Hayley Williams vs. Morgan Wallen, and Understanding Lower Broadway

There’s been some positive news from the Lower Broadway Entertainment District in Nashville recently, at least if you care about some of the cool spots still located down there in between all the terrible establishments named after douchebag mainstream country stars.
After waiting for over three years for any news about the reopening of the Ernest Tubb Record Shop, they recently unveiled a new, refurbished sign, and say the establishment will celebrate a grand re-opening at some point this fall. The historic business and building will now include a 4-story bar and venue, but the new owners have also been soliciting for a new record shop manager recently, so that means vinyl will be part of the revamped property.
Some were sad to learn that the long-running Jack’s Bar-B-Que just beside Robert’s Western World, or “The Home of Traditional Country Music” on Lower Broadway was closing. But then this week, we got the good news that neighbors JesseLee Jones and wife Emily Ann Jones will be the new owners of the property located at 416A Broadway. In fact, Robert’s is located at 416B, and at one point the two properties were connected. Now the plan is to reunite them again, and expand Robert’s to a third floor eventually.
Jack’s Bar-B-Que, just like Robert’s, is given credit for revitalizing the entertainment corridor after it had gone abandoned in large part, and overrun by pawn shops and dirty bookstores in the late ’80s into the early ’90s when the Ryman Auditorium (a.k.a. The “Mother Church of Country Music”) was shuttered after the Grand Ole Opry moved east of downtown. Now Robert’s will have the space to rival the other major establishments on Lower Broadway in the coming years.
More about the plans for the expanded Robert’s Western World and re-opening of the Ernest Tubb Record Shop when that info becomes available.
But despite all of these positive developments for meaningful and historic properties on Lower Broadway recently, many still see the area as a wasteland of commercialization, only good for separating bachelorettes and their entourages from their expendable income, and entertaining drunk tourists with classic rock covers. Those repulsed by the nightly doings on Lower Broadway apparently include long-time Nashville resident, and front woman for the pop punk/indie rock band Paramore, Hayley Williams.
Williams recently surprise released 17 singles in a solo capacity, with some grouping them together and calling the release Ego. One of the singles, and the one creating the most buzz is called “Ego Death At A Bachelorette Party,” and is sort of a hazy recollection of a Lower Broadway escapade, with Hayley Williams starting off the song by proclaiming, “I’ll be the biggest star at this racist country singer’s bar.”
After repeating the line, Williams goes onto replace “racist country singer’s bar” with “bachelorette party bar” and “f-cking karaoke bar” later in the song. The track is basically a cynical take down of Lower Broadway en masse, with the video shot on location, including in a pedal cab, and Hayley dry humping the Elvis Presley photo op in front of Legend’s Corner.
It really speaks to where we’re at in both country music and American culture when Hayley Williams mentions a “racist country singer’s bar,” and you don’t know exactly who she might mean. Both Morgan Wallen and Jason Aldean own prominent Lower Broadway bars, and both have seen the “racist” accusation land at their feet.
When asked by Stereogum about the song and video, and if there are any good artist-owned bars on Lower Broadway, Hayley Williams responded.
“There’s really no good ones. I don’t have one. My favorite country music artists … yeah no. Pass. Hard pass to all of them. They all have terrible names too. Like when you open a business, you don’t just put your name on it. You come up with something, right? It can have your DNA in it, but I just don’t understand the bars, the names that are just people’s names. So I don’t have a favorite, but I have a lot of beef with all of them.”
When asked if she had a least favorite, Williams answered “Morgan Wallen’s spot, whatever it is.” That is how many are landing on Morgan Wallen being the racist villain in Hayley’s “Ego Death At A Bachelorette Party.”
But what’s unfortunate about the song, video, and Hayley’s portrayal of Lower Broadway is how she paints with such a broad brush, she’s basically lambasting the entire area, while not taking the time to mention somewhere like Robert’s Western World, Layla’s, or some of the other establishments that are doing what they can to keep true, live country music alive in Music City. Some might even call Hayley’s wholesale repudiation of Lower Broadway the same kind of bigotry she’s accusing Morgan Wallen of.
Sure, the ire of Williams lands mostly upon the artist-named bars, but even the recently-opened Chief’s by Eric Church has become an important hub for up-and-coming artists who want to play Lower Broadway, or who happen to be touring through Nashville. Ashley McBryde just announced a mocktail bar at the location for sober individuals who still like to have a good time. Dolly Parton just opened a wine bar inside the Assembly Food Hall. Alan Jackson’s bar is one of the better locations as well. So not all of the artists represented on Lower Broadway are of ill repute.
The video for Hayley’s “Ego Death At A Bachelorette Party” concludes at the legendary Santa’s Pub south of downtown. As she’s singing “this f-cking karaoke bar…” you see shots from the place where the Ice Cold Pickers have backed up independent country greats like Logan Ledger, Kristina Murray, and Luke Bell over the years, and has been an important proving ground for true country talent on Sunday nights.
Hayley Williams and Paramore have released some great music over the years. They’ve also released some rather saccharine, vapid music too. But the band’s big single from their last album “This Is Why” really helped encapsulate the madness, paranoia, and isolation of the pandemic and cancel culture era in the United States that tore at people’s mental health, and the fabric of society itself. The song seemed purposeful and message-driven, while also being wise and self-aware.
“Ego Death At A Bachelorette Party” doesn’t feel that way. It feels like anger gettinmg the better of an artist, and judgemental. Is Morgan Wallen really a “racist”? He’s definitely plenty stupid, and was caught on a Ring doorbell in 2021 using the N-word. Granted, he basically used it in the parlance of a common hip-hop lyric, and among friends as opposed to in anger at someone. Before and after, Wallen has commonly collaborated with Black hip-hop artists, and is probably more influenced by hip-hop than country in his music. That’s not exactly the mark of a racist.
That’s not to excuse Morgan Wallen’s actions whatsoever. What he did was ignorant and irresponsible. Morgan Wallen opened up country music to a severe level of criticism and scrutiny that here four years later, it’s still facing. And that doesn’t even begin to mention the scores of other Wallen incidents, including nearly braining two police officers by hurling a deck chair off the top of Eric Church’s aforementioned Chief’s—an offense Wallen was initially charged with two felonies for.
But a lot of people love to hate on Lower Broadway without context or qualifiers. Really, it’s kind of it’s own cliché at this point. And yes, the mainstream country douchebag bars and the clientele they attract can be nauseating. The traffic and parking is a nightmare. And the bachelorette parties rolling by on their pedal taverns belching out De Leppard are about as repulsive as it gets.
But drive across the United States some time. You roll through town after town where downtown has been completely hollowed out and abandoned. Go to the upper Midwest where so many post industrial towns have absolutely no cultural districts to speak of. Think of how Lower Broadway was in 1983 when Jason and the Scorchers recorded their video for “Absolutely Sweet Marie” when it was hookers and dirty bookstores, and they threw a punk concert in the shuttered Mother Church.
Think of Iris Dement’s song “Our Town” about the communities all across America that are no more. The equivalent of Lower Broadway in Austin, TX is 6th Street, which is still struggling to recover post pandemic, and is only coming to life because comedy clubs are now opening in spots that used to house live music.
Yeah, Lower Broadway in Nashville sucks … mostly. What used to be a cool, hip place revitalized by post punk neotraditionalists has now become country music’s version of Disney World. But even Jason Isbell took the time to tribute one the cool places down there with the song “Ride To Robert’s” off his last album Foxes in the Snow, and Isbell doesn’t think too kindly of Morgan Wallen either.
At some point in the video for Hayley’s song, she’s seen scribbling “I Still Believe in Nashville.” Then believe and support the places that illustrate Nashville at its best.
Hate on Lower Broadway all you want. But if you really want to make a difference about how that area is evolving, steer people to the places down there that are still doing it right, that act like beacons of true artistic expression in a region where they need to be heard the most, that are proving grounds for important talent, and are beating back the wave of gentrification and commercialization to keep the true spirit of live music alive in the heart of Music City.
Because it’s never fair to stereotype, whether you’re a racist, or attempting to fight against it.
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August 7, 2025 @ 7:52 am
Another famous singer (in the past) releases new music and casually attacks Morgan Wallen (remember Lana Del Rey and her “I kissed Morgan Wallen…”), the biggest selling artist in the US since 2021. Obviously, their goal is to go viral to push their new music into the charts, and they’re hoping for a response from him (which will never come).
August 7, 2025 @ 9:19 am
I dont want to sound like im defending her cause what shes done here is ridiculously stupid and i could care less if i ever see her mentioned again but Hayley Williams just opened up for Taylor Swift on her massive tour so i don’t think she’s calling anyone out trying to get them to respond. She’s big enough on her own.
August 7, 2025 @ 9:32 am
I agree Rusty. I don’t think this was an attempt to gain attention to herself necessarily. These singles Hayley released were in sort of side project form, crudely produced. I take the moment more as an emotional outburst.
August 8, 2025 @ 3:21 pm
Were Hayley’s comments respectful to Morgan and Jason? To their fans? Delete the profanity, but I stand by my comments about her and won’t apologize for it. You call someone names like she did, you get it back. You treat people like trash, people are going to treat you the same. I don’t apologize at all, trigger. I stand by my comments and won’t back down from them.
If someone literally calls someone a racist without evidence that’s going to cause a powder keg.
I would say that to Hayley’s face if I saw her. I stand by all of what I said.
All of it
August 7, 2025 @ 9:37 am
last hit song of hayley was 10-15 years ago
August 7, 2025 @ 8:02 pm
With all due respect, and as Rusty mentioned, Hayley Williams hardly needs the exposure. Easy to forget (somehow) that Paramore is a multi-platinum selling act with 11 Billboard Hot 100 hits (including five Top 40 singles). Hayley’s solo material is certainly not released with the goal of widespread commercial success and she makes no pretense about that.
August 7, 2025 @ 9:05 pm
No one is saying she is a nobody. The contention is she is not related to country music at all, has no affinity for it, nor any respect for it.
Her claims about broadway are ridiculous. Where has she been the last few years? Broadway has been the spot for years, kicking up the last few especially. Where was she in 2022? Broadway girls literally mentions Aldeans bar. Where was she?
I don’t think pop punk pink haired sjws are big time customers on Nashville anyway. Why would you as a commie Marxist travel to literally the epicenter of red state America and biblical and conservative values? Further once there why would you complain that the neighborhood is literally just that: a neighborhood that represents the rural and blue collar marginalized, and not the woke Olympics type she touts. The real ones.
There is also a clear distinction between multi platinum success and the success of Morgan Wallen or Zach Bryan or Luke combs, but in this case specifically Morgan. Paramore were never the biggest pop punk band ever in their career let alone the face of modern music for 4 or 5 years running like Morgan. Paramore don’t draw stadium crowds nor do they have the passionate and diverse crowd Morgan draws. Which is ironic. Morgan has a more diverse, racially diverse, crowd than paramore, Isbell or maren morris. Yet she claims he racist? Bullshit.
The claim is that she is trying to get relevance. Which is accurate. Pop punk and that sort of style she has isn’t popular in 2025. Morgan’s tours outsell her and paramores tours. The only reason that would be muddied would be she was opening for Taylor. But that’s a clear case of opener glomming onto headliner for a fanbase. Taylor was the headliner for a reason, this despite paramore essentially being elder statesmen/women to Taylor.
She isn’t relevant in modern music, nor is she at all relevant in country music especially. She wants attention. And the music isn’t hitting anymore so she used her woke card. Instead of promoting 9th month abortions and drag queen story hour she decided to weigh in on bars that bring in more money on a weekend than she ever will on a weekend.
We don’t exist to gawk at, we are real people, with real stories, all brought together by the power of country music. If that means we have lower Broadway, so be it. Everyone should visit.
August 7, 2025 @ 9:44 pm
Setting aside your apparent preoccupation with dragging this comments section into a red-blue war—though I will note that this non-pink haired Republican has seen Paramore live multiple times— I have to push back on a few of your points.
First, Hayley has lived in Nashville for as long as I can remember. The attempt here and elsewhere in the comments section to paint her as an outsider is just unfounded.
Second, I encourage you to do some research into the voting patterns of Nashville, including in the 2024 presidential election, and see if you still think it is the epicenter of conservative values. The city is, like most major urban areas in America, decidedly to the left of the political spectrum and a very safe D constituency.
Third, what are your sources for crowd diversity statistics? Have you collected this data yourself? Are you relying on some kind of crowd analysis technology? Or could you just be saying things to say them?
Fourth, I concede that Morgan is (one of) the face(s) of Music in 2025. Again, I don’t think that Hayley Williams, at this point in her career, is really after relevancy. Last time that Paramore toured as headliners, they did not play stadium shows like Morgan does—but they did headline Boston Calling, ACL, and When We Were Young, all festivals with tens of thousands of attendees. As for her solo stuff, it largely reads to me like a passion project moreso than it does a commercial relevancy grab.
Fifth, I also agree that a great deal of left-wing media, celebrities, and political elites look down on right-of-center voters, many of whom live in Middle America (and, actually, many more of whome live in urban areas) and paint them very broadly as racists, ignorant, uneducated, and heartless. I do question whether Morgan Wallen helps or hurts the cause.
August 8, 2025 @ 9:15 am
I’ll address a few points here.
1. Yes I know cities are more liberal than rural areas. Nashville is a city, a huge city, so big shocker it’s liberal. That said Tennessee itself is a red state. They elect conservatives. And beyond that this only reinforces my main point. Aldean isn’t some liberal. Yet he chose Nashville as the spot for his bar. I don’t think he’s hurting for money at that bar, and most people not named Hayley who are liberal country fans either skip out on visiting the bar or go and ignore the politics and have fun! Country music is conservative as a whole whether you talk about some unknown backroad in rural Alabama, or the mainstreets of Atlanta or Tennessee. Country is its fans and artists, the location doesn’t impact this part of the discussion. The argument was that Broadway and its inhabitants or patrons are overall conservative and this is accurate. You think Aldean would set up shop in a liberal haven? Get the fuck out of here, bro.
2. Do I have statistics for saying Morgan is more diverse crowd wise than paramore, no I don’t. I don’t run a polling firm. So you too, if you push back on this would be engaging in speculation as well. Unless you are running a polling firm yourself. Are you?
My statements are based on basic math. He isn’t A face of the genre he is THE face. No one in the genre outsells him nor have they for the last 4 or 5 years. He’s clearly our superstar giant right now, and a behemoth in the genre the likes of which we’ve never seen in many years. Anytime
Any artists gets as big as he does, 2nd biggest artist in music overall, you have a diverse crowd of all shapes and sizes. The rap element also plays a huge role as I said. He incorporates rap cadences into the songs, he is almost like a rap country guy in a sense. That’s going to be welcoming to people who are into rap in a way other country artists aren’t.
If you are the 2nd biggest artist in music overall not just country, and you compare him to a medium sized pop punk band who are significant magnitude less popular and more niche, yeah I do think the crowds will be more diverse at Morgan. Morgan is more popular, simple math suggests he is gaining a more diverse crowd.
Third, she absolutely is an outside to THE GENREz. She doesn’t make country music, doesn’t champion it, has never talked about it, nor has she shown a love for it or being an advocate for traditional country being overrun by commercial artists or anything. Country music isn’t featured in her music, she doesn’t mention it in interviews or press. She doesn’t reference any country artists in song or style. All that would lead me to believe she doesn’t enjoy the genre and doesn’t listen to it. All that leads me to a startling and shocking conclusion: she as an outsider should shut the fuck up about country because it’s none of her concern. If you don’t make country music, don’t consume it, don’t care about it, don’t care about the history of it, don’t make it a point to speak out about it, then you are an outsider and your comments and statements about it are not wanted nor are they useful. They are total bullshit.
If the argument is she’s upset about the commercialization of Broadway, where’s the evidence of that? Where’s the evidence of her in 2015 or 2021 or 2013 speaking out about it or mentioning country music? When broadway really started going nuts after broadway girls where was she speaking out about the commercialization? She didn’t say a fucking peep! Where was she? This supposed source of all things country?
Lots of things have happened both good and bad in the genre since paramores rise yet she’s never spoken about any of it. Never mentioned an album she enjoys, a band or artist . Never mentioned the mother church. Never mentioned Tubb and record store. Never mentioned the hall of fame. Never mentioned cash. None of it.
So yeah I feel confident in saying she’s an absolute outsider. I don’t give a flying fuck what she says. She’s a loony white wonan feminist who voted Harris.
You and I agree for the most part part about your point 5. A lot of all this comes down to resentment. Left wingers resent conservatives in the genre and overall, and those artists then make art about that resentment and resent those left coast liberal types. I agree a lot of this is a reaction to that. Morgan’s SNL appearance was a clear example of that. He gave a fuck you to those people. And we cheered him when he did. SNL doesn’t give a fuck about rural conservatives, they exist as a source of ridicule and mockery to that show and its fans. So yeah resentment and anger plays a huge role.
August 8, 2025 @ 11:53 am
Fifth, I also agree that a great deal of left-wing media, celebrities, and political elites look down on right-of-center voters, many of whom live in Middle America (and, actually, many more of whom live in urban areas) and paint them very broadly as racists, ignorant, uneducated, and heartless.
Like I said earlier, said people have to change how they are perceived not just by said celebrities, but also by the rest of the planet too, including their northern neighbours, and accept what is going on now as far as change is concerned, or the United States is going to suffer a lot more than decreased tourism from abroad: it will become an outcast state. Hag Possum Lefty’s right about being on the right side of history – it’s high time for them to do so.
August 8, 2025 @ 5:56 am
Are they still eating the pets in Ohio? Get a clue, and ask yourself why Big Daddy isn’t releasing the list. The very last thing this comments section needs, is the prototypical low-information porch-flag-cult “expert” spewing AM-radio talkshow catch phrases.
You are triggering, and desperately trying to make yourself feel better about how you’ll be on the wrong side of history forever. Wallen and Aldean aren’t popular because they’re country, they’re popular because they are basically grade-school-level singalongs for morons, and America is only 30% moron, by weight.
August 8, 2025 @ 7:43 am
Take your politics out of this, there’s nothing political mentioned anywhere here until you try to poison a conversation around music with the bullshit that the rest of us are here to escape from.
August 8, 2025 @ 9:30 am
So you see no one political angle here at all?
Sorry dude, but the Tyler article and triggers being forced to write a second one about the reaction all were very much about politics. The album boiled down to how you voted and I can tell you if you enjoy the album.
Most albums don’t involve politics. And most times it isn’t mentioned.
But I’m sorry, when a very political artist criticizes the bars of a bunch of artists who don’t share her politics, politics being the reason for the hatred, at the very least could be a reason right? I mean we are adults here . Maybe Morgan and Aldean did something shady business wise to her. Or they don’t pay good wages and she heard about it. But at the very least; in this instance, politics has to at least be considered, right? Let’s be honest.
Trigger didn’t mention politics on his article as a possible reason. That was irresponsible because it’s a possible reason just like the reasons he listed. I don’t think the state of lower Broadway and whether it’s commercialized at night keeps Hayley up at night, so what other reason would she have for her animus?
If you told me Bailey Zimmerman and Hudson Westbrook got in a fight of course politics wouldn’t be brought up. They aren’t overtly political and don’t really bring up politics at all.
But Hayley and Jason Aldean and Morgan Wallen having a tiff? I’m fucking absolutely thinking politics could have played a role. Are you fucking high?
August 8, 2025 @ 11:27 am
Paramore were never the biggest pop punk band ever in their career let alone the face of modern music for 4 or 5 years running like Morgan.
The big reason for that? Mainstream non-country radio playing nothing but oldies and pop music all of the time, deadening people’s minds. Actual non-countryartists like this young lady who really have something to say are now being pushed to the margins for real-time good pop, oldies, and country, so it isn’t all her or on her. A lot of it is due to what Clinton did to radio and TV in 1996 with his stupid new Telecommunications Act (more on that here: https://www.avclub.com/the-telecommunications-act-of-1996-gave-us-shitty-cell-1798250823).
As for the subject of this post/piece, perception determines reality, and if this place in Nashville and the people who live and work in it don’t want to be perceived as what this lady’s described them as, they need to work at not being what she accused them of in her song, and enlighten others to also do the same of countering the neo-fascism now existing in the U.S. in (of all years, too) 2025.
August 8, 2025 @ 11:45 am
1. I’m not in high school anymore, so profanity isn’t cool and edgy anymore.
2. How on Earth is my questioning YOUR sources for a claim YOU made “speculation” on my part? That is just not how burden of proof works.
3. If you’re going to comment with such authority and self-assuredness, at least know what you’re talking about. Paramore has performed at least three times at the Ryman, and Hayley Williams has covered “You Ain’t Woman Enough” in her live shows. None of that makes her a country artist with deep ties to the genre, but to say that she has “never mentioned the mother church” or that she doesn’t “care about the history of [country music]” is not completely fair.
August 8, 2025 @ 2:56 pm
Just because you say something is so doesn’t make it so, my dude. Hayley has absolutely no connection to country music nor a reverence or respect for the genre. If you call someone a racist as she did, you best provide evidence. As she never did. She doesn’t care about the history, just because she was offered gigs at the opry doesn’t mean she gives a fuck about it or country’s history. She’s a pro abortion asshole who’d rather talk shit about artists who are more successful off one album than she’ll ever be even if she works in the industry for another 30 years. Nothing in her comments suggests she has a deep and loving relationship with country music or its history in the slightest. Her playing the opry has no bearing at all in it.
She could play meridian, doesn’t mean she gives a shit about Jimmie Rodgers.
She’s a bullshit artist.
I don’t need to provide my sources. You made the claim she has a more diverse audience than Morgan. I said that’s bullshit. And you refused to elaborate. Where are your sources for the claim, my friend? If you make a claim like paramore draws more of a diverse crowd than Morgan fucking Wallen, in 2025, you are out of your fucking mind, asshole.
Leave me alone. Stop bothering me. Back off.
August 8, 2025 @ 3:14 pm
Country Fan,
We’re not saying “fuck you” to people. We’re not calling women “fucking bitches.” Say your peace, but do it with respect, or your comments are going to get censored or deleted.
August 8, 2025 @ 3:51 pm
Country Fan,
I made no claims about crowd diversity. I understand it is a little bit hard to keep track of your rantings and ravings, but the crowd diversity debate started with your claim, which you continue to refuse to back up.
I didn’t say anything about Opry gigs, but it is true that Paramore has played the Opry House in addition to the Ryman. I’m certain a Country Fan such as yourself is not confusing the two venues.
The level of anger, vitriol, profanity, and overall hostility you have displayed in this comments section is genuinely concerning. Whatever the reason for your hyperdefensiveness around Democrats and leftists, I assure you that lashing out at them will only serve to reinforce their points and lashing out at fellow Republicans will only serve to further isolate you.
August 8, 2025 @ 4:40 pm
We just disagree. He has the more diverse crowd. He’s the better artist. Hayley is just a bitter gross leftist. Who makes bitter and gross music. I hate her music. Every note of it. Every song. Every album. I can’t think of a single artist I dislike more, to be honest.
I don’t like her music. If she wants a diverse crowd she should make quality music. I can’t think of single verse of hers I even like.
Can you feel Morgan in the air like a ghost, who does Hayley see when her eyes are closed?
He’s laughing all the way to the bank.
Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind, as they say!
August 12, 2025 @ 8:36 am
Three points:
1. Hayley never calls out specific musicians in the song itself. The author of this post calls out the lyrical target of specific musicians is speculation. Hayley is also allowed to have an opinion, and unfortunately, so do folks Internet that can decipher speculation from a literal name-drop in a song.
2. Hayley has her solo project AND Hayley is the lead singer of the *band* Paramore. In 2024, Paramore won a Grammy for best rock album in 2024 (“This Is Why”) & Best Alternative Music Performance for the album’s title track. The band was formed in Franklin, TN. Don’t confuse her solo project with the very successful 20+ year career of Paramore.
3. You don’t have to like her music. I’m sure the band and Hayley herself recognizes the universal fact that folks have personal preferences. Her band has done just fine despite your distaste.
We all have opinions, but it’s best when opinions are created using literal facts about the matter, as opposed to emotional triggers 🤷🏻♀️
August 12, 2025 @ 8:52 am
For the record, the tying of the song to Morgan Wallen comes from Hayley’s interview about the song with Stereogum. This is all enumerated in detail in the article. Also, the ambiguity of the target of the song in some respects is part of the issue. As is said in the article, there are numerous artists that could be the target. That not only speaks to where we are in country music and society at the moment, this risks creating collateral damage to artists who happen to own bars on Lower Broadway, and don’t like Morgan Wallen any more than Hayley Williams does.
August 7, 2025 @ 7:54 am
We need a Phil Collins bar downtown. His song titles read like a list of great bar names. “In The Air Tonight”, “Don’t Lose My Number”, “One More Night”, “No Jacket Required”…let’s make it happen.
August 7, 2025 @ 9:56 am
Can you imagine the crowd at ‘One More Night’? Surreal…
August 7, 2025 @ 1:24 pm
Have to be under 5′ 2″ to enter.
August 7, 2025 @ 6:48 pm
I sometimes spend my time downtown in the alley behind the Ryman. A few cold beers and I’m seeing ol Hank and Patsy and others crossing the alley from the Ryman into the back entrance of Tootie’s and wishing I’d been around back then. They say walls have stories in them and so do alleys, you know?
August 11, 2025 @ 11:54 am
How long are you back there? It smells real bad.
August 11, 2025 @ 1:30 pm
I never worry about ghosts when I’m stepping over vomit.
August 7, 2025 @ 1:28 pm
“Easy Lover”!!!
August 7, 2025 @ 3:50 pm
“You never know who’s looking on..
The perfect body,
With the perfect face..
Mmm,hmm.
August 8, 2025 @ 5:45 am
“Behind the lines”… You get more than just drinks here…🤭
August 7, 2025 @ 7:59 am
Trigger do you honestly believe “Some might even call Hayley’s wholesale repudiation of Lower Broadway the same kind of bigotry she’s accusing Morgan Wallen of.” is true?
Someone not liking bars in a city is not the same level of bigotry (or any form of bigotry) as saying racial slurs on video.
August 7, 2025 @ 8:41 am
Morgan Wallen very well might be a racist and a bigot, but I have no evidence of that. All I have is evidence to the contrary, including what he was caught on camera saying. No self-respecting racist would ever make himself so obsequious to the Black-dominated hip-hop music that Morgan Wallen has, and then proliferate that influence through their own music, or get caught publicly or privately uttering a phrase that is common parlance in hip-hop music to the point where it’s the title of numerous hip-hop songs, including from artists Wallen directly cites as influences.
Am I excusing what Morgan Wallen was caught saying in a dystopian, 1984-esque moment where every human interaction is recorded and can be used against you in the court of public opinion? Absolutely not. Clearly, he was ignorant. In other circumstances could it lead one to conclude he might have a predilection towards racism? Sure. But not from a hip-hop star regularly collaborating with Black hip-hop stars larping as a country music artist.
August 7, 2025 @ 8:03 pm
Some might even call using “Some might even call” weasel words and poor form for a professional blog. Overall a fan of this site, but if you want to say something, Trig, say it yourself!
August 7, 2025 @ 10:39 pm
The point attempting to be made there is that saying “ALL” Lower Broadway bars or even “ALL” Lower Broadway establishments named after artists are “no good, Pass. Hard pass to all of them. I have a lot of beef with all of them.” is similar to saying this about a group of people, perhaps based on race. You’re passing a lump judgement on and entire group of something without any distinction based on a preconceived bias.
Am I directly comparing hating Lower Broadway bars with racism? Of course not. But yes, one could say there is a similarity in passing stock judgement. I was using that as a colloquial phrase to purposefully soften the comparison as opposed to trying to connect the two directly. I was not attempting to evade assigning the opinion to myself.
August 8, 2025 @ 9:40 am
agreed. Which is why I brought up politics and the culture war and the fact the people involved in this spat have opposite political views. And that seems to upset people here and it seems to upset you for some reason. You seemed to want people to take your post and riff on how lower broadway has changed. I disagree it’s changed in a bad way, and it’s a huge tourist draw so although maybe nearby residents hate it being a major spot it’s clearly drawing a large amount of people and raking in a ton of money to these bars. Could Hayley be upset about that? Possibly but there is no evidence for that. She hasn’t ever contemplated publicly the supposed awfulness of millions of people flocking to lower broadway before. So my thing was, if commercialization isn’t her concern what is? Which is why I brought up politics. And I would hope you could see why I did. This isn’t a post about baileys new album where politics wouldn’t be brought up. This is a post about a raging political artist whining about the establishment of artists who don’t share he views. Could it not involve politics? Absolutely but it at least has to be considered, right? You didn’t in your article, so we are left to do so in the comments.
I’m trying to piece the facts we have together. The facts are she hates and despises all bars in lower Broadway. Given we can rule out the commercialized nature of it all, what does that leave us with? What would cause an outsider to not just sort of dislike the bars but to have outright disgust and disdain for them?
That’s the reason for all this.
August 7, 2025 @ 8:00 am
Haley Williams is the quintessential affluent Franklin/Brentwood bitter white feminist with no real problems other than the ones she creates in her own mind.
August 8, 2025 @ 6:09 am
God, yes.
Give me Broadway in Nashville (even though that disgusting city has no leadership, whatsoever) over Main Street in Franklin any day at this point. I know both of them too well.
August 7, 2025 @ 8:00 am
Chiefs is the best artist one by far. His residency there was so great.
But Lower Broadway is pretty crazy. If you are over 30, you really should be into it after 10pm.
August 7, 2025 @ 8:02 am
So a classic outsiders aren’t allowed to criticize my thing that I criticize all the time situation.
August 7, 2025 @ 8:17 am
Aside from the pockets of legit music, Broadway is mostly binge drinking and infidelity. I’ve been to Santa’s Pub multiple times and it’s filled with a bunch of East Nashville liberals cosplaying as cowboys.
August 7, 2025 @ 8:33 am
Here come the liberals. They infest everything.
August 7, 2025 @ 8:59 am
I used to really love Paramore. I still youtube the H out of them. I even loved Hailey doing Loretta Lynn. Recent years, (apologizing for lyrics & being all enlightened…) Hay Hay just comes off as a miserable…,well.
August 7, 2025 @ 10:31 am
Lots of their catalog I’ve disliked, but I’ve definitely found some guilty pleasures in the Paramore catalog over the years, and had a generally favorable attitude toward Hayley Williams. I’ve brought her up on numerous occasions on the site. When I heard about this song calling out Morgan Wallen and Lower Broadway, I wanted to like it. But yeah, it just comes across as miserable, angry in a a way that circumvents any thoughtful commentary, and can create collateral damage for the folks on Lower Broadway trying to make a difference.
August 7, 2025 @ 9:04 am
I had my first visit to Nashville last year after some 12 years. It has changed. I am not sure I like all the changes but the City is alive, vibrant and busy. There is good music to be had on Lower Broadway and plenty of choice. I don’t think Hayley William’s comments are to her credit and I disagree with them as I am sure many who know Nashville will. It is a great City.
August 7, 2025 @ 9:39 am
Pure jealousy and pettiness against the biggest usa musical star of the decade whose past 2 albums are the biggest albums of the 21st century and the current one is breaking his own record. Hayley’s last hit song was 10 years ago. Morgan is on another stratosphere
August 7, 2025 @ 10:05 am
I promise you plenty of people can hate Morgan wallen authentically not because they are jealous.
August 10, 2025 @ 7:03 am
Lol but they aren’t the biggest albums of the 21st century and hes not the biggest artist of the decade. Morgan is huge but please stop inflating how big he is.
August 10, 2025 @ 11:08 am
His albums are infinitely more popular than paramores, and they’ve had many years to rack up numbers, so him leapfrogging them in popularity and sales is shocking and speaks to his dominant and how he dwarfs them by magnitudes. They are a footnote in a larger era of pop punk emo bands in which they weren’t even the biggest band in the movement. Morgan is and defines an entire era and scene all on his own. He is modern country, he is the face and figurehead of country right now. He is the most popular country music artists. And he has way more hits than paramore ever did, again with many years for paramore to rack up many many hits, which never materialized.
Anyone minimizing Morgan’s impact in 2025 on not just country music but pop music and pop culture at large is just intentionally trying to troll at this point.
August 14, 2025 @ 8:20 pm
Um they literally are. Google “Billboards top albums of the 21st century”. Dangerous is #1 over Adele’s 21. And One Thing At A Time is #6.
August 7, 2025 @ 10:09 am
Morgan Wallen’s bar looks nice and is described as having fantastic sound. I hope good people play there. No doubt they’ll be mostly pop musicians with drawls.
August 7, 2025 @ 10:19 am
Some thoughts.
Roberts: go in the morning when they open or around noon till 4. After 4, don’t bother. Always good music there. Some less known but terrific acts to check out: Wendy Newcomer Band. Shes top notch and her band is smoking. Grand ole Opry fiddler Ian is in her band. Chris Casello is a red hot tele / steel guy. Timbo is incredibly soulful and has the best legit Tenneessee twang accent ever. Hes a great songwriter as well. Sarah Gayle Meech is also terrific. The premier Roberts band is of course Kellys Heroes. You cant go wrong with them. Royal Hounds are another killer Honky- Tonk band.
Avoid Broadway on Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights. You will hate yourself if you try it. Nowhere to go, no seats, hordes of screaming lunatics, chaos. Nowhere to stand either. Awful.
Laylas and AJs are fine as well, but same hints apply. Hank Jrs Boogie Bar has some good music, there’s a telecaster guy who plays there and he’s made a name for himself pretty quickly. Station Inn is a must do. Acme Feed and Seed can be good depending on who’s there.
Alternatives to Broadway:
If you are more attracted to the hipster folks, go to Zeph Ohoras place Skinny Dennis, at least the musics good. Also Dee’s Country Cocktail Lounge. Same deal, hipster all the way but sometimes great music, Chris Scruggs and the Stone Fox 5 play there.
East Side Bowl on Tuesday nights. The Cowpokes and guests do their thing every week.
If the hipster thing is a turnoff, then go to Nashville Palace and Music City Bar and Grill and Troubador Theater, all across town in the same strip mall, near The Opry. Real deal country music. If your into Haggard, Whitley, Moe Bandy, Strait, Waylon and the like, and music of that style, Music Citys your place. A- list pickers there all the time. Mostly locals go, sometimes bikers, a real true blue collar legit Country crowd. Zero hipster presence. Nashville Palace has good music on Sundays. Similar crowd. Avoid The Palace on Saturday nights, it becomes a 20 something dance club. Troubador theater is a case by case basis, but sometimes they have cool things going on. They host the Midnight Jamboree after The Opry.
Paramore who? Never listened to them. No plans to start. Their opinion is a non- sequitur. I find it interesting that all these rock people move to Nashville because of the music scene, but hate country music, the culture and the people. Go figure.
Morgan Wallens a non- factor in my world so ehhhhh.
That about covers it.
August 7, 2025 @ 12:27 pm
I was never into Paramore but they started in Nashville. I think she started off as Christian or Christian-adjacent and that CCM market is all Nashville. The artists who renounce Christianity or “deconstruct” are always the loudest voices in the culture war. Haley Williams is a talented singer who can do all the running and jumping on stage and sing without needing to lip sync – I do acknoweldge that. (And she’s still super hot. I’ve met her when I worked behind the register in Whole Foods in Brentwood)
August 8, 2025 @ 3:38 pm
Yeah, we all remember when Hayley Williams jumped on the bandwagon and moved to Nashville. (Sarcasm intended.)
August 12, 2025 @ 8:45 am
When she joined the bandwagon andf moved from Meridian, MS to Franklin, TN at the age of 13? lol
August 7, 2025 @ 10:25 am
It should be stated for folks unfamiliar or simply don’t care that Hayley Williams isn’t an “outsider” of Tennessee. She grew up right in Franklin and to my knowledge still resides in Tennessee. Lower Broadway can be quite intense and if you aren’t looking to party hard I always encourage folks to stay clear if possible as Nashville has much to offer outside that Vegas strip. You have written in the past on the capitalization of the Lower Broadway area and how specific historical sites are being abandoned to build more mega bars and restaurants. On one hand your piece seems to be in agreement that Lower Broadway can be trashy and chaotic at times but on the other hand a critique on Hayley for presenting an opinion that’s not exactly controversial for folks who long for the history of country music when they take a trip to Nashville. I was pretty bummed and surprised when my first trip to Nashville the streets were filled like Mardi Gras and I along with my parents were the only attendees at the George Jones museum.
August 7, 2025 @ 10:38 am
Of course but she’s an outsider because most commenters here interpret anybody not right wing as an outsider with no right to an opinion. Even when that opinion is mostly what people on here believe and agree with in other contexts.
August 7, 2025 @ 10:48 am
I disagree. I’d rather go to broadway and have Garth, Luke, Alan and Morgan and Aldeans bars there than have a bar from a pop punk artist who doesn’t give a shit about us or our history. Yes, every single one of them cares about our history.
Broadway, in part, exists to honor current country culture too. And it does. You don’t have to be a hall of fame member to open a bar there, and you shouldn’t have to.
You seem to view her as a good person who just wants what’s best for Nashville and broadway. But there’s no evidence at all her statements and intentions are in good faith, at all. She is absolutely an outsider, just as Beyonce is. She has no interest or skin in the game to where she’d even give a shit about George jones. Hayley would view George as problematic and worthy of cancellation, anyways. She’d me too him.
She doesn’t have a point whether you want to admit that or not. She’s not in good faith. She isn’t out to honor our culture and music.
Her sole reason for this is to get broadway to bow to the woke mob. I hope the bars hold strong. And I don’t think any of them are in danger of closing. My guess is the most popular site on broadway is Morgan’s bar. As long as the public loves his music, he will do well there. And he’s the biggest superstar in the genre.
Hayley is from a has been pop punk band. Who the hell is she?
August 10, 2025 @ 7:06 am
You’ve consistently has the worst takes on this whole thread. Congrats champ
August 10, 2025 @ 11:01 am
Thank you! Nice to see you!
Oh my old friend appeared. Member when you argued that pink having more monthly listeners on Spotify meant she was bigger than the fucking Beatles. I don’t think anyone should take a word you say as serious. Morgan is one of the biggest artists of his generation, and isn’t just huge. Huge is an understatement. He isn’t Taylor Swift huge but he’s as big as you could be without being her. He’s number 2.
Tell us again how Billie eilish and Chappell
Roan are bigger than the Beatles!
Morgan is the second biggest artist in all of music. He’s one of the biggest county artists of all time. He’s certainly the biggest star in decades in the genre. He isn’t a star or huge. He’s a mega superstar.
But I agree right now, now one has more popularity and power than pink! She has more listeners than some silly band in Liverpool whoever they are. She is the queen! She is the moment. She is right now! No one is the bigger cultural moment in 2025 than pink!
August 7, 2025 @ 10:54 am
Yes, she is a scalawag and not a carpetbagger.
August 7, 2025 @ 12:51 pm
The problem here is the quotes Hayley Williams offered to Stereogum where she basically said there’s nothing good on Lower Broadway, reinforced by the mocking video. As a Nashville resident, she should know that painting with such a broad brush is unfair to Lower Broad and create collateral damage.
I actually got tipped to the song and video by someone saying Hayley was lashing out at the bad bars on Lower Broadway and Morgan Wallen specifically, and frankly, got excited that she was taking a stand I could get behind. Then I watch the video, read the quotes, and was surprised at how scattershooting her criticism felt, even to go as far as roping in Santa’s Pub as a “F*cking Karaoke bar.”
August 7, 2025 @ 10:33 am
Similar to Beyonce, why are we allowing outsiders to dictate to us what our culture looks and sounds likes. She is a Nashville resident, but all those businesses and establishments are legal. They have every right to do business.
She doesn’t make country music or even country adjacent music. She’s never spoken lovingly about the genres history.
The issue seems to be that conservatives exist in the genre and that to her is wrong. She’d have no issue if broadway had 5 drag bars and had the rainbow flag all over. She’d have no issue with a bunch of bars owned by pro choice feminists.
The different between liberals and conservatives boils down to this. We get most artists are liberal. Art is liberal or a lot of it is. But we don’t go banning all liberals. We accept it, begrudgingly. But we do. People like Beyonce or in this case Hayley view any and all conservative ideas inside the genre and music overall as actual violence. What these conservative artists on broadway are personally has no bearing on them. They don’t care if they help the old lady next door or feed the poor. Their one and only issue is they vote red. They literally don’t want any conservatives in the genre or in music at all. It’s violence to them.
Hayley has contributed absolutely nothing to the genre or our history. She doesn’t care about the intricacies and special parts of country that we all love and that have touched us deeply. It’s purely ideological to her. Conservatives exist in her town and that’s an issue for her. It’s the only issue. The fact anyone could be anti LGBTQ, anti abortion, conservative and anti blm is shocking to her because it’s not just a disagreement, to her it’s tantamount to heresy and those of us who are heretics need to pay.
It’s also hypocrisy in all its forms. Racism is viewed as the ultimate sin by these people. It’s evil. Yet sin is sin. There’s no hierarchy at all. People do a lot of things that are bad and Hayley doesn’t call that out.
It’s sad these SJW white liberal women seem to want to ruin everything. Music can’t just be music . Bars can no longer just be bars. It’s this bizarre thing of being offended not because you personally are wronged, but you are offended ON BEHALF of others who may be offended. Like, what?
Morgan was caught on video then spent years outside the spotlight, donated some money, apologized (I wouldn’t have) and in the chair throwing incident he went to court. He’s owned up to his mistakes. He touched on it in several songs. What else is he supposed to do? How else can he atone? He’s done more than most, including his accusers.
At a certain point you have to let it go. Liberals will hold the ring cam video over his head the rest of his career. What else do they want from him? He’s a troubled dude, but ultimately he seems like he’s trying to be a better person. Who among us hasn’t done things in the past we really regret? How many more years must be pay for the ring cam video? It was 4 years ago.
Trigger isn’t a fan of him, and lots of people on here aren’t. But he’s undeniably the most successful country artist we’ve seen in quite some time. His music connects with people in a way that’s truly special. I think he shares similarities with Nickelback . The critics hate them, they are routinely mocked and made fun of, yet they are or at least were mega superstars releasing some of the most popular albums and songs of their era.
I also think class and race play a role here but not in the way that Hayley is suggesting. Much like Trump, Morgan has many blue collar and rural and poor fans. And his music speaks to them. Another person in the Tyler thread suggested this role is actually Tyler’s. It’s not. Morgan represents these folks in ways Tyler never will because Tyler will never be the superstar Morgan is. But Hayley would be and does champion rap music that glorifies violence, hedonism, and misogyny. The difference rap is made by poor blacks not by poor whites. People like Hayley hate poor ehites, they mock them, despise them, ridicule them, and actually view them as threats to America. The simple rule is, they hate white people. It isn’t any more complicated than this. She hates that white people exist, and it’s self hatred on her part. She views whites as subhuman in the same way any racist views and race that isn’t their own. If it were up to her white people wouldn’t own a single establishment in Nashville.
That is pure evil and must be rooted out completely from Nashville, from the industry and from society.
August 7, 2025 @ 10:43 am
Disagree with just about all of this but especially the argument made routinely in the comment sections of this website is to be a country music performer or fan you have to be right wing. It’s a betrayal of your roots if you’re not is said on here all the time.
August 7, 2025 @ 11:15 am
Harris did you read my post?
Here’s a quote
“The different between liberals and conservatives boils down to this. We get most artists are liberal. Art is liberal or a lot of it is. But we don’t go banning all liberals. We accept it, begrudgingly. But we do. People like Beyonce or in this case Hayley view any and all conservative ideas inside the genre and music overall as actual violence. What these conservative artists on broadway are personally has no bearing on them. They don’t care if they help the old lady next door or feed the poor. Their one and only issue is they vote red. They literally don’t want any conservatives in the genre or in music at all. It’s violence to them.“
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I admit I’m conservative but you don’t seem to have read my post. I’m not saying all country artists are conservative, in fact as I said most artists are liberal. And it must also be stated most CONSERVATIVES in country music aren’t overtly in your face about it like Aldean or Lee Greenwood. Country fans generally don’t like any politics in the music, either side.
Your issue with me is the issue I have with Hayley. I’m not arguing liberals shouldn’t exist. She by contrast views any conservative as evil and they need to be drummed out of the industry solely because they are conservative. She should be able to express her politics in her music, but the idea that she as someone who doesn’t give a single shit about our music and history, can come in and go like an interior designer, “yeah that bar is racist, replace it with a drag bar, that venue is the site of a racist incident: remove and replace it with dei named bar instead. She doesn’t get to tell us shit. Who the fuck is she to have any say in any of this? And the funny thing is even the legit racist instances in our genre like deford Bailey, she has no clue about. It’s all just a talking point to her to remake country music into the Benetton flag. She’s the musical equivalent of robin Deangelo.
If Tim McGraw had a bar ( which seems unlikely), but play the hypothetical out here. If he had a bar, I’d check it out. He’s a major figure in our genre. The fact he’s liberal maybe would be in the back of my mind as I entered but I’d love to check it out. I’m sure it would be cool. I’d never say, let’s cancel the bar or let’s drum him out of the industry. He’s beloved and for good reason. Hayley is offering a different view though: one where politics is the main lens and that if I disagree with the politics of the bar owner I have a right to go after the bar and the owner. This is literally insane. If you hate the politics of the bar owner just don’t visit! Why slag them off in public and essentially call for a boycott? It’s gross.
Your universe has no meaning to them. They will not try to understand. They will be tired, they will be cold, they will make a fire with your beautiful oak door…
August 7, 2025 @ 11:24 am
I did read your post. I said you’re wrong that conservatives are accepting of liberals being part of country music and my evidence was people say on here all the time that if you’re liberal you are betraying your home and roots and can’t be part of country music. People routinely make the argument here that country music is only for right wing people and liberals need to be boycotted and run out.
You also just made up a bunch of stuff the Paramore lady never said and got mad about her stuff you made up
August 7, 2025 @ 11:53 am
So you’re arguing that conservatives aren’t accepting of liberals in country music, and arguing that to a conservative who twice said he is accepting of liberals and believes they should exist in the scene? 🤷♂️
Ok, dude!
Hayley isn’t a shrinking violet. It’s not hard to glean her views as she explicitly states them. She made headlines on her most recent tours for statements she made on stage, and shirts she was wearing that made political statements. She’s overtly political. There’s no guess work involved in trying to figure out where she lands on the political spectrum.
She hates conservatives, which is different than what I said above about conservatives. Do we dislike if we hear an artist is liberal? Of course, but we listen nonetheless.
Hayley literally views conservatives as evil. That’s not guess work. And anyone who knows her work, knows this to be accurate.
Here’s an excerpt from a review about a show from last year:
“Paramore’s Hayley Williams vocally denounced Donald Trump and Project 2025 from the stage on Friday night, asking fans: “Do you want to live in a dictatorship?”
“Project 2025 is Donald Trump‘s playbook for controlling and punishing women, poor people, people of color, and the LGBTQ+ community,” said Williams.
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So yeah I stand by my characterization of her.
And since she isn’t part of our scene and genre your criticism of all this has no bearing. She isn’t a traitor to her upbringing because she never was part of all this.
She hates white people.
August 7, 2025 @ 12:39 pm
Country Fan,
As others have pointed out, I feel like you’re coming in here WAY too hot, and trying too hard to draw parallel lines between culture war issues and politics. This is a stupid music beef perpetrated in a dumb song that few if anyone will even be thinking about next week. Yes, Hayley seems politically incited by the current moment and is lashing out, and she is repulsed by everything Lower Broadway, which I can understand to an extend irrespective of politics. But let’s please understand this is a country music website. Let’s all try to ask ourselves before we comment on anything if it’s relevant to the music world, or are we using a particular story as a launching pad into other more acrimonious topics that aren’t relevant to country music discussions? Otherwise, these comments sections are not going to operate as they’re supposed to, which will force me to limit the discussion, and then we all lose.
August 7, 2025 @ 2:48 pm
Trigger, I guess you and I just look at the story differently. To me this literally is a culture war issue, it would be no different than if Patterson hood decided to start a bar on broadway and Jason Aldean lobbied to force the neighborhood to reject the offer. Would it be correct to say it was political on Jason’s part in this hypothetical l? Maybe not. But I wouldn’t be out of pocket suggesting that likely did play a role.
She never did as you said, specify she’s opposed to everything lower broadway. She called out the country artist owned bars solely, nothing else. Your article talked about iris dement and offered critiques of lower broadway but Hayley herself didn’t critique the things you did. You are reading her mind just as I am. The fact that broadway is commercialized and that being negative isn’t part of her critique at all. Your argument seems to be she’s angry at broadway being a spot that’s commercialized. There’s no evidence that’s her objection at all.
Once again you seem to want to offer a ton of explanations for her behavior but once the political angle was broached you talked to me about it. Also notice other commenters here believed politics played a role as well. Why did you pick me out as opposed to others?
Suggesting politics played a role in the statement by Hayley is also not out of pocket and has some evidence to suggest it. She reacted with disgust in terms of these businesses suggesting it’s personal to her. People usually just dislike a restaurant or bar they don’t care for. She reacted with visceral anger and disgust. So the question is why did she react so angrily.
I think too often you ignore the political component of these stories. And I get it you run a country site not a partisan news agency, but I viewed the Morgan SNL controversy this last year as being political in nature. It’s clear people weren’t just pissed at him for being reckless or dangerous on his personal life. It was that he represents to them the blue collar marginalized that country has always spoken for and to and given a voice, and this dates back to the genres inception.
She clearly has a PERSONAL beef with these bar owners. It’s not being silly to suggest part of that boils down to political alignment, especially in 2025.
We’ve established she isn’t a champion of our genre and tradition and history so commercialized broadway isn’t a concern then. Why would she give a crap if broadway is turned into a “product”, given she doesn’t claim our scene? Why would it matter to her?
And in 2025, if you have two well known political figureheads, and one reacts angrily to you owning a bar, seems natural to go, “gee probably had something to do with the fact they both disagree politically”.
August 7, 2025 @ 3:23 pm
I understand there is a political component to this story. I don’t know if it justifies the long-winded rants you’ve launched into here that bog down the comments section. And as opposed to talking about politics to get back to the music, you use the music to get back to talking politics. But I digress.
“She never did as you said, specify she’s opposed to everything lower broadway. She called out the country artist owned bars solely, nothing else.”
Incorrect. The name of the song is “Ego Death At A Bachelorette Party.” She called out “Bachelorettes and Bachelorette bars by name, Karaoke bars by name (while the video featured Santa’s Pub), and went further in the interview with Stereogum. Yes, her primary ire was with the bars named after country music artists, but when prompted by the reporter and given the opportunity to name Robert’s or somewhere like that as a good place to go, didn’t take the opportunity.
Overall, I wanted to use this article to talk deeper about the opinions of Lower Broadway, talk about some of the recent developments, and try to put it in a broader context.
August 7, 2025 @ 3:03 pm
I think it’s important to call balls and strikes. I and other commenters didn’t make this political. Hayley did. There isn’t a political issue you could name that I don’t already know her stated and public facing stance on. And that’s because she’s open and quite fiercely political. From her clothing on stage, to her press interviews, her lyrics, what she says in live settings on stage. Even her issues with past band members. I didn’t enforce those beliefs she shoved her beliefs on all of us. This stuff isn’t subtle, it’s overt. Given all that, yes I absolutely think politics played a role in her statement. Why wouldn’t I? If you are overtly political like she is and always has been, you invite people to critique you because of it. If she releases a song promoting feminism, why wouldn’t I critique that through the lens of politics? What other possible way could I critique it?
She wears her politics on her sleeve, if you take to the stage and make overtly partisan statements to crowds as she does, I think it’s a legitimate guess to say her beef with the broadway bars is she views them all as being owned by country bros who she views as coded republican. To not dig into this or to explore it is kind of silly, as is castigating commenters who point this out. We had this play out recently where pop star Tate McRae collabed on Morgan’s new single. Tates fans were pissed because they view Morgan as the enemy. It’s not a stretch to think some artists themselves view things on that paradigm of “good political allies” and “bad problematic and republican artists to avoid”. Just look at how people reacted to Parker McCollum and Carrie singing at the inauguration!
August 7, 2025 @ 3:53 pm
Well I spoke about lower broadway. Are you missing those comments deliberately? I said I don’t have an issue with broadway being commercialized. That it brings tourists and money to Nashville, and all of it is driven by country musics popularity right now, and all those who own bars are very popular and huge names.
Also think it’s kind of funny how you chose me as a figurehead, yet there are multiple other posts by other commenters that mention politics (independent of me, as in they posted in general and not in response to me) yet you didn’t castigate or call them out. Why? If you have a problem with politics being injected in here, would be wise to clamp down on all of it. Not just one user. Also your anger seemed to be about my tone. Yet there are other users who use just as intense verbiage as I do yet you don’t say a word. Stop playing favorites.
As you yourself said politics plays a role on this story. You neglected that in your article. And when I posted about it, to draw attention to it and spark further dialogue about it. You know, to point out, on an article about why this is an issue, you ignored the main one, you got a pissy diaper about it.
I also sort of disagree with the overall tenor of the idea: let’s complain about broadway just because she is pissed about it. Why? I am a person who sees nothing wrong with broadway and finds her critique of it dumb. I have a right to call that out. Complaining about broadway just because Hayley does doesn’t work for me. Because I find her critique lacking substance and the whole point was that her ranting wasn’t about making broadway better it was about slagging off country artists she deems problematic for one reason another.
I find it hilarious you give her comments weight, she isn’t one of us, she isn’t a country artist, she has no interest in this site or the larger country scene. She doesn’t give a shit about Ernest tubb or Randy Travis or Zach top for that matter. She doesn’t give a shit about us. So why take her comments seriously? I reject the idea she walked around broadway and was grossed out about it “ruining country tradition” and is overtly commercialized. That’s bullshit. So if she doesn’t have a stake in our scene and genre why the fuck would I show deference to her or her comments?
Also long winded rants? Given your job I find this kind of absurd. Your reviews and articles aren’t exactly lessons in brevity. I know this might be shocking to you but sometimes people have deeper comments and statements than just posting “I agree” or “I disagree”. I would assume you’d understand why you posting that one sentence reviews of albums would leave us and you wanting more. I’m
Not just going to assent to everything you say just because you run the site. The Tyler review is a perfect example of this, where your review was background to the conversation in the comments, so much so in that you had to make a separate post about the response to the review. Being respectful is one thing, but blind obedience and assent to your view of situations and events and albums would make this site not worth it.
August 14, 2025 @ 3:34 am
Country fan you need to get off the internet for a while. This is sad and embarrassing
August 7, 2025 @ 10:55 am
Because country music is evil and must be eradicated. /s
The genre leaders also roll and take the abuse.
August 7, 2025 @ 11:27 am
“People like Hayley hate poor ehites, they mock them, despise them, ridicule them, and actually view them as threats to America. The simple rule is, they hate white people. It isn’t any more complicated than this. She hates that white people exist, and it’s self hatred on her part. She views whites as subhuman in the same way any racist views and race that isn’t their own. If it were up to her white people wouldn’t own a single establishment in Nashville.”
Take a deep breath brother. Tomorrow is Friday.
August 7, 2025 @ 12:09 pm
Can you imagine how poppin’ Nashville would be if no white people owned establishments on Broadway? We may not be able to handle that level of bop.
August 8, 2025 @ 7:32 am
If Hayley Williams attacked Morgan Wallen or Jason Aldean on the quality of their music there wouldn’t be a problem here. More people are tired of the word ‘racist’ being thrown around as an indefensible character assasination attack in place of having a valid complaint or point.
August 7, 2025 @ 2:01 pm
Look how she uses a black guy as a motionless prop in her video and then proceeds to use lower Broadway — a place she hates — as prop, all while singing about herself being the biggest star.
She is no bachelorette; she is an old spinster, ready for the glue factory. She reminds me of that crazy cat lady, E. Jean Carroll.
August 12, 2025 @ 8:55 am
Fun facts:
He’s not a motionless prop, his name is Zachary Gray, and he’s the music video director, as well as a photographer. He’s also directed and appeared in multiple music videos for both Paramore & Hayley’s solo project.
The song is partially satire, but I can understand how subtlety can be elusive if a person doesn’t try to think about it with a little more effort.
August 7, 2025 @ 2:22 pm
Hayley Williams is the quintessential elitist liberal white woman that never leaves her bubble.
I’ve got news for her ilk and the black LGBTQ community.
Black people LOVE Morgan Wallen.
Especially straight black females.
How do I know?
I do rideshare in Nashville and the droves, and I mean DROVES of black people that were going to Wallen’s show at Nissan Stadium and the amount of black people I drop off at his bar off Broadway really opened my eyes.
Liberal rage baiters are full of shit.
August 7, 2025 @ 7:47 pm
I don’t doubt that Black folks like Morgan Wallen, it has been a meme for over 10 years that Black people love Paramore. There is a podcast called Black People Love Paramore, the community’s love of Paramore has been the subject of many Reddit threads and magazine articles. Paramore concerts are pretty well known for being extremely diverse. When I booked them before the pandemic, all their marketing people placed significant money into making sure the show was marketed to the Black community.
August 7, 2025 @ 9:30 pm
If you had to place a bet on which show is more diverse: Jason Isbell, Mickey guyton, paramore and Morgan which would your bet be on? I’m
Going Morgan all day long. He’s the 2nd biggest musician on the planet behind Taylor. He doesn’t just attract white people to his shows. Jason Isbell does. Mickey guyton too.
You are correct paramore has black fans. But they aren’t in the top 20 biggest artists in 2025, let alone the top 2 like Morgan is.
Morgan’s music as pointed out by trigger also incorporates black music into it in a way say a Cole Swindell or a Chris lane dont.
Morgan has done more to encourage race relations inside country music than any other artist of our lifetime. Instead of playing for segregated audiences, he warmly weaves and mixes black influences into all his songs and works with rap artists too.
If you want someone that has welcomed black people into the genre, it’s oddly a white dude who has been accused of being a racist for 5 years now. Kane, and Darius and Charley Crockett and Rissi Palmer are what The NY Times views as welcomed artists, as they while being talented code as being non threatening and largely inoffensive.
Morgan by contrast is a bad boy. A true rock star in the old sense. Girls want to date him, dudes don’t mind because he makes killer music. And he is all comers. You don’t even have to be a country fan to be into him, in fact he is the ultimate gateway drug to our scene. No one has been of equal importance. And part of that is thanks to his indiscretions. If he was a squeaky clean choir boy I think he’d actually be attracting less people to us. His music is for all. You love rap beats and flows. Going to be hard to convince someone who is into that to attend a Tyler Childers show. But show they Ain’t That Some and they are at the next Morgan show.
Whether you view him as country or not we all owe Morgan a debt of gratitude for expanding and growing our genre in ways no one else ever has. The country boom of the last few years is largely solely because of him. He is our superstar of a generation. And we should appreciate him while we can and while he’s on top. One day country won’t be in stadiums anymore and topping all charts and being number one for months on end. Only Morgan could have achieved all this!
August 8, 2025 @ 8:01 am
Have you ever shut up? These long-winded diatribes are exhausting.
August 7, 2025 @ 2:34 pm
Yep, they both suck. As artists, entertainers and songwriters, neither one contribute any shred of
talent or depth to Nashville. But hey, the kids eat it up!!!
August 7, 2025 @ 2:46 pm
Paramore is some of the most generic radio rock pop punk garbage you’ll ever hear. While I can’t honestly say it’s worse than Morgan Wallen or Aldean, it’s certainly not artistically any more redeeming. The cross appeal to all these artists is pretty similar and it’s all bad.
August 7, 2025 @ 2:51 pm
Seems just useless chatter. Dont like it down there, dont go. Calling out wallen just cries of a little jealousy. Morgans probably the least racists person in nashville or wherever.
August 7, 2025 @ 3:26 pm
Headed to Nashville for Reckless Kelly & Jamie Lin Wilson at the Ryman in September. I’ll probably follow the advice to stay out of artist owned and branded bars on that main strip.
August 7, 2025 @ 6:12 pm
They’re all the same; these joyless, bitter liberal women. Bragging about how many abortions they had and then off to the next ‘Trans rights are human rights’ protest rally.
August 7, 2025 @ 9:06 pm
Crazy how most commenting here, including the author, seem to know Jack shit about Hayley Williams or her music. Some of y’all sound so deranged going on and on about liberal women.
August 9, 2025 @ 5:05 am
Hicklib
August 8, 2025 @ 5:23 am
“… located down there in between all the terrible establishments named after douchebag mainstream country stars.”
Sounds more like something Hayley Williams, whoever she is, would say (at least going by your article, since I know hardly anything about her(?) one way or the other), rather than someone who is about “Saving Country Music”. Aren’t “mainstream country stars” still country?
August 8, 2025 @ 7:06 am
Listening to the last albums from Morgan Wallen and Jelly Roll, I would call it a strectch to call them “country.” But there’s no brand loyalty here. Bad music is bad music.
August 8, 2025 @ 4:04 pm
Trigger, would you like to tell the class why not one word in your article confronted Hayley on her language and tone. Not one word mentioned how uncalled for, how gross, how extreme her comments were. Instead you launched into an attack on lower Broadway. When a lot of comments refused to take the bait, you didn’t get it. Some of us don’t have a grudge against lower Broadway.
It’s not my fault you refused to do your job and mention politics as an element of the story in your article. So I brought it up here.
If you call someone racist, you are going to get people going at you equally as hard. You get what you give. And I gave it to her. I said what I said, which I stand by.
It’s funny how someone can call us all racists, and then we are supposed to moderate our language and tone towards her, it’s like what? Did she moderate her tone? I didn’t bring her into this, she bought us all into it.
If you call someone a name, expect to get push back. If she didn’t want people calling her names, maybe don’t call us all names and it wouldn’t have happened!
Instead of policing people here for justified anger at being painted as racist, maybe focus your own ire at the subject of your article who started it all.
August 8, 2025 @ 5:55 am
We need an alternative country music capital. Nashville has jumped the shark.
August 9, 2025 @ 5:08 am
I would say Branson MO, but it’s starting to get a little glitzy,too.
August 9, 2025 @ 1:28 pm
Nashville has some very good places to see music, they just are not on Broadway. Same as here in New Orleans where I live. Not one good music club is on Bourbon St yet we have plenty of great venues. Same with Austin. 6th St is not where it’s at. Branson? Hahaha!!!!!
August 8, 2025 @ 6:44 am
Good God, man. It’s a 3-minute song not a peer-review research paper on The Effect of Race and Class Consumerism on the Culture of the South. Y’all need to smoke some Bhagavad Gita and chill.
August 8, 2025 @ 3:46 pm
@mark–Excellent point. I’ve been known to be “long-winded” myself, so I’ve refrained from calling out other people for being blowhards, but I’m glad you said it.
August 8, 2025 @ 3:26 pm
I’m really not a fan of Hayley at all. Or her band. She’s not a good musician. She makes outdated and unpopular music that last was ruling the charts when Obama was president during his FIRST term. That’s she’s a bitter has been washed up artist isn’t my problem. But I’ll be damned if she calls me names and I don’t respond.
She’s a loser. a liar. And a deeply disturbed singer who can’t write and sing. She’s jealous others rake in money she’s too moronic to know how to make. Writing whiny songs about drag show story time just doesn’t cause money to come pouring in. Who knew.
Music has moved on. The only person talking about her songs are people who hear it and go, “guess she was really in the business of misery, cause this is miserable music.”
Garbage. Trash
August 8, 2025 @ 9:43 pm
I’m no fan of hers but she is hardly “washed up”. You obviously have an issue with her for some reason. I’ve nveer even heard her music before nor will I most likely but you sure seem to know a lot about her for some strange reason.
August 8, 2025 @ 3:31 pm
I don’t apologize. Never will. Won’t apologize to Hayley, her fans or New England country fan. I am not apologizing to any of them. And I don’t apologize for my comments. Just because they are now deleted. You can’t delete them from my mind. I still believe them and stand by every single syllable
August 8, 2025 @ 4:10 pm
“You can’t delete them from my mind” Is eidetic imagery a blessing or a curse?
August 14, 2025 @ 3:39 am
Keep yelling at the sky old man
You’re Americas classic passion project. Everything they want you to think you think. Pretty hilarious
August 8, 2025 @ 9:41 pm
There may be a decent bar or 2 on Lower Bdwy like Robert’s or even Acme at times but I will still never go down there ever again due to all of the dopes that hang out there. Just a horrible atmosphere. You nailed it with “nauseating”. It’s the same kind of people that love Bourbon St or Beale St or Times Square. Hard pass. Give me Dee’s or Station Inn over any of those places any day of the week.
August 8, 2025 @ 10:52 pm
In addition to recommending that fans of traditional country music eschew the bachelorette barracks of the big-name modern country star bars, I would suggest that they got to places like Roberts and Laylas on a Monday night to have the best chance of evading the Bourbon street-like crowds of the weekends.
August 9, 2025 @ 9:22 am
As a non-American who just likes country and roots music, I have to say: I am frightened by the intransigence, the unforgiveness, the stubbornness and the violence with which cultural and general political issues are disputed here.
I have never been to the USA and perhaps romanticize this country.
Unfortunately, it seems that the intransigence is getting harder and harder and people can no longer stand to live with other people who hold opposite opinions and have opposite life plans. This kind of thing is poisonous for the development of a nation.
Is no one interested in reconciliation and understanding? Is there nothing that can unite your nation? Do you need this internal enemy on both sides because the external enemy is missing or supposedly weak?
Many Americans are Christians. Does Jesus’ commandment to love one’s enemies not apply to political opponents?
August 9, 2025 @ 10:05 am
Agreed. It’s difficult to understand that people would spend hours spewing mean and hateful things in a political website’s comment section, but it’s inexplicable that people do it in a music website’s comment section. They are consumed.
I just came back from spending an hour watering my neighbor’s front and back gardens, feeding their cat, then giving it love while they’re away for a week. My wife or I come over every day. They do the same for us when we’re away. We are atheists. They are devout Christians. We are friends and neighbors. It isn’t hard, or at least it shouldn’t be. I assume it’s because even though our religious and political beliefs are radically different, we are all sane. I have no other explanation. The only logical conclusion is that these commenters, and the like, are unhinged. What else explains the cruelty, bullying and hate? From nutters on both sides. Regardless of your politics, you cannot lose sight of everyone’s humanity.
August 9, 2025 @ 12:15 pm
Ultimately I think it comes down to people who see the world as a reality and those who live in delusions. The difference is those of us in reality world are just living, we aren’t trying to force people to do things, which is in contrast with the other side.
It’s shocking to me how people want to force their own views, values and beliefs onto those of us who don’t share them. Some of us just want to listen to music, enjoy it, and go on about our days.
You can be gay, or liberal or even a commie, but the problem is when those same people force their views onto us and expect the world to bend to your sexuality for example. It’s a narcissistic view, you are gay so everyone must not only know about it, but change their views on gender and sexuality to accommodate. I have no interest in doing either.
You see comments and rude ones, including the comment that started it all by Hayley labeling half the country as racists, uneducated. Nazis, backwards, dumb, inbred and intolerant. All those accusations are unfounded and are just as prejudiced as someone hating someone for the color of their skin. You can see the overt gross nature and bigotry of comments on here, totally on full display of commenters who have never met a rural person or a conservative worn in their life and have no qualms about stereotyping all of them as being one way. That’s just not how adults act. It’s childish, insecure and plain moronic.
Comments on this article are rather gross and disturbing for many reasons. Largely because they show a group of people who are snooty, glib, elitist, and feel like they are better than others on here.
My own view of why that is, is that a lot of people who fit those descriptions on here are mentally ill. They believe the world should and does revolve completely around them and their beliefs, and ideology.
August 9, 2025 @ 4:09 pm
There may be some lack of self-awareness going on there.
August 9, 2025 @ 5:18 pm
My comment below was meant to be a direct reply to the comment above by “Country Fan”
I apologize.
August 9, 2025 @ 1:22 pm
Some of these comments are just plain laughable as if Lower Broadway is not mostly just a bunch of tourist traps. But who cares what she has to say? She is not even a country artist. Everyone has an opinion. So what? I have no interest in her or her opinions.
August 9, 2025 @ 2:56 pm
With all due respect, I am perplexed by your words. You said, “…we aren’t trying to force people to do things, which is in contrast with the other side”. You then say, “…you are gay so everyone must not only know about it, but change their views on gender and sexuality to accommodate. I have no interest in doing either”. By wanting gay people to hide their sexuality, you are forcing your views on them to remain closeted. You do not need to change your views on gender and sexuality to treat other humans with respect. All you need to do is allow them to live their honest lives the same as you live yours. I would rather people be accepting of others differences, but I don’t believe they should be forced to do so. Even though I completely disagree with you on many issues, I want you to be able to express them openly. That expression can be done without legally forcing “Others” into the shadows. That is un-American. People who are truly racist, bigoted, hateful, etc. should be able to express those views, but not force them onto others. Why can we not focus on the issues that affect us all and make everyone’s life better? I understand that some people’s religious views won’t mesh with this, but since not everyone’s religion is the same, we must accept everyone. Unless you want a theocracy.
You also said in an earlier comment something about “liberal women bragging about how many abortions they’ve had”. First, I’d wager that this has never happened, and second, forcing someone to give birth is also forcing your views on someone else
I have said more than I ever expected. I have become those who I criticized. This will be my last comment here. Please consider the beauty and strength that comes from kindness. Thank you.
August 11, 2025 @ 11:43 am
Stop making sense!
August 9, 2025 @ 3:19 pm
Who cares what that malignant cvnt has to say, must be a slow news day.
August 9, 2025 @ 4:34 pm
Agreed. She’s a sad excuse for a human being. When was her last hit? Who even cares? I sure don’t. She’s is unamerican and should be immediately deported. A total ghoul. She should be forced for forfeit all her earnings. And I hope class action suits are filed against her to take everything she owns. We must use the legal system and lawyers to do what must be done: ruin her financially.
August 9, 2025 @ 4:46 pm
These comments are ludicrous. You want her deported? She was born in Mississippi.
August 14, 2025 @ 2:38 am
Most likely a blue city lib, posing as a Southern man.
August 20, 2025 @ 10:02 pm
Is there a reason this post by cray is still on this site? You censored and deleted my comment about Hayley. Yet allowed this one? Why?
August 10, 2025 @ 5:53 am
I haven’t heard all the songs off “Ego” yet, but overall this does seem to be about her anger. The song “True Believer” opens with similar thoughts about Nashville’s gentrification, religious corruption, and the elements of Southern Culture she shows disdain for.
August 11, 2025 @ 10:42 am
You are all racist backwoods cousin fuckers! straight out of deliverance!
August 14, 2025 @ 2:36 am
L’chaim!
August 11, 2025 @ 11:41 am
Morgan Wallen: casually uses the n word and appeals to the lowest common denominator in everything he does
Hayley Williams: writes a song about the vapid drunk frat boy culture on Lower Broadway but forgets to make an exception for one or two places that aren’t half bad.
Kyle “Trigger” Coroneos: They’re the same thing!
August 11, 2025 @ 1:07 pm
As time has gone on, and media has descended more and more into partisan hot takes and social media quips, I’ve tried to be a counterbalance to this trend by writing longer articles with more context to re-instill the nuance in important topics. It’s frustrating when people take those efforts, and then boil them down to basic inferences I never shared, and never would. It’s even more frustrating that the fashionable thing to do is then to criticize people who try to add more context and nuance into topics and bloviating morons. It’s definitely adding to the descent of society.
August 13, 2025 @ 8:23 pm
“Some might even call Hayley’s wholesale repudiation of Lower Broadway the same kind of bigotry she’s accusing Morgan Wallen of.”
This is the quote I’m referring to. One person is accused of being a racist, the other is calling out obnoxiously drunk sorority girls. To say what Williams is doing is “bigotry” let alone the same kind that Morgan Wallen was accused of is the kind of false equivalency thats adding to the descent of society.
August 14, 2025 @ 7:09 am
Bigotry is lumping all of one demographic or cohort of something together and judging them all as a whole, often based off of a stereotype. That is what Hayley Williams did. That’s all I’m saying.
August 14, 2025 @ 4:52 pm
By lumping them together you’re basically saying they cancel each other out. One of those, right or wrong, is not like the other and you know it.
August 14, 2025 @ 5:12 pm
I understand the two things I’m lumping together are different. I think everyone would know they’re different to the point where that doesn’t even need to be said. Not sure how they both “cancel each other out.” This isn’t a competition. Judging large segments of people or things off of negative stereotypes is always wrong.