Dave Mustaine of Megadeth Just Inadvertently Exposed a Big Problem with Today’s Country
Megadeth’s frontman Dave Mustaine has been strangely lurking around the country music realm in the last few years, popping up in unusual places like his appearance at the George Jones memorial in 2013, or releasing his “bluegrass” song “The Blackest Crow” a while back. His daughter is even making dalliances with the mainstream, recently releases a frappy, senseless summer tune called “Life Is Good” that didn’t seem to go much of anywhere.
Now in a recent interview with Q104.3, Mustaine inadvertently exposed one of the big problems plaguing today’s mainstream country. A common criticism heard bandied about is that the country music of today is no more than regurgitated arena rock. Part of the reason for this is many of the guitar players that are performing in arenas every night behind folks like Jason Aldean and Luke Bryan didn’t grow up studying Don Rich and Ralph Mooney, they grew up studying Dave Mustaine, Ritchie Sambora, and Slash—all good guitar players mind you, but not in tune with the twang that makes country music unique.
“Metal guys, they’re pretty advanced with their playing. And when you watch country players, a lot of times they’re metal players that couldn’t get a gig so they settled for country,” Mustaine says. “Every single [country] band that I’ve met, any of the guitar players are like, ‘Oh man, I’m a huge fan of yours!’ It’s like, ‘What?’ Some of the performers too, they’re big fans, they love metal music.”
And you can see this when you look at the backline of pretty much any arena-level country band. The guitarist is rockin’ a spandex t-shirt and green mohawk. And as Musatine points out, they’re probably an excellent player when it comes to their technical prowess. But unlike the arena rock era when the guitarists for bands were big stars themselves, the country guys are these kind of nameless mercenaries who probably would prefer playing metal, but put up with bad pop country party songs for the big paycheck.
And it doesn’t just stop with the guitar players. “The guy who produced couple of our biggest records [1997’s ‘Cryptic Writings’ and 1999’s ‘Risk’] – Dann Huff – just won Producer of the Year this year for the CMTs,” Mustaine said in the interview. Mustaine is likely referring to Dann Huff’s win for Musician of the Year at the CMA’s in November. CMT doesn’t give out a Producer of the Year award. Nonetheless, it’s a good illustration of how the evaporation of the modern commercial rock format has caused a flood of rock personalities to infiltrate country, and ultimately influence the music in a more commercial rock direction. Nickelback’s former producer Joey Moi working with Florida Georgia Line is another good example.
This wouldn’t be all bad if the music was any good. But what you end up with is this country/rock/hip-hop hybrid most of the time that has little to no lasting core appeal because it isn’t tied to the roots of country. Instead it’s rock riffs with country window dressing to ingratiate itself to the country radio format.
Dave Mustaine isn’t throwing modern country under the bus though. “I like their music,” he says. “It’s not the music I would want to have with me on a desert island because I’m a metal guy, but I totally appreciate and respect the music.”
Matty T
January 4, 2017 @ 8:44 am
Interesting take on it. I’ve long said the same thing – look at Eric Church, Luke bryan, aldean – their bands look like they spent a lot of time on the Sunset Strip in the ’80s.
Marky Mark
January 6, 2017 @ 8:33 am
Eric Church’s guitar player was the original lead guitarist for the black crowes.
CCRR
January 7, 2017 @ 11:06 am
Yep – Jeff Cease, I believe? But he also has guitarist Driver Williams, who actually DOES come from a Metal background.
I think Rock music’s influence on country is pretty obvious. Eric Church has basically been saying these things for awhile now…about rock fans moving towards modern country…I guess if you want your traditional country back, you’d hate that kind of thing….just makes me shrug.
Jim
January 4, 2017 @ 9:05 am
I saw Tyler Farr do “A Guy Walks Into A Bar” on YouTube awhile back and his lead guitarist had, I kid you not, a foot tall pink mohawk and was wearing leather and chains. And yeah, the guy played a pretty good guitar solo. But it was not a country sounding guitar solo, and I watched the whole song thinking, “What is that guy even doing there?”
Brandon F
January 6, 2017 @ 8:42 am
I had a season pass to a local venue in 2015 and Tyler Farr was on the lineup unfortunately. As soon as I read the headline his guitar player popped in my mind.
Joel
January 14, 2017 @ 8:31 pm
Probably got kicked out of Metal due to the Pink Mohawk.
Ron
January 4, 2017 @ 9:08 am
I’ve also said the same thing. A lot of today’s big name (mostly male) country is just bad arena rock with an occasional drowned out fiddle to make it seem country. The guitarists in these bands frequently strike a pose and play as if they are Jimmy Page or some other rock guitarist.
The whole disappearance of the 70’s-90’s rock business and the subsequent takeover in country is probably a good book for someone to write once the story plays out to whatever is the final conclusion.
MH
January 4, 2017 @ 9:09 am
Metal guitar is easy to play – it’s just power chords and picking hand speed and ease/finesse.
It takes a special kind of picker to play bluegrass/Western Swing/authentic country.
Aaron
January 4, 2017 @ 9:26 am
Please watch this and tell me if you think metal is easy to play:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyKe1ELpS84
Hard Rock guitar is one thing. Very few people understand how insanely complex real metal is. You know that black metal band you’ve never heard, opening for five other bands you never heard of, playing in an empty bar for six friends at 6:30 on a Tuesday night? They all went to music school and can play anything they hear note for note.
I do agree with you though that country style guitar is a little different in that it requires a feel which few of those dudes have.
Jacob Ware
January 4, 2017 @ 9:46 am
Metal is the most technically complex genre of guitar music I can think of, lead wise anyway, the riffs are quite often the simplest. But there is less nuance than technical knowledge. Sweeping, dive bombs, pinched harmonics, but that’s really as far as it goes, staying in the scales but at lightning speed is a talent, but I wouldn’t put it up against brent mason or Jerry reed. Metal usually fills every measure with a note, the greats knew what not to play. Not taking anything away from metal, it is a valid and very complex music form.
Jack Williams
January 4, 2017 @ 9:32 am
That you, Unknown? 😉
Kevin Smith
January 4, 2017 @ 10:40 am
As a closet picker myself initially schooled in metal but these days a major country guitar fan geek, I agree with both viewpoints. The Randy Rhoads, Yngwie Malmsteen, Satriani, Hamett schools of playing are musically mindblowing.Very advanced and very legit.
But check out Joe Maphis and Merle Travis. Your jaw will drop when you see and hear what those cats were doing when Hendrix was just a squirt. Then of course Chet Atkins and Jerry Reed. Don Rich too.And while your looking up Maphis, check out Larry Collins!!! He and Joe Maphis were virtuosoing out on Double neck Mosrites in the 50 ‘s. And no country guitar discussion should exclude Jimmy Bryant and Speedy West. Their playing will rock your world.
Today we have Deke Dickerson, Guy van Duser, joel Patterson, Crazy Joe, John jorgenson, Kenny Vaughn and others making their mark utilizing those styles. 2 up and comers to check out also are Julian Davis and Kyle Eldridge.
Back on topic, it’s become a joke what passes for country guitar today. What happened to the telecaster with the switch set to the neck pickup , plugged into a twin reverb and cranked to 11?
Kevin Smith
January 4, 2017 @ 11:49 am
Oops…typo , I meant bridge pickup for that twangy sound Tele’s were meant to play.
Jacob Ware
January 4, 2017 @ 12:34 pm
I was wondering about that, i know i hardly never even use neck. Didnt want to correct you and be a dick. I like compression and phaser on my tele. Voxac15c1. I like my jesus playing lead on leather bound telecaster with aviators and a cigarette in his mouth.
Kevin Smith
January 4, 2017 @ 12:52 pm
Alright Waylon!!
Kevin Broughton
January 5, 2017 @ 9:12 am
I’d put Robbie Fulks in the same league as Merle Travis. I think he and Isbell and Buddy Miller are the 3 best players in country music.
Kevin Smith
January 5, 2017 @ 10:04 am
Hmm….saw Robbie this past year doing his new bluegrass thing….he is a decent flatpicker. And I’m trying to remember if he used a thumbpick like Merle…Merle of course had that rolling fingerstyle with bass notes played by the thumb that is now called Travis picking. I have seen Buddy also, he’s good, more of a rock style IMO. Never seen Isbell, thought he was a singer songwriter, didn’t know he had guitar chops.
My list mentioned some eclectic names, and it illustrates my point that within country guitar styles there is virtuosity to be found perhaps equal to the complexity of metal, maybe greater. There are tons of modern players but few are doing the Maphis, Travis, Atkins thing save for a handful. Quite a few play in the Don Rich style with John Jorgenson being one of the more impressive. Check out his playing with The Hellecasters and also Desert Rose band.
Then there’s Brian Hofeldt of Derailers, Sturgills guitarist, Marty Stuart, Pete Anderson formerly with Dwight. I favor rockabilly myself thus the mention of Deke Dickerson, Crazy Joe and Kyle Eldridge. Yeah country guitar may be dead in mainstream but it’s alive and well in our enlightened universe.
HawkbitAlpha
January 8, 2017 @ 9:58 am
Even Sturgill Simpson is pretty good with guitar. Just look at his “live in a barn” clips with his old band Sunday Valley.
Borislav
January 4, 2017 @ 8:41 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X69rIzFQDY
Rod Johnson
January 5, 2017 @ 7:57 pm
Appently you don’t know much of dick about metal guitar playing. Hair band shit for the most part is simplistic, many other forms of metal are very difficult and technical. I argue with metal people about the technical ability it takes to play bluegrass or western swing. My roots are in bluegrass and traditional country and you can hear the influence when I play metal solos. When I play country it sounds like country because those are my roots. The guys Dave were talking about sound the way they do because of there roots. It is clearly not country, it is cheese dick hair band music.
Lance
January 5, 2017 @ 9:27 pm
Oh brother….Village is missing its idiot.
MArnold
January 4, 2017 @ 9:09 am
And if they can’t get a gig in country they go Contempory Christian.
Joel
January 14, 2017 @ 8:36 pm
And that Nickleback producer had to pull that FGL guy back from Contemporary Christian music… What a shame.. I do love me afew of the Christian Rock band, but most aren’t worth it.
Check out this guy though, he was in afew Christian Screamo bands in the late 90’s/early 2000’s and does country now. pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJVvtTGMKMI
Anne
April 7, 2021 @ 12:18 pm
I’m just seeing this a few years later but the video is gone. I’m intrigued! Do you remember who it was?
Leon Blair
January 4, 2017 @ 9:13 am
This makes too much sense….As someone who’s been dragged to some of these concerts, it’s easy to tell what some of these guys would rather be doing, you just couldn’t confirm it until now, haha.
Jacob Ware
January 4, 2017 @ 9:28 am
I can think of one metal guy that has an unabashed love of country music: Cody Jinks. It’s not necessarily a bad thing, the dark and gothic country is pretty cool. Distant memory lane by fifth on the floor. But a hired guns they bring too much glam rock to mainstream music. The metal influence has to be peppered in, not stamped across the face of country music.
I finally signed up for a twitter account after reading your article about unlicensed mercy, first thing I saw after following my favorites on the feed was this interview with Brantley Gilbert lackey, Cody Wolfe. http://amnplify.com.au/cpt_interviews/q-a-with-cody-wolfe/?utm_campaign=crowdfire&utm_content=crowdfire&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
This guy should NOT be doing his own publicity.
Trigger
January 4, 2017 @ 9:46 am
This is not about the fact that some metalheads have eventually settled in country after going back to their roots, like Cody Jinks, Hank3, and dozens of others who take country music seriously and approach it with reverence and an attempt to master the discipline. This is about metalheads who are metalheads, playing bad arena metal that sounds like bad arena metal, and happen to be staring at the back of a mainstream pop “country” artist every night. I think folks can be fans of both country and metal, and certain proficient players can play both country and metal if that’s what they desire. Most of the mainstream “country” players though desire to be in metal bands, and resort to touring in country because of the paycheck.
Bradley Olson
January 4, 2017 @ 7:06 pm
In fact, Jason Aldean and Carrie Underwood have both covered Guns n’ Roses’ Paradise City in concert.
Coop
January 4, 2017 @ 10:07 pm
Don’t forget our brother to the north, Corb Lund in your ex-metalheads.
Crsync
January 5, 2017 @ 6:06 pm
So… this thread is all about live or you including records and session players? The condition you describe occurs in both arenas but there’s some disctinction between the two. Not trying to split hairs here but road bands have traditionally been younger, hungrier & rockier than studio dudes.
Trigger
January 5, 2017 @ 7:56 pm
I think this also affects the studio players. They may not be the same folks, but the arena rock riffs are definitely making it onto the studio cuts too.
WestTexasRain
January 6, 2017 @ 12:19 pm
Dumbass was influenced by Justin Bieber smh why do country then.
BEH
January 4, 2017 @ 9:28 am
Someone should tell Dave that they are just being polite.
Randy
January 4, 2017 @ 9:52 am
It’s an interesting observation. Just to add to the legitimacy of it, take note that one of Brantley Gilbert’s guitarist, Noah Henson (complete with long dreads), is also lead guitar player for the Christian metal band Pillar. I think one of the things that makes country music unique is that Telecaster Twang in the vein of previous greats like Roy Nichols. It’s one of the reasons I love JP Harris so much, his music is really filled with that sound, and is some true, unabashed honky-tonk.
Hawkeye
January 7, 2017 @ 6:51 am
Wait, Brantley Gilberts guitarist plays for Pillar!? Wow
gtrman86
January 4, 2017 @ 9:54 am
He makes a good point but…….. There are a lot of great Country pickers out there but modern country is basically shitty rock so a super hot chicken pickin’ guitarslinger serves no purpose in modern country. A lot of the rock guitarists don’t get real Country and certainly can’t play it to save their lives but all this new country is just power chords and very very weak lead breaks so even the least experienced rock guy can fake his way through it. While metal & rock can definitely push the boundaries of speed, skill and precision I would wager that a vast majority couldn’t swap their distortion for a compressor and Chicken pick with Volkaert, Mason, Albert Lee, Hiland, Marty Stuart and many many others. Metal certainly doesn’t have the feel and soul of good authentic county guitar playing so although the metal guys can play at warp speed, they would be missing the heart and soul of what they are playing.
Mark
January 5, 2017 @ 7:22 am
chiken pickin has gotten just as boring, and cliched as bad metal.
Close your eyes, every one of the modern chicken pickers sounds the exactlyy same. yawnsville. technical, speedy, and unmusical.
There’s a good video on youtube of a guitar player (might have been Merle Haggard), for fun, imitating the different lead players for some of the country greats of the sixties…. each guy he imitated sounded completely different from all the others.
That’s gone now.
As far as metal guitar into country goes, I blame Mutt Lange. Def leppard/Shania…. same riffs. That’s who started it.
Mark
January 5, 2017 @ 7:25 am
and electric slide guitar can have a place, in country, as proven by Leroy Parnell.
Mark D.
January 5, 2017 @ 8:30 am
Excellent point…everybody trying to do their best Brent Mason…a lot of it does sound exactly the same.
Marky Mark
January 6, 2017 @ 11:10 am
I have been saying for years that shania’s any man of mine is just the country version of pour some sugar on me. Obviously Mutt played a big roll in hysteria on the writing and creative side. He just took those tricks and applied them to shania in the country arena. So, yeah, good point, he clearly played a role in triggering all this.
Markus McMarksley
January 7, 2017 @ 8:11 am
Hmm yes, brilliant point, I thoroughly agree on all points
Clint
January 4, 2017 @ 10:02 am
Wasnt Kevin Fowler in Dangerous Toys or is my memory off??
WestTexasRain
January 4, 2017 @ 10:17 am
Yes he was the lead guitarist from what I heard.
WestTexasRain
January 4, 2017 @ 10:18 am
Yes he was the lead guitarist.
Clint
January 4, 2017 @ 10:22 am
Thought so. I am probably guilty of everything in this article. You can find me at Guns N Roses and Eric Church the same week
WestTexasRain
January 4, 2017 @ 10:15 am
Mainstream Country Music: You’ll hear everything but country music. Anyways what Dave said has been said before.
D. Wayne
January 4, 2017 @ 10:48 am
I went in to this article with a healthy dose of skepticism. After reading this article I am in agreement. I grew up on country music in my house in the 60’s and 70’s. I have no idea what this pop country genre is today but it is not country. I, like many, have found myself listening to Americana when looking for authentic music. It’s also nice to have Willie’s Roadhouse because today’s commercial country radio is unlistenable.
Kris
January 4, 2017 @ 11:08 am
I play occasionally on broadway, and when artists come through looking for players, their criteria looks like this: 1) how cool do they look onstage? 2) how cool are they to hang out with? 3) how good are they?
I don’t blame the artists, since it seems like casual listeners and concert goers follow the same pattern, and since most are 25-40 yr old women (country’s target demographic), it trickles down to hard rocking players end up being sought after over guys who can play Jerry Reed or Brent Mason
Kevin Smith
January 4, 2017 @ 11:55 am
And if the industry gets its way, we can eliminate those pesky guitars altogether and instead have a mask wearing DJ “playing” a Mac book Pro and a drum machine. Essentially a one man band as it were, while Luke , Aldean, Hunt, Bryan , whoever, Twerk and do full lip sync with some choreographed stage dancers.
Corncaster
January 5, 2017 @ 11:59 am
great post, kris
which leads to all kinds of questions: why do women 25-40 like the sonic power of Arena Rock with their country? what happens twenty years from now when our 10 year olds get nostalgic — will they want the sonic power of gangsta Rap with their country? or some current version of metal or math rock?
we may be in for the long haul
MArnold
January 4, 2017 @ 11:24 am
Drummers, too. Look at Aldeans drummer, Rich Redmon. https://youtu.be/ptSsZUlvilw
Lone Wolf
January 5, 2017 @ 10:17 pm
@MArnold: I’ve seen Jason Aldean twice in 2014 and 2015. At the 2015 show I was about 4 rows back and I completely agree with you. His band, as a whole, is heavier live. They pack a punch, no doubt.
seak05
January 4, 2017 @ 11:38 am
I don’t actually disagree with the main point, I do think the death of commercial rock has moved people into country music. Although country and rock have always had a relationship. BUT
I mean I’ll fairly vigorously protest the linking of a “look” and a type of music. You can want to have a mohawk, die your hair blue, and love country music.
Also, I think this also speaks to a different reality we sometimes don’t want to face. Just as many of us on this forum like and listen to different types of music, so do most country musicians. And because they’re musicians and they like a variety of music, they’re going to want to experiment with it. A number of people don’t like playing the same type over and over. I think Sturgil this year is a good example of this in a good music way, and ZBB’s EDM fling is an example in a bad way. But in both cases its musicians who like other types of music and don’t want to only be doing one type.
And I agree that it would be less problematic if most of it wasn’t bad/watered down versions of other genre’s.
hello
January 4, 2017 @ 11:45 am
One thing to remember way back in the 90’s with Garth Brooks, Travis Tritt and even Chris Ledoux, there was a ton of arena rock and metal influences in country music. Tis isn’t anything new
Ron
January 4, 2017 @ 1:17 pm
Agreed. The roots of how today’s country evolved runs through Garth and his arena shows.
Lone Wolf
January 5, 2017 @ 10:26 pm
@hello: In Gene Simmons’ book, ‘Kiss and Make-Up’, he explains how Garth Brooks agreed to perform ‘Hard Luck Woman’ (excellent version, too) in Kiss’ ‘Kiss My Ass’ tribute CD and told them how big of an influence Kiss was on him (along with Queen and Kansas). It wasn’t until he invited Paul Stanley and Gene to one of his shows that Gene understood how and why. “It was country Kiss.” he said. Your post is 100% agreeable based on how GB’s live shows. Seeing that Jason Aldean was my first country show back in 2014, I can’t confirm what kind of live shows other country artists put on prior to or after GB. Nice post!!
seak05
January 4, 2017 @ 12:06 pm
Also (and I really don’t know) how much are these guitar players actually deciding what to play & how it sounds? Most of them don’t really have a hand in the album or song creation, they’re just playing in the live shows.
Jacob Ware
January 4, 2017 @ 2:14 pm
^ You maybe right, between Nashville producer (which are also getting younger) and session musicians you may just be getting the trendiest sounds a studio can buy.
But then you look at laur joamets, sure sturgill is the “BANDLEADER”, and by his own accounts, sounds like a musical dictator. But after spending most of his playing on metal laur brought something special to country music. There is no way Sturgill can tell him exactly what to play (and he produced his own album), because he is not a strong enough guitar player to dictate to laur, but he does guide him in the ways of.country and bluegrass. His bends are so perfect you would think they have pedal steel on all their songs that they only bustout for a handful of notes. These other guys aren’t bringing this to the party, they are playing the phrases from wheel in the sky over and over again.
So now it’s hired guns in the studio and live.
Trainwreck92
January 4, 2017 @ 4:24 pm
I would have to disagree that Sturgill isn’t a strong enough player to dictate to Laur. His style of playing is just entirely different. His guitar work in Sunday Valley is (in my ever so humble opinion) simply phenomenal. That super fast bluegrass-style picking played on an overdriven Telecaster is something that I haven’t heard from anybody else. I’m not so naive as to believe that Sturgill is the most technically gifted country guitarist in the business, but I think he has a unique style that puts him above a ton guitarists, even Laur, as great of player as he is.
Jacob Ware
January 4, 2017 @ 5:04 pm
From here on out its difference of opinion, I like his lead/rhythm work on Sunday valley, I watched those videos over and over to steal his style. The rhythm is almost entirely boogie shuffle or blues shuffle, not every song, he will mix in the bluegrass run (G/C walk up), he uses a capo a lot so he can move that shuffle around to different keys. His lead playing, well it fits the style of music he is playing and that comes first, but it is not incredibly advanced. I would equate his playing to Kurt Cobain, a better guitarist than credit is given, but he lives in the basics. Now acoustic he is pretty good, perfect arpeggios, perfect blending with those bluegrass fills. And he brought something a little unique to country music with it ain’t all flowers and a fee other songs.
But come on little jo is a real guitar slinger, perfect timing, pedal steel bends, he also plays hybrid slide which is pretty difficult. Not only that but the short duration he adapted to sturgills style and country music in general is phenomenal. Not trying to talk down about sturgill, but I like joamets guitar better.
Trainwreck92
January 4, 2017 @ 6:26 pm
You know, the Cobain comparison is actally pretty apt. I’ll concede that Laur may be a better guitarist , but Sturgill’s playing just appeals to me more. I tend to gravitate towards players that have a distinctive style, whether or not they’re technically proficient.
Brandon F
January 6, 2017 @ 8:55 am
Laur himself has said that Sturgill has taught him a lot of things on guitar and made him better.
albert
January 4, 2017 @ 2:25 pm
”This wouldn’t be all bad if the music was any good. But what you end up with is this country/rock/hip-hop hybrid most of the time that has little to no lasting core appeal because it isn’t tied to the roots of country. Instead it’s rock riffs with country window dressing to ingratiate itself to the country radio format.”
BINGO Trigger .
Its no mystery that mainstream’ country ‘ sounds the way it does . It’s rock and r and b derived and draws so very very little from the roots and traditions of country that its laughable even calling it ‘ country ‘ . It isn’t honest , fresh , musically interesting or even clever lyrically and the best vocalists have been sidelined by ” expiry dates ” . Who delivers a country song better than a Mark Chesnutt or an Alan Jackson ? And where are these guys ? exactly ….out to pasture ‘ cuz “” we don’t need no steenken country singers ‘ round here ” . Its fucking ridiculous and the quality, radio-wise, disintegrates almost daily .Even the DJ’s have no sense of the roots and traditions and the legends ….they think of Brad Paisley as ‘ old school ‘ ..
Scott S.
January 4, 2017 @ 4:42 pm
Many kids gravitate to rock and metal in their teen years only to come back to country later. I saw many metal bands in concert in my teens and twenties, including Megadeth.
WRS
January 4, 2017 @ 5:01 pm
This is part of the reason the music sucks. If you have somebody that loves metal and is a metal guitarist but plays in a country band for a paycheck the music is always going to suffer. There will be no passion, no feeling, and their playing will almost always be influenced by the music that they really love. And that will be metal in this case. This is different from somebody that loves metal but always loved country and finally gets into country. If there is a true passion for what they are playing that’s when the music is great. I never want to listen to somebody playing for a paycheck
Corncaster
January 4, 2017 @ 5:07 pm
*shrugs*
it could be worse, at least they’re playing guitars
monogenre’s bigger problem is idiotic lyrics: the rock vibe is brought in to make songs with dumbass lyrics sound “epic”
everything borrowed, nothing earned
albert
January 5, 2017 @ 2:53 pm
”……monogenre’s bigger problem is idiotic lyrics: the rock vibe is brought in to make songs with dumbass lyrics sound “epic”.
Exactly , Corncaster . The musical vibe of many songs doesn’t correlate or support the lyric vibe . That’s a production issue , of course , but I’m certain it isn’t one on the ” to do ” list as far as addressing the mindlessness of much radio music overall .
Corncaster
January 6, 2017 @ 1:20 pm
yeah but maybe not in the case of Keith Urban, some of whose songs I respect for their expert feel-goodness. Urban and Huff nail that happy carefree vibe, and I’m not too proud to say sometimes you just have to put yourself in “accept” mode and sing along with everybody else.
i’m also as guilty as the next guy of expecting too much from pop. i like good reads for the same reason i like certain people for conversation, and i guess i like writer-musicians in that same vein. i like pop, but songs that rise above the literal i like more.
rock along with Rockalong, the giant friendly purple dragon
January 4, 2017 @ 5:10 pm
In the opposite case: Bernie Leadon, one of the original members of the Eagles, was a country and bluegrass guitarist playing in a rock band in the early 1970s. He played country-style lead electric guitar, acoustic guitar, banjo, mandolin, pedal steel, and dobro. You could say that Bernie probably would have rather have been playing in a country or bluegrass band, instead of a rock band. Bernie was what made the Eagles “country”-rock. In fact, the early Eagles music would be considered “too country” for today’s “country” radio.
Erik North
January 4, 2017 @ 5:53 pm
It should be said that Bernie was something of a student of the Telecaster playing as personified by the late and legendary Clarence White, who himself had been a bluegrass acoustic guitar picker before taking up the electric guitar in the mid-1960s. In fact, both White and his good friend Gene Parsons (no relation to Gram Parsons, by the way) came up with the invention of making the strings of Clarence’s 1954 Telecaster bend in a way to mimic the steel guitar. I don’t think Bernie was ever uncomfortable about playing in a rock band like the Eagles (whatever hang-ups he might have had with either Don Henley or the late Glenn Frey, he eventually got over those and reunited with that band on their last tour), but he always thought of himself as more of a utility man, which he was obviously great at.
P.S.: Bernie was bought into the Eagles on the suggestion of Linda Ronstadt when they were her backing band in 1971 because she knew of his multi-instrumental abilties. Not the worst decision ever made (IMHO).
While on the subject of rock guitarists dabbling into country, how about Jimmy Page trying some hard-edged country licks on “Hot Dog”, a track from Led Zeppelin’s 1979 album IN THROUGH THE OUR DOOR?
Kevin Smith
January 5, 2017 @ 4:46 am
Rock along you just might have the best commentor name …ever!
TheCheapSeats
January 4, 2017 @ 6:17 pm
Dave Mustaine inadvertently exposed nothing. To anyone who has been paying attention, this has been going on for years. Dave may have just noticed it lately.
You can’t blame the musicians, though. Slog your way through, touring incessantly, playing crappy dive bars, building a following slowly, or ride in a nice bus, play big arenas, and collect a paycheck while still getting to play for a living. Unless you are passionate enough about your art to make ALL the sacrifices, then it’s a no brainer.
Mainstream country has been arena rock for a while. And it’s interesting that country has become more arena rock in a time in which rock in general is virtually nonexistent in America. Sure, the legacy rock acts can sell out arenas and sheds anytime they want, but where is the next wave going to come from? There are some new rock acts that I like and are really good, but theater shows is as much as they can hope to play right now. Most are on the club circuit.
I don’t know how much correlation there is between these two things, but I would be interested to know. Perhaps the key to saving country music is saving rock music? I don’t know.
Bradley Olson
January 4, 2017 @ 7:11 pm
There are radio stations that are called “Active Rock” and the bands played on that format now include Highly Suspect, Red Sun Rising, Volbeat, Alter Bridge, Chevelle, The Pretty Reckless, Lamb of God, etc.
TheCheapSeats
January 4, 2017 @ 8:01 pm
Oh, I’m quite aware of that. None of those are bands are that well known by the general populace. And quite frankly none of the bands you mention have iconic rock band in their DNA. Perhaps Alter Bridge with Myles Kennedy riding the coattails of Slash and with the Mark Tremonti Creed connection. Taylor Momsen has potential, but she still needs to find the right lane.
I digress. I know there is good rock out there, but until there is stuff that has mainstream appeal, it’s “Active Rock” radio and club/festival slogging. Not a lot of money in that, why not strike a pose behind Luke Bryan and pay your bills?
shastacatfish
January 4, 2017 @ 11:22 pm
I think “1994” is one of the worst offenders of this trend.
Trevor Curtis
January 4, 2017 @ 11:25 pm
As someone who was raised on country, and has been an unrepentant metalhead since 17, let me say without a doubt, fuck anything coming out of Dave Mustaine’s mouth. He did 5 good records while flying on coke, and hasn’t done anything but bitch since getting sober. He tried to put out Megadeth merch with an assasinated Obama on it, and has appeared on Alex Jones. All of the above would be forgivable if he’d bothered to release a CD that didn’t suck harder than a brand new Dyson in the last 15 years. If he’s bragging about his last record producer, he should hire someone that can actually get a good vocal mix.The last Megadeth and Slayer records had god awful producing, especially on vocals. If we’re going to talk to metal musicians about country, at least get ones with respect for the genre, like Al Jourgensen(who actually did a good countryish side project, Buck Satan and the 666 Shooters) and who used to regularly spin country records when he DJed. I once watched him break a bottle over the head of a guy who asked for Achy Breaky Heart. Dave’s daughter wants to be the next Taylor Swift, and has neither the willingness to play the game, or the talent, from what I’ve seen.
Mike
January 5, 2017 @ 10:33 am
Jeff Walker from Carcass actually wrote a fairly good country cover album. Granted, it was nothing but covers, but it sounded like he has a lot more respect for country music than a lot of these jagoffs in Nashville today.
Trevor Curtis
January 5, 2017 @ 3:59 pm
I also forgot about the country rock thing the Tardy’s from Obituary did, Alabama Thunderpussy
Ryan
January 5, 2017 @ 8:15 am
I remember Crossroads with Aldean and Bryan Adams – Bryan stated “you a rock band disguised as country” – believe Aldean responded by saying something like, “I think I only get away with it because I wear a cowboy hat”.
‘Nuff said….
albert
January 5, 2017 @ 3:30 pm
It doesn’t matter WHAT genre you work in and are successful in artistically , in my opinion you can’t just ‘decide’ to make a country record and expect to have it accepted by a REAL country audience . Yes , people do this , but the minute you change lanes , you’ve not only compromised any artistic integrity you may have had but you immediately red flag the authenticity and honesty of the ‘country ‘ record you’ve decided to make . The list of people who’ve failed at this attempt is endless and grows by the day . They , their labels and the ‘fans’ they are hoping to reach are oblivious to so much of what makes a record connect beyond , if you are lucky , a solid lyric .And so people invariably won’t ‘get it ‘ , they won’t relate to the ” change of direction ” in an honest , natural , visceral and undefinable way . It will be a meaningless , vacuous waste of effort for all .
Sure , real country is traditional instrumentation and themes , to an extent , but most importantly its a mindset and an authenticity informed by experience and a more than cursory knowledge of and respect for the artistry of the people on whose shoulders you are standing . As an artist , you don’t listen to a country record and say ” I can do that ” . You listen to a country record and say ” I can FEEL that ….from the emotion in the steel guitar to the authenticity of the vocal performance to those killer lyrics that come from a real place and are crafted in such a way that they hit you right in the middle of your chest in a way that you can’t HELP but feel .And you FEEL it because you’ve been raised in it , steeped in it , you’ve lived it , heard it , seen it and felt it …..and you totally understand where its all coming from in a way that someone who HASN’T been steeped in it could NEVER understand . Its just not in their DNA .
This is what’s missing from so much mainstream country music . It is anything but authentic …from the 6 and 7 writers rhyming it at a 10AM writing ” appointment ” to the generic vocalist trying to perform it to the rock n roll producers putting the marketable polish on it . It’s lost touch with not just HOW it needs to be created but WHY it was in the first place . Mainstream country ( and pop with its Sesame Street lyric and melody to its autotune and lack of real musicians on the tracks ) is soulless and dishonest . Sure , any artist from any genre can make a ‘country record’ …it is indeed possible . But its no more artistic than a TV or radio jingle for an insurance company .
Lance
January 5, 2017 @ 9:38 pm
Well, these guitar players don’t actually even play for a country band. This article is Spot On. Nothing needs to be added.
Marky Mark
January 6, 2017 @ 11:09 am
I have been saying for years that shania’s any man of mine is just the country version of pour some sugar on me. Obviously Mutt played a big roll in hysteria on the writing and creative side. He just took those tricks and applied them to shania in the country arena. So, yeah, good point, he clearly played a role in triggering all this.
Orgirl1
January 6, 2017 @ 10:15 pm
This reminds me of a Brantley Gilbert song I heard recently. The whole song sounded like it was being performed by a 3rd tier 80’s Glam Rock band. Country music is not “evolving”. More like “devolving”.
Big Cat
January 7, 2017 @ 5:45 am
Well it’s called popular mainstream music. Think about it, a lot of arena rock from the 80’s and early 90’s is still on the radio. Bon Jovi is still selling out arenas. Is there a huge difference in Jason Andean riffs and bands like Bom Jobi?
I think Dave is spot on.
Big Cat
January 7, 2017 @ 5:47 am
Aldean …. damn phone
Big Cat
January 7, 2017 @ 5:48 am
Ok I quit….. Bon Jovi
Chris
January 8, 2017 @ 1:50 pm
The only artist/band that could come close is Eric Church’s band….James Hatfield invited them to play the Orion Festival, first time I saw them they did 5-6 min intro with Pantera, Metallica, ACDC Ozzy…Cease and Driver could play in a metal band easy…..
Roooster
January 15, 2017 @ 12:32 am
I totally agree,and have been saying the same thing about “Top Ten”, or “Top 40” Country Formats. The entertainers, deeply have wanted to be Rock Stars,but couldn’t make it in that Genre,and the Demwits,running the Country Scene, extend their welcoming arms to them. “Come to us,we’ll take you” ! Ever noticed Popular ,Young,Country Artists, wearing T-Shirts on Award Shows, with Def Leopard, or The Beatles, or Motley Crue ? Well, that’s who they idolize,want to be like. Don’t want to be like Jones,Williams, Loretta,etc..
Lauren Glenn
December 27, 2017 @ 7:29 am
As with most rock bands, it seems the ones that become mainstream that most people hear about who aren’t diehard fans of the genre are often the crap that floats to the top. I love Megadeth and have been a fan even through the bad years (13 was fairly bad). And Metallica hasn’t had a really good album since they ditched Flemming Rasmussen which to this day, I still don’t see why they did that. I didn’t know why Rush ditched Terry Brown until after hearing Dream Theater’s run in with him. I guess there’s a reason…..