‘Lorrie’ from Turnpike Troubadours Songs Presumably Reveals Herself

WARNING: Language.
If you know the Turnpike Troubadours, then you know Lorrie. You may have never met her, not be sure if she’s real or just a figment of songwriter and frontman Evan Felker’s imagination. But she looms large in the Turnpike Troubadours universe with numerous songs referring to her by name, and others seeming to allude to her. Some wonder if most all of Felker’s songs tie back to Lorrie in some capacity.
Lorrie was first and most obviously introduced into the world of the Turnpike Troubadours through the song “Good Lord Lorrie” released on the band’s album Goodbye Normal Street in 2012. The song about a relationship gone bad has since become one of Turnpike’s most popular songs. Another reference to Lorrie comes in the song “The Mercury” from the band’s 2015 self-titled album.
Lorrie laughs like she just don’t care
Got a red bandana and raven hair
The other obvious Lorrie reference is in the song “The Housefire” from Turnpike’s 2017 album A Long Way From Your Heart.
Well Lorrie called the volunteers
Siren music to my ears
For the record, Lorrie is not the only recurring character in the Turnpike Troubadours saga. There’s also Jimmy, who appears directly in the songs “The Funeral” and “The Mercury.” There is also a Browning Auto 5 shotgun that appears in both “The Bird Hunters” and “The Housefire.”
This all comes from the mind of Evan Felker who has proven over the years to be one of our generation’s most thoughtful and industrious songwriters, along with in certain seasons of his life, a troubled soul.
Trying to find references to Lorrie in Turnpike Troubadours songs can be a fun enterprise. Figuring out if Lorrie is an actual person or not may have just solved itself. On Sunday, February 4th, a songwriter, graphic and cover art designer, and leatherworker named Ali Harter-Street stepped forward to claim that she is in fact Lorrie.
The fact that Ali Harter is credited for the artwork on Turnpike’s landmark 2010 album Diamonds & Gasoline and has other direct tie-ins to Turnpike seem to infer that she may not be lying.
Her missive from the “Pigsflyshop” Instagram page was not a sweet note about being the muse of Turnpike Troubadours songs. It was a rather scathing rebuke about being singled out and used through Turnpike’s tracks for a protracted and painful period. Her note reads in full:
Being Lorrie is the last thing I ever thought I’d be.
Hearing my life sung through the speakers at Walmart while I’m buying fuckin’ toilet paper is the most demeaning and cruel joke I could have ever imagined I’d have played on me.
All the songs about me are gross, and one sided. They are unfair. I’m glorified, then ripped to shreds. Speculated about, blamed, used when needed. I’m an excuse for addiction, but never have I ever been a step in recovery. Zero amends. It takes two, dude.
My biggest regrets and traumas, OUR personal things… have been put on display and exploited for “art”, and a dime.
You are fuckin’ WELCOME for your hits. And the free artwork for Diamonds & Gasoline.
I tried to kill you and the space you took up in my life with this song I wrote… I know you’ve heard it. And you still won’t shut the fuck up. Just… Shut. Up.”
Also. The, “Cat In The Rain”, artwork is a direct fuckin’ rip off of the graphic design that I did for Jake Flint in 2020. Patches designed and photoshopped on fabric? Come the f*ck on. Jake did it first.Do not even get me started on what you have knowingly “borrowed” from our music community with zero credit.
As part of the Instagram post, Ali Harter linked to her song “Griever Creek” released on her 2020 album Near The Knuckle.
If Ali Harter never got paid for the Diamonds & Gasoline cover, that seems like something that could and should be resolved. The Turnpike Troubadours could throw her some bones, and solve that particular issue rather easily. For those that don’t know, Jake Flint was an Oklahoma songwriter who passed away on his wedding day. Is the patch-like artwork that has complimented the release of A Cat in the Rain a direct ripoff of Mr. Flint? That’s hard to determine, but the audience can decide for themselves.
The bigger issue that Ali Harter brings up is one about art and muse that has been around since the beginning of time. Songwriters are generally given the latitude as creators to pull inspiration from wherever they find it, and utilize it to their advantage. How many aggrieved boyfriends of Taylor Swift have been the foil or outright villain of Taylor Swift songs? Of course, if you’re Harry Styles or John Mayer, maybe you’re better situated to take the heat.
In previous eras, muses for songs or other art might be paid for their services to the artist. This is a bit of an arcane practice, and this situation is less about Evan Felker’s gaze as it is about his personal experiences with Ali Harter. Some women might be flattered or honored to be the subject of a song, or referenced in one, or the inspiration behind it. At the same time, it’s difficult to impossible for any of us to put ourselves in Ali Harter’s shoes and understand the range of emotions she’s had to experience as people belt out “Good Lord Lorrie” at arena shows.
But perhaps the ultimate question here is how Lorrie is perceived within the Turnpike Troubadours universe. Is she a villain? Does she feel “used” in some sort of demeaning capacity? Is her morals or character called into question? It’s hard to come to those conclusions in any sort of hard manner listening through the songs. Instead, it feels like Lorrie is more like a fulcrum for the stories to revolve around as opposed to a foil or a villain.
On the Turnpike Troubadours’ most recent album A Cat in the Rain from 2023, there were no references to Lorrie, and Evan Felker seemed to confirm this in interviews. There might be a reference to another singer in the title track, though strangely, nobody seems to want to talk about that.
For the record, Saving Country Music reached out to Ali Harter to see if she wanted to speak more in-depth about her experiences, or clarify her statements as opposed to just taking some posts on social media and publishing them verbatim. She declined, but did request our correspondence be screenshot and included in any article, so that will be done below. Ali also published a followup to her original post, which also can be read below.
It appears that much of the mystery and questions surrounding Turnpike’s Lorrie have been solved, even if the bitterness Ali Harter feels over the situation remains. The best music reflects life in all of its messiness. Ali Harter may not find any solace in that, but many have found solace and joy in the music of the Turnpike Troubadours, and specifically in the songs where Lorrie makes an appearance. And it feels like it would be a shame if she never appeared.
Saving Country Music’s correspondence with Ali Harter, posted upon her request:



Followup Note from Ali Harter:
Family and close mutual friends have given me some advice throughout the day. Everything from, “take it down,” to “you should clarify,” to “respond to comments and defend yourself.” I love and respect every single one of you. And I love that I know y’all are coming from a place of knowing and protection. I also love and respect that when I explained my intentions and we recapped the last 15ish years, the conversations shifted to complete support and, “I was actually what took you so damn long.”
Am I grieving multiple family members deaths right now? Yes. Am I under a massive amount of stress that has nothing to do with fucking comical situation? Yes. Did I snap when I heard a familiar song in the Walmart toilet paper isle and chose to break my sobriety and shoot my mouth off on the internet. You betcha.’ But here’s the deal … This was a long time coming. Never have I EVER, shied away from my fucked up choices. And I have never backed down from something that I know isn’t right. Or fair. And I am not about to start today.
I have had over 15 years to doxx this entire fucking situation and benefit from it, and that’s not what I have ever wanted. Believe me, I waited for it to go away. But it didn’t.
I played my music and I traveled and I loved every second of it. I left the party early when my childeren became my priority. I have ZERO regrets about that. It’s their time. I am not promoting anything, I do not want anything. I just wanted to make my intentions crystal fucking clear. And I did that. Additionally, I guaran-fucking-tee you that I am not the only woman out there that wants peace, and wishes this story line ended a long goddamed time ago. I am wholeheartedly sorry for my part in all of this.
Fame is a construct. I am not impressed by it, I am not afraid of it. There is no honor in gaining fame at literally everyone around you’s expense. I don’t care what people say about me or think they know. Let ’em drag me. I’m used to it. There isn’t anything anyone could say that would make me regret the weight I decided to take off my own shoulders today.
I don’t want to hurt anyone. But I also don’t deserve to be hurt anymore either. Maybe it wasn’t intentional … Writers gonna write. You do you. You were there and you are entitled to your emotions. But what you DON’T get to do is go through what we went through, sit and listen to me apologize and make amends, say it’s ok, and then decide to treat me like shit, say I never want to see or hear from you again … and then drag my trauma across the fucking radio. Album … after fucking album. You can’t have it both ways. There is no honor in that.
People keep saying, “No one would have known if you didn’t say anything.” Motherfucker. I know. And that’s enough.
There will be no receipts. There will be no more convos about this from me. This isn’t a war. I don’t need or want anything. If I am going to ask someone to shut the fuck up, I plan on doing the same.
Only things I regret are my typos and the use of hashtags. Cringe. Don’t drink and internet, kids. I said what I said, and that’s all I have to say. Oh, except … Of course it’s the FFA logo, that was the fucking point. And it’s badass. Thanks.
February 7, 2024 @ 12:34 pm
Quick heads up:
A new Saving Country Music roundup podcast has just been published focusing on the death of Toby Keith. It can be heard on Spotify below, or most anywhere you stream podcasts.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/2HoqAnO2d3C2llriwQtQRM?si=bfbaf2f32dc3442b
February 11, 2024 @ 11:24 am
I want to find theWalmart that plays Turnpike.
February 12, 2024 @ 5:44 am
It’s the one that has only one open checkout and a dozen u-scans.
February 7, 2024 @ 12:44 pm
As an English teacher, the profanity and grammar of these posts makes me more upset than anything else. Good Lord Lorrie, run it through Grammarly.
February 8, 2024 @ 4:41 pm
Do you ever comment on Trig’s grammar though? Hahaha. I love the man but he cannot help himself from putting an apostrophe on everything (e.x. the 90’s instead of the ’90s which is the correct way, the 2000’s instead of the 2000s which would be correct).
February 7, 2024 @ 12:46 pm
she’s way too annoying to be Lorrie
February 7, 2024 @ 1:00 pm
I want to know what Walmart she shops at that plays Turnpike.
February 7, 2024 @ 1:00 pm
I thought Lorrie always came off likable, not that my opinion really matters
February 7, 2024 @ 8:33 pm
Agree. She’s really cool in Every Girl. Evan is the “bad guy” in many songs, like 7&7. Hope this woman gets the help she needs.
February 7, 2024 @ 11:50 pm
Every Girl isn’t about Lorrie. 🙂
February 8, 2024 @ 5:56 am
“Every Girl” isn’t about Lorrie. It is about Evan’s sister.
February 7, 2024 @ 1:04 pm
Hoooo boy.
Not touching this one lol.
She seems nice. Good luck with that, Evan!
February 7, 2024 @ 1:06 pm
Good article.
The artwork similarities definitely raised an eyebrow, but for all we know maybe it’s a subtle tribute?
I don’t get what Lorrie was going for here. If these songs really are about her, wouldn’t she know that even if Evan used a different name or no name at all? Therefore, she would still be personally traumatized by the songs at Walmart.
Apparently, no one should ever write any songs, as they are all drawn from life experiences and could impact those involved with those experiences.
February 7, 2024 @ 1:13 pm
The problem with the CITR artwork thing is “patch on rugged fabric” is kind of a genre of its own for country album covers. Beyond these two, Copperhead Road and American Aquarium’s first 90s cover album spring to mind.
February 7, 2024 @ 1:29 pm
Yeah, I took the “Cat in the Rain” artwork to be a call back to “Copperhead Road.” I respect this woman’s right to bring grievances, including not being paid for the “Diamonds & Gasoline” cover if she in fact wasn’t or didn’t volunteer it. But I’m not sure anyone has ownership over using patchwork in cover art.
February 7, 2024 @ 2:44 pm
Maybe she’s addressed this somewhere, but her patch design is derivative of the FFA emblem.
February 7, 2024 @ 2:58 pm
Yes, in the second note from her, which is the bottom element in the article, she addresses the similarity between the FFA patch.
February 7, 2024 @ 1:10 pm
Good lord Ali
February 7, 2024 @ 1:11 pm
Attention seeker.
***!!!LOOK AT ME!!!LOOK AT ME!!!!*** TURNPIKE TROUBADOURS ARE FAMOUS NOW, I WANT IN ON THEIR FAME!!
If she knew these songs were about her, she should have come forward before the fame.
Stop riding coattails and go back to your mediocre life.
February 7, 2024 @ 1:31 pm
I think it’s all important we try to put ourselves in this woman’s shoes. You or I may have not handled this situation in the same manner. But it can’t be easy being the primary subject of numerous songs after a bad relationship.
February 8, 2024 @ 6:49 am
People change, as do their feelings and opinions about how things are looked at in their past.
Not at all the same scale, but I was in a punk band that used a photo of a pretty 20 year old girl who exited our mosh pit in a bikini and blood pouring out of her nose. She looks positively joyful and we used the photo in album art and posters. It became a bit “iconic” for our small city, even being used without our permission.
More than 10 years on, the girl doesn’t really want to be associated with the photo any more. She gets annoyed when people on social media recognize her from the album or poster art. She has kids, works in a school, I get it. She has definitely expressed regret about letting us use the photo, even though at the time, she did enjoy it.
Had we known, we probably wouldn’t have wanted to put someone we considered a friend and fan through that, but that’s hindsight I guess.
February 7, 2024 @ 1:31 pm
“You’re welcome for the free artwork for Diamonds and Gasoline”
It’s a photograph of a broken house with a sepia filter lol
February 7, 2024 @ 1:44 pm
I’d be lying if I said I really understood photography as art, but I respect it.
By this logic, you could just steal anyone’s art for personal financial gain because it’s “just a painting of a field” or “some little melody with a few rhymes”.
February 7, 2024 @ 2:49 pm
That’s not really what I was saying, I’m in favor of intellectual property protection. People should be compensated for their unique artistic work.
My criticism is that it is a very low-effort and low quality work that would have been easy to substitute with a cheap Instagram filter slapped on a picture of another unassuming object, we aren’t talking about the Mona Lisa. This woman knew Felker and likely made it for them as a favor back in the day, a nice thing to do, but now is upset she was not compensated because they are famous. D&G and Goodbye Normal Street both have terrible album art, but I’m sure Turnpike was not expecting millions of people to see it when they were a tiny band in Oklahoma.
February 7, 2024 @ 3:03 pm
I would argue that those two albums have amazing album art. I have no background in art or photography but those pictures absolutely have a vibe and my brain attaches those pictures to the vibe of their albums very vividly.
February 7, 2024 @ 2:15 pm
Not sure if the cover picture is hers? But the Bluebonnet bar claims that the deer head picture on the cd was taken by her at the bar…
February 7, 2024 @ 1:33 pm
Obviously, if the artwork was stolen, that should be redressed. Otherwise, the “You’re So Vain” jokes really just write themselves on this one.
February 7, 2024 @ 1:47 pm
Trigger!!! You buried the lede!!! THEY WERE PLAYING TURNPIKE TROUBADOURS AT A WALMARKS!!!
February 7, 2024 @ 1:51 pm
This makes no sense though, I have doubts. In “The Mercury” Evan very clearly sings about her laughing like she just don’t care, but I have trouble believing this broad’s ever laughed at much of anything.
February 8, 2024 @ 8:21 am
She was probably laughing while she was still the life of the party, but now its all come crashing down… Just a guess.
February 9, 2024 @ 11:21 am
Calling her a broad tells me everything I need to know about you.
February 7, 2024 @ 1:53 pm
Good Lord Lorrie, your grammar, could it go more wrong?
February 7, 2024 @ 1:57 pm
Sounds like someone sold her pills to go to Bossier City. Unfortunately, she gets a little crazy without them.
February 7, 2024 @ 2:01 pm
I don’t know about the Lorrie stuff, but the “Cat in the Rain” album cover looks nothing like the album cover she says it was stolen from (which she stole from the FFA logo…)
February 7, 2024 @ 2:14 pm
Ali is absolutely legit. Every Oklahoma singer songwriter knows this. She is a great player, writer, artist in her own right.
February 7, 2024 @ 3:11 pm
I went and listened to her song that Trigger linked. It sounded great to me…
February 9, 2024 @ 11:22 am
100%.
February 7, 2024 @ 2:37 pm
Cowboy Killers ✅️
Raven Hair ✅️
Sleeve Tattoo ✅️
Got a couple problems now ✅️
Doesn’t keep em hid ✅️
This story checks out.
February 7, 2024 @ 2:44 pm
This is merely an observation and not a value judgement: Turnpike seems to have more drama surrounding them than most other bands.
February 14, 2024 @ 8:29 am
A lot of songs are made about break ups and women do them the most, why is she mad?
February 7, 2024 @ 2:47 pm
I don’t know, man. She’s dealing with a lot of unrelated shit it would seem and hearing that song made something snap. Misdirected fire I’m thinking. I hope she’s gonna be ok, seems like she’s going through some hard stuff.
February 7, 2024 @ 2:49 pm
If Felker doesn’t change the name, he’s being disrespectful and seeking a confrontation.
February 7, 2024 @ 3:43 pm
That would set a dangerous and quite frankly, very silly precedent
February 7, 2024 @ 4:47 pm
Set a precedent? It’s standard operating procedure:
Jolene wasn’t the real name of the redheaded bank teller that had a crush on Dolly’s husband
Bobbie McGee’s real identity is Barbara McKee
There’s no Elvira (it was a street name)
Fancy was based off of Bobbie Gentry’s real life
February 7, 2024 @ 5:06 pm
“Dear John” was about John Mayer. But that was the exception, not the rule. What if Eric Clapton had named Layla after George Harrison’s wife?
On a similar note, I don’t think it is fair to ask songwriters who a song is about, especially in the case of a love interest. So no, I will not be checking with Evan Felker to fact check all of this, nor would he be likely to tell me.
February 7, 2024 @ 5:09 pm
Maybe I misunderstood what you were advocating for then because her name is Ali, and the character in the songs she claims is based on her is Lorrie. So hasn’t he already followed the procedure you just laid out?
February 7, 2024 @ 5:29 pm
Yes. I’m sorry. My fault. I have a head/ chest cold and I didn’t catch her real name is Ali although it’s in the article 100x. Ali/ Lorrie. I’m taking some NyQuil and going to bed with my humidifier.
February 7, 2024 @ 5:14 pm
Wait … her real name is Ali?! I read this article twice and didn’t catch that her real name is Ali! In that case, nevermind. TT changed her name. I don’t get this issue.
February 7, 2024 @ 7:28 pm
And now she has outed herself publicly as “Lorrie”. Not sure how that helps her with the issues she has in being the inspiration for that. I would think it would make things worse. Unless while denying it she really is looking for something.
Looking at her instagram she is talented in her own craft.
February 8, 2024 @ 11:07 am
You feeling any better today?
Hope so
February 7, 2024 @ 2:49 pm
“On the Turnpike Troubadours’ most recent album A Cat in the Rain from 2023…. There might be a reference to another singer in the title track, though strangely, nobody seems to want to talk about that.”
Can we talk about it? I’m not skilled at reading between the lines but it sounds like Miranda Lambert to me.
February 7, 2024 @ 3:02 pm
A lot of AA speak in those posts. In my experience, AA either attracts some angry people or brings out anger. Not sure if that applies here and I hope she feels better.
February 7, 2024 @ 3:26 pm
Repetitive, horrible language coming out of her filthy mouth, now circulating on the internet for infinity. Her grandkids will be able to read it someday.
February 7, 2024 @ 3:29 pm
1. Using past emotional experiences, ex’s, and people in the past has been the fodder of songwriters since the dawn of time. Its not novel, its downright ordinary. Taylor Swift makes a pretty good living at songs about real people & real events/conflicts.
2. Over 15 years and 4 or 5 album’s, “Lorrie” has appeared in reference but the references are not consistent and do nothing to infer they are based upon the continuity of a real person. The only evidence of this is Ms. Harter’s word. And maybe its true but so what? No law against it.
3. There is nothing remotely similar about A Cat in the Rain vs. “The Cat T-shirt” other than the use of a black cat. Whereas Ms. Harter’s patchwork was a direct rip off (of her own admission I’ll add) of the FFA patch where ALL elements were similar except the use of a guitar instead of a plow.
Sounds like someone who is working through a lot psychologically and picked up the computer on a bender. I struggle at the end game of making what appears to be a (very) old personal issue a very public one.
February 7, 2024 @ 4:16 pm
If she is truely suffering from hearing Turnpike songs that mention “Lorrie,” I hope she can find solace. I’m struggling to understand how publicly ranting about this on the internet will provide lasting peace for her.
February 7, 2024 @ 4:30 pm
The TT Reddit, generally dull, lit up after Ali posted her scathing complaint.
I never saw Lorrie as a positive or negative character. Some of her portrayals, IMO, are retroactively made to fit a narrative, e.g. the Lorrie in “The Funeral” doesn’t fit the timeline. She does skip around on Jimmy in “The Mercury” and leaves the narrator of “The Housefire” behind. She may be the girl in “The Bird Hunters.” She is also described as attractive and desirable.
As for Ali’s complaints, she appears as unhinged and jealous. Listen, dating artistic people means you will either become a muse (Beatrice or Laura) or the devil (any one of Swift’s ex-boyfriends).
It must sting to know Turnpike broke through nationally while her career is limited to Oklahoma. Maybe Felker wasn’t the nicest. Alcoholic Felker certainly was a cad but posting a raging declaration at 3 a.m. isn’t a salient move.
February 7, 2024 @ 6:22 pm
I don’t think she’s the same protagonist beyond Goodbye Normal Street. Though Gin, Smoke, & Lies doesn’t mention a name, I can see how hearing that could be upsetting. Knowing it’s about you. More so than any of the songs that mention Lori.
If you went back to 2009, Ali’s career was looking way more promising than Evan’s. He even played dobro on her “No bee’s, no honey” album. Though I don’t think jealousy is an issue here. Artist make art, whether or not there’s a spotlight on them. I think it just a very public reminder of a failed relationship, which in itself stings.
February 8, 2024 @ 7:34 am
She leaves the narrator of The Housefire (The Bird Hunter) behind? I didn’t get that.
February 7, 2024 @ 5:10 pm
“You are fuckin’ WELCOME for your hits.”
The best and most telling part.
February 7, 2024 @ 5:38 pm
Lorrie, the Auto 5, and recurring themes like hunting and traveling is one of the things I love about Turnpike Troubadors. Something familiar is sucha big part of the comfort food that is country music. I thought Lorrie was in more songs than this but I guess that was just my assumption.
I feel bad for the girl now, but dang the comments crack me up!
February 8, 2024 @ 12:15 am
She is.
February 7, 2024 @ 6:18 pm
Who’s the other singer mentioned in the title track?
February 7, 2024 @ 7:08 pm
The Lorrie I see in my head when listening to TT is WAY hotter than the “real” Lorrie. Just sayin.
February 7, 2024 @ 7:08 pm
“But now that I think about it, that don’t say much of anything” was always kind of a dick line
February 7, 2024 @ 11:59 pm
The line is “HE don’t say much of anything.”
April 15, 2025 @ 6:46 am
The whole verse is:
“And any way I play it well I can’t get him to say it
But I think that him and Lorrie were a thing
Well come now that I think about it
He don’t say much of anything”
It’s not a dick line lol, the guy just doesn’t talk much.
February 7, 2024 @ 8:09 pm
Not so sure about the references in CITR. I’m a Hemingway fan, and Felker has mentioned several times that he also is at least a reader of Hemingway. The line in “Bird Hunters” about “if you’d married that girl, you’d have married her family” is from the short story “The Three Day Blow.” Felker stated as much on a MeatEater podcast. Hemingway has a short story called “Cat in the rain” and the theory is that the cat represents his wife Hadley wanting a baby. The events in the song preceded reconciliation with his wife and them having a baby (now two) in pretty short order. Both Felker and Hemingway employ the “iceberg theory” of writing, you write about one thing, give a little detail, but you are really talking about something else that’s a whole lot bigger. As soon as I learned the title to the new album my mind went to his ex/new wife wanting a baby. Just me. But I recommend both stories for a quick enjoyable read and everyone can judge for themselves. Have fun reading everyone!
February 7, 2024 @ 8:11 pm
Ali, when you read through these comments, I hope you realize most listeners viewed Lorrie favorably. You were a good girl from back home with some problems like the rest of us, but we loved you the same.
February 7, 2024 @ 8:31 pm
Skeptical hippo eyes from me on this. She could have came forward sooner about this. Lorrie isn’t her name, and chances are high no one knew she was lorrie. The biggest part is using this attention to immediately draw attention to her own song.
February 7, 2024 @ 9:32 pm
People knew. It’s been an “open secret” around these parts for a long time. I get taking issue with how she did this, she said herself she bungled the whole thing and should have gone about it a different way. I think TT fans need to take a beat before they come after her. Think about the people in your life you would actually care whether or not your life was being misrepresented to. Is it strangers? I don’t know about you, but for me I wouldn’t care about that part. I would care about the embarrassment of having my family or friends who were in the know about the situation hear one song after another come out referring to it. I think considering whether she deserves the same leeway Evan gets while strip mining her life for material would be a worthy conversation to have. Writing is messy and so is life. Feelings drive both, but the writer gets the luxury of hiding theirs within the craft and a polished finish product.
February 8, 2024 @ 3:07 pm
Ok, How? You seem to be close to the source but just like Ms. Harter, the nuggets of evidence are cryptic and only raise more curiosity.
Again, whether or not any, some or all songs reflect the life or the “misrepresentation” of the life, the average person not intimately plugged into the industry does not know any better. No one would even know this much if not for her own rant which has now, understandably and ONLY, become viral due to TT’s popularity.
As stated previously, this is age old material for song writing.
Nobody cares. Except this person has now seemingly fired a shot and people understandably would be curious to know why. So, its very strange that someone seemingly wants to keep private things private but then opens up Pandora’s Box on the internet…..followed by a song plug.
A writer should be able to ahem….”strip mine”…..any aspect of their own life, or observation of another’s (real or imagined) and adapt, craft, mold, sculpt or modify in any manor whatsoever to create said finished product so long as no laws are broken. That is what artistic license is.
Seemingly the family and friends would be in on the secret so I fail to see what embarrassment comes from that. Explain “strip mining her life”, Wouldn’t it be strip mining “their” life?
I mean no disrespect or further strife toward Ms. Harter but there are several questions that have been invited by her actions. Its been put into the public domain now where the courts say there is limited expectation for privacy so again, i do not understand the goals here. If this is part of a healing process then great but the scrutiny should not be unexpected.
February 8, 2024 @ 9:42 pm
I think you may find that there are those who have lived their lives in close proximity to artists who would disagree with you when it comes to an artist’s “right” to mine everything from everyone around them in service of their craft. Artists are just human beings, and so are the people in their orbit, and whether they are there by choice or chance, those people should not lose agency over whether or not their private things are used. Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should…and just because a practice is “age old” doesn’t mean it doesn’t deserve modern scrutiny.
As avid as TT fans seem to be, I have to say I am a bit surprised at the lack of imagination and salient interpretation of their body of work when it comes to the lore of “Lorrie,” and why such a “muse” might be upset. People that know and love both of them know that not all of it was his life to use.
I know it’s probably frustrating, but I will refrain from saying more than that as that story is not mine to tell, even though because I witnessed part of it, according to the latitude given in these comments to artists, it’s my life too. I think it is likely that both fans and journalists alike will be additionally frustrated moving forward as they discover no one who knows Evan, or Ali, or both (now or then) thinks it is their story to tell either. There’s a reason for that.
As far as the little info Ali did post and is now in the public eye, she herself explained that she made a mistake, and that she wasn’t in a state of mind she was proud of and has regrets. That bell couldn’t be unrung given TT’s notoriety, and so she felt the need to explain herself a bit further, but she doesn’t wish to hurt anyone, or have this continue. I’m paraphrasing, of course, but that’s all in her statements above. She’s made it clear she isn’t “inviting” anything. Human beings make mistakes, and I’m of the opinion that the information the public now has doesn’t mean that the public is entitled to more. She had the chance to talk to Trigger in depth if what she was after is more attention.
The only thing she asked is for it to stop. I don’t believe that’s an unreasonable request. If anyone here does, then I’ll bring up again that I think that conversation Trigger mentioned earlier about the ethics surrounding “artist” and “muse” is something that sorely needs further attention.
April 15, 2025 @ 6:54 am
While I wouldn’t want to question your undoubtedly omniscient and unbiased insider knowledge, short of Evan calling Ms. Harter, “hey I wrote a song about you” I’m gonna call BS on her as well.
There simply aren’t enough uniquely defining features, except the name (which doesn’t match). “Lorrie” could be any one of a dozen women I’ve known. If the scant details which can be gleaned for the TT discography really do narrow things down unambiguously to Ms. Harter, then she must be an entirely generic person.
I think more likely Lorrie is a character created drawing inspiration from real life, which probably includes a number of individuals and times and places. But since Lorrie is not Ali, we have no basis on which to expect them to have identical biographies.
February 8, 2024 @ 3:42 am
It is sad that this has brought her pain. I hope she can find a way through it and get some healing and positives.
I also hope that everyone reading it sees how many swear words lead a reader or listener to a different conclusion about the author or speaker, many of which not in a good way.
April 15, 2025 @ 6:55 am
I didn’t notice the swear words. I think you may not be as representative of “a reader” as you imagine yourself to be.
February 8, 2024 @ 7:50 am
Before she saw me, I saw Lorrie in the Walmart toilet paper (a)isle
My old song about her was ringing in her ears,
and I could tell right away it wasn’t one that she wanted to hear
It only took a second to spin my cart around
Nodded to the greeter as I ran out the door and raced for the other side of town
February 8, 2024 @ 7:56 am
this woman doesn’t seem stable. I viewed Lorrie as favorable character. mainly because I have my own Lorrie from a time gone by, actually named Lorrie, but spelled different. based upon what I’ve been able to find out, this woman doesn’t seem all that likable, assuming any of this is even true. To me it sounds like a woman who knew these guys early on, who very badly wants to be Lorrie, but really isn’t, but has convinced herself that she was.
February 8, 2024 @ 7:57 am
Fictional characters are often inspired by real people – but they generally aren’t carbon copies, or even close to that. I have absolutely no clue how much of the Lorrie in the songs ties to the actual experiences in whatever relationship she and (I’m guessing) Felker once had. That would provide some much-needed clarity on whether she has justified cause to be upset or not.
I’d be upset if someone I had dated wrote a bunch of songs that aired our personal experiences and dirty laundry. But I don’t believe I would care if someone generated a fictional character with cosmetic similarities to me but a different name, then used that fictional character in their songs. I’m guessing this case is somewhere in the middle?
February 8, 2024 @ 8:24 am
Yes. In my experience, these characters are generally an amalgamation of different people.
February 8, 2024 @ 8:22 am
In my opinion, this is a story of unbridled narcissism and the inability for the narcissist to accept their own shortcomings and personal failures. Fifteen years ago, they were all a bunch of ragamuffin, Okie kids bumbling their way though life playing music. They had a dream but not much realistic hope for success. The tiny few, the Turnpike bros made it big and are now selling out every venue they play in their home state. The majority, including Lorrie were left behind to bumble around with little life success and no notoriety.
To the mentally healthy folk, we accept our personal limitations as gladly as we accept our personal gifts fully understanding that most folks talents, including our own won’t lead us to fame and the spectacle of success like a popular musical artist. And that is fine. Quiet success is enough for the non-narcissist. We don’t need to be “special.” But the narcissist, is the star in their own show, the pivot point where the entire earth rotates and watching some of your peer dirty okie kids hit the big time while you’re left unknown and unappreciated is a circle that the narcissist can’t square and they blow a gasket. In my opinion that is what we are all watching here. It’s not fair, I’m special, they aren’t, why am I not selling out arenas.
I hope this spawns another Lorrie song.
February 8, 2024 @ 9:42 am
I’m sure it stings for her to hear parts of their relationship – probably certain lines that only ring a bell for her (and Evan)… but I think the memories probably skew her vision. Perhaps Good Lord Lorrie fits closely, and maybe Gin Smoke & Lies, though “Lorrie” is never mentioned. Beyond that, I think Evan developed the character in his mind beyond the real person.
If there’s one thing I’ve learned being close to certain bands, it’s that once you really know the person behind the songs, you’re unable to hear the songs clearly anymore. I don’t think she’ll ever be able to listen to TT clearly, but that’s just life. The grocery store probably could be an unsettling place to have to face these thoughts.
February 8, 2024 @ 12:01 pm
Sounds like someone desperately craving attention to me
February 8, 2024 @ 2:42 pm
In probably 99% of all great, heartfelt, singer-songwriter songs, “someone” in the artist’s life was a direct inspiration or muse. That is what equipped it to make an impact on the rest of us. Because it’s real! If anyone feels Evan was somehow wrong to write about his life events, possibly referencing some true details that may have shaped him and the music, then I feel very sorry for you and recommend you redirect your attention to something more in line with the Spice Girls, Cardi-B, or heaven forbid, Luke Bryan. ????
February 8, 2024 @ 4:38 pm
“There might be a reference to another singer in the title track, though strangely, nobody seems to want to talk about that.” I want to know more…
February 8, 2024 @ 5:10 pm
Stop with the f-word, Ali/Lorrie. It’s an ugly word, used by ugly people. I’ve listened to your music, and it’s really good. I’m a fellow Okie…I’ve only ever thought of Lorrie as a girl I would love to know…only positive thoughts about Lorrie.
February 9, 2024 @ 4:21 am
There may be no Lorrie on this album, but dad gum there is Lucille… and damn if it’s not a Lorrie esque storyline continuation. “Your a bonfire that burned in the back of my mind”. And, if you can’t see the veritability of Ms. Harter’s contention, you just lack imagination. “I wonder who’s keepin the baby tonight” (while you go out and run around) That probably constitutes ripping somebody’s history of choices to make your music tell a tale that captures attention. I mean no music before this since 2017… so the implication of “you won’t shut up and quit using my narrative to write “your” hits” seems to imply material off the new album retraces that again. Just some ideas ????♂️
February 9, 2024 @ 4:57 pm
????
February 10, 2024 @ 9:48 am
““I wonder who’s keepin the baby tonight” (while you go out and run around)”
I wonder if Evan is the father of that baby, and/or perhaps another, in their history.
February 10, 2024 @ 3:14 pm
Evan Felker does not have a child with Ali. As unburdening as her statements were, something tells me this would have come out.
It is, however, pretty irresponsible to insinuate such a thing. It’s like you sit around for hours trying to figure out the best way to stir shit with your comments.
February 10, 2024 @ 6:17 pm
You are incorrect.
Sincerely wondering.
Seems like there was a lot of hurt on both sides.
If there is anyone who loves to stir the crap on this site, you have no further to look, than yourself.
Hardly think any of us “sit around for hours” trying to come up with ways to stir the pot.
But, you go right ahead with your attacks.
February 11, 2024 @ 1:29 am
Yeah, like never said that bro… I mean like the pictures kinda look like her first kid could be a mix of her and Ev… but never ever said that. All I implied was maybe a complicated, long burning relationship could produce fodder for a recovering legend songwriter that still has plenty demons to deal with, to draw upon a familiar source for material. The introduced narrative is that Felker isn’t such a magic God that the casual listener and late comer turnpike fan makes him out to be. I mean I’m certain that he is, but not for the reasons the “average” fan believes is such. Trig, I appreciate your work… but you’ve never been to east Oklahoma and you haven’t a concept of what really cooks down here. Not pleasant of you to say “how irresponsible of you” to someone who has and knows so much more texture and information than you. Probably stand down and let the story tell itself for what it is.