Don’t You Think This Post Malone Bit’s Done Got Outta Hand

I don’t need Post Malone playing The Bluebird Cafe. I don’t need Post Malone screwing up Joe Diffie covers with HARDY and Morgan Wallen on the CMA Awards. I don’t need Post Malone shutting down Lower Broadway in the middle of the damn day to record some lame music video with Luke Combs. I don’t want to see Bryan Sutton backing Post Malone as he makes heart hands to the crowd at Marathon Music Works in an “exclusive” party produced to be a commercial for Bud Light as part of the brand’s rehabilitation campaign.
Post Malone, Post Malone, Post Malone. His “country” album F-1 Trillion isn’t even out for another month (August 16th), and he’s already dominating the narrative at a time when country music was finally dominating much of the narrative in popular music all on its own, and with some of the best music it’s produced in the last 20 years.
This whole thing started with Post Malone wearing Colter Wall and Tyler Childers T-shirts, hyping up Billy Strings, and covering Sturgill Simpson. And hey, I will be the first to admit that his promotion of cool country artists and the prospects of making a country album were promising. Don’t discount that some of this Post Malone activity probably clued people into the presence of country music you’ll never hear on corporate country radio, or see on the CMA Awards, and did these artists and the rest of us a bit of good. Hats off to him.
But the two “country” songs we’ve heard from Post Malone so far have featured Morgan Wallen and Blake Shelton—public enemy #1 and #2 to many true country music fans. They may be catchy as hell, but they’re otherwise pretty lame. When Post Malone’s “country” album does come out, my guess is with 18 tracks, there’s probably going to be some good stuff on it. There also may be some cool collaborations with some actual country artists, maybe Billy Strings or Sierra Ferrell, or both. Hell, at this point there better be after all the garbage we’ve endured during the preamble.
But this all feels like a big distraction at a time when we were finally on a big winning streak in country. Now we’ve got to contend with this pop superstar wanting to soak of some of the popularity built off the hard work of country artists. It’s no longer about country music needing Post Malone to hype it, it’s about Post Malone needing country to hype him. And that’s what’s happening at the expense of all the great music coming out right now as the media and public gravitate towards the shiniest object—or in this case, the one with the most face tattoos.
Don’t take this as “gatekeeping” necessarily. If Post Malone wants to make a country album, he has every right to. But it feels like we’re heading towards the same false alarm we had with Beyoncé, which still has people tripped up in believing she made a country album. All the stuff we’ve heard so far from Posty’s F-1 Trillion album would be fair to slot as Southern pop at best. It’s probably fair to expect that to be the lion’s share of the project. It’s also all been very much within the American major label system, and the corporate brand mainstream.
Oh, and please spare us the “Yeah, but he’s from Grapevine, Texas.” This was the same silly notion about how Beyoncé must be country because she’s from Houston. If being from Texas immediately bequeaths you the birthright to make country music, that also must mean that people not from Texas, the Deep South, or the American West are somehow inferior at making country music. Try telling that mess to Flint, Michigan’s Whitey Morgan.
But one thing that Post Malone probably has on Beyoncé is that he’s actually trying. Perhaps he’s trying too much, and that is the concern here. But where Post is making all of these appearances and doing all of these collaborations to make a buzz, Beyoncé’s Cowboy Carter now sits at #51 on the album charts, despite all the media hype and 27 tracks. It’s likely F-1 Trillion will be stuck in the Top 10 in the Billboard Albums chart for the next two years.
But herein lies another dilemma for country since this will cast a shadow over country music’s native performers. The massive single with Morgan Wallen “I Had Some Help” is already doing this. Since Zach Bryan released his last album The Great American Bar Scene on a Thursday—giving it only one day of streaming data—and Zach didn’t wait around for physical product to be made, its chart performance was terrible. It also doesn’t help that it didn’t have a big hit single.
Some have pointed out how when Beyoncé’s Cowboy Carter was released, there was much push back, but when White performers from the pop/hip-hop world such as Jelly Roll and Post Malone show up, they’re embraced. There is probably a little truth to that. But to many in country music, it’s not the skin color that matters, it’s the music. If Post Malone had shown up performing actual country music with Billy Strings and Tyler Childers as opposed to Blake Shelton and Morgan Wallen, we may be singing a different tune.
Meanwhile, on Friday, July 19th, long-time singer, upright bass player, and songwriter Melissa Carper released her latest album called Borned In Ya (read review). The title track was inspired by a quote from Dr. Ralph Stanley about how the music had to be “Borned in ya” for you to sing it and play it.
All around the United States and world, young boys and girls from all regions and of all ethnicities get inspired at a tender age to play country music, some as side players, some as solo artists, some that just want to be songwriters. Then they set out towards that goal as their life’s purpose, never taking their eye off that mark, or waffling from that objective, often sacrificing, sometimes struggling in obscurity to make that dream happen. So feel like they were born to do it.
These are the performers who should be country music’s center of attention. As great as it is to see so much attention being paid to country music these days, it’s important that it goes to the right places. And as much as outside media loves to say that country music needs performers like Beyonce, Post Malone, or whomever else to be relevant in the modern entertainment landscape, country has never focused on being relevant or popular, aside from the performers who are more pop than country anyway.
Country music is only focused on being country. Let the popularity come and go, and let the creatures of pop be the ones to obsess over world domination.
July 22, 2024 @ 10:29 am
Posty has some serious talent and monstrous marketing muscle behind him, no doubt about it, but yeah, waaaaaayyy outta hand this bit’s gotten.
When I first heard that “I had some help” song, I thought for sure, initially, I was hearing a revamp of that Koe Wetzel song “something to talk about.”
July 22, 2024 @ 11:05 am
I was worried as I was reading this that there would not be a reference to Zach Bryan. I was about to collapse. But then I finally found it. Whew!! Now I can rest easy.
Seriously, I have no interest in Post Toasties. And the last sentence on this post is superb.
July 22, 2024 @ 11:09 am
Thank you for settings things straight Trigger!
Ugh, seeing Bryan Sutton in the photo with PM is upsetting.
July 22, 2024 @ 4:02 pm
Man has to pay his bills.
July 22, 2024 @ 11:10 am
I do not get the Post Malone thing at all. He just does not impress me. I suppose with so much real and genuinely good music around, I just don’t need Post Malone. His publicity people must be working non-stop.
July 22, 2024 @ 11:34 am
I blame it on the industry machine. They are youth obsessed and firmly believe that the young demographic want to hear music with strong hip- hop influences, because they think that’s where the $$$ lies. They haven’t yet fully got that actual Country music and close derivatives of it are selling out arenas now.
So we have this guy, and Jelly Roll, Shaboozey and Diplo, and the industry is convinced this is the gold.
July 22, 2024 @ 12:08 pm
I am truly surprised just how much Post Malone has embraced the industry idea of how all of this should go down, all the way to the Bud Light photo ops with the can label facing the audience. Music aside, I thought he came across as a very open, likable guy that was big enough to do things his way. How all of this has happened has been very cynical and calculating. I’m sure there will be a Billy Strings collab or something similar on the album once it’s released. But the public facing aspect is all mainstream country superstars and corporate beer bands. At the absolute least, he should have put up the stop sign at Anheuser Busch.
July 22, 2024 @ 1:33 pm
Kevin, you have no idea how right you are about the youth demo and hip-hop influences. I attended my 28-year old niece’s wedding over the weekend. After the bridal party of young-uns finished screaming the words to “Mr. Brightside” and then disappeared from the dance floor while the DJ played some oldies for the old folks like “September”, the hip-hop brought them all right back finished with a truly hideous mass butchering of that damn Shaboozey song to which they know every word. Other than the bride/groom dance to “All Your’n”, there wasn’t a hint of Zach Bryan, Noah Kahn, Sam Barber or whatever else we think the kids are into. The industry is absolutely feeding them hip-hop because they are eating it up. The worst part was I knew that damn Shaboozey song from this website so when someone asked what song is this that the kids all love I immediately answered. At which point I had to turn in my independent country music lover card and tried to explain why I knew it to no avail. I blame Trigger for that!
July 25, 2024 @ 4:27 pm
You sound like fun at parties….
But honestly who would want to listen to Sam Barber or Noah Kahn at a wedding? Nirvana was the biggest band with a new generation at one point and I’m sure “rape me” wasn’t playing at the family wedding. The correlation you are making doesn’t make sense. As someone who was raised on peddle steel, fiddle and classic country I would rather listen to Shaboozy at a wedding than Noah singing about a cold Vermont Winter.
July 26, 2024 @ 6:41 am
Casey, you’re right, I definitely came off judgemental here. Wasn’t my intent. The kids (young adults) had a ball and it was fun watching them have a ball. My point was simply that they knew all the hip-hop stuff very well and obviously don’t just listen to it at weddings. The hip-hop influence in country is not my thing. I do think some of Zach’s songs are danceable? Guess I was surprised not to hear a single ZB song given his popularity amongst the 20-30 year olds.
July 26, 2024 @ 6:15 pm
That’s fair, and I’m sorry if my comment came across as snarky or mean.
July 26, 2024 @ 12:50 am
I love that damn Shaboozey song. Post Malone too. And I’m a boomer.
July 26, 2024 @ 4:26 pm
I would say that type of pop country is popular with certain members of GenZ, but there are plenty, like myself, who enjoy listening to more traditional country. It’s part of the reason Zach Bryan, Charles Wesley Godwin, Tyler Childers, Sturgill Simpson, Sierra Ferrell and many many others have become popular. Not everyone in the GenZ demographic likes the Morgan Wallen, Post Malone, Hardy and Jelly Roll pop/hip hop with twang added in.
July 22, 2024 @ 11:39 am
None of these idiots have been embraced by me. Post Malone, Jelly Roll & Beyonce are all the same terrible person as far as I’m concerned
July 23, 2024 @ 3:06 am
Agree, Jellyroll and Post Malone are the same person to me.
July 22, 2024 @ 11:51 am
The duet with Mulvaney gonna be ?
July 22, 2024 @ 12:19 pm
Trig, while you may be spot on correct in everything you wrote, you may also be wrong (regarding the new album). I think it would have been better to just wait til the album comes out, then say whatever you want, without having to speculate. Just my 2 cents…
July 22, 2024 @ 1:33 pm
This is definitely something I thought about when writing this article. Like I said, I expect there to be some good stuff on the album. I hope there is, and I look forward to hearing it. But as Post released songs with Morgan Wallen, then Blake Shelton, then did his promo op at The Bluebird, then his video shoot on Lower Broadway, and the especially this very cringey commercial for Bud Light, I felt like someone needed to step up and offer a counter-narrative.
This is not an album review. When the album is released, I’m sure I will eventually review it, and will approach it with an open mind and fresh perspective like I always try to do.
July 22, 2024 @ 2:06 pm
Fair enough.
July 22, 2024 @ 12:36 pm
Not sure why you say Zach Bryan’s album didn’t perform well on the charts.
17 of the 19 tracks charted on the Hot 100 (plus one of the 2 that didn’t was a poem), even without the first day streams that came on the Thursday, and it still got up to #2 on the Billboard 200 album chart. Only beaten out by Taylor Swift putting out extra promotion for her massively successful album.
July 22, 2024 @ 1:58 pm
Though Zach did get to #2, if he would have released on a Friday and waited for physical product, he would have knocked Taylor Swift out of the #1 spot.
But this observance really comes via the song chart placements. For example, “Hey Driver” with The War & Treaty from the self-titled album charted at #5 in country, and #14 overall. “Holy Roller” with Sierra Ferrell charted at #17 and #37. This was massive for these contributing artists.
Conversely, “Memphis: The Blues” with John Moreland from the new album charted #31 in country, and #83 overall. Even the Bruce Springsteen track charted #26 and #71. This is not nearly the same impact.
I’m not saying Zach should release music different just to chart better. But these things do feed a lot into public perception about how bad or well an album is doing. Post Malone is likely to bury these numbers, creating even more buzz behind him, while Zach missed that post-release buzz cycle.
July 22, 2024 @ 1:01 pm
Since that butt-rock soundin’, fatass, crybaby, tub-o’-lard (you already know who I mean) sad-sack-of-shit Jelly Roll is on the radio and receiving country music awards I can’t say anything bad about Post Malone doing country.
July 22, 2024 @ 1:18 pm
His country work may be trash but he seems like a genuine person and he’s obviously talented. I don’t think he’s using country music in an effort to stay relevant, he’s just using his pop star status to do a thing he actually enjoys.
And I was admittedly somewhere between baseless minor distain and no opinion at all about the guy until his pulled this off during COVID lockdowns:
https://www.youtube.com/live/f7eaGcIyhPU?si=XJ067Z1ZXQF3YtaF
July 22, 2024 @ 1:56 pm
Post is recording with studio greats like Brent Mason. His releases will be straight-up late 90’s/early 00’s sounding country, albeit more cheesy sounding than anything Brooks and Dunn or Brad Paisley put out at that time. Despite myself not being a fan of him, his country releases so far have been “fun” sounding. I don’t see a good argument to reject him when Zach Bryan releases his high school drama-ex marine emo shit and butt-rockers like Jelly Roll and Hardy are just using the country genre for popularity when neither of those two nutsacks could find George Jones if it was a bottle of pain pills on a trailer park coffee table. Not to mention Lainey Wilson being this queen of ‘authentic modern female country in the mainstream’ when her only street cred is being a Hannah Montana impersonator in her teens.
I think we collectively owe Midland an apology.
July 22, 2024 @ 2:07 pm
“Post is recording with studio greats like Brent Mason. His releases will be straight-up late 90’s/early 00’s sounding country…”
We’ve heard four songs from the album so far. At the moment he’s batting 0.00% for this coming true.
Do I expect some straight up country tracks on the album? Yes I do. What does this have to do with his cringey Bud Light activation or his canned appearance at the Bluebird Cafe that was criticized here? Nothing.
July 22, 2024 @ 3:50 pm
I don’t see how you think this is 0% true. I wasn’t talking about him releasing a ‘Neon Moon’ but more like ’19 Something’ by Mark Willis and the shit Keith Urban and Toby Keith released. And I even clarified that it would be cheesier than the good stuff from that era.
People seem to forget that late 90’s and early 00’s country music had a lot of duds too.
July 22, 2024 @ 4:09 pm
“I don’t see a good argument to reject him when Zach Bryan releases his high school drama-ex marine emo shit and butt-rockers like Jelly Roll and Hardy are just using the country genre for popularity when neither of those two nutsacks could find George Jones if it was a bottle of pain pills on a trailer park coffee table.”
I howled at this. This is a great piece of writing!
BTW: Anyone can record with Brent Mason, it’s not as tough or as expensive as you might think.
July 22, 2024 @ 4:38 pm
You’re right about it not being too expensive. I more so meant that Brent was speaking favorably about Post on his own instagram when in the studio.
July 24, 2024 @ 6:28 pm
Ten years ago I produced a project using T Swift’s rhythm section. Friends and family were amazed I was able to secure their services. Truth is, they gotta work. They don’t get royalties.
July 22, 2024 @ 5:40 pm
Now that is funny, and very true.
July 23, 2024 @ 6:45 am
Authenticity concerns disappear when an artist is liked.
July 22, 2024 @ 1:22 pm
Well sometimes when you ask for something, you shouldnt be surprised when receive more than you asked for. There waa a cost for him putting those names out in the spotlight. Though like someone said, maybe should have waited for the album to say anything. Of course we had to throw a wallen and bryan mention in there. But its all good.
July 22, 2024 @ 1:24 pm
I honestly think this article is entirely unnecessary, out of nowhere, and entirely premature. Post is incredibly talented, coming at this from the right place and with the right influences for the album to be a worthwhile listen. The first two singles had a lot of pop sounds, sure, why are we shocked by this, it’s the lead two singles lmao. Also, the guy IS a pop/hip hop guy, there WILL be traces of that in the album, and NO that’s not always a bad thing if it’s done well. The album is 18 songs, we’ve heard 2 of them, given everything I know about the guy and how much time, dedication, and effort he’s made into ramping this whole thing up and making it a reality, I’m inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt and wait til the album actually comes out to make my judgements.
July 22, 2024 @ 1:48 pm
As I said in another comment, I did have some personal reservations about posting this article before the album release. But in no way am I passing judgements on the album itself. This is not an album review. This is a reaction from the overwhelming immersion of Post Malone appearances, releases, activations, media coverage, etc. that is dominating everything “country music” leading up to the album release. If this is where we’re at now, I can only imagine where we’re going to be release week. I was looking forward to Post Malone’s foray into country, and years ago, actively advocating for it. I just never thought it would go in this direction.
Whenever the album is released, I’ll listen to it and judge it objectively like any other album.
For the record, we’ve actually heard four songs with the video he released at the Bud Light showcase, and the one played during the video shoot on Lower Broadway with Luke Combs.
July 22, 2024 @ 2:42 pm
Don’t you think I feel it too (shout out to David Ball and an all timer country song.
July 22, 2024 @ 4:38 pm
Live version of Would You Hide My Gun with HARDY is on youtube.
It sucks.
July 22, 2024 @ 5:12 pm
First off, Bud Light sucks and has always sucked! I thought Post was big enough to deliver a straight up country record. I can live with the first two singles if there is some good stuff on the album.
Second or third, Zach Bryan’s new album is boring as shit. I am going to give it some more spins but it’s rough. I guess his live album will continue to be his best album musically speaking. I still love the Elizabeth album.
July 22, 2024 @ 6:24 pm
Post Malone has a terrible country voice, and his whole image screams douchebro. Hopefully this project crashes and burns, because one jelly roll is more than enough.
July 22, 2024 @ 11:34 pm
When i grew up, hiphop heads hated country for being redneck music, and country fans equally hated sh*thop for being unorganic and immature.
If someone had told me back then, that in the future, hiphop would become so obsessed with country, that some performers are willing to go all “single white female” over it, i’d just laugh. Yet here we are.
“I’m not a rapper. Not anymore. I’m honky tonk hero like you now”
July 23, 2024 @ 4:02 am
…i quite enjoy this “intrusion/forray” into country music and look forward to finding out at the end of the year, who has had the upper hand (commercially): the country folks or the intruders? not since the 70s (olivia newton-john, john denver, charlie rich) there has been such a gripping and high profile “race” going on in the genre. rather fascinating.
July 23, 2024 @ 4:52 am
Malone’s Sturgill Simpson cover was great, I loved it and play it a lot. But I have not heard anything else from him that I am in any way fond of listening to. There is potential in him to do some good “country music” but it has not come yet. We will see what the new album is like, but if it is all just Wallen & Hardy, I don’t think so and no thank you!
July 23, 2024 @ 6:21 am
I’ve been a big fan of him for a while. If you have followed his career and watched any interviews, he’s a fan of rap, punk, hardcore, country, 80’s, and many other genres. I think he’s coming from a genuine place and I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. The first singles aren’t what I was expecting, but that’s okay. He’s seems to be enjoying himself more than ever and that’s a good thing. I’d rather have a guy who is a seemingly genuine country fan make this type of music over Jelly Roll and Beyonce even if it doesn’t quite hit the mark.
July 23, 2024 @ 3:44 pm
Couldn’t find the Sierra Ferrell/Post Malone collabs on YouTube. One of them is “Jackson” If anyone can point me to them I’d be much obliged.
July 24, 2024 @ 8:16 am
I mean I guess I see what you are trying to say here, but I just can’t hate on Posty like that.
July 24, 2024 @ 5:23 pm
Zach Bryan does not seem to care all that much about fame or money, which I find refreshing and almost punk rock. It makes him more likable to me. Compare that to Taylor Swift who has rigged the system with endless re-releases.
July 28, 2024 @ 6:56 am
Ok. I by going thru the Whiskey Riff website to Instagram I found snippets of the Sierra Ferrell/Post Malone duets. Post Malone seems a vulgarian, surrounding himself with cigarettes and beer onstage, and making spastic, coarse gestures when the lyrics refer to intimacy. I guess he needed the money from the brewery, and he was oblivious to how insulting he was to Sierra Ferrell dueting with him onstage. OTOH he’ll probably be a good father for his daughter, judging by the lyrics of “Yours”
July 28, 2024 @ 7:03 am
Yes, the only 3 Post Malone songs I’ve heard are “Yours” and those 2 snippets of duets with Sierra Ferrell. Yes, I see all the notables who’ve honored him by collaborating.