Eric Church Blasts #1 Hitmakers That “Couldn’t Play Their Own High School”
Eric Church is launching a new line of whiskey. It’s called “Whiskey JYPSI” or something. It seems every artist wants to get in the business of spirits these days. Managers love to tell their artists that it helps establish their “brand.”
But lets not bury the lede here. While speaking with Esquire as part of a spread about his foray into the whiskey business, Eric Church dropped what have turned out to be some pretty incendiary comments about country radio and the country music business at large. Of course they’re 100% true. But in country music, you’re not supposed to tell the truth. You’re supposed to tow the line. But Church has never been especially good at that.
While touting the “Americana” community and artists such as Tyler Childers and Brandi Carlisle, Eric Church told Esquire, “I don’t think you have to have radio now. I don’t think you have to have a label, I don’t think you have to win CMA Vocalist of the Year—I don’t think any of that is necessary anymore. There’s people in the country music industry that have had multiple No. 1 songs that couldn’t play their own high school, and there’s guys out here that have never, ever been on country radio that are doing eight thousand tickets.”
Forget 8,000 tickets. Try 15,000-30,000. But Eric Church’s underlying point remains: radio, labels, and awards no longer mean what they once did. This is patently evident as we see folks like Zach Bryan, Cody Jinks, Tyler Childers, Billy Strings, and others soaring in popularity, and selling out arenas and stadiums.
The comments from Eric Church dovetail with similar comments made recently by other major personalities in country music. It’s not that they’re especially revealing to anyone who is actually paying attention, but it’s the “saying the quiet part out loud” aspect that makes them so important.
In June, Garth Brooks also spoke out about radio, saying in part, “I think radio is a reflection of the labels’ agenda … the labels simply own radio, they just do. They can say they don’t, or radio can say they don’t, but the truth is that nobody is going to get played on there that doesn’t have a major-label deal …”
Garth Brooks made the comments ahead of launching his own radio station called the Big 615 on TuneIn, underscoring how alternatives to radio continue to pop up left and right. The biggest personality in country radio, Bobby Bones, made similar statements back in 2021.
“Here’s the truth about No. 1 songs: It’s politics,” Bones said in part. “They trade them out like baseball cards. A record label will talk to another record label and go, ‘OK, I’ll give you this No. 1 on this date; you give me that No. 1 on that date.’ Which really, it just should be the song that’s the most wanted, the most listened to, the song that people demand … and so when you hear someone talk about a No. 1 song, I would say half of them aren’t legitimate No. 1 songs.”
Most anyone actually paying attention to how country music operates would agree with these statements, but that doesn’t mean everyone finds them agreeable. Josh Gracin who came up via American Idol and has a #1 himself with “Nothin’ To Lose” from 2004 (and probably couldn’t play his high school these days) didn’t take kindly to Eric Church’s comments, and left a few of his own on Facebook.
He just can’t keep his mouth shut. Little insider info, I was next to him on the radio tour when we first started out. He was singing about “two pink lines” with long hair and a shell choker. Got pissed off and whined about not being played on the radio.
Went away for years to build the ‘chief’ persona like he was some kind of outsider, a rebel radio didn’t want, yet he’s always been on Capitol records, a major label. He’s never been an outsider or rebel, just plays one.”
One of the worst singers as well. Tired of his mouth, it’s been running for 20 years unchecked. He’s done nothing but tear other artists down for years until he realized he needed back in current media, so he started taking Morgan Wallen out golfing.
No doubt he’s done well for himself but he shouldn’t throw stones considering he’s nowhere near authentic. Guy can’t swing a hammer let alone be a rebel, while sitting comfortably at a major label all these years.
In some respects, Josh Gracin is right about Eric Church. But that doesn’t make what Eric Church said about radio, labels, and awards wrong. Eric Church has enjoyed all three of them, including being named the CMA Entertainer of the Year in 2020. But Church hits have always been hit or miss on radio, and he has built his fan base mostly on his own as opposed to following the major label formula.
Either way, we’re beginning to see major cracks form in the foundation of the major label/radio/awards system that has been controlling mainstream country music for going on a century. While massive stars are being launched independently and on social media, these institutions are slow to catch up. It’s creating friction inside the business. Though country music might be more healthy and supported than ever before, the old ways of the industry are very quickly becoming outmoded and irrelevant.
It makes sense for Garth Brooks to compain about radio because despite his continued success in the live context, he’s mostly struggled at radio in recent years. But Eric Church is still a current, relevant star, giving his words about radio, major labels, and awards much more weight.
It’s a very real possibility that in the next few years, the entire way we regard “country music” will be turned upside down. Institutions such as radio and the CMA Awards will either need to adapt, or be relegated to the dust bin of history. Radio can still survive, but only if it goes more local, and independent. And major labels are already signing independent acts left and right to distributions deals where they can keep creative control control of their masters just like Flatland Cavalry just announced.
Everything is changing, and at a quickening pace. And either you remain tethered to the dying modes and institutions, or you adapt. Eric Church will probably be fine no matter what he does since he’s developed loyalty in his fans base. But half a dozen #1’s on radio won’t do you much good when the current mainstream system implodes.
Chris
September 29, 2023 @ 11:14 am
Garbage words from Gracin.. Church was controlled by the industry for his first 2 records and didn’t have a single songwriting credit. Since Chief, and the many albums since.. he’s written a TON of the hits, done the thing his way, and is more popular than ever
This isn’t homeing for Eric Church.. it is what it is
Tballs
September 29, 2023 @ 11:29 am
He has songwriting credits on almost every song on his first albums?
CountryKnight
September 29, 2023 @ 12:47 pm
Chris,
Eric Church had writing credits from the start.
Check your information.
Strait
September 29, 2023 @ 2:53 pm
I’m not on the “inside” of the music industry but I have friends who are actively trying to make it and have witnessed the steps and conversations they are involved with while “crafting their image” and maximizing their social media.
It’s very weird.
Danny Grant
October 8, 2023 @ 7:49 am
Tell your friends to look at BAD JeuJeu Records. The label of the future where we partner with the artist not own the artist. We help in all aspects of your image and career. Just remember, signing a contract doesn’t mean you made it, it means you are about to go to work. We just point you in the right direction.
Strait
September 29, 2023 @ 2:59 pm
Like actors, these aspiring artists will do almost anything to get that uber success. Many artists who started off with Merle Haggard in their acoustic sets prostituted and sold off any integrity for success – with the lingering hope of getting to choose a few personal corn kernels to remain in the turd.
I’m sure major acts have so much hatred towards Zach Bryan and others independents who achieved success while doing songs that they want to do every step of the way.
No way in hell Luke Bryan, Jason Aldean, Blake Shelton, etc got into the business with the hopes of playing the shit they are known for.
Tim
September 29, 2023 @ 3:11 pm
I didn’t see what Eric Church said as a dig on Josh. I think he was just stating the facts of the industry. If they want you to be a star you will be, if not they control your fate. You need artist like church and brooks shaking things up.
Kimlenznorth
October 6, 2023 @ 10:27 am
I totally AGREE!!
He says what the industry won’t say because image is more important to them.
His song writing is AMAZING has helped me through some hard times and accompanied me through good times as well ????????❤️
the pistolero
September 29, 2023 @ 11:14 am
LOL. Josh Gracin.
I mean, he isn’t entirely wrong, but…LOL. Josh Gracin.
Still not a big fan of EC, but his comments were right on the money.
Conrad Fisher
September 29, 2023 @ 12:22 pm
You don’t have to be that high profile to make a respectable living in music. I’m sure Josh Gracin does ok.
the pistolero
September 29, 2023 @ 1:04 pm
That may be, but considering the dude hasn’t had a hit in a good 18 years, it’s’ kinda funny that he’s speaking up now. More so since he didn’t attack anything Eric Church actually said, just Eric himself. I mean, Josh might well have a point, but I don’t see how that made anything Eric Church actually said wrong.
North Woods Country
September 30, 2023 @ 6:06 am
Josh Gracin has some really good music. It’s a shame he never got real traction beyond a handful of years.
Aria
September 29, 2023 @ 11:28 am
This is a great thing, I absolutely love to stick it in the face of soulless major labels and radio. This era of country is actually really amazing and people in the future will look back on the 2020’s with jealousy that they weren’t there to experience it. I want country to be more indie and more real and more soulful and that could be the country revival we’ve been looking for since the 90’s. I also hope it will dispel this curse of country being full of right wing wackos who have no love for the genre and use it as a tool to get their awful ideologies out there.
(Me and) Paul
September 29, 2023 @ 11:50 am
The most telling part about Gracin’s retort is it follows the poor strategy of attacking the person rather than the actual idea Church was talking about. Contributed nothing to try to actually prove that what EC was saying was incorrect.
I’m pretty middle of the road when it comes to any kind of Church fandom but saying that he’s a hypocrite for wanting radio play in the mid ‘aughts is also just false equivalency. That was almost 20 years ago – you needed radio play for relevancy as a new artist then a whole hell of a lot more than you do today.
JR Covey
September 29, 2023 @ 12:00 pm
Ah…I saw the quote elsewhere and thought he was referring to the folks who write the songs but have no followings. This is also a take.
Rich
September 29, 2023 @ 12:04 pm
If you need any proof that EC is one thousand percent correct on this take a run over to the Red Clay Strays social media. Just today they’re sporting pics of their brand new shiny clean monster of a bus with their logo emblazoned down the side. Their little old airport shuttle bus will hopefully make its way into the country music hall of fame in 20 years. With Dave Cobb signed up to produce their next record and sold out shows all over the place, the Strays are absolutely on the verge of completely blowing up and it’s awesome to see. And not a lick of radio play or a label.
stupidwordpress
September 29, 2023 @ 12:31 pm
This is the most real comment of the day. Been following RCS for a couple years now and the world has not idea what they are getting ready to experience with these guys. They are a once in a lifetime act and will hopefully manage the fame well enough to stick around for a long time.
Adam Sheets
September 29, 2023 @ 6:48 pm
I got into them when Western AF posted one of their songs a few months ago (I missed Trigger’s review when their album came out) and I’ve been listening to them obsessively. Definitely one of the best bands I’ve heard in a long time and their album is retroactively my album of the year last year.
Jeremy
September 29, 2023 @ 12:12 pm
Trigger, this has nothing to do with this post, but for some reason it struck me as I was reading it:
I know this is a Country site, but i have seen you mention several times that you are not exclusively a country fan. It would be cool to get an end of year post with all of your favorites from outside the genre.
Trigger
September 29, 2023 @ 12:59 pm
Hey Jeremy,
I do like other types of music beyond country. But I am tasked with listening and reviewing so much country music these days, I don’t have much time for it at all, and what I do listen to is mostly back catalog stuff. So I’m not sure I could put and end of year list like that together. I appreciate the interest though.
RJ
September 29, 2023 @ 12:16 pm
Trigger, what do you see as the main benchmark of success in country music as it is seen through the eyes of the goober that is trying to “make it”? Is it earnings, record sales, or ticket sales? And how much (totally generalized – each a 3rd, one far more than the other two, etc) at the high levels of country music do record sales, radio airplay, and ticket sales contribute to earnings?
I ask this because if radio airplay contributes heavily to success (I imagine earnings would be the main goal for goobers), perhaps the shift will take far longer. I frame this around the goober because these are the acts we are hoping to reduce and if ticket sales are the main driver, that is amazing news.
Trigger
September 29, 2023 @ 2:48 pm
This is kind of a hard question to answer, but far and away, artists make the most money these days from live performance. This is where the money is, unless you’re streaming music into the millions. You don’t really make any money off of radio play. It’s the downstream effects of it. But as we’ve seen more and more, those downstream effects are just not turning into something tangible. George Strait hasn’t been played on the radio in years, but he’s selling out stadiums. So is Garth Brooks. It’s hard to say they’re not big acts, just because they’re not getting radio play, or their new albums aren’t selling well.
RJ
September 29, 2023 @ 2:56 pm
Great news then. Radio can kick rocks specifically as it pertains to saving country. Thanks for the response!
Lance Ross
September 29, 2023 @ 12:29 pm
Church is pretty main stream from where I sit.
For what it’s worth, it’s ‘toe the line’.
LR
Ian Daniel Barnes
September 29, 2023 @ 5:17 pm
Yeah he seems like a cool guy but his music is very much mainstream production from what I’ve heard.
CountryKnight
September 29, 2023 @ 12:49 pm
“Two Pink Lines” is one of Eric’s best songs, Josh.
Church used to be one of my favorites but he lost me two albums ago. The man needs to return to his “Sinners Like Me” sound. But he wants to make half-baked rock and roll instead.
Whatever. Texas Country does it better.
Cool Lester Smooth
September 29, 2023 @ 4:10 pm
Gotta say, I LOVE Mr. Misunderstood and I’d rate Chief as a Top 5 “Pop Country” album from the last 15 years or so.
…but I haven’t listened to Heart, Soul, or “&,” and I don’t plan to any time soon.
CountryKnight
September 29, 2023 @ 4:50 pm
“Chief” was my life soundtrack, haha. “Mr. Misunderstood” was great, too. I remember the day it dropped and racing to Walmart once it was available for everyone.
“Desperate Man” is where the end began.
I do recommend listening to “Love Shine Down” and “Crazyland.” They are incredible songs. Everything else is disposable.
Cool Lester Smooth
September 29, 2023 @ 6:08 pm
Sure, we’re both 30-adjacent – Chief was my default driving album for the year of and year after it came out.
CountryKnight
October 2, 2023 @ 12:03 pm
It came out 12 years ago.
Go slowly, the hands of time.
Cap’n B
September 29, 2023 @ 5:37 pm
Mr. Misunderstood is one of my favorite albums of time. I also thought Desperate Man was very underrated. Heart & Soul was definitely his weakest release to date, in my opinion.
CountryKnight
September 29, 2023 @ 12:52 pm
I like Church but the comments about him cosplaying as a rebel were agreed with here in 2010 and 2011.
And they are true. Church is a marketing genius. Just like Garth. The music is good but the marketing is just as strong.
Trigger
September 29, 2023 @ 12:57 pm
Like I said in the article, some of Josh Gracin’s attacks on Church hold an element of truth. But that doesn’t really undermine what Church said. Gracin attacked the messenger as opposed to the message. And it does mean something that Church is still a radio relevant star while making these comments.
Jimmy
October 3, 2023 @ 9:05 pm
Church isn’t a marketing genius, the people behind him are very good at marketing. And that would be the major label power and money he now seems to hate.
Posey Hill Band
September 29, 2023 @ 12:53 pm
The gatekeepers are losing their power as indie artists are finding ways of getting in. Most people stream nowadays anyway and produce their own high quality music. I think social media, venues and publications like this one will be the new norm for people to find what’s good and new.
Ben
September 29, 2023 @ 3:31 pm
That’s what pitchfork WAS before Ryan Schreiber handed the keys to conde nast and they went all in suckling the Big Pop teat.
Charles Murphy
September 29, 2023 @ 1:37 pm
When was Josh Gracie’s last alive performance ANYWHERE?? Ole chicklefuck Gracin there oughta shut his mouth. Gracin got lucky on a singing competition. No one would know him except for that one thing. Last I heard from those that have worked as Gracin’s band is Josh cannot run a band, put together a decent, consistent live set and his checks may bounce.
Jared
September 30, 2023 @ 5:28 am
I saw a few weeks ago that he was playing a town festival in Illinois. Before I saw that, you could have told me he retired 10 years ago and I’d have believed you.
Tommy
September 29, 2023 @ 1:52 pm
I’ll ask the obvious here: who the fuck is Josh Gracin? I’ve listened to almost nothing but country most of my life and had to look up the song mentioned in this article.
Is he really bashing Church for not “living the gimmick” 24/7? Most people don’t. But I guess “I was on American idol once” is an easier gimmick to live than most.
Guy talks about Church taking an opportunity to shoot his mouth off, and has subsequently gotten more press than he’s had since whatever the hell song he dropped 20 years ago. The fact that he felt the need to respond tells you that “they can’t play their old high school” really hurt his feelings.
Cool Lester Smooth
September 29, 2023 @ 4:14 pm
Guaranteed that the last graduate of Gracin’s HS who knows his name was born more than 30 years ago.
the pistolero
September 29, 2023 @ 5:17 pm
who the fuck is Josh Gracin?
He was an also-ran on American Idol who had a couple of Top-10 hits and one No. 1 in the mid-2000s but not a lot other than that.
Redneck_rainman
September 30, 2023 @ 6:46 pm
He had a #1 in 2005 with “Nothing To Lose” and had three additional top 10s between 2004 and 2008 with “I Want To Live”, “Stay With Me (Brass Bed)”, and “We Weren’t Crazy”
Shan
September 29, 2023 @ 2:16 pm
Josh freakin Gracin. While we’re making ad hominem attacks – respectfully, Josh, the fact that your comments even surfaced at all is a testament to the Mariana Trench-esque depth of this site’s coverage and nothing more.
And mentioning Two Pink Lines just reminded me how good that song is.
Strait
September 29, 2023 @ 2:38 pm
The same Eric Church who refuses to have pedal steel on his songs?
He’s just a pseudo country / yacht dad rock guy who relies heavily on playing cover songs.
Nadia Lockheart
September 29, 2023 @ 3:42 pm
Church hasn’t even released a cover as a single to date.
Are you sure you’re not confusing Eric Church with the Zac Brown Band here?
Strait
September 29, 2023 @ 4:48 pm
His live shows and live albums are chocked full of cover songs,
Nadia Lockheart
September 29, 2023 @ 5:24 pm
That’s simply not true.
I was just glancing at some recent setlists of his because your comment did pique my curiosity, and he’s averaging fewer than two covers per show.
He appears to be covering Little Feat’s “Sailin’ Shoes” at each show presently, and he has also covered Pearl Jam’s “Better Man” and The Band’s “Ophelia” at recent individual shows. But he is averaging less than two covers per show and, if anything, his setlists are chock-full of his non-single originals.
Strait
September 29, 2023 @ 7:14 pm
I could be wrong. I remember listening to his 4 disk live album and it had a lot of covers. And what I saw from him 6+ years ago consisted of lots of covers.
Maybe I am just salty because every time I wear aviators someone says that I look like him. lol
Derek
September 30, 2023 @ 6:49 am
His 61 Days In Church set does have quite a few covers. It is made of recordings from each show of his Holdin’ My Own tour. So if you listen to that collection as a representation of a single show it would give the impression that he mixes in lots of covers at each show.
Nadia Lockheart
September 30, 2023 @ 4:12 pm
Yeah, I’m not sure if he had a more narrow original-to-cover ratio earlier on in his career or not.
And it’s certainly easy to listen to a live compilation/box set and be left with the impression that covers are a foremost concern in live setlists. But it appears selections were culled from a bunch of different tour stops, and it’s common for entertainers to designate individual cover songs specifically to the city they’re playing in and which other beloved musical icons are based there (for example, honoring Prince in Minneapolis, honoring Al Green or Booker T. Jones in Memphis, honoring Stevie Wonder or The Temptations in Detroit, etc.)
That said, there’s definitely a wide original-to-cover ratio in Church’s shows compared to most A and B-listers. The Zac Brown Band are obviously the worst offenders when it comes to narrow original-to-cover song ratios: especially considering the band has fifteen #1 hits (fourteen at country, one at hard rock) under their belt and another several Top Ten hits on top of that, so there’s hardly any reason for them to lean on covers anyway.
Like, it would at least be more understandable if it were an entertainer who only had two or three #1 hits and wasn’t a critical darling like, say, Dylan Scott or Parmalee………….to pad their live set with covers because, after all, they’ve got nothing else so I can’t necessarily fault them for leaning on them as a “get out of jail free card”.
Cap’n B
September 29, 2023 @ 4:36 pm
Saw him Saturday night and can confirm that there was only one cover, Little Feat “Sailin’ Shoes”.
Nadia Lockheart
September 29, 2023 @ 5:44 pm
Yeah, I’m not sure what Strait’s remark was based on. He’s averaging fewer than two covers per show. If anything, Church’s original-to-cover ratio is wider compared to most A and B-listers.
StraitOuttaNashville
September 29, 2023 @ 3:05 pm
Probably the biggest Church fan that will comment here, seen him 11 times since 2008. What he said is truth, but Church does have the tendency to dump on his fellow contemporaries, which is not always fair or kind. As for Josh Gracin, I don’t agree with his assessment completely but I will hold my tongue. I have a lot of respect for any American willing to serve and fight for our freedoms, one of which is to even be typing in these comments. ????????
Cap’n B
September 29, 2023 @ 3:21 pm
I feel like a large number of people are misunderstanding what Church was getting at (judging by the comments on this article over at Facebook). His comment about artists not being able to play their own high school to me sounds like he’s referring to artists like a Dustin Lynch, Mitchell Tenpenny, Russell Dickerson, etc. who most people probably wouldn’t have ever even heard of if not for radio airplay. From a quick Google search, I see that Church has 11 number one singles while Lynch has 8, which is baffling to me considering I personally can’t name but maybe one of Lynch’s songs.
Church has obviously benefited from radio play and it’s certainly helped his career, but I can also go to a Church show and know that the setlist will consist of at least half, if not more, of the set being album cuts that have never received radio play, with people still singing along to every word (the majority of his best stuff isn’t even his singles, anyway). I would argue that’s not the case for ‘most’ of “mainstream” country artists.
Maybe I’m wrong, just my two cents.
Maybe I’m wrong, just my two cents.
Ryan
September 29, 2023 @ 4:11 pm
Took the words right of my mouth, couldn’t agree more especially about his set list. Fans are just as if not more excited to hear sinners like me, lightning, these boots, Carolina, than drink in my hand, Talladega, etc.
Cap’n B
September 29, 2023 @ 6:37 pm
Agreed. I always go into a show of his wondering what kind of surprise “deep track” I might get that night. I could honestly do without hearing Drink in My Hand altogether but glad he’s most recently put a new spin on the song that differs somewhat from what we’re used to.
Country Charley Crockett's Butter
September 29, 2023 @ 4:22 pm
Russell Dickerson begs to differ. His 4 consecutive #1 songs were all well earned & deserved
olboyoutlawhandsomebradyjr
September 29, 2023 @ 4:43 pm
First of all,how DO you launch your own radio station ? (Wouldn’t mind giving it a go,but with my boyish good looks at age 70,I’ve got a TV-friendly face.)
E.C. (wonder how many folk call him E.C.?) is 100% right about the declining importance of Country radio to an artist’s success.Perhaps now there’ll be more female and racialized (as we call POC here in Canada) artists,as well as LGBTQAI artists.At long last,the genre may become more than a straight white male preserve .
David:The Duke of Everything
September 29, 2023 @ 8:03 pm
Personally I see truth in both of their statements. I liked churchs stuff early but mostly his later stuff seems just not that good to me. Church is right about the radio part but he didn’t need to put the other part in there. Might be he wasn’t talking about Gracin who I don’t even know or remember but who is to say for sure. Church just can’t help being a douche. A person I know went to his last concert here where I live and at the end he just walked off the stage, no thank you, no encore, no nothing. Now maybe that doesn’t happen much with his shows but shouldn’t happen all, at least learn to fake it. Heck if he had to run to take a crap, he could have been yelling thank you, thank you as he was running off.
VernTobyTrace
September 29, 2023 @ 9:48 pm
Well, in the glory days of the 90’s the artists with records deals and radio play were the real deal. Polished artists with hits, charisma and live performance ability..
If Zach Bryan put out his garbage song and tried to get signed off his trash ass out of tune singing the Nashville execs would have laughed there asses off and then kicked him back to his daddy’s trailer where he belongs.
Corncaster
October 1, 2023 @ 10:21 am
Different times.
90s country came after 80s arena rock, when the 80s kids started working and settling down. Country hit a multi-generational sweet spot.
The radio filter system wasn’t irrelevant yet, streaming wasn’t invented yet, and young people weren’t paying $4.00 gas, told to put on a mask, polarize, hate each other, and STFU.
Zach Bryan speaks to the DIY peopke who live in the ruins. Take the 90s executive perspective and toss it in the can. That era is dead and gone. The media environment has changed, and the middle class audience for Garth Inc. is being ground down.
I think we’re re-entering a period of very local DIY music, which is a great and good thing.
At the Global level, you’ll have your lowest common denominator, and it will suck.
trevistrat
October 2, 2023 @ 4:57 am
THIS. Oliver Anthony will be playing Siverados in Black Mountain this month. The show sold out in three days. Blackberry Smoke hasn’t been able to sell the place out. DIY is the next thing.
Scott S.
September 30, 2023 @ 5:52 am
I like some of Church’s music, don’t care for much of it, but you got to hand it to him. Church has never really strayed to far from a mainstream sound, and has enjoyed the backing of radio and a label pretty much his whole career, Yet he has managed to portray himself as an outsider outlaw gathering fans from both the mainstream and independent fans.
Church has to know he is entering the stage of his career where radio and record labels put artists out to pasture. What better time to go on the offensive. Won’t be surprised if he eventually makes some sort of announcement about going independent as an act of rebellion instead of letting the labels unceremoniously release him.
Church is a smart guy. Using his outsider image to parlay support for rebelling against radio to launch the next phase of his career would be a smart move.
SixtyThreeGuild
September 30, 2023 @ 8:42 am
Thos goes back to the old saying “throw a rock into a pack of dogs and the one that yelps is the one you hit” as the ones mad at Church’s comments are the ones hit by the truth of the words.
Sam Cody
September 30, 2023 @ 9:22 am
Didn’t this douchebag fuck over his own fans to go watch some sports ball game? Who cares what he thinks about anything?
Di Harris
September 30, 2023 @ 5:51 pm
^
WuK
September 30, 2023 @ 9:58 am
Quite simply, Eric Church is right. Country radio or any radio almost seems an irrelevance these days and I rarely listen to it. Josh Gracin was a one hit wonder and I am sure not many remember him or his songs. Most will know and remember Church. A great artist.
Blair
September 30, 2023 @ 12:17 pm
Outlaw You by Shooter called Church out and the music industry awhile ago. Church is just saying what Shooter was saying about him.
Bruce Bremer
October 1, 2023 @ 7:40 am
It’s show business. All smoke and mirrors in pursuit of $$$. I expect nothing more, nothing less.
robbushblog
October 1, 2023 @ 9:30 pm
Eric Church. Not a fan. He seems like a phony to me. I think I like maybe 2 of his songs.
Josh Gracin. I forgot he even existed.
Fat Freddy's Cat
October 2, 2023 @ 5:35 am
I am not familiar with Eric Church and I can’t speak to his music or his character, but what he’s saying about the music industry (and not just country music) seems right to me. (Granted I’m a Boomer so that may negate my opinion for some folks.)
I’m not naive and I don’t expect the music business (or any business) to meet my idea of what’s fair. But given that they’re always complaining about how hard a time they’re having I wonder if their business model isn’t leaving money on the table. They might consider that there are more music listeners–music buyers–out here than just 16 year old TikTokers.
Pam Hosterman
October 2, 2023 @ 10:11 pm
Church was such a disappointment at our local Country Summer concert this past June, 45 minutes late to stage and didn’t want to sing his crowd pleasing songs. Took him off my playlists and don’t care to hear anything new he has.
Lukas Kam
October 3, 2023 @ 1:18 am
I just saw Luke Combs play in front of 15 thousand, (49 Winchester opened for him and killed it), in Stockholm, Sweden. Now, Luke Combs is as mainstream you get BUT I can tell you, there is no country music playing on the mainstream radio over here. The biggest stations have probably never played a single song from him. The press mostly didn’t write a single thing about him selling out the arena before the show because they don’t know about country music. In the Swedish “mainstream press” it went by pretty silent because they are clueless.
It’s all streaming and people just listening to music that they themselves like that matters nowadays. It’s more genuine. Luke didn’t had to that much pr to sell out his tour in Europe.
WestvilleSound
October 3, 2023 @ 11:15 am
Eric Church content is always polarizing. And what I’ve found is that his detractors usually conflate commercial success with lack of authenticity. The reason he has been so successful commercially is because he was an authentic voice in a sea of puppets. He’s written almost all of his songs and he very clearly is not relying on radio for his success. If he were, he’d have put out 12 Carolinas instead of experimenting with a new sound in each subsequent record.
Is he 100% real country (whatever that means)? Probably not. But I wouldn’t consider him to be pop, at least no more than I would consider John Mellencamp to be pop. And I wouldnt consider him bro country. Even his party anthems like Drinkn in my Hand or Smoke a little Smoke use substances as a coping mechanism which is a layer that is missing in most standard tailgate, solo cup, daisy Duke bro country. In fact, thematically, he’s been as country as anyone else people deem canonical to modern country.
Sinners, Chief, Misunderstood remain some of the strongest albums top to bottom that I’ve heard in the last 20 years or so.
But more to the point of this article, he’s right. And that’s difficult to hear for people who lacked the spirit or creativity to make it without a big label maneuvering the strings.
Jimmy
October 3, 2023 @ 9:11 pm
“But more to the point of this article, he’s right. And that’s difficult to hear for people who lacked the spirit or creativity to make it without a big label maneuvering the strings.”
Church does make some good points, but he would have never made without a big label maneuvering the strings, as you say.
Jimmy
October 3, 2023 @ 9:20 pm
I like a lot of Church’s early music. When he came out, he was such a humble guy, but success and his over-inflated sense of self-importance turned him into an insufferable prick. He bought into his own hype and became caricature of himself. He has always surrounded himself with great musicians and songwriters, he didn’t do it all by himself (or without the power and money of a major label). His whole outlaw persona is contrived and as fake as Garth Brooks’ humble man persona.