How Tyler Childers Made the Most Polarizing Country Album of the Year

When the history books regard this era when the independent became the mainstream in country music, Tyler Childers will play perhaps the most important, and most pivotal role in that story. Though it was Sturgill Simpson who started the fire, and Zach Bryan who brought it to the top of the charts and the stadium level, it really was Tyler Childers and his 2017 album Purgatory that introduced the masses to the alternative universe in country that radio and the awards shows were refusing to represent. He truly is a pivotal character in the history of country music, and a songwriter for the ages.
But ever since that 2017 album, the going has been shaky for Childers, at least when it comes to studio output. Country Squire from 2019 was certainly a strong offering as well, though in some respects, more like an addendum to Purgatory since both albums were produced by Sturgill Simpson, and this is when Childers started to be more economical with his output, only including nine songs when he had so many others he’d performed live without studio renditions.
From there, it’s been one polarizing album release from Childers after another. His pandemic offering Long Violent History was more of a political statement than it was a legitimate studio record. It included some very novice fiddle tunes performed by an entry-level Childers just learning the instrument, along with the title track that was Tyler’s answer to the Black Lives Matter uprisings in the aftermath of the killing of George Floyd in 2020.
2022’s Can I Take My Hounds To Heaven was a confounding work that took the same eight songs—including previously-released tracks and cover material—and recited them three different ways. Though the vision was ambitious, the execution was confused, and many simply took issue with the album from a marketing and packaging standpoint. Though Take My Hounds did somewhat well upon release, it quickly fell out of charts as fans continued to favor Purgatory, and to a lesser extent, Country Squire.
2023 saw a return to at least a slightly more conventional approach to album making with Rustin’ in the Rain. But now at only seven songs, including covers of S.G. Goodman’s “Space and Time” and Kris Kristofferson’s “Help Me Make It Through The Night”—and previously worn-out live standards like “Perheron Mules”—people felt like they were receiving diminishing returns from Childers, while pre-order people felt outright mislead once the track list was revealed.
The pinnacle moment for Rustin’ in the Rain was also the most polarizing of Tyler’s career up to that point. It wasn’t actually the song “In Your Love,” but the video that featured two male miners in a same sex love story. While this earned Childers major praise from political pundits and certain critics, it also parsed the Childers fan base into two halves, with one side now constantly citing “gay miners” any time Tyler’s name is merely uttered.
Though outright homophobia was certainly part of the backlash against the video, similar to Tyler’s Black Lives Matter stance, it wasn’t the opinion itself, but the preachy, hectoring, parental, and down-looking notions of it, and the misconception that exposure = acceptance that made so many of Tyler’s own fans feel like it just was inappropriate. The video was ineffective at softening hearts or broadening perspectives. In many respects, the effect was the opposite, giving many fans of country music and Tyler Childers an off ramp from his career.
Meanwhile, how has the overall career of Tyler Childers fared over this tumultuous time? It’s been generally spectacular. As critics lauded his studio releases while the public summarily ignored them to keep spinning Purgatory, Tyler Childers graduated to the arena level, and continued to build cultural cachet as an Appalachian country music revivalist. But it wasn’t due to his recorded output. It was in spite of it, sans Purgatory, with an honorable mention to Country Squire.
These aren’t opinions being shared. This is the statistical certitude verified by chart placement and success of the various Childers album titles. Even here eight years after the release of Purgatory, the album sits at #30 on the Billboard Country Albums chart, selling and streaming better than all of Tyler’s other albums combined. In fact, it’s Tyler’s earlier records before Purgatory, namely Tyler’s first album Bottles and Bibles (2011), and his Live on Red Barn Radio I & II (2013, 2014) that tend to find more favor with listeners.
All of this is what led to the release of Tyler’s most recent album Snipe Hunter, which despite all of the other criticisms each of his recent studio releases have garnered, might be his most controversial yet, even though unlike his most recent releases, it mostly avoids controversial political subjects, it does include more original material, and comes with a whopping 13 tracks. So the next question is, how did we get here?
The truth of the matter is that for some country music listeners, it wouldn’t matter what Tyler Childers released on Snipe Hunter. After the video for “In Your Love,” and perhaps for some the Black Lives Matter stance, his name was mud to a major cross section of country fans, and so would be anything he released.
But the acrimonious political reaction some immediately have for Tyler Childers was sent into hyper drive when the day before the release, a major puff piece spread was published in GQ, authored by Marissa R. Moss. Titled “How Tyler Childers Made The Most Visionary Country Album of the Year,” it was the subheading that really set people off, reading,
“He’s an arena-filling Nashville outsider who wrote a Black Lives Matter anthem and put a gay love story in a music video. Now, fresh off a pilgrimage to India, he’s releasing his spiritual and artistic opus, ‘Snipe Hunter.’ ‘If I’m trying to talk to another young Tyler out there, he needs to know he’s not going to hell for thinking something else different.'”
This was the only interview/feature-length article to accompany the album release, centering it in the public consciousness, and immediately seeding a politically polarizing environment for the album to be released in, which was a bit ironic since the album isn’t really political—and with some exceptions, neither really was the majority of the GQ feature. But the way it was introduced ripped the scabs off of old wounds, while then inadvertently creating an entirely new one.
The GQ article very much fit the formulaic style of the media puff piece, down to the meaningless observatory language, and the interjected quote at the beginning, following Saving Country Music’s generic puff piece template perfectly. The problem with these kinds of media pieces is that without bringing any kind of journalistic rigor or scrutiny upon the subject—and simply presenting a hyperbolically positive narrative—you falsely present the subject as being above reproach.
As we know now, “Black Lives Matter” (uppercase organization) was catastrophic for “Black lives matter” (the lowercase phrase/idea/movement) by siphoning off dollars from well-intentioned donors for real-estate schemes, while not successfully passing any significant legislation for criminal justice reform in the United States. Ultimately, the main goal of the Black Lives Matter movement was to create fealty to the Black Lives Matter movement as opposed to social change.
The GQ article even attempts to assert the disputed notion that the Black Lives Matter protests remained nonviolent. Simply the term “Black Lives Matter” has fallen out of favor with many on the left side of American politics for the previously-stated reasons. Leading off the GQ feature with such a lightning rod topic was an incredibly poor choice, and doomed the feature.
But this was not the biggest reason that so many country fans went apoplectic over Tyler Childers on the eve of Snipe Hunter‘s release. Near the very end of the GQ feature, Tyler Childers broached why he chose to stop performing his now Double Platinum-Certified song “Feathered Indians” live. Though Childers himself and writer Marissa R. Moss do a great job explaining the complexities of Tyler’s decision in a way that comes across as thoughtful and understandable, the information was condensed down, turned into a meme, and blasted all across social media via viral accounts.
Here is the portion from the GQ feature about “Feathered Indians” in its complete form:
Childers thinks often about that place, and about what the choices he makes mean—about how to use the position he’s found himself in, as a representative of Appalachia, of rural America, as a white boy from Hickman.
Case in point: He has not played one of his most-streamed songs, Purgatory’s “Feathered Indians,” live since March 2020. He wrote it when he was young, referencing a Red Man Chewing Tobacco belt buckle he owned: “My buckle makes impressions on the inside of her thigh.” Fans have speculated that him omitting the song had something to do with his wife, or an ex—theories ran rampant online.
The real reason was more complicated, and more revealing. When COVID hit, and Childers released “Long Violent History,” he did a lot of reflecting on harm and intent. One scholar, who posts to Instagram as Not Your Mama’s History, reached out to him, and he started reading her posts, thinking about what makes something problematic, particularly when filtered through a lens of white supremacy. And he thought about the word “Indian,” and whether or not he wanted to keep using a term that Indigenous groups themselves often reject and debate. “If there’s conversation amongst those individuals about whether they should be using that word or not, then it ain’t for me to be using. It’s not mine.”
He takes a long, deep pause as his eyes well up: He doesn’t apologize for his emotion, only waits until he’s gathered himself enough to speak. The tears fall anyway, and he starts telling a story about a time a few years ago when he took a hide tanning class out in Montana and met an Indigenous man named Shawn who lived on the Blackfeet reservation. He wondered what Shawn would think of “Feathered Indians” and realized that he hoped he never heard it—he wanted Shawn to feel safe in his presence, and know Childers respected him and his heritage. When he found out Shawn’s nephew was a fan, he went back to his Airbnb and cried.
“That song has some of my favorite lines I’ve ever written, some of my favorite melodies,” he says, wiping his eyes. At this point, the table of people setting up for his radio duties in the background have all quietly stopped to listen. “Not playing that song is going to make people think.”
Now he and Senora donate royalties from the song to support grants for Indigenous communities and organizations, through their foundation, the Hickman Holler Appalachian Relief Fund. It’s crucial to model this kind of thing, he believes: We must leave behind that which causes harm to others, even if we never meant harm to begin with. We must all be willing to change as part of this journey on the road.
“I’m really glad we talked about that,” he says, shaking his head and blinking himself back. Right now, he just wants to get into “good trouble.”
However, this is not how it was presented to the vast majority of the public. Very few people read publications such as GQ anymore, and those that do come from the upper crust of American society that tend to look down their noses at all things country music to begin with. It was social media memes where country fans discovered the information about “Feathered Indians” in an out-of-context form.

The “Feathered Indians” information set off a country music firestorm that even reached Saving Country Music’s comments section, even though it was never broached directly. What made the situation so scandalous for some Tyler Childers fans is now one of their most beloved songs from Tyler’s untouchable album Purgatory was now being politicized as well. This resulted in the strongly polarized political environment that Snipe Hunter was released in.
And this political polarization ran both ways. Along with right-wing reactionaries writhing at the idea of a “woke” Tyler Childers participating in language policing, people on the left immediately began praising the record as the “Most Visionary Country Album of the Year” and the “opus” and “masterpiece” the GQ puff piece declared. It became a virtue signal, and an act of moral preening to praise Snipe Hunter to the hilt.
It’s also important to note that the GQ article wasn’t the first time Childers explained why “Feathered Indians” wasn’t being featured in his live set. It was also revealed in a 2023 article for the Community Foundation of Middle Tennessee. If the information hadn’t been turned into a meme, there is a good chance the “Feathered Indians” commentary would have been an afterthought of the GQ article since it came near the end of the lengthy spread.
Amid all of this, much of the actual music of Snipe Hunter got lost in the shuffle. To many, how they felt about Tyler Childers and the album became a political litmus test as opposed to a question of musical taste. But this wasn’t true for everyone. Others listened to the music and judged it on its own merit, or weighed whatever culture war issues swirling around the album as secondary.
But even for many of the folks who tuned out all the noise to hear the music of Snipe Hunter, it’s fair to characterize their reception for the album as mixed, or maybe even mixed to negative. This is not to say there isn’t genuine appeal in the album with certain listeners too. But generally speaking, the general public has mixed feelings about the album, especially when it comes to the production on certain songs.
For example, one massive Tyler Childers fan account on Instagram queried followers on their initial thoughts on the album. The two most liked comments read, “I want to love it so so much but it just sounds too overproduced to me,” and “I think this is probably his worst album yet and I hate to say it because I love Tyler.” And these opinions are coming from self-described Tyler Childers fans.

Despite the politically-tinged preamble to the GQ article and the puff piece nature of it, the article otherwise was quite thorough and articulate, including a lot of good biographical information about Tyler, his motivations, and the making of Snipe Hunter, including how songwriter Caroline Spence played a significant role in introducing Sturgill Simpson to Tyler Childers, ultimately resulting in Tyler’s big rise in music. The GQ article is probably the most detailed print featured on Childers to date.
Rick Rubin was the primary producer for the album—and a man that many music fans have a love/hate relationship with for making some of the greatest, and some of the most disappointing albums in the careers of favored artists. But as the GQ article explains, Tyler Childers also solicited the help of Sylvan Esso’s Nick Sanborn on certain tracks.
When they were done with the first batch of songs, the recordings went to Sanborn to, per Childers, “put the drugs on it.” Childers and Sanborn had stayed in touch sporadically since Sylvan Esso opened some dates for his Mule Pull Tour in 2024, and, one day, he got a text from Childers, who wondered if he might help put some production touches on the record. “This album needs to be weirder,” Sanborn remembers Childers writing. He’d never worked on a country project before, but it was a fast yes, especially when tasked with that kind of marching order. Childers sent the album opener, “Eatin’ Big Time,” and asked him to get to work. Sanborn did a pass.
“Nah, man,” Childers responded. “Go harder.”
“Then I just went,” Sanborn explains. “I was like, ‘All right, what if I totally do all this crazy stuff on it, and really have fun?’ And I sent it back. He said, ‘That’s perfect, and I just wrote four more songs. Let’s do the whole rest of the record.’” They worked for two additional days at Sanborn’s in North Carolina that fall, finishing the rest at Rubin’s Shangri-La studios in Malibu.
Sanborn aimed to take the songs to a place where space and time felt fuzzy. “Did it come out 10 years ago? Did it come out 50 years ago? What even is it? It removes itself from a point in time,” he says. Everett was then tasked with mixing to “paint a picture, not just get a snare drum to sound good.”
This insistence on “weirdness” is very specifically what is turning so many fans off of Snipe Hunter, while Sanborn’s attempt to insert time as a dimension to the music is what resulted in the inconsistent aspect of Tyler’s vocals on the album.
There is a very big difference between pushing the creative boundaries of country music and finding new avenues of expression, and simply being “weird” for weirdness sake while presenting it as “creativity.” The fact that some, if not most of Nick Sanborn’s “weird” production came after the fact as opposed to an organic part of the recording experience might explain why it hits so many ears as distracting.
But to a certain cohort of Tyler Childers advocates, there are only a few handful of excuses why anyone would ever find any fault in Snipe Hunter.
1) People hate it because its not 100% country.
2) The only want Tyler Childers to make Purgatory over and over again.
3) They’re inferior human beings.
This third excuse is what a certain segment of X/Twitter users have been leaning on especially, actively shaming anyone who dares say a negative word about Snipe Hunter in a very down-looking and elitist manner, which ironically, only feeds into a negative perception that Tyler Childers and his fans have become supercilious. The political quotient with Tyler’s music, and how it was presented via the GQ article certainly plays a role in all of this.
One particularly viral tweet claimed,

One of the ways an artist can break through all the noise and political acrimony is simply by making a great album, and shutting up their critics. Perhaps no performer is more polarizing in the independent country and Americana realm than Jason Isbell. But when he released his 2023 album Weathervanes to widespread appreciation and acclaim, even some of his loudest opponents fell in line, or at least fell silent, even if temporarily. Songs like “King of Oklahoma” created consensus with listeners.
Though the reception was a little more mixed, a similar sentiment can be said for Sturgill Simpson’s 2024 album Passage Du Desir. Though there were a few songs that were certainly “country” on the record, many fans were more permissive of Simpson bounding beyond country to rock and jam band moments because the music still came across as being made with sincerity, and exhibited true creativity in its scope as opposed to simple “weirdness” as a creative facade.
The “Nah man, go harder” decree by Tyler Childers on the “weirdness” is what pushed certain songs on Snipe Hunter over the limit, and has made the album a letdown to some, if not many, and frankly, for completely unnecessary reasons.
But that doesn’t mean the album is not without merit, or good songs. As Saving Country Music said in its 6.8-graded review for the record, Snipe Hunter still has some quality tracks as-is, a lot of good writing throughout even where the production gets in the way, and benefits from subsequent listens. Despite some perceptions, Snipe Hunter received a positive review here, just with some fair criticisms.
If advocates for Snipe Hunter and Tyler Childers really want to have an impact on public sentiment for the album, they shouldn’t be participating in ad hominem attacks on anyone who doesn’t like it, degrading them as stupid or inferior. Instead they should do what Saving Country Music’s album review did, which was speak to the strength of the songwriting, and say how subsequent listens tend to favor the album.
Unfortunately though, some people, especially on X/Twitter, are taking any criticism of this album as entirely incriminating, demanding fealty from listeners similar to Beyoncé Stans. Where a virtually universally-acclaimed album like The Price of Admission by the Turnpike Troubadours strengthens the independent music community, an album like Snipe Hunter divides it and weakens it from creating infighting and back biting.
If you believe in Snipe Hunter, participate in the conversation around it as opposed to issuing thought-terminating clichés about how uneducated people must be ignorant for hating it. Sure, in some instances, you’re right about the ignorance. But to many, they just don’t like the production, or the GQ article was the nail in the coffin, and they must be convinced to listen to the album despite the preconceptions.
But the primary reason Snipe Hunter has become the most polarizing album in country music all year (which of course, is hyperbole meeting hyperbole, because after all, it’s still only July), is due to the irrational head space politics breeds in people, and how the GQ article played right into that.
As one especially loud right-wing commenter said on the review for Snipe Hunter,
The idea that the right hates Tyler because he is for gay rights is not only an ignorant take it also is straight up disinformation. Prior to last week, conservatives had no issue being fans of Tyler Childers. Even given his open and public political stances up to that point.
Tyler even made that blm bulls-it album. And conservatives grumbled and thought it was a moronic take but they never abandoned him. Most conservatives just went on well he’s a silly pinko commie but at least we still have feathered Indians which fu-king rocks.
It’s also pretty much settled law for BOTH parties. The irony being Trump announced support of gay marriage in 2000 if not earlier. He was a friend of the Howard stern crew. Obama and Hillary didn’t support gay marriage until well into 2010 if not later.
The idea that the right hates Tyler because he is for gay rights is not only an ignorant take it also is straight up disinformation. I know this to be true because the reaction on the right to that music video a few years back was nothing compared to the reaction to the GQ article.
The writer of the GQ article, Marissa R. Moss, has a long history of participating in the failed political project that believes that if the media can simply compel country music artists to come out for left-leaning causes, this will create a blue political wave sweeping across America’s rural landscape. But as we have seen over and over and over again, country fans are way more apt to relinquish their fandom for a performer than their political ideologies often forged from birth.
This political project has not only been a colossal failure, it has been aggressively counter-productive, verified over and over again, especially through vehicles like the Tyler Childers GQ feature specifically. It is elite media, and political apparatchiks larping as country journalists that has very directly resulted in mainstream country going from politically agnostic in the aftermath of the [Dixie] Chicks cancellation, to now being a center-right mouthpiece, with major stars like Jason Aldean outright dining with politicians.
To read more about this very important topic, and how this political project only continues to reeve apart the country music community, you can read “The Failed Political Project To Reshape the American Electorate Through Country Music.”
You must convince people of the importance of political issues, which is a hard and arduous task, and best handled through the music itself as opposed to public pronouncements. You can’t insult and chastise people into submission, or expect them to change their political alignment simply by the goading of a pop star.
But even beyond the GQ article, Snipe Hunter is a curiously angry album. Whether it’s Christianity, Hinduism like the kind Childers embraces on the album, Buddhism, or some other spiritual guidance, a guiding tenet is that you get out of the universe what you put in it. Snipe Hunter starts off with an “MF” bomb, and Childers telling the story of hunting a billionaire for sport, while later braying on about his $1,000 watch.
The overcussing on the album is rather striking. If you regard the example tweet above from an individual referring to the “dumbest motherfu-kers in your high school,” you see directly how Tyler’s aggressive language and energy is being reciprocated back into the universe. And of course you’re seeing this same unchecked anger from detractors of the album as well. Snipe Hunter is extremely, extremely polarizing.
And how ironic it is that the problematic term “Indian” is what is drawing so much ire, when this album is full of triggering, problematic language that is completely superfulous to the songs themselves.
GQ calls the album a “spiritual and artistic opus” when the spiritual is only circumstantial—Hare Krishna chants in the background of a song. But with songs like “Bitin’ List” about going after haters, and “Poachers” where Childers utters self-referentially, “He’s the one with the video of the coal mining gays,” anger is really the most obvious human experience shared through the record, not spirituality. And what exactly do Koalas with chlamydia have to do with spiritual enlightenment?
You can blame political acrimony for the polarization of this album, you can blame Marissa R. Moss and GQ and the publicist that orchestrated that public relations debacle, you can blame Rick Rubin and Nick Sanborn for the shortcomings of this album. But ultimately, it’s the name of Tyler Childers on the cover of Snipe Hunter, not anyone elses. And once again, country fans are faced and confounded with an album that feels lesser than what we know one of the most important artists to perhaps ever ply the craft of country is capable of.
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July 31, 2025 @ 1:25 pm
Hey Folks,
Very sorry that the comments sections site wide were throwing 404 errors earlier today. I always appreciate reader feedback and encourage dissent and differing viewpoints, so it was especially unfortunate this technical issue arose after an article like this. But it should be fixed now. Please give a heads up if you’re still experiencing issues.
July 31, 2025 @ 5:01 pm
Tell me you are a bro country racist writer without telling me you are a bro country racist writer. It is only polarizing to the bro country Wallen fans that would not get artistry if it slapped them in the face.
July 31, 2025 @ 5:11 pm
Yep. This and the Florida Georgia Line comment are so perfect. I’m assuming they’re toll jobs. If not, they’re enacting the most spectacular self-owns in the history of internet commenting.
August 1, 2025 @ 8:57 am
I’d love to hear the original version of the album before the weirdness was introduced and reintroduced. It’s probably way better. I care not one iota about the politics — it’s all about the music and only the music for me, and that’s why the album is a disappointment. It’s seems to me Tyler is half the musician and sadly misguided (musically) when he’s not working with Sturgill. By the way, Passage du Desir is an amazing album that continues to get better with every listen – still.
July 31, 2025 @ 1:26 pm
Great analysis, trigger. Thoughtful article. Love this site. Appreciate the shout out, sort of, haha! 😂
July 31, 2025 @ 4:07 pm
Tyler lives in your head, rent free. Your entire screen name is dedicated to how much you think about him. It’d be hilarious if you weren’t so pathetic
July 31, 2025 @ 6:17 pm
And now his screen name lives in your head.
July 31, 2025 @ 1:26 pm
Great article. I’m glad you brought up the language. It felt super unnecessary from the jump. Bottom line is that this is not a good album. But he’s created an army of TylerStan’s that defend everything he does because he says the right things on the issues. If the album was great I’d listen to it regardless of how stupid he was.
July 31, 2025 @ 5:08 pm
The language comments are what people go to when they are pearl clutching and try to take things down. If you do not understand the poetry and artistry of this album and why the language is needed to emphasise his point I can’t help you
July 31, 2025 @ 6:19 pm
Pearl clutching?
Quick, get the smelling salts!
July 31, 2025 @ 1:36 pm
With Purgatory, Tyler could deliver songs that seemed to come up out of the world around him, and those songs had literary shape and were focused. He’s a fine writer and a great singer with just enough guitar skills to sit those songs nicely in a chair.
This he could really deliver. But now he’s decided, for whatever reason, that he should let his freak flag fly and do whatever he wants. Of course he’s free to do so, but I think as a result that he has become more of the focus of his songs, has started beating his own artistic chest, and now resembles a rapper more than a songwriter. I think Tyler has lost track of the real roots that made his music so strong. Those roots weren’t “personal.” They were much broader and deeper.
Tyler could deliver the songs of his landscape, but I’m afraid he can’t deliver the auteur version of “Tyler Childers, Psychedelic Appalachian Kerouac Dude.” He can try, and he’s obviously trying to let it all loose, but it comes off as juvenile, superficial, and cartoonish.
What we heard in the Purgatory days was not something we want to preserve in amber but the kind of soil we wanted to see more things grow out of. Tyler was the perfect person to sing that landscape into fullness, but instead we get this … goofing around. It’s disappointing because we know what Tyler, who is one of the most talented songwriters of his generation, is capable of.
People change. Sometimes not in the way we would wish.
August 1, 2025 @ 4:59 am
I thought the same thing after several listens – some of the lyrics almost seem like freestyle rap…sort of stream of consciousness. This album has me split down the middle. Even the songs I’m not fond of are very catchy, and get stuck in my head.
July 31, 2025 @ 1:37 pm
The track “Snipe Hunt” really sums this album up well for me. It was a song with some live videos out there, and almost all of them were just an acoustic guitar and the old, long-haired Tyler letting the lyrics speak. I always marked it as one that could be enhanced by the studio. Going to a new arrangement has worked for Tyler in the past. “Peace of Mind,” “Honky Tonk Flame,” and “Can I Take My Hounds to Heaven” all had album versions that I enjoyed, regardless of whether or not I thought they were better than their live counterparts.
I actually think the new arrangement of “Snipe Hunt” is good. It is just buried by the choice to, as one Youtube comment succinctly put it, “run it through a McDonald’s speaker.” Even though I like the idea and the lyrics, the result is too grating for me to return to. That is my early impression of every track outside of 3 or 4.
Some people are saying Tyler himself is the architect of the production issues. If you can survive reading the GQ article, though, you’ll see his first instinct was to clean out the backlog of his live-only songs. If he had paired that with a producer that would stop him from “making it weirder” then it would’ve been a success. The early reception to “Oneida” proves this. Rick Rubin is the exact opposite of that, and as a result some quality songs are marred by polarizing audio.
I don’t know who should go in the booth to fix this. A certain Mr Blue Skies would probably go right along with a lot of this “experimentation” at this stage of his career. I would like it to be someone who will tell Tyler “No!” when needed. But if he doesn’t want that, then I at least hope he backs off the vocal filters.
July 31, 2025 @ 1:53 pm
I feel like the GQ article redeems Rick Rubin, at least to some extent, and instead implicates Nick Sanborn as the culprit for a lot of the “weirdness,” especially when it comes to the vocal filtering. I review albums around here all the time from artists who attempt to play with “time” as a dimension where it sounds like a song or album was recorded many years ago, like the recent album from Jesse Lovelock. There is certainly a type of artistry there, but you can’t just do that with the vocals. It needs to be a more holistic approach to the whole track, the style of instrumentation, the guitar tones you choose. In this instance, it was just the vocals.
Frankly, I’m surprised that Rick Rubin would sign off on some 2nd party producer coming in after the fact and toying with these tracks. Not to say Rubin isn’t responsible for some of the decision making too, but when you have multiple cooks in the kitchen, you often make a mess. Unfortunately, that’s what happened here. The Rick Rubin tracks were much more cohesive. That’s how you have an album many find disappointing, but still with some good tracks.
July 31, 2025 @ 1:38 pm
Great breakdown.
To me, after a bunch of spins, the new album suffers due to odd vocal production and too much lighthearted/cheesy lyrics.
Tyler’s voice is the main appeal for me, so I don’t understand why they altered it on so many songs. It felt like forcing Jerry to play a 3-stringed guitar, or having Chick Corea play a 22 key kid’s Casio. They should’ve just ran with his voice as-is.
The lyrics are a lesser but related issue. He’s written some great lyrics before, so the sheer number of unserious-seeming songs was too much. Plus the gratuitous swearing.
Basically this album sanded off and minimized Tyler’s main strengths in too many places. Which is a confusing move.
I don’t care about politics with music but I can see the various points.
July 31, 2025 @ 2:56 pm
I agree on Sanborn being the main reason for the vocal stuff, but it doesn’t shock me that Rubin ultimately approved it. He’s pretty notorious for letting the artist follow their vision.
July 31, 2025 @ 2:57 pm
Meant to reply to Trigger above
July 31, 2025 @ 1:49 pm
Whenever the discussion about what to call Native Americans comes up I think of the George Carlin bit. Also if they don’t call themselves Native Americans or Indians, what is the difference which term we use? Is it changing anything by calling the homeless the “unhoused”? Switching to whatever the latest form of “approved” words are seems like the laziest form of activism. I am aware that Childers has done benefits for Indians and that’s great. I don’t see any reason to criticize him here but I can’t help feeling that avoiding the word ‘Indian’ is just dumb and meaningless.
July 31, 2025 @ 2:43 pm
When I covered Tyler’s appearance in Montana last summer for a Blackfeet Indian Tribe benefit and Indian Relay Races…
https://savingcountrymusic.com/this-is-why-tyler-childers-played-a-benefit-for-the-blackfeet-tribe/
…I asked numerous people if they wanted to be referred to as Native Americans or Indians, or something else. “We are the Blackfeet Indian Tribe” is what I was told.
There is an Indian/Native American songwriter from Oklahoma who I asked one time what language they prefer. “Indian. Feather not dot” is how they put it. And this was someone who was also opposed to using terms like the “Washington Redskins” and the caricaturist nature of some spots mascots, so they had thought about this stuff, and still did not find Indian offensive.
That said, I am sure there are some Native Americans who do find “Indian” offensive, and I respect that. I never want to inadvertently offend anyone.
But the problem is these rules seem so arbitrary, and often can be changed in real time to win online arguments in bad faith. “Queer” is immediately recognized as a euphemism. But for some reason, it’s okay for us now to adopt it to refer to any artist who is LGBT as “queer country.” I refuse to do so, because I was told not to use that word and it was offensive, and I also know that in the wrong scenario, someone will take my use of it, and use it against me opportunistically.
To me, “Queer” is way more offensive than “Indian.” But ultimately, it’s really HOW the word is used that should be deemed offensive, not the word itself. And often, it’s White people who find the most offense in these things, and feel the need to police language in ways that the people who identify with these groups don’t even identify with. See: Latinx.
We all know where the heart of Tyler Childers is, and it’s with the native people of America. I think many of them would agree that Childers should feel okay singing “Feathered Indians.” But if he’s not comfortable with it, that’s really all that matters. I respect that.
July 31, 2025 @ 2:55 pm
The few times I’ve interacted with a Native American I asked what their hertitage was because I just automatically assumed what tribe they were was their identity vs a blanket term for all “indians”.
With Childers my first assumption was maybe he’s just tired of singing that song – which I get.
July 31, 2025 @ 4:10 pm
In 1958, J.P. Richardson of Beaumont TX wrote a song called “Running Bear” for his friend Johnny Preston, left his disk jockey job to tour with Buddy Holly, and never came back. Mercury Records released the single, and it became a #1 Pop record. In 1969, Sonny James did a version of it, and it went to #1 Country.
Naturally, neither version is heard today because of the “I word”, but which is worse, saying the word “Indian”, or singing a song about two kids killing themselves?
July 31, 2025 @ 5:01 pm
It has a very dated sound – that’s why it’s not played today. Kaw-Liga is still one of Hank Sr’s best songs – not to mention the countless covers.
August 1, 2025 @ 9:48 am
Running Bear is a great little ditty.
That song isn’t going anywhere.
Parents have been singing it to their kids for decades.
Typical Shakespearean tragedy, involving the Montague – Capulet families.
July 31, 2025 @ 4:30 pm
P.S. Hey, Hank Jr. If they can successfully go after “Running Bear”, who do you think is next?
July 31, 2025 @ 5:00 pm
Was wondering if anyone was going to say this. Every Indian person I know prefers that term. Sure, some don’t, I get that too. His concern for people in avoiding it seems sincere, and I have no issue with that in itself. What’s head scratching though is that he’s bought into that one-sided narrative about it, and you would think he was slightly smarter than that. There’s more real, more nuanced commentary on the matter in these 2 comments here than from this “genius” songwriter who just wrote this amazing “opus.” His overreaction to that feels kinda like the bigotry of low expectations and he comes off more like “I support the current thing” than anything else. I’m just waiting for him to start writing songs about “birthing people” and lobbying for Colbert not to be cancelled.
And I don’t know what’s cringier, Moss using him for her political activism or him not understanding or caring about it.
July 31, 2025 @ 5:51 pm
I don’t think he’s purposefully trying to appease the “identity politics overlords” by excluding that song from his setlists. And who even cares if an artist makes a gay song in the 2020’s? It’s not groundbreaking and novel anymore. Bruce Springsteen had gay couples in the music video of ‘Tougher Than The Rest’ in 88′ – and that was at the height of the AIDS epidemic! (Multiple Country artists covered that song) There are other examples too.
None of us know Tyler’s true beliefs or how much pressure he feels to modify and censor himself from the people around him. There isn’t really any evidence.
It’s gonna be funny in 20 yrs when the Millenials age out and the culture shifts and the next generations ideologically rebel against the older ones. (like what’s happened forever) The socially-conscious woke people will be the next dinosaurs. The culture is already shifting to shift away from all that. Oddly enough the next incarnation of woke is the factions of Republicans who are banning speech against Isreal and the Jews – but I digress.
July 31, 2025 @ 6:28 pm
Plenty of Childers’ fanbase obviously weren’t pleased with the music video. It was clear from the reaction at the time and the fact that he pokes fun at it on this album shows that he’s heard it plenty.
I’d wager that the people checking out Travis Tritt’s version of Tougher than the Rest aren’t aware of the same-sex couples in the music video. Not quite as many Streets of Philadelphia covers.
July 31, 2025 @ 8:03 pm
Very well said Trigger
August 1, 2025 @ 8:29 am
The meaning of words and their appropriate use changing over time is nothing new. Sure, it can be annoying when words (like “Indian”) are in that gray area, but it’s unavoidable. 50 years from now, the usage of words like “Indian” will likely be well-established, but we’ll have a new batch of words making us go “is it ok to say that?”
July 31, 2025 @ 1:56 pm
The guy has reached flash-in-the-pan status with me. Glad I gave it a listen on youtube before sending more money his way, only to regret it again.
July 31, 2025 @ 2:05 pm
I wanted to like it but it is not a good album but after a few listens, it’s not bad. The songs are not the strongest and the production is all over the place. His last good album was country squire. His output since then has been disappointing, I have never understood why he and Sturgill have received such critical acclaim. For me, artists like Charley Crockett and Cody Jinks are much more consistent, make better albums and are far more deserving of critical acclaim.
July 31, 2025 @ 2:19 pm
Well, I for one have been listening to it nonstop since it came out. I agree it has its flaws and I get why some are disappointed, but I think it’s a fun listen.
I imagine Childers could simply rewrite “Feathered Indians” if he wanted to. (He tweaked the lyrics of “Nose on the Gridstone” for this album, after all.) But according to the GQ article, it seems him deciding not to play it anymore is the statement in itself. Lots of artists stop performing their biggest hits for various reasons, but like his unreleased “Jersey Giant,” “Feathered Indians” has become something of a country music standard with acts like Hailey Whitters and Maggie Antone covering it.
July 31, 2025 @ 2:19 pm
Good write up, Trigger. There’s a million reasons right now why Childers has become extremely polarizing. What is frustrating is that valid criticism of him is not allowed for whatever reason. As for me, his politics have nothing to do with my criticism of the album, it all comes down to production. Don’t get me wrong, Tyler seems like an extremely pretentious person and a terrible hang, and his reason for not playing “Feathered Indians” anymore is about the softest thing I’ve ever heard. But I don’t expect the artists I like to be like me or think like me. I like Tyler Childers because he is a phenomenal singer and songwriter, with an interesting way of saying things. Unfortunately his unique songwriting and way of delivering the words has been muddied up by the production, rendering them less effective. Which is a shame, because if you read the lyrics to the songs, there’s some really interesting stuff in there. And I for one was really excited for his first TRUE full length album since “Country Squire.”
I am a fan of rock acts like The Black Keys and the White Stripes having the muddy distorted sounds like they recorded in a garage, but it just doesn’t work with Tyler Childers’ music. I’m not sure if this is on Tyler or Rick Rubin, but I am extremely disappointed in the final product. And I’m not in the camp that thinks he should just release stuff that sounds like “Purgatory” his whole career. That album was lightning in a bottle, and I’d like to see him explore his sounds. But this album was a miss for me. It was so polarizing with my friends and I that I took it upon myself to rank and review the tracks on the album for fun and to try to make out what I really thought of the album. Overall I’d call it a 6/10 that could’ve been a 9/10 with different production and the removal of 1 or 2 tracks. Here’s my review for anyone interested.
13 Down Under
– It is a blessing to have people in your life who aren’t afraid to tell you when you’re wrong, or when you are being an idiot. True friends like that keep us leveled, which we most all need from time to time. However, after listening to “Down Under,” it has become abundantly clear to me that Tyler Childers is surrounded only by yes men. What else would explain the fact that this song was recorded and released and not laughed out of the studio? I hate this song, and the world is now a worse place for this song having existed. Even if the lyrics didn’t read like Tyler Childers just visited the zoo, the production sounds like it is from a completely different album than the rest of the songs. Shame on all involved.
12 Tirtha Yatra
– Ah yes, what originally got me into Tyler Childers many years ago. Songs about Hinduism. Self indulgent nonsense.
11 Tomcat and a Dandy
– It’s a shame that “A Long Violent History” Tyler Childers made his return for this song, because it ruined what was otherwise a really well written and sung song, and one that feels personal to Tyler. Someone needs to take his fiddle and give it to someone else. And the barroom chants in the background? This song physically pains me to listen to. Really would like to hear this one with a different arrangement, it could have been great.
10 Snipe Hunt
– It baffles me to think that the great Rick Rubin, the guy who produced Tom Petty’s “Wildflowers,” could be behind this abomination. This one really gets under my skin, because this song was really well written, and has a lot of energy to it, but Rick Rubin decided that it would be better if it just sounded like Childers was singing into a tin can. This isn’t garage rock, it’s a dadgum country album, and I want to hear the vocals, lyrics, and instruments. Yet again, an interesting song with great potential ruined by bad production.
9 Cuttin’ Teeth
– Not a bad song by any means, and feels a bit more like old school Childers, but… It simply bores me, and I have little desire to listen to it again.
8 Poachers
– Not the greatest song ever, and it wears out its welcome quick, but it’s a perfectly inoffensive Tyler Childers song. Yet again I feel like the production lets the song down, but it’s fun enough to get by.
7 Nose on the Grindstone
– “Hey, I have an idea! Why don’t we take one of the most beloved songs in my entire catalogue, re-record it for no apparent reason, and make it just barely worse in the process!” Yeah I’ll go listen to the original.
6 Getting to the Bottom
– Now we get to the point of the album where the songs start to get good. Pretty enjoyable if somewhat forgettable song, and I enjoy the production.
5 Oneida
– Song about a cougar. Feels like old school Childers in the best way.
4 Dirty Ought Trill
– Really fun song about a hunter. On my first couple listens to the album this one was probably my 2nd favorite, but after more listening I don’t particularly love some of the production choices. Still a really fun song, and will probably kill live, which I imagine is what the song was designed for anyways.
3 Watch Out
– Really like this one. The writing and production come together about perfectly on this song, which makes you wonder why the whole album wasn’t more in this vein. Feels like a natural evolution of Childers’ sound.
2 Bitin’ List
– If you don’t like this song then you’re on my bitin’ list. Enough said.
1 Eatin’ Big Time
– My favorite song on the album, and my favorite Tyler Childers song ever. Every once in a while a new song comes out that tickles my nuts in just the right spot, and this one does it. I am definitely going to play this song way too much for the next month until I can’t hardly listen to it anymore. Fun song in the best way, I love the southern rock type feel and the way Childers sings it. This song is so good that it almost makes me forget how aggravating and inconsistent this album is. 10/10 song.
July 31, 2025 @ 2:21 pm
A lot of people saying this album is a brilliantly creative work that underscores Tyler Childer’s evolution as an artist but I honestly don’t hear it. The songs are mostly lackluster, the “creative” production/ arrangement choices are overall aimless and boomy, and the album really lacks cohesion. I probably have a different opinion than some listeners but creative and precise production/ arrangement decisions should always be made to serve a song. When a song is mediocre and production decisions are made just to make a song sound “creative”, the wheels fall off of the whole project. I’m all for artists stepping into new sonic territory, just not like this.
July 31, 2025 @ 2:23 pm
I think the polarities involved in this album are multifactorial.
First, in my totally humble opinion, I believe that his enigmatic nature at this place and time has led people to think that he represents them in some fashion. Therefore, if he went in any direction that did not jive with people’s desires, “my Tyler” thinking rules and that will most often result in unhappiness.
Second, you have the Rick Rubin thing and even though taste is variable, you either love what they did or hate what they did.
Third, we are a culture of douche bags and we hate if someone does not believe the same thing as we do.
Finally, he is stretching the bounds of country at this time and it will always result in backlash.
I don’t want to ever hear the Australia song again, but that Hindu song presents with an absolutely insanely advanced melody is the furthest thing from affected. Like Cobain where he did not draw on any historical songwriting pleasures in so many situations.
Quit thinking his is your Tyler folks. You likely have zero idea who he is and smart dudes can come from super rural upbringings!
July 31, 2025 @ 2:27 pm
I’ve always it hilarious when there is backlash against artists like Childers and Isbell for being liberal and inclusive, as if these critics automatically assuming that just because Childers is a country artist and/or from the Appalachian region, that he’s naturally going to be conservative or a MAGA supporter. Or that because Isbell is from Alabama, he’s going to be a conservative or a MAGA supporter. Then they take it as a slight when Childers and Isbell turn to be open-minded progressives.
They can claim all they want that “well, it’s just because Isbell is so vocal and ‘condescending’ about it,” but Childers isn’t anywhere near as vocal or prevalently outspoken, yet they get pissed off at him just the same, even when it’s just a fucking music video or a statement on WHY he wrote “Long Violent History.” Still, they claim “i’M dOnE wItH cHiLdeRs, DuH hE wEnT wOkE. hE’s ViRtUe SiGnAlLiNg!”
It reminds me of when I went to a DBT show not long after the release of “American Band,” and when they had a “Black Lives Matter” banner on the stage, the guy next to me griped “I came for the music, not for their political statements.” I literally turned to him and said “dude, have you even LISTENED to the album? To ANY of their albums over the last 20 years?”
It was as if this was some vastly new development and they couldn’t fathom that a southern rock band from Alabama could possibly be anything but conservative.”
And then these same people complain when they get stereotyped themselves.
I can get how the music on “Snipe Hunter” could be polarizing: it’s different from almost anything Childers has done. With the exception of a few songs I immediately liked, it took me a few listens to really start vibing with some of them. So, yeah, I can understand why the album may not be everyone’s cup of tea.
But make no mistake: a large part of the populace is having their view colored by their displeasure that he doesn’t share their MAGA viewpoint and has had the audacity to make his viewpoint known. They’d prefer that he shut up and sing (and sing songs from “Purgatory” or “Country Squire”).
And also make no mistake that I think Travis Tritt is a total douche-nozzle. I still have his music on my phone.
July 31, 2025 @ 2:47 pm
I definetely think that’s a large part of it. I constantly hear people talking crap about Bruce Springsteen and writing off his entire catalogue because he’s a “big liberal.”
The is also a growing sentiment of fatigue around these banner terms like “Black Lives Matter” “Trans Rights” LGBTQ+A” “Ukarine” and “”Support Palestine” (I’m very anti-Isreal not that that matters here) because each movement doesn’t disown or vet the crazy people and outright falsehoods in each movement and more moderate-minded people are getting tired of having to pick a side and show support or “you’re on the other team.”
I guarentee the backlash against a Childers, Zach Bryan, or whoever is big now and a liberal darling would be 10x worse if they expressed support for Trump or said something against abortion.
July 31, 2025 @ 2:49 pm
I agree with a lot of this. But that is why I think the GQ article did such a disservice to Tyler Childers, and to “Snipe Hunter” by politicizing it on the eve of the release. Let the album live on its own merit. Sure, some were going to hate the album no matter what it was because of “gay miners.” But no need to stoke those flames. That mistake comes from a complete lack of understanding of the country music fan base. I’m not trying to excuse right wing political reactionaries. But their behavior was completely predictable, and the GQ article played right into their hand.
July 31, 2025 @ 3:38 pm
Trigger I think you put far too little blame on the real culprit, Tyler himself. He could have conducted himself in a way in those interviews that would have resulted in less of a reactionary and political response. He believes he has a message and stance to promote, and by doing so you risk and take on the responsibility when things go south or backlash happens.
I think this also plays into the aspect of the story about how artists nowadays view their role is to be an activist in addition to musician, which is a change.
But as I pointed out prior, the majority of country artists stay away from political stances because they know it alienates a portion of the fanbase. Most country artists stay out of discussing the election or the president, the current one and the past ones.
Tyler chose to speak overtly about politics to promote as you said an album that has nothing to do with politics. MAGA would still be listening fo Tyler right now had he not said what he said. So his actions were significant and very impactful. If the interview asked him about politics he could have said look, I’m promoting an album and I want to stick to that. I want all fans to listen and enjoy, part of the extreme reaction was because he seemed to go out of his way to say something political when he didn’t need to, and only hurt himself, it’s an own goal in the most shocking way. If my choice is to speak out and alienate half the country, or keep quiet and on private, on my own time volunteer and donate and help, while keeping all my fans, I’m choosing the 2nd option every time. Every single time.
His actions cost him and will continue to do so. If someone was pissed enough about the GQ interview why would they be interested in a follow up album or song? We won’t be. Just as the libs won’t be listening to any kid rock album going forward.
Tyler had a unique fanbase that was bipartisan and non political, despite who he is and his stances. Yet he blew it all up.
That’s colossally stupid. Moronic even.
It also shows how little or how much a political ideology can take before leaving. He’s said way much more inflammatory, partisan and political things in the past, even in song. That a toss off quote in a larger article for an album that isn’t political, and that this would be what cost him those fans is kind of remarkable.
I get that country outlets and media, Tyler’s label, pr and marketing, the author of the interview, GQ itself all are responsible, ultimately they all report what happens or is said, the person who caused the firestorm wasn’t any of those people. It was Tyler.
What’s funny is libs and maybe even Tyler himself see nothing wrong with all this, but the whole point is that it changed a dynamic in his fanbase that likely will never be healed or mended.
And it feels like such a betrayal in a way that him going in a musical direction you can’t vibe with or that he has an album or two you aren’t liking, both those you can get over.
This is earth shattering in a way neither of those would be.
Because you may dislike his last couple albums but you know next time he may rebound or he may go in a direction that appeals to you more. But the GQ thing feels like a statement of conservative Tyler fans can leave now and aren’t wanted. That’s quite a bit deeper of a statement.
July 31, 2025 @ 3:56 pm
Hilarious that you can blatantly Tyler for “the way he conducts himself” though you’re clearly a MAGAt and have no problem with our our POS POTUS conducts himself on a daily basis.
July 31, 2025 @ 8:47 pm
You have a problem with winning?
August 1, 2025 @ 12:09 am
You have a strange definition of “winning.”
August 1, 2025 @ 9:10 am
Can our our POS POTUS blatantly Tyler?
July 31, 2025 @ 6:04 pm
“I think this also plays into the aspect of the story about how artists nowadays view their role is to be an activist in addition to musician, which is a change.”
—> Which is to say that it’s a change if you have no perspective on the history of modern music, country or otherwise. Woody Guthrie and Pete Seeger obviously come immediately to mind. Bob Dylan may be the modern day poster child. Loretta Lynn highlighted how important a woman’s right to obtain contraception was. Dolly Parton wrote 9 to 5 about women’s rights in the workplace. Merle Haggard wrote Okie from Muskogee during the Vietnam War. John Prine wrote Your Flag Decal Won’t Get You into Heaven Anymore two years later. No idea what was going through Kris Kristofferson’s mind when he wrote The Law is for Protection of the People, but if I really had to go out on a limb and guess… I’d say he was meaning to make a political statement.
Man in Black is literally an activist song written about OUTWARDLY. BEING. AN. ACTIVIST. How people listen to music and don’t clearly recognize that the artists are often overtly advocating for or against things is baffling to me.
“If my choice is to speak out and alienate half the country, or keep quiet and on private, on my own time volunteer and donate and help, while keeping all my fans, I’m choosing the 2nd option every time. Every single time.”
—> That’s your choice. The next time you’re promoting an album, go ahead and do just that. But Childers (and every other artist) is free to use their voice however they see fit. In arguing against Childers making his positions more well known, rather than just the substance of his positions, you’re signaling your own desire to be coddled and protected.
Childers may very well (and I personally hope he does) recognize the utility in some young man in the holler seeing an artist advocate for a person’s rights despite them looking or loving differently than he does.
July 31, 2025 @ 6:48 pm
How about an old man in “the holler” Do they not count?
July 31, 2025 @ 3:46 pm
I finally read the GQ article and buried in the last paragraph or two is a reference to Tyler’s love of Ricky Skaggs- who is as open of a Christian conservative as there is in music. But you’ll notice that didn’t lead into a riff about how open-minded he is as a liberal spiritual pluralist to show acceptance for people who are different, because that wouldn’t suit the author’s agenda. I think doing one exclusive interview is a terrible way to launch a record anyway but the error is compounded when the author/outlet has such a one-sided perspective. Maybe if this had been one major story among several the conversation would be different…although then again I don’t know what major outlet wouldn’t have tried to write the same story these days. Was this writer picked because Tyler’s team wanted it this way or was it ill-considered? I don’t know.
July 31, 2025 @ 6:11 pm
Well look, it is GQ magazine and Tyler fancies himself a dandy.
“A dandy is a man who places particular importance upon physical appearance and personal grooming, refined language and leisurely hobbies. A dandy could be a self-made man both in person and persona, who emulated the aristocratic style of life regardless of his middle-class origin, birth.”
He is obviously trying to become nouveau riche.
“Nouveau riche, new rich, or new money is a social class of the rich whose wealth has been acquired within their own generation, rather than by familial inheritance. These people previously had belonged to a lower social class and economic stratum within that class and the term implies that the new money, which constitutes their wealth, allowed upward social mobility and provided the means for conspicuous consumption, the buying of goods and services that signal membership in an upper class.”
One look at his record cover and I knew it would absolutely suck.
The fact is Tyler is a class traitor and he quite typically compensates by embracing elite liberal pet causes and exotic and campy “theosophy.”.
Color me surprised though; all the vegans somehow tolerate his violent hunting lyrics, probably because he is talking homicide.
Tyler would not be out of place in the Manson Family. Charlie was also a dandy.
A criminal psychologist would have field day with old Red.
July 31, 2025 @ 6:27 pm
“Tyler would not be out of place in the Manson Family. Charlie was also a dandy.
A criminal psychologist would have field day with old Red.”
Calm down dude.
And I think it’s a fair interpretation of the cover to say that Childers is clowning on an archaic version of the bored and listless aristocratic life.
July 31, 2025 @ 6:37 pm
“The fact is Tyler is a class traitor and he quite typically compensates by embracing elite liberal pet causes and exotic and campy ‘theosophy.'”
In what ways is Childers a class traitor? I haven’t seen him be anything but supportive and empathetic towards impoverished and blue collar folks. Can you provide any support for this statement?
July 31, 2025 @ 8:23 pm
When you call him a class traitor you mean because he is rich and he votes against his financial interests and against this crop of conservatives right? Like because he voted against the people that just took medicaid away from a large portion of Appalachia? Because he voted against the admin that took disaster relief away from poor people?
July 31, 2025 @ 6:42 pm
Tyler has those eyes, like a doll’s eyes.
Tomcat and Dandy could very well be a paean to Jack the Ripper.
July 31, 2025 @ 6:43 pm
I was very careful to be fair with the work that Marissa R. Moss put into the GQ feature. Aside from its puff piece nature and the politically-inciting preamble, it was well-researched and articulate, and was nuanced in important moments, like the “Feathered Indians” commentary. It’s also not her fault that portion of the article was pull quoted so heavily.
But you’re 100% right that relying on one outlet, and one journalist to tell the entire story of “Snipe Hunter” was a catastrophic decision for this rollout, especially choosing someone who has an open-faced political agenda, and runs everything she does through that filter. But really, any of these “exclusives” are a disservice to the artist. This same mistake was made with the Turnpike Troubadours features, exacerbated by the fact that they were placed behind a paywall in Rolling Stone. But often these journalists or the outlets demand exclusivity, or they don’t play ball. That’s because it’s just as much about the clout the journalist wants to create for themselves as it is actually working to present the artist to the public in an objective manner. As you can tell reading the GQ, it was specifically catered to an elitist, left-leaning audience that had never even heard of Tyler Childers before. That might be fine for the clientele of GQ. It was catastrophic for Tyler Childers and his established sphere of influence.
The common denominator between all of these exclusive puff pieces is often the publicity firm Sacks & Co., which is extremely expensive for performers, and spend much of their time believing they can control the narrative around their performers as if it’s still 2014. As Country Chord, Country Central, and Whiskey Riff proved, it is they who control the narrative, not publicity.
I’m sure Marissa R. Moss, Sacks, and GQ are all high fiving each other for a job well done, because they’re cordoned off from the actual unwashed masses of country music, have no finger on the pulse, and only run in elite media circles where such puff pieces earn you great praise. But they let Tyler Childers and “Snipe Hunter” down here demonstrably, turned fans against each other, and generally failed at whatever they set out to accomplish, unless it was utter chaos.
July 31, 2025 @ 7:21 pm
From Catlettsburg to Bluefield, boys, I’ve seen and had a time
I gave my all and took my pleasures randy
Toe to toe, cheek to cheek, and waltz on a switchblade knife
I went about a tomcat and a dandy.
Toe to toe, cheek to cheek, and waltz on a
SWITCHBLADE KNIFE
What is he trying to tell us?
August 1, 2025 @ 9:14 am
Dandies are class traitors.
Straight up.
They put on airs.
Tyler is like JD Vance.
August 1, 2025 @ 10:46 am
I don’t think you understand what the term class traitor means. Childers hasn’t done anything (to my knowledge, and you’ve failed to provide any evidence whatsoever as well) to show that he’s hostile towards impoverished or blue collar people or advocating against their interests in any way.
I again invite you to provide some sort of proof.
July 31, 2025 @ 8:08 pm
Yeah but the politics of the Drive by Truckers music was much less “in your face” pre-American band. Modern Drive by Truckers music is all about taking the most extreme and divisive news stories of the day and screaming it out loud in a fashion that’s more akin to virtue signalling than actually trying to write a decent song.
August 1, 2025 @ 4:27 am
As a conservative I 100% agree with you as long as you have the same expectations of liberals when encountering a conservative artist. Now, I will also lambaste the Jason Aldean’s of the world who only perpetuate stereotypes about conservatives by releasing lowest common denominator eyeroll songs like “Try That in a Small Town.” I don’t expect anyone to have patience with drivel like that, and fully think conservatives should be tapping Aldean on the shoulder, saying “stop making us sound like a bunch dumb hicks.” That being said, I did enjoy his wife going getting into it with Maren Morris, who presents her viewpoints with absolutely zero tolerance for opposing opinions.
I love the music of most of the artists you mentioned and don’t really care about their politics. I saw DBT around the same time you did, although I don’t recall a BLM flag on stage. It was one of the best concerts I’ve ever been to. I don’t expect those two to present anything else if their music gets political, so I don’t really understand the person next to you at the show. Pay attention, dude. Also, American Band is one of my favorite albums of the past 15 years.
On politics for a moment: I grew up a liberal when there was still room for pro-life, Catholic, pro-traditional-nuclear-family liberals on that side of the aisle. Now I’m a hateful bigot despite the fact that I can graciously engage with opposing viewpoints and present my own views in a way that doesn’t condemn (because that’s not my job) but invites people to embrace the idea of a relationship with God. Without compromising his teachings or natural law. Where is the room for me and others like me on that side of the aisle? I found one chair where it looked like I could sit, but the people on either side of me said I had to support abortion or I had to leave. I found another, but the people on either side of me said “if you don’t support radical treatments for youth with gender dysphoria, you have to leave.” I tried a few more chairs only to find similar rhetoric surrounding me, so I, for lack of better phrasing, ‘left’ the left.
You factor in that most people on either side of the political spectrum don’t have the intellectual capacity, the emotional maturity, or the willingness to engage opposing viewpoints like this, and it’s no wonder this topic is so heated. The reason we spar and hyperbolize isn’t a mystery. How do we change that?
Lastly, on music and Snipe Hunter: I said in another comment on this thread that the quality of art is in no way changed by messaging within it or the viewpoints of the artist in question. I stand firmly behind that. I am underwhelmed and disinterested in most of Snipe Hunter and it has nothing to do with politics. It’s just not very good, even though it isn’t bad. What is the kids say? Mid? That’s where it lands.
August 1, 2025 @ 7:36 am
I like Tyler so much so that I partially named my first son Tyler with it in mind. I agree with you that it’s best to tune it out and that it goes both ways, but think it’s annoying both ways as well. Yes, i’m more conservative but I don’t want to hear my favorite artist talking about the border, economics and other abstract ideas. If I want to hear about politics I’ll listen to a politician. When I hear music I want to tune all of that out and get immersed in the story they are telling. Some of these artists make it very hard to do so.
August 1, 2025 @ 9:18 am
The Art is being able to thoughtfully cover the issues without being political.
July 31, 2025 @ 2:27 pm
I like his politics and I think this albums weird. I don’t know who to be mad at.
July 31, 2025 @ 6:13 pm
Be mad at yourself.
July 31, 2025 @ 2:49 pm
The portion about the music video is silly. It was 2023 – a video about a gay couple shouldn’t need to soften hearts or broaden perspectives. If the video would have been about a straight miner and his wife at home, no one would have even commented on it. There are and were undoubtedly gay men mining coal. He chose to shoot a video that told a story about of two of them. The only people that have a problem with that are the ones that don’t think they belong in our communities.
“It’s also pretty much settled law for BOTH parties.” Hilariously ignorant as an evangelical group today petitioned SCOTUS to overturn Obergefell. The Southern Baptist Convention last month voted to call for the overturning of Obergefell as well. Support for same-sex marriage amongst Republicans, in May of 2025, “has gradually edged down to 41%, the lowest point since 2016.” That may be an inconvenient truth for the person that posted that comment, but as someone once said “facts don’t care about your feelings.” State lawmakers throughout the country introduced measures to limit same-sex protections or outright called for the reversal of Obergefell. I’ll leave you to speculate as to where they land on the political spectrum.
Long Violent History is also far less about the Black Lives Matter movement and far more about empathizing with a community outside your own. That’s the thrust of the song. It’s about connecting communities commonly thought to be different by exposing how similarly they are sometimes treated and urges the audience to consider how their own community may react to something like Breonna Taylor’s homicide.
The simple reality is that much of Childers’ audience initially heard Appalachia in his voice and believed that he must have the same values and backwards opinions on things like same-sex marriage that they do. And when he showed that he was much more like Kris Kristofferson than Hank Williams Jr., it frightened them and made them uncomfortable.
Further and beside the larger political point, “the spiritual is only circumstantial” is so far from the mark I’m not sure you listened to or understood the album. There’s a song called TIRTHA YATRA. “I’d go to all the places, where NARADA stood, I’d read the BHAGAVAD GITA, I’d read the SONG BY GOD.” He literally says that he’s been changed metaphysically on the album. What argument could possibly be made that those references are circumstantial?
July 31, 2025 @ 3:58 pm
Right but evangelicals don’t run the country, my dude. Trump isn’t an evangelical. He’s not George w or Reagan or Falwell. In fact many of those folks refused to vote for him. Trump has never campaigned on overturning gay marriage, gay issues aren’t discussed at rallies overall and as I said, people like Blaire white. Milo, Dave Rubin, rob smith and the aforementioned ric grenell. Might be a surprise to Dave Rubin as a married gay man that he supports a party and president who oppose his marriage. That’s because the president and the party have no issue with gay marriage. It’s a dead issue to the party. Caitlin Jenner all are welcome and play or have played roles in pushing the trump movement forward. Peter thiel a gay man helped to fund the Trump campaign. Trump in 2017 was on stage with a lgbtq flag, and at the 2020 rnc trump remarked on stage that it was unique and stunning that the rnc would have openly gay speakers and trump would be running as a peace candidate.
There will always be opposition to lgbtq but it’s inaccurate to say it’s not settled. It is for Trump and he’s the figurehead of the ascendant movement here.
Trump has not once said he would get rid of gay marriage. He doesn’t care who you sleep with. The movement doesn’t either.
I think your error might be confusing the fact that Trump doesn’t spend much time at all talking about lgbtq issues in a traditional sense at all, as hatred or opposition to it.
We welcome all people into the movement. Doesn’t matter who you sleep with. This is a big tent movement in a way the democrats wish they were. Trump and rfk jr disagree on a lot including the vaccine, rfk jr is a democrat and still is, and he was welcomed by all to join. He’s beloved by us. Same thing for the lgbtq.
No one is trying to stop Dave Rubin from enjoying his marriage. And Dave knows this.
In fact he talks just the opposite that the left will call him names and sneer at him, yell at him, try to harm him all because he is a gay conservative.
You are verifiably wrong.
July 31, 2025 @ 5:28 pm
You’re mostly focused on one person and, ironically, evangelizing about his political movement. The data shows that the party’s support for same-sex marriage has waned and has again become the minority position. The people trying to reverse Obergefell are in that party. You may be supportive of same-sex rights. That’s wonderful. You are in the minority in your party.
It is also obviously not settled when there are so many politicians and activists petitioning SCOTUS to overturn a decade old decision. Using that logic, Roe would not have been overturned as it was also “settled.” The personal opinions of two gay gentlemen are immaterial to a larger discussion about party politics and the backsliding of support for LGBT rights.
July 31, 2025 @ 6:20 pm
And you are ironically focusing on fringe party figures and not one person who matters, the president. There absolutely is infighting in the party but anyone suggesting that it’s seriously being considered to be overturned isn’t in the party. Trump gained in every demographic and state in 24 including in states that voted Kamala. Literally everywhere went redder. Women who are pro choice voted Trump in some locations. In fact Trump is one of the most pro choice republicans ever. He rarely mentions it, he clearly likes that roe fell but that could also be just because he sees that he caused it. Trump and republicans could be doing a ton right now on the issue and aren’t.
Just because you want to stereotype the Republican Party in 2025 as being the party it was in 2000 is kind of ridiculous. It’s younger, more diverse, has a ton of women, blacks, etc.. all supporting. It’s also less religious, Trump doesn’t often mention religion, in fact he only really mentioned it in the campaign in relation to the butler attempt. He doesn’t quote Jesus or chapter and verse in rallies.
Are there some gop who want to do that overturn gay marriage? Sure, there are some democrats who are pro life and detest abortion, there are some liberals who are more conservative on racial issues etc.
This is trumps party at least for now . What he says goes. And he hasn’t ever said he’d overturn gay marriage. To suggest he would, you need some evidence. There is none.
There is no political capital for it either. Drag stuff and banning that? Sure, that’s absolutely popular but I think you are conflating that with this. Banning trans from sports doesn’t equal banning gay marriage.
July 31, 2025 @ 7:00 pm
You’re hyperfocused on Trump and jumping all over the place to somehow argue that Childers’ fanbase had no issues with a music video about gay coal miners. The data shows us that the majority of members of the Republican party do not support same-sex marriage.
Childers himself references the people that were unhappy with the music video. That alone highlights that folks did get their feelings hurt based on a music video that accompanied a love song.
There are a number of outright nonsensical and false things you mentioned, but none of them really have to do with Childers or the various responses from his fanbase, so I’ll leave those alone. (Although mentioning that Trump has the dubious honor of being one of the most pro choice Republicans and then in the next breath acknowledging that he takes pride in eliminating nationwide access to reproductive health is a personal favorite)
August 1, 2025 @ 10:15 am
Facts are facts. You seem like you just want to fight.
TDS isn’t an excuse for ignorance though.
Would like to point out that Pete Buttigieg literally yesterday said he gets why the right opposes trans in women’s sports. Pete is obviously a married gay man and not a republican but it’s clear why he’s saying what he’s saying. Rahm Emmanuel said the same thing a few weeks back. I kind of think both of these people are not bigoted, ignorant or anti lgbtq.
The polls showed that 80 percent of people agreed with the Trump campaign promise of ending trans in sports. Kamala said that was silly, so did the DNC. After Trump HAS done it, and 8 months have gone by in the new admin where he’s made it a priority, Rahm and Pete say they agree trans in sports is unfair and wrong.
How would this fit into your narrative? Your issue is your inexplicable conflation of anti trans in sports with being anti trans in general or anti gay marriage,
Those things don’t follow
July 31, 2025 @ 8:51 pm
I don’t understand how people think evangelicals run popular culture.
If someone disagrees with the LGBTQ movement, they are cancelled.
If someone insults Christianity, they are celebrated.
Says it all about which group wields the actual power.
August 1, 2025 @ 8:49 am
Yeah, I cringe whenever Trigger starts writing about “left” social issues like this. I try to give him the benefit of the doubt, but his attempts at coming across neutral and apolitical are usually laughably misguided. He’s like the boomers that take the position “I have no problem with gay people; just don’t be gay in front of me!”
I mean, come on man. Call it like it is. The only people who found that music video “inappropriate” were homophobes. Don’t hide behind this whole notion of it being “preachy, hectoring, parental, [or] down-looking” (much less the notion of ‘exposure doesn’t mean acceptance, so he’s not furthering this social cause in the most productive way possible!’).
He did the same thing when writing about American Aquarium’s Babies Making Babies, saying BJ Barham “arguably crosses the line when he presents a couple getting an abortion having to navigate through a sea of Christian protestors” which he says is not a common issue in America and “bleeds the subtly out of the song and renders it more polarizing[.]” Essentially ‘shut up and don’t mention issues that I don’t like or make me uncomfortable.’
August 1, 2025 @ 9:23 am
Some love to selectively read my work. A direct quote from this article is:
“outright homophobia was certainly part of the backlash against the video.”
There is no doubt homophobia is involved here. But I also gave a specific, real world example of how to some, if not many, it wasn’t the portrayal of a gay couple that made them uncomfortable, it was the preachy nature of it, whether that’s a fair accusation or not.
What is inarguable is that the video made Tyler Childers very polarizing. This is an important point to underscore to explain how we got here.
July 31, 2025 @ 2:49 pm
It also just wasn’t a major issue for anyone prior, there are political issues like blm which I oppose but I can clearly see the demand the public had for the movement and its goals. That’s part of why I said that conservatives stuck by Tyler in the past despite him at times being overtly political. As a conservative I wasn’t pleased at the long and violent history era and it isn’t a good album and has a bad message, but few conservatives washed their hands of him and said I’m done solely because of it. They still were listening to the next album and waiting for this one too.
This time feels different despite the statement being a few lines in an article, as opposed to a song or album rant about it.
I think part of it is it feels like an attack in a way even something like a Long violent history wasn’t. It feels like he’s actively giving conservatives the finger with the press right now, and that’s the problem, it’s personal to us.
And as I said I get it, that’s how lefties feel when aldean releases a new album. But even then it’s a little different. Aldean has no issue if you are liberal and a fan of his. Isbells explicit statements and the quote from Tyler more than imply they don’t want anything to do with conservative fans. That they aren’t wanted. You may feel yucky as a liberal liking Aldean and cringe if he praises Trump but he has never said if you are liberal get the hell out of my concert and stop buying tickets to my shows. In fact Amarillo sky is a classic to liberals too.
It’s bipartisan but Tyler’s “offense” seems more of an over Isbell dividing line statement about his conservative fanbase who he dislikes and wants to shed.
July 31, 2025 @ 3:31 pm
Is it self aware or weird at all calling tyler a snowflake when you’re the one who’s clearly got his feelings hurt by words?
July 31, 2025 @ 6:28 pm
And you are literally melting while hanging on his every word.
July 31, 2025 @ 10:13 pm
And you’re “melting by hanging on his every word”, whatever that means, and ad infinitum and on and on and on. Clever.
August 1, 2025 @ 9:21 am
Can’t even quote me correctly.
Take a remedial class.
July 31, 2025 @ 2:50 pm
Despite being pretty in tune with politics and a Childers fan, I never really thought of Tyler Childers in any political sense. He wrote a song about a gay couple, and had a song about BLM during Covid. Both were fine tunes sonically (and lyrically to me at least), but neither were nearly as popular as his Purgatory stuff. I didn’t think anyone cared about them (and honestly, few do).
The issue with Childers isn’t political. Politics may grab the headlines, but folks are turned off by the inconsistent and frankly odd output he’s had over the past 3 albums. If anything, politics is just a scapegoat.
His new music has been spotty at best. And he won’t play many of his old hits (Feathered Indians, Whitehouse Road, Jersey Giant). That’s a tough combo for fans on the left and right to get behind.
July 31, 2025 @ 3:17 pm
He still plays “Whitehouse Road.”
July 31, 2025 @ 8:52 pm
Artists who refuse to play the hits are snobs.
August 1, 2025 @ 7:12 am
As said by Don McLean, when asked to explain “American Pie”; it means I don’t have to work anymore.
And he lived by those words, even tho he did produce a lovely melody to “Vincent”.
July 31, 2025 @ 2:55 pm
1. Yea that GQ article sucked lol when it came out i immediately thought of your puff piece template. Such bold faced ass-kissing
2. Even so – rational, mostly offline people should not be getting that worked up over an artists views one way or another, be it childers, isbell or aaron lewis
3. Trig i think you need to stop quoting random instagram and twitter comments in these articles as examples of the general public opinion. Top comments are just the most inflammatory comments because they drive engagement and by definition can only represent an extreme opinion.
4. Never really understood how the in your love music video is condescending or preachy. Its not like it targets or excludes anyone. For example, its not like gay people should feel condescended by a music video about straight people, so it shouldn’t be vice versa either
5. The album itself was cool and interesting in some ways and other songs were ruined by the random and misguided vocal processing. EBT is a banger. Cuttin teeth, poachers would be a banger if he didn’t sound like a completely different singer. I see why others wouldn’t like snipe hunt but i dig it.
based on that article, the error lies more in the mixing phase than in the recording phase: sanborn, not rubin
Overall its lame and sad to not be able to listen to music purely for the value of the music, but that choice belongs to the individual.
Cant wait for this new jermy pinnell record because he rips really hard
July 31, 2025 @ 3:11 pm
I agree that highlighting social media comments and other such anecdotal things is an imperfect way to gauge public sentiment. If I was Rasmussen, then maybe I could conduct a scientific poll. But I’m not. What I was trying to illustrate though is that there is general negative sentiment out there tied to this record, including opinions that have nothing to do with politics. Especially on X/Twitter, but other places as well, you have certain loud voices who want to make any criticism of Tyler Childers whatsoever verboten, shame people into silence, and seem generally shocked that ANYONE would think this album anything less than stellar, and set out to aggressively discredit anyone for sharing others opinions. This is what happens when people embed themselves in social media echo chambers to the point where they’re triggered any time they see someone with a differing viewpoint.
I think it’s imperative we leave channels of communication open between independent country fans. We discuss things like this album so in-depth because we care. And generally speaking, we’re all more like-minded and down for the cause of independent country than we are at each other’s throats. So stop cutting people down just because they wished Tyler vocals were so fuzzy on a few songs here.
July 31, 2025 @ 3:18 pm
Woah i’m not cutting anybody down! I agreed with the vocal criticisms in my comment!! Even though i do think snipe hunt works
Jeremy pinnell rips
July 31, 2025 @ 3:23 pm
Not saying you’re cutting anyone down Jim Bones. That’s more about some of the viral reactions we’ve seen on Twitter and other places. I appreciate your insights.
August 1, 2025 @ 12:37 am
I feel like we should be friends. Even though Trigger thinks we are the same person.
Again, you nailed this bullet point review of the situation. Bravo.
Also, all hail JP. Can’t wait for Decades.
July 31, 2025 @ 2:56 pm
I was, like I’m sure many here were, introduced to Tyler’s music via Shooter Jennings Southern Independent compilations back in 2011. Been a big fan of Tyler’s since but would love to see a full circle moment with a Shooter produced album. I feel like he could be the one who could make the songs speak for themselves.
July 31, 2025 @ 3:02 pm
I too wish Tyler Childers would go back to sounding more like Georgia Florida Line. Things should just go back to the way they were in the good old days when everything was the same. Different don’t hit. Country music doesn’t need artists. We need singers. That’s why I love Georgia Florida Line and love this brilliantly articulated article.
July 31, 2025 @ 5:42 pm
In case anybody doesn’t get this (pretty sure trigger quoted it above as if it was for real)… You should check out Matt Hlldreth’s work.
July 31, 2025 @ 3:12 pm
Flogging a dead horse.
July 31, 2025 @ 3:16 pm
Question for the lifelong country fans: was it this polarized and crazy in 50s-80s? You look back at the wild times back then, George jones and Tammy meeting with George Wallace, Willie meeting Carter, Johnny cash speaking out against Vietnam and for prisoner rights, Hank Jr seemingly speaking for the Reagan era conservative, etc, that the average states and fan was able to separate art from politics and their own politics from an artists in a way that we no longer can.
Now it seems like the dividing line that determines what genre you like, and what albums you like, what artists you like is purely politics. Who did you vote for and I can tell you what artist you like or dislike. If you are conservative you won’t dare listen to isbell and if you are liberal I’m going to go on Spotify and create a playlist entitled “I’m a liberal, don’t judge me, but still enjoy some country” filled with all liberal artists.
I admit a huge part of why try that in a small town was so huge was us conservatives streaming that for a week straight to make clear to liberal country, hey this is what we want and this is our statement. Oliver anthony’s rise is solely as a result of right wing influencers posting his song to other right wingers and the fun partly or maybe even largely was the meltdown from the libs when they heard his message (even if he turned out to not be as huge or as partisan as either side thought)
When will this trend change of partisan music listening? When did it start? I think Trump is the driver of all things this included but I think it outlasts him because had Kamala won it’s not like Aldean and Coffey Anderson and kid rock would have just shut up and called it a day in terms of their music or message. And conservatives still would have flipped out about his GQ interview even if Kamala was in the White House now.
I think it’s just how culture is now. Politics is 24/7 in a way that it wasn’t back then. That George jones could meet with George Wallace and it’s never brought up now and didn’t stain his legacy is kind of stunning, that would have ruined his career now. Just that alone let alone that craziness of his personal life, you’d have country central reporting on all of it in real time now.
I think the truth is back then politics was just one aspect of life. Now it is all politics all the time even for music that isn’t political at all. That one interview overshadows an album nowadays says it all. And Morgan’s SNL actions defined the news for a week in the way Tyler’s quip did.
So I don’t see the political aspect changing and I also don’t see fans changing either. Either side wants art that conveys their own biases and views. If you are liberal you want Tyler shaming those ignorant racists who carelessly use an outdated demeaning word and self flagellate because of your own past indiscretions, and if you are conservative you want lefties to shut up and for Aldean and Morgan to own the libs and promote your ideology.
The crossover has no currency in today’s world. You aren’t going to be a liberal who hates Trump but can admit Amarillo sky is a banger and Aldean is good, and if you are conservative you burn all your Isbell records.
Which is part of why the Tyler case is so unique. He’s political but up until this week had a bipartisan fanbase. Which is very rare. He was for the most part isolated from that polarized discussion despite being an open leftist in a way that probably only Willie is.
I feel like all this continues. A conservative artist will no doubt release a song praising Trump ala Brian Kelley or Anne Wilson and liberals will act like us conservatives are acting now, and then the cycle continues.
July 31, 2025 @ 3:21 pm
The album sucks, period. There’s a large and annoying group of online fanboys/girls who are ready to argue because Tyler’s music sucks. Paid bots or just annoying youngsters with nothing better to do.
July 31, 2025 @ 3:25 pm
I’m certainly not on Childer’s side of the political fence, but man it’s lazy to hate on something because of that if the tunes are good, especially if it isn’t overt in the songs. I can listen to JP Harris or Nick Shoulders just fine, even if I wish they’d keep their politics to themselves. Go touch grass, as they say…and some folks need to grow up some too.
This album sucks because the songs aren’t good. There are a couple of good tunes there. I liked Bitin’ List. But there is far more bewildering garbage (Down Under, Snipe Hunt). The production is awful. Half the songs are filtered through a bad effects box. And no, I’m not some kind of purist. I listen to plenty of electronic music too. If I want to criticize Childer’s for his politics, it’d be that he should spend more time on the fundamentals and less time ruffling feathers.
Bottom line, there is too much good out there right now to waste time on the mediocre, even if the artist has prior success. What he’s doing isn’t for me. Listen to Snipe Hunt if you want — My time is better spent on recent releases from Weldon Henson, JRW, Jesse Daniel, The Shootouts, Tami Neilson, etc.
July 31, 2025 @ 3:30 pm
A well-known country musician recorded a rather mediocre album. He featured gay men in a video. He stops playing a popular song because he no longer likes parts of the lyrics. Nothing more. And people discuss it as if their way of life or the future of their country depended on it. The discussions about “Snype Hunter” are completely crazy. Guys, do something nice, get some fresh air, have a barbecue with friends, or something like that. There is so much good music in the world. If you don’t like Childers, don’t listen to him.
July 31, 2025 @ 3:36 pm
That was a well-researched and well-presented article. This and the comment section of your first review of this album really show one thing: any discourse about anything in the US has become over-politicized and, partially because of that, overly polarized.
Anger and outrage are the emotions that flood social media, in fact social media thrives and reinforces these emotions, even though they are the most detrimental emotions for a functioning society. I remember times when tolerance, respect, and exchange of different points of view, even reaching a compromise, were considered virtues. Today everything is black or white and if you don’t agree with everything I say you are my enemy and insults are all you’ll get from me.
The USA used to proudly describe itself as a “melting pot”, which then brought forth one of the most successful societies on this planet. Now it has become polarized about everything, even something as simple and inconsequential as a record of songs by some guitar picker.
Remember the old Roman idea of “divide and conquer”. Well, as a society we seem more divided than ever (and social media are reinforcing this every day) – maybe we should ask ourselves who might be taking advantage of that to conquer us while we are busy arguing?
Just a thought.
(An afterthought on the album: it gets better on subsequent listening, but the hare krishna chants do remain a bit tiresome… 😉
(Now that your comment section is working again, after I wrote the above, I must say that the comments section to this article is much more reasoned than the reactions to your original review…)
July 31, 2025 @ 4:09 pm
Love the album. He keeps moving, never standing still something real artists do. Could be best of 2025.
July 31, 2025 @ 4:13 pm
no less self aware than the libs who said within hours of the release that the album was the best album of the year and a stunning country statement. Those people as trigger points out did so purely because Tyler is a leftist. Not based on the music, not based ob the songs, but because Tyler represents their views, and it’s also no different then the self awareness of leftists who whenever Aldeans wife posts something they run to twitter to say she’s ignorant. Or those who flipped out because hulk hogan spoke at the rnc.
My comments have been bipartisan in the critiques but if you can’t see the irony in trying to pown me, while ignoring the absolute liberal salt mine that existed when Morgan merely said “get me to gods country”, then you are lost, dude. How many think pieces were written by leftists that week about how evil and sinister Morgan and republicans were because of what Morgan said.
So maybe cool it with the self righteous talk.
July 31, 2025 @ 4:39 pm
Maybe cool it with electing pedophiles.
July 31, 2025 @ 4:23 pm
Like I said over on Twitter:
No, it’s the fact a large portion of America is in love with being constantly outraged. You know, kinda like our current POTUS or you judging by the tone of how your try to pick apart anything “liberal” in your article.
Every time there’s anything halfway political you shoot your wad of right leaning bullshit. Go look at the Isbell posts you’ve made.
“Some are even disappointed or furious with Isbell because he presents such a decidedly illiberal perspective for someone who purports to hold progressive views, sullying the integrity of such views since he’s such a public figure.”
Kyle, you left receipts.
And this: “Meanwhile, these actions are unequivocally hurting the causes Jason Isbell claims to be championing, while simultaneously polarizing the music space for everyone, turning off even supporters of his music, and his beliefs.”
The wannabe Charlie Kirk act has gotten old.
July 31, 2025 @ 4:47 pm
Here’s another receipt for you, from this very article:
“One of the ways an artist can break through all the noise and political acrimony is simply by making a great album, and shutting up their critics. Perhaps no performer is more polarizing in the independent country and Americana realm than Jason Isbell. But when he released his 2023 album Weathervanes to widespread appreciation and acclaim, even some of his loudest opponents fell in line, or at least fell silent, even if temporarily. Songs like “King of Oklahoma” created consensus with listeners.”
Jason Isbell is WAY more politically active than Tyler Childers, by leaps and bounds. But when he released “Weathervanes,” his critics had no choice but to shut up. If Tyler Childers had released a top-level album, few would be talking about his political stances, or the GQ article, and few would be griping about “Feathered Indians.” A great album will shut everyone up. Unfortunately, “Snipe Hunter” was not a great album.
…and you’re participating in the very kinds up ad hominem attacks I spoke about in the article.
July 31, 2025 @ 6:05 pm
You expect us to believe his critics shut up?
Wow. You are more far gone than I thought.
July 31, 2025 @ 4:53 pm
This is an absurd take, especially given I am a Kirk fan. trigger repeatedly shoots down the conservative arguments in comments. He isn’t a fan of Morgan, would guess he isn’t a Aldean fan. Yet is a huge Isbell fan. If he is a Kirk fan he’s never announced it on here. Kirk probably wouldn’t praise Isbell or Rhiannon giddens, just sayin.
The conservative poster he quoted in article is one he frequently disagrees with. I can tell you this, because I am that poster.
In fact I remember it might have been the Morgan album post in the comments he said something like I find a lot of the far right comments offensive and over the line but that the comments are the only place on the internet to really discuss country in this way. And he’s correct.
If he’s conservative, I did it odd because he constantly disagrees with my takes. He still criticizes Morgan for his past and current actions.
My main argument was that Tyler was pretty much solely to blame for what’s transpired, trigger seemed ti blame everyone but Tyler. So yeah, I don’t think trigger is overtly as political as you said. If he was, sure would have made my posts a lot better since half those were in response to trigger and critiquing him.
He literally said he deleted some of my posts in that section. Trigger mentioned politics in the article but I think I was the first poster to mention politics in the comments and he still disagreed with me and seemed to want to move the conversation away from politics and towards the music. Seems odd he’d do that if he were a republican like myself. So your critique of him is baseless. He pushed back on nearly every right wing point I had.
August 1, 2025 @ 7:25 am
“No, it’s the fact a large portion of America is in love with being constantly outraged. You know, kinda like our current POTUS or you judging by the tone of how your try to pick apart anything “liberal” in your article.”
You’re so outraged at Trigger’s piece that you can’t even see your own hypocrisy.
July 31, 2025 @ 4:28 pm
Very well written, thanks Trigger. The GQ piece is trash, I think most can agree on that—as is all the belittling coverage of country musicians in the mainstream press, especially the one you responded to by the NYT in May. That being said, and I think an important piece that shouldn’t be understated is that this music is now in the mainstream culture, which presents positives and negatives ( not to mention twitter/social media etc). Alternative country like Childers, Zach Bryan, Isbell, Sturgill is no longer a niche musical genre as it may have been when I first hopped on in the mid 2000’s with Hank 3 and his universe— the music is also much different. As some commentators have already stated, we’re not necessarily entitled to the “MY TYLER” narrative, the idea that he should play versions of Shake the Frost over and over. Does that mean that abandoning the original fans is permissible? Absolutely not, but it does mean that people are going to write what they’re going to write and their music will mean something more than they may have intended. How much is Childers responsible for alienating his fans? I don’t know, people seem pretty upset about his GQ interview which is understandable. But the guy also has given back to his community by creating the Heal Appalachia festival which I think is relevant. I don’t generally judge an artist according to his/her personal life but donating money back to the community you got rich writing songs about is a pretty classy move to me. There’s always been a push and pull between musicians who have a passionate fanbase. Who gets to dictate someone’s artistic output? Also, sending my Indian (the country) mother-in-law who has a background in Indian classical music and dance a country musician’s take on sacred Hindu scriptures was not something I expected this week and does go to show that some of these “meaningless self indulgent” artistic leaps do have positive real world affect independent from mere identity politics. She loved the song. That being said, anyone is free to not like or like whatever the hell they want, just a personal anecdote. As far the album, it gets better with each listen for sure.
July 31, 2025 @ 9:27 pm
It’s funny though too, because Eatin’ Big Time is probably the most “redneck” sounding song he’s ever put out. And he opened with it. Violence, swearing, hunting, southern idioms, southern food, rollicking guitar and organ.
July 31, 2025 @ 10:08 pm
sorry last thin and no disrespect but, we’re really complaining about cussing? This site started w/ Hank 3’s records.
July 31, 2025 @ 10:24 pm
This topic has come up in numerous articles recently. I definitely don’t want to forbid cussing in country music or anything else. At times, it’s imperative for getting a point across. The F-bomb in Jason Isbell’s “Elephant” is a great example. Hank3’s whole thing was defining the line of decency in country, and then purposely crossing it.
Here’s, the Childers cussing just feels gratuitous at times, and out-of-place. It doesn’t mean he can’t cuss. But the way it bookends this album does feel excessive, at least in moments.
The deeper point I was trying to make is SOME people find cussing offensive, just like the word “Indian.” If you worry yourself about offending people, perhaps Tyler should have worried a bit more about this as well.
August 1, 2025 @ 6:08 am
This is sort of a silly take. He’s not going around telling people not to use certain words; he’s just explaining why a particular song he wrote doesn’t feel right rolling out of his own personal mouth anymore. Likewise, Long Violent History doesn’t have a thing to do with the finances of any particular 501(c)(3) – he’s just describing what the world looks like from his perspective, and owning it as such. I quite like this album (with the exception of Dirty Ought Trill, which I keep expecting to jam into Cotton Eyed Joe) but I can’t really fault anyone’s criticism of the production.
August 1, 2025 @ 9:33 am
Childers is making a caricature Hank III and of proud hillbillies in general.
He is a sophisticate, a multicultural elitist dandy studying Hindu theology and raising funds, with a practiced tear in his eye, for poor indians to supplement their grubby casino earnings.
July 31, 2025 @ 5:00 pm
When I was a young man I was a huge Green Day fan. Was so excited when American Idiot came out bought it on my way to work. Listened to it the first time didn’t like, listened to it a couple more times still thought it was a trash album with maybe one or two decent songs but I would never have made a choice to listen to it over Kerplunk or Dookie. Then when it got all the acclaim as the best Green Day album ever I tried to listen to it again and I just thought it was terrible. I feel the same way with this album. I see no reason why I’d play it over Purgatory or Bottles and Bibles, and I assume if I go back and listen to it in 6 months to a year there will be two good songs and the rest of this album is trash.
July 31, 2025 @ 5:04 pm
Come on… the “Are We the Waiting/ St. Jimmy” leading into “Give Me Novacaine/ She’s a Rebel” still slaps. haha
July 31, 2025 @ 8:11 pm
Brother, you made a great comparison, two comeback albums that injected life and longevity into massively popular bands.
Unfortunately for you, you’re wrong about both.
August 1, 2025 @ 12:02 am
Well the beauty of music is it’s subjective.
If 10 years from now you think Snipe Hunter is Tyler’s magnum opus you can listen to it then throw St Anger on and jam out to it too
August 1, 2025 @ 5:09 am
Music taste is subjective. Numbers and commercial legacy are not. We’re talking about a #1 Billboard album that became so culturally iconic that it was adapted into a Broadway musical.
Green Day is still headlining festivals 20 years later off of the lasting success of American Idiot. Look at any set list they’ve played in the last 20 years on any major bill and tell me I’m wrong. Compare that to Metallica’s relationship with St. Anger and see if it holds up.
Saying “This is awful” when you mean “I didn’t like it” are two very different things.
Do I think American Idiot is Green Day’s best? No, I’m an Insomniac guy, myself. I do think it’s Top 3 in their catalog, and came after a brief period of lesser records. It’s pretty much the exact way I feel about Snipe Hunter. That’s why I loved the comparison.
Time will tell how successful Snipe Hunter ends up being. I know I’m seeing a lot of non-music nerd buzz on this album and that’s usually a great leading indicator for an arena/stadium act like Childers.
August 1, 2025 @ 7:49 am
…I like St. Anger! It’s also weird but it has its moments.
July 31, 2025 @ 5:30 pm
Y’all sound like Dylan fans shouting “Judas!”
July 31, 2025 @ 6:33 pm
Childers in no Dylan.
July 31, 2025 @ 6:19 pm
I self-identify as a Social Democrat. Ted Nugent’s political beliefs are not only abhorrent to me, but I believe he should have been arrested for some of the things he has said on stage over the years.
I still almost have to listen to the live version of Great White Buffalo about once a week.
I bet my political beliefs dovetail nicely with Sabrina Carpenter’s. I’d rather have nails driven into my ears than hear her music.
If you don’t listen to music because of the artist’s political beliefs, you are a fucking idiot. If you listen to an artist’s music because of the artist’s political beliefs, you are a fucking idiot. Listen to music because you like it. It’s not that hard, people.
As to this album, it’s not horrible. The worst songs have been identified above by Robert Lee. Skip Down Under and Tomcat and a Dandy and the rest is fine. If Tyler is supposed to only make “Red Barn” music, just go listen to those releases.
August 1, 2025 @ 7:02 am
Entertainment was much more enjoyable before the advents of the Internet and social media. Previously, the output spoke for itself without the need for outside commentary. Now, despite entertainment being more accessible than ever, the concerns of what actors, artists, and journalists believe about political and social issues are amplified a thousand fold. In addition, when you do follow an artist outside of just the music and realize they personally detest your political and social leanings, it can sting while echoing the whole “don’t meet your heroes” thing.
I have found that I can appreciate media way more when I don’t do the Internet deep-dives on leanings and biases, though it’s becoming harder to avoid. As you said, enjoy (or don’t enjoy) the music based on personal tastes, not based on the political leanings of its creators, and to an extent, “ignorance is bliss”.
August 1, 2025 @ 8:30 am
I actually think we reached the peak of the politicizing of musicians, actors, and public personalities during the pandemic, and now, much of society has moved on from the worst of that. One of the things that struck me about the GQ profile and even Marissa R. Moss’s writing specifically is how it felt like a relic of a past when the press was lauding people for their political stances above their music or acting, and how much of the press has moved on from that era. Even the GQ piece didn’t obsess over it like a Marissa R. Moss feature would a couple of years ago. There is a sense that the media does not represent the people it serves, and a pulling back to a more even-keeled perspective out of necessity and survival.
July 31, 2025 @ 9:21 pm
What’s forgotten about in the world of art is that quality is in no way affected by whether or not one agrees with a specific message in the art or, moreso in this case, the stances of the artist. I am a devout Catholic and therefore more conservative than liberal due to specific issues, although I have issues with both major parties. I still enjoy many liberal and sometimes radically liberal artists. The quality of the art reveals itself–I don’t need or even want to filter it through an ideological lens. This album doesn’t even contain overtly political themes, so there’s not even much of a prompt to bring politics into it. I don’t read GQ and am not starting today.
Snipe Hunt is fine. It’s not great. It’s not terrible. I think most people who are honest and not evaluating it through a political lens come to that conclusion.
August 1, 2025 @ 12:03 am
Fuck this guy and his politics. Everything since Country Squire has been pure garbage. Dude is a weirdo and freak. Saw recent videos where he looks touched and deranged performing. Hope his fans abandon him and his sorry ass relegates all the way back to playing dive bars because he has such little support. Maybe then he’ll pull his head out of his ass.
August 1, 2025 @ 2:58 am
I read the comments here. I read posts from many Independent-, Red Dirt- and Neotrad-Country artists on their social media. And by that I don’t just mean the “usual suspects” and those ostracized by some like Sturgill Simpson, Tyler Childers or Jason Isbell, but also artists who are considered apolitical or rather conservative.
And I can only come to one conclusion: politically and in their general views, the artists are much more open minded, relaxed and pluralistic than many of the fans of their music.
August 1, 2025 @ 4:19 am
…i recommend to listen to albums from sturgill, isbell and childers always with fresh ears. each of them already has a milestone album under his belt, hence they know that chasing this over and over is most likely a lost cause. therefore, they go on and always try to come up with the best album they currently have in them. that works rather nicely for all of them actually. if some fans want to be staying stuck in the past, that’s not the artists’ fault. listening to “snipe hunter” afresh and without any bias leaves you probably concluding that this is a fine modern take on country music. well done, albeit not a milestone, which are by definition rather rare occurrences.
August 1, 2025 @ 6:33 am
This just isn’t true in every case. Fresh ears and a clean slate don’t turn mediocre music into great music.
August 1, 2025 @ 6:48 am
Childers music has become secondary to his political status. Reading some of the comments above shows this to be true. Those who agree with his politics will defend and elevate his output to god like levels despite the obvious truth. Those that disagree with his politics will dismiss his music without listen and criticize the man.
I can say that my political beliefs are definitely different than those of Childers. I thought Long Violent History was a bit arrogant and a rip off for fans, and his soapbox video trying to explain it was just insulting. Despite this, and the gay video, I don’t really find Childers to be as off putting as guys like Isbell or Stephen King who show a disregard and self righteous elevation over their fans. As if becoming a successful artist makes you somehow smarter than the average citizen. Childers seems to be a well meaning guy with some hangups about where he’s from, and the new world of fitting in with the group think social status of becoming an overnight star.
All that said, anyone listening to Childers output without a political filter would be hard pressed to argue that he has released anything slightly comparable to his first two releases. Childers seems to be floundering for whatever reasons to forge some new musical identity. Unsuccessfully in my opinion. And that’s a shame.
August 1, 2025 @ 7:10 am
Good music is good music. I personally don’t care about the politics of a musician I like. Ted Nugent is an a-hole in my opion but Stranglehold is a banger for sure. I don’t think I’d care to hear him preach live (or anyone on the left either…looking at you Bruce Springsteen) but I still listen on occasion.
Social media has made politics the national sport and we are not better off as a result. Cancel culture sucks no matter who is doing the cancelling and who is cancelled.
All of this for an album that is really nothing special.
August 1, 2025 @ 7:18 am
My two cents, for what it’s worth.
It’s not the gay miners thing that got people upset. It was the deliberate, intentional choice to re-interpret the history of a region according to values favored by a modern, cosmopolitan elite disconnected from it, and which cared little for it. Miners and their stories form a heroic part of Appalachia’s narrative, and hijacking that narrative to shoehorn in a different set of values was done to both attack the historical narrative of a region to which so many are tied, and assert a condescending moral authority over them. Again, I want to repeat that this is not about the miners being gay, even though I’m sure some who read this will ignore everything else and jump to that conclusion.
Was this Childers’ intent when he wrote the song? Honestly, I really don’t think so. Was this the intent of whoever conceived the music video? Yes. Absolutely. And did Childers, at the very least, allow his art to be used to this end, possibly in order to receive acclaim from the guardians of “culture” that hand out awards, distribute accolades, and gatekeep real fame? It’s just my opinion – but i think yes, it seems he was comfortable with that trade. I don’t know if he expected this to be perceived as a betrayal by a large portion of his fanbase, but I do think he should have at least considered it would happen.
As for Feathered Indians – I really do respect his own opinion on the song, which seems to be informed by his own experience and personal feelings. I disagree but fully respect how he got there. Again, though, he’s allowed this personal decision to be hijacked by the same guardians of “culture” – possibly to get more attention on the album – while they use it as fodder to resume their condescension.
When Purgatory was released, Childers was thrust into the position – whether he wanted it or not, whether it was unfair or not – of being a guardian himself, not for the “elites,” but for the culture and history to which his music owed its genesis. I think many are unhappy that he has largely declined that role, which again, may be unfair to Childers. To the man’s credit, he has remained grounded in many ways, giving back to his region and staying genuinely connected to it. Some have already mentioned the Healing Appalachia festival, which I agree is great. This is probably all he wants to be, and maybe he wants to get a grammy under his belt for legacy purposes, something like that. Fine by me.
I’d be remiss if I didn’t share this anecdote, though, which has informed my impression of Childers and his influence on his region:
Some years back, I remember watching a documentary vlog by a guy named Peter Santanello (he’s got a pretty large youtube following – he goes through parts of America to shine a spotlight in ways mainstream news tends to miss). In this particular video, he was traveling through depressed regions of Appalachia, talking to the people there in an effort to shine a light on a forgotten part of America, but also to highlight some of the ways the future there was promising. Towards the end, he wound up talking to some teenage boys fishing off a bridge on a county road. After some conversation, the group encouraged one of the boys to sing Peter a song. To my surprise, the kid started singing “Follow you to Virgie.” Such was the reach of Childers, and what he meant to this region, that a random group of teenagers there would know his songs by heart and choose one of them to sing to a stranger in order to express who they were.
I don’t think Tyler has necessarily betrayed anyone intentionally, but I do think he hasn’t quite figured out the balance in showing respect/love/gratitude towards a large portion of people like those teenagers while rising in fame and popularity, or at the very least has allowed his words and art to be used by individuals like the GQ writer to belittle them. Maybe he’s getting bad advice, or not thinking very clearly about it. And maybe it’s too much to ask for him to do that in the first place – he’s one artist, after all, and there are lots of artists now who do seem to be carrying that responsibility who never would have gotten their shot without him (CWG is one that comes to mind). But it’s unfortunate and I hope he realizes that while you can’t please everyone, you can be more circumspect and wise, showing the same respect for this segment of his fans that he does for people like the Native American gentlemen he mentioned in the story.
Again, I really don’t want to accuse him of being selfish, or resentful towards others when I don’t know the man personally. I’d like to give him the benefit of the doubt there, especially when he’s done a lot for the region. But that failure to show balance and wisdom will define his legacy if he doesn’t get it right. Anyway – that’s my two cents.
August 1, 2025 @ 9:43 am
Well spoken.
August 1, 2025 @ 10:34 am
There’s a very clear line to the current kerfuffle over Sydney Sweeney’s American eagle jeans ad. For years now target and jaguar and Victoria secret have decided, much like Tyler that their job was to promote diversity and make overtly woke and political statements in their ads. The Gillette as about toxic masculinity comes to mind. Ads were filled with women in various body sizes, LGBTQ people, multiple diverse races. No surprise that inevitably the public responded and sales went down in those companies as a result.
This week we have a counter example, where American eagle has an attractive white woman named Sydney Sweeney. Models her great jeans (genes). Predictably libs have flipped their shit and now say the ad is a nazi dog whistle and white supremacist.
It’s funny how Tyler inciting controversy, and deliberately by making a gay miners music video is seen as stunning and brave, stunning and brave yall. Anyone who opposes the video and content are hateful bigots who are ignorant losers.
Yet libs seem very offended indeed about Sydney Sweeneys ad and seem unable to deal with an attractive and fit and healthy white woman being
The star of an ad.
Kind of tells you all you need to know. The left wants to hollow out your religion and where it’s carcass like a skin suit.
The issue to them isnt just that American eagle didn’t feature the alphabet identities and woke ideology, but beyond that the issue is she is white. They literally just hate white people.
It’s as simple as that.
August 1, 2025 @ 7:57 am
Great article – you’re an excellent music writer. I write dumb little thoughts very occasionally on a Substack (borrowedtunes.substack.com) & tried to capture the *musical* aspect of the polarization in a dramatization of my son and I discussing the album (true story). To me, Snipe belongs in the grand old tradition where country and what used to be called “black” music run parallel, the distance between Folsom Prison Blues and N.W.A. not being all that great if you squint. The analogy is far from perfect but it struck me as apt in this instance. The site Genius was built for rap lyrics, and you need to use it to understand this album!
The *political* polarization is regrettable, but my bias is strongly towards Childers’ way of thinking, so of course I’m going to see his releases through rose-colored glasses. You’re right to point out that Childers releasing a weird album is hardly a new thing.
Ultimately, as huge as country music is these days, the judgment this album receives from the country music community doesn’t necessarily matter much, and if he can make waves that ripple further into culture than he has before, he might be on to something.
It might sound like I think this is a truly great album. I’m a little short of that. More than a 6.8, something like an 8.5.
August 1, 2025 @ 8:56 am
I probably have never read more about an album before actually listening to it than this one. There’s not much more I can add to the discussion at this point but I will say that if this album seems “weird” to you, then y’all need to get out more. Even within the realm of country music this isn’t that weird. Jimmie Dale Gilmore was writing about the Bhagavad Gita back in 1972.
August 1, 2025 @ 9:17 am
“Weird” is not my word. That is Tyler Childers’ word. According to the profile in GQ, that’s the specific word Tyler used to co-producer Nick Sanborn as a command of what to do with this album. Then when Sanborn went “weird,” Tyler Childers commanded him, “Nah man, go harder.”
Completely understand if some find the weird nature of this album an asset and enjoy it. But that word is not being used euphemistically.
August 1, 2025 @ 9:24 am
Understood. I wasn’t calling you out specifically just the general tenor of the comments about some of the musical choices here. If you want “weird” country music try Terry Allen, Souled American, or The Black Twig Pickers!
I think Tyler (like Sturgill) is following his muse and each record may alienate a small portion of the fanbase but also may pick up others. Ultimately what he wants to do is build a sustainable career around a fanbase that wants to see him challenge himself and can even be forgiving of missteps. Neil Young, David Bowie, Radiohead, Bob Dylan, Willie Nelson, and Kate Bush all come to mind…not bad company to be in.
August 1, 2025 @ 9:45 am
Controversy sells.
Go harder.
August 1, 2025 @ 10:17 am
I absolutely love this album. I understand its not what everyone expected or wanted. I hope for those that do not like it, that it grows on you or his next album is what you want. For me it just hit and I really enjoy it. After getting drawn for the Dinosaur world show, I love the songs even more after hearing them live.