John Rich: Heed Your Own Advice in “Shut Up About Politics”
Now look, anyone who knows Saving Country Music knows that it’s the long-standing policy around here to sternly council artists to keep the most polarizing of political subjects once removed from the music space if at all possible. That is not a “shut up and sing” edict whatsoever. Artists have the right to speak up just as much as anyone, whether in their art, or in their public discourse. It’s simply a general proverb based off the fact that when most musical performers broach political subjects, especially in a direct manner, it usually does little to nothing for whatever cause they are championing—if it doesn’t result in an adverse effect—while often parsing their fan base in the process, and diminishing any influence their celebrity bully pulpit might have in raising awareness of important subjects and assuaging public opinion in the first place.
Furthermore, it’s the long-prevailing philosophy around these parts that politics in general is a scourge and a contagion on the populous of the United States and world, wasting untold time and resources through feeding the political industrial complex that benefits from polarization, infighting, and keeping people in a perpetual state of public disaffection so that time, attention, and money continue to flow into campaign coffers.
So on the surface, perhaps an appreciation could be found in the message of John Rich’s new song “Shut Up About Politics.” Hell, it may be even met with applause for an effort that is important and overdue. But yeah, not so much.
Even with how severe and widespread the hypocrisy is that permeates virtually everything involved in politics these days, the short guy from Big & Rich has somehow inexplicably figured out how to outdo virtually everyone else in the annals of political hypocritical history. There has been nobody with a bigger penchant for reactionary politics and delving into the fray of polarizing subjects for the last dozen years or so in country music than John Rich. He makes Jason Isbell and Toby Keith look like wishy washy moderates.
Of course, John Rich can do and say whatever the hell he wants. More power to him. But it’s the hypocrisy behind “Shut Up About Politics” that makes it extremely problematic to the point of almost being inadvertently hilarious if so many weren’t taking it so seriously.
In 2008, John Rich released a campaign song for John McCain called “Raisin’ McCain.” He played the closing ceremony of the Republican National Convention that same year. John Rich endorsed Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman in a special congressional election in New York in 2009, and Zach Wamp for Governor of Tennessee in 2010, including hosting parties at his Nashville home in support of Wamp’s campaign. He actively endorsed Rand Paul in the 2016 primary election before throwing his weight behind Donald Trump in the general election, and then played a pre-inauguration party before Trump took office.
And of course this says nothing about John Rich’s incessant broaching of politics on social media, which he’s known for just about as much as his music. Lest we forget Sock Gate just last September when Rich compelled his sound man to cut the swooshes off his Nike socks and posted them on Twitter in stern protest of the shoe company signing Colin Kaepernick as a spokesperson. Is this not the very direct and unnecessary politicization of both the football and country music space that “Shut Up About Politics” supposedly lambasts?
Again, all of this stuff is well within John Rich’s right. If he feels passionate about certain subjects and political candidates and wants to express himself, more power to him. But John Rich releasing a song demanding folks tone down the political rhetoric and keep it compartmentalized to government matters is like having Jussie Smollett give a Ted Talk on the importance of honesty.
Oh, and it gets even better. John Rich premiered the song on the Fox News program called “The Five,” which is a political roundtable show that of course regularly delves into thorny political subjects, including ones well outside of the Washington box. In fact “Shut Up About Politics” was co-written with one of the show’s hosts, Greg Gutfeld. Even if you’re a strong Fox News proponent, you must be aware that simply the name of the news outlet elicits strong politically polarizing feelings from liberals all by itself, just like CNN and MSNBC do for conservatives. Similar to some Americana artists screaming about how Trump sucks in a song, “Shut Up About Politics” is simply preaching to a choir, and so loaded with political dog whistles, it’s effort towards ratcheting down polarization has the exact opposite effect.
You want a political song with resonance and heart? Check out John Rich’s “Shuttin’ Detroit Down.” There’s a song that takes aim at an important subject and creates consensus around its message. The video even featured the well-known outspoken left-leaning Kris Kristofferson. That’s how to do a political song right. Many love to say that country music has always been political, and point to Johnny Cash and others as evidence. But Johnny Cash wasn’t political, he was universal, championing important causes like prison reform and Native American rights in a manner the helped breed ubiquitous concern as opposed to compelling listeners to retreat to separate corners.
“Shut Up About Politics” would perhaps be a welcome message coming from someone else, or if the songs wasn’t anything more than a generic, washed-out publicity stunt to promote a TV news show. On the surface, the song is right. Politics has become too divisive, and has spilled into culture in devastating ways, and it’s important to try and keep music and other cultural institutions free of the political vitriol roiling so much of society to present a space where people can come together beyond their political differences. It just happens to be that John Rich is one of the biggest perpetrators of this negative trend, and a horrible spokesperson for this cause. What is he doing on a political show in the first place? John Rich either needs to start practicing what he preaches, or find a more subtle way to get his point across than telling people to “shut up.” Because just like everything in politics, it’s only going to make the voices opposed to you want to speak louder.
June 3, 2019 @ 8:28 am
Shut up about politics if your views don’t align with mine. – The John Rich Story
June 3, 2019 @ 8:36 am
I’m not a snowflake you’re a snowflake- John Rich
June 3, 2019 @ 8:43 am
I don’t talk about politics. I’m just a patriotic American and I tell it like it is. Big difference. – John Rich
June 3, 2019 @ 11:06 am
I can understand how someone could justify showing support for the United States, the troops, the flag, and The Pledge of Allegiance as being apart from the “political” world. But as soon as you start endorsing candidates for office and taking public stances on polarizing subjects, you’ve resigned yourself to being a political animal too.
June 3, 2019 @ 8:50 am
What he means, of course, is “only conservative celebrities should be allowed to speak up about politics”. It is not an uncommon opinion to encounter on Twitter, where right wingers will get mad at liberal actors or whatnot for talking about politics while still retweeting James Woods and not seeing the irony.
June 3, 2019 @ 6:49 pm
While I think it’s more common with conservatives, as they view themselves and their concerns as the “salt of the earth,” these days calling something “politics” really just means “espousing a point of view I don’t agree with.” For instance, with conservatives it’s okay to talk about how much you love your flag and the pledge of allegiance, and for liberals it’s okay to talk about how the system is inherently biased for white people, but anything opposing these viewpoints is “politics.”
June 4, 2019 @ 7:51 pm
See…I don’t think any actual liberal would claim that describing “the system” constructed by white men 250 years ago as “inherently biased for white people” could be anything other than a political statement.
They might agree with that statement, and view it as a point of fact, but very few of them are disingenuous enough to claim that it’s not “political.”
Just like supporting civil rights for American Indians, and prison reform, are both inarguably “political” positions, for that matter.
June 5, 2019 @ 6:15 am
Touché. But my point was merely to underline the idea that many people seem to think that stating a “fact” as they see it isn’t political when it is. I’ve seen plenty of people make statements along these lines and then complain about the response.
Of course, it could just be all of the fake liberals and pseudo-conservatives doing it ????. I tend to find myself right in the middle most times, so I guess I wouldn’t know.
June 3, 2019 @ 9:04 am
I wish he’d just shut up all together. Permanently.
June 3, 2019 @ 12:42 pm
With you Dave. I guess I might choose to suffer through his politics talk in lieu of having to listen to his music.
June 3, 2019 @ 1:35 pm
Good Lord, this user name lol
June 3, 2019 @ 9:09 am
Well thought out. It would be silly to say this song isn’t hypocritical. It clearly is. I have a couple of questions though:
Should we really be saying there is a “right way” to do a political song? Is there an instruction manual? Should “Shuttin’ Detroit Down” be the template?
Personally I think one of the cool things about songwriting is the ability to say things from different points of view, or have artistic license. Some songs altogether take on the voice of characters, not reflecting the views of the author themself. I’m not saying that’s whats going on here, but trying to find hypocrisy in song lyrics is kind of like the push to find very old controversial comments by people in order to shame them / cancel them. Again, not saying that’s what you are doing, but I think it gets a little murky when we go down this route. Speaking of Isbell…how many songs does he have about drinking, told in the 1st person, after he became sober (Tupelo for example)? Was he off the wagon, or is he a hypocrite?
June 3, 2019 @ 9:30 am
This article isn’t claiming to know the right way to do a political song, because there are infinite ways thru the creative lens. Trig is merely identifying this as a wrong way. Shutting Detroit Down was referenced as A good way to do a political song. Some things work, somethings don’t. This one doesn’t.
You’re equivocating artistic license and activism. Those are two completely separate realms. One is for entertainment and the other is for education. And if you’re trying to educate someone, it’s always better to practice what you preach.
June 3, 2019 @ 9:45 am
“That’s how to do a political song RIGHT“ was what he said.
Do you really consider this song “activist?” And therefore in a “realm” where nothing I said applies, even just a little bit? If you read my comments carefully I wasn’t being absolutist, I said it was murky.
I also said “I’m not saying that’s what’s going on here” – I’m just saying there are some similarities. It’s an interesting topic, and can be looked at in many different ways. I don’t even like this guy, song or what he is saying. I already know the arguments that Trigger and most people will make, i was just trying to offer some consideration in my points. If you don’t get, fine, no problem.
June 3, 2019 @ 11:22 am
My personal opinion is that political songs should still act as a literary work lyrically. One should present a situation accurately, and from a perspective or narrative that can be followed and sympathized with. If one believes their position is the right one, then presenting the story of someone in the midst of that situation should cause one’s position to become self evident, right?
June 3, 2019 @ 11:55 am
Good point. And I agree with the overall point of this article. It’s pretty low hanging fruit though. Finding people who contradict themselves isn’t that hard to do. Everyone is in a rush to point out hypocrisy. Activist journalists do this all the time. I’ve seen it happen to Trigger. This song at face value is totally hypocritical. Let’s not talk about politics and then bring up the Green New Deal. Ok John. The fact that this is hypocritical could be said in one sentence. But this article is a lot longer, and takes a closer look at what a song should be. I just personally disagree with statements like “That’s how to do a political song right. Maybe it’s just philosophical nitpicking (I’ll admit that), but I don’t like these absolute statements being made about what is the “right” way to do this. If Trigger had said xxx song is perhaps a “better” way to do this (as Seth suggested), then fine (and by the way I agree with that). But that’s not what he said. I’m just saying let’s not try to apply too many rules to song lyrics and say there is a “right way” to write a song. I think it would be kinda funny if this guy comes out and says “I was being ironic and you all fell for it.” I won’t give him that much credit, but I also don’t claim to know his exact intentions. The best lyrics, IMO, often have a subtext and can’t be taken at face value. For example there are at least 2 ways to read the first 2 lines of this song. (again PROBABLY not the case here).
June 3, 2019 @ 12:15 pm
“Maybe it’s just philosophical nitpicking”
Very much so. Let’s move on, shall we?
June 3, 2019 @ 12:40 pm
I’ll give you credit Seth, you are consistent. In all honesty I wrote that comment especially for you to say exactly that.
In all seriousness, did u see my new comment below. Thoughts?
June 3, 2019 @ 1:27 pm
I’m happy to assist anytime, Scott.
June 3, 2019 @ 1:09 pm
Identifying a good political song is similar to identifying if a song is country or not. i.e. “I know it when I hear it.”
Of course there is an inherent subjectivity in music so we all can settle on different opinions. But it’s impossible to not settle on the fact that John Rich does not practice what he preaches in this song.
June 3, 2019 @ 1:28 pm
I’m going to be a stickler on this, sorry Trigger (and Seth), but I think you might have missed what he’s preaching. Look, I agree it’s not a great song or as effective as it could be. But I can’t help notice that people are reading this wrong. AND in the rush to determine what he is “preaching” not only was his intention missed, the fact that this benefits veterans and has cracked the iTunes top 5 has been totally missed.
June 3, 2019 @ 2:11 pm
I’m sure I’m the only person who’s going to mention this, but your Isbell comment at the end has to be a joke, right? He’s a storyteller. I could write a song about freebasing cocaine, even though I do not freebase cocaine. It’s the same way Stephen King never really experienced a supernatural l, killer clown, but “It” is still a compelling book and movie. Plus, as a guy who used to be an alcoholic, I’m sure Isbell has plenty of reference material to write a whole album of drinking songs.
June 3, 2019 @ 2:27 pm
No not a joke. It’s an example of artistic license. I agree with your argument. Artistic license makes Isbell great, among other things. I thought there was a chance that John was using artistic license or at least some irony / double meaning, but as I’ve said below, after hearing the man describe his intentions, I was totally wrong.
June 6, 2019 @ 10:18 am
Writing about past experience seems to be fair game. Isbell isn’t releasing a song titled “Never Quit Drinking.” That would be the better analogy. Rich has traded on talking about politics. Now, when presumably ‘his party’ is in charge, he’s saying “shut up about politics.” Giving him the benefit of the doubt, which would be to assume that he has sworn off any future discussion by him of politics, the very admonishment to “Shut Up About Politics” is, in itself, talking about politics.
Okay, maybe he means, “after this song, nobody y’all about politics.” That is about as effective as the person who responds to an email erroneously sent to an entire company with a “reply all” email saying “don’t send emails to the whole company,” and even moreso, the string of people who reply-all to yell at others “stop using reply all!”
June 6, 2019 @ 10:38 am
Typo/autocorrect – y’all was supposed to be “talk.”
June 6, 2019 @ 11:52 am
Yes I know. For clarity, everyone, I am in support of artistic license and writing about past experiences. I was just using that as an example of not taking everything so literally all the time. I totally get it. He’s a story teller, and I think he’s great (Isbell).
June 4, 2019 @ 7:27 am
proceeds benefiting military families is inherently political
June 8, 2019 @ 1:55 pm
I see your point. Arguably, almost everything can be traced back to politics or has political implications going forward. It doesn’t take much effort to see where anything involving the military overlaps with the political.
I have to admit, when I saw mention of proceeds from this song being donated to benefit military families, it came across like a marketing stunt. It seemed like Rich is trading on the public’s wish to support military personnel and their families. I feel the same annoyance toward all those companies who slap a bunch of pink all over their packaging and promise to donate up to X amount of money for every box top or yogurt lid people mail to them. At least Rich isn’t having people waste money (that could have gone to the cause) on postage. Still, when someone’s contributions to a cause are conditioned upon my purchase of their product, I can’t help but be skeptical of their motive.
If memory serves, Rich has done USO shows and other things to support troops and their families. I’d like to think his support is sincere and not self-serving. Someone mentioned this song cracking the top 5 on iTunes. I have to wonder if that is on the merits of the song itself, or if it is on the coattails of listeners’ wish to support our troops and their families.
Coming full circle to politics, I’d rather put my money toward candidates who intend to make sure we take care of our military personnel, veterans, and their families. The fact that any wounded warrior has a health or financial need not being met by their VA healthcare or disability benefits is a disgrace. Whatever loss in earnings potential they incur because of illness or injury incurred in the course of their service should be borne by the Nation they served.
June 4, 2019 @ 10:29 am
Thanks for comments – I can’t see anywhere to leave a “new comment” so adding onto yours!
Evidently the author of this diatribe didn’t do his homework. The reason John Rich premiered this on The Five is that Rich took the words of Greg Gutfield (one of The Five) and reworked it into a song and the shut up chorus is being sung (shouted) by Donna Brazille (a Democrat) , Greg Gutfield (a Libertarian) , Dana Parino (former Press Secretary for GW Bush) and Jesse Watters (Republican) – all of The Five when they took the show to Nashville. Everyone in the entertainment business has a perfect right to espouse their political feeling – the Democrats certainly are not shy about speaking against Republicans every chance they get – is that reserved only for them? Republicans, Conservatives, Independents and Libertarians, country music stars, etc have every right to speak out! This will be an awesome song in every bar in America – put it on the juke box – it will be right up there with I’ve Got Friends in Low Places!!!!! Relax – get your knickers out of the twist – it’s just fun!
June 4, 2019 @ 9:48 pm
I’m pretty sure at this point Trigger has done his homework. I agree with you that things can be over analyzed and sometimes we need to lighten up. And I myself am quite patriotic, but the hypocrisy here is too overwhelming to ignore, IMO.
June 3, 2019 @ 9:14 am
Every, single time I see somebody tell Jason Isbell to “shutup about politics” when I go and look at their Twitter timeline it’s nothing but politics. Considering the kind of songs Jason writes I think he would be a hypocrite to not speak up when he thinks it’s right. And what the hell is with people who have just discovered that Willie Nelson is an old hippie?
The reality of this FOX thing is that this game is just what they do. They endlessly blather about “the mainstream media” as if the top cable news channel wasn’t the realistic definition of “mainstream media.” The goal is always to invalidate what other people say by any means necessary.
And that is the difference between a John Rich and a Jason Isbell. Whether you agree with Jason or not he’s not going to tell you to shutup. He engages rather than invalidates people who disagree with him.
June 3, 2019 @ 7:17 pm
The mainstream media, outside of FOX News, is completely left wing. So by that metric, their use of the term is correct because FOX News is the
anomaly.
As if MSNBC and CNN doesn’t try to paint conservatives in a poor light. Your hypocrisy is staggering and obvious despite your fervent tries to be objective.
Isbell is not pure snow either. He pushes his beliefs and thinks he is superior to the unwashed masses.
June 4, 2019 @ 10:11 am
Actually, Fox is no exception here. They’re all elitist and pro-establishment. Fox cheers for the red team, and the others cheer for the blue team.
But really it’s all the same team. Pushing new offensive wars while never questioning the decades-long ones that have been proven (by real journalists who almost never get airtime) to be disasters, supporting the most corporate-friendly (corrupt) politicians, treating corporate CEOs like gods, filling their ranks with shills and grifters, etc.; all while mostly ignoring the healthcare crisis, opioid crisis, housing crisis, education crisis, the blatant corruption in our political system, the continued stripping away of our civil rights, etc.
I see virtually no value in any of these “news” organizations. I get my news elsewhere these days.
I see a parallel in the music industry as well. Radio and the big labels lost me years ago. I go to SCM and other places to discover new music and find truth.
September 1, 2022 @ 4:07 am
You poor little thing. Still dateless since that credit card was canceled?
June 3, 2019 @ 9:16 am
Wow what a cop out
June 3, 2019 @ 9:22 am
George Washington wrote a how-to on decorum. His most important maxims were to never discuss politics outside a government setting and to keep your religious beliefs private. The world would be a lot better off if we all subscribed to that.
June 3, 2019 @ 9:46 am
Presidential, not gubernatorial.
June 3, 2019 @ 11:07 am
Actually, I should have used the term “Primary” in that instance.
June 3, 2019 @ 10:23 am
“Johnny Cash wasn’t political, he was universal, championing important causes like prison reform and Native American rights in a manner the helped breed ubiquitous concern as opposed to compelling listeners to retreat to separate corners.”
This perfectly sums this up. In today’s political climate is us all about “us vs. them,” rather than “what can WE do to make things better.” Following Trump blindly off a cliff is no different than blindly following Hillary, Bernie, Obama, Biden, etc. However, the performers up on their soap boxes will just keep preaching to their own choir and will never truly make a difference at all. They’ll just keep putting out hypocritical stuff like this that won’t change or make anything better at all.
June 4, 2019 @ 8:00 pm
The thing is, though, that saying “People should work together to make our country a better place for the least privileged among us, such as prisoners and racial minorities” is absolutely a political statement, much as I desperately wish it weren’t.
June 5, 2019 @ 8:03 am
There is a huge difference between pointing out injustice in our country and just standing on a soap box screaming at the opposite political party to shut up. This John Rich song tells people to stay out of politics and shut up, but will he do that? How would he react to being told that? The far right and far left polarize the country and nothing gets done. John Rich seems to be buying into that stupidity. There is a huge difference between this song and “Man in Black.” I have no issue with singers, actors, etc., trying to make a difference. We all should. The issue with this song is that Rich is quite hypocritical in it as are most entertainers today. They are not trying to help anyone, they are just shoving their political bias down everyone’s throat.
June 3, 2019 @ 10:30 am
There was some click bait about this song that had Taylor Swift’s picture next to it, so for a day or so I though SHE released it. I though, “well that makes sense”. Then I heard John Rich released it and I had to laugh. Talk about a lack of self-awareness.
Oh well, the only song of theirs I like is the opener to the college football show.
Personally I wish everybody would shut up, but I would never deny myself Southeastern or Something More Than Free just because of who the artist voted for. I’ll also still go to his shows although some of my crew won’t. Life’s too short.
June 3, 2019 @ 10:58 am
Regarding Johnny Cash, there’s really no such thing as a “universal” cause, and every activist and every one of their supporters thinks their particular cause is “universal.” If somebody takes up a cause, any cause, especially in their art or performance, there will be somebody in the audience who just doesn’t agree. It just can’t be avoided.
In my opinion, it’s not necessarily about the message, but about context and delivery. A great artist or performer should be able to convey a message they feel strongly about, with certain finesse and poetry. It should be an invitation to the audience to view something from a different perspective and make up their own mind (that’s where the natural story-telling quality in country is an asset), rather than a ham-fisted accusation, condemnation, or pandering – which is where a lot of artists shoot themselves in the foot and raise hackles.
Like a lot of people, I personally don’t love politics or “causes” in my music but it should be noted that many people regard music as a major weapon or tool for politics and social change. In other words the message comes before the art. Whole genres of music hinge on politics, especially lefty politics. The mid-century folk revival, for example, was 99% lefty politics. Pete Seeger and Woody Guthrie were avowed leftists/socialists (outright advocates for Soviet communism at certain points in their lives) and the majority of their songs referenced and championed social justice and change. It’s very hard to be a fan of artists like that if you don’t already agree with their politics. Punk rock in the 80’s took a similar political trajectory.
Music and politics are interesting. Is there a right or wrong way to mix them? Who can say for sure?
June 3, 2019 @ 11:13 am
“In my opinion, it’s not necessarily about the message, but about context and delivery.”
This is what Johnny Cash, and so many artists who were considered political or activist got right in the 60’s and 70’s, and what so many are getting wrong today. Tell a story that compels people to your side of the argument. Use subtlety. Respect the other side. Try to understand their point of view as well, and use that understanding and the merits within their opinion as discussion points. And also, practice what you preach. Johnny Cash didn’t just sing about San Quentin, he went and played to the prisoners there.
June 3, 2019 @ 12:05 pm
There was that famous Woody Guthrie rant that starts with “I hate a song that makes you think that you are not any good.” That’s the problem with what Rich is doing.
June 3, 2019 @ 1:40 pm
What exactly was Woody Guthrie even talking about here? Have you read the whole rant? He’s railing against songs that might make you feel like a loser. What does that even mean?
We know he wrote “This Land is Your Land” (easily his most famous song) as a response to “God Bless America” – a relatively innocuous patriotic song written by Irving Berlin, the acclaimed composer and Jewish immigrant to America. Apparently Guthrie was irritated by Berlin’s song, and decided to write a sarcastic version, whose original lyrics have verses that deride the concept of private property and mention breadlines as a symptom of America’s apparently toxic caste society.
We can reasonably interpret that Guthrie wrote that song because he perceived Berlin’s patriotic “God Bless America” to be some sort of malicious and insidious paean to American “exceptionalism.” Was that what he meant by songs that make you feel like a loser? How does a song like “God Bless America” make you feel like a loser?
I’d wager it’s because he was an lifelong ideological Marxist and had some serious contempt for America and any patriotic songs that celebrated it. Notice “This Land is Your Land”, often regarded as a patriotic American song, doesn’t mention “America” even once?
June 3, 2019 @ 2:47 pm
Yes and no. Woody cared about the country enough to serve in the military. Pete Seeger was a communist and never got over it. Woody worked with Pete and other communists but he never got that caught up in pure ideology. He was about real people dealing with real problems and only cared about politics to the extent that it helped people. He came out of the depression and that’s what he wrote songs about. He didn’t like the Irving Berlin song because it ignored the real world that dealt with every day on the road in the ’30’s. He wanted to write songs about the world that people were dealing with he same way Johnny Cash, Merle Haggard and so on did. I know Woody is associated with hippies but he was from Oklahoma and that’s mostly what he wrote about. The gulf that exists between those different kinds of people writing about the same thing is how we got to this miserable place where singers are telling people to shutup. How did that happen?
Your post IMO is indicative of the problem with politics and music. People get so that they can’t accept the humanity and validity of expression if they think it crosses their political ideology. My problem with John Rich is that he’s telling people to shut up about problems that he doesn’t want to hear about.
June 3, 2019 @ 3:13 pm
I think he’s talking about victimhood, which shows the complexity of his thinking.
June 3, 2019 @ 3:43 pm
@John
I don’t disagree. I’m not the biggest Guthrie fan, but he’s was certainly a complex personality and creative force.
@ScottG
Not sure what you mean. Who’s “thinking” are you talking about?
June 3, 2019 @ 6:01 pm
@ Tex, I read the whole context around that quote. He’s basically saying, yes people are victims, but I don’t want to write about / dwell on it. Victimhood usually implies people preach that there is so much oppression out there, everyone is against you, you probably can’t make it. (I’m not making a comment on that ideology, just saying what it is). “He” refers to Woody, and similar to what John was saying, he seems to have not always thought as an ideologue like I previously might have been led to believe. I don’t agree with his politics personally, but I can appreciate that about him. Not 100% about the John Rich tie in personally, but I can appreciate the quote and being a person over being an ideologue.
June 4, 2019 @ 8:07 pm
I’d ask who the hell thinks that “This Land is Your Land” is a “patriotic American song”…but people do keep playing “Born in the USA” at GOP events!
Seriously, though…Steve Earle played “This Land is Your Land” everywhere he went in 2018. That should be evidence enough, haha.
June 6, 2019 @ 11:33 pm
I may be wrong, but I think the quote you’re referencing was part of the Americana Music Awards in 2016. I was so excited by the lineup that I bought a second pass and Awards ticket when I bought mine, figuring at least one person would be able to get time off from work. When they hit the Guthrie quote, my friend was awestruck – she later explained that she and her husband have a framed print of that quote in their house. A few weeks later, I received in the mail a print of the quote as a thank you.
The longer quote and context:
I hate a song that makes you think that you are not any good. I hate a song that makes you think that you are just born to lose. Bound to lose. No good to nobody. No good for nothing. Because you are too old or too young or too fat or too slim or too ugly or too this or too that. Songs that run you down or poke fun at you on account of your bad luck or hard travelling. I am out to fight those songs to my very last breath of air and my last drop of blood. I am out to sing songs that will prove to you that this is your world and that if it has hit you pretty hard and knocked you for a dozen loops, no matter what color, what size you are, how you are built, I am out to sing the songs that make you take pride in yourself and in your work. And the songs that I sing are made up for the most part by all sorts of folks just about like you. I could hire out to the other side, the big money side, and get several dollars every week just to quit singing my own kind of songs and to sing the kind that knock you down still farther and the ones that poke fun at you even more and the ones that make you think that you’ve not got any sense at all. But I decided a long time ago that I’d starve to death before I’d sing any such songs as that. The radio waves and your movies and your jukeboxes and your songbooks are already loaded down and running over with such no good songs as that anyhow.
Woody Guthrie
June 3, 2019 @ 7:13 pm
Guthrie was a hack.
And a complete idiot when it came to political beliefs. Notice how he never moved to the Communist paradise he lauded. They never do.
June 3, 2019 @ 11:10 am
Like most of the political songs I hear these days, “Shut Up About Politics” is a fairly crappy song. It will be forgotten soon enough.
It seems that when songwriters step into their pet political peeves, they lose their artistic touch.
June 3, 2019 @ 11:33 am
The song has very little depth and extremely simple and repetitive lyrics. No matter one’s side of the political spectrum, it’s an objectively bad song.
June 3, 2019 @ 11:56 am
I was thinking about this with Merle Haggard who was one of the few people to write great songs that sounded overtly right wing. It’s because he was writing about people and what matters to them rather than specifically political ideology as team sports. I think Isbell and his old band the Drive by Truckers manage to do it with the same good to bad ratio as the rest of their work. If they get to preachy and carry on to long it’s generally not good but if they keep it tight and about people and things that matter to them it works. And even Willie Nelson can’t right a decent song for a specific politician. That always ends up sounding like a tv commercial.
But the worst is when you try to write a song that devalues people like Rich does.
June 3, 2019 @ 10:13 pm
Cooley and Isbell did contradictory political songs about the TVA on the same album. And of course, DBT’s response to getting called out for almost playing the Republican National Convention was great. Trying to be the boss (on a Beaver Brown budget). All great writing.
June 3, 2019 @ 1:02 pm
Very true. The audience will often forgive, or even be receptive to a political idea contrary to their own if the song still includes some wit or entertainment value. But so many of these songs are being written from a place of anger and spite that their self-awareness and artistic acumen goes out the window.
June 4, 2019 @ 8:21 pm
Hell, quite a few of Isbell’s songs, including on Southeastern and SMTF, include lines as political as political as anything on “White Man’s World.”
Dress Blues, Flying Over Water, TVA, even Palmetto Rose has a lot of subtext built into it, not to mention Hope the High Road.
I’d argue that several of those songs are much more effective at conveying a similar message to WMW, because they don’t come right out and say it.
June 3, 2019 @ 11:27 am
Yes, there is a right way and a wrong way. Well, a few of each and it depends on the subject which will work.
It gets into influence psychology which is pretty well researched.
Generally it comes down to “don’t tell people what to think, tell them a story that makes them think the same or at least see why other people would see it that way”
Its the difference between saying “women have everything harder than men, you should feel guilty” to playing Unwed Fathers which makes everyone feel a bit more respect for single mothers and less respect for guys who leave.
June 3, 2019 @ 11:28 am
Anyone who thinks Johnny Cash’s activism on behalf of Native American rights was a universal cause, which wasn’t politically polarizing seriously needs to go read about some of the proposed and passed legislation in Arizona, New Mexico, Minnesota, etc in the 60’s and 70s. There were serious human rights violations, violations of existing treaties, blatantly targeted racial and cultural discrimination, forced living and utility restrictions on reservations with no right to representation to combat legislation, seizing of native property and illegal zoning restrictions on what was legally sovereign land. This was extremely political and there were many state, national and business interests which were all for it. It’s one of, if not the, oldest political issues in our nation. As far as John Rich, “shut up and don’t play!”
June 3, 2019 @ 1:03 pm
The cause may have not been universal, but the way Johnny Cash presented it was and resulted in heightened awareness of the issues facing Native Americans. This is the power music has to change hearts and minds when it’s done right.
June 3, 2019 @ 1:22 pm
I mean, I get it but it’s kinda like saying, “You can tackle politics as long as you dont get too political about it or take aNY particular partisan stance which may offend people.” Like it’s okay to use your platform to shine a light on a political issue as long as your stance is mainstream enough not to gain any real attention politically. Which kind of defeats the purpose altogether. In a way John Rich putting out this song, especially the avenue he’s chosen, is playing politics, even discounting his social media rhetoric and political endorsements. It’s just a safe stance with no balls.
June 3, 2019 @ 11:38 am
I’m not sure John Rich even believes what he writes or sings. I think above all else, he is a businessman who knows 99.9% of his audience for Redneck Riveria and his whiskey are right leaning and this song is catnip for that base.
If 99.9% of John Richs audience were Bernie supporters he probably would cut a song blasting the 1%. I take anything this man does with a grain of salt. He is a vapid businessman above all else.
June 3, 2019 @ 11:42 am
Also, i was thinking about how would be the right way to say “shut up about politics” and i don’t think there is a way. I mean, I want Todd Snider to keep telling me things I don’t agree with.
The song really should be “before you say anything about your opinions, research them well, consider your audience, and say it tactfully and allow the possibility that you may be wrong”
The ‘right’ way to do this is to mock the stereotype soapbox, detailing his mistakes, and when people are laughing at this stereotype, they might see some of there own faults. Similar to what Passenger did with I Hate (hidden track not sure of its name)
June 3, 2019 @ 11:43 am
John Rich is responsible for “Save A Horse, Ride A Cowboy”, so I really can’t get onboard with the guy, even when I agree with him.
June 3, 2019 @ 11:45 am
Shutting Detroit Down is a great song.
June 3, 2019 @ 12:18 pm
It occurs to me that Rich hasn’t sold a significant amount of records in many years, so perhaps this new song is a way of getting people to write about him, thus assigning to him a certain amount of relevancy, although I predict it will be fleeting.
June 3, 2019 @ 12:28 pm
Trigger,
How sure are you that he is telling people to shut up about politics and being hypocritical about it? I found this pretty quickly, in the Tennessean:
“”Shut Up About Politics” seems to be a criticism of the often aggressive nature of political discussions, with lyrics such as: “Shut up about politics / Ain’t nothing but a big pile of dirty tricks / I’m tired of all the fighting and the bitching fits / So shut up about politics.”
Maybe I’m reading this wrong, but is this suggesting that the idea or act of telling someone to shut up about politics is wrong? Or is he telling people to shut up?
There’s a danger in assuming things at face value in song lyrics. Maybe I’m wrong, I admit that I don’t know. But, the hypocrisy in this song seems too overt and obvious to not be intentional. Or then again maybe it is THAT flawed.
June 3, 2019 @ 1:06 pm
“Maybe I’m reading this wrong, but is this suggesting that the idea or act of telling someone to shut up about politics is wrong? Or is he telling people to shut up?”
As I tried to say in the review, I don’t have a problem with the message at all. In fact, a little part of me wants to applaud it. It problem is the execution is all wrong, and mostly importantly, John Rich is incapable of being the messenger of an apolitical stance when he’s the most politically active member of country’s mainstream.
June 3, 2019 @ 1:16 pm
I just heard someone who is apparently close to him imply that this song is NOT about an apolitical stance. I think it’s possible many are misreading this (including me at first glance)
Interesting that it reached # 2 on iTunes. Also of note, it also benefits a veterans organization.
Finally, I found an interesting twitter convo between him and Jason Isbell. Spoiler: neither of them tells each other to shut up.
June 3, 2019 @ 1:33 pm
Right wing political anthems have never been known for subtlety or subtext, and I don’t see what you’re seeing in those lyrics. For me they’re pretty straightforward. I went googling like you did to see if John clarifies in any way what exactly his stance is concerning the song and its message, but I couldn’t find anything. It sounds like you were reading the same Taste of Country article I was reading. Regarding that, I think he had a civil discussion with Isbell because he’s a respected peer, whereas with a Kaepernick he gets immature with sports apparel. Unless there’s a clear comment to the contrary, I don’t think we can take this song at anything g less than face value. Where did you see that someone close to him is claiming something else?
June 3, 2019 @ 2:06 pm
You know what, I went looking for it again and I found this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m6-xnbU5yo
I thought there was no way this could be face value because it it’s so hypocritical it seems intentional, or misread. That, and the other things he said, led me to believe it might be misinterpreted. But it appears I was wrong.
June 3, 2019 @ 4:28 pm
Yes, that was the video that I saw when I came to my conclusions. I appreciate you keeping us on our toes ScottG because it always takes different perspectives to understand the full story. But I think in this case, John Rich is missing the ability to see an important perspective, and it’s the most critical one, which is perspective of looking back upon yourself.
June 3, 2019 @ 4:52 pm
The whole thing is kind of mind boggling to me. Can someone really have that little self awareness? John makes Michael Scott look like a sage monk.
June 3, 2019 @ 5:37 pm
Agree with you both, and thanks Trigger.
June 3, 2019 @ 1:36 pm
Scott,
I watched the entire Fox News segment where the song was introduced, and heard John Rich and others speak on what they were trying to convey in the song. I feel like I have a very comfortable handle on what is trying to be said here. I also appreciate that some people interpret songs differently, and that may be going on here between you and I. My underlying point is it almost doesen’t matter what John Rich is trying to say in the song regardless of how you want to interpret it. He’s about the worst messenger possible.
If the song is going to a charitable cause, that’s great. That doesn’t make it a good song.
June 3, 2019 @ 1:49 pm
Fair enough. And I agree it doesn’t make it a good song. I feel like normally though in a critique of a song that is this long, that would be at least relevant enough for a small footnote. Also, the rarity of an acoustic countryish song charting so well is normally note worthy, but doesn’t seem to be here. I say all of this with respect – thank you for taking the time to respond.
June 3, 2019 @ 1:26 pm
Considering how John Rich is a frequent guest on Fox News and Greg Gutfield works for them, this song has the appearance of hypocrisy.
June 3, 2019 @ 1:36 pm
Unless of course he’s not really saying to shut up. I think it’s highly possible he’s criticizing the notion of shutting up. See his exchange on Twitter with Jason Isbell for proof of how he feels about artists expressing political views
June 3, 2019 @ 2:07 pm
Yeah, I was wrong it seems.
June 3, 2019 @ 12:32 pm
A grown man wearing pants with holes in them can’t be taken seriously.
June 3, 2019 @ 12:38 pm
But holes in guitars are ok??? Hypocrite!
(In case it isn’t obvious, that’s not meant to be taken at face value.)
June 3, 2019 @ 1:25 pm
I’ve always thought politics have no place in entertainment. All you are doing is losing fans and respect from the other side, especially if it’s an in your face statement, action, or song. However, John Rich backing that mentality is just pure hypocrisy and all it does is damage that way of thinking.
June 3, 2019 @ 4:11 pm
I’ll be honest – I figured the comments sections would rapidly devolve to the typical ‘everyone to their corners and shout at the other people’. I’ll be darned if the exact opposite has happened.
A good balanced discussion and dialogue on the song and Trigs article. Bravo SCM commenters, bravo indeed.
June 3, 2019 @ 6:29 pm
MAGA!!????????????????????????
June 3, 2019 @ 7:22 pm
Never been a big John Rich fan, but at least, the song is supporting a charity. Once again, conservatives show the superior charity support as studies have shown.
June 3, 2019 @ 10:18 pm
Bullshit, Country Knight. Like many conservatives, you’re spinning stats to further your cause:https://nonprofitquarterly.org/republicans-give-more-to-charity-than-democrats-but-theres-a-bigger-story-here/
If they had to give to charities that actually accomplish things, or give without a Christian bias, they’d do a lot less giving. Neocons like to give, as long as it’s to the right color or belief system.
June 4, 2019 @ 12:35 pm
So Trevor Curtis decides what is a charitable contribution if it’s to a left leaning organization it is a good donation and worthy of credit.
June 26, 2019 @ 10:35 am
That article is a complete farce and the comments section called it out perfectly. Fact is, Republicans tend to give out of their own free will while, as the article says, the Democrats donation is made by taxation. (Since they write the laws in their area.)
And you don’t think liberals like to give causes as long as the groups agree with them? What a load of bull. I am sure the secular liberal is running off to donate to Samaritan’s Purse.
And charities that accomplish things is a strawman. What kind of accomplishments are you talking? The government, despite decades of waging war on poverty, has failed in that regard. Yeah, the church soup kitchen hasn’t lowered the unemployment rate but that is not their objective.
And the studies show, without that Christian bias, there would be a lot less giving. You just sound like an angry person.
June 3, 2019 @ 10:28 pm
To devolution! John Rich isn’t fit to shine Michael Jackson Montgomery’s boots. Just kidding. He is the perfect guy for the job. But only after Blake Shelton has removed the bulk of the cow shit.
June 4, 2019 @ 5:31 am
Lol, seriously. I make my feel-good comment and the immediate next 3 posts are off the rails. It was a fun and nice moment for humanity there for a while haha
June 4, 2019 @ 2:00 am
I don’t understand how/why it is that most modern fans of traditional country music that I meet turn out to be left leaning? The music was written and meant to be for the working man, every man, who would traditionally have conservative values. Now you almost have to promote a progressive worldview among fellow fans your meet at a jinks/childers et al show or you are shunned by many current fans of classic country. Is it a hipster thing? I truly don’t understand. If you are a social liberal, please help me understand your passion for and attraction to the music that was enjoyed by the conservative working class in years past?
June 4, 2019 @ 8:28 am
You make it sound like a bad thing that more people are enjoying country music than just your average bigot.
June 4, 2019 @ 9:47 am
What an insightful comment. It all makes perfect sense to me now.
June 4, 2019 @ 8:41 am
Why do you presume blue-collar people have to have conservative values?
June 4, 2019 @ 9:57 am
Zeb,
Good comments. Disregard the detractors. A simple study of the demographic history of country music affirms your statement, “The music was written and meant to be for the working man, every man, who would traditionally have conservative values.”
There are always exceptions, but that has been the loosely based rule. However, it is changing somewhat. The “Americana” crowd has become a depository for many left-leaning artists that either couldn’t quite break into the mainstream or their mainstream time is past. As always, there are exceptions to that rule also.
As country music evolves, it has become more diverse. I know. That word is overused. But there is no denying that center to center-right political philosophies is still dominant in this genre. I, for one, have no problem with that.
BUT, my regret is that the phase of “bro-country” which I feel catered to those types of folks, I being one, was the main avenue. It leaves me in a pinch as I am NOT a country-bro aficionado. Thankfully it appears that phase is being “phased out.” But what is the replacement? Well, although some would like to see the Musgraves and Carlile’s of the world replace it, they are not as their audience is still not a large majority of the country music fans. They win awards, for obvious reasons, but not air time or sales numbers.
That being said, I am MOST interested in what type of “theme” will resonate, post-bro-country, with the majority of the CM audience which I still feel are more conservative, relatively speaking. Will it be the John Pardi’s? I don’t know. It will be interesting and hopefully better than the God-awful bro crap, the teeny-bop Urban disaster, or the original country music hipster, Luke Bryan, et al.
By the way, I can look past the politics if I enjoy an artist. And there are several in the Americana genre that are worthy. Just don’t ask me to define what Americana is.
June 4, 2019 @ 11:20 am
Is it surprising that most people are socially liberal (live and let live)?
Is it surprising that most people lean progressive on a wide range of social and economic policy issues, when we’ve been living with the effects of so-called conservative policy on these issues for decades?
Is it surprising that these people would also seek out good music?
June 4, 2019 @ 11:37 am
Well, Jinks and Childers are on the younger side (compared to me, anyway) and are drawing very big numbers to there live shows. And I’ve noticed from seeing people like Isbell and Sturgill from smaller venues to larger ones is that the bigger you get, the less it seems like a community of deep music lovers an maybe some of the more casual fans aren’t thinking too deeply about where country music came from.
June 4, 2019 @ 6:14 pm
Do you think that there are no working-class liberals? We definitely exist, and can enjoy music made for working folks. That being said, most of my favorite classic country songs/artists had nothing to do with their socioeconomic background. “The Grand Tour” is a song whose lyrics can be appreciated by both salt of the earth country folks AND upper class urban liberals. I think that country music’s reputation as working man’s music, while certainly earned, is a bit overstated.
June 4, 2019 @ 8:55 pm
I mean…the first country album I truly fell in love with was “I Feel Alright,” by Steve Earle (even if he doesn’t have the same “everyman” bona fides of a child star like Hank Jr).
Anyway, those guys are only played on independent radio, these days, which tends to self-select for the NPR crowd, and the NPR crowd tend to hold a few truths to be self-evident…particularly that all humans are created equal, and our creator endowed us with certain inalienable rights, and that among those rights are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Consequently, they believe those rights preclude the government’s treating humans unequally, or depriving American citizens of their liberty due to choices they make with consenting adults in the privacy of their own homes, as they pursue happiness.
Not sure how any of that conflicts with being working class…but to each their own!
(Another factor, as alluded to by Jack above: Young people, of any and all backgrounds, tend to prefer that the government stays out of their bedrooms.)
June 6, 2019 @ 12:31 pm
I think there’s a significant movement of young-ish (late twenties and thirties) folks that are trying to reclaim their roots, so to speak. Their parents, for the most part, moved to the cities or suburbs, or they did when they went to college. They’ve got fed up with the soullessness of millennial culture, and recognized what they’ve lost in traditional rural American values (community, neighborliness, self-sufficiency, being out of doors, playing traditional music) and are attempting to return to that lifestyle. At the same time, though, they’re often college educated, and exposed to a wide variety of people, so they tend to have liberal stances on a lot of social issues. Bedroom and race-related stuff for the most part.
At least here in NC, I’d wager a majority of Tyler Childers fans fit most or all of that description. The economically conservative, pro-abortion, organic-eating, Ford-Ranger-driving, cowboy-boot-wearing, gun-owning, Willie Nelson-listening lesbian farmer couple being the perfect stereotype.
June 6, 2019 @ 11:13 pm
Circling back around to this… to answer your question Zeb, I don’t identify as a liberal but my leftist politics may be considered small “l” liberal. Yet I grew up in a conservative (mostly apolitical) home with a lower middle class family in the Midwest listening to Waylon, Kris, Willie, Tom T Hall, etc… Not that conservative politically. Fast forward, as a construction trades business owner I get to check the working class box but I also have a college degree. One could blame the University for my own liberalization. But I want to say the notion that lefties are not as working class, today or historically should be dispelled. Look at the trade union history in the country where many were not just to the left, they were socialist. From the mines to the factories and fields, lots of lefties. Of course, many were listening to “country” music.
June 4, 2019 @ 6:03 am
I can just imagine the article and following comments if Musgraves, Carlile, or Brothers Osborn put out a similar song.
June 5, 2019 @ 2:15 pm
Musgraves and Brandy Clark actually did write a similar song!
It’s called “Follow Your Arrow.”
June 6, 2019 @ 10:36 am
Rich commands people to “Shut Up About Politics.”
Musgraves specifically invites people to, “Say what you think.”
June 4, 2019 @ 8:04 am
Ahh for the days of “we’ll put a boot in your ass, it’s the American way”…
June 4, 2019 @ 9:21 am
Wow..the pure hypocrisy of thing song is as stunning as it is hilarious. Is he completely lacking in anything remotely resembling self awareness??
This next part isn’t directed at you, Trigger.
Even though I sometimes strongly disagree with the opinions expressed by some artists, I absolutely cannot get behind the “shut up and sing” (or whatever you choose to rename it) sentiment. It’s extremely dehumanizing. If any regular joe on the street can express their political views to a reporter, why should entertainers be treated any differently? As a 36 year music scene veteran, I refuse to be seen and treated like a dancing monkey on a leash. Simply because I play an instrument and write music doesn’t mean I’m any less politically informed or that my opinion matters any less, and if I choose to attach a political stance to my art I should be able to do so without being scorned.
June 4, 2019 @ 11:48 am
At least he’s making music, I guess. He is the talented one of the two, anyway.
June 4, 2019 @ 12:39 pm
If you want to stand up for something you believe no matter what your choice of job is in life, whether it’s a singer or a school teacher than you should be allowed to do that, that’s freedom of speech. If you believe in democracy then you should be allowed to stand up and speak out when that democracy is threatened. And I agree with Atomic Zombie Redneck, any joe blog on the street can give their opinion so why not artists? for anyone to suggest otherwise goes against the very nature of artistic expression. Artists have been using their art form to speak out about politics and social issues for decades. Just look at the themes explored in Pink Floyd’s The Wall. CCRs Fortunate Son, Revolution by The Beatles, Bob Dylan Masters of War and of course Not Ready to Make Nice by the Dixie Chicks. Musicians and artists have and should be allowed to express themselves within their music and if they want to take a stand on any issue that is important to them and speak on it then they can and should. And anyone who does say they should keep their mouths shut does not believe in freedom of speech. Of course there is a big difference between freedom of speech and hate speech. It’s the latter that should be concerning to people, hate speech is often thrown around nowadays dressed up as opinion. Opinion it is not, learn to recognize the difference.
June 4, 2019 @ 1:49 pm
jbear123,
You will find that it usually works only one way. When the libs exercise their rights, it’s free speech. When conservatives, or for that matter any non-lib engages in expression, then it is hate-filled, racists, and homophobic. Just the times we live in.
I can’t even begin to imagine the response from the marketing arm of the liberal party (the media of course) if the same comments were hurled at the prior administration from actors and entertainers. Oh yes, there were a few that certainly spoke out. But not to the extent that we see now. Hypocrisy played out right before our eyes. These numbskulls do not realize that after socialism comes communism. And speech is then censored. The freedom of speech crowd is actually driving us towards a time when there will be limits on free speech.
We already have that, to a degree, if one exercises their rights to speak out AGAINST things such as liberalism. Hellywood actors are blacklisted if they even are middle-of-the-road, much less conservative. And what would have been the reaction if right-of-center entertainers would have spoken out in similar fashion to Brandi, Kacey, etc?
The litmus test only applies to conservatives.
June 4, 2019 @ 6:24 pm
Sorry but that is simply not true, liberals also get attacked by conservatives for their language and speech. Ilhan Omar was attacked by conservatives and sent death threats over recent comments she made.
I don’t care what side of the fence you sit on, liberal or conservative, using hate speech in the guise of an opinion to tear down people and minorities is wrong.
Which is why I don’t agree with what Ilhan Omar said and am glad she was made to apologize (but she shouldn’t have received death threats for it).
Obama got a ton of flack from conservatives when he was in power and the CMA’s even did a skit where they mocked Obama Care live on TV.
You can’t tell me that Fox news don’t call out liberals for things they say, cause I’ve seen them do it. I’ve seen the democratic candidates get called out on stuff by conservatives over the past few weeks, not only in media but also on social media. This is not a one sided affair as you make out, both sides give as good as they get.
Speech is already being censored, just read your President’s tweets.
As for you last comment there are plenty of conservative actors that are doing just fine.
Here is a link to a list of actors that are Republicans.
https://www.ranker.com/list/actors-republican-actor-and-conservative-actors-list/famous-conservatives?page=3
June 4, 2019 @ 6:28 pm
And this is what drives me crazy about modern day conservatism. Just like the libs its become whiny victimhood all the time……”the mainstresm media is against us!!” “We’re persecuted for our Christian beliefs!!” “The litmus test only applies to us!!!”
I simply cannot believe we live in a day and age where conservatives no longer take personal responsibility and complain about victimization as much as liberals. 40 years ago this was unheard of…..
Sad times indead……Goldwater is rolling in his grave.
June 4, 2019 @ 8:06 pm
I never saw a complete artical about Sturgills out pouring of political points of view on this page from his last album.
June 4, 2019 @ 10:19 pm
I guess you’re technically right in saying there was never a “complete article” about it, but I did publish his controversial statements on Trumps and his fans, and have said a number of times I believed they were foolish, judgemental, and unhelpful to his career. Trust me, my concern for the politicization of music goes both ways, and if anything has been even more critical of left leaning artists recently. If you don’t believe me, check out my recent reviews of the Will Hoge and Ryan Bingham albums.
June 5, 2019 @ 12:52 pm
Many of these posts are missing Rich’s point. It’s not that he doesn’t have his own political views, of course. It’s that political discussions don’t need to permeate EVERY single thing we do and talk about in this country. Time and place; that’s all. We don’t need political expositions at awards shows and sporting events, just to name a couple of examples. You don’t need to get together with friends who may differ with your political points of view and hash out politics all the time. Cherish the actual friendship and the fact that you might…just might…have other things in common that you could talk about or engage in. I’m pretty sure most people could agree with at least that.
June 5, 2019 @ 6:11 pm
I don’t know anything about this guy, which, I trust, is likely for the best.
I just can’t take a group named Big and Rich seriously.
But I do like the advice.
I would like to see plenty of people in the arts follow this advice, even if John Rich does so himself.
I certainly don’t share my political views with my clients.
Most artists pretty much beclown themselves when they walk down a public political path.
Cases in point in my state (TN) being Rich with Zach Wamp in 2010, as you noted in the article, and Taylor Swift in 2018 actively supporting (and perhaps even campaigning for, the hapless Phil Bredesen, who was trounced in his abortive Senate run.
I like Steve Earle, Jason Isbell and Bocephus.
I wish they would all shut up about politics, though.
Unlike Rich, however, they are all premier artists.
June 5, 2019 @ 10:27 pm
Sturgill’s message to his son with “Call To Arms” is my own personal political manifesto.. both sides have subtlety let politics indirectly drive their brand. That’s when it could become an issue depending on the situation. If you take an important stand you should stand by it with conviction whether it’s VA care reforms, Coastal wetlands, climate and meteorology. to something like Having passion to help kids that are faced with disability challenges. At times some of your passion issues will surface publicly ie Women’s rights, or maybe perhaps the 2nd amendment and reforms for or against. These artists are people too.. but John Rich who I respect sounds like he’s find with conservative political grandstanding but wants to tell Billy Bragg to shut up.. who has strong convictions to fight racism..
June 5, 2019 @ 10:30 pm
*fine
June 6, 2019 @ 10:07 am
Irony: releasing a song lamenting that they’re “Shutting Detroit Down,” while vocally supporting candidates opposed to the policy decisions to bail-out the auto industry, and later the candidates whose personal business ventures chased cheap production costs oversees for their own benefit, at the cost of American jobs.
Country music is all about telling the true story of life in America, in all our glory and our failings. Government policy decisions are interwoven into everything, whether we directly see it or not. Politics – the process through which people achieve elected or appointed offices and the machinations they will employ to retain those office and world their power – affects daily life, no doubt.
Politics, as a topic, usually is ancillary to the stories told of American life. “The Ballad of Ira Hayes” is a good example of a song that told a story, one that was related to politics, but did not need to shift the focus of the story or promote one candidate/party.
Darryl Worley’s “Have You Forgotten,” sat wrong with me because of the line ‘you say we don’t need to worry about Bin Laden.’ I lived in DC at the time and on what would have been my way to a study of Constitutional law, saw the smoke from the Pentagon and what looked like it was coming from the White House and on the Mall. We spent weeks with an armed military vehicle at the corner of our street, near the US Capitol. We then spent weeks passing the giant biohazard tents outside the Senate buildings as they dealt with the Anthrax attacks. I knew/know some of the most liberal people you could meet. Not a one said we didn’t need to worry about Bin Laden.
And, that’s what troubles me with country singers (or any) who decide to make politics the focus instead of the story of people and life itself (like JMM’s “Letters from Home,” or Tim McGraw’s “If You’re Reading This.”) Too often, the political songs attack a straw man – or overtly express a counter position that does not exist, just so they can attack it. I don’t mind “Courtesy of the Red, White, and Blue.” Not everyone agrees with the sentiment, but it is raw and it doesn’t pretend to be nuanced or pretend to air the side of those who might disagree. Yeah, I’m the one that owns Tony Keith CDs and Dixie Chicks CDs. (A fact that might draw eyerolls for a number of reasons – ha!)
I take John Rich as an opportunist and panderer who just tears off with whatever he thinks his opinion is supposed to be, without really giving facts or implications much thought. I own a Big and Rich CD, too. Just one. (A gift for my spouse.) “8th of November” and “Live Forever,” with Billy Joe Shaver. Those are almost as good as some of his other stuff is bad.
June 6, 2019 @ 10:25 am
To be clear, I refer to the JMM and TM songs as examples of songs that focus on the story. Just realized the sentence structure could be confusing.
June 6, 2019 @ 10:30 am
So, by my tabulation, as of this post there are 110 posts essentially saying “no” to the instruction to shut up about politics. ????