Leave Music & Musicians Out of Your Boycotts Against Religious Freedom Laws
New religious freedom laws in North Carolina and Mississippi, and pending legislation in Tennessee, has the South and the United States in an uproar over religious and civil liberties in an already contentious political season. And all of a sudden, music, and country music specifically, is getting caught in the crossfire.
When Bruce Springsteen announced he was canceling a North Carolina show scheduled for Sunday (4-10), it put music dead center in the political fight over LGBT rights. Other high-profile artists such as Bryan Adams have canceled shows as well, and all of a sudden musicians are being asked to choose sides and make tough decisions in a fight that’s not theirs, and that could put them at odds with their fans, other artists, the industry, and the aspirations of their careers.
“To my mind, it’s an attempt by people who cannot stand the progress our country has made in recognizing the human rights of all of our citizens to overturn that progress,” Bruce Springsteen said about the North Carolina law in a statement. “Taking all of this into account, I feel that this is a time for me and the band to show solidarity for those freedom fighters. As a result, and with deepest apologies to our dedicated fans in Greensboro, we have canceled our show scheduled for Sunday, April 10th.”
Bruce Springsteen was taking a personal stand based upon his beliefs, and whether you agree with his stance or the effectiveness of his action, he was asserting his freedom as an American to do as he chooses. However, one of the unintended consequences of his action was to all of a sudden put other artists in the precarious position of being asked to cancel their shows in North Carolina and Mississippi, and soon possibly Tennessee, or risk being labeled as part of the problem or breaking the boycott, when making music is these artists’ livelihood, most musicians have nothing to do with the new religious freedom legislation, and losing revenue and routing conflicts could cause touring musicians significant financial direst in an already tough industry.
The pressure on many country musicians was ratcheted up even more on Monday (4-11), when GLADD put out a call to the music industry in Nashville to oppose the new legislation.
“There is no doubt that these anti-LGBT bills will jeopardize this state’s economy,” GLAAD president & CEO Sarah Kate Ellis said at a press conference in Nashville. “Nashville is America’s music capital, and the companies, artists, and allied businesses here alone contribute more than $9.7 billion dollars to this state’s economy. I am here today to call on the music industry to stand with us.”
Implied in the statement is that if the Nashville music industry threatens to leave the state, and the artists who live and work in the city refuse to play, then this would put pressure on the state government to reconsider the pending legislation. Or, it could also be seen as a threat towards that Nashville music industry that if it does not oppose the legislation, a boycott could be brought against them, hurting the bottom lines of an industry already dealing with declining revenue.
But not everyone sees it the same way as GLAAD, Bruce Springsteen, and Bryan Adams.
Rhiannon Giddens, a North Carolinian, an African American roots singer, and the founding member of the old time string band the Carolina Chocolate Drops, says she’s not participating in the North Carolina boycott. While Giddens has been outspoken on political subjects previously, she’s taking a different stance when it comes to the issue of boycotting states with religious freedom laws.
“I’m not canceling my show in Greensboro. Or Asheville. Or Charlotte,” Rhiannon Giddens said on April 8th in the aftermath of the Springsteen announcement. “I’m a North Carolinian & I believe in fighting from within.”
Brandi Carlile is an openly-gay country and roots rocker originally from Washington State, who also happens to be married to her partner of four years through a legal license issued in Massachusetts. She is also not participating in the North Carolina boycott. Recently on social network, she addressed the issue by first praising Bruce Springsteen’s efforts.
“Bruce has decided on principal not to go through with his concert because of thinly veiled legislation having been passed that permits the discrimination of my LGBTQ brothers and sisters in NC,” Brandi said on Sunday. “I deeply appreciate this, and I want to say on my own behalf thank you for doing what you’re doing guys … As artists it’s our responsibility to take cause against those who would oppress our brothers and sisters and defend them using whatever power we possess.”
Then Brandi went on to explain why she would not be participating in the boycott herself. Like Rhiannon Giddens, Carlile has North Carolina shows currently on her schedule.
“I’m a small artist, and I’m gay, many of my fans are gay as well,” Brandi says. “To cancel my shows in NC would further oppress my fans who are hurt by this legislation, who worked hard to suppress it, and who need a place where they can come together. That’s why we intend to be in Wilkesboro, Charlotte, Asheville, and Greensboro this summer. We’re going to come together, let our voices be heard, not stand down, and make a joyful noise in the face of this insult of a law.”
Cyndi Lauper, who has been previously called a “gay icon,” has worked actively on many LGBT issues, and happens to also be putting out an album of classic country songs later this year, also agrees that asking music artists to boycott North Carolina and other states is wrong.
“I’ll be playing North Carolina. I think people need us there,” Lauper said. “Wherever there’s a shutout, wherever there’s people who don’t accept other people, the other people need you.”
Regardless of what happens with Tennessee’s religious freedom law, country music is not going anywhere. The deep rooted ties to Nashville go back generations, and the institutions of the genre are immovable. Any and all boycotts would be more symbolic than substantive or effective, and will only ask artists choose between two negative outcomes that ultimately may have little effect on these religious freedom laws.
Furthermore, music is a form of creative expression. This is not the healthcare industry, which happens to also have a huge footprint in Nashville, or finance and banking which has a major stake in North Carolina. Music is one of the elements of society that can unite individuals regardless of creed, religion, or sexual orientation. The creative expression of music helps spread the message of inclusiveness naturally, and threatening to stymie that process is shortsighted.
Country music specifically has made great strides towards being more inclusive to the LGBT community in the last few years, including with artists such as Brandi Carlile, and Brandy Clark, the coming out of Ty Herndon, and the recognition to Kacey Musgraves’ song “Follow Your Arrow.” But one of the reasons these artists and these moments have been so effective in the realm of country music is because they happened organically, not with ultimatums and threats to attempt to coerce people into being more inclusive. Artists like Brandy Clark and Brandi Carlile are musicians and artists first. They’re not publishing protest songs, they’re just being themselves, and their talent and universal insight into the human condition is why the country music community embraced them with open arms. That’s the power of music, and threatening boycott is threatening to take that power away.
Let’s not put musicians in the precarious position of having to choose between making a livelihood, playing music, or going against their political principles. Boycott whichever other industries you choose if you’re so inclined, but leave music and other creative industries out of the picture. If you want to see inclusiveness continue to spread, you should support artistic expression in all of its forms.
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EDITOR’S NOTE: Please keep all comments germane to the subject of MUSIC and how it interfaces with these new and proposed religious freedom laws. Strict political reactionism to the laws themselves, or ANY instances of name-calling or insult will be moderated.
Saving Country Music takes the stance of avoiding political controversies or taking political positions because it interferes with the joy of music. Subjects of a political nature are only broached when they veer directly into the path of music to the point of being unavoidable. The boycotts of North Carolina and Mississippi, and the threatened boycott of Tennessee are veering into the unavoidable in a big way, potentially affecting the livelihoods of the musicians who work and live in these states.
April 12, 2016 @ 8:22 am
I’m serious folks when I say that I will moderate comments that don’t stick to the subject at hand, which is how these religious freedom laws and boycotts are affecting music and musicians. Leave your strict political comments for other places. Please and thank you.
April 12, 2016 @ 8:31 am
Whatever happened to separation between church and state?
April 12, 2016 @ 11:09 am
Who knew we had so many legislators who are unfamiliat with the entirety of the First Amendment?
April 12, 2016 @ 11:10 am
“Whatever happened to separation between church and state? ”
It does not exist.
April 13, 2016 @ 7:41 pm
…Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;… that is what the first amendment says. These laws are just upholding that.
These laws simply uphold freedom, if someone is denied at one business, they can move on down the road to a place they are welcome at. If these laws allowed physical harm, or hatespeech, I would have an issue. However, liberal media is just acting like these laws are worse than they are. If these artists are boycotting these states, they might as well boycott the other 30some states that already have similar laws.
I fully support these artists for doing what they feel is right, weather they play in these states, or do not. However, by not playing they are basically doing the same thing they are fighting against. Denying services to these states because they believe that the states are in the wrong.
April 12, 2016 @ 8:40 am
I think you’ll find the folks who can afford to boycott will do so and those who can’t will work and address separately from their art or during performance. I honestly can’t fault either approach. Historically financial sanctions are extremely effective though.
April 12, 2016 @ 8:41 am
I think the pressure placed on smaller artists, many whom rely on touring for revenue, is unfair. While they don’t want to appear like they support the laws by playing in these states, they aren’t all millionaires like Bruce Springsteen. Also, at least in the case of the Springsteen concert cancellation, the fans who invested their monies were really the only ones hurt by the show being called. He wasn’t slated to be one of the bigger revenue generating shows this year, so economically, the city will recoup the money.
April 12, 2016 @ 8:49 am
My wife and I were planning a visit to Asheville in the next year — we canceled it entirely because we refuse to support laws like that. But if I were a musician who had gigs booked there, I’d do them because it’s part of being a professional.
Jackie Robinson played baseball in deeply segregated cities. As much as he detested that part of it, he did it, because that’s how professionals act. And by doing that, he helped change America. I respect what Springsteen is doing, but would he be more effective at creating the change he’s looking for by doing the gigs, making his support for gay and lesbian rights a central part of the show, and giving the profits from them to GLBT causes? It’s up to him — just saying, you can’t change someone you won’t communicate with.
April 12, 2016 @ 8:49 am
What I’m failing to understand in all of this. Is how is this any different than the “gay wedding cake” issue? Someone is refusing to offer their services for personal views. I know this doesn’t pertain directly to the “music” side of things, but it does in the end. Because it could affect ticket/contract law…no? Springsteen broke his contract with his fans on an issue that is not threatening to his actual physical health and wellbeing.
Look, I could careless what Bruce does. But let’s not poopoo things here. This is absolutely the same thing as the incident with the cake baker and he has brought music/concerts directly into the line of fire by his actions. So I do believe there is a parallel between the incidents that could be discussed
April 12, 2016 @ 9:05 am
The difference is that he’s targeting the venue, rather than private citizens.
It’s like a bakery choosing not to bring their cake to a gay wedding goods convention, haha.
April 12, 2016 @ 9:05 am
In my opinion, this is the difference. The cake baker runs a private business, he can serve who he wants. The cake baker also never said he would bake a cake for a gay couple. Bruce Springsteen on the other hand, did say he would play this concert. Maybe not directly, but his managers set it up, he was paid, fans bought tickets. So both scenarios involve refusing to do something based on personal views, the difference being the cake baker was under no obligation to bake the cake, whereas Springsteen WAS obligated to play the concert. Anyway, that’s my opinion.
April 12, 2016 @ 9:06 am
The baker had a right to refuse service. So does Springsteen. Except for that pesky contractual thing. However, the baker did not call for all other bakers to refuse service. That’s how this is different.
April 12, 2016 @ 9:11 am
If Bruce had simply said he wouldn’t play any MORE concerts in NC, I would have been fine with it. But since he was under contract to play this concert, I think he should have played it.
April 13, 2016 @ 2:46 pm
How do we know the terms of Bruce’s contract? I’m sure someone at his level has things worked out in a way that if for any reason he changes his mind he’s under no contractual obligation to perform. If he were legally bound to play, he would still be playing.
April 12, 2016 @ 9:14 am
However, the baker did not call for all other bakers to refuse service.
Bruce has not called for other artists to boycott NC as far as I know.
April 12, 2016 @ 9:55 am
Shhhh, your pesky facts are ruining the narrative!
April 12, 2016 @ 9:57 am
Not that I can find online, either…but there are sure a lot of artists doing so. I’m sure there is a lot going on behind the scenes, and Bruce is pulling some serious strings.
April 12, 2016 @ 8:53 am
I’ve never been a fan of boycotting as a firm of protest, simply because business is bigger than an idea: gay people work at Chick-fil-A, work at the hotels with now-cancelled hotel & dinner reservations in NC, etc.
But, as a gay man and a somewhat politically centric person, when an artist becomes overtly political I tend to tune out, and in country music I am nearly afraid of artists letting their political cats out of the bag. The worst example lately has been seeing Chris Stapleton aligning with Hank Williams, Jr. Their pairing can be a solely artistic one, but Hank’s vocal politics makes him poison to my ears now…
April 12, 2016 @ 9:56 am
Wait wait wait, You’re saying Christ Stapleton is now “poison to your ears” because he’s doing shows with Hank Jr.????
April 12, 2016 @ 10:36 am
Pronoun agreement is a sumbitch. haha
April 12, 2016 @ 11:05 am
I think Kent meant that you’re upset you had to sit through Hank while seeing Chris after I reread it. Pronoun agreement is a sumbitch indeed,
April 12, 2016 @ 11:40 am
Well, Chris Stapleton also performed at a tribute concert for John Lennon, an artist who was not exactly known for his conservative political leanings. And his most high profile public performance so far has been a collaboration with Justin Timberlake, an outspoken Obama supporter.
I’m not saying Stapleton’s run of tour dates with Bocephus is a perfect pairing, but to attempt to pin him down, politically or otherwise, on the basis of a handful of shows with another artist doesn’t seem right, especially considering that to this point the man himself hasn’t said a damn thing about politics or social issues one way or another, as far as I can remember.
To me, Stapleton is like Willie Nelson; he seems like he can and will collaborate with just about anybody. We’ve already seen that just in the last six months or so. And in the same summer that he’s playing dates with Hank Jr., he’s also co-headlining a date with the Alabama Shakes and playing Bonnaroo. How many other artists could pull that off? Hell, at some point one of these country award shows will probably have Chris get up and sing a duet with Sam Hunt, and it will likely make me want to puke, but if anybody on the planet could pull that off, it might be him.
April 12, 2016 @ 8:56 am
I’ve read/seen statements from Rhiannon Giddens in the past where she talks about her biracial background and that she doesn’t completely identify with being black or white. Rather, she says that she identifies with being a North Carolinian. She was outspoken a few years back in support of gay marriage and against a ballot initiative in North Carolina that would define marriage as between one man and one woman. Anyone who expects her to stop playing shows in her home state because of Bruce’s decision is expecting too much.
April 12, 2016 @ 8:59 am
I just think it’s bullshit for these artists to cancel concerts. If you are a performer, your job is to perform. If you are paid to play a concert, I believe you have to play it. The only legitimate excuses in my opinion are sickness, family tragedies, if your wife has a baby, and maybe a few other things. But I am tired of some of these big artists acting like society’s rules don’t apply to them. Who else can get away with saying they’ll do their work, and then not doing it? I’m also tired of the self righteous attitude of people who boycott stuff like this.
Do what you’re paid to do, live your life, stay out of everyone else’s business.
April 12, 2016 @ 9:35 am
It’s a kind of extortion, right? My way or the highway. What’s next, you have to pledge allegiance to Bruce at the ticket counter before you get a pass? I quit idolizing Jackson Brown a long time ago, for his political opinions.
April 12, 2016 @ 9:38 am
What”™s next, you have to pledge allegiance to Bruce at the ticket counter before you get a pass?
Oh, yeah. I’m sure that’s what’s next.
April 12, 2016 @ 9:45 am
Yes to all of this. If you are a musician, your microphone is for your music, not your politics. If the two happen to harmoniously cross and make a difference, then great. Otherwise, honor your contract and play for the folks who shell out their hard-earned money to see you perform.
April 12, 2016 @ 2:29 pm
“Who else can get away with saying they”™ll do their work, and then not doing it?”
Here’s the thing: if I hire a plumber and he cancels for a reason I don’t think is justified, I will never try to hire this plumber again. If he does this often and with more people, that will eventually hurt his business.
And it’s exactly the same with a musician, if you ask me. Springsteen has every right to cancel his show (as long as his fans get their ticket money back, which in this case is happening). Anyone in NC or elsewhere in turn has the right not to attend his concert again if they feel Bruce is being unprofessional. Like with my plumber if enough people thought like that this would hurt Springsteen’s business as well. I don’t see how a musician is different to any other business.
This is also why I agree with Trigger that musicians shouldn’t be forced to take a stand. While I doubt boycotting Springsteen over this will ever reach critical mass, other musicians could suffer from cancelling gigs, just like plumbers would for not showing up.
April 12, 2016 @ 3:52 pm
Are you agreeing with me or disagreeing with me? Because I agree with everything you just said.
April 12, 2016 @ 9:00 am
Boycotts don’t work. The only people hurt by Springsteen’s cancelled show are the working class that gain from concerts like this and lost potential revenue because of the cancellation. The only person to gain from this will be Springsteen, from the publicity.
April 12, 2016 @ 9:06 am
Tell that to Indiana and Georgia, haha.
April 12, 2016 @ 9:10 am
You’ll have to explain that one to me!
April 12, 2016 @ 9:54 am
The governor vetoed Georgia’s RFRA bill because Disney, Apple, Time Warner and Intel all threatened to pull jobs out of the state, while the NFL and the NCAA told them they wouldn’t be allowed to host the Super Bowl or championship games.
Indiana’s bill got amended to prevent it from applying to gay couples, after the NCAA threatened to prevent them from hosting future events, Angie’s List (an IN based company) threatened to move 1000 jobs out of state, their Chamber of Commerce called them idiots, several mayors and governors banned state/city-sponsored travel to Indiana, and several musicians boycotted.
Financial pressure works.
April 12, 2016 @ 10:04 am
Totally agreed Lester. This North Carolina bill will go down the minute more companies start threatening to pull out of N.C.’s research triangle park. Politicians may love these bills cause it scores them points with the religious right, but if people start losing jobs and threatening to vote them out of office, they forget about that religious right pretty damn quick.
Boycotting Disney because the latest Spider-Man film sucked may not work, but Disney and the like boycotting states and hurting their state and local economies? Oh, yeah that definitely works.
April 12, 2016 @ 10:11 am
Thank you. But what you describe is not a “boycott.” It is capitalism. Companies made threats, people made deals, and things were resolved. This is different from Bruce telling his fans to boycott a whole state. Music is not Politics. I think it’s pretentious of Bruce to leverage his popularity for political gain.
April 12, 2016 @ 11:19 am
So, the NCAA, NFL and Disney refusing to perform in GA if that law were to be passed is somehow different than Bruce refusing to perform in NC because that law was passed?
Oooooookay?
Also, what on earth are you talking about with regards to boycotts vs. “capitalism”? Using the power of the market to effect political change is the single most capitalist form of protest that has ever existed.
April 13, 2016 @ 9:46 pm
Bruce isn’t leveraging for political gain. He’s protesting discrimination.
April 13, 2016 @ 2:51 pm
These people are being hurt by the legislators, not by Bruce. If not for the legislation, he would still be playing. Let’s make sure to lay the blame on the correct source.
April 12, 2016 @ 9:02 am
I understand both sides. And both views are right.
Big acts like Bruce Springsteen and Bryan Adams get a lot of media awareness with their boycotts.
If “small” acts cancel their shows, they just snub their fans ”“ at least in Brandi Carlile”™s case many gay fans ”“ and lose money.
April 12, 2016 @ 9:02 am
The artists are all adults. If one artist doesn’t want to play a state for a particular reason, go get ’em. If another artist feels differently, I don’t really care. But I do not agree with the sentiment that music should not be a catalyst for change and a way to stand up to things that are wrong in society. That is exactly what music SHOULD be.
Oh, and don’t call these laws “religious freedom.” Legislating discrimination against a group based on your religious beliefs is just trying to legalize bigotry, ignorance and hate. Or maybe I should try and pass legislation banning the practice of Christianity on the basis that it infringes on my beliefs in science and reason. I will call it science freedom legislation and will encourage musicians to boycott on my behalf.
April 12, 2016 @ 11:13 am
I don’t think he meant to state that he sees them as “religious freedom” laws. I think he was trying to represent these laws as the dumbass representatives in these states see them.
April 13, 2016 @ 6:58 am
As a Christian, I really appreciate Trigger walking that fine line of being unbiased, regardless of his personal views. I’m stuck in the middle on this issue, probably seeing both sides better than most. There needs to be a better compromise, not 100% one way or the other. But I much prefer Brandi and Rhiannon’s approach, fighting from within, and agree that Bruce’s boycott will only benefit his publicity.
April 13, 2016 @ 8:53 am
“Religious freedom” laws are how these laws are being collectively referred to in public, and that is the only reason I used that term. I’m not trying to make some political statement with it.
April 13, 2016 @ 8:59 am
I 100% agree, I wish the national media would be more un-biased like you.
April 12, 2016 @ 9:03 am
But they have no problem playing in countries where being gay is punishable by jail or worse? Bunce of hypocrits.
April 12, 2016 @ 9:07 am
Which country has Springsteen played in where that statement is true?
April 12, 2016 @ 9:52 am
Probably was talking about Bryan Adams
April 12, 2016 @ 9:09 am
If I was a fan of Bruce Springsteen I would boycott his music. Not because of his opinion but because of all the fans he is letting down by cancelling his show. It shows he cares more about his political nonsense than his fans. He needs to remember his fans are the reason he has a public voice. He shouldn’t abandon them because he got his panties in a wad over legislation in a state he probably only visits once every few years.
April 12, 2016 @ 9:14 am
That’s another good point- he’s probably just doing this for the publicity. I doubt he really cares about the laws in NC. He might, but I doubt it.
April 12, 2016 @ 9:50 am
Why would Bruce Springsteen need publicity? Come on, you can not like his stance, but to think this is all some ploy by a guy who is starting to push 70 is being kinda foolish. If this was a band like FGL or an artist like Katy Perry, someone young and popular who could benefit from increased attention, then I might buy it. This is Bruce Springsteen, the guy has a massive fan base and hasn’t pushed for or had much mainstream radio play since basically 9/11.
April 12, 2016 @ 10:15 am
Well, you can’t follow the money…follow the power. He wants to control an outcome.
April 12, 2016 @ 10:21 am
Bingo. Bruce can do whatever he damn well pleases. He’s earned it.
Bruce’s fans at this point are pretty goddamn loyal, wouldn’t you say? I don’t think he’s turning too many of them off at this stage of the game.
Bruce is exactly who needs to step up and be a prominent dissenter about this kind of crap.
April 12, 2016 @ 10:23 am
I think you made their point. He hasn’t been relevant for a while and we wouldn’t be talking about him if he didn’t cancel the concert.
April 12, 2016 @ 11:15 am
He’s Bruce fucking Springsteen. He’ll be relevant 20 years after he’s dead.
April 12, 2016 @ 1:10 pm
And Cool Lester for the win!
April 12, 2016 @ 1:25 pm
Read the comments on most articles about this and you’ll find most people are surprised he is still alive.
April 12, 2016 @ 1:33 pm
If you comment enough you might be right once right Lester?
Billy Joel outsold Bruce in concert sales and I wouldn’t consider billy exactly relevant.
April 12, 2016 @ 1:40 pm
Come on man, you might disagree with Bruce Springsteen’s point of view on this, but to call him irrelevant is comically wrong. And I suspect people who are “surprised he is still alive” are either extremely young or just comically unaware.
April 12, 2016 @ 1:58 pm
Comparing Billy Joel to Bruce Springsteen will get you nowhere quickly. You can’t compare the two, sorry. A for effort, but, no, just no…
April 12, 2016 @ 2:02 pm
I actually love Billy Joel, but he only outsells Bruce because he tours so much less often.
And anyone over the age of 16 who didn’t realize Bruce Springsteen was still alive needs to re-evaluate their choices in life.
April 12, 2016 @ 2:16 pm
I’m not a big fan of the term “relevant” when speaking of the value of music artists/acts. So many of the artists covered and loved by many on this site are not terribly relevant in the zeitgeist sense where people like Sam Hunt and Justin Bieber score higher in that respect. But why is this such a big story if Bruce is so irrelevant?
April 12, 2016 @ 2:33 pm
So many e-mail! haha
The only thing I disagree with is not playing for the fans who paid their money to see him. He’s not holding up his end of the bargain. If this concert was for the NC legislatures then you can cancel.
Also again we wouldn’t be talking about him at all if he didn’t cancel thus making him relevant in the news cycle.
April 12, 2016 @ 11:16 am
Yea so unless Bruce doesn’t something like murder someone, I’m not boycotting his music.
Even if I did very strongly disagree with this move (I don’t by the way, very indifferent), what good would me not listening to him in the car by myself do?
April 13, 2016 @ 9:48 pm
It’s more likely that Bruce’s fans totally agree with what he is doing and are praising him for it.
April 12, 2016 @ 9:10 am
Yeah, it’s completely unfair to hold smaller artists to the same standard as mega-stars like Springsteen, or mega-corporations like Disney.
If I were GLAAD, I’d want RCA to pressure the governor of Tennesee, but I wouldn’t ask Brandy Clark.
April 12, 2016 @ 9:12 am
I like when artists like Bryan Adams cancel shows in Mississippi in protest but plays shows in countries that have maybe the worst gay rights laws…Egypt and Qatar for example.
Its just SJW hypocrisy at its best.
April 12, 2016 @ 9:54 am
I don’t like the Social Justice Warriors either, but I suspect their argument is that nobody is expecting Qatar or Egypt to be inclusive places that welcome and accept everyone. I mean, most of the Middle East countries don’t even give rights to women, much less those in the LGBT community.
I suspect if you asked Bryan Adams or the like, it would be because they hold America to a higher standard in regards to discrimination and human rights than those other countries. May not be fair, but I am guessing that is what their logic is.
April 12, 2016 @ 10:27 am
Plan and simple he followed the money. He was getting a big payday over there so he went. He probably figures by canceling in Mississippi, who’s tickets weren’t selling all that well anyway, he’d benefit from the greater publicity.
I don’t care what anyone’s views are, but you have to call a spade a spade.
April 12, 2016 @ 9:14 am
I think that you make a statement as effectively as YOU can in a way that YOU can create as much impact as possible . Springsteen’s name and the coverage his cancellation will generate is the most effective way that HE can protest . In the case of lesser known acts ( Brandi Carlile . Giddens …etc. ) perhaps the most effective way their voices can be heard is to play the shows and work ” from within ‘ as Giddens suggests . Brandi cancelling a few shows in NC will not say much nationwide to those unfamiliar with her , being a relatively new artist with nowhere near the fan base a Springsteen or a Bryan Adams has . And yes …there is a professional aspect to all of this and the question of fulfilling contractual commitments for the sake of your fans , musicians and families in your camp , road crews ,your record labels ,your future in the industry and , of course, any opening acts…. not to mention your landlord . Lots of artists , athletes , musicians ( early jazzers ) actors and otherwise celebrities and well-knowns have had to make tough choices based on factors beyond how those choices might affect them personally . Jagger once said ‘ sure the Stones could retire …but we’d put thousands of people and families currently employed by us out of work “.
…If you are intent on and/or feel compelled to make a statement, I think you make it as effectively as YOU can based on the value of your ” stock “.
April 12, 2016 @ 9:20 am
Well said, Albert.
April 12, 2016 @ 9:17 am
We have freedoms and they allow us to decide how we want to protest something, if we choose to do so.
IMO: If you have such strong opinions, use the show to voice them. Right a song about it and sing it!
April 12, 2016 @ 9:23 am
Byran Adams cancels concert in Mississippi, well that’s 12 pissed off folks!
April 12, 2016 @ 9:45 am
I was also questioning the use of the phrase “high profile” in regards to Bryan Adams. I haven’t heard his name since the 80’s.
April 12, 2016 @ 2:56 pm
You’re just not paying attention, he just had a #1 hit in 1995.
April 12, 2016 @ 9:38 am
I have a solution. Every establishment has three bathrooms. (1) I gotta pee (2) I gotta pee right now (3) I gotta poop or primp.
April 12, 2016 @ 9:49 am
Good way to put it. When Springsteen canceled that show, the only people who got screwed were the fans. And it takes a lot of audacity for Sarah Ellis to ask Nashville & Tennessee to stand w/ her. I’ve spent a lot of time in Tennessee and around people who love country music. There is one thing I’ve noticed in this community. Thay are mostly hard working accepting and laid back people just trying to get by in this world, but when the rubber meets they road they also lean more toward traditional values. Take from that what you want.
April 12, 2016 @ 10:01 am
Well, the fans…and local businesses…and the city…and any additional sales taxes the state might have received from people coming up from SC, down from VA or east from TN and KY.
The Greensboro show was one of two scheduled in the southeast for 2016, and the Atlanta show was in February.
A Springsteen show would have given a pretty big bump to NC’s revenue this month.
April 12, 2016 @ 9:58 am
The fans are not the only ones who got screwed with the cancelled show. Local hotels, restaurants, bars, even parking garages all lost money on the show being cancelled. And since the fans get their money back, you could argue that they were the least screwed over by this (although that might be a stretch).
April 12, 2016 @ 10:07 am
Yup. This screws over the City of Greensboro far more than the fans…which is exactly why he did it.
But only a Bruce-level artist can really do that, so there’s no reason for the rest of them to.
April 12, 2016 @ 11:02 am
Definitely agree. Bruce right now is one of the 10-20 biggest draws in the world for music, so his actions should not be necessarily the same as others.
April 12, 2016 @ 9:59 am
To me these laws are useless and a waste of tax payer funds. You cannot accept LGBT people, that is your fundamental right, but much like Voter ID laws, these are laws cooked up by politicians to make them look good to their base voters. There is virtually zero proof of the need of this law or Voter ID laws to be on the books and quite frankly as a semi-Libertarian I get super skeeved out when the Government starts going down this road. It simply isn’t their place to do so.
That being said, I agree with Trigger, pressure should not be put on smaller bands/artists to not play certain states. American Aquarium should not be held to the same standard as Springsteen or even Bryan Adams. Why some people would even think that is fair is beyond me, but then again America increasingly seem to be on a race to the bottom when it comes to intelligence.
April 12, 2016 @ 10:10 am
I think that different artists can make different decisions on playing shows in these states,, and as long as it’s thought-out and explained articulately, that’s totally reasonable. It should probably be noted that it is not only music in this boat, many sporting organizations also find themselves in similar quandaries.
I also think it’s different if you are based in a state versus choosing to visit. To continue the sports analogy, nobody expects the Carolina Panthers to move, or not play in North Carolina, but the NFL would take a lot of heat if they chose to schedule a Super Bowl in North Carolina.
Boycotts can be effective. They have worked in multiple places recently. When there is enough economic pressure most states will look for an out. I don’t think touring musicians by themselves can bring enough economic pressure, although higher profile names like Springsteen can shed a light on an issue. However, if RCA etc threatened to pull out of Tenn, or big festivals refused to book, it would make some people take a second look.
April 12, 2016 @ 10:11 am
If Bruce Springsteen cancels shows in NC to make a statement, that’s his right although like some other posters here I believe he should think the whole thing through and think about who he’s really hurting. The people he’s supposedly aiming at–those who push these laws–are seldom truly hurt by these boycotts.
But whatever Springsteen does should be about Springsteen alone. If another artist, big or small, decides to continue on with shows it doesn’t necessarily mean that they support the laws. They shouldn’t get beaten up for just trying to make a living. I mean, is every LGBT person in NC quitting his/her job? Didn’t think so.
April 12, 2016 @ 10:12 am
I guess Bruce changed his mind, because when he was supporting Barry Soetoro for Tribal Chieftain the first time around, Barry was publicly opposed to sham marriage. Canadian virtue -signalers, like Bryan Adams have a long history of sticking their noses into local American politics and social matters. If Adams is so up in arms, I suggest he go back to Canadastan and take Neil Young with him. There are increasing instances of plural marriage, child brides, rape, sexual mutilation, honor killings, etc. among the growing Canadian Muslim population. I assume that Mr. Adams will be chaining himself to mosques in the near future. Bryan, have you ever really loved a man?
April 12, 2016 @ 2:05 pm
Don’t use other commenter’s handles to post comically racist screeds, bro.
That’s just rude.
April 12, 2016 @ 2:11 pm
Don’t forget my bigotry, xenophobia, misogyny, “homophobia,” etc.
April 12, 2016 @ 3:23 pm
Eh, for this one, I’m gonna stick with the pathetic absurdity of referring to our current Commander in Chief, and a former Constitutional Law professor at UChicago, as a “Tribal Chieftain.”
I expect general ignorance from you, but you usually at least try to veil just how much of a retard you are.
April 12, 2016 @ 10:13 am
Maybe I’m looking at this too simply, but I just don’t get how bailing on your fans is going to convince the state of North Carolina to change the new laws. Although its a nice to show solidarity and support, do these artists think that the people who put this into place are really going to care or change their minds, because Bruce Springsteen and Bryan Adams cancelled their shows? After all, they’re not cancelling on the politicians who did this, they’re cancelling on the people who basically pay their bills. If this had happened in my state, and a show I was really looking forward to was cancelled by the artists decision, I’d be pretty annoyed. And I don’t mean in any way that I don’t support the idea behind it – I totally do, and completely disagree with what is going on. I just don’t see how one will really affect the other.
April 12, 2016 @ 10:28 am
That’s the way things are in this country now, as far as the new overly pc and social justice population; you’re either with them or you are an enemy. There is no longer neutral ground and not taking a side isn’t an option to these people. It’s no better than extortion and I think it’s going to affect way more than music before its all over. We are all totally fucked.
April 12, 2016 @ 10:36 am
There is no longer neutral ground and not taking a side isn”™t an option to these people.
Big agree. And that’s what can bring trouble to smaller artists. I know some local artists who have shows scheduled for NC in the near future and I hate to think of them getting dumped on if they don’t cancel. These are people who have to make good on their commitments; if they don’t they can’t feed their kids–literally. They can’t just climb into their private jets and wing off to the tropics until the next show.
April 12, 2016 @ 11:17 am
Regardless of whether or not people agree with his position, is anyone really surprised? His actions are pretty much a natural extension of who he is as an artist. The guy has always been political.
April 12, 2016 @ 11:55 am
That’s why I understand ZERO of the outrage (in regards to Springsteen “screwing his fans”). This is the same guy who wrote The Ghost of Tom Joad, Born in the U.S.A., Born to Run, Atlantic City, etc. For fucks sake, his fans probably threatened him with dismemberment if he DIDN’T boycott.
What I’m trying to say is, if you consider yourself a Springsteen fan and are “outraged”, “hurt”, “betrayed”, by this move. Then, you likely haven’t been paying attention to much of the guys music.
April 12, 2016 @ 1:57 pm
Howdy Coop, Darkness on the edge of town and Nebraska, are Great albums, and yes I know ‘great’ gets thrown around way too much. I still believe if Bruce were up and coming, the show would have gone on, kinda like do as I say, not as I do…
April 13, 2016 @ 6:28 am
Definitely concur with great being used in this case. And, yes, if he were up and coming, he would still be playing the show. Probably in the “fight it from within” camp.
Also, dope username.
April 13, 2016 @ 2:58 pm
Disagree. Artists like Bruce Springsteen are who they are because they’ve always stuck to their principles. Not saying that smaller artists should cancel their shows today. But Bruce most likely would have always made this choice.
April 12, 2016 @ 11:38 am
As a transgender woman myself, I largely agree with this commentary.
Look, I get that history has demonstrated that boycotts are an effective way at putting pressure on officials to rectify a situation. Recent instances in Indiana, Georgia and South Dakota prove that. I don’t deny the effectiveness of the approach.
But at the same time, as someone who has struggled to find employment my whole life and achieve self-sufficiency………………I can’t help but feel that there have to be more effective ways at confronting and resolving matters like these without making a complete state population vulnerable to cutbacks in a sequester-like fashion.
Unfortunately, I struggle thinking of a specific one off the top of my head. But an analogy that comes to mind when I think of these unfortunate laws and responding to the is forest management. There are ways you can treat and remove specific features of a wilderness to prevent more alarming wildfires without spoiling the scenery or compromising the biodiversity of the region, and then there’s more cynically feeling an entire forest needs to be scorched to be saved.
State boycotts can’t help but strike me as the latter in that they have a scorched-earth, cynical instinct to them. There simply have to be ways you can reinforce the same urgency without making those not responsible for such laws vulnerable. =(
April 12, 2016 @ 11:52 am
I would personally boycott any musician who boycotts religious freedom.
April 12, 2016 @ 12:02 pm
But that leaves you to decide what religious freedom is, and that is the problem. I’m not even sure there’s an unopen definition, yet.
April 13, 2016 @ 12:23 pm
I think there’s a pretty clear working definition for what “religious freedom” means, at this point:
The freedom to discriminate against anyone you think is icky.
April 12, 2016 @ 11:57 am
I won’t give my opinion on the laws since we have become a nation of people offended by everything, but I personally wish musicians and actors would stick to their art and leave their opinions at home. I hate when I go to an artists website or Facebook page and they start telling me what I should believe. It has soured me on several artists, and they have lost my business because of it.
Sure, we should judge them on their talent, but it’s hard to like the music of someone you don’t like.
April 12, 2016 @ 12:14 pm
I grew up listening to Bruce as my Dad was a big fan. He can do as he pleases. He just comes off as bratty and entitled. He fights what is in his mind discrimination by discriminating a whole state of people. I bought his last few records out of respect for him, although he hasn’t produced much decent music in 10-15 years or so in my mind.
Other artists may bash one political party or the other but they don’t take it out on the fans. I’m not angry, just more disappointed that he couldn’t get past all this and put on a good show like he committed too. I saw him in Houston in 14′, good show and definitely my last for Bruce. Thanks for the memories.
April 12, 2016 @ 12:28 pm
The NC bill in question took away the right’s of individuals to sue state courts for discrimination. Several businesses cancelled expansion plans in the state. The negative economic impact of those decisions along with the Springsteen cancellation likely impacted the governor’s recent decision to repeal parts of the law.
April 12, 2016 @ 12:32 pm
My question is, how much research have Springsteen, Adams, and others who may join this boycott done as to potentially discriminatory laws in general? If one were to do a thorough search, I’ll bet laws could be found on the books in every state that were discriminatory to some group of people in one way or another. And I’m not talking about obsolete laws or laws deemed unenforceable by court decisions, but active current laws.
Because short of a boycott of any and all venues that might legally discriminate against anyone, it appears that this is simply an attempt by these older artists to gain inroads with younger listeners who may be unfamiliar with their music.
Discrimination is discrimination. If you’re not against all of it, I have a hard time believing that you’re really against any of it.
April 12, 2016 @ 12:41 pm
Being a life-long resident of NC and using public restrooms for the better part of 25 years, I have yet to see a transgender removed from a restroom, much less threatened or physically assaulted by other restroom patrons. I’ve asked coworkers, friends, family if they have ever witnessed an altercation around this issue; the answers have all been, “no”. I do admit that I haven’t read the law so I hope there is more to it than using a restroom for gods sake. I’ve never witnessed “the problem” we are purposing a law to fix…..Maybe I’m just lucky but I’ve never seen a line of transgender folks urinating and defecating outside a public toilet because they don’t know which one is safe to use….They are more than welcome to have my stall; I like peeing outside anyway. That said, Bruce, you sold tickets…go play music for the folk that made you a wealthy musician. They cant just “take the day off” when things make them mad. The plumber that spent 400.00 to “not see you play” don’t have that luxury like you do….Blue Collar Hero.
April 18, 2016 @ 2:22 pm
Also life long North Carolinian never looked over to see what was there or not there in the restroom. I wonder if the show came close to selling out would the noble gentleman made the same choice? The 2 day notice thing sticks in my craw. Its open season on NC. We are still part of this country. What is our economic destruction going to accomplish? I live in the mountains I don’t care what they do. Wont break me, been growing the best weed around, and still puttin corn in a jar. Just don’t keep putting the foot on my throat and tell me I’m wrong for feeding my family. Life,Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.
April 12, 2016 @ 12:50 pm
I respect everyone’s right to boycott if they so choose or to not boycott even if they believe the laws to be discriminatory! My only problem with anyone who boycotts or threatens to boycotted that they don’t do their homework. Florida and Louisiana have similar laws already on the books but some of these artists are playing those states without issue. Some of them will even play in other countries that have horrible human rights records! And I have no doubt that any of these artists or companies will jump at the chance to get into Cuba when possible.
So, if you are going to protest or boycott, you need to go all the way or else your gesture just rings hollow!
April 12, 2016 @ 1:06 pm
If bruce springsteen bryan adams or anybody from the left does anything there just doing the right exersizing there rights standing up for what they feel is right!!! If Hank Jr. Charlie Daniels or Ted Nugent say anything there raceist bigot rightwing nutjobs
April 12, 2016 @ 1:08 pm
Follow the money !
April 12, 2016 @ 2:09 pm
Nashville’s creative community is filled with people who support gay rights (freedoms, I guess, is a better word) but they’re afraid to say anything because there’s an assumption they or their organization will offend the ignorant masses, or their not-so-welcoming contacts in the industry. The comments under this article’s Facebook post certainly add credibility to that assumption.
The GLAAD announcement — my guess — was intended to put those people’s feet to the fire, to say “we know you want to say something, so please do,” that this issue is important enough that they really should say something, but not to shame every single person in the industry into speaking up.
April 13, 2016 @ 11:47 am
“Don’t agree with me, you must be ignorant.”
That’s rich. Real original. Profound. Effective automatic response.
I really need start calling people ignorant more often that don’t agree with me.
Star Bucks is better than Coffee Bean? Not true. You must be ignorant.
April 14, 2016 @ 9:20 am
Ignorance is a lack of knowledge or information.
Equating transgender people with pedophiles is ignorant.
Changing the law to “protect children” by forcing a trans man (who presents as a male, with full beard and mustache, but does not have a penis) to only use the ladies room is ignorant.
This isn’t an issue of random man-on-the-street opinion. Pretending it’s the same thing as a debate over your preferred coffee brand is incredibly… well, you know.
April 12, 2016 @ 2:23 pm
Haven’t been able to read every comment on here, so not sure if there’s been mention. Just want to point out that among all those screwed-over fans there might also exist a large contingent that likewise supports Bruce’s action.
Bruce doesn’t need to garner attention of the younger listeners: they’re still making their way to his music. And he’s not opportunistic in his decrying of injustice: he’s frequently used his platform too as an ally against racism.
April 13, 2016 @ 11:35 am
Then when is he going to start cancelling shows in other states that have laws that discriminate against other groups of people?
April 12, 2016 @ 2:42 pm
Bruce can do whatever he wants, as can Brandi Carlile, Ted Nugent and The Dixie Chicks. But, for my money, incorporating discrimination into state law is unconstitutional and extremely short sighted. How can you expect no backlash? What did they expect?
April 12, 2016 @ 2:56 pm
Man, I just cannot keep track of all the things I’m supposed to boycott. If I did, I’d never buy another cup of coffee, eat at another restaurant, visit another amusement park, read another book, play another video game, visit another city, etc. I think that boycotts are completely silly. It’s like Southern Baptists calling for the boycott of Disney World years ago. How did that work?
I think the best thing Springstein could have done was played the concert and voiced his political views from the stage. He’s got a great place of influence at that point in time. But he’s free and he’s American and he can do what he wants, even disappoint his fans.
What we don’t want to do is pressure other artists to follow suit whether they are for or against these particular laws. America is so divisive now, and my hope is that music is one place we can all still come together.
April 12, 2016 @ 3:08 pm
Both Gregg Allman and Jimmy Buffett have come out today to say they will not be canceling upcoming concerts either.
http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/7333003/gregg-allman-lgbt-north-carolina-bathroom-law?utm_
April 12, 2016 @ 5:53 pm
Personally I don’t give a damn what any celebrity thinks politically. Not a single one of them has ever made me change my mind. Just because you have a louder mouthpiece it doesn’t make you right. It doesn’t make you wrong either. It just makes you loud and annoying.
April 12, 2016 @ 7:12 pm
What would Merle Haggard say about all of this bullshit?
Maybe the Dixie Chicks could give him some advice….shut the fuck up and play your music.
Music and politics (as well as actors and politics) do not mix. I refuse to watch “The Interview” because of the comments that Seth Rogen made. I cannot remember what he said to who, I just remember he pissed me off, so I refuse to give him any of my cash.
While I am a huge Hank Jr fan, and the media took what he said out of context, I see that he has learned to stay more towards the middle of the road, at least when giving interviews.
We are all fucked if things keep going the way they are going!!
April 12, 2016 @ 11:10 pm
He’s not asking you to give a shit what he thinks politically. He’s asking North Carolina to think about how much money they just cost Greensboro’s businesses by passing that law.
Just like DeutscheBank and PayPal are asking North Carolina to think about the hundreds of jobs they just cost North Carolina’s citizens by passing that law.
Stupid shit like this has real economic consequences for states. That’s why Purdue vetoed the “religious freedom” bill in GA, which puts Atlanta in position to steal the 2017 NBA All-Star game from Charlotte if NC doesn’t get its head out of its ass.
And, of course, none of this applies to minor artists like the ones Trigger mentions above, which is why anyone complaining about their “breaking the boycott” is being silly.
April 13, 2016 @ 5:41 am
Yes……I know he is not asking me to give a shit. He is not asking North Carolina to think about anything…he is saying that music should be left out of the equation.
So now it is the legislature’s fault that business is lost for passing a law that their constituents want in their state? I bet if a poll of North Carolina residents was taken, the majority would side with their legislature on this law. That does not matter though…..we are being led to believe that if we agree with the law we are in the minority…… which is not true!!!
I agree with Moreb (see below). Bruce has every right under the constitution to voice his opinion. But I have every right to not buy his music. I have never bought one of his before….and never will. Hank Jr. is probably my favorite artist, but if he came and said he supported something I am against, than I would no longer support him. Does not mean I would not listen to what I have already purchased, but I would “vote” with my money.
I refuse to act like a mindless fucking sheep being led to slaughter!!!!!
So Trigger…..hope I didn’t step over the line. It is not our place, unless we live in North Carolina, to decide the merits of the law…..that is a states’ right issue!!! So if you are not from North Carolina (yeah I am talking to you Bruce)….than shut the fuck up and let North Carolina deal with the issues in their state.
April 13, 2016 @ 6:51 am
So now it is the legislature”™s fault that business is lost for passing a law that their constituents want in their state?
The NC law was a reaction to a LGBT ant-discrimination ordinance enacted in the city of Charlotte, which is the largest city in NC. It is also forbid any other jurisdictions in NC from enacting such a rule in the future. It was rammed through by Republican state lawmakers in an emergency session.
April 13, 2016 @ 11:17 am
I’m also just incredibly confused by the question.
“Is it the government of North Carolina’s fault that the way they’ve governed North Carolina has significantly harmed the people of North Carolina’s financial interests?”
Yes! Yes, it is their fault. Who else’s fault could it possibly be?!
April 13, 2016 @ 8:51 am
I would agree it’s up to the states, but Mississippi also passed a law, Georgia tried to pass a law, and Tennessee is currently discussing one. And since this is all happening right at the heart of the home of country music, it starts to become an issue far beyond individual states, especially if the music industry and musicians are being asked to boycott, or being threatened with one.
April 13, 2016 @ 11:20 am
Well, have fun never listening to Jason Isbell, Justin Townes or Steve Earle, Drive By Truckers, or The Dixie Chicks!
I’ll be too busy enjoying their music, as well as that of Toby Keith and Hank Jr., to remember to be self-righteous.
April 13, 2016 @ 4:05 pm
Patterson Hood has specifically said that DBT will not be boycotting any states. They’re a “work from within” kind of band as well. Their lyrics certainly make it clear where they’re coming from on most political issues.
April 12, 2016 @ 9:18 pm
So punish your fans because state legislature
April 12, 2016 @ 9:53 pm
I’ve sort of taken up a reverse boycott. Those corporations and musicians that boycott states for reinforcing religious liberty and defending their residents’ rights will no longer receive my business.
Of course, we’re talking about Bruce Springsteen, Disney, the NFL, and (I believe) the NCAA, along with possibly some tech companies. These aren’t exactly entities that I’ve ever personally financially supported.
April 13, 2016 @ 4:33 am
The minute an artist dips into politics outside of the lyrics to his/her songs, I tune out. I don’t like having to listen to Aunt Mary editorialize over Thanksgiving turkey but she’s family. Bruce Springsteen isn’t family.
April 13, 2016 @ 8:50 pm
Well stated Craig.
I think one artist who does a great job of keeping her mouth shut when it comes to politics is Taylor Swift. If only others could understand this simple concept. As musicians, it is their job to sing and play their instruments. If they want to be in politics they should get out of the music business and run for office….otherwise SHUT UP AND SING!! I listen to music to escape from this f**king bullshit that our country is going through!
“Swift has maintained her ever growing popularity by doing something which most celebrities can”™t seem to accomplish ”“ she stays away from the topics of religion and politics. Shrewd for her age, the songstress realizes that by speaking out on either one of these platforms, she will inevitably offend somebody. She even encouraged her fans not to discuss religion or politics on her website.”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/16/taylor-swift-staunch-conservative-or-raging-liberal.html
https://www.mrconservative.com/2014/09/49929-taylor-swifts-religion-political-views-exposed/
April 13, 2016 @ 6:03 am
Guess it’s time to visit NC and beat the crowds!!!
April 13, 2016 @ 6:36 am
Music has always walked hand in hand with the political: the illusion is that theirs are separate orbits. Claims of political neutrality are themselves political stances.
As for the history: Woody Guthrie, Phil Ochs, Iris DeMent, Johnny Cash, Paul Robeson, Nina Simone, Dead Kennedys, Fela Kuti, and on and on and on. Even Willie has made electoral endorsements.
April 13, 2016 @ 8:46 am
No doubt political and creative expression has always gone hand in hand. But it’s still nice to have boundaries, for example not getting shouted down as a closed-minded fascist just because you’re a musician who had some dates in North Carolina on your calendar before any of this political boycott stuff came up, and canceling them could mean not making rent next month.
April 13, 2016 @ 11:12 am
I certainly appreciate that, especially for many of the reasons that have been stated above (e.g. when talking about the livelihood of artists who depend on those gigs). I’m not one to demand every artist occupy an overtly political position, far from it actually.
That being said, claiming an apolitical position is always itself enmeshed within frameworks of power (ie politics). My point wasn’t to criticize artists who elect not to participate in political action, but to counter arguments that there is some “pure art” that is somehow debased when a singer does engage politically.
April 13, 2016 @ 11:22 am
…has that happened, though?
April 13, 2016 @ 12:44 pm
Rhiannon Giddens, Brandi Carlile, and others felt the need to come out publicly and explain why they have decided to play their North Carolina dates, while GLAAD’s statement in Nashville certainly smacks of implied retribution if musicians and the industry don’t oppose the law.
April 13, 2016 @ 5:50 pm
In terms of this North Carolina law, it should be up to the musicians themselves, that they do what is right for them, and not to feel pressured by any special interest group. It seems to me that Rhiannon Giddens, Brandi Carlile, and others who do perform in the state in the wake of this law see themselves as standing in solidarity with the LGBT community, to let them know they’re not alone. Springsteen is doing what he feels his right for himself (and besides, his political activism is a given). Neither side is wrong, and nobody should feel the pressure from the outside to do something they don’t feel is right–especially not when it comes to this anti-LGBT law, or any of the others that are already out there or that may come after it.
April 13, 2016 @ 11:58 am
Obviously Bruce Springsteen is ignorant because I don’t agree with him. Tadaa.
If he wants to be a dick to his fans in those states, that’s on him.
April 13, 2016 @ 3:09 pm
Bruce is not to blame here – the legislators are. He has every right to cancel his shows when he wishes and I’m sure there’s a nice, tidy clause in his contracts that says so. He is the artist he is because he’s always had the balls to stick to his beliefs. The Tougher Than the Rest video was groundbreaking in its day and it’s sad that the same issues he was addressing in that video that caused some backlash in the late 80s are still issues today, ie the right of same-sex couples to live freely.
April 14, 2016 @ 9:03 am
And also covered by legendary cowboy-rocker, Chris LeDoux (RIP). Which seems funny when you consider who his stereotypical fan base was/is.
April 13, 2016 @ 5:24 pm
The only people who get punished here are the fans. It’s not like the fans passed this law, but they’re the ones punished for it. It’s the same thing when these large companies threaten to leave the state – you aren’t punishing the lawmakers, you are punishing the workers trying to make ends meet.
You have the right boycott a state, but you aren’t going to punish those politicians – they have opportunities lined up everywhere. If a politician loses an election, chances are he has a law firm or business ready to hire him. The only thing you will do is punish the average man working at the corporation, who will lose his job because some millionaire fat cat wants to show off his moral superiority to the world.
Sad state of affairs when everything has to be politicized. It’s probably only going to get worse as people become more and more dogmatic.
April 14, 2016 @ 5:16 am
This isn’t about dogmatism or even politics, although the legislators would have you believe that. This is about basic human freedoms that every citizen in this country should have the same right to and that is what Bruce is fighting for. What is sad is that people will somehow twist this as a reason to get mad at Bruce Springsteen when your ire should be directed solely at the legislators responsible. The legislators are the ones punishing the average working man, not Bruce Springsteen. He is trying to make the situation better (albeit at the expense of a concert). One concert is worth the price of getting exposure for corruption and evil. And losing elected positions is EXACTLY what needs to happen to these politicians.
Take the ire you have for Bruce right now and redirect it to the right enemy. Write your congressman a letter with the same sentiments you wrote above but maybe change some of the wording to reflect that it is your congressman you are unhappy with. Bruce made this decision to spur change.
April 18, 2016 @ 1:59 pm
Are you going to be responsible for everything that comes out of Washington DC? If he’s making it better that depends on what you do to feed your family I guess.
April 13, 2016 @ 6:00 pm
I’ll just leave this here: http://chronicle.augusta.com/stories/2003/02/28/app_377172.shtml#.Vw7rZMj3anN
April 14, 2016 @ 5:06 am
Trig, it seems that the underlying industries are the parties who are participating in the boycott.
They aren’t victims of it.
Shouldn’t your article be directed to them, and not in support of them?
Perhaps I am missing something in the article.
I don’t know what these laws purport to do.
I have had gay friends my entire life, and I don’t care whether I piss next to a tranny.
I don’t care whether Big Mudic leaves Nasville, though, as long as the indie scene stays.
Nor would I care whether the NFL yanked the Tn Titans.
Pro football is like watching paint dry to me.
April 14, 2016 @ 6:52 am
The goal of this boycott, in my opinion, is to bring awareness to a seriously messed up law. Small artists so not possess a large enough audience to be heard in the same way that Bruce Springsteen or other large artists can. Therefore, I fully support Brush Springsteen and all big names to boycott as this brings awareness, and hopefully, a retraction of a ill conceived law.
April 14, 2016 @ 7:57 am
Interestingly, other artists are performing in NC in support of the LGBTQ community. Louis CK just announced a show there, as did Laura Jane Grace. If I remember, Cyndi Lauper said she’d play there in support.
April 14, 2016 @ 10:43 am
This will blow over. I provisioned it. Majority of the people in that state are not going to succumb to the lunacy of men wearing wigs allowed into women”™s bathroom because they “feel like a woman” -Shania Twain
All this is just certain segments of corporate America trying to gain some points in the area of public relations. They don”™t really care. It”™s just the hip and trendy thing to do = $$$. Sorta like calling yourself a country artist but all you play is pop.
Our daughters have the right to feel safe and secure entering the women”™s bathrooms. I mean it is for women after all. Maybe add gender neutral bathrooms?
April 14, 2016 @ 2:46 pm
“Our daughters have the right to feel safe and secure entering the women”™s bathrooms.”
That’s pretty much how I feel, although I’m more concerned about locker rooms than bathrooms. My daughter is rapidly approaching the age where she will be required to change clothes for gym class, and I’m really not okay with the idea that she might have to be exposed to some biological male walking through the locker room with his junk hanging out.
April 14, 2016 @ 4:07 pm
These comments are starting to veer off-topic from the original post, but in response to some of the misinformation above:
1. A transgender individual is probably going to have the “junk” of the sex they are transitioning to. Transgender is not the same as cross dressing.
2. Just because someone is transgender does not mean they are automatically attracted to every stranger they come across in a public bathroom, let alone intent on harming others. Transgender does not equate to sexual predator.
3. There is no law that will keep people 100% safe from true sexual predators. And I’m gonna go ahead and bet that the more likely threat isn’t the guy who has started taking estrogen and had his “junk” converted, but rather the straight male who will find his way into a women’s restroom or other vulnerable environment, law or no.
April 15, 2016 @ 9:07 am
In response to some of the misinformation in the above post:
1. You are correct that transgender people aren’t simply cross-dressers. But most trans people also don’t opt for genital surgery due to the cost, concerns about the surgery, or the fact that their sexual orientation doesn’t align with their gender identity, making the surgery pointless. And I’m specifically talking about junior high and high school locker rooms, so it’s unlikely that any trans people involved would have had any surgery anyway.
2. I’m not talking about the behavior or intent of the trans person, I’m talking about 13-year-old girls being placed in a position where they are exposed to male genitalia against their will. The fact that the owner of the genitalia is engaged is such innocuous behavior as changing clothes or showering is beside the point. Exposure of this sort would be illegal on a public street, why is it acceptable in the locker room of a public school?
3. This misses my point so completely that I’m not going to comment, other than to say that I generally agree with what you’re saying.
To tie this back to the original topic I will make the point that I intended to make yesterday before I ran out of time. I can accept somebody having a different point of view than mine. For the most part our views are shaped by our experiences, and I’m not going to judge somebody just because he or she hasn’t lived my life. When someone who disagrees with me doesn’t show the same tolerance for my point of view I can’t take them seriously. And that’s where I stand with Springsteen, Adams, and those calling for others to boycott.
April 17, 2016 @ 1:40 pm
Billy Joe Shaver is still coming to North Carolina……. All is well !!!!!!
April 18, 2016 @ 1:46 pm
When Bruce booked the show the laws were the same. He said he felt he needed to stay with the freedom fighters. I bet that never occurred to the civil rights activist, that if they just hung out over in the corner things would get done. He cancelled 2 days before the show… nice…The people of NC didn’t all say lets screw with the bathrooms. Political plain and simple. The people of NC are citizens of the United States of America. To try to punish the people that had nothing to do with this is asinine. With the money taken from the people tryin to scratch out a living whats proven? Who knew this was even a thing a couple months ago? Now people just bashing people who had nothing to do with this at all. XHamster porn site wont even let the people of NC enjoy there porn. Bryan Adams is concerned because he was a plumber in 69 so he has a right to worry bout bathrooms. I don’t care where or if you piss or shit. Does that really define someone, that’s kinda strange to me. How much time do people spend in public restrooms? I say everyone gets a bucket lets get it all out in the open. Thanks Bruce we workin class need heroes like you. You taught me I wont be passin anymore laws you can bet on that. I’ve learned my lesson. Now Bostons not coming either so we got that goin for us.
April 18, 2016 @ 1:54 pm
My problem is this, If I have my Granddaughter who is 5 years old and she needs to use the restroom,as I stand outside waiting, a man can walk past me in the room where my Granddaughter is?? Doesn’t seem right.
April 19, 2016 @ 7:44 am
Hey Bruce, isn’t it awesome to be able to refuse to perform a service somewhere because you disagree with their beliefs?
April 19, 2016 @ 8:19 am
With a little editing, you can probably fit that on a bumper sticker.