Maddie & Tae Slam The Use of Electronic Drums, Admit to Using Media Trainer Previously
Well well well.
The story of country upstart duo Maddie & Tae only continues to get more juicy and intriguing, and only continues to turn more and more towards a positive one for folks concerned about the lack of roots and female representation in the country genre.
When Maddie & Tae’s #1 country super hit “Girl in a Country Song” hit the airwaves in July of 2014, it was a shot across the bow of Bro-Country, but there were some serious reservations coming from true country fans about the duo’s intentions, and if the song was worthy of rooting for. Were the electronic drums and record scratches at the beginning of “Girl In A Country Song” meant as a stylistic expression, or to poke fun of the hip-hop influences encroaching on country? And when they spoke to the media, the duo tried to soft-pedal what otherwise sounded like some pretty scathing commentary in the song about the way much of modern country represents females.
In numerous interviews, Maddie & Tae said that “liked” or “loved” the Bro-Country artists and songs, but . . .
“Looking good for the boys is not all we have to offer for them. We’re bringing a voice for the girls in country music, and that’s why we came at this topic with a different perspective,” the duo told NPR at the time. “It’s just a trend that kind of became irresponsible in its view of women, so we wanted to come about it from our perspective ”¦ Because as women, we don’t want to be thought of as one-dimensional, and that’s kind of how these songs have been portraying women. So we hope that kind of changes the game just a little bit.”
It was a pretty mixed message, and had some country fans confused.
However in a new interview with Holly Gleason for HITS Daily Double, the duo spills the beans about why they were so political in their initial responses to the song.
“We told some journalists we were joking, meaning we were making jokes about all the stupid things guys say about girls in these songs,” says Maddie Marlow. “Next thing you know, people thought we were saying that we were just kidding . . . We had a media trainer tell us to say we were kidding’ because they were worried people would be mad at us. I don’t think anyone thought it would take off like it did but we didn’t say anything everyone else wasn’t thinking.”
And some were mad at “Girl In A Country Song,” including fellow Big Machine Label Group member Brian Kelley of Florida Georgia Line. In an interview with The Chicago Tribune, Brian Kelley became hostile when the song was brought up, saying, “All I’m gonna say about that is, I don’t know one girl who doesn’t want to be a girl in a country song. That’s all I’m gonna say to you. That’s it.”
But that’s just where Maddie & Tae’s recent revelations begin. Now that the duo has some skins on the wall, and just released their first full-length record Start Here, the young songwriters are starting to throw their weight around like a couple of salty veterans, in an environment where even many of the salty veterans these days are staying mum about the direction of country.
On the subject of drum machines being used in country songs, this is how the topic was handled by Maddie Marlow in a recent interview with The Associated Press:
“Fake drums,” said Maddie Marlow, clenching her fists in mock anger. “I hate the fake drums. Those need to go away!” . . . Of course there’s pressure . . . if you don’t have this slamming up-tempo (song) that has a little rap thing in it, then it’s not going to make it on country radio. We are saying something and we’re not backing down. This is the message. This is what we want to say.”
And the other Maddie & Tae member, Tae Dye, is also getting into the action. Once again speaking with HITS Daily Double, Dye says, “We knew what we wanted to sound like, the country-ness of it. Thankfully, [producer] Dan Huff got it, respected it and knew how to get it. He comes from the rock world, so that aggressive sound is something he does. When he applies it to a banjo or a fiddle, it’s in your face. It’s been a while since country music had some of that, so we wanna put a whole mess of it on the radio. We’re those kinda girls.”
READ: Maddie & Tae’s “Start Here” is a Start on the Right Track for Mainstream Country
This is just a few of many quotes coming out of recent interviews with the duo. And in many moments of Start Here, they put their money where their mouth is, with traditional instrumentation right out front.
Maddie & Tae still may not be the right speed for many traditional country fans. But as time goes on, they sure make it hard not to root for them.
StellaA
August 31, 2015 @ 6:47 pm
It’s a sad day when country music fans have to look towards a 17 year old young woman to speak for them. God bless ’em, though. One step at a time I guess.
On another note, I like WCG’s ‘Ringling Road’ music video. I was happy to see some money being spent on him.
Nadia Lockheart
August 31, 2015 @ 8:27 pm
Why should it matter how old or which sex the artist or entertainer is?
We ought to welcome all hands on deck who share in thé end goal of restoring what makes country music distinctive: regardless of the branch of the family tree.
I for one applaud that they have a Kacey Musgraves-esque fighting spirit and are willing to stand up for distinctively country instrumentation in thé réalm of mainstream/contemporary country music. And while I embrace the elder statesmen/stateswomen of the community and believe they must always be venerated and never taken for granted, youthful passion matters just as much.
That’s the beauty of music to me. It is, in purity, the universal language that transcends all labels and monikers. I get why some aren’t likely to warm up to Maddie & Tae’s style, but if their début is any indication, they will prove to do a whole lot more good in thé months and years ahead in speaking to heart-centered, age-appropriate expériences and conserving traditional instrumentation in thé genre.
Eric
August 31, 2015 @ 10:08 pm
Speaking of age-appropriate, I hope they occasionally write some songs for the older audience as well!
BTW, what’s with all the accent marks in your comments? Are you using a French keyboard? 😉
Nadia Lockheart
August 31, 2015 @ 11:38 pm
“After The Storm Blows Through”, and to an extent “No Place Like You” and “Right Here Right Now”, I’m sure are those kind of songs that have multi-age demographic appeal. But I understand your overall point.
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I recently purchased a Samsung Galaxy S5, and the language accidentally defaulted to French one day about a month ago.
Sometimes, I write comments via my phone. And because the language is set to French, vowels usually surface with accent marks. I could have easily read the instruction manuel on how to default it back to English, but I’ve actually chosen to keep it as is as sort of a quirk in the meanwhile! ^__^
Anna
September 1, 2015 @ 7:06 am
It matters because now there’s not many women at all representing the genre, whether it be traditional or even quality crossover stuff. There used to be so many queens, downright goddesses gracing the industry. Now it’s only a small handful of ladies, and their music doesn’t hold quite the same appeal for me even though I do in fact like them, but I am definitely impressed with Maddie and Tae! Love their harmony.
Eric
August 31, 2015 @ 10:00 pm
For the record, Maddie is 20 and Tae is 19.
John Wayne Twitty
August 31, 2015 @ 7:01 pm
I just love these girls. A couple shit heads who like country music values are definitely good in my book. They could vomit and autotune it and it’d still be better than the feces covered drivel that Thomas Rhett is spewing. Of course they were being politically correct initially. I hope they get a ton of success so they can bash away. I just don’t want them backing down from what they say. Country music needs people to speak out against the dickhead rap that has all but ruined the genre.
On a side note, these 2 are a combined 39 years old, which is Luke Bryan’s age. Maybe it’s going to take a couple kids to save us from the middle aged frat boys.
Heavy Metal Cowboy
September 1, 2015 @ 11:06 am
Why do you call them “shit heads”?
John Wayne Twitty
September 1, 2015 @ 5:34 pm
My grandma used it as an endearing term for my brother and I, as we stood up for ourselves, didn’t mind a little tussle, and are hard headed. It’s a good thing.
Benjamin Beard
August 31, 2015 @ 7:18 pm
I love it. I hope people listen to them, both on a fan level and an industry level. Pop country or not, it is still country. And about damn time.
Jim Bob
August 31, 2015 @ 7:38 pm
Eh, they’re about where kasey musgraves is for me. Which means I’m very unlikely to ever pay money to listen to them, but I appreciate what they’re doing and hope they succeed. A step back from the country music cliff is almost always a good thing whether it’s my cup of tea or not. Hell, if we all liked the exact same music none of this would be fun!
CountryKnight
August 31, 2015 @ 9:08 pm
The picture isn’t very flattering to the girl on the right, it makes her look like a demented, younger Hillary Clinton.
Hopefully, they keep up the good fight.
Brandon
August 31, 2015 @ 9:38 pm
I believe that their careers will go as far as Scott Borchetta wants it to , they don’t have the talent wo win over Texas country/traditionalist fans.
Anyways, I don’t like pop music so I won’t be returning to their album but I hope they get radio play as their album is one of better mainstream albums.
Eric
August 31, 2015 @ 10:05 pm
“they don”™t have the talent wo win over Texas country/traditionalist fans.”
This type of harshness is completely unwarranted, especially since Maddie and Tae have proven to be allies in our fight to save country music.
Eric
August 31, 2015 @ 10:03 pm
Maddie and Tae have truly been exceeding my expectations, both in terms of their music and in terms of their adherence to the principles of country music. Being among the few popular females in mainstream country right now, they hold significant power in shifting the genre away from its current bro-ness and back to its roots.
Megan Conley
September 1, 2015 @ 12:25 am
I am so damn tired of all the people saying that Maddie & Tae aren’t country, that they aren’t mature, whatever. I have news for all of you: country music has been handed over to Maddie & Tae’s generation, and these girls are some of the best hope we have right now for actually “saving country music.” They made an album that was relatable to a generation that perceives country as bad rap, hip-hop beats, metro-politan/EDM club music, bro country crap, etc. You and I know that isn’t country, but the average listener doesn’t–and Maddie & Tae have brought real country music, featuring fiddles, steel guitars, banjos being used appropriately, mandolins, and honest, relatable lyrics to that demographic. And like it or not, most of that demographic isn’t mature. Yet Maddie & Tae produced a far more mature album than anything Kelsea Ballerini or RaeLynn has ever recorded, while still relating to this demographic. Now they’re adding, on top of all this, speaking out against the use of drum machines and setting up boundary lines for country–in short, gatekeeping. If you truly love country music and want to see it survive, stop complaining about their slight pop influence, their age, etc. and respect them as artists who are doing more for country music than anyone in the mainstream has done in years.
Charlie
September 1, 2015 @ 4:54 am
‘country music has been handed over to Maddie & Tae”™s generation’
I think that is a good point, especially in reference back to JWT’s comment about the age difference. I think with Blake and Luke and Jason et al hanging on for dear life, there exists a bit of an extended generation gap. Some of the young artists who should have been doing their own thing instead ended up standing in the shadows of the aforementioned. So now that things may be opening up, the reins are ending up in the hands of the really, really young! Let’s hope we like their place in the sun.
Eric
September 1, 2015 @ 5:18 am
Blake, Luke, and Jason (and Eric Church) are exactly where they should be given the history of country music. Traditionally, males in country music have enjoyed their career peaks in their mid-late 30s. Garth Brooks and Willie Nelson were the only notable exceptions, with the former reaching his highest popularity around 30 and the latter in his late 40s.
The real story in recent years is women peaking much earlier than the historical norm. Traditionally, female singers reached their career heights in their early-mid 30s, but Miranda Lambert and Carrie Underwood both achieved that feat in their late 20s, and of course Taylor Swift hit her country music peak in her late teens. Maddie and Tae, if they hit it big, would certainly rank near the young end of top-level country stars, going by historical norms.
Eric
September 1, 2015 @ 5:37 am
Before anyone jumps on me for the “only notable exceptions” line, I will just amend that to “the only notable exceptions that I could think of when I wrote the comment”. Hank Williams died before he could reach his peak, and most of the Class of 89 (Clint Black, Travis Tritt, and Mark Chesnutt) faded into the background soon after their debuts. Ricky Skaggs also peaked younger than usual, around 30 like Garth Brooks.
Albert
September 1, 2015 @ 7:38 am
Excellent observations Megan…..and on the money ….
LG
September 1, 2015 @ 2:30 am
This group’s music is not my thing. But after reading stories like this I’m tempted to buy the album anyway, just to show a little support.
KC
September 1, 2015 @ 5:33 am
Think about it. Who better to bring in the young female demo and expose them to at least somewhat meaningful music? The guys aren’t doing thatbwith their fluffy EDM crap. I just hope they don’t go all Taylor Swift.
jimmy row
September 1, 2015 @ 6:25 am
Sturg is 37. So……
scott
September 1, 2015 @ 7:12 am
I know this may come as a shock, but not everyone drinks the Sturgill kool aid. I respect the hell outta the guy, wish him the best, but not really a fan. Bought the cd’s, tried to enjoy them, just don’t. Cody Jinks, that’s a different story.
John B
September 2, 2015 @ 10:15 am
Cody’s great (and I’m REALLY glad to hear his name bandied around more often, as I have been following his career for a few years now.) Great voice, good song writer. But his sound seems to keep veering more and more away from country and more towards the blues/rock hybrid that permeates much of the red dirt scene. I’ll take an album like Cast No Stones, which was very reminiscent of later Merle Haggard and Keith Whitley over most of the stuff on his latest record..
86TELE
September 2, 2015 @ 2:09 pm
“Cast No Stones” was good, but I think “Birds” was the top song of Adobe Sessions. That album didn’t have a bad song on it.
scott
September 3, 2015 @ 7:15 am
You’re right. Adobe Sessions is the best album I’ve heard in a long time, strong from top to bottom. He is very good live, too.
RobertS
September 1, 2015 @ 7:18 am
My very distant cousin C. Stapleton is also 37. I like Mr. Simpson’s work, also.
It will be interesting to see how the fans of different age brackets like the music from artists of varied age brackets at the show I’m going to later this month with Alan Jackson, CS, and Maddie&Tae all on the same day. I’m pretty easy to please , so I expect to enjoy it all.
CountryKnight
September 1, 2015 @ 6:58 am
I fervently hope that they stay our allies, but I’m not committing myself just yet. Too many scars from the past prevent that.
hoptowntiger
September 1, 2015 @ 10:16 am
I loved the when they were on Full House.
Jack Williams
September 2, 2015 @ 5:40 am
They’re on “Liv and Maddie” now. Ironically enough, Tae plays Maddie.
Wez
September 1, 2015 @ 1:03 pm
Their entire album is fake drums…
Megan Conley
September 1, 2015 @ 4:31 pm
Really, their entire album? This is quite possibly the most misinformed comment I have ever read on SCM, and that includes everything Clint has ever posted. Listen to “After the Storm Blows Through” and then report back.
Wez
September 1, 2015 @ 4:43 pm
Hahahahah
Fuzzy TwoShirts
September 2, 2015 @ 11:51 am
“and that includes everything Clint has ever posted.”
I laughed WAY harder than I should have at that.
Matt
September 1, 2015 @ 1:43 pm
Good Lord, If I ever saw the phrase “media trainer” in a contract involving myself I would have no reservations about wiping my ass with that particular piece of paper.
Cool Lester Smooth
September 2, 2015 @ 10:43 pm
Then good luck getting a record deal at a major label before you’re 30!
Andrew
September 1, 2015 @ 3:32 pm
If people actually care about saving country music, they should be rooting hard for Maddie & Tae. These girls are exactly what’s needed. A group that’s radio friendly while still being unmistakably country and actually has something to say. They might not have the depth yet of Musgraves or Monroe, but they’re also 7 years younger and have plenty of time to develop it.
Far too many people in the comments on posts here about them seem to be hearing their music and writing them off as not needing to hear anymore from them. There’s a load of potential here and I’m fully on board with them until they give a good reason not to be.
Smokey J.
September 2, 2015 @ 6:23 am
I dunno if they’re going to make it into my personal music rotation, but I appreciate what they’re standing up for and I hope they make a lot of money, because that’s what will make the bros and the bro-enablers take notice. And may they never sell out.
Stephanie
September 2, 2015 @ 8:02 am
So I think it’s somewhat noteworthy that when I saw them open at a show this summer, they played a fair amount of Non Country covers. Including a Rhianna song. I found that disappointing and not in fitting with their “keep it country” message.
Megan Conley
September 2, 2015 @ 11:29 am
Good point…however, this actually makes me respect them more because they want to keep country country. They understand the difference between pop and country, and this comment seems to help prove that point.
Chris
September 2, 2015 @ 12:15 pm
Yes, the plus side is since they are fans of other genres but keep their own record country they help destroy the bros dumb excuse of “we grew up listening to other genres so we sing and rap those (instead of country) on our records.”
clayton
September 2, 2015 @ 11:32 am
This their new single. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsuXrhtH2HI
This Augustana’s ‘Boston.’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INuS80qe_qU
Chris
September 2, 2015 @ 12:17 pm
They said 90s country is their influence. They don’t rip off pop songs and turn them into trash like Thomas Rhett, and Girl In A Country Song called out his trashy bro-country lyrics that objectify women.
Clovis
September 3, 2015 @ 7:49 am
Makes me definitely want to give them my money. Artists like this deserve to be supported over the pathetic stuff being put out by the rest of country radio.