The Failed Political Project To Reshape the American Electorate Through Country Music
Eight years ago in the aftermath of the first win by Donald J. Trump for President of the United States, a plan was formulated among academics, activists, and journalists of how to combat the rising populist fervor building among America’s rural populations.
Crunching election data and maps that showed a clear divide between rural and urban voters—as well as voters in the American South compared to the North—a plan was hatched under the premise that if the institution of country music could be assuaged to become a political tool, it could help persuade the rural slice of the American electorate from red to blue.
Almost immediately after the 2016 election, you started seeing assertions tied to this political theory pop up in media think pieces and academic papers. Though there are numerous examples of this that could be cited, perhaps the most obvious and overt one was written by journalist Marcus K. Dowling, and published on Medium on August 8th, 2018. This is where the hypothesis was laid out in no uncertain terms.
“The backbone of Trump’s election success share demographic and locational similarities to the stereotypical demographics of country music,” the article observes. “Roots and perpetual appeal in Appalachia that extend along a similar line of white European immigrants Manifesting their Destiny across America’s plains and rural Southwest, near, around, and beside their one-time enslaved property.”
The articles goes on to surmise that if country music could be “radicalized,” then it could have “wildly advanced potential” for asserting a political agenda.
After publishing the article, Marcus K. Dowling would go on to write for numerous country music publications including Rolling Stone Country and The Boot on to his way to becoming the full-time staff writer for country music at The Tennessean in Nashville, which historically has been considered one of the most important positions in all of country journalism. The position was previously held by esteemed writers such as Peter Cooper and Craig Havighurst.
When Marcus K. Dowling made his move into country music journalism, he wasn’t on the cutting edge of this phenomenon, he was joining an already loud chorus of journalists and academics who were looking to take this political hypothesis on country music, and implement it in the real world.
When Rolling Stone launched a country music arm of its publication in 2014 called Rolling Stone Country, the founding editor Beville Dunkerley promised when asked if the subdomain would engage in politics, “As far as government politics, hell no! We’ll leave that to the magazine and RollingStone.com.”
But amid the inauguration of President Trump in 2017, this promise was broken. In an article titled “Why It’s Time For Country Stars to Speak Up About Trump,” Rolling Stone Country editor Joseph Hudak not only broke the original promise of the magazine to not veer into politics, he also did so in a politically aggressive manner, calling out artists for their “indefensible hypocrisy” if they claim reverence to Johnny Cash, but would not speak out against Donald Trump.
Joseph Hudak went on to claim that the situation was “too dangerous not to stand up,” and possibly most alarming, declared “there is no middle ground,” and how silence was tantamount to condoning any and all trespasses pinned on the Trump Administration.
Rolling Stone Country immediately started practicing what it preached, publishing most all of its content with a political slant, and posting articles completely unrelated to country music whatsoever from Rolling Stone proper onto its Rolling Stone Country social media feeds in an attempt to sway the mindset of country listeners. For example, in 2018 alone, Rolling Stone posted some 30 articles about Margo Price due to her left-leaning politics, and in a year that she didn’t even release a new album.
But Margo Price was in the minority when it came to country artists answering the call of Rolling Stone and numerous other media outlets for country stars to take strong political stances in opposition to the Trump Administration. So at times, in lieu of actual political outspokenness, the publication outright assigned political beliefs to country stars that they did not hold.
In July of 2018, Eric Church was featured on the Rolling Stone cover with a blurb that read, “Nashville’s renegade on loving Bernie [Sanders], almost dying, and why he opposes the NRA,” clearly characterizing the country star as left-leaning.
But of course this was incredibly misleading. In the article itself, Eric Church appeared to go out of his way to remain undeclared and pretty categorically distrusting of the entire political system. Though he did answer certain questions taking certain political stances, including some that would traditionally be considered left-leaning, the characterization of the headline was clear and categorical click-bait. Quantifying all of Church’s comments, he would probably come across as more conservative, if you had to categorize him one way or the other.
Even Eric Church said when posting a link to the article, “Read the full interview (don’t be misled by the headline).” Nonetheless, many thousands of Eric Church’s fans did not heed his warning. To this day if Eric Church is mentioned in an article or headline, it is common to see country fans pipe up about how he’s against the 2nd Amendment, a “lefty,” and other political-oriented criticisms, underscoring the implications of these mischaracterizations, the fortunes of performers who take strong political stances publicly, and how all of this often feeds into unnecessary acrimony.
All of this came at a time in country music when labels, managers, publicists, booking agents, and other professionals throughout the industry implored their performers to avoid politics altogether, whether on the right or on the left. This was the result of the post-Dixie Chicks world where political acrimony resulted in the cancellation of one of country music’s biggest acts. The backlash from the cancellation then resulted in a public relations nightmare for the entire country music industry.
This is also one of the reasons that organizations like the CMA (Country Music Association) distanced from Toby Keith despite his continued commercial success, and his more nuanced politics than the press gave him credit for. Despite being the most successful artist in the 2000-2010 decade, he only won three CMA Awards, and two for Video of the Year. Country music wanted to move as far away from political divisiveness as possible, understanding that taking any political stance was certain to alienate half of a performer’s fan base.
Furthermore, the journalists and academics forwarding the political project to reshape the American electorate failed to understand that most country music performers tended towards center to right political leanings to start, with some exceptions of course. The idea that country performers could be coaxed to the left simply through think pieces in elite-focused periodicals, social media goading, or outright shaming and bullying, was unequivocal hubris.
The country music political theory made the same mistake when it came to country music fans, considering them nothing more than unwitting pawns in a political game who would switch their lifelong political principles simply because a pop country star told them to, especially since the historical precedent with performers like the Dixie Chicks and Eric Church verified that country fans were much more likely to relinquish their fandom for a performer who spoke out in opposition to their belief system well before they would abandon their belief system itself.
This meant that the country music political project looking to turn country fans from red to blue didn’t just run the risk of being ineffective. In all likelihood, it could ultimately be counter-productive to the cause, and for a host of reasons. First, when you goad music performers to speaking out politically, you don’t always know what they’re going to say. In many instances with country stars, their silence was potentially advantageous to left-leaning causes, and their outspokenness potentially detrimental.
Second, by overly politicizing the music space, you run the risk of damaging it as a place where people from cross-ideological backgrounds can enjoy something together. The story and allegory of music, and its ability to allow a listener to see the world from a different perspective and walk a mile in someone else’s shoes is how it can reshape ideologies, open people up to new ideas, and soften hardened hearts. Polarizing the space or a specific performer via patent political leanings erodes this important capability of country music, or any music or art, to reshape hearts and minds.
Because of all of these concerns, as the country music left-leaning political project lumbered forward, Saving Country Music specifically cautioned how all of this would backfire in in the faces of these journalists, activists, and academics. Nonetheless, they moved forward undeterred, with journalists such as Marissa R. Moss, Lorie Liebig, and outlets like Rolling Stone Country acting like nothing more than political apparatchiks using politics as a musical curation point, and as a cudgel when they deemed it was necessary, while casting anyone ringing a bell of caution as “racist” or “MAGA.”
And since much of this activist activity was happening in elite circles and often behind paywalls, the message wasn’t actually trickling down to average country music fans. Actually persuading country fans seemed to be the least important part of the movement. What seemed most important to these actors was sowing clout in elite circles, building social capital, and creating seats of power on social media to then expend on shaming, undercutting, or outright cancelling anyone with dissenting views.
In academia, the subject of country music and exploiting it for political gain became fertile ground for building towards academic tenure. Canadian professor Dr. Jada E. Watson and professor Amanda Marie Martinez both broached the subject on a regular basis, and were cited and quoted in news stories, while counter-arguments and perspectives from within the country music community itself were rarely shared.
As the project continued to fail, the tactics became even more terse, and desperate. Any exercises in true intellectualism or perspective-sharing were sidelined for blunt force shaming, name-calling, and sometimes lying in a full court press to push the political project forward. This all was exacerbated during the pandemic when Black Lives Matter and pandemic restrictions created even more strongly polarizing moments and stress points in culture and country music specifically.
When an “accountability spreadsheet” was published enumerating artist that had not shown solidarity with Black Lives Matter, it underscored how the political movement wasn’t laboring to reshape hearts and minds. It was enacting a regime of forced compliance with decrees coming down from elite media and academic circles upon the perceived country music proletariat. This created a strong undercurrent of resentment among country artists and fans alike, even if many continued to remain silent due to the dominion of fear the movement was sowing about being cancelled.
All of this activity didn’t come without dissenting voices on the political right. John Rich and Aaron Lewis specifically spoke up, but we’re laughed off as terse voices only representing a small minority. They also spoke up imperfectly, with John Rich first proclaiming people should “Shut Up About Politics,” while constantly broaching politically polarizing subjects himself. Aaron Lewis and his song “Am I The Only One” stirred some spirited dissent and even became a minor hit, but contradicted itself when it poorly conflated the toppling of Confederate statues with being un-American.
All of this worked to define country music as ground zero in the culture war, with the media, activists, and academics on one side, and many country performers and their fans on the other. Many in the performer class and those working in the industry were resentful of the tense environment created by the political activity being advocated for in the media, but tolerated it because if you spoke out, you could run the risk of being cancelled or publicly admonished. There was also very clearly a classism divide between the two sides.
Where the political project ultimately crossed the line was around the inauguration of Joe Biden as President, and the enacting of vaccine mandates and other restrictions in the late stages of the pandemic. Though Biden had won the Presidency, Republicans remained dominant in rural areas, and so the political project targeting country music soldiered on.
The premier goal of the project was to get country music’s biggest stars to come out publicly to champion left-leaning causes and candidates. So when Jason Aldean’s wife Brittany Aldean started speaking out against left-leaning causes like vaccine mandates and the presidency of Joe Biden on her popular Instagram account through T-shirt merch, a full court press was called for by media activists to shame her into silence and/or discredit her.
Beyond the usual suspects in the country music media class that worked to actively shame Brittany Aldean into submission, national publications started picking up the story, in part because the popular social media feeds of country reporters such as Marissa R. Moss that had become so influential. The Washington Post of all places ran no less than (three) (dedicated) (articles) on Brittany Aldean’s social media presence, including the first story that centered on the “wives of country music stars.”
Brittany Aldean was not a country music performer, despite her social media activity being characterized as a “country music problem.” She was simply a country performer’s wife. The wife of country music star Brian Kelley of Florida Georgia Line was targeted as well. This was no longer the domain of country music or even politics, and the performers whose wives were being admonished began to take it very personally, as most anyone would when their wives are being attacked publicly.
As The Washington Post obsessed over the sharing of political opinions that the newspaper characterized as verboten—despite some half of Americans agreeing with them, and the majority of country fans and artists—the situation boiled over, and country performers themselves started speaking out politically on the right, just as Saving Country Music had warned.
Previously, Jason Aldean had told Rolling Stone that he wanted to avoid politics altogether because it was too polarizing. But after his wife became the target of repeated attacks online including in major periodicals, he reversed course. Not only did he join his wife in modeling anti-Biden T-shirts, he started speaking out more directly. Other country music stars began doing the same.
The fight over Brittany Aldean’s Instagram account ultimately became the Waterloo for the political project to co-opt country music for political pourposes. As the media doubled and tripled down on their criticism of Brittany Aldean—and country stars such as Maren Morris and Cassadee Pope joined in the fracas—others country stars said enough’s enough, and started speaking out themselves.
In the heat of the melee, some of the activists and journalists involved the political movement started losing touch with the core principles. Much of the criticism for country was operated through the fair concern that women were being under-represented on country radio, and in the country genre in general.
But when Carrie Underwood simply liked a tweet from a conservative commentator who came out against masking elementary-aged children, she became a target. Miranda Lambert had been lauded for her “Y’all Means All” campaign supporting the LGBT community previously. Lambert’s brother happens to be gay. But when Lambert simply appeared at a Jason Aldean concert in October of 2022 to sing a previously-released duet with Aldean, she even became the victim of an attempted cancellation campaign.
Even country journalist Marcus K. Dowling, who was one of the architects of the country music political project, came under attack himself for simply covering the Jason Aldean concert for The Tennessean as an objective journalist assigned to the Nashville beat. Those forwarding the political movement had completely lost the plot, and had become outright craven in their ideological bent, looking to destroy anyone and everyone who stepped out of line and associated themselves in any way with Jason Aldean or Morgan Wallen after his ‘N’ Word controversy.
As the criticism of performers began to veer out of control, even fellow activist performers stepped up to criticize the direction of the movement. Black LGBT artist and activist Allison Russell tweeted at the time,“Our #negativitybias is accelerating a dystopian future I fear. We continually amplify those whom we wish to repudiate which distracts & derails us from coalition coalescing, creative communion & critical mass problem solving w/ those we esteem, respect, admire, learn better from.”
LGBT artist and Miranda Lambert songwriter Waylon Payne also said on Twitter, “Every day I see folks who are supposed to be friends just forget all of that and nail each other to a cross. Miranda Lambert is an ally to all who know her … I can’t stand [Jason Aldean’s and Morgan Wallen’s] views, but we’re all supposed to love each other. All the hatred has to stop. ON ALL SIDES. [Miranda Lambert] is an ally. Period.”
The calling out of country artists for supposed reprehensible behavior became very lucrative on social media, receiving thousands of “likes” and reposts. This created a perverse incentive for journalists to veer into this activity, even when it was unwarranted, and undermined the effectiveness of this media coverage when it was, like when Morgan Wallen engaged in numerous incidents that were worthy of criticism and concern.
Outright false reporting also dogged the movement and undermined the credibility of the journalists and the outlets advocating for it. Rolling Stone falsely reported that Morgan Wallen had not donated the $500,000 he pledged to Black organizations. TMZ reported a strange story accusing Wallen of pouring a drink on a woman in a Nashville bar before having to pull it entirely. The false reporting and hand-wringing only fed into a backlash from country fans who simply doubled down on their Morgan Wallen fandom. Once again, the pearl clutching was counter-productive.
Meanwhile, the performers that were being lauded by the political movement like Jason Isbell weren’t actively attempting to change the political alignment of listeners. They were actively advocating for excluding anyone who disagreed with them politically from their fan base. Not only did this result in less people hearing the political messages these performers were sharing on social media, but also removing them from the audience of songs that were supposed to be advocating for causes through the use of character and allegory.
In a puff piece published on October of 2023 in the Los Angeles Times titled “The Radical Empathy of Jason Isbell” written by Marissa R. Moss, Isbell stated in no uncertain terms, “I like running off people who are closed-minded. I’m not trying to sway them to one side politically, I’m just trying to tell them my story.” This quote was used as the subheading of the article, and singled out to illustrate Isbell’s political virtuosity. But it ultimately exposed the hubristic notions of the political movement, and it’s ineffectiveness in moving the political needle.
The country music political project was no longer about reshaping hearts and minds, or assuaging voters from red to blue. It was simply a way for an elitist clique to virtue signal to each other and paint the average country fans as being inferior to themselves. It underscored the smug, down-looking, and ultimately, counter-productive nature of the entire effort.
As country music media and the media in general failed to represent country fans, artists became more emboldened about speaking their minds on political causes, on social media, in the press, and in the music itself. The moratorium enacted after the cancellation of the Dixie Chicks on performers speaking out political quickly evaporated.
When Jason Aldean released the video for his song “Try That In A Small Town” and the media went on a full court press to try and characterize it as racist, it simply stimulated the Streisand Effect, and right-wing pundits rose up to support it, turning the song into a hit. “Rich Men North of Richmond” by a completely unknown and unsigned artist named Oliver Anthony became the #1 song in all of music off the energy of the “anti-woke” backlash that looked to stifle such expressions.
All of a sudden, “anti woke” protest songs became fashionable in country music. Songs like Randy Houser’s “Cancel” and Tennessee Jet’s “2 +2” spoke to the breadth of the backlash, while more subtle inferences in a song like “Miss America” by The Castellows became commonplace when in previous eras they would have never been released. Jason Aldean, who once told Rolling Stone Country he didn’t want to be involved in politics, showed up at dinners with Trump, and appeared at the Republican National Convention.
As the political pleading of social media handles, think pieces, and puff pieces proved to be futile from the left, instead of realigning tactics, looking into the mirror to ask what they were doing wrong, many that participated in the country music political realignment project just simply left, underscoring the lack of true commitment. Many were never really part of the country music community in the first place, with some of the performers more aligned with pop, and some of the journalists being nothing more than political apparatchiks larping as country fans/journalists.
Maren Morris and Cassadee Pope who both had been on the front lines of calling out Jason Aldean and his wife Brittany proclaimed they were leaving country music, frustrated they had been sidelined due to political acrimony. Rolling Stone Country even seemed to sideline most of its ideological slant in country coverage, and started promoting Morgan Wallen tour dates and music releases again as if his controversy over the ‘N’ Word incident and other issues never happened.
One final breath of life in the political project came about when Beyoncé announced that she would be releasing her latest album Cowboy Carter. Once again, think pieces galore were published in major periodicals about how Queen Bey’s presence in country music would cause a dramatic political realignment for country music, along with a racial reclamation of country music’s Black roots. That was the only conclusion to draw from the biggest music superstar in the world releasing a country album.
But this all turned out to be wishcasting. Beyoncé herself proclaimed, “This ain’t a country album,” but the media, the Billboard charts, and award shows ignored it, instead forwarding a canard that Cowboy Carter was indeed country. After the release, Beyoncé herself seemed perfectly uninterested in promoting the album whatsoever. While she pushed a new whiskey brand and a signature campaign for Levi’s jeans, Cowboy Carter saw one of the biggest craterings in sales and streams from an international superstar in modern music history, even as the media continued to declare it as a commercial, cultural and political victory.
At the Democratic National Convention in August where Jason Isbell performed, the big rumors were that Beyoncé would too. Dozens of stories were written about it. But Beyoncé never appeared. It felt symbolic of the way the media and public were continuing to impress magnanimous deeds and responsibility upon Beyoncé that she had no intention of fulfilling.
What did country fans get from the Democratic National Convention? Jason Isbell (who isn’t country), and Kamala Harris camo hats, which Rolling Stone vociferously praised as an olive branch to America’s rural electorate. Though it seemed like genius marketing to the same political activists that thought Maren Morris would persuade country fans to adopt gender theory, in truth the Kamala camo hat was just another miscalculation that put symbolism over substance when it came to reaching out to rural voters.
Even when Beyoncé finally did appear at a rally for Kamala Harris during her Presidential campaign, she didn’t perform. Beyoncé would have been the perfect performer to switch country music from red to blue according to the founding principles of the political project. But she seemed perfectly uninterested in promoting or even performing any of the Cowboy Carter music live, in any context.
When the 2024 Presidential election concluded and President Trump and Republicans not only won, but saw gains in America’s rural areas, gains in suburban and even some urban areas, and significant gains among Black and Brown voters, it dramatically underscored the hubristic nature of the theory that country music could be their vehicle for political realignment. All the political project ultimately really did was sow acrimony throughout the genre, and alienated country music fans from the media charged with covering it.
The Presidential election also paralleled a realignment in how media is consumed in America. As periodicals like Rolling Stone and The Washington Post do their business behind paywalls, consumers are much more likely to interact with independent media and podcasts, especially as false and biased reporting—including on country music—has eroded confidence in legacy media institutions.
Could it be said that the project to switch rural America from red to blue through co-opting country music was so counter-productive that it actually had meaningful implications on the Presidential election itself? The answer is that it probably didn’t. But it definitely fed into an overall failed strategy that believed that the edicts of pop stars from on high could have a significant impact on the electorate. Kamala Harris had most all of the pop star endorsements. It didn’t make a difference.
This all should be a lesson about the importance of keeping the music space free from political acrimony. This is not to advocate for performers to “shut up and sing.” They should have every right to assert their political opinions in whatever facet they see fit. But they should also be realistic about the effectiveness and outcomes of such activity, and the implications it can have on their careers and the music communities they work within. Bob Dylan didn’t change the world though his public statements and political endorsements. He did so through his music.
Ultimately, the greatest power of a musician does not lie within who they endorse, what they say on social media, or what they tell the press. The most powerful songwriters and performers among us have incredible agency to reshape heart and minds, and soften hardened hearts through the messages of their songs themselves. That is the opportunity before them to move needle, and make a difference. But that power can be squandered by performative political stunts that often work to alienate audiences.
Country music has always been a voice for the poor and forgotten, the working class, and the downtrodden. But the political realignment project didn’t make an effort to speak to these constituencies and make persuasive arguments. The effort was to shame them into submission and compliance as opposed to addressing their concerns, similar to the concerns shared by another populist, Bernie Sanders, in his assessment of what went wrong for Democrats in 2024.
“It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them. First, it was the white working class, and now it is Latino and Black workers as well,” Sanders said. “Will they understand the pain and political alienation that tens of millions of Americans are experiencing? Do they have any ideas as to how we can take on the increasingly powerful oligarchy which has so much economic and political power? Probably not.”
The political project aimed at country music was for the elite class, and by the elite class. As they tried to frame the argument in the parameters of left vs. right and Black vs. White, country music fans were increasingly seeing things as top vs. bottom like the rest of the electorate, with the journalists and academics pushing the country music realignment agenda clearly being part of the top, and looking down with disdain upon them at the bottom.
Meanwhile, as right-leaning country fans cheer that left-leaning country stars like Maren Morris have ostensibly left the genre, the media has mostly realigned away from speaking down to fans, performers are now commonly referencing right-leaning causes instead of left ones, and Beyoncé has been rejected by the fans themselves (if not by music institutions), this potentially sets up the genre for more political trouble in the future.
It was the overconfident and mob-like perspective of right-leaning country fans that resulted in the irresponsible and embarrassing cancellation of the Dixie Chicks for saying something President Trump and the MAGA movement now see as a founding principle. According to many political pundits, one of the reasons Kamala Harris lost her bid for President was from cozying up to the architects of the Iraq War like Dick and Liz Cheney.
Similar to how Rolling Stone Country made a strong move to the left ahead of the first inauguration of Donald Trump as President, massively popular country and cultural website Whiskey Riff has made a massive swing to the right, and with a much more voluminous publishing schedule and deeper staff. Nearly a dozen right-leaning posts were made by the publication on Election Day alone. Similar to Barstool Sports and the Joe Rogan Experience, websites like Whiskey Riff have become major power brokers in the cultural narrative as the power of legacy media has diminished.
Similar to the warnings shared by Saving Country Music and others about trying to sway country music to the left in 2017, they’re now just as relevant to share towards the right in 2024. If country music becomes nothing more than a political mouthpiece for the right like it did in the early ’00s, it will once again run the risk of alienating itself from the rest of society, repelling potential listeners, and render itself ineffective for making strong cases for American’s rural and agrarian populations.
Country music is for everyone. And even larger than the demographic of right-leaning country music fans is the demographic of people who don’t really want to think or hear about politics at all when they listen to country music. They just want to hear humans like themselves sharing meaningful stories in the universal language of emotion and music. They want music to be a haven from all of the political acrimony that permeates so much of the rest of American life.
MH
November 13, 2024 @ 8:23 am
Legacy media is officially dead.
Thank God.
Trigger
November 13, 2024 @ 8:53 am
I’m not ready to declare that just yet. Remember when everyone thought the future of media was Vice and Buzzfeed? All of a sudden they’re no longer around, and ABC, NBC, CBS, and CNN still are. They definitely have an uphill battle though. But frankly, all media does as social media and AI look to replace everything else.
Matt Dylan
November 13, 2024 @ 8:51 am
Trump Won both the electoral and popular vote because that was the will of America all along
To anyone dim enough to still believe the lies told by corporate globalist media i merely ask what is it you disliked about Trumps four years in office?
was it the fact he didn’t start a single war? the incredible economy? the fact he made America energy independent for the first time in over 40 years? the foreign wars he shut down? that he made NATO pay their own bills? that he cancelled TPP and created a new trade agreement to preserve America’s sovereignty ? that he passed historic prison reform laws counteracting Bidens racist crime bill from 1993 ? that he put America and not Ukraine first? honestly make me understand why you prefer a career criminal like Biden who has been fleecing his constituents for over 50 years and has an open history of lies and was forced out and replaced by his own DEI hire who along with Joe spent the last four years allowing in illegal invaders from all over even flying them in on secret late night flights as Joe and Kamala deliberately tanked our economy (the dollar under Trump at the end of 2019 had the spending power of $1.23 today) as the cost of living went higher and higher as the cost of gasoline and groceries went through the roof and as they tried to force agendas on us that the vast majority of America are vehemently against. sorry Obama your days of being the shadow puppeteer from behind the curtain of rigged elections is over, you do NOT get a fourth term, America is healing already and Trump hasnt even been sworn in yet. if you doubt this for even a second i urge you to keep an open mind and spend a few minutes viewing the irrefutable evidence – https://youtu.be/a3BEfT64r1U
mumbono5
November 13, 2024 @ 8:55 am
What is Elon Musk if not globalist?
Mike W.
November 13, 2024 @ 10:09 am
I can’t wait to see how some folks try and twist what Elon is doing in their heads as something good.
Regardless how you feel about Trump – good or bad – Elon’s close involvement should offend any rational being on either side of the political party. Dude is going to absolutely use his influence to direct Federal contracts towards SpaceX. Now, the common “whataboutism” take from some to this statement is it was already happening, just less blatantly with other administrations.
Which is fair! We should absolutely have more transparency in government contracts and how our tax dollars are used! But that doesn’t change the fact that Elon being able to re-direct billions in tax payer dollars to his wonky satellite internet company or his rocket company while sitting next to the big chair should offend Republicans, Democrats, and Independents. It’s just a blatant attempt at fraud and unless Elon comes out tomorrow and says “I don’t want anymore Federal contracts”, it should be a massive red flag to all.
Now I wait to be called a “cuck” or a “libtard”….
Nadia Lockheart
November 13, 2024 @ 4:01 pm
And for what it’s worth, Musk also said that he intends to adopt a Javier Milei-esque approach to cutting vital social programs like Social Security and Medicare and even admitted there will be short-term hardship if he has his way.
Which obviously is no less stridently at odds with much of what the working class wants as the corporate elite and political consultant base of the Democratic Party establishment.
Trigger
November 13, 2024 @ 5:22 pm
Musk and X actually play a big role on what this article is about. Twitter used to be ground zero for the political project I outline above. Now that people are abandoning the format en masse, (the SCM handle has lost over 300 followers just in recent days), it’s creating a diaspora for the media class who are now on Threads, Instagram, and the new favorite Bluesky. I’s Balkanizing perspectives and consensus, making it harder and harder for people to find the kind of traction for viral media enjoyed previously.
Matt Dylan
November 13, 2024 @ 6:28 pm
People are making a LOT of assumptions about Elon yet i don’t see a single link or evidence to back up any of your fears, as for the clowns who try to say Trumps ‘good economy was Obama’s’ ha! yeah right at the end of 2019 when the dollar was worth $1.23 today we were still sailing on the economy of the Obama who stole your tax payer dollars to bail out the banks
come on folks, wake up, Kamala had four years to do everything she promised and tanked, she had to literally buy the support of Beyonce, Eminem, Lizzo, Oprah etc etc , and lied incessantly about Trump, as for Elon saying he would cut social security who is your source on that -Kamala ?
if you have a direct link where he said that i’d like to see it , all ive seen is he plans to put an end to government waste, and in response to Nadia Lockheart heres what Trump in fact said
According to his official 2024 campaign platform, Trump has promised to “fight for and protect Social Security and Medicare with no cuts, including no changes to the retirement age.”
“President Trump has made absolutely clear that he will not cut one penny from Medicare or Social Security. American Citizens work hard their whole lives, contributing to Social Security and Medicare. These programs are promises to our Seniors, ensuring they can live their golden years with dignity. Republicans will protect these vital programs and ensure Economic Stability. We will work with our Great Seniors, in order to allow them to be active and healthy. We commit to safeguarding the future for our Seniors and all American families,” page 12 of Trump’s 2024 campaign platform reads.
The same page of the document reiterates that Trump will protect Social Security and Medicare.
“Social Security is a lifeline for millions of Retirees, yet corrupt politicians have robbed Social Security to fund their pet projects. Republicans will restore Economic Stability to ensure the long-term sustainability of Social Security.”
“Republicans will protect Medicare’s finances from being financially crushed by the Democrat plan to add tens of millions of new illegal immigrants to the rolls of Medicare. We vow to strengthen Medicare for future generations,”
Wilson Pick It
November 13, 2024 @ 7:34 pm
Not eliminating Social Security and Medicare is like the bare minimum. It’s like someone saying they’re a good husband/wife because they don’t cheat on their spouse.
The Democrats are perennial losers that betray their base on a regular basis, and I don’t blame anyone for not voting for them. But facts are facts, their policies are better for the working class. The problem is they don’t go far enough because they put their donors first.
Trump hoodwinks the working class. He really serves the fat cats and that should be obvious to anyone. I’d love to be wrong, I really would. But he’s not gonna be busting his ass the next four years to help us peasants. Let’s be real.
Rusty Pickup
November 14, 2024 @ 12:05 am
1) Kamala was vice president. And like all vice president they don’t make policy. She is beholden to Biden.
*** and with many comments here, they need to be teaching civics abd government in schools again***
2) Elon Musk is your typical corporate globalist villan – your term – who will sacrifice anything to get his way – as have others before him. Gates, Ichan, Chainsaw Al, that other fronting putz from Omaha…the name is endless of those who will do anything for maximizing their worth (and “(wealthy) stockholder equity). History repeats itself and leopards don’t change their spots.
3) the major difference here, is that unlike the others Elon is working under the behest of a president (bought and paid for by him).
3) Social Security is NOT an entitlement. It is directly paid for by citizens as an surance policy for retirement. It is NOT SSI, WIC or food stamps. So get that out of your head. And politicians on both sides have failed to touch the third rail – as not to upset their masters – like Elon, whoshould actually pay his fair amount of taxes for the privilege of operating in this country . Now emboldened by his imbecil he will attempt eviscerate social security as an “unnecessary expense” in his “efficiency role”. Such BS.
4) single lower middle class taxpayers such as I, with no children, mortgages or writeoffs of any kind, who pay approx 38% of our income in taxes not only fund spend thrift progressives, but also carry the burden for loophole laden Musks and Trumps. The money squandered by lefties and the un taxed Trumps are what will destroy the Social Security that people like myself have paid into our entire working lives. So Kamala sucks and Musk proxy Trump as well. None of ypu care for people who work and pay taxes.
Finally, Trump won. Now you fix it. Fix the immigration problem swamping my state NY (who pays more into the fed than it takes) sent to us by Texas (a state of corrupt wealth and tax evasion that draws more from the fed than it cobtributes). The illegal immigrant burden placed here is not going on medicare, it’s going to house, medicate and feed them out right. I hope Trump will actually be able to strip cities like mine from sanctuary nonsense, a major burden. But let’s see how red constituents complain about the so called lack of labor.
I guess the biggest laugh will be the tariffs. These so called outraged people will just have to deal with the shock. When Dollar Tree (+.25) goes up 60% and they have to feed their families the 1/3 size shrinkflation sizes of foods sourced with Chinese ingredients. I’ll be eating Gancy Feast, but laughing at you with every spoonful (like the “crow” you will eat).
And, Trig, this has to do with political tone you set with this article..the steady diet of Jason Aldean, Toby Keith and Lee Greenwood are just as weaponized as Dylan, Springsteen Beyoncé – in the politics of music and their use in campaigns. All of them are tools employed by politicians to forward their points. My comments are an answer to the consequences of the music feed to us, campaigns or not.
mumbono5
November 13, 2024 @ 8:59 am
“The incredible economy.” “Obama”. Great parody comment! Oh, and enjoy the higher prices when those tariffs kick in!
Blair
November 13, 2024 @ 12:13 pm
I truly don’t have the desire to go line item by line item with your claims. Just know that the your ignorant claims about what trump did are bullshit. And that’s the problem. Not musicians or their songs. Its the parroting of a pathological liar. Enough people start repeating the lies they believe its the truth. “alternative facts” are lies
No dogs and cats were eaten, Nobody was flown in secretly, Nato was always paying, America still produces more power then we use, Trump signed a bipartisan prison bill that really didn’t do much and so on and so forth. Name some more things he “did”
Cornelius Rooster
November 13, 2024 @ 6:10 pm
Not to get off too far downa tangent but your response is just the sort of thing that gives the echo chamber Republicans the necessary fuel to keep spouting the more flawed justifications for their world view. Admittedly, I voted for trump- for reasons I can make good faith/ well informed arguments for, but I detest low-hanging-fruit red meat discourse wherever it comes from- maybe you do too (at least insofar as it’s coming from across the aisle). But c’mon…
Did anyone get arrested for eating fido? Maybe not but there were police reports and videos of people kidnapping dogs/ photos of suspiciously skinny pigs getting rotisseried. The fact that it’s even a question is indication that there’s a problem… Even if that problem is just “I used to have white neighbors and now they’re all brown”. It’s not nothing.
Nobody flown in in secret? Are you talking about the illegals or the paid protestors? Either way that’s documented/ easily researched. Not “secret” per se but certainly not publicized.
NATO paying? Assuming you mean member nations paying for their obligations and not NATO paying the US anything. This one’s pretty easy too.
US producing more power than we use? I would certainly hope so… Given how a power plant functions we’d all be pretty screwed if they produced only the exact amount of energy being consumed on a daily basis. Any time someone flipped on a light switch you’d have a 50/50 chance of blacking out the whole grid.
As far as what trump “did”, you certainly could make valid and honest arguments for and against for most of them depending on your leanings but we don’t get to do that because people only seem to be able to deal in deranged absolutes anymore.
Blair
November 13, 2024 @ 7:03 pm
Please dont go down a tangent as you have enough things to research.
Fact. No one kidnapped pets. And you are correct. When the person who wishes to be president spouts lies and disinformation it is something to be concerned about.
Fact. No illegal immigrants were secretly flown in. Not sure what you are talking about with protesters.
Nato spending https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/trumps-distorted-nato-delinquent-comments/ this goes into it deeper.
Fact. You dont understand what energy Independent means with regards to the United States. Feel free to research and understand.
Rusty Pickup
November 14, 2024 @ 12:10 am
Too many people listening to TikTok Chinese/PutinX trolls about stupid Marjorie Taylor Moron stuff.
Matt Dylan
November 13, 2024 @ 6:50 pm
nobody was secretly flown in? are you serious? this is from Oct 2021 Yahoo news, https://www.yahoo.com/news/psaki-confirms-illegal-immigrants-being-185839952.html
I have literal footage of a Haitian in Ohio eating a cat alive, send me your email i;ll gladly share it with you, be warned its not for the faint of heart and no its not about my neighbors skin color (youre the one who votes for candidates based on gender and melanin levels i vote based on who kept the price of gas and groceries down and the cost of living down https://amac.us/newsline/society/energy-food-and-household-goods-biden-compared-to-trump/
while youre at it you may want to look at any videos by cash jordan on YouTube on any given day to see what an utter lawless nightmare cesspool it has become over the last four years, the fictional Gotham of the Dark Knight pales by comparison
do you even know who Tren De Aragua are, or MS13 ? have you seen the exponential growth of illegals who cannot even speak English much less wish to assimilate to our way of life , please save the race baiting ,its a tiresome cliche and the fact is that it was Democrats who funded the 1939 Nazi Rally at Madison Square Garden, Democrats who founded the KKK and Joe Biden who eulogized Klansman Robert Byrd in 2011 calling him a friend and mentor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcBQYApjSa4
see all the links i included, thats called backing up your facts and not making claims based on salacious slander from corporate media and unnamed third parties who claim to have over heard something
you may also want to take a look at this https://x.com/camerajuice/status/1854781001798762659/photo/1 to prove just how unreliable your sources are as well as this https://x.com/fentasyl/status/1856227226867441832 to see how many inadmissables were flown in from four countries under Biden and Kamala, dont forget your email if you wish to see the Haitain eating a cat, i dont’ recommend it as its heartbreaking hearing a live cat scream as its being devoured alive but will send it to prove that yes Haitians are accustomed to eating animals we call pets
youre problem is you still trust CNN and MSNBC , thank God most sane people know better , viewership for MSNBC is down 23% and CNN is down 40% since Trump won
MSNBC is down 54% and CNN is down 30% for primetime. MSNBC host Alex Wagner had her worst rated show in history and Chris Hayes had his worst rated show since May and if Joy Reid still has a job this time next week i’d be surprised
I was a lifelong liberal until liberals went from being the party of ‘F you I wont do what you tell me, to the party of ‘F You, Do What they tell you” . i
Blair
November 13, 2024 @ 7:42 pm
You mean this video? https://checkyourfact.com/2024/09/12/fact-check-video-haitian-immigrant-ohio-neighbors-cat/ Says it wasn’t a Haitian.
Understand that gas prices had nothing to do with trump.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/10/misleading-messages-on-gasoline-prices/
Feel free to read this. Byrd had some pretty strong feelings about his past.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/aug/15/viral-image/robert-byrd-wasnt-grand-wizard-kkk-he-once-led-loc/
And because you seem to think inflation and the cost of living is only a US thing here is some more reading about it happening globally
.https://www.bbc.com/news/business-59982702
Matt Dylan
November 13, 2024 @ 8:02 pm
Globally as in every nation associated with NATO and the WEF ? gosh that must be a coincidence, do you even know who Klaus Schwab is ? how about Alex Soros, funny how faked checkers didnt exist until 2016 …what happened that year? and Politifact are the propaganda arm of Facebook https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/media-bias-against-conservatives-real-part-reason-no-one-trusts-ncna895471 as for Byrd yes he left the Klan but imagine if that video had been Trump rather than pedoJoe, it would have aired 24/7/365 on all the networks you trust as they love nothing more than to divide and conquer
here is what real unbiased news looked like, before your time no doubt but they did more than rage FOR the machine https://youtu.be/h67O5dzr9rg
enjoy the next four years i know i will just as i thoroughly enjoyed 2016-2020 , lets not discuss the fact the vast majority of Kamalas ‘wins’ this year were where no voted ID was required. enjoy your echo chambers, something has to help you cope
Rusty Pickup
November 14, 2024 @ 12:22 am
Yes, Illegal Allen’s flow in from Texas to other states. This is from the Texas Dictat…er….Governor’s
https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/texas-transports-over-100000-migrants-to-sanctuary-cities
Facebook? Bias – really? Facebook makes money on pushing falsehoods, period
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/08/why-facebook-wont-stop-pushing-propaganda/
Biden has no monopoly on lying…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_or_misleading_statements_by_Donald_Trump
And the coubtry music part of lying is when artists play dumb about making music videos in front of notorious judicial buildings. I guess coubtry stars need “to do more of their own research”…tee hee, maybe they need to channel a “tjinket” like that (in)famous football player.
CountryKnight
November 14, 2024 @ 11:16 am
Abbott was right to send the illegals to New York.
They wanted those policies. Now deal with the outcome.
Adam S
November 14, 2024 @ 7:58 am
Lol the video you have doesn’t show a Haitian in Springfield, it’s an American in Canton. Why are you lying about the video? Or are you just that stupid?
Matt Dylan
November 13, 2024 @ 7:02 pm
sure they are https://www.yahoo.com/news/psaki-confirms-illegal-immigrants-being-185839952.html
Blair
November 13, 2024 @ 7:09 pm
Ah, the New York Post. The pinnacle of tabloid truth.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/mar/16/tyler-kistner/claims-biden-secretly-flying-immigrants-us-cities-/
Matt Dylan
November 13, 2024 @ 7:31 pm
So Psaki is lying? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrV2xOUQ7Ow
now how about we name the sources you trust who lied about the contents of Hunters laptop calling it ‘Russian Disinfo’ until after the 2020 ‘election’ you recall that ‘election’ right? it had 20 million ‘voters’ who never showed up before or after 2020 ..where did they come from? where did they go ..its as if the vote fairy showed up at 4am https://x.com/Civil_Disco/status/1854221247304937508/photo/1
Blair
November 13, 2024 @ 8:17 pm
She isnt lying. You seem to be missing the part of who is being flown and the fact trump did the exact same thing. 1000 kids are still separated from their parents because of it.
I couldnt give 2 shits about Hutner Biden. Nothing has been proven regarding the content regarding Joe Biden, Just the fact he had sex, did drugs and bought a gun. He has issues. This article seems to lay it out
https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/verify/national-verify/hunter-bidens-laptop-what-we-can-verify/536-a41c9f05-c548-4681-a0be-a01fcc75b59d
Here are some websites regarding the false statements you made regarding 20 million voters.
https://fullfact.org/us/20-million-votes-missing-us-presidential-election-claim-false/
https://checkyourfact.com/2024/11/08/fact-check-no-evidence-20-million-votes-2020/
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/20-million-votes-missing-harris-biden-democrats-b2643564.html
You are tiresome. Go listen to Jamey Johnson new album
Matt Dylan
November 14, 2024 @ 6:51 am
again with the faked checkers,LOL next you’ll deny Ashley wrote in her diary about taking inappropriate showers with Joe when she was a child, and honey ive seen the planes of people they fly in in the middle of the night and the migrant caravans ,they werent all children, in fact the vast majority were not ,i am in South Western AZ and live five miles from Mexico i see it in person i dont need CNN and MSNBC to lie to me or show only one flight which did contain children and not all the rest which did NOT , I see the illegals flooding my streets and neighborhoods and watched the crime grow exponentially, and if parents dont want to be separated from their children their parents shouldn’t involve them in illegal activity , would you take your child along to a bank robbery or even shoplifting ? even if you are a citizen you and your child will be separated as you sit in jail https://youtu.be/uv8Eu6tBDz4
illegal means Illegal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKuePQclPJA
and if you think there are going to be 20 million more votes found you’re drunker than Kamala and the point about Hunters Laptop was how every legacy mainstream media outlet lied and called it ‘Russian Disinfo’ and/or outright denied it even existed that is UNTIL after the 2020 ‘election’ https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-cnn-cbs-hunter-biden-laptop-russian-disinformation-media
oh and btw this goes out to all Liberals, STOP calling America a ‘Democracy’ we are not now nor have we ever been one hence the reason the word Democracy is NOWHERE to be found in the United States Constitution nor in the Declaration of Independence , we are a Constitutional Republic and yes there is a vast difference between the two,
what is exhausting is your refusal to see what exists in front of your own two eyes instead living in denial while cheering on the global elite who have been running the same playbook in every last sovereign Nation be it the UK, the USA, France, Germany,Scotland Canada etc etc all our borders have been flooded with illegal immigrants in order to destroy our economy and way of life and fast track Klaus Schwabs dystopian dream of a new world odor (sic) personally i’m not down for owning nothing and being happy about it
look i’m sure youre a good person, you clearly have great taste in music and at the end of the day we all want the same thing, safer neighborhoods ,safe borders, affordable cost of living, affordable gasoline and groceries and a leader who not only didnt drag America into any new wars for four years but literally made peace with Putin and Kim Jong Il , no he wasnt their friend or ally he was what he remains a man who just wants people to stop dying in needless wars that have NOTHING to do with America, a man who wants to put America not Israel nor Ukraine not Palestine first a man who WON’T be sending hundreds of BILLIONS of US Taxpayer dollars to a money laundering operation disguised as foreign aid ,the next four years are going to be glorious so long as the RINOs who are all AIPAC lapdogs dont keep thawrting Trumps picks for leadership as happened yesterday when Senate Republicans elected RINO Sen. John Thune over Rick Scott, the will of the people be damned. despite this Trump will prevail and America will heal and Kamala..? well after blowing a BILLION dollars to not be elected and then still ending up over $20 million in debt she better hope McDonalds is hiring.
Lefty Throckmorton
November 22, 2024 @ 1:38 am
Everything you posted, I can disprove with some links of my own, starting with this one:
MeidasTouch Network: https://meidasnews.com/ (also https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9r9HYFxEQOBXSopFS61ZWg and https://meidasnews.com/podcast, as well as https://www.youtube.com/@MeidasTouch/search?query=Donald%20Trump )
The Young Turks: https://www.youtube.com/@TheYoungTurks (and with reference to Trump: https://www.youtube.com/@TheYoungTurks/search?query=TRump
mumbono5
November 13, 2024 @ 8:54 am
I agree that country stars shouldn’t be singled out more than anyone else to speak out against Trump. I also think that if when asked you fail to condemn a proven sexual abuser, someone who badmouths brave men and women who have served their country and someone who doesn’t believe in conceding power peacefully when they lose an election, you have clearly not been brought up right.
CountryKnight
November 13, 2024 @ 10:26 am
Trump never badmouthed any soldiers and he did concede power.
mumbono5
November 13, 2024 @ 11:10 am
Sure he didn’t. Interesting that you don’t seem to have a problem with the sexual abuse. That’s disqualifying for any decent human being.
Matt Dylan
November 14, 2024 @ 7:04 am
Sexual abuse …as in Tara Reid or Joe showering with his nine year old daughter Ashley who was so traumatized she wrote about it in her diary which Biden had the FBI seize from James O Keefe all while denying it was valid, because yeah you totally abuse your power to confiscate a document that isnt true right? https://www.yahoo.com/news/tara-reade-joe-biden-sexual-assault-allegation-205643745.html as for E. Jean Carroll she should have never been allowed to file a civil suit as she got her ass handed to her in real court as she could not prove she ever met Trump nor will she ever be able to because she didnt as for Stormy Daniels even far left Bill Maher called her out as a liar showing a clip from her visit to his show where she admitted there was no non consensual contact between the two https://nypost.com/2024/05/12/media/bill-maher-trashes-bad-witness-stormy-daniels-for-changing-her-story-with-trump-trial-testimony/ . now lets talk about Kamalas abusive cheating husband Doug…que no? https://nypost.com/2024/10/11/us-news/doug-emhoff-brushes-off-reports-he-forcefully-struck-ex-girlfriend-as-a-distraction-in-first-public-response-to-allegations/ yeah…if not for double standards you would have none at all
Trigger
November 14, 2024 @ 8:16 am
These massive, massive comments with tons of links are bogging this comments section down, and probably not convincing anyone of anything. Let’s please wrap up these incessant back and forths so people can make more on-topic comments and we can keep this comments section open.
WhereWhat
November 13, 2024 @ 2:52 pm
You Trump over s General? You’re laughable if not kind of sad.
Jonathan Brick
November 13, 2024 @ 9:04 am
Two words: Dolly Parton. An expertly argued piece, from someone who has kept on and kept on at this story for years. Whither Marcus K Dowling now?
Jonathan Brick
November 13, 2024 @ 9:07 am
PS Chris Willman wrote The Book on the early 00s country scene referenced in the penultimate paragraph
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rednecks-Bluenecks-Politics-Country-Music/dp/1595582185
Jerry
November 13, 2024 @ 9:21 am
You had me most of the way through. First of all, congrats for writing a (mostly) non-political article on politics. that is quite an amazing feat, and I am impressed and I applaud you for it.
The only thing you shouldn’t have done was mention the Dixie Chicks. They had every right to speak up, and we had every right to refuse to listen to their music.
But I do have a question – I have stayed away from Rolling Stone for a very long time – and am not too familiar with Rolling Stone Country. I am interested to know how this whole controversy affected not only the relevance of the publication – you are pretty clear that their venturing into politics made them more irrelevant – but on the actual readership and reach of the publication. Did their venturing into politics result in fewer people reading the magazine?
mumbono5
November 13, 2024 @ 9:35 am
Serious question here: did you say that the Dixie Chicks “had every right to speak up” back when it actually happened? Was that the discourse of the majority of those who were offended?
Jerry
November 13, 2024 @ 9:55 am
I can only speak for myself, not others. She had every right to speak up the way she did, and I’m pretty sure I agreed with this at that time as well, being that I was always a strong believer in free speech. but I was completely disgusted with her publicly trashing the President of the US internationally the way she did, that I think that the reaction was understandable and necessary.
But I don’t have any illusions – the “canceling” of the Dixie Chicks was primarily a financial decision by the Nashville elite after the vast majority of country music listeners felt similar to what I described above. It was not a “right-wing’ or idealist decision. And that, I believe, is a huge distinction between this and what Trig is describing in this article.
Trigger
November 13, 2024 @ 10:10 am
I completely understand that the Dixie Chicks issue is incredibly polarizing. I also think it’s extremely important in understanding where country music was before the first Trump Presidency. The country music industry was in lock step agreement that performers should not engage in politics whatsoever, and you saw this parroted all over the place. This is what set up the media in opposition with the performer class. As the media was demanding artists come out against Trump (who many artists quietly supported), their labels, managers, and publicists were telling them not to.
As for Rolling Stone, obviously it always had left-leaning politics as part of its coverage. That was the concern when they said they were launching a country music page. Rolling Stone Country seemed to be the last to know they would eventually go political when everyone else seemed to know it before it even launched. As much as people who love to claim Rolling Stone is irrelevant, like much of legacy media, they made a lot of money off the first Trump Administration. It will be interesting to see if the same goes for the second one. What I think is definitive is that their ability to sway opinion in the American electorate has been significantly marginalized. This is where the paywall and the demographics they appeal to factors in. So many people will just never go there, and some just physically can’t.
Jimmy the Black
November 13, 2024 @ 10:20 am
A political post after warning me that politics will be deleted.
Kudos, Trigger. Kudos.
Trigger
November 13, 2024 @ 10:38 am
When I write a review for a Willie Nelson album and people want to use it as a lunching pad for political diatribes, it distracts from the topic at hand. In an instance like this, obviously politics is part of the discussion, and so it is tolerated, though I still request for people to please try and keep comments on the specific political topics being broached as opposed to meaningless back and forths.
It’s unfortunate that you can’t have a discussion about how caustic politics are to the country music community without broaching politics itself. I recognize the dichotomy and conflict this creates. But I think this discussion is very important, and something artists, fans, and the media especially needs to think about, discuss, and reconcile with to reduce misunderstandings. I think it’s also important that myself and others be open to other people’s perspectives on this matter. That is why unless things get completely out of hand, this comments section will remain open.
PeterT
November 13, 2024 @ 10:22 am
Put the popcorn on.
This comment section is going to fun.
CountryKnight
November 13, 2024 @ 10:25 am
No one hates the media as much as they should.
“I will add, that the man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them; inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods & errors. He who reads nothing will still learn the great facts, and the details are all false.”
-Thomas Jefferson
Tex Hex
November 13, 2024 @ 10:25 am
Great article, Trigger. Thank you. This is all just one piece of the broad political push from leftist corporate media over the last eight years or so, that has (thankfully) largely failed.
The same thing happened in movies and television, especially in male dominated genres like action and sci-fi, with disastrous results. Huge cultural franchises like Marvel and Star Wars were run into the ground as outspoken leftist activists gained control of the creative direction and marketing of these projects.
Thankfully, the masses spoke with their wallets. Most people don’t want to be bludgeoned by politics when they simply want to be entertained.
Big Tex
November 13, 2024 @ 1:54 pm
Can you try again without all the incoherent dissembling about “leftist” this and that? All you did is prove that you missed the point.
Trigger
November 13, 2024 @ 2:16 pm
Think you’ve got the wrong comment here.
WhereWhat
November 13, 2024 @ 2:34 pm
Tell me you don’t understand macroeconomics without telling me you don’t understand macroeconomics. A little hint is look at the global picture:Chinese economy is failing; now it’s your turn.
goldenglamourboybradyblocker71
November 13, 2024 @ 10:36 am
Well,Kris Kristofferson was clearly progressive,largely because he was very handsome and brainy (excuse my arrogance,but a lot like Yours Truly,albeit Kris was a quantam leap more talented),and Willie,Waylon and Co. weren’t far right by a long shot,but in the 60’s,Billy Grammer,George Jones and Tammy Wynette and some others were George Wallace Presidential supporters.(Marty Robbins opposed the Civil Rights activists,calling those from other parts of the U.S. “interlopers,” a thought expressed at the time by many white Southerners whose opinions mirrored Robbins’). Lately,the attempt to reshape Country music politically has hit the shoals of “Try That In A Small Town” and “Rich Men North Of Richmond,” which seemingly pandered to illiberal sentiments,particularly “Try That In A Small Town” and its century-old imagery of a Tennessee lynching of a black lad of 18. So basically we’re at Square One with Country music,which and be enjoyed for its story-telling if not always its open-mindedness,past or too often present.
ronnie
November 13, 2024 @ 10:53 am
Ah it’s been a couple of months. Time to write this article again.
norabelle
November 13, 2024 @ 11:05 am
I plead the fifth. Pass the popcorn please.
Di Harris
November 13, 2024 @ 11:31 am
“The backbone of Trump’s election success share demographic and locational similarities to the stereotypical demographics of country music,” the article observes …”
And, this is a great fallacy.
The backbone strongly wends it’s way through many demographics, stereotypical, or not.
The backbone wends it’s way through a very diverse population.
wayne
November 13, 2024 @ 11:51 am
Since rock, pop, rap, and most other genres are mostly liberal mouthpieces, I hope to heck that country music becomes the mouthpiece of the right. For those who would not approve that, they can follow Americana.
Adam S
November 13, 2024 @ 12:48 pm
It’s so sad that you think like that.
Big Tex
November 13, 2024 @ 1:56 pm
Personally, I hope to heck that country music rejects both the left and that right, taking us to a better place without all the political shenanigans.
jt
November 13, 2024 @ 5:51 pm
Despite this article stating otherwise, it always has been. Back in the 90s alternative country grew in popularity as a pushback against the War glorifying Christian pop country of the time. That is precisely what made it alt.
Sylvia Payton
November 13, 2024 @ 11:55 am
Wow, I learned something from Trigger with this article and it scares me. A great PhD Doctoral thesis topic suitable for the king of country: George Strait to accurately write and defend confidently anytime. Aha!, “political hypotheses” by the elite political project to “radicalize” rural folks through country music is laughable to me—a Black “assimilated” “red-neck” with no disrespect to my grandfather’s traditional real name and a real cowboy.
Jerome Clark
November 13, 2024 @ 12:22 pm
I’m looking here, perhaps naively, for some hint of historical context. Much of the discussion seems premised on the curious notion that once upon a time country music and politics were separate entities.Until, that is, evil liberals (who else?) tried to rob country of its purity. In fact, it’s hard to imagine any form of popular music that doesn’t express some form of political opinion on occasion. Nobody objects to it unless he or she disagrees with the expressed sentiments.
Country has always had a political side, more often than not rightwing and illiberal. That’s why, for example, segregationist George Wallace claimed so much support from Opry stars during his mid-century Presidential runs. It didn’t end there, but I’ll end it here….
Well, I will encourage anyone interested in a larger perspective on ideological country to read Peter La Chapelle’s I’d Fight the World: A Political History of Old-Time, Hillbilly, and Country Music (University of Chicago Press, 2019). Some will suffer an attack of teeth-gnashing when they learn that there were liberal-to-left performers who protested what they deemed the failed capitalism behind the Depression. Fiddlers and banjo players even played at the White House in the New Deal years.
Politics is part of life, and it’s going to be reflected in popular art. So what? Get over it.
Trigger
November 13, 2024 @ 2:14 pm
No doubt that going back through history, there is a greater context with country music and politics. The point of this article was to lay out the last eight years or so, while also tying in the Dixie Chicks cancellation for context. I never said that country music and right-wing politics were never aligned, nor did I refer to anyone as “evil.” What I explained specifically was that country music and politics weren’t aligned in the aftermath of Toby Keith and the Dixie Chicks cancellations leading up to the last eight years, and I think few would argue against that.
I would agree that in the past, country music has had a more right-leaning alignment, which is one of the reasons the idea that it could simply be persuaded to the left through think pieces published in the media or social media goading was hubristic. But I would also say that many of the academia writings on this subject often leave out critically important context for a less nuanced and cleaner narrative that fits an agenda. For example, Willie Nelson has always been a Democrat and come out for left-leaning causes. Tim McGraw and Faith Hill are big Democrat donors and advocates, though they do it somewhat more quietly than someone such as Jason Isbell, for example. Professor Amanda Marie Martinez who I cited in the article loves to push the idea that country music was co-opted by the right in the ’80s and loves to cite Roy Acuff inviting Ronald Reagan to the Grand Ole Opry and other examples. But at that time, Roy Acuff wasn’t a popular country star, and the Grand Ole Opry was distinctly for the retired crowd. Who was a star were artists like Rosanne Cash, Rodney Crowell, Steve Earle, and Emmylou Harris, aka the “alt country” crowd that was decidedly left-leaning, and of course, Willie Nelson.
This is a complex subject that deserves complex discussion. But I also wanted to keep this particular conversation in the last eight year to summate how we got to the present day alignment, which as I state, I fear will result in another era of right-leaning country music that might excluding important artists or works unfairly.
Rusty Pickup
November 14, 2024 @ 12:46 am
The last eight years nothing. Our electorate has been shaped specifically in the last 44 years more than anytime in our history. The election of Ronald Reagan was a change in United States politics especially with conservative trends such as the level of sophisticarion of Religious Right/Moral Majority enmeshing itself into politics and the Democratic Party’s countermeasures to that.
And an interesting parallel to that is the “celebrity” factor involved in that. Ronald Regan was a celebrity as is Trump. Their ability to tap into that and use it as a tool to convince the masses to make their selections is of great consequence. The difference is that Ronald Reagan transformed himself into a true politician by honing his skills becoming governor of California, preparing him for 2 successful, consecutive presidential terms – and surrounding himself with seasoned true conservatives.
We will see how Trump carries himself with lessons learned from his indifferent, mercurial and disorganized first term.
For better or for worse, Reagan changed the political contours of the electorate and the culture of the country as well, with a level of aplomb not seen before. Let’s see if Trump can bring us into the golden age of conservatism, yet again, or descend into irreversible chaos.
I would love to hear a discussion between let’s say, Lee Greenwood and Dolly Parton – legends who experienced those times and the times now and how Country inspired/influenced people both then and now.
Trigger
November 14, 2024 @ 8:10 am
I’m not writing a book here. I’m writing an article. And this article is so long, it discourages most people from reading already. I decided to focus on the last eight years. Other articles focus on other time periods. Some books zoom out even further and cover decades. It doesn’t mean that any article is purposely avoiding information, or that any book is outdated because it doesn’t have the latest information.
Rusty Pickup
November 14, 2024 @ 11:26 am
No one takes time to realize issues have historic contexts – especially politics.They will read a mile long article about the latest album, but not about issues that affect their lives. That is a problem isn’t it?
Openning the article by simply saying that ‘though limited to the last 8 years, decades long changes have led us to this point…” . Perhaps that would at least spur the more inquisitive users to actually look back and understand where we are and help them realize there was a world before TikTok and a decrepit holden escalator
Adam S
November 14, 2024 @ 8:02 am
“Toby Keith and the Dixie Chicks cancellations”
Toby Keith wasn’t cancelled, especially not compared to the Dixie Chicks. Equating the two is bad and lazy journalism. I thought this article was fairly well reasoned otherwise.
Trigger
November 14, 2024 @ 8:22 am
I never said or alluded to Toby Keith being cancelled at all, and would argue against anyone who tried to say that. Not sure where you’re pulling that from. What is true is that after 2005 and the re-emergence of the Dixie Chicks as a more pop/rock oriented group, Toby Keith never won another CMA Award and the talk was that the industry had decided to distance from him, similar to what they did to Florida Georgia Line in 2015. No, he wasn’t “canceled,” but it’s a signal of how the industry wanted to move away from political divisiveness.
Adam S
November 21, 2024 @ 11:00 am
Late to the party here, didn’t see an email notification. Why are there two check boxes now for email notifications?
Okay good. I think my reading comprehension of the quote I supplied above was accurate but not what you meant to convey. I think “Toby Keith and the Dixie Chicks cancellation” is what should have been written, and you actually use the singular up above in your comment. You had mentioned backlash against Toby Keith in your article that also led me to believe the plural “cancellations” was intentional but I should have given you the benefit of the doubt.
Brian Hendrick
November 13, 2024 @ 12:36 pm
Great writing as usual. My two favorite subjects collided.
Jerome Clark
November 13, 2024 @ 2:31 pm
Thank you for your thoughtful response.
I’m sorry you thought I was accusing you of dredging up that usual hoary suspect, the evil liberal. I was not. To the contrary, my allusion was to some (not all) other commentators in the thread.
I might add that the typical problem with political songs, of whatever persuasion, is that they too often end up more as sermons than as songs. In the long history of singing, there may be someindividuals who changed their politics from listening to music, but there can’t be many of them. A political song is far more likely to be embraced because it affirms what the listener already believes.
Colter
November 13, 2024 @ 12:40 pm
Blow up your TV, throw away your paper, move to the country and build you a home. Plant a little garden, eat a lot of peaches, try and find Jesus on your own.
Rusty Pickup
November 14, 2024 @ 12:49 am
And when I go to Home Depot and Wal-Mart to fit my libertarian palace in the woods and can’t afford any of the Chinese sourced clothing, seeds, plywood and food I guess I will have to pray….
J
November 13, 2024 @ 12:41 pm
I thought this was an extremely insightful piece and I hope that “Democratic” strategist read it because it is an amazing example of the dumb crap they tell Democratic candidates to do.
I’m very glad you quoted Bernie because his thoughts were spot on. I think people are tired of making everything so damn political, whether right or left. People crave authenticity and people being themselves. That’s reflective in the popularity of artists right now that are writing raw emotions and not pretending to be somebody they are not. Public officials could take a note from that themselves and actually meet people where they are instead of telling them where they should go. It doesn’t work in music and it doesn’t work in politics either.
Thanks Trigger for the insight here and also for calling out the potential right-leaning media from doing the same damn thing the left-media tried. I don’t care if politics is in country music as long as it’s genuine and people being themselves.
Rusty Pickup
November 14, 2024 @ 12:55 am
Betnies comments were spot on, however his “fail” is unwavering belief that the Talib/AOC powered social engineering/botique issus/antisemitism (as opposed to the economy, real border security and fair law enforcement) is the answer.
Chris
November 13, 2024 @ 12:41 pm
Chris Stapleton is another one to admire in this regard. When asked recently who he was voting for he said “I’m voting for America & a good glass of whiskey.” Perfectly ambiguous and unassailable answer. Need more like him.
Strait
November 13, 2024 @ 4:41 pm
I always appreciate classy deflection of the question because no performer should be compelled to have to answer their political beliefs.
Rusty Pickup
November 14, 2024 @ 12:56 am
And nor do we need to hear them. Public neutrality for performers works
GAFA
November 14, 2024 @ 12:20 am
That answer from Stapleton disappointed the hell out of me. Under normal circumstances I would agree that his political beliefs are his own business. But when one candidate is a proven sexual abuser, how can you fail to condemn it?
CountryKnight
November 14, 2024 @ 11:19 am
Kamala got her start as a mistress.
Strait
November 14, 2024 @ 4:42 pm
She was a smokeshow in the 90’s.
GAFA
November 15, 2024 @ 12:26 am
You’re equating having an affair with sexual abuse? Your mind isn’t functioning at normal capacity.
MH
November 14, 2024 @ 1:31 pm
LMAO
Lee
November 13, 2024 @ 12:50 pm
Good piece, Trigger. I’m a liberal reader from Detroit who started listening to country music as escapism. At this point I’m sick of partisan politics and culture war bickering, and I like listening to country music for its timeless, universal themes. This website has turned me on to so much good music — real country music, not the phony stuff.
rano
November 13, 2024 @ 1:21 pm
If pop music can be uniformly leftist, and the last few years has been veering far left, why can’t country be center right?
And when I say “center right”, I don’t mean mean by the standards of the mainstream media. For example: as early as 2021 Black Lives Matter support had dwindled to 44%. So “Try That In A Small Town” isn’t center-right. It is a mainstream majority opinion. The issue that Maren Morris attacked Brittany Aldean over? 68% of the public sides with Brittany Aldean! That puts MORRIS on the margins. And that Oliver Anthony song? Only democratic socialists like Bernie Sanders and AOC believe that able-bodied adults should be able to choose public assistance over work. (And not all democratic socialists agree … Ro Khanna doesn’t.) That is fringe, extremist territory. And Toby Keith’s infamous song, while jingoistic and militaristic, is no more “right wing” than our own national anthem.
So can anyone name an actual “right wing” country song made this century, even the mild center-right (think Mitt Romney) version? I can’t. But with pop music so uniformly left wing, maybe they should exist.
By the way … did you know that in the 1980s and 1990s, lots of rap music was strangely right wing? Yep, plenty of rap songs in that era criticized welfare, gun control and abortion. Do you know who was the person who was individually most responsible for pushing rap music in a progressive direction to better align it with pop music? Why it was … P.Diddy. Don’t expect Rolling Stone, the Washington Post or any other mainstream media outlet to touch that with a a 10 foot pole, but it absolutely did happen.
Guinnevere
November 19, 2024 @ 2:53 pm
You’re 100% wrong about 80s and 90s rap. There was very little discussion of the topics you mentioned OTHER than to address them from a “harsh realities of inner city life” perspective. Rappers may have critiqued the system, but not individuals on welfare. You’re trying to twist things in your right wing favor but it’s simple untrue.
thegentile
November 13, 2024 @ 1:42 pm
who will conservatives blame now that they have total control of the gov’t and eggs still cost a little more?
rano
November 13, 2024 @ 2:26 pm
Sigh.
0. Music post, not a politics one. But since you kicked it off I will reply in kind.
1. Even though I am diametrically opposed to them ideologically, Joe Biden, Barack Obama and Bill Clinton did a lot of things that I agreed with. By contrast, though I mostly agree with him ideologically, I can’t name a single good thing that George W. Bush did. And George W. Bush was a better president than his father.
2. Specifically rebutting your reply.
2a. the new Congress doesn’t take over until January 3.
2b. the new president doesn’t take over until January 20.
2c. economic outcomes trail decisions made 6 months to 3 years prior.
3. While Biden did some things right, his handling of inflation and Ukraine were not among them. His prior boss, Barack Obama, handled both much better. Everyone knew that inflation post-pandemic was going to be a problem.
3a. Obama wanted to enact fossil fuel regulations to address climate change but backed off after fuel prices shot up during the great recession. Biden never backed off.
3b. Obama enacted a moderate-sized spending package to stimulate a horrible economy. Biden enacted 3 massive spending packages during a much better economy. Even Democrats like Joe Manchin warned that they would drive up inflation but Biden didn’t listen.
3c. Obama decided that America was fragile economically, divided politically and was already fully committed to Iraq, Afghanistan and the war on terror (yes, they were 3 different things) so he cut bait on Ukraine immediately by just letting Russia have Crimea. Biden OTOH talked VERY TOUGH on the issue … while truthfully only just barely providing Ukraine with the weapons necessary to prolong the war. Not WIN it, mind you, though there was a huge bipartisan faction led by Lindsay Graham who advocated giving Ukraine the weapons necessary to win the war as far back as April 2022. While his public position was the opposite, the Biden administration took the private position that allowing Russia to be defeated outright was too risky, so they opted for the combination of containing Russia’s advance and sanctions to force Russia to the negotiating table. Which, of course, has been a drag on the global economy ever since. If Biden gives Ukraine intermediate range artillery, tanks and fighter jets in summer of 2022, the war ends 6 months later because Ukraine uses them to cut off all of Russia’s supply lines. Instead, Russia mobilized hundreds of thousands of soldiers, is fully entrenched in 20% of Ukraine and it would be impossible to dislodge them even WITH the best weapons (which we still aren’t giving them). The whole thing is a debacle solely because Biden chose to listen to the State Department over the Pentagon, and the State Department still has a huge contingent that never came to grips with the fact that the Soviet Union lost the Cold War. A massive debacle that caused irreparable harm to our foreign relations – though not as much harm as the Iraq War to be fair – and tons of lives (though again not as many as Iraq).
Bottom line: Biden did some good things. His handling of inflation (and Ukraine, both from inflation and foreign relations perspectives) was not one of them.
Trigger
November 13, 2024 @ 2:59 pm
These are the kinds of unnecessary comments that bog down comments sections.
Rusty Pickup
November 14, 2024 @ 12:59 am
This was going to happen. Music and politics are intertwined the minute people mention Aldean or Beyoncé. Our music influences us.
I admire your risk in attempting to keep this civil.
CountryKnight
November 14, 2024 @ 11:20 am
thegentile’s idiocy had to be answered.
thegentile
November 15, 2024 @ 7:24 am
i can only hope that by appointing more fox news hosts to important cabinet positions my eggs will be .50 cents cheaper.
WhereWhat
November 13, 2024 @ 2:30 pm
All felons should immediately be released from prison and given a political office. It’s the new American will.
FLETCH
November 13, 2024 @ 3:55 pm
It is interesting that through RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA! Two impeachments, the nothing to see here kids Hunter laptop, criminal charges and all the comparisons to Hitler. Oh, not mention trying use our beloved country music that Trigger highlighted. That America (this is key, America as a whole) decisively was like we don’t care. What you Dems have to offer just plain SUCKS!!!
David:The Duke of Everything
November 13, 2024 @ 4:10 pm
Great article trigger though the comment section has gone off the rails. There has always been political takes in country music and it will continue. Far as what the left was doing here, i totally agree with your thoughts though you brought to light some stuff i didnt know. I prefer to come here and read and chat about music so ill avoid the political news of the day.
Strait
November 13, 2024 @ 4:39 pm
I agree that country music is best when it’s apolitical and focuses on the lives of regular people vs activism.
“The most powerful songwriters and performers among us have incredible agency to reshape heart and minds”
Covid really pulled back the curtain on what is really in the hearts of many of these ‘bleeding heart’ songwriters when they actively championed people losing their jobs and being denied entry into public places over the refusal of the MRNA vax. This doesn’t go for everyone on the Left of course, but too many happily chose to play the role of the bully when they had political and social leverage to do so….and that makes me doubt what is in their hearts and minds that is worth being used to reshape others’ minds.
Jake Cutter
November 13, 2024 @ 4:56 pm
Lost the plot is an understatement.
WhereWhat
November 13, 2024 @ 5:23 pm
Whatever is happening in the USA can we at least meet at the table, and eat supper together? I don’t think that’s too much to ask.
Sylvia Payton
November 13, 2024 @ 5:32 pm
You mean TUPAC SHiKURE the “80’s and 90’s Progressive Rapper? Rano
Shaun
November 13, 2024 @ 6:16 pm
One side openly courts and supports fascists and white supremacists. Condemning that isn’t a political choice, it’s a moral choice.
Strait
November 13, 2024 @ 8:20 pm
Name-calling and sloganeering wasn’t enough to push the cackling wine mom over the finish line this time. Here’s to hoping you all don’t learn your lesson in 28′.
Country When Country Wasn't Cool
November 13, 2024 @ 9:14 pm
I’ll give you an example of REAL fascism: I belonged to a vinyl record collecting Facebook group for years. There is some discussion of records, but most of the time members snap photos of the albums they’re listening to that day. A few days ago, I posted a Lee Greenwood album from the 80s (which was spinning on the turntable). Literally, within SECONDS, I was hit with many hateful comments directed at me, Trump, anyone who voted for him, and Greenwood himself. Within about three minutes, the comments were turned off by the administrator and my post was deleted a minute after that. So I posted another Greenwood album that was next up for me. Same exact thing happened. I didn’t post anything political at all…just albums by an artist I’ve enjoyed my entire life. So, after years of really enjoying this page, and being a high contributor, I deleted myself and left the group.
With all the talk about conservatives and Trump being fascists…the true fascists are the other side, and you are cancelled if you don’tagree with them. No wonder the nation overwhelmingly rejected them. And by the way…God Bless The USA.
Shaun
November 14, 2024 @ 4:09 am
That makes you a troll, not a patriot.
Country When Country Wasn't Cool
November 14, 2024 @ 10:08 am
No…it wasn’t intended as a political statement, in hindsight, it does make me an American, exercising my right to listen to whatever the hell I choose, and express myself, fascists becl damned. I had posted other Lee Greenwood albums, and other country music albums before without any issues, even with likes and positive comments. It isn’t my problem that some people…supposedly grown adults…are so unstable they can’t control their Trump Derangement Syndrome. If you can’t handle a photo of a record album, then maybe you should take a break from the internet until your move to another country is complete. They were trolling ME. Haters.
Di Harris
November 14, 2024 @ 10:46 am
Incorrect.
Adam S
November 14, 2024 @ 8:08 am
Lol you think that’s REAL fascism?
Di Harris
November 14, 2024 @ 8:45 am
Adam,
What is REAL fascism, in your opinion?
This entire article is chock full of examples of how fascism failed.
Country When Country Wasn't Cool
November 14, 2024 @ 10:30 am
In a government sense, of course not. On a personal level, yes. They have their self-righteous, pearl-clutching, get-in-lockstep-or-else, elitist attitudes. But really, who are THEY to tell ME I’m the outcast? We had an election, and the choice was made (and by a wide margin).The political and social tides have changed and they just can’t cope. .
Di Harris
November 13, 2024 @ 6:43 pm
“It was enacting a regime of forced compliance with decrees coming down from elite media and academic circles upon the perceived country music proletariat.”
You keep using the word “elite” when referring to media and academia.
The media and academia – yackademia/yackademics, if you will – are anything but elite.
Doug
November 13, 2024 @ 6:48 pm
Depressing post. Sorry I opened it.
Dan_Njekskold
November 13, 2024 @ 7:18 pm
Excellent article, Trigger. This article should be used at universities as an example of good research, subject matter expertise, and objective analysis. Not bad for a fellow south Dallas boy!
Kudos and keep it coming!
King Honky Of Crackershire
November 13, 2024 @ 8:42 pm
Trig,
While I’m pleased to see you taking the time to write an article about how a certain religion tried to capture Country Music the way it captured almost every other institution in the United States, I remain disappointed that you still refuse to name the religion, I presume due to cowardice.
“It was the overconfident and mob-like perspective of right-leaning country fans that resulted in the irresponsible and embarrassing cancellation of the Dixie Chicks for saying something President Trump and the MAGA movement now see as a founding principle. According to many political pundits, one of the reasons Kamala Harris lost her bid for President was from cozying up to the architects of the Iraq War like Dick and Liz Cheney.”
I like that you brought this up. It’s important to understand that the Right didn’t change its mind about war. It’s that a different segment of the Right has a voice now. Many of the Neocons and boomers who cancelled the Dixie Chicks hate Trump. Trump’s base is made up of Paleoconservatives who believe in America first isolationism. And while I’m still happy about the Dixie Chick cancellation, it isn’t because I love war or Bush, it’s because I hate vile leftist attention-whores who won’t keep their mouths shut.
It also has a lot to do with what you refer to as the top vs bottom paradigm. To me, a better framing is the people vs the system. Trump built a coalition of people from all walks of life because he represents the interests of the citizens of the United States, while the establishment political parties on both sides, which includes the media and academia, represent the government system or oligarchy. Bernie Sanders has more in common with Trump than Mitt Romney, George Bush, or Mitch McConnell do. Leftists in recent years have come crawling out of the woodwork to praise Bush.
“Similar to the warnings shared by Saving Country Music and others about trying to sway country music to the left in 2017, they’re now just as relevant to share towards the right in 2024. If country music becomes nothing more than a political mouthpiece for the right like it did in the early ’00s, it will once again run the risk of alienating itself from the rest of society, repelling potential listeners, and render itself ineffective for making strong cases for American’s rural and agrarian populations.”
I hope you’re right. The best thing Country Music could do for itself is alienate the rest of society. Similar to Trump wanting to close America’s borders, Country Music needs to close its borders to those who don’t belong. It needs to purify itself. It doesn’t need to make a strong case for America’s rural and agrarian populations; it needs to exist solely for the pleasure and entertainment of those populations.
“Country music is for everyone. And even larger than the demographic of right-leaning country music fans is the demographic of people who don’t really want to think or hear about politics at all when they listen to country music. They just want to hear humans like themselves sharing meaningful stories in the universal language of emotion and music. They want music to be a haven from all of the political acrimony that permeates so much of the rest of American life.”
Country music is not for everyone, nor should it be, and my intent is not to offend you, but it’s important that you understand that you believing that it is for everyone is why you’ll never be a true representative of Country Music. You’re too urban and disconnected. Anyone who says they’re Not Political™️ can’t be taken seriously, because they’re attempting to turn disengagement and intellectual laziness into virtues. If you believe murder should be illegal, then you are political.
Phil
November 13, 2024 @ 11:06 pm
Rednecks & Bluenecks: The Politics of Country Music
by Chris Willman (2007)
I read this when it came out and it probably still resonates now.
Strait
November 14, 2024 @ 12:03 am
I really do enjoy this article and think it perfectly sums up the issue of politics in country music. It also sums up one of the main reasons I openly passionate about the Trump and MAGA movement in 2024 – which is the anti-war principal. (Among many other things)
I have lived in Columbia TN for 4 years, which is where that courthouse in the Aldean music video was filmed. The neighbor across the street is a QAnon guy. I don’t believe in QAnon but we agree on many other things, and he is a neighbor that I trust and have given a key to my house to when I was away for a week. Columbia have people of all political leanings. They have gay pride events in the park. The real world is not as polarized as it is online.
Balanced voices get drowned out in the mix.
Peter
November 14, 2024 @ 12:14 am
Great article and a nice summation of all the stuff you’ve been reporting on over the past eight years or so. Making everything about politics is toxic. I listen to Jason Aldean and Jason Isbell, they’ve both got songs that have places in my heart. I love Eric Church. I didn’t love Brittany Aldean’s T-shirts, but I hate that I even know about it, and that the left trying to cancel her around it pushed Aldean to be more political. I hate that Eric Church is getting cancelled by people on the right for his Rolling Stones article and – don’t forget – encouraging people to vaccinate. I wish we could see us the way he sees through his Ray-Bans, too, a song that makes me think Church gets it, at least.
WhereWhat
November 14, 2024 @ 2:34 am
The deficit will once again grow exponentially under Trump but for a guy who filed bankruptcy six times he is acclimated to accruing debt and not paying for it.
Strait
November 14, 2024 @ 4:40 pm
See, this is a clear example of why the rhetoric from your side is losing it’s grip. Have you ever looked up what constituted the deficit increase under Trump? It was mostly Covid bailout money – which he was forced to do because refusing to do so would have been political suicide.
And a handful of his HUNDREDS of business ventures went bankrupt, which is a much higher success rate that the rest of the investors and moguls in the free market. He turned a few million into a few billion dollars. Doesn’t matter where you stand politically, that is still a success story.
Whodat
November 14, 2024 @ 3:29 am
One thing about Biden- he never, as far as I know, tried to have sex with a microphone.
Strait
November 14, 2024 @ 4:41 pm
only his staff assistants *cough* Tara Reade *cough *
Blair
November 15, 2024 @ 11:16 am
Funny how this keeps being brought up by Republicans and believed. . But somehow don’t care the next president is a convicted sex offender with a line of 30+ woman lined up accusing Trump of various things. A president elect who hung out with Epstein and paid off a porn actress who he fucked while being married to his third wife. Totally presidential material.
The idea that country music or musicians play some part to electing this dotard is laughable at this point.
WhereWhat
November 14, 2024 @ 4:01 am
I always chuckle when conservatives say they’ll make the economy better- i mean, have you seen the red states and their enormous poverty rates. Our poorest states in the Union are ran by republicans.
WhereWhat
November 14, 2024 @ 4:57 am
Trump nominated Gaetz for DOJ. Just like Trump, Gaetz likes his females young. Birds of the same feather flock together.
Trigger
November 14, 2024 @ 8:14 am
What does this have to do with this article, or any of the discussions being had here.
WhereWhat
November 14, 2024 @ 10:42 am
Goodbye and keep up the good work!
trarmer
November 14, 2024 @ 8:19 am
Well written Trig. Don’t agree with all of it but the piece is a strong start to framing culture (country music) and the politics. Best line – “Bob Dylan didn’t change the world though his public statements and political endorsements. He did so through his music.” This is bedrock. I was a giant Drive By Truckers fan ($$). Someone characterized them as “Red state music, Blue state lyrics” I had no issue with the lyrics addressing issues of the day or times from a left leaning viewpoint. Good art challenges how I think. Good art spurs me to think. I will drink thinking from a fire hose.
The micro: In 2016 Hood & Cooley went to the DNC, were handed a mic and then lectured everyone that their thinking was piss-poor racist/sexist/homophobic if they supported DJT. I supported DJT first go around because he was the first President I have and will probably ever get to vote for who was not a career politician. That fact mattered greatly to me as I am mostly just into freedom, free thinking and being left the hell alone by bureaucrats and other low level thinkers telling me what to do or think. I guess that makes me a good ole’ rebel. But according to the DBT’s – I was a no-good racist for it. Well DBT’s, I dropped you like a sack of dirt for the lecture. Just because you held the mic doesn’t make your opinion more correct, it just makes you louder. It’s not like Hood and Cooley have PhD’s in poly-sci from Georgetown. Settle down boys, you’re just drunks who write neat little diddy’s. Same with Isbell. He is a douche when he lectures AND King of Oklahoma is a fantastic story which highlights the destruction from prescription pills. If I had a mic I yell at Isbell and others, “be an artist not an asshole.”
The Macro: The trend in politics was to root for a team, blue or red. Then the trend was for these team politics to inject themselves into more institutions – the NFL, music and even my church. Which team are you on!!? That trend was planned and not organic. I simply loath and reject that trend of team politics or injecting that into all American institutions. But where ‘they’ miscalculated is that it is labeled COUNTRY music for reason. Country is written to relate to folks that have actually fooled with pig, skinned a deer, drove a dirt road and haven’t ridden public transportation except on vacation at Disney. Country music has few songs which pine to live in concrete, tree-less, crowded city streets and more that pine or celebrate the open, free air. Why? Because country people live in open, free air and fool with cows and horses by choice. They’ll take the freedom which comes with hardship. Trying to influence music to influence them is fools errand. How arrogant must someone be to believe its a good idea to hijack an art form to change or influence people’s minds and thoughts onto a team? Those arrogant bastards should have their heads on a pike.
As I non-sequitur, my litmus test is “is the music good art?, does it provoke thought? The team aspect of politics belies another truth: we are not all that different from each other. Red counties are 60% red, 40% blue. Blue cities are 60% blue, 40% red. That’s probably why those elites push for folks to adhere to a team. Free thinkers might cross the divide and tilt the balance of power – can’t have that now can we? Fuck all them elites. Free country music. Save Country Music.
Lake Erie Brown
November 14, 2024 @ 10:11 am
I couldn’t get past the first handful of comments due to the usual mud slinging. But I will commend Trig for writing this very balanced and nuanced piece – his writing is a key part of why I keep coming back here even as my interest in country music is not as great as it was several years ago. As someone who was disappointed in the outcome of the election, there is very little written above that I don’t agree with. This election has made a number of things clear about the failure of Democratic messaging and as a former fan, much of that was summed up in the online persona of Jason Isbell.
I will throw one small political barb out there. though it means nothing in practice….to all those calling this an “overwhelming win” and a “mandate” – according to current vote counting trends Trump will end up with under 50% of the popular vote and his PV margin will be smaller than Hillary’s PV win over him in 2016.
Di Harris
November 14, 2024 @ 10:44 am
“according to current vote counting trends Trump will end up with under 50% of the popular vote”
Incorrect.
Lake Erie Brown
November 14, 2024 @ 12:19 pm
I can’t find the post at the moment, but the current count per CNN is 50.1% with a significant number of uncounted ballots coming from urban areas in California. Even if the current margin of 2.0 holds (it won’t), HRC’s PV win was 2.1.
https://www.cnn.com/election/2024/results/president?election-data-id=2024-PG&election-painting-mode=projection-with-lead&filter-key-races=false&filter-flipped=false&filter-remaining=false
Facts
Cap'n B
November 14, 2024 @ 1:46 pm
Not taking a side here on the numbers, but what an embarrassment that California is still counting votes over a week later. Good thing they’re not a swing state.
Di Harris
November 14, 2024 @ 2:25 pm
: D You are citing CNN?
goldenglamourboybradyblocker71
November 14, 2024 @ 11:44 am
wayne,music should NOT be a left,right or centre mouthpiece,though it CAN and SHOULD sometimes deliver cogent messages re. the era’s as well as the human condition.
Bull Mason
November 14, 2024 @ 9:11 pm
Jon Harris has a new protest song out called, “I Ain’t Apologizing”
Joe Attaboy
November 15, 2024 @ 8:50 am
This post was a well-researched and incredibly well-written example of what journalism should be. Even though this is an opinion piece, you presented your points in an even-handed and logical manner. I enjoyed reading this immensely. Another reason I love coming to this site.
Great job, Trig.
goldenglamourboybradyblocker71
November 15, 2024 @ 9:13 am
For what isn’t Harris apologizing ?
WuK
November 16, 2024 @ 6:33 am
The media has a lot to answer for but they won’t! I just want to hear the facts. I want people to be able to express their views freely (within reason) without being criticised by the left liberal woke media.
It has never mattered to me who supports what. It is unlikely to alter. I might not agree with the artist’s politics but if the music is good, I will still enjoy it. Some of my favourites definitely have a different political view but they are entitled to their view as I am mine.
goldenglamourboybradyblocker71
November 16, 2024 @ 11:46 am
If you’re at all intelligent,you should be woke,WuK.
Anthony
November 16, 2024 @ 12:51 pm
In my observation, the Right — including in the country music space — are primarily about liberty and self expression, while the Left are primarily about Orwellian-esque suppression of choices and opinions that are at odds with their own. As unpacked in Trigger’s article, it was unfair and unrealistic to expect the Right to tolerate that suppression in the longer term.
Plainsman306
November 17, 2024 @ 5:30 am
Thoughtfully written and incredibly insightful Trigger.
Took the time to read it in its entirety and appreciated how comprehensive it is.
SNYDERCARLETHAN
November 21, 2024 @ 8:21 am
I have to wonder if Tyler Childers will tip-toe away from the leftist slant his music has taken in recent years or if he’ll stick to his guns in light of the perceived anti-woke backlash. It’s not 2020 anymore and there’s no denying his leftist stance cost him support despite those who insist otherwise. I’ve never been convinced it wasn’t anything more than him trying to get in with the “cool kids”/popular trend.
Chris Lewis
November 21, 2024 @ 10:26 am
I’ve always seen the parallel that was happening between country music and politics for many years, but couldn’t put it into words like you did. Great explanation! I now know how naive I was about those journalists with a political bent who were infiltrating the country music world from the very beginning, which continues to make me not trust anything anymore from elite publications/news organizations. Do you think the homogenization of country music in the years past has also played into this? In how dialects and accents have been pushed out of music and everything has become more “urban” hip hop or EDM sounds with clap and snap tracks, etc.? Also in how mainstream country music doesn’t really speak to rural people as much anymore but speaks more to suburban or city people who have a fake vision of what “country” life is?
Trigger
November 22, 2024 @ 9:59 am
The media outside of the dedicated country music media space loves to tour artists like Sam Hunt, Kidd G, Jelly Roll, Beyonce, Shaboozey, etc., because it’s country music they can enjoy or tolerate … because it’s not actually country. This has meant outsized coverage for these artists in major periodicals that has lent to the success of these performers within the country space. That said, I think the effects are mostly felt outside of country as well. Shaboozey has the biggest track in country music, and in popular music in history. But is that because of country fans listening? No. Those are pop fans supporting that track, with some country fans mixed in.
Orange Man bad
November 22, 2024 @ 9:33 am
That was a long-winded way of saying orange man bad. Stick to music That’s what you’re good at. I don’t come to this website to hear your political views I come to hear your views on country music. This isnt NPR
Trigger
November 22, 2024 @ 9:54 am
If your take from this article is “orange man bad,” you clearly didn’t read it, nor do you understand this website. I would encourage you to try again.