to be a part of – so why won’t they elect her on that basis even if they ignore her sterling 20+ years as a major country female vocalist. And of course Stonewall Jackson and every other icon from the past who deserves this honor will never get it either.
Lynn Anderson knocked herself out serving on CMA boards for years and they don’t even have the courtesy to take this into consideration even if they choose to ignore her nearly 50 major hits on the country chart.
Jerry Lee Lewis’ private history is not the reason the HOF is ignoring him, there are plenty of drunks and notorious jerks in the hall of fame and at least one legend who served time for statutory rape before his career started and that didn’t get in the way. Jerry Lee’s being ignored because he’s simply too old for the current HOF people to care about. To paraphrase his famous words about England, “the Hall of Fame can kiss my ass.”
May 6, 2019 @ 7:33 pm
Tom R, The People on the Board of Electors,don’t know who Comedians like Archie Campbell are. He’s long forgotten. He was Even the famous Juner Carter Cash, was a Comedian,and besides that, why aren’t June,Anita,and Helen, in the Hall of Fame as a Group ? What about “Goober” George Lindsey ? He was doing Country Comedy before Hee Haw,on the Andy Griffith Show. Goober and June Carter Cash,attended College,together for Comedy.
Far as Rose Maddox, there was Molly O’Day that was making hits back in the 1940s,50s,too. Mac Wiseman was in Molly’s group the Cumberland Folks.
The Bailes Brothers,Opry Stars of the 1940s-50s, and Louisiana Hayride, recieved more Fan Mail on the Opry,than any other Star,selling Millions of their SongBooks. Shot Jackson,famous Steel Guitarist/Dobro, got his start in ther Band. Ramona Jones,wife of Grandpa Jones,was playing the Opry,before Grandpa was.
Johnnie & Jack, were playing the Opry in 1940 til Jacks death in 1963 on the way to Patsy Cline’s Funeral. Johnnie Wright continued to perform with his wife of 74 years-Kitty Wells,til his Death.
Mickey Gilley, had so many Billboard Hits, and ACM Awards. Mickey even had a Movie-Urban Cowboy,made at his Nightclub with him in it. Mickey still performs and is Jerry Lee’s Double Cousin.
These folks are all forgotten by the Hall of Fame. The people running the Show,don’t even know who they are.
May 6, 2019 @ 7:36 pm
I did a Typo,write before June Carter Cash. Meant-Archie Campbell as doing Comedy,decades before the Hee Haw series.
March 26, 2019 @ 10:42 pm
This is all soooo worthless. ANY grown man who rapes a little girl should not receive ANY award EVER. And all you Hank Jr. worshippers are insane. That idiots done more to embarrass country music than most. Get a grip. Ray Stevens is creative, has contributed greatly and for anyone to disparage this choice shows their complete ignorance. Go Ray. Congratulations. You deserve it. (Everything is Beautiful).
May 6, 2019 @ 8:12 pm
Wilma Lee & Stoney Cooper,long overlooked. Their Daughter-Carol Lee Cooper,long overlooked,too, was the lead of the Carol Lee Singers,Opry Backup Vocal Group, for 4 Decades. Probaly sang with more different Entetainers than anyone in the World. Carol Lee,also hosted the WSM Live Radio Show-Midnite Jamboree for over a Decade. She also performed with her Parents for 2 Decades(1957-1979), and sang on Recordings-Conway Twitty,etc..
May 13, 2019 @ 10:47 am
Trigger,
Hank, Jr. has told people that he doesn’t care if he gets in the Hall of Fame or not and that if he does get elected, he will not show up for the induction announcement, so that’s why he wasn’t considered as a finalist for induction into the Hall of Fame this year.
As I’ve said it before, the finalists for the Hall of Fame this year were supposedly:
Veterans Era: Crystal Gayle, Mickey Gilley, The Osborne Brothers, Linda Ronstadt, The Stanley Brothers, Ray Stevens and The Wilburn Brothers.
Modern Era: Brooks & Dunn, Larry Gatlin & The Gatlin Brothers, The Judds, Marty Stuart, Tanya Tucker, Steve Wariner and Keith Whitley.
What do you think?.
May 13, 2019 @ 11:20 am
Hey Richie,
I’ve seen the chatter from Byron Fay and others, and I may address this matter very soon.
November 19, 2019 @ 5:03 pm
The average age of a ‘marriageable’ female in European based cultures prior to World War 1 – 14 years old. That is the average, not the minimum. It was hardly uncommon in the USA in the first half of the 20th century. The average age difference between the male and the female in marriages in European based cultures prior to world war 1 – 10 years plus to double the age for the male, often a larger age difference if the male had more money and was buying his bride.
What is somewhat ironically funny is that those demonizing Jerry Lee have pretty much a 99.9% chance of being alive as a result of the same type of marriage within the past 150 years in their direct forebears. Maybe they should go to the tombstones of their forebears and throw stones at them, as ‘rapists’ 😉
August 28, 2020 @ 2:26 pm
I believe Hank Jr. is not going to be inducted because someone asked how he feels about the worst president the country ever had, Obama. He was fired by ESPN for his reply. After several years ESPN brought him back because their ratings were terrible! Hank only told them the truth. Obama was going to take the USA in a new direction, into socialism! That’s how Hitler preached!
As for Jerry Lee Lewis. My grandfather married my grandmother when she was fourteen. My grandfather was twenty three! That’s the way it was in the South.
If i’m not mistaking Loretta Lynn was married at fourteen?
August 28, 2020 @ 2:31 pm
Hank Jr. has been inducted.
https://savingcountrymusic.com/finally-hank-williams-jr-announced-for-the-country-music-hall-of-fame/
February 24, 2022 @ 5:14 am
If we’re commenting on his personal life, I’m much more concerned about JLL possibly killing two of his wives and shooting a guy than marrying his 13 y/o cousin. Look it up. The man is a loon. Talent wise, however, he’s incredible. Not sure he belongs in the HOF since country was his last resort after being shunned in rock n roll (funny since he wasn’t *that far* out of line compared to the norm…Little Richard had a 16 y/o girlfriend at 24, Elvis met and started courting Priscilla at 14, Ringo Starr met his wife Maureen when she was 15-16 and he was 22, Brian Wilson met his wife when she was 14 and he was 20…but marrying someone in 7th grade who was also a cousin was a bit much those even for those days.)
FYI, Priscilla didn’t move to Graceland til she was 17. She was living with her family in Germany.
January 10, 2023 @ 3:04 pm
Was it ok to marry your sister back then? It was a different culture and time?