UPDATED: More Details Needed in Disturbing War & Treaty Cotton Plant Story

This story has been updated.
UPDATE: The organizers of the Coca-Cola Sips & Sounds Music Festival have responded to the accusations by The War & Treaty with the following statement.
“We are disheartened that the artists were ever uncomfortable at last weekend’s event. There was no purposeful harm intended, and we sincerely apologize. Their concern was met with immediate action, including a heartfelt in-person apology, removal of the decor and a personal conversation with the artists by event organizers to assure them this was an honest mistake. The plant was part of the existing décor utilized by the venue well in advance of this event, long before the space was assigned to any artist and was removed immediately.“
Original article below:
Heading into the the 4th of July weekend, a disturbing story published in The Hollywood Reporter finds the Black country soul duo The War & Treaty accusing the Coca-Cola Sips & Sounds Music Festival in Austin last weekend (June 29th and 30th) of racism. When the duo arrived in their dressing room at the Circuit of the Americas raceway, somebody had placed a cotton plant on an end table. The duo took it as a racist action.
Michael Trotter Jr. published a quick video highlighting the cotton plant on his Instagram story.

“Anger is what I felt. Disrespect is what I felt. Sadness is what I felt,” Michael Trotter tells The Hollywood Reporter. “Sadness not just because of what that plant represents to people that look like me but sadness for myself because I am a son of this country. I served this country honorably in the United States Army 16th Infantry, 2nd Brigade, 1st Armored Division. I’m wounded for that service. I’m very vocal about my wounds and my scars, and I felt betrayed.”
Tanya Trotter went on to say that the incident hit her hard as the daughter of a sharecropper.
“My grandfather actually bought the plantation that he picked cotton on in New Bern, North Carolina. My family actually still lives there. So when you see these things, you look at it and you’re like, ‘Wow, even though my grandfather bought the plantation, there’s still a lot of pain rooted for people that didn’t get an opportunity to change it into economic development for their families.’ I didn’t want to sit in there and educate because it’s not my position to educate anybody on what cotton is and what it represents in this country. It just shouldn’t happen. Beyond it just being about racism, it’s broader now. It’s now a safety issue because we have to feel safe coming to these festivals.”
The accusation by The War & Treaty should be taken seriously. Even if the placing of the cotton plant was completely inadvertent, it doesn’t diminish the duo’s experience that clearly has left them rattled and disturbed in a way that the country music community should not tolerate. At the same time, the seriousness of the accusation also means the situation needs serious investigation, and deep scrutiny to find out why the cotton plant was placed in the dressing room, if it was intentional or malicious, and how to prevent such situations from happening again in the future.
Who Are The War & Treaty?
The War & Treaty have been active in the country and Americana space since 2014, performing at the Grand Ole Opry countless times, participating in major award presentations such as the ACM Awards, the CMA Awards, and the Americana Music Awards. They signed to a major Nashville Music Row record label in UMG Nashville in 2022, and are regularly booked at major country music festivals. For Black performers in country music, The War & Treaty have been comparatively successful.
The History of The War & Treaty and Country Music
The War & Treaty are not known to be ones to cause a stir simply for their own promotion, including throwing accusations of racism out against individuals or the country music industry. If anything, they have been a “go along to get along” duo fighting natural headwinds in country music to take advantage of opportunities not bestowed to the vast majority of country artists. Regardless of the origin story of the cotton plant and the deeper implications, this concern is not coming from a duo that looks to make everything about race, or to play up the adversity they have faced in the industry.
What is the Coca-Cola Sips and Sounds Festival?
The Coca-Cola Sips and Sounds event was an extremely poorly-curated corporate event promoted by a major American brand trying to ingratiate itself to consumers as the public trends away from soft drink consumption.
“We’re looking to use this investment and this event to help drive our business objectives,” says Ryan Keen, Senior Marketing Manager, Coca-Cola. “We’re really hoping to connect with consumers, locally, in this Texas market as a way to localize our national and global Coke music campaigns. We want to figure out how to make that more relevant to the fans and consumers.”
To use the vernacular of the time, Coca-Cola Sips and Sounds was a “woke” event. Headliners Maren Morris and Kelsea Ballerini have been two of country music’s most outspoken performers on social/political issues in the last few years. Black performers The War & Treaty and Devon Gillfilian, and Latin performer Sammy Arriaga speak to the purposeful attempt by the festival to present a racially diverse lineup.
The idea that the promoters of the Coca-Cola Sips and Sounds Festival who are actively trying to promote their brand and a corporate DEI-based perspective on country music purposely placed a cotton plant in the dressing room of The War & Treaty to taunt them in a racist act is extremely unlikely.
If the cotton plant was placed in the dressing room in a purposely racist act by an individual or a group of individuals, whomever is responsible should be publicly named and reprimanded, and the promoters should offer an apology and course of action to make sure similar scenarios never happen again. If it was a completely inadvertent mistake, a detailed explanation of how the cotton plant was placed still needs to be given.
Were cotton plants placed in all of the dressing rooms or in other dressing rooms, or just the one for The War & Treaty?
UPDATE: The War & Treaty said on X, “No other dressing room had it. We were the only black band and regardless of what it is used for in that state it represents something totally different to people who look like us.”
For the record , Black artist Devon Gillfillian also did perform on the weekend as well.
What Is The Circuit of the Americas?
The Circuit of the Americas or COTA is an international Formula 1 raceway that is accustomed to hosting international races and dealing with the intricacies of many various customs, religions, and races. This is not a NASCAR raceway operated by good ol’ boys in the deep South. It is an international raceway in a generally liberal community in Austin, TX.
Is This the Fault of “Country Music”?
The Hollywood Reporter article starts, “Though Black artists have made major strides on the recent country music scene, racism in the genre still exists. For Americana-country husband-and-wife duo The War and Treaty, it came last week at the Coca-Cola Sips & Sounds Music Festival in Austin, Texas.”
The War & Treaty are signed to a Nashville major label. They perform on the Grand Ole Opry regularly. They performed on the ACM Awards in 2021, the CMA Awards in 2022, and had a major hit with Zach Bryan in 2023 with “Hey Driver.” They have been nominated for both the ACM and CMA Vocal Duo of the Year, and won the Duo/Group of the Year from the Americana Music Association twice. The War & Treaty have been completely embraced by the country music industry.
Too often country music is dealt with as a monolith. If someone placed the cotton plant in the dressing room as an intentional racist act, this would be the fault of the individual first, their superiors second, and the promoter third. “Country music” has embraced The War & Treaty.
The Concern of Overreaction
Similar to the Bubba Wallace noose incident at the Talladega Superspeedway in 2019 that ultimately was investigated by the FBI as a hate crime and debunked, the cotton plant in The War & Treaty’s dressing room could boil down to a simple misunderstanding. That doesn’t take away their feeling of fear or the duo’s interpretation of the incident. But before indicting entire organizations or genres of music, a detailed investigation should be done to figure out who placed the plant in the dressing room, and why. Otherwise, similar racist could run the risk of being cast off as “boy who cried wolf” scenarios.
July 3, 2024 @ 8:50 pm
I’d bet that cotton plant is one of Hobby Lobby’s most popular decorations. They’re in just about every suburban house decorated by a 30-something white woman.
July 8, 2024 @ 11:15 am
I bet they wear cotton clothes.
July 3, 2024 @ 8:56 pm
I understand that “decorating” with cotton plants/stems is a thing right now but this seems inappropriate. It is a sizable bouquet, and looking at it through their eyes, I can see how it looks like a message. And not a good one. It would be different if it were a nice-sized bouquet of flowers, but it is not. I hope it was just a decorating thing, but these days, you never know.
July 3, 2024 @ 9:20 pm
” looking at it through their eyes, I can see how it looks like a message.”
This is a very important part of this story, and one I’m afraid many will overlook. Irrespective of why the plant was placed there, The War & Treaty’s interpretation of it is real, and unless we have walked a mile in their shoes, it may be hard to understand this.
That said, it is frustrating that The Hollywood Reporter story seems to leave no room for the most likely scenario that the plant was placed there completely inadvertently, however carelessly. Could someone with racist intent placed it there too? Sure, I guess that’s possible. But the idea that Coca-Cola Sips and Sounds would book The War & Treaty, Maren Morris, and Devon Gilfillian, just to turn around and make a boldface racist maneuver toward The War & Treaty seems very far fetched. If the festival was racist, they would have never booked The War & Treaty to begin with.
July 4, 2024 @ 7:58 am
I, and other millions of others, have ancestry from nations that were raided for slaves by the Barbary Pirates and the Tartars. Yet, we can walk with the Morocco Pavilion at the World Showcase or see a crescent without rushing to social media.
Maybe it was placed there with racist intent but it was darned subtle and that isn’t the usual MO. Generally, people want to provoke a definite reaction and a vase can easily be overlooked.
July 4, 2024 @ 8:26 am
Getting worked up over something this ambiguous will only open the door for others to mess with them for real. It’s human nature to pick on people whose responses are so over the top for something so small.
July 3, 2024 @ 9:26 pm
Come on already.
July 4, 2024 @ 6:59 am
Agreed. This is ridiculous and both are acting like big fucking babies. Seriously which is more likely: That it was just a random decorating choice that they chose to misinterpret, or that people associated with the venue purposfully set out to make a slave-based sick joke.
July 4, 2024 @ 8:02 am
The “woke” festival hired War & Treaty to insult them a sick joke, so they could be called racist on social media! To get their name out there in a post-George Floyd world.
That makes sense!
July 4, 2024 @ 8:30 am
Maybe it was 2 guys in MAGA hats. Seriously though, I’m stuck on the part where this wounded war veteran (respect for that), has a safety concern because of a (most likely inadvertently placed), commonly used for decor plant. I’d also be curious to know: What happened after this major safety violation? Did they evacuate the area? Will they not be playing woke festivals anymore? Is anywhere safe enough? How is this story called “disturbing?”
July 4, 2024 @ 9:49 am
We know the Army is a beacon of wokeism and no one ever makes racial jokes there.
July 4, 2024 @ 9:59 am
What’s “disturbing” is the accusation that a cotton plant was placed in the room as a racist gesture toward The War & Treaty. What we need “more details” on is how and why the plant was there before we start pointing the ugly finger of judgement anywhere.
It states in “The Hollywood Reporter” that they pondered not performing, but ultimately decided to. The timing here of how all of this was decided and determined I think is important.
So often in these instances, we see folks take an official position on these things, and ultimately double and triple down on them, even as new information comes out. To this day, Bubba Wallace and others will argue, “Yeah, but it was a noose!” which is technically true, but completely missing the point that it was never placed there to send a message. It was simply a door pull, just like the cotton plant could simply be a piece of decor.
July 4, 2024 @ 10:30 am
You’re saying you’re disturbed by the accusation itself, as in the fact that they made the accusation at all? Or that there is a slight potential for some actual racism here? I honestly don’t know what you mean.
Even if we stamp out most racism, some will always exist. It’s inevitable and a human reality in every culture that has and will ever exist. How some people respond to increasingly rare, questionable and mild (at best) examples with exponentially increasing levels of outrage and alarmism is bizarre. I’ve heard more than a couple black people say their parents and grandparents who endured actual hardship shake their heads at the meltdowns over incidents like this (if this is even really an incident). But I guess you could say the same about most cultures…the younger generations have never been more whiny and fragile.
July 4, 2024 @ 3:07 pm
We’re getting into semantics here. If someone purposely put the cotton plant in the dressing room to taunt The War and Treaty, I find that disturbing. Do I think that’s what happened? I have no evidence of that, especially after the statement from the organizers.
July 3, 2024 @ 9:50 pm
The fact Hollywood Reporter got the story is suspicious. Not against War & Treaty, but someone at the venue did it so a story could be produced from it.
July 5, 2024 @ 11:02 am
I wouldn’t even rule out War & Treaty’s PR machine set this up, unbeknownst to W&T. That’s probably how it got to the Hollywood Reporter. In sure the PR team encouraged W&T to talk about it. Plus it’s election year so things like this will carry and be talked about. Just look at the noise it is generating. Probably hoping to War & Treaty will get more exposure. They are touring right now. Think about it.
July 3, 2024 @ 10:27 pm
Coca-Cola as an advocate for William Rainach seem perdy absurd.
July 3, 2024 @ 11:04 pm
Forget racism. The decorator should be disgraced for thinking a cotton plant was tasteful decor to begin with.
July 4, 2024 @ 7:52 am
Exactly, who thought “this is a great idea” probably had a few days go by, and still do it.
July 8, 2024 @ 11:50 am
It’s sold in a lot of home decor stores such as Hobby Lobby. A store full of tacky decorations, but it is a personal choice.
July 3, 2024 @ 11:40 pm
I hope it was inadvertent. I think it probably was. Racists tend to be far more ‘direct’ and ‘less intelligent’ than leaving a cotton plant. War and Treaty are 2 really lovely people who have a great act, make great music and work really hard. They deserve to be respected.
July 4, 2024 @ 2:56 am
Before losing your chili over this, did they bother asking someone at the venue why the plant was there? I highly doubt it. The first reaction is to hit social media. If you are offended by a cotton plant, you have way too much time on your hands. The demand for racism in this country far out strips the supply so it must be manufactured.
Please, this is the 21st century. A black person can do or be anything they want. The fact that this War and Treaty are even considered serious country music artists are evident of that.
July 4, 2024 @ 8:04 am
Not allowing an opportunity for the venue or promoters to even respond or offer an explanation before going public is a big part of this story. That is the reason I titled and framed my article like I did. The simple fact is that there is probably a reasonable explanation for this. But as soon as you have that reasonable explanation, you don’t have a viral story.
As I explained above, The War & Treaty have been around for 10 years, and have never come across as opportunistic when it comes to race. They are not known for claiming victimhood like we have seen from certain White performers, including ones on the same festival lineup.
The Hollywood Reporter on the other hand has perverse incentives to make a mountain out of this molehill. Whoever advised The War & Treaty to make a big deal about this before all the facts were known I feel made a mistake. One of the cool things about The War & Treaty is their talent could bust through stereotypes and racial barriers, and this situation could make it more difficult for them to do this moving forward, just like it became for Bubba Wallace.
I still leave open the possibility that someone with racist intent placed the plant there, because you never know. But if this is the case, you verify this first to strengthen your argument and story as opposed to pushing it out on the eve of a major holiday hoping to garner clicks.
July 4, 2024 @ 4:09 pm
Certain white performers? Can we be more specific because I wasn’t aware of any victimhood claims that are left for straight white men. Also I have a hard time believing that this is anything other than a social media stunt. There is no victim here outside of their own minds, yet now the door is now open for them to go on a “America is still racist” media tour online and on TV. I feel zero sympathy for them. Black people can’t both be “strong and powerful and worthy of their voices being heard” and conversely giant crybabies who emotionally break down at the wrong decor. Haven’t there been enough Jussie Smollett type cases for people to see that some when they aren’t making enough money, will be glad to pretend to be victims. I would wager money that’s the case here. I have views others would think are abrasive, amd I’m a vocal right-winger and I would never troll black people with a cotton plant vase. I could entertain the idea of someone playing a sick joke out of a racism a little easier if these two didn’t already have their bags packed for a social media apologize to us tour.
July 4, 2024 @ 4:23 pm
Maren Morris who was on the same festival lineup has made a career out of playing hero and victim. Others have done similar. In 10 years, The War and Treaty do not have a pattern of behavior like this. Whether you think this whole thing is a scam, the fact that they haven’t made any kind of stink like this in the past remains true.
” Haven’t there been enough Jussie Smollett type cases for people to see that some when they aren’t making enough money, will be glad to pretend to be victims.”
I am not going to indict The War & Treaty over the actions of someone else. Honestly, I don’t doubt the sincerity of their outrage. But unless there is something I am not seeing, I don’t see that it is warranted. This situation was an honest mistake by the venue at worst, and according to them, one they apologized for and worked to rectify.
Let’s also not let the press and “The Hollywood Reporter” off the hook for this. I think the outlet saw an opportunity here, and one that is probably not going to serve the purposes of The War & Treaty any more than anyone else.
July 4, 2024 @ 5:29 pm
My point exactly…a white woman. They want that sweet sweet victim clout. Straight white men can’t be victims over anything like this. I agree that the tabloids will take advantage of this, but War and Treaty can also do the right thing and not lean into the victimhood trope over something this incredibly minor.
Aren’t they setting themselves up to be seen as a “liability” to concert and music promoters now? If someone is putting on an event and they fear having to issue apologies and pay retribuitions for some “stunt” why wouldn’t they just book another sell emotionally volatile act? I am making some assumptions here but why are these thoughts not valid?
July 4, 2024 @ 5:34 pm
I agree that they haven’t made themselves victim yet. Neither did Jussie Smollett. Although before that incident he was seen pictured with Kamala Harris and other politcal figures. War and Treaty were at the White House recently. Again I am making an assumption here but just because someone didn’t play the victim on the national stage earlier doesn’t mean that it’s out of the realm of possibility.
My underlying point is that I think leaning into this will hurt themselves more than than anything. I like reading comments here because I get a grasp of general public sentiment. It seems like the majority of people are against leaning into racist accustations here. Sure the black political coalitions and political hardliners who don’t listen to country will lean into it but I fully believe they are hurting themselves here.
July 4, 2024 @ 3:47 am
As I said the other day, I come here to discover new artists like Jack McKeon and so many others that I have come to love (Zach Bryan, Wyatt Flores).
What I don’t come here for is this.
The only thing here interesting is the title of the article. Why post something until more *is* known?
July 4, 2024 @ 8:18 am
I wrote an article in late April called “THIS Is The Purpose of Saving Country Music” that addresses this very thing. You can read it here:
https://savingcountrymusic.com/this-is-the-purpose-of-saving-country-music/
The Hollywood Reporter made a very direct tie to the “racism in country music” to the experience of The War & Treaty at the Coca-Cola Sips and Sounds Festival. This is most certainly something a website titled ‘Saving Country Music” MUST address. Not addressing it would be a dereliction of duty. If you don’t want to read it, don’t read it. But it is the very purpose of this website. The amount of review copy posted will not be affected by publishing this article.
As for the timing, I appreciate this concern. However, because of the potential viral nature of this story, and the fact that it was brought to light right before a major holiday and an extended Holiday weekend means that it needed to be addressed immediately. It is unlikely that we will get any kind of detailed explanation about this until next Monday. The vacuum of information or an explanation is what The Hollywood Reporter is trying to take advantage of here to affect the vitality of the story. I rarely post stories at 10:15 pm Central. I deemed it was necessary in this case due to the potential implications on country music at large, and I stand behind that decision.
July 5, 2024 @ 6:10 am
you do know that you dont have to click on any article that doesnt interest you, right? it’s not that hard, just keep scrolling.
July 4, 2024 @ 3:56 am
Do War and Treaty wear clothes made of cotton?
July 4, 2024 @ 5:26 am
That is different. By wearing cotton, they are reclaiming the plant.
July 4, 2024 @ 6:33 am
Their website is selling shirts that are “Screen printed on 100% Cotton”. Given the fact that slave labor is still used to grow and harvest cotton globally (not to mention used in the textile industry as well), I am very curious as to where and under what conditions the cotton used for their merchandise is sourced, and which country or countries are producing these garments.
July 4, 2024 @ 4:48 am
Typo alert: numerous instances of “singed” used when you meant “signed.”
July 4, 2024 @ 5:27 am
Was “High Cotton” by Alabama playing in the dressing room?
July 4, 2024 @ 7:18 am
If this ain’t the dumbest thing I’ll read, all day. Well, note to self, won’t be inviting W & T over. I’m a fan, but I do have cotton decor in my home.
July 4, 2024 @ 5:46 am
Are grocery stores near their concerts still allowed to sell watermelons?
July 4, 2024 @ 6:31 am
Oh, please.
July 4, 2024 @ 6:56 am
Hopefully neither of them opens a new bottle of pills and has to endure that little swab of cotton that is on the top.
July 4, 2024 @ 7:26 am
It’s an all natural floral decoration which requires no water. (yawn)
July 4, 2024 @ 7:30 am
I’ll stick with Dr. Pepper.
July 4, 2024 @ 7:44 am
Hope they never get a chance to play the Cotton Bowl
July 4, 2024 @ 7:53 am
In 10-15 years, the Cotton Bowl and the bowl game will be renamed.
July 4, 2024 @ 8:02 am
Couple of thoughts here. The easiest way to see if this was a purposeful act would be to see what other rooms had in them far as plants go. If a lot of the other rooms had the same type plants as decorations then its essy to see this just as a decorating decision not some racial put down. If they were only put in black peoples rooms then we could have an issue. My second point is unless people quit looking for stuff like this to be offended at, we are never moving past these issues. To me a floral decoration in a room is something i would barely notice. I might notice it more if i found it pretty or ugly but offensive no. I get that they may find the cotton plant as offensive and why but its easy to find things that are offensive if one looks for it. Its usually best to be indifferent to things like s floral setting unless its something you are allergic to but thats a personal thing.
July 4, 2024 @ 8:34 am
Just updated the story with this information as well. According to The War & Treaty, “No other dressing room had it. We were the only black band and regardless of what it is used for in that state it represents something totally different to people who look like us.”
For the record, Devon Gilfillian is Black too, and also played the festival.
July 4, 2024 @ 9:36 am
So if his room didnt have it, then kind of hard to say it was done to offend them because of color. Like i said, sometimes you just have to just smile and move on. This reminds me of a tik tok involving a comedian. His commentary was on people being offended. It was pretty hilarious and this stuff always makes me think of it. Good stuff trigger.
July 4, 2024 @ 8:08 am
I really like these two. They did a great rendition of the national anthem at Stagecoach that had me misty-eyed.
First question – Was that cotton plant bouquet set up in other artists’ dressing rooms too? If so, then it’s highly unlikely to have been placed there intentionally to offend one artist. We can all find things to be offended about on a daily basis. It’s how we deal with that, that counts and complaining about it publicly isn’t always flattering or useful.
I totally see how this could be interpreted as offensive by this artist, that’s valid, but you can’t control other peoples’ unintentional (even intentional) insensitive behavior, only your own mindset. Let other people disturb your mental peace and fortitude and you’ve already lost that fight.
July 4, 2024 @ 8:59 am
Your last paragraph sounds like a Sadhguru lecture.
July 4, 2024 @ 8:53 am
Apologize and move on. No need to turn this into a cancel event.
July 4, 2024 @ 9:05 am
I find this analogous to Van Halen and the brown m&ms.
Are the venue and the backstage people actually paying attention to the needs / wants of the performers? If they’re not aware about the cotton plant decorations are they not aware about other things like electrical requirements and stage safety?
July 5, 2024 @ 9:56 am
Predicting what innocuous bit of decor might offend an artist isn’t the job of the venue and isn’t analogous to your example – except if the artist had this “no cotton plants in the dressing room” requirement on their rider. That doesn’t seem to be the case here.
July 4, 2024 @ 9:43 am
My neighbor uses fluffy milkweed seed pods in flower arrangements. Tammy Wynette picked cotton. (I’m Switzerland here) Yes, cotton was “inexpensive” back when, due to the grotesque practice of slavery. Landowners and the cotton gin and the cotton traders pocketing what they shouldn’t have.
July 4, 2024 @ 10:20 am
Willie Nelson picked cotton. Johnny Cash picked cotton. Many artists from the Depression era grew up picking cotton.
July 4, 2024 @ 3:53 pm
Roy Clark never picked cottton.
July 4, 2024 @ 4:04 pm
But his mother did, and his brother did, and his sister did.
July 5, 2024 @ 6:07 am
What about his daddy?
July 5, 2024 @ 3:09 pm
His daddy never was the Cadillac kind.
July 8, 2024 @ 4:55 pm
Glen Campbell picked cotton.
July 4, 2024 @ 9:52 am
Heaven forbid someone places pussy willow branches, in a dressing room, somewhere.
I like Michael & Tanya Trotter.
Going to give them the benefit of the doubt on this one.
Happy 4th of July, everyone ????????????????
July 4, 2024 @ 10:00 am
I haven’t been able to find the video or the story on Michael Trotter Jr‘s Instagram page. Has it been deleted? Would very much like to view the entire video, if possible. Can anyone provide a link?
July 4, 2024 @ 10:03 am
It was on his Instagram story, so it disappears after 24 hours. I’m sure it lives somewhere, but it really doesn’t show that much. It’s basically a 10-15 scornd clip that shows that it’s indeed their dressing room, and then zooms in on the cotton plant.
July 4, 2024 @ 11:01 am
Thanks. I was under the impression from the HR article that as soon as they entered the dressing room, they saw the cotton plant and immediately reacted. “Trotter explains: “When I demanded that we quickly leave this festival and get out of there…” My question is, why are there two open cans of beer sitting on the same table if they had just entered the room? The full video might provide more context if the dressing room had been in use prior to the video being filmed, which is why I would like to view it.
July 4, 2024 @ 10:40 am
I am going to call this bullshit. Staged. Period.
I am a black American man. I can smell this through my screen and it REEKS, just like with the NASCAR “noose” story. Just like Jussie Smollett.
Time for me to stop listening to “the war and treaty” now. I thought they were better than this.
July 4, 2024 @ 11:09 am
There is a difference between staged (Jussie Smollett), and an overreaction to an everyday item (Bubba Wallace). I think there is just as much of a chance they placed a cotton plant in their dressing room to claim racism as it is that a racist placed a cotton plant in their dressing room to intimidate them. Is it possible? Sure. Is it probable? Not really. That is why we need more details.
If the festival or venue comes back and says they were not the ones that placed the cotton plant, then we have a whole other situation.
July 6, 2024 @ 4:08 am
The update to your article makes them seem even worse to me now.
I appreciate your comment. It was measured and patient in tone. Basically, we needed to wait for more information, as you said, but this just reeked of ridiculous to me. It had a bad stink to it from the very first words I read in your write-up.
They are done. At least in my house. This was unnecessary and immature behavior from War and Treaty and now they want to claim knee-jerk reaction as though it is normal behavior to act before you know for certain that you even need to. Fine. Claim knee-jerk reaction. You just look even WORSE now that you assumed something about innocent people and cried “RACISM” at the very first chance you got.
They were basically trashing a venue and people who did nothing wrong. Why? To attempt to earn sympathy fans and do more damage to Country Music?
Just like Bubbles (not a typo) Wallace and his NASCAR noose. These people try to keep racism alive and they should have no part in society for it. They had a platform and decided to abuse it instead of use it for positive things. They should be feeling great shame for having done this the way they did, plastering it on the online wall where information lives forever. They should retract their nonsense and give a sincere and heartfelt apology. Not that it will change them in my view, but the people they offended for nothing deserve an apology. Right is right. Wrong is wrong.
They can go away now. I have no use for this duo, anymore, than I have for Kane Brown or Tyler Hubbard.
July 4, 2024 @ 11:12 am
Thanks reporting in this, taking it seriously, calling for more details, and giving all parties the benefit of the doubt.
July 4, 2024 @ 11:35 am
Look at the cameras placed around the facility.
Cameras in the hallway, or walkway leading up to the dressing room door(s) that the Trotter’s used, will show all traffic coming and going at the Coca-Cola Sips Fest.
Now we’ll sit back and see what we shall see.
What? … No one saw anything?
No one coming and going from that/those particular dressing rooms brought in a cotton branch bundle?
No problem.
Now go back and look at anything carted into that area, that could have contained a hidden cotton branch bundle.
Then start interrogating everyone who could be responsible for the offending item.
Coca-Cola has extraordinary $ resources to nip this in the bud, right now.
I’ll just be kicked back in my chair, grinning from ear to ear as Coca-Cola sorts this out
July 4, 2024 @ 11:48 am
Oddly enough, the chick is wearing denim pants in the picture you posted.
July 4, 2024 @ 12:08 pm
The story has been updated with a statement from the Sips & Sounds Festival.
July 4, 2024 @ 12:14 pm
Is the slavery plant in the room with us right now?
July 6, 2024 @ 4:09 am
This is a perfect and succinct reply.
July 4, 2024 @ 12:36 pm
“UPDATE: The organizers of the Coca-Cola Sips & Sounds Music Festival have responded to the accusations by The War & Treaty with the following statement.”
“”We are disheartened that the artists were ever uncomfortable at last weekend’s event. There was no purposeful harm intended, and we sincerely apologize. Their concern was met with immediate action, including a heartfelt in-person apology, removal of the decor and a personal conversation with the artists by event organizers to assure them this was an honest mistake. The plant was part of the existing décor utilized by the venue well in advance of this event, long before the space was assigned to any artist and was removed immediately.“”
Oh those spin doctors of the organizers were quick, weren’t they?
They have just inadvertently caused harm to Michael and Tanya Trotter.
I want Dolly Parton out here speaking on behalf of Tanya, & Michael.
This whole “incident” is pure drivel.
Waiting for karma to come around and take a big bite out of the ass(es) of all morons involved in this nothingness.
July 6, 2024 @ 7:56 am
Harm? They were harmed? The definition of harm is literally physical injury. You’re using words you don’t even know the meanings of. You should probably keep your opinions to yourself if you can’t grasp the English language well enough to not make yourself sound like the average mainstream media consoomer .
July 6, 2024 @ 9:08 am
I think Di was being sarcastic.
July 6, 2024 @ 4:36 pm
Ryan, you are one stupid son of a bitch, aren’t you.
I said exactly what I meant.
Am very concerned with the harm this story might cause Tanya and Michael.
Merriam-Webster
harm
1 of 2
noun
ˈhärm
Synonyms of harm
1
: physical or mental damage : INJURY
the amount of harm sustained by the boat during the storm
2
: MISCHIEF, HURT
I meant you no harm.
Anytime you want to throw down and go toe to toe with the English language, you just let me know.
July 4, 2024 @ 1:36 pm
“ I didn’t want to sit in there and educate because it’s not my position to educate anybody on what cotton is and what it represents in this country. It just shouldn’t happen. Beyond it just being about racism, it’s broader now. It’s now a safety issue…”
“ Anybody with melanin in their skin, you have to provide an environment of safety for them.”
“ Between the years 1820 and 1860, approximately 80 percent of the global cotton supply was produced in the United States. Nearly all the exported cotton was shipped to Great Britain, fueling its burgeoning textile industry and making the powerful British Empire increasingly dependent on American cotton and southern slavery.” – lumenlearning.com
Ironically, the textile industries in both the “free” States in the US and in post-slavery Great Britain relied entirely on black slave labor. Similarly today, approximately 80 percent of the world’s supply of both coltan and cobalt, used to produce lithium batteries in all cell phones, come from the Democratic Republic of Congo – much of which is produced by child slave labor. But, apparently, War and Treaty have no problem owning cell phones and using them to document how “unsafe” they felt because of the physical presence of a plant in their cushy ass private dressing room here in America.
“Michael says. “Yes, it’s a safety issue, but it is bigger than that. It is a humane problem.”
Hypocrisy: The Fabric of Our Lives.
July 4, 2024 @ 3:28 pm
I bet most of their clothes are cotton.
July 6, 2024 @ 4:27 am
Now tell the history of who bought the slaves from the African warlords and sold them to the Dutch and Muslim slave traders who then had them brought to the colonies and all kinds of other places around the world.
Then tell the story about American Black slave owners. This one always seems to sneak past you race baiting types who think it was only White men who owned slaves when plenty of Black men also owned slaves.
Then tell the story about Anthony Johnson who came, like many others, to America as an indentured servant and who eventually worked off his debt, became “free” and had his own land and slaves. Tell the folks here the history of this Black man who sued to keep one of his slaves who ran away. Hint: He won his lawsuit.
Then tell the history of White Irish Catholic slaves in America which didn’t end until almost 1900.
I’m a Black American man. Sadly for most, I realized early on that education in this area is both lacking and necessary and a lot of this stuff is hidden from history books. Teachers overlook it. People obfuscate the fact that Black Americans in the slave days also owned black slaves, just like the African Warlords who sold them in the first place.
Tell complete history if you are going to tell it at all. Otherwise, you are race baiting and nothing else.
July 6, 2024 @ 9:08 am
Jimmy,
One of the best posts of 2024.
Who are your favorite country singers?
July 8, 2024 @ 2:23 pm
That is a tougher question to answer than many people realize.
I enjoy a lot of older country, but have never truly pinned down favorites. I more listen at it with a “this isn’t pop, it fits the genre and doesn’t suck” sort of ear.
I enjoy some newer things and am guilty of singing along with Morgan Wallen or even JellyRoll as it is catchy enough, but most of it I detest (I am looking at you Kane Brown and Maren Morris and Kelsea Ballerini and Dustin Lynch) because it all seems to want to straddle a line that it shouldn’t be trying to straddle in the first place. They should just come to grips with being pop and stop polluting the Country Music genre.
I enjoy some Zach Bryan, Charley Crockett, Hank Sr, Pride, Haggard, and more.
It’s such a great genre with a lot of amazing musicians and vocalists. In my opinion, Country Music has the most talented vocalists out of any genre of music from both men AND women.
I replied the way I did because people like to push this crap while ignoring all of the finer and more nuanced details of slavery. Most African slaves were brought here or stowed away to get here and were, indeed, indentured servants. That is not the same as direct slavery. The person I replied to is clearly clueless in this regard because they mention NOTHING of the estimated 15-20 million slaves currently held (read: owned) all over Africa TODAY. They mention NOTHING of it while wearing their hearts on their sleeves and trying to sound like a friend to Black America by blaming White people for a past none of them lived.
White people are unfairly attacked for a past (and present) that literally ALL races have a part in. I hate injustice no matter the source.
July 8, 2024 @ 5:47 pm
You must be new to this blog. I have addressed contemporary slavery in Africa previously, as well as current slavery world wide – many times. I am well aware of the various ethnicities of America slave owners historically. Not sure if you confused my statements with that of War and Treaty; in either case, all the best. – Coat
July 6, 2024 @ 10:01 am
There is no doubt that the American South has been wholly saddled for the sin of slavery by the rest of the world to absolve other countries and regions for their role, in part because the South lost a war over it, and the winners always get to tell the story. It’s also true that the slavery issue deserves more detail and nuance than it ever receives.
But let’s not allow all of that to make us overlook the scourge that chattel slavery was, and why it is considered such a sin at the heart of America. At some point it would be nice to move on from that history, similar to how Germany has moved on from its Nazi past. But it’s also important that we never forget that history lest we’re bound to repeat it.
July 8, 2024 @ 6:02 pm
@Coat
You must be full of yourself to think I am going to go out and try to find your replies to these stories just to see what you have posted previously. I am not new here.
If you are going to mention it [slavery in the Americas] at all, mention it all. Otherwise, go race bait elsewhere as YOU are part of the “racism” problem in this country and why it will not go away.
Again, tell me about who ran >70% of the slave trade back then when it comes to buying and selling from African warlords. I will wait to see if you have your history correct. Be careful because if you do not have this part of history correct, then you are little educated on this subject.
July 8, 2024 @ 9:02 pm
“You must be full of yourself to think I am going to go out and try to find your replies to these stories just to see what you have posted previously.”
“ Be careful because if you do not have this part of history correct, then you are little educated on this subject.”
My original post had something to do with hypocrisy…
July 4, 2024 @ 3:52 pm
It’s ironic that people are using their phones to comment about how “outrageous” it is that a cotton plant was in that dressing room because of the blatant abstract connotations to slavery, WHILE everyone’s phone has a lithium battery with materials mined from the Congo by modern day slaves.
July 4, 2024 @ 6:18 pm
The only slavery that matters in modern America is the one outlawed since 1865.
July 4, 2024 @ 4:02 pm
They didn’t feel safe because of a cotton plant? This has all all the hallmarks of a fake outrage cheap publicity stunt. Next.
July 4, 2024 @ 6:42 pm
Someone put saltine crackers on a confernce table at my company. I am drafting a response now.
July 5, 2024 @ 4:17 pm
This is pure gold! I’m howling.
July 4, 2024 @ 4:31 pm
My wife decorates homes and offices. This type of plant is very much in style and has been for a bit. I have been with her when she bought some. This is a bit over-the-top reaction, but I am Caucasian and I cannot understand what others may go through.
I will just say that their response will not be a positive for them, but I wish them well. Great talents.
July 4, 2024 @ 6:51 pm
One solution is not to invite the War & Treaty to your venue, because you do not want to offend them
July 4, 2024 @ 8:10 pm
And then they’d piss and moan and cry racism because they weren’t getting booked. People like this see a racism in everything, and plants, apparently. Ffs.
July 4, 2024 @ 8:07 pm
Really? Nothing to see here but a thinned skin duo looking for something, anything to be offended by. “Hey, someone left a cotton sweater in our dressing room. Racism!” Grow the fuck up.
July 4, 2024 @ 10:21 pm
These racism claims are getting out of hand.
July 5, 2024 @ 10:11 am
That’s intentional.
July 5, 2024 @ 3:22 am
I know that I’ve commented a lot already on this but I was thinking more about this. What is profoundly annoying about this whole thing is how War and Treaty did not accept the explanation/apology from the venue that the cotton plant in the dressing room was random, and not intentional. They are behaving as if the venue people not catching that common decor piece as being potentially offensive to them is equally as bad as someone putting it there on purpose with racial intent. If this wasn’t true they would have graciously admitted that they misread the situation and moved on. They posted the original photo so it doesn’t matter that their supporters did most of the fighting. They are co-signing it by not speaking up in defense of the venue. Jussie Smollett and Bubba Wallace never apologized when it was found out that their racial outrage was wrong. They only acted dissapointed that it didn’t benefit them more. Hopefully War and Treaty do the right thing, but if they don’t I will be on the side that is indifferent if they have to go back to working regular day jobs.
The old adage rings true here: “Just because you are offended, it doesn’t make you right.”
July 5, 2024 @ 8:46 am
I will say this:
I think this was a PR and journalism bungle by the folks involved in how this incident was shared with the public. If we’re to believe the organizers, they addressed the issue in real time, apologized, and worked to rectify it. The War & Treaty must have known about this, and this information did not make it into the original Hollywood Reporter story. It is a common journalist practice when you think you have a hot story to reach out to someone for comment an hour or two before before planning to publish, knowing they won’t have an opportunity to respond before you publish. But the information that the organizers did address the issue and gave an explanation needed to be part of this story.
Also, if they had published a more holistic story about how the band was outraged when they saw the cotton plant, WHY they were outraged, and used it as a teachable moment about the triggering nature of being Black in America, I could have gotten behind it. Instead, it feels like an opportunistic, low information hit piece pandering for clicks.
I like The War & Treaty. I have advocated for them and featured their music on this website numerous times. I think they’re an important act for instilling the actual diversity in country music folks clamor for that doesn’t come at the expense of the roots and authenticity of the music.
I don’t like the Coca-Cola Sips & Sounds Festival. I directly called out their terrible curation ahead of the event in another article, and the corporate branding is off putting.
But I agree that I think this is going to hurt The War & Treaty in the long term, and won’t affect the festival. This issue is going to come up every time The War & Treaty’s name does, just like we see with Tyler Childers, Jason Isbell, etc., which is unfortunate.
What I’ll also say is that this issue did not blow up like I feared or expected. Even a lot of the regular bandwagoners when it comes to race and country music are curiously silent. I think that’s because when you look into this, it feels like a nothing burger. Ironically, this might work in The War & Treaty’s favor.
July 5, 2024 @ 1:47 pm
War and Treaty should have thought twice before posting that picture stating they were hurt and angered. Bands are their own PR and journalism because of social media. It’s one thing to misread a situation and overreact, but a sincere apology for overreacting will be accepted by almost everyone. People fully in social justice echo chambers don’t understand that almost all of us outside that bubble find what triggers them as laughable.
I’ve worked multiple jobs where some black coworkers CONSTANTLY looked for anything racial. One dude got pissed and kept explaining why a picnic has connotations to slavery. Getting mad at a plant and expecting sympathy for their traumatic experience as tied to people who lived 200 years before them, is not going to garner sympathy from the right people. It’s going to make music organizers think twice about which diversity act they want to hire.
July 5, 2024 @ 4:57 am
This is so exhausting. Where I live (and a lot of other places across the south) there is an informally “blacks only” museum/ music hall/ cultural center. Guess what it’s called? The Cotton Club. Cause it’s cool when it’s a symbol of your heritage (wut?!?) or your survival or your ancestral strength or attachment to the land. A real salt of the earth vibe. Of course this is speculation on my part cause it would be very uncool of me to go in there without a black friend to escort- gotta prove your allyship prior to entry you know? Meanwhile when stopping at the grocery store across the street this here white guy has been snickered at and told “mayonnaise is that way” when trying to get some ribs from the butcher. Wonder if the statute of limitations is up on that or if I can tell the national enquirer they need to run a story about how bad my feelings are hurt? Never mind- happens every day in liberal utopia! Spit at, cussed at, beer bottles thrown at, black kids jumping off the sidewalk and kicking the door panels on my pickup for daring to have my windows down piping out Marty Robbins tunes on “their” side of town, people calling me whitey or cracker. Whatever.
July 5, 2024 @ 5:52 am
the real crime, is that someone actually took the time to apologize to these buffoons’. sounds like the Bubba Watson noose incident from a few years ago all over again. goes to show, if you spend all of your time looking for racism, you’re bound to find it. Even in places where it doesn’t exist.
July 5, 2024 @ 6:13 am
If you believe any of this feigned outrage, someone’s pulled the wool…er…cotton, over your eyes.
July 5, 2024 @ 6:20 am
lol at ck (and everyone else) spending their july 4th telling marginalized people they are wrong.
gosh bless the u s and a.
July 5, 2024 @ 9:34 am
These folks are professional entertainers who literally sell cotton. They are able to make a profit at $30 a shirt because the people in other countries who actually make them don’t get jack shit. Who’s really marginalized here? I guess I was supposed to just get drunk and watch stuff explode.
July 5, 2024 @ 9:52 am
wait, i thought we were pro-capitalism around here? or we’re only pro-capitalism when they’re white?
July 5, 2024 @ 10:03 am
Folks are still pro-capitalist.
We are just pointing out their hypocrisy. If cotton is that triggering and overwhelming, how can they sell and wear it? Especially when modern cotton in some cases is picked by slaves.
July 5, 2024 @ 9:57 am
I spent ten minutes in-between family dinners and fireworks to fire off some thoughts.
It was a great use of my freedoms to point out how contrived and silly this incident is.
July 5, 2024 @ 10:07 am
time stamps say otherwise bub. logged in at least five times to read and comment. on our nation’s birthday too.
July 5, 2024 @ 10:18 am
Periods don’t go in the middle of sentences.
Firstly, no one logs into SCM. Secondly, I refreshed the website for 10 minutes. That is basically nothing during the course of 24 hours.
Are you the Fourth of July celebration police?
Please bring some salient points to this discussion.
July 5, 2024 @ 10:21 am
No more comments on this thread.
July 5, 2024 @ 7:07 am
In 2024,Country music continues to seem unwelcoming to black artists,as this cotton plant incident which happened to War&Treaty seems to drive home.
July 5, 2024 @ 9:28 am
Do these people own cotton sheets or clothing of any sort? Does that make them racist or hypocritical? Or ignorant?
I am sick and tired of the knee jerk reaction of these professional victims.
The venue stated that the decor was there before the lineup was even set.
I don’t imagine that the individuals responsible for dressing room assignments were even aware of the room decor.
This is a big nothing burger.
As for Ballerini and Morris and their bee sting lips and slutty outfits, the only venue that suits them is Only Fans.
July 5, 2024 @ 9:43 am
The most unfortunate thing about this story is not the incident itself, nor is it the B-list Hollywood overaction by the The War and Treaty. The incident is unimportant in the context of Country music, and utterly irrelevant in the context of the world, and we’re all accustomed to blacks acting like babies every time they think they’ve been a victim of something.
The most unfortunate thing about this story is the ankle grabbing by pasty, white, numb-nutted doofuses like Trigger, who are seemingly in a perpetually race to prove how much they love black people. Unlike the inner-school Communists who use black people as a weapon against civil society, the normies like Trig actually believe the narratives and become enslaved by them.
Mark my words, if Trigger thought he could convince the world he loves black people by doing a “blacks only” prison tour, he would do it in a heartbeat.
July 5, 2024 @ 10:00 am
Honky,
You have returned. We just need Adrian, Clint, Eric (the Taylor Swift fan), RD, Lil Dale, and IceColdCountry to return.
SCM has lost some notable commentators over the years.
July 5, 2024 @ 10:26 am
I’ve never left. I just haven’t been commenting as much because it’s been mostly album reviews and concert announcements for most of the Summer….snoozefest.
July 5, 2024 @ 10:51 am
Mike Honcho and Fuzzy as well.
July 5, 2024 @ 9:55 am
“ThErE cAn’T bE rAcIsM bEcAuSe ThEy WeAr PaNtS aNd ShIrTs”
– every idiot in this thread
July 5, 2024 @ 10:24 am
Note the Strawman, and Motte & Bailey fallacies the Communist deploys without even thinking about it. Lying is ingrained in them the same way breathing is ingrained in actual humans.
Motte: “Racism exists.”
Bailey: “Cotton plants as decor are racist.”
Actual argument being made normal humans: “This incident wasn’t racist, and I’m going to make fun of the comical overreaction by bringing up cotton clothes.”
Communist Strawman: “I can’t believe you all are saying racism doesn’t exist. Everybody knows there are some racists in the world.”
July 5, 2024 @ 12:21 pm
Yeah as far as I understand it, the cotton clothes point is about letting common every day items send you into a meltdown. If it’s a common decoration plant, why not other common clothing items, or as someone else pointed out, watermelon at nearby store? Silly as these whataboutist arguments sound, there are some valid points there. Whether or not they are with discussing is subjective, but NOBODY said “there can’t be racism because they wear pants and shirts.” If that’s the best “argument” he can make about this incident or the comments, then I guess that says something itself. Or wait, was his best point that people were posting on the 4th about “marginalized” people?? I can’t decide, either way I guess the fact that he’s not actually defending the “disturbing” allegation itself is telling.
I’m used to and have mostly written off the straw man, reddit regurgitated talking points from such commenters, but I’m a little disappointed that Trigger called this “disturbing” before even knowing what happened. That said, I still give him credit for sticking his next out by questioning the incident and the possibility of it being a “nothing burger” at all. He may not say everything exactly as the anti-communist attack that you would like, but he’s at least willing to question the narrative, consider an unpopular stance, and take the heat for it as a non-anonymous, public person. Thanks for the introduction to the motte-and-bailey fallacy, I was unfamiliar.
July 5, 2024 @ 1:15 pm
As I have attempted to explain ad nauseum at this point, what I found disturbing, and what I think the majority of the public would find disturbing is if someone purposely placed a cotton plant in the dressing to racially taunt The War & Treaty as they asserted in their accusation. What was also mentioned in the title of the article and led it off is how “More Details [Were] Needed” to clarify, substantiate, and/or verify the claim, which is what the article is about. Not sure why we’re getting so hung up on one word.
July 5, 2024 @ 3:37 pm
You say all that but you also wrote “Even if the placing of the cotton plant was completely inadvertent, it doesn’t diminish the duo’s experience that clearly has left them rattled and disturbed in a way that the country music community should not tolerate.”
So…how is the country music community supposed to “not tolerate” the inadvertent racist plant? How are we going to tackle this? You got a plan? Or am I misunderstanding this and just “hung up” on “semantics” here too?
And BTW even if some rogue employee deliberately put it there….does ONE loser’s action supersede the THOUSANDS of people (I assume mostly white), that support them? The festivals that put them on the lineup, (arguably sometimes not in spite of their melanin but because of it)? All the opportunities a guilt ridden country obsessed with diversity is willing to throw a them? Even if this was the worst case scenario, would blowing it up out of proportion help anything? Or is Honky right and the irrational outrage is all intentional?
July 5, 2024 @ 4:28 pm
“I think the majority of the public would find disturbing is if someone purposely placed a cotton plant in the dressing to racially taunt The War & Treaty as they asserted in their accusation.”
I agree, but I think most clear-headed people see this for what it really is, professional victims, as someone else called them, doing what professional victims do best, looking for something to be offended by.
The only people who are believing this nonsense are the virtue signalling assholes who are perpetual victims themselves. This whole story is bullshit.
July 5, 2024 @ 11:09 am
thegentile…. “Pants and shirts” made out of….CoTtOn….(you’ve got to include that word to make your post truly snarky)
July 5, 2024 @ 10:00 am
Have heard of this duo on this site but am not familiar with their material so I went through Blank Page, Have You A Heart, Five More Minutes and Stealing a Kiss. Sounds like beautiful soul music with some gospel influence.
I’m interested in their country material and would appreciate any suggestions on the country front. Thank you
July 5, 2024 @ 10:06 am
I would start with “Yesterday’s Burn,” which was nominated for the Saving Country Music Single of the Year in 2023.
July 5, 2024 @ 2:17 pm
I hate to say it, but if the convicted felon wins in November episodes like this will be a lot more common.
July 5, 2024 @ 4:33 pm
Hahahahaha. Convicted Felon is going to win, and once his conviction is overturned, he will no longer be a convict, and all the TDS suffers are going to melt down. Anyway, this is a music site, go to Facebook and spew your lies and bullshit.
July 5, 2024 @ 4:30 pm
If the festival organizers had removed the cotton ahead of time, and War and Treaty found out, would W&T (1) be grateful to the organizers for sparing them from the cotton or (2) be outraged that the festival organizers thought they were so fragile that they couldn’t handle a little cotton decor?
July 6, 2024 @ 7:50 am
It’s like when that nascar driver Bubba Sparx or whatever that morons name is found a “noose” hanging in a garage, cried racism, only for it to be found that that rope was there the long before he was and is used to open the garage door. These people WANT to be oppressed SO BAD. Why?!
Time to kick all these brain dead crybaby marxists to the curb.
July 6, 2024 @ 9:49 am
This may be the most depressing thread I’ve ever read on SCM. I appreciate that Trigger opened it with a nuanced, balanced analysis of a story with (as he made clear) only limited information behind it. Balance and nuance, however, are not qualities some of our fellow citizens want to bring to discussions about racial matters.
“Brain dead crybaby marxists [sic],” anyone? Sigh. Can’t we shut down this clown show?
July 7, 2024 @ 10:25 am
Unfortunetly stories bring out the known midwits on this page. People who typically don’t add anything to the concversation and wait around for a possibly contentious topic. Commenters that mention “woke”, and”Communists” start gnashing their teeth and wringing their hands in hopes of sucking people into their sad lives. Somehow they confuse this page with Twitter and seem to think the bullshit they post here resonates on this page.
July 10, 2024 @ 5:27 am
The only clowns here are the War and Treaty, and the goofballs pretending some big bad scary “RaCiSm” occurred.
July 7, 2024 @ 1:17 pm
This is idiotic.
It’s one thing if there were an objectively racist symbol or slur directed at “War and Treaty.” There was not. What’s the point of them taking this random occurrence–a decorative plant left on a table–and making a racial incident out of it?
Seriously, I would expect that the only effect of this would be that a future concert promoter would shy away from booking them simply to AVOID the possibility of being accused of racism over some other unforseeable-but-innocuous incident.
It’s not worth the trouble.
July 8, 2024 @ 9:58 am
Do they wear cotton clothing? IF SO – and we know they do – they need to shut up because it’s hypocritical to feel victimized by SEEING cotton but not feel VICTIMIZED by WEARING cotton.
July 8, 2024 @ 8:52 pm
It’s definitely a PR stunt. They went from the initial Hollywood Reporter to a full on People magazine article. Case closed. https://people.com/the-war-and-treaty-felt-betrayed-after-finding-cotton-plant-in-dressing-room-8673974
July 8, 2024 @ 10:26 pm
I had respect for them which is now lost. I appreciate their feelings but going public with it, especially in the Hollywood Reporter ????, seems very calculated and playing into the current race narratives being employed in this country. Would have understood if they took it up with the producers of the show directly as I’m sure it was unintentional and a bit petty of them to blow it up. When I hear things like this I can’t help but think of the biggest victims in the history of the United States: Native Americans. Literally everything could and often should be offensive to them, from the flag to currency to the government. Everything. But these folks feel the need to take some decor to one of Hollywood’s biggest publications. Obviously not Tammy fans? ????????♀️