On Margo Price Calling Out Luke Combs for Confederate Flag Use

Let’s first unequivocally establish that the time of the Confederate flag has come and gone. And despite the consternation some might feel at this conclusion, the assessment is nonetheless final. You may want to rattle on about how it symbolizes heritage and not hate, and for sure the symbol shouldn’t be completely scrubbed from all recollection lest we lose touch with the critical lessons the American Civil War continues to confer to us today, which perhaps are more crucial to heed than ever in this contentious moment in history. But the stars and bars are just seen as offensive to too many people to be rehabilitated or reconciled at this time.
But we also can’t judge individuals and moments in the past with the perspective, sensibilities, and customs of today. The State of Mississippi didn’t officially remove the emblem from their state flag until a couple of weeks ago—January 11th, 2021. That means that in 2021, schools, state buildings, banks, churches, post offices, court houses, city halls, and other establishments were flying this symbol, not to mention other entrenched institutions throughout the South where the decommissioning of the Confederate flag even in official capacities has been a slow, but steady process.
That observation is not to excuse anything. But it must be understood that individuals who were born and raised in environments where the Confederate flag was prominent and accepted have a different perspective than those that were born and raised in environments where it was immediately seen as racist.
On Monday, February 1st, Luke Combs released a new bluegrass song with fast-rising bluegrass flatpicker Billy Strings called “The Great Divide,” which attempts to address the increasing dissonance in American society that only seems to grow louder by the day. Part of a greater bluegrass project Luke Combs has in the works, Combs wanted to release the song now as an answer to the acrimonious mood of the current moment.
“I thought now was a good time to put this song out with everything that has been and is going on in the world,” Combs said in part. “It isn’t meant to be political or try and tell you what to think or believe; that’s not my job. It’s just me saying how I felt when I wrote it and I wanted y’all to hear it.”
Performer Margo Price took exception to the Luke Combs comment, quote tweeting his statement and saying, “when people say ‘they don’t want to be political’… smdh” and posting two images of Luke Combs with a Confederate flag sticker on his guitar, another with a Confederate flag looming in the background, and a fourth with Combs making a “3” symbol with his hand, taken from a performance on Saturday Night Live in February 2020.

As these things tend to do, the Tweet went viral, with many commenters chiming in criticizing not just Luke Combs, but Billy Strings for agreeing to the collaboration. But of course, these images are missing critically important context.
First, as far as the supposed “white power” symbol of Luke Combs making a “3” with his fingers, this is very easily debunked. If you watch the live performance of Luke Combs performing his song “Lovin’ On You” from SNL, it’s clear he’s making the symbol when he speaks the lyric, “Three chords and the truth…” Portraying the gesture as anything else—especially as a white power symbol—is irresponsible. Furthermore, multiple controversies stemming from similar opportunistic screenshots have been roundly debunked, with the actual instances of individuals making the gesture as a true effort to convey white power being few and far between.
As for the sticker on Luke’s guitar, it’s from a guitar Combs has not played in some five years, as is the screenshot of him with a Confederate flag looming in the distance. It’s also probably fair to point out that the Confederate symbol on his guitar is from a business bumper sticker, not an autonomous Confederate flag emblem, and the screenshot is from a video that he was a guest on, not the featured artist.
It’s also not fair to downplay Luke’s past embrace of the Confederate symbol. To be frank, these images presented by Margo Price only tell half of it. In 2015, Luke Combs collaborated with country rap artist Upchurch on the song and video for “Can I Get A Outlaw.” The video for the song is an outright Confederate flag parade, with Confederate flags purposely strewn throughout the video, and where the one screenshot from the Margo Price tweet comes from.
However, it is very important to contextualize that Luke Combs has completely scrubbed Confederate flags from his image, and for many years now—a critically important point not relayed by Margo Price’s tweet. If nothing else, this should exonerate Billy Strings from having to answer for anything. It’s extremely unlikely Billy Strings had any knowledge of these photos before choosing to collaborate with Combs.
But the biggest question here is if Luke Combs is some sort of racist, as is implied by the Margo Price tweet. Aside from some photos taken from his past, there’s just no evidence of such. In fact, the evidence is to the contrary.
First, Luke Combs has clearly distanced from these Confederate symbols, and specifically from the Upchurch collaboration. In 2016, representatives for Luke Combs reached out to Upchurch and asked for Luke’s name to be removed from the “Can I Get An Outlaw” track and video, and specifically cited the reason for the request as being Luke Combs no longer wanting to be associated with the imagery present in the collaboration. Ultimately, that request was granted. For his part, Upchurch has distanced from Luke Combs, regularly calling Combs out on social media for being a sellout and not sticking to his country roots.
Meanwhile, the collaborations and friendships Luke Combs has forged over the last five years paint a completely different picture from the one Margo Price wants to portray with her tweet of old photos. In 2018, Luke Combs participated in a cross collaboration with throwback R&B/Americana artist Leon Bridges, where Bridges sang on a version of Luke’s “Beautiful Crazy,” and Luke sang on a version of Leon’s song “Beyond.” On the expanded version of Luke’s current album What You See Is What You Get, he collaborates with Amanda Shires on the song “Without You.”
Are we supposed to now judge black artist Leon Bridges for working with Luke, similar to how many are lashing out at Billy Strings? Or how about Amanda Shires, who might be one of the most politically outspoken artists in Americana?
The context is completely missing from Margo Price’s tweet, as we see with so many viral moments. In fact, it’s the lack of context and truth that sends them viral. The true story of Luke Combs and the Confederate flag should be one of renouncement and reconciliation. Was the scrubbing of the stars and bars from his past partly the effort of major label image consultants not wanting to impinge on Luke’s commercial applicability moving forward? It very likely was. But portraying these images as a present-day representation of Luke Combs is patently false.
Furthermore, renouncing everyone who may have an image of the Confederate flag associated with them in their past is a very dangerous exercise. Emmylou Harris and Gram Parsons performed in front of a Confederate flag. Johnny Cash and other country artists performed in front of Confederate flags as part of a common set adornment on The Muppets. Tom Petty had an entire stage setup and album release incorporating the Confederate flag. Confederate flags adorn the cover of the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band’s iconic album Will The Circle Be Unbroken, counterbalanced by American ones. All of this symbology may make modern perspectives uncomfortable, but few would argue Emmylou Harris, Tom Petty, and Johnny Cash are racists.
But Luke’s use of the Confederate flag is not really what Margo Price is raging against here. She’s simply weaponizing these images to cut his legs off, undermine his position, and create a viral moment. Her true concern is that Luke Combs said about his new song with Billy Strings, “It isn’t meant to be political or try and tell you what to think or believe; that’s not my job.”
The prevailing ideology among a strident group of artists and journalists on Twitter believes its an imperative that artists speak out politically. In fact to many, that’s the entire point of covering or discussing country and roots music. It’s an attempt to assuage the public towards their political ideologies through the conduit of country music media coverage. An artist saying “That’s not my job,” and especially in the context of a song meant to bridge differences instead of define and exacerbate them is damaging to the cause of dividing and conquering the country music pubic, and polarizing fans to generate clicks, and interest in the music and media brands of individuals.
Presenting old images in an attempt to either discredit or deplatform Luke Combs or his opinions is underhanded due to Luke’s recent behavior. It has also created collateral damage in the form of a backlash towards Billy Strings that is completely undeserved.
Perhaps Luke Combs should be pressed to answer for his previous uses of the Confederate flag. Saving Country Music reached out to Luke’s representatives for a statement, and has yet to hear back. But public shaming is not the way to reconcile these issues, or to build consensus behind the idea of removing offensive symbols from the music sphere, especially when the ire of this viral moment is someone who had already removed them from his public image himself over half a decade ago.
February 3, 2021 @ 11:29 am
Kinda wish that people understood that distorting the truth in order to ruin someone’s reputation is called Calumny, a major sin in all the worlds religions.
February 3, 2021 @ 3:15 pm
The “holier than thou” attitude resonating from people like Maren Morris and Margo Price is irritating. I can’t stand either of their personalities; they sound like total narcissists sometimes. I hope the shit they love to sling will come hurling back at their faces one of these days.
February 3, 2021 @ 4:55 pm
It will. It always seems to do so with these type of miserable people. Just wait.
February 3, 2021 @ 7:12 pm
Maren Morris especially, because she doesn’t even have half-decent music to back up her bullshit. Really bugs me to see certain people with opinions I otherwise respect defend her just because she’s from Texas.
February 3, 2021 @ 7:39 pm
Yeah….even if we say the heritage argument sucks and the flag is pure evil (I don’t think it’s so absolute but I do lean towards not celebrating it), and even if we think the hand gesture was legitimately intentional (which I doubt it was)…..even if the worst case scenario about those pictures is true…the preachy grandstanding is so transparent and pathetic, it’s actually becoming somewhat amusing to me. They’re not out to change hearts and minds, or to actually make any situation better for anyone other than themselves.
February 4, 2021 @ 11:32 pm
Jake Cutter’s, ye ole General Joseph O. Shelby. Can’t quite decide what the morality is when it comes to the banner for slavery.
February 5, 2021 @ 7:35 pm
Nope, and you’re trying too hard.
May 11, 2021 @ 7:49 am
Luke Combs is a Confederate flag flying White Supremacist .
May 11, 2021 @ 8:41 am
Are you sure about that? The issue might be a lot more complicated. Here’s an article I found online about it:
https://savingcountrymusic.com/on-margo-price-calling-out-luke-combs-for-confederate-flag-use/
February 3, 2021 @ 11:30 am
Hilarious that she is only magnifying how true their song is.
February 3, 2021 @ 11:39 am
I hope this irony isn’t lost on people as it is on her.
February 3, 2021 @ 1:20 pm
What’s that expression…”Wish in one hand….”
February 3, 2021 @ 11:32 am
American celebrities, personalities, and netizens are outwoking each other. It’s a contest on who’s the most self-righteous and faultless of them all.
February 3, 2021 @ 3:28 pm
yeah, you are right..that’s the biggest problem we have in America right now. That racists and assholes can’t get away with their bullshit anymore without consequences. Pay no attention to the white supremacy problem and the fact that a huge chunk of our country believes conspiracy theory lies so much they’d like to overthrow the government.
February 4, 2021 @ 9:14 am
I’m assuming you’ve never met Luke Combs, much less had a sincere conversation with him or the chance to get to know him and his character. But sure, a few out of context photos are enough to be judge and jury that he is a racist and an asshole. Checks out. What a healthy society we live in.
February 4, 2021 @ 12:24 pm
I really hate that people aren’t bright enough to believe that somebody that disagrees with them isn’t evil. Government is inherently evil; which is why the Constitution was designed to protect us, and not the other way around.
February 4, 2021 @ 3:06 pm
This country doesn’t have a white supremacy problem. But the media tells you it does. And twitter tells you it does. And then you believe it.
February 6, 2021 @ 7:11 pm
It’s out there. There’s groups of them gaining traction and publicity. The fact it exists means it’s a problem.
April 10, 2021 @ 9:56 am
There will always be groups out there. No question, but these people are not powerful and aren’t gaining traction. They’re deteriorating.
Meanwhile, leftist groups like antifa are creating mass chaos and are shielded from scrutiny by the government.
February 12, 2022 @ 11:52 pm
Self righteous silly woman
February 3, 2021 @ 11:33 am
I’m just curious to see the differences in the comments here vs the Morgan Wallen article.
February 3, 2021 @ 11:54 am
Fuck Morgan and fuck Margo.
February 3, 2021 @ 3:31 pm
Also, fuck Maren Morris… and Bitchell Tenpenny… and Florida Georgia Line…
…I’m just gonna stop there, this list is gonna be too long to type out.
February 3, 2021 @ 11:37 am
Anybody know the context of Luke Combs tweet “She’s a jungle Asian not a Math Asian”?
February 3, 2021 @ 11:54 am
We’d need to know how many lights the Asian ran before we’d know it’s true context.
February 3, 2021 @ 11:59 am
That’s a tweet from 2012, basically when he was a college dumbass (like a lot of us were colleges dumbasses), where he is clearly quoting someone. He probably doesn’t even remember what it was about.
And, regardless, he has clearly changed, whether it be for true or cynical reasons. But he has genuinely “reached across the aisle.”
February 3, 2021 @ 1:18 pm
He made reference to DJ Pauly C in the tweet. Looks like he might have been quoting him.
But who goes back 8 years to find damaging tweets of as peer?
February 3, 2021 @ 1:46 pm
Liza. It happens all the time. Some go back 10, 12, years. Then pick and choose tweets to create a narrative. Sometimes they are just dumbass posts. In Jimmy Kimmel and Jimmy Fallon’s case it was almost 20 years. But People grow and change and that is seldom taken into consideration. (This doesn’t seem to be the case with Morgan). But I agree with you regarding a peer doing it. I just don’t know what Margo wanted to accomplish. If she had an issue with him take it up privately.
February 3, 2021 @ 2:11 pm
I know this is going to sound a little conspiratorial, but Margo Price did not do the research on her tweets. Someone else did, and fed it to her. There is an active community on Twitter to destroy the lives and careers of men in country music under the misguided notion that the only way that women will ever be able to get ahead is to destroy men.
February 3, 2021 @ 2:30 pm
Boy, would I love to see a post with more details about this.
February 3, 2021 @ 2:37 pm
Lol, for real? I was thinking, wow, did Margo herself get all those images of Combs together and crop/arrange them nicely like that just for a tweet? I mean, it wouldn’t take more than a few minutes to do, but the pettiness of her doing that herself cracks me up. Betting she’s got a personal assistant who does it for her.
February 3, 2021 @ 3:05 pm
I think it’s more likely that it’s just the cool, cynical, self righteous people thinking that they are showing themselves to be more awesome when they are really just acting shallow and juvenile. I don’t think any of them think about it past the performative action.
February 3, 2021 @ 5:07 pm
Wow, Trigger. That’s quite a conspiracy theory you presented there about women in country music. I have serious doubts about it. People pass on other tweets because it’s easy and most are too lazy to research it. Women have been calling out racist, bigoted men since Goodbye Earl. Toby Kieth comes to mind. Your research and defense of Luke seems a valid point of view, and Margo might even agee if she reads this. But it’s not a conspiracy to demean male country musicians.
February 3, 2021 @ 5:19 pm
Tom,
That’s not a “conspiracy about women in country music.” It’s an evidence and information-based conclusion that is very plausible about a few women who work on Twitter to deplatform men. I’m not saying this is Maren Morris or Kelsea Ballerini. I’m saying there are a few radical outliers who are actively attempting to destroy the careers of men with misinformation. I have very intimate knowledge of this because I’ve been a victim of it. I’m not even saying their cause is unjust. Women clearly have a harder time making it in country music than men. But I don’t buy that Margo Price was researching Luke Combs tweets from 2012.
February 4, 2021 @ 11:43 am
That’s exactly what I said Trigger. Margo did not research it. You are a journalist and a critic, so of course you are going to catch crap from people. It’s not necessarily because you are male. Women catch crap all of the time from men on their opinion. I’m married to an outspoken woman so I know first hand also. Twitter is a foolish platform that invites off hand comments. Maybe some unknown, under talented performer wants to blame it on men. Who cares. Putting Margo in that category is incorrect. I happen to know her mother. Margo has always been outspoken. A bit like Natalie Maines. And this article is way too long. Sounds like your feelings are hurt over something. If you are going to be a critic, expect to catch the crap like the rest of them.
February 3, 2021 @ 5:57 pm
boy that would be something if someone were to hypothetically put their attention back on these people actively trying to ruin mens careers. everyone has dirt out there, if someone were to make it THEIR life’s work to track it down to cancel the woke mob would that not for entertainment? give them a war they won’t believe. not with violence, but fair play. lots of people locked down in this pandemic, maybe use that time to find margo’s old tweets or livejournals or zine posts.
February 3, 2021 @ 9:26 pm
Haha do they happen to post on the Pulse music boards? Bunch of feminazis there.
February 4, 2021 @ 3:21 pm
Trigger do you plan on sharing the evidence and information that led you to this conclusion? I would be interested in seeing it because this attack by Margo seems suspicious. She must really hate Luke Combs to dig out years old pictures of him or someone fed her this. I think the latter is most likely. Would be very interested to see more information about about this “community”…
February 4, 2021 @ 5:09 pm
At some point I may go more in-depth about this. Probably won’t do it in a comments section.
February 4, 2021 @ 9:31 pm
Lol you’re famous! Is it this lady that Margo is replying to? https://twitter.com/MissMargoPrice/status/1357497433643765760
February 5, 2021 @ 12:08 am
She is still responsible for the tweet, regardless of whether she did the research or not. She posted it, and the intent of posting was to harm Luke’s career.
February 4, 2021 @ 1:28 pm
Wtf are you talking about?
February 3, 2021 @ 11:38 am
Could we put the hardcore MAGAts and the woke Maoists on an island somewhere and let them hash it out among themselves?
February 3, 2021 @ 12:30 pm
Please explain what a woke Maoist is, and give examples of people who you believe are woke Maoists and evidence of them following Mao.
February 3, 2021 @ 1:42 pm
I mean, I’ve met more than a few outright self-proclaimed Maoists in my time online, but I don’t recall any of them being big country music fans.
February 3, 2021 @ 2:16 pm
“outright self-proclaimed Maoist” here, but I’ve seen Tom T Hall in concert three times in 24 hours, Willie Nelson and family in four different states over the yrs, and I missed a chance to “hook up” with Jeannie Seely. You are right, though, John, I’m not a “big country music fan” of records released after 2010.
February 3, 2021 @ 3:46 pm
Interesting, I’ve never met a Maoist before (Marxist, Leninist, communist, yes), Usually the cultural revolution and all the other atrocities turn people off.
February 3, 2021 @ 5:26 pm
My apologies, mr. glendel. I did not mean to invalidate you.
If it helps, there have been times in my life where I have agreed completely with Mao’s opinions on landlords.
February 3, 2021 @ 8:30 pm
Can you at least let me take my Waylon records to whatever gulag you’d throw me in?
February 3, 2021 @ 2:09 pm
It’s a figurative comparison. The taste for show trials and public shaming brings Maoism to mind….
February 3, 2021 @ 3:42 pm
so holding people accountable for actions is now a show trial…ok. Also Mao killed people
February 3, 2021 @ 4:57 pm
This is more American, the social justice warriors are more like a secular mirror reflection of the hardcore Bible thumpers. Everyone is a sinner who must be confronted with the truth then redeem themselves by admitting their sin and professing the right beliefs.
February 4, 2021 @ 9:38 am
The idea of white privilege is just straight up copied from the catholic concept of original sin
February 4, 2021 @ 10:17 am
The way they use it is. Woke people tend to confuse the idea with religion and proselytize. They expect people to follow their insistence on self reflection and honest desire for redemption. But in and of itself the ideas have some merit if understood as the practical realities that people contend with rather than the contents of their soul.
February 3, 2021 @ 11:39 am
“She’s simply weaponizing these images to cut his legs off, undermine his position, and create a viral moment”
So, in other words she’s just trolling for the attention she can’t get with her music?
Sounds legit.
February 3, 2021 @ 11:50 am
I was gonna say, there seems to be a tinge of bitterness there that she isn’t as big a name as he is. Like she’s trying to latch on to his fame.
February 3, 2021 @ 1:09 pm
I have never seen it but its hilarious. I have friends living semi trival in Borneo and would think its a great way to tell the difference between them and the city people showing off wealth and status.
Some things only look racist to the uninformed.
February 3, 2021 @ 11:44 am
Just to be clear: Margo is OK with Tom Petty’s confederate flag past, but not Luke Combs’
February 3, 2021 @ 11:46 am
What the hell is going in country music today? We are one person returning from the dead to becoming a soap opera.
Trig, you nailed it. Contextual it. A statement from Combs would help, but even without one, I’m comfortable knowing the facts and timeline you laid out to reach a reasonable conclusion – there’s no fire.
I live in southwestern Pennsylvania near the borders of West Virginia. I have zero tolerance for the Confederate flag. I refuse to service any customers who display one on their property (and you’d be surprised how often that happens). If I lived in the Deep South, my attitude would be different. Contextualization is everything. Not everything is black and white.
February 3, 2021 @ 11:48 am
I like Margo’s work, a lot.
But.
This type of activism is borderline mental illness, born out of feelings of inadequacy and lack of purpose. Sadly, these types really think they are “helping” by publicly trashing people for behavior or affiliations they have a problem with, no matter how nonsensical, and do so in a vicious manner aimed to harm their reputation and/or livelihood.
It’s so ugly, and she can’t see it for all the applause from people who desperately want to feel like they’re part of the group.
I generally give a pass to young people who are trying to figure out their place in the world and are prone to emotional outbursts. But, Margo is knocking on 40s door.
February 3, 2021 @ 2:11 pm
Then she makes another post highlighting nothing but african american artists. She is the literal definition of white guilt savior. The anger and hatred they must feel in their hearts everyday towards people has to be tiring.
February 3, 2021 @ 6:59 pm
She does come across to be a bit bitter like a previous commenter mentioned. I genuinely enjoy Margo’s music and have her first 2 albums, but what she tweeted or the way she tweeted it doesn’t sit right with me. Shocked me a little bit too. Just overall comes across as her trying to start a witch hunt.
February 3, 2021 @ 11:49 am
But when you saying you’re releasing a song for “at this moment” but also you’re “not being political” you’re speaking out of both sides of your mouth.
I’m all for “unity” but unity in the sense that we agree everyone is entitled to the same rights. The right to get married, the right to equal treatment by law enforcement, the right to vote as easily as anyone else, the right to make medical decisions about your body, or not be shamed for your gender.
At the moment though, these calls to unity from white male country artists (and Republicans) seem to be about ignoring/moving on from what has occurred. You can’t unify, until you’ve had a reckoning, and it’s high past time, that country music had a reckoning. If Luke has changed his attitude towards the confederate flag, that’s great. He should say so at least as publicly as the music video was. And the country industry needs to do what NASCAR has done, and speak out against the flag. As you said it’s 2021.
(and also apologize to individuals of Asian descent, because the confederate flag stuff wasn’t all Margo shared).
February 3, 2021 @ 1:25 pm
No one owes you public capitulation on any issue, much less something as benign as quoting the Jersey Shore 8 years ago.
Dude wrote a corny song about wanting public relations to be relatively normal again, and you won’t accept it unless he bends the knee and apologizes for any grievances that you see fit?
February 3, 2021 @ 2:01 pm
The song seems to be along the lines of there is a idea of I disagree with you politically but regardless we can still get along that we should strive to reach. It’s apolitical in that the unity he is asking for is deeper then politics and is more appealing to the common humanity among everyone.
As for the “how can we have unity when you don’t respect the rights….” argument. If one doesn’t recognize potential validity to the other side of the aisles opinions, it’s very hard to think of them as human. I would encourage you to try and think how it is possible that a flesh and blood human, very much like me or you, might have some of these opinions and have a rational argument for some of them. Whether that’s a different valuation of individual rights vs the rights of the unborn, or a dataset that may not completely agree with your opinion on the differential racial treatment of policing or something of the like. I am not saying I agree with them, but I do see how one could think that and that allows me to think of them as regular people and not vicious caricatures. This allows for a mutual respect and a unity which it certainly appears is something that is wanted.
Merely saying that I have a perspective shared by some 30-50 percent of the USA and the only unity that can take place is if the other 30-50 percent completely capitulated and bows down to my 30-50 percents perspective on everything isnt unity, it’s just another form of division.
Social media has contributed to the polarization by minimizing the actual thought and respect that face to face conversation and debate creates and has reduced everything to soundbites and strawmen. It is a large part of the reason we are here and that is referenced in the song also.
All in all I think the song did its job nicely. Featuring Billy Strings who from the little I know about him isn’t quite the red blooded conservative type of guy that Combs appears to be was a nice touch that plays right into theme of the song.
February 3, 2021 @ 2:13 pm
People who are gay, or not-Christian, or transgender, or of a different color…..are equally as human as you. You may do whatever you want with your body, nobody is telling you how to live. However, when your beliefs start telling me how to live my life, that’s when it’s a problem.
And btw this isn’t politics, this is about values and morality. We can agree to disagree on things like taxes, how the city council spends it’s money…that’s politics. Basic human rights for ALL people to get to live their lives with freedom, just isn’t. And I’m going to condone it in the name of unity. Their are beliefs and actions I don’t condone.
February 3, 2021 @ 3:04 pm
Please note the specific examples I gave which have more substantive intellectual arguments for both sides then the other examples. Not all topics are created equal. Respect for the opposing opinions on issues that have more validity actually strengthens a “This is beyond the Overton Window” argument about other issues.
As for the “no one is telling you to how to live your life” argument, there are many libertarian arguments to be made that due to this very principle, the government should have no part in marriage, regardless of the nature of the partners. Is this a denial of human rights or an argument about politics? Arguably there are components of both within the argument. Simply portraying the argument as “A bunch of right wing types hate gay people and want to take away their rights” is not the most accurate way to frame the argument. Not all folks on the right have their opinions for the same reasons.
Now, there certainly are many folks that do feel that way and that is tragic. Nonetheless, commonality and unity can be found with them either politically or culturally. Unity doesn’t mean we all agree to each other. But it does mean that we at least try to tolerate and maybe even try to understand each other. Perhaps a focus on these commonalities and genuine attempts at understanding or empathizing would actually warm these people up to the viewpoints you have instead of inflaming the rhetoric and reinforcing both sides priors.
Songs like this one have a great deal of potential to connect the various political factions in a cultural sense. There is a lot of talk about unity flying around these days. We should be celebrating attempts such as this to create and reinforce the binds that hold us together rather then break down the remaining ties we have left. We will be stronger as both humans and as a country if we can do this.
Trigger, I hope this is not beyond the purview of the comment section. I see a lot of these ideas within the recent songs about unity that have been released and I guess this topic just triggered my keyboard fingers.
February 3, 2021 @ 4:36 pm
If the government wanted to get out of the marriage business that would be fine. It would be logistically difficult though, as that would require changes in the tax code, the legal system, hospital policies etc. Religious leaders already have the right to not officiate based on religious beliefs. You have the right to a civil (gov’t) ceremony, not the right to a religious one.
Which human rights related belief do you have, that you think I should respect your right to impose it on others?
That said, based on your earlier comment I’m going to guess that one is abortion. If you don’t want to have an abortion, based on your religious beliefs, that’s fine, I have no problem with that (although based on your handle this seems unlikely to ever be an issue for you). My religious beliefs though do not state that life begins at conception. My issue is you stating that your religious belief should be the secular law of the land. I also have an issue with forcing women to risk their lives, and ability to have future children based not on medical advice, but your religious belief. I don’t think your religion should get to make medical policy. And if you think you should get to make decisions for my body, then no…we’re not going to be friends. I’m not telling you what to do with your body, based on my religion.
February 3, 2021 @ 5:38 pm
You seem to be under the impression that I don’t “understand” the argument on the other side.
But here is my question to you, why should I “reach across the aisle” or value the opinion of people who don’t believe that my rights are equal to theirs?
Or can you give me an example of an opinion I should value where people don’t have equal human rights?
July 19, 2023 @ 9:33 pm
Yeah no, silly comment.
Maybe for stuff like “I like this sports team” it’s useful but for real life something like “I don’t think blacks deserve rights” or “the Confederate flag isn’t a big deal” is not something to recognize “validity” in.
The first cannot be validated because it is just outright blind bigotry which inherently is not logically sound, the second is the opinion of someone who is woefully uninformed. I mean the Confederate flag is essentially the R. Kelly of flags. It’s supporters were initially vast and soon thinned out, the people who defended it did so solely because of a weird sort of “nostalgia”, most of the people who initially defended it and stopped only did so because continuing to support it would damage their social status, there was tons of proof for years that it was messed up, and any sort of proof or criticism when brought up would be responded to in the same dismissive way.
February 3, 2021 @ 11:53 am
All this “calling out” is also part of a business model.
February 3, 2021 @ 11:53 am
God, I somehow missed this nonsense and I was still repulsed by the reaction from the strident Twiter left to this song. There was this really ugly attitude that this was somehow the epitome of white privilege. The idea seemed to be that it was ignorant white guys saying “why can’t we all just get along?” and ignoring harsh realities. Yet the point of the song is that the contentiousness these days is making for a for a much more dangerous country for everyone. I really wish Margo Price had the capacity to look in the mirror and understand how she contributes to it with this garbage.
I know Luke Combs comes from a conservative background but he strikes me as a guy who doesn’t give a shit about politics. I thought this song was very thoughtful for him. Billy, of course, is a hippy who writes a lot of topical songs.
I have been a Margo fan but but if she’s really sinking to this fuck her. Billy Strings is in a class of musician that dwarfs her middling talent and writes better “political” songs besides that.
February 3, 2021 @ 3:03 pm
It’s a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation. I don’t know what liberals want in America these days, except absolute submission and compliance. Honestly, it’s not and never will be about compromise, meeting halfway, or “unity”. Any goodwill gestures from their social and political “opponents” are met with suspicion, derision, and rejection.
I live on the deep-left east coast and rest assured, these people haaaate you if you live in flyover country. You are scum to them. Elitist classism permeats every part of polite culture here. So, even if some fat bearded redneck like Luke Combs sings a song about “getting along” which is an objectively nice thing to do (with no logical reason to suspect Combs’ intentions aren’t sincere), it’ll never be enough for the political and social left. Such gestures are to be met with brutal resistance, because sociopolitical dominance doesn’t happen if you show some modicum of respect, kindness, or goodwill for people that aren’t exactly like you in thought, lifestyle, or appearance.
February 3, 2021 @ 11:54 am
What’s that in Margo’s hand? Let me zoom in there… ah, now I see! It’s the straws she’s grasping at to buoy her own barely-palpable career.
February 4, 2021 @ 10:30 am
So long as they’re recycled biodegradable paper straws …
February 3, 2021 @ 11:58 am
Margo Price is all about Margo Price, and she’ll attack anyone to grab attention for herself. She’s an awful person and mediocre musical act.
Whatever anyone thinks about Luke Combs, I don’t recall anyone electing Margo Price to be in charge of doxxing and judging anyone.
February 3, 2021 @ 12:00 pm
To quote Eminem: This is your moment big as you are gonna so enjoy it.
Also these kind of people only make me a bigger Upchurch fan.
February 3, 2021 @ 7:03 pm
RHEC Skin!!
February 3, 2021 @ 12:05 pm
“Trying to make up for the past with present-day benefits has a track record that shows many counterproductive consequences.”
-Thomas Sowell
February 3, 2021 @ 12:43 pm
I didn’t know this was a discussion on reparations or raising the minimum wage law. Not sure how Sowell fits in here.
February 3, 2021 @ 3:11 pm
Thomas Sowell has written over 50 books spanning the gamut of American politics, culture and society. He’s written broadly about race, education, and ideology since the 70s and has far more perspective than you or most anyone will probably ever have. If you think he’s nothing more than a mean ol’ right wing economist you are sadly ignorant.
February 3, 2021 @ 3:44 pm
Are you kidding me?
Thomas Sowell is totally relevant to todays discussions on race hustling and virtue signaling.
Talk about missing the boat.
Kudos to Flying J.
February 3, 2021 @ 12:05 pm
I grew up in the heart of the south. And the confederate flag was prominent in many of my extended family members lives. in my house we felt that we didn’t need a flag to prove how southern we were. Nevertheless, it’s unfortunate that a group of people felt the need to use the flag as a symbol of hate and at the same time it’s unfortunate that you have a group of people who feels the flag is a representation of their southern heritage.
As for Margo, I’ve lost interest in her as a singer. I played her first album for a couple of months and got bored with it. And then everything after that just seems dull. She seems not to have the intangible piece to her that makes you want to come back for more. And because of that I just don’t really care what her opinion is on anything. It just doesn’t seem right that someone like Jammie Lin Wilson who I would argue is a much better country artist isn’t as well known as Margo.
We live in a society where we easily forget how imperfect each one of us is are, But we have no problem at all pointing out other people’s imperfections. But I guess as long as pointing out other’s imperfections and pass doing makes you feel better while glamouring more social media attention it’s alright…
February 4, 2021 @ 3:35 pm
Yes, I like Margo’s music but I want to like her a lot more than I do. Despite having listened to all her records many times, I feel like I don’t know anything about her. There’s no distinctive character of Margo Price in her songs. She fails to embody an archetypes in the way that her more successful peers do. Miranda is the rebellious bad girl. Kacey is the warm sexy Earth nymph. Ashley McBride is raw and wise. Even Kelsea has the cheerleader next door thing going for her. But who is Margo Price? Without a central character in her work, it comes off as just a list of complaint.
March 17, 2024 @ 7:06 pm
The problem with the claim of heritage is that this flag is from Virginia’s 28th regimen and not the entire south. So clearly they don’t know what their heritage really is.
February 3, 2021 @ 12:06 pm
I proudly fly the Confederate Battle Flag at my home.
February 3, 2021 @ 12:37 pm
So you proudly support a group that declared war on the United States in order to preserve its right to enslave people.
February 3, 2021 @ 1:33 pm
The United States did not outlaw the chattel enslavement of men, women, and children based solely on African ancestry until December 6, 1865. Thus, the United States, as much as the Confederate States of America’s, claimed the right to enslave people. The United States still claims the right to enslave people “… as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted…”. This is still enshrined in the US Constitution and as never been altered.
February 3, 2021 @ 1:50 pm
And yet, the south seceded from the union over fears that the north/anti-slave states would eventually outlaw slavery if they grew to outnumber the slave states. In fact this is why the Missouri compromise happened
As to the second, you are correct, which has led to the profiteering and abuse in the prison system.
February 3, 2021 @ 2:15 pm
And yet, the American British Colonies seceded from the United Kingdom over fears that the British Parliament would outlaw slavery in the British Empire – which is exactly what happened in 1833. And the northern/ anti-slave States agreed to and were legally obligated to capture and ship runaway enslaved people back to their “owners” in the south via their ratification of the US Constitution. Not nice.
February 3, 2021 @ 12:40 pm
to know one’s surprise. based on comments you’ve made in the past, it might be one of the lesser offensive things in your home!
February 3, 2021 @ 3:12 pm
no* (damn speech to text)
February 3, 2021 @ 1:02 pm
I’ve never understood why people are so proud to show the world that they love being losers. Look at me, I fly the flag of failure!
February 3, 2021 @ 2:27 pm
Unsophisticated drunk:
Not losers.
Not Texas, at least.
For your information. the final battle of the Civil War was fought in Texas. It was known as the Battle of Palmito Ranch, and was an overwhelming victory for the Confederacy.
February 3, 2021 @ 2:56 pm
And then they surrendered.
Because those traitors lost.
February 3, 2021 @ 2:59 pm
Let’s please keep the conversation on topic folks. Thanks!
February 3, 2021 @ 3:10 pm
Sorry Trig!
“We won a pointless battle after we’d already lost the war! Pride!” Was too rich a target to pass up!
February 3, 2021 @ 3:13 pm
Leave it to a texan to argue that they were the best losers.
February 3, 2021 @ 4:12 pm
If a man’s from Texas, he’ll tell you.
If he’s not, don’t embarrass him by asking.
John Gunther
February 3, 2021 @ 6:58 pm
…….”I’ve never understood why people are so proud to show the world that they love being losers. Look at me, I fly the flag of failure!”…..
I’m with you. I’ve also never understood why people continue to hold membership in the criminal organization that created the flag.
February 3, 2021 @ 1:13 pm
Someone who’s spent weeks tongue-polishing the flagpoles of traitors, racists, and losers flies their flag as well?
Stop the presses!
February 3, 2021 @ 3:45 pm
I have images of the confederate flag associated with my past….they are also associated with my present as well
February 3, 2021 @ 12:07 pm
Not to get too political here lol but the vocal and angry parts of the political left like Margo don’t really care that much about the regrettable parts of people’s past. They are just angry when someone doesn’t help spread their narrative or politics. When all she had was the confederate flag stuff, she had to bring in the obviously ludicrous white supremacy symbol accusation.
They get especially angry when people don’t explicitly take either side because this helps them maintain a larger audience. This audience isn’t being exposed to the particular narrative or talking points and this denies them control.
Make no mistake, if Luke had been espousing talking points of the political left this stuff would have never been dredged up. Margo is simply trying to punish him for not spreading her preferred narrative.
February 3, 2021 @ 5:36 pm
And it’s her business because? Don’t look for skeletons in other peoples closets…
February 3, 2021 @ 5:40 pm
Agreed, and the same can be said for some commenters here. Making everything political makes everything divisive. Who stands to benefit most from that?
February 3, 2021 @ 12:08 pm
Also, Trig, get ready for the “He defended a racist by saying Wallen deserves what’s coming to him, and pointed out how the Price-Combs debacle is disingenuous because Combs already addressed those issues, before he celebrated TJ coming out” tweets.
Anyone reading, don’t misconstrue me, it is fantastic that TJ came out. He’s a human being and deserves to love who he loves. I’m solely pointing out Twitter nonsense that will be coming because Trig “didn’t report on it fast enough.”
February 3, 2021 @ 12:22 pm
This cancel culture shit is so tired. Nobody is perfect and lets offer them grace when justified:)
February 3, 2021 @ 12:28 pm
I thought it was largely fine. Her point about the three fingers was incorrect and it was good that was cleared up, but otherwise I thought her tweet was solid. It reminds me of the backlash against Taylor Swift when she selectively decided to invoke feminism around her 1989 album. She wanted to use it to uplift her and ignore everything remotely controversial.
Luke Combs wanted to embrace the Confederate Flag but ‘not be political’ and then suddenly rejected it. I think it’s fair to point out the hypocrisy in his shifting positions and ask for an explanation.
February 3, 2021 @ 1:26 pm
Yeah, I don’t want to “cancel” Luke Combs, but 2015 isn’t exactly ancient history, and if I understand the timeline correctly the video came out AFTER the church shooting that caused SC to take the rebel flag down at the capitol. I’m glad he changed his mind about the flag, but we can still talk about what he did 5 years ago, and he can still apologize for it if he wants.
Two other things: Margo Price is being a little bit over dramatic here, and Upchurch can’t rap to save his life.
February 3, 2021 @ 2:23 pm
“I thought it was largely fine. Her point about the three fingers was incorrect and it was good that was cleared up, but otherwise I thought her tweet was solid.”
We all must appreciate how diabolically damaging the accusation against someone for making a white power gesture on national TV could be to an artist’s career and reputation. It’s absolutely unconscionable to make such an opportunistic and flatly false accusation against someone else, and not only injured Luke Combs, it injured Billy Strings, and country music. Look what’s happening to Morgan Wallen today. He was the biggest thing in ALL of music 24 hours ago. Now his career is over. That’s why you can’t just loosely throw these accusations out there like Margo Price has done on too many occasions. It also diminishes the effectiveness when actual racists present themselves when you simply use the accusation of racism against someone simply because you disagree with them.
I agree that Luke Combs would benefit by coming out with a statement about the matter. I have a request into his camp, and I will be sharing it if it materializes.
February 3, 2021 @ 4:20 pm
I wouldn’t characterize her as diabolical because I don’t believe she has any more evil in her heart than Luke Combs does. Part of her tweet included the wrong information, likely by mistake. That’s bad, and you dealt with it.
In any event, I agree with her overall point and thought the rest of her evidence (multiple instances of Luke Combs with the Confederate flag) said all it needed to, really.
February 4, 2021 @ 3:41 pm
The “accusations ruin your career” argument just doesn’t hold water. Plenty of people are still working despite having accusations much worse than them leveled against them: Woody Allen, Roman Polanski, Mel Gibson, etc. And look at the sales bump you just reported for Morgan Wallen. No, unfortunately, these accusations aren’t really enough to ruin anyone’s career.
February 4, 2021 @ 5:08 pm
The careers of Woody Allen, Mel Gibson, et al have definitely been severely injured by their behavior. The fact that they were established and affluent before it happened helped them recover a bit. But they’re still major public enemies. I don’t mean to imply Morgan Wallen will never work again. But the dude just spent the last three weeks at #1 in all of music. He will get there again next week because of the backlash. But after that, he will have a severe climb back, just like Mel.
February 3, 2021 @ 12:48 pm
Historical point of order: The Confederate Flag – actually the battle flag of northern Virginia, but I’ve given up on trying to correct that – is not what’s referred to as the “stars and bars”. The stars and bars was the original CSA state flag which is very similar to the US flag. So similar that the two were often confused on the battlefield, which is what led to the battle flag being created in the first place.
That is all.
February 5, 2021 @ 5:44 am
I can’t help but feel you are splitting hairs. While that battle flag was never ‘the’ Confederate flag, it is certainly ‘a’ Confederate flag. It isn’t the flag of Uzbekistan. Also, I believe two versions of the official flag of the C.S.A. had that symbol in the corner.
I’m always rather puzzled as to why this fact is brought up so much. It’s almost as if in some people’s minds it not being the official flag means it carries no Confederate baggage whatsoever. Is that just a way to try and shut down any criticism and justify its continued use? Or is it merely that people love to correct and nit-pick on the net? That I can totally understand, I have to fight that urge all the time myself.
February 5, 2021 @ 5:49 am
Sorry. Please ignore. I totally misread what you said. What a twit.
February 5, 2021 @ 8:26 am
You’re not a twit. A twit wouldn’t have gone back and re-read the post, let alone acknowledged that he misinterpreted it.
The fact that my name is Tom and you read my post wrong makes your screen name eerily prophetic, though.
February 3, 2021 @ 1:00 pm
Luke should respond by bringing up that horrible song Margo wrote where she compared being a woman in America to that of slaves. Would be timely as we celebrate black history month.
February 5, 2021 @ 6:17 am
Makes me think of Bill Burr’s monologue about white women jumping the line on SNL. Or Dave Chappelle’s line:
Come on, white woman. You know what it is. You was in on the heist. You just didn’t like your cut.
I’m a fan of Margo’s music, but that song reminds me a little of Paisley’s Accidental Racist. Maybe she doesn’t quite have the songwriting chops to effectively tackle the subject matter. Not every songwriter can be Steve Earle or Patty Griffin.
February 3, 2021 @ 1:09 pm
The countdown’s on when the first beer hits me
Five, four, three, two, one
Too many.
He does that countdown when he sings this song. That pic was snapped on 3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dhf_kuX71ds
February 3, 2021 @ 1:11 pm
Luke is a good old boy but his label is working hard on cleaning him up and this song is part of that new image. Margo wants him to be politically progressive but that’s like expecting a water Buffalo to write a poem. As long as he’s not flying the loser flag anymore or using racial slurs he deserves to be left alone to graze with his herd.
February 3, 2021 @ 1:31 pm
Yep.
February 4, 2021 @ 8:16 am
I will say if he didn’t want to make that song he wouldn’t have and the fact he’s doing with an underrated artist like Billy Strings and Luke being a HUGE country artist is great. Margo’s comments don’t only hurt Luke but also Billy who both contributed to the song.
February 3, 2021 @ 1:25 pm
In this world we’re living in;people are relying more on their political views and preaching than going out there and letting their talent talk for them. If we ran artists down in history that we do today none of the greatest voices of the last century would have been heard. Talent is talent. I’ll give you a quote “Bob Dylan could murder someone in front of me and he’d still be the best damn songwriter ever”.
February 3, 2021 @ 1:30 pm
Honestly don’t mind Margo going after him for using that flag…but I do appreciate the context, Trig!
All Luke has to say now is “I was an idiot five years ago. I’ve since learned what that flag really means, and haven’t used it since.”
Throw in some apology to “anyone I’ve hurt,” and he’ll be good.
February 3, 2021 @ 4:19 pm
Of course, it’s more lucrative to pay lip service to the absurd radical left politics and yet do very little to help anyone in reality.
February 3, 2021 @ 4:41 pm
…huh?
Price isn’t doing this for money, champ, she’s just being a dick.
That said, forcing the biggest artist in country music to say, in public, “Fuck the flag of racist traitors and losers” is a positive good. Let’s hope Luke puts some money behind it, too.
February 3, 2021 @ 1:38 pm
effe Margo Price. She needs to worry about her own faltering career, instead of trying to take LC down with her on own sinking ship.
February 3, 2021 @ 1:46 pm
Which is precisely why I scrubbed Margo price from my playlist a long time ago. Liberalism and cancel culture is ruining this country!
February 3, 2021 @ 1:56 pm
Although it is counterproductive of Margo to dig up old skeletons like this, her point is valid.
When you have racists and conspiracy theorists storming the capitol and threatening democratically elected people, now isn’t really the time to wash your hands of politics. Today’s world doesn’t allow for “both sides”-ing or trying to be apolitical. His platform is large enough that he could do a lot of good.
February 3, 2021 @ 2:28 pm
If Margo Price wanted to make a point on the political subject, that would be fair game. Adding old photos and an opportunistic false screenshot and implying Luke Combs was making a white power symbol destroys her entire argument, and implies her whole exchange is more about bitterness and jealousy.
February 3, 2021 @ 2:47 pm
Eh. I think it’s less about jealousy, and more about her being an asshole.
(I like Margo quite a bit! But she’s definitely just doing this to be an asshole, haha)
February 4, 2021 @ 2:39 pm
Haha! So fucking funny to potentially ruin someone’s career just because you’re wanting to be an asshole. What a riot!
February 5, 2021 @ 3:42 am
A) There was no risk of this ruining his career.
B) He was a grown man at the time, capable of making his own decisions.
February 4, 2021 @ 11:07 pm
This is a crazy take. Her point stands regardless of what you make of his fingers.
It’s straightforward: it seems pretty rich to her for Luke Combs to play the “Aww Shucks, I’m just a non-political guy-with-a-guitar” card when he spent years hawking the confederate flag.
The point is that things like the confederate flag don’t count as “politics” to vast majority of those who want “politics” out of their music. It’s invisible to them, neutral, and uncontroversial. It doesn’t “count”; only the specific manifestations of “politics” you dislike register as problematic. It’s disingenuous.
Wanting politics out of music is as undesirable as it is futile. There’s no such thing.
Why do you equivocate about if Combs should have to answer for his promotion of a vile symbol of slavery promotion? Of course he should have an opportunity for redemption and forgiveness, but not without some accounting.
Instead of the conspiracy against you, Luke Combs, and “men” that you imagine, it’s probably just that she doesn’t like the confederate flag and insincere posturing about being apolitical. I know it doesn’t place you at the center, but it strikes as more likely.
February 4, 2021 @ 11:47 pm
Ryan,
As I said above, the political point Margo Price made was fair game. Posting an inappropriate, libelous, and opportunistic image falsely portraying Luke Combs as a white supremacist undercuts that argument.
As for the Confederate images, no, he did not spend “years” hawking those images. He’s spent more years renouncing and distancing from them. That said, I do believe Luke Combs needs to address the issue, and perhaps he will when he speaks at the upcoming Country Radio Seminar in an “accountability” panel just announced today.
Margo Price is hurting the cause with her reckless and libelous Twitter activity.
February 5, 2021 @ 12:07 pm
If you agree with the political point your whole post amounts to “yah, but including that picture with him holding up three fingers might be misleading”.
That coulda been a tweet.
February 5, 2021 @ 12:30 pm
Couldn’t be a Tweet because Margo Price blocked me, so this is the forum where I could respond with impact. Also, the timeline of Luke Combs using the Confederate flag symbol is critical context.
February 6, 2021 @ 12:10 pm
Damn eloquent way of conveying my perspective, on this.
Margo’s saying “Fuck you, the Confederate flag has ALWAYS been political, and it was political LONG before you decided to remove it from your brand.”
February 6, 2021 @ 1:24 pm
The problem is Margo Price is she is willfully avoiding telling people in her Twitter feed the, “before you decided to remove it from your brand” part, which undercuts her position. It would bolster it if she would just be honest about it.
There’s a reason media outlets are not running with this story, despite Margo’s protestations, and despite everyone being so geeked up on race and country music at the moment. It’s because most in the media have known about this stuff and the story behind it for years. It’s a non issue.
February 4, 2021 @ 11:22 pm
If you’re more energized with moral outrage at the person who tweets disapproval of a person skirting their history of confederate flag promotion than for the behavior of the promoter being discussed, your compass might need recalibration.
I hate call-out culture in so many ways but the ‘call out call out’ culture somehow manages to be just as obnoxious and equally confused.
February 3, 2021 @ 2:00 pm
Thanks for another well-reasoned balanced commentary. it is fascinating that the comments here are more civl and intelligent than those on the Facebook page.
February 3, 2021 @ 2:12 pm
Can i express my disdain for Margo’s constant worship of pot? Not that I have a problem with smoking pot, but fuck, she’s obsessed.
February 3, 2021 @ 2:28 pm
Marketing. No different than any of her other antics on Twitter.
February 3, 2021 @ 2:13 pm
there seems to be a weird reverse sexism among the female artists calling out male artists for their indiscretions, while one huge female artist keeps being rewarded for bad behavior including continued membership in the NRA, having a line of merch with confederate flags, a few racist comments in interviews and a few documented drunken violent outbursts. So I’m a little skeptical that those that call others out but save this one singer out do so from pure intentions, but rather hoping she’ll give them a career boost somewhere down the line.
February 3, 2021 @ 2:32 pm
And then there’s the episode where The Highwomen disinvited Mickey Guyton from a photo shoot, and the media has been completely mum on it. It’s arguably just as bad as what Morgan Wallen did.
https://savingcountrymusic.com/explanation-owed-on-why-highwomen-disinvited-mickey-guyton/
February 3, 2021 @ 2:49 pm
The situations are not comparable, much less “arguable.”
You’re better than that, man.
February 4, 2021 @ 3:47 pm
Would love to know why Margo pulled out of Highwomen. I bet she and Brandi’s egos couldn’t fit in the same studio.
February 9, 2021 @ 10:45 am
Seems to me, Trigger, you have a major axe to grind with Margo. Seems to me that if you don’t like what someone has said or done, you retaliate and end up doing exactly what you think they have done. Care to ruin any careers? Sounds like the answer is yes…Margo’s. I wish you could call out the racism and misogynistic attitudes of country music instead of trying to get even with Margo. Really. Life is politics. How stupid do you think we are that you have to protect and defend Luke or Wallen or Billy Strings. They are adults. Flying the confederate flag in your videos or inside your home, says something! Drunkenly screaming “f##king p###y N###a” says something. And we, the public get to decide whether we want to support their music, their lifestyle, their message, their whatever. You have a platform. Just so trivial that you insert yourself and make this a school yard brawl. If Luke has an issue with what Margo has said, or vice versa, let them hash it out. Why don’t you try to make a dent in the larger picture. Accountability, misogyny, injustice, divisiveness in country music or Americana music.
Stirring things up because of something personal strikes me as being really counterproductive and really mean spirited.
February 9, 2021 @ 12:01 pm
Margo Price made an irresponsible and dangerous post about Luke Combs that lacked context. All I did was come in and offer greater context to that issue. I did not attack Margo Price. Margo Price is the initiator of the discussion, not me. I am not trying to destroy her career, and wouldn’t have the power to do so even if I did. I also have the wisdom to understand that if I did try to destroy her career, it would only help her cause. Better to present the truth and let the public decide. That’s my job, and that’s what I did. As I said in this article, it’s not even that her concerns aren’t without merit. But they were opportunist, and lacking critical information.
February 3, 2021 @ 3:23 pm
who is that?
February 3, 2021 @ 10:01 pm
Miranda. She gets away with violence against men and openly supporting the NRA but no one ever cancels her. She’s basically the Possum of her era.
February 4, 2021 @ 3:50 pm
She’s the greatest country star of her generation. She gets all the passes from me.
February 5, 2021 @ 12:42 pm
What’s wrong with the NRA?
February 3, 2021 @ 2:33 pm
I enjoyed Margo’s first two albums and I saw her perform in London in 2018 (which was amazing) but she is quickly becoming unlikeable. I can’t really get on board with people who attack others so aggressively, especially without full context.
First the CMAs (her tweets about the lack of John Prine tribute and maskless indoor ceremony were justified but her comments that the CMA were “censoring” artists were untrue) then calling out Lady A on the Opry (which was completely unnecessary and irrelevant to her performance) and now attacking Luke Combs (again, without the facts) is really off-putting and makes me feel like she’s not a very nice person.
February 3, 2021 @ 2:52 pm
I saw her a few years ago, and she was awesome (Aaron Lee Tasjan did his best to steal the show…but holy shit, her Proud Mary!)
She seems like a bit of an asshole, working on a hair trigger…but it’s on the Eric Church scale, not the “dropping n-bombs” scale, haha.
February 3, 2021 @ 3:25 pm
I’m sure she is concerned about whether jerks out there think she’s “nice”.
February 3, 2021 @ 2:56 pm
I am a black woman, born in lagos Nigeria that found country music and loved it and I will say first hand the confederate flag is disgusting and should have been banned from the moment America lost the civil war.
There is no way to spin it but the flag is racist and insulting to black people. regardless of how anyone may want to spin it as having some good or it is a celebration of southern pride. its all bullshit.
this is part of America’s dark history and the worst part of the so called free speech where some people feel there are no consequence.
February 3, 2021 @ 4:01 pm
Slavery in Nigeria has existed for hundreds of years and still exists to this present day. Do you also find the Nigerian flag “disgusting”? Should it be “banned” until those people are freed? Slavery based solely on African ancestry was legal under the American flag from 1777 until 1865. Do you also find it “racist and insulting to black people”?
February 3, 2021 @ 4:44 pm
Holy Whataboutism, snowflake!
February 3, 2021 @ 6:46 pm
I seem to have struck a nerve. Would you care to elaborate, or is the best you can do is accuse me of a logical fallacy and revert to name calling? Chattel slavery was legal and protected in both the United States and the Confederate States, simultaneously. Yet, only the Confederate Battle Flag of Northern Virginia harbors the invisible essence of racism? Also not a fan of advocating banning symbols or speech. America is hardly the only country in the world that has a “dark history”…
February 3, 2021 @ 7:25 pm
“…..America lost the civil war.” I absolutely agree with those words. The so called Civil War completely abolished any vestige of Constitutional Federalism and replaced it with militarized Nationalism that literally waged, and still wages, total war on civilians in order to maintain dominance.
February 3, 2021 @ 3:16 pm
Jesus. Just read this. Has Margo responded. It is scandalous that she can just say this and then disappear. Billy Strings, at least, should be talking to his legal advisors. And probably Luke.
February 3, 2021 @ 3:21 pm
Yeah no. I see what you are doing there: bending over backward to make excuses for this guy and give him all the benefits of the doubt he doesn’t deserve. And that IS 100% him giving the white power symbol. You are attempting to gaslight.
February 3, 2021 @ 3:35 pm
“And that IS 100% him giving the white power symbol.”
Bullshit.
February 3, 2021 @ 4:43 pm
I will say…that’s the least common way I’ve ever seen someone put up the number 3.
February 3, 2021 @ 5:14 pm
Go watch the video. I linked to it in the article. I don’t know why this is even a discussion point, and I’m embarrassed to even be a part of it. The idea that Luke Combs is such a white supremacist that be blatantly and actively flashed a white power symbol on national TV and thought he would get away with it or something is pure lunacy, especially when you watch both SNL videos and see him making count off hand gestures in both of his performances. Just because you want it to be true doesn’t mean it is.
February 3, 2021 @ 5:38 pm
I don’t “want it to be true” – I’ve been saying all over this comment section that my takeaway from Price’s crap is “Luke Combs was a dumbass 5 years ago. He’s gotten better.”
Just saying…it’s a weird fucking way to hold up 3 fingers. You’d think his social team would coach him up on that.
(Don’t have much attachment to Combs either way – it’s not like his songs are all that close to Midland’s quality…and he tends to have more co-writers, too.)
February 4, 2021 @ 7:50 am
Watch any pro wrestling match. That is literally the only way I’ve ever seen any of them hold up 3 fingers. Least common way to hold up 3 fingers? What an inane point to try and make.
February 4, 2021 @ 7:59 am
Do…do I have to watch pro wrestling, haha?
Just saying I didn’t even use the “Okay” sign to hold up 3 fingers before it was a white supremacist thing, haha!
I usually go thumb-index-middle, myself, although sometimes I go index-middle-ring.
February 7, 2021 @ 7:04 am
Ever held a guitar pick?
February 3, 2021 @ 6:21 pm
Hey Kimberly, educate yourself.
https://youtu.be/52APBQy1Olk
February 4, 2021 @ 4:19 am
i have pics of me waving “bye” to the camera with my right harm up in the air.
Does this makes me a fascist pig sporting the “roman salute”?
February 4, 2021 @ 5:00 am
What the fuck is the matter with people like you?
February 4, 2021 @ 8:34 am
“Yeah no.” “gaslight” lol. You forgot “problematic.” With no profile pics, I can only guess: septum piercing, blue/pink hair, beanie, thick rimmed glasses…
February 4, 2021 @ 10:41 am
All these NBA players with their white supremacy symbols everytime they make a three point shot, LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
February 3, 2021 @ 3:48 pm
I’m so glad the rich elites have found a way to revamp the division between Southerners and Northerners to such a large degree over a century and a half since the war was ended. America divided cannot stand against tyranny, which is good for them.
February 3, 2021 @ 3:49 pm
I like Margo’s music.
As for the rest of it, it’s all so tiresome.
February 3, 2021 @ 3:52 pm
Margo Price sucks. If she worried about her own career as much as she does everyone else’s, maybe she wouldn’t suck.
February 3, 2021 @ 4:00 pm
Margo needs to take a puff puff and calm down.
February 3, 2021 @ 4:08 pm
I can’t believe people are still airing their grievances over the confederate flag.
This gesture from Margo Price does very little to improve the lives of anyone.
This is just another example where it’s fashionable and possibly lucrative to demonize an individual to gain attention and yet do very little to help the victims they supposedly intend to help.
There is nothing more insincere and pretentious then people scavenging for grievances.
February 3, 2021 @ 4:19 pm
Trig: do you think your readership big enough that articles like this actually make any impact on the mainstream?
February 3, 2021 @ 5:09 pm
I do. It’s not necessarily about my readership as it is about my reach. Regular readers are important, as is social media followers. But it’s the power of Google and the fact that I write long-form content with sources cited that put this content in front of the right people.
February 3, 2021 @ 4:43 pm
Trigger,
I don’t even know where to start. But I will say that I enjoy your music articles. I’m one of those college educated people with an advanced degree in history, who taught for nearly 20 years. To those of you who had the good sense not to go to college, I apologize for having those degrees, but I promise I avoided the brainwashing. The older I get (and I’m not that old), the less I can stand to be around people with college educations.
But I digress. Trigger, this is what fake news is. Not necessarily lying, but writing tendentious articles, turning personal opinions and assumptions into stated fact.
First, the epitaph on all things Confederate is not yet written. Point in fact, despite enduring a near three decade onslaught of vitriol from people with journalism degrees (i.e. the media) against Confederate symbols, a Morning Consult Poll from last summer, in the heat of the George Floyd hysteria, stated plainly that a plurality of all people in the U.S. still saw the Confederate Flag as a symbol of heritage not hate. Imagine for one second if for those 30 years the people in power actually promoted the flag. What would the support be? Or how about they just didn’t say anything at all. I’d be willing to bet support would be somewhere north of 70 percent.
Second, that plurality in the poll is probably a strong majority when you figure that a large percent of people simply don’t want to be judged by a stranger calling their home. After all, we are in the age of cancel culture and doxing.
Lastly, no matter what the media might say, there will always be people like me, passing our traditions down to our posterity, with pride. In my house right now, I have a large framed print of “The Last Meeting,” “A Ranger Farewell (Colonel Mosby)”, a portrait of John Randolph of Roanoke, and a Confederate Battle Flag.
As for being charged as a racist, I won’t even waste my time here defending myself against accusations of racism against strangers who know nothing about me.
February 3, 2021 @ 5:26 pm
John D.,
I appreciate your perspective.
73% of Mississippi residents voted to remove the Confederate symbol from the state flag … in Mississippi. As I said, I am not for striking the flag from existence. I understand people who see it as a symbol of heritage and not hate. All I am saying is that fighting for the Confederate flag to be reintegrated into American society as an accepted symbol is a lost one. That’s just the way it is.
February 3, 2021 @ 5:48 pm
Trig, he doesn’t need your “facts” about how Southerners actually view that flag – he has his feelings!
You can tell how serious he is by the apology for having a college degree!
We should honestly PRAISE him for managing to receive a history degree without ever reading a Confederate primary source! That’s damn difficult to manage.
In fairness…it’s well known that confederate newspapers from the 19th century were all controlled by George Soros’s space lasers, so he’s been wise to ignore that Fake News!
February 4, 2021 @ 6:41 am
I make it a point to never engage in a debate with a person who has to declare he digresses.
March 17, 2024 @ 7:08 pm
Yet again this flag is from Virginia’s 28th regime, not Mississippi. So it would be stolen heritage at best…..
February 3, 2021 @ 4:47 pm
Forgiveness is so much cooler than cancel culture.
February 3, 2021 @ 5:36 pm
So i guess Confederate flags are a no no. But BLM and burning down cities, killing people, and destroying neighborhoods is ok for you. the abundant pretense of virtue of the woke snowflakes never ends. Fuck you Margo Price.
ps
put that in your next song.
February 3, 2021 @ 5:45 pm
Confederate flags are a no no. And BLM and burning down cities, killing people, and destroying neighborhoods is a no no. Not sure why it has to be one or the other.
February 3, 2021 @ 7:26 pm
I am yet to see a Confederate flag burned down a police station. Perhaps if Price and her so called woke elite were to understand that the real blueprint for BLM is misery and the creation of a society lacking harmony, then she would not worry about what
stickers Combs has on his guitar.
February 4, 2021 @ 8:56 am
I gotta…the people who beat a cop to death and trashed the Capitol while trying to lynch the VP would be HORRIFIED to hear that you never saw the Loser Flag associated with violence!
They were waving them so proudly, in their quest to lynch the VP!
February 5, 2021 @ 10:26 am
SCMs own AOC strikes again.
February 5, 2021 @ 4:09 pm
I’m absurdly to the right of AOC, snowflake. I’m the cranky conservative in my friend group.
I just hate Nazis.
February 6, 2021 @ 6:12 am
Yeah, you’re the Lincoln Project conservative.
This might interest you, as you’ve been going on about this. It’s CNN, so as anti- conservative as they come. Facts over feelings eh?
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/02/02/politics/brian-sicknick-charges/index.html?__twitter_impression=true
February 6, 2021 @ 12:16 pm
…huh?
Do you actually think “We haven’t been able to identify the specific people who beat a cop to death while trying to lynch the VP” somehow changes his having been beaten to death by people trying to lynch the VP?
You gotta remember to breathe through your nose when you’re sucking off Nazis, buttercup.
Brain damage isn’t pretty.
February 12, 2021 @ 4:50 am
I think you’re past the brain damage stage.
February 3, 2021 @ 6:17 pm
Counting down the months until Margo hashtags with
#Sturg had my face in his lap!
February 3, 2021 @ 6:46 pm
I thought it was the other way around… Is she down with that?
My thoughts on Price:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDgXDTZl3xU
February 3, 2021 @ 6:55 pm
This is too funny.
Love ZZ Top.
Great reference song.
Kudos RD.
February 3, 2021 @ 6:39 pm
The problem In general with society today is people tend to think from a left perspective or a right perspective and not a moderate perspective. So then they go after each other for things that At the end of the day don’t matter in today’s society . The left is way worse at this then the right but that’s because they have all the power in the media. I’m also glad that TJ Osborne was able to come out. But in this day and age unless you’re like a hard-core Christian conservative nobody cares if you’re gay or not. And we need to Stop making a big deal about it when someone comes out.
February 3, 2021 @ 6:58 pm
I agree. But the media loves to portray country music as this stodgy institution that is resistant to this stuff. I haven’t seen any blow back for T.J. so far. I am posting a news story about it, just because if I don’t, apparently I’m homophobic. But it appears T.J. doesn’t want to make a big deal about it either. He just wants to get it out there.
February 3, 2021 @ 6:46 pm
I used to have swastikas all over my shit. But that was 5 years ago. It’s all good now right?
February 3, 2021 @ 6:50 pm
Ever seen American History X?
The question is, have you renounced the ideology behind that symbolism? Then you should be allowed to receive reconciliation and forgiveness.
February 3, 2021 @ 7:31 pm
Agree – that’s what Luke needs to do. He hasn’t. Because he will piss off his main demographic. Doesn’t mean Margo can go distorting things. She doesn’t need to.
February 3, 2021 @ 9:52 pm
Luke Combs has renounced the Confederate imagery, and the verification of that comes from Upchurch, and the Luke Combs camp. I do agree it would be helpful if Luke released a public statement about this.
February 3, 2021 @ 7:09 pm
Between this and her recent allegations against trigger, I’ve really lost a ton of of respect for Margo as of late.
Talented musician, but good lord she seems like a completely miserable person.
February 3, 2021 @ 7:09 pm
Honestly I’m just waiting for Upchurch to get his hands on this article and make one of his roast videos about it. He’ll probably title it “TrIgGErD!” or something like that lol. He roasted Grady Smith in the past though I believe they’re on good terms now. But anything he perceives as derogatory towards him will suffer his unquenchable roasting.
February 3, 2021 @ 7:22 pm
I will also add that Upchurch hasn’t released a “country rap” album in two years. He has however been making country music, back in April he released a album called “Everlasting Country” and it’s pretty good. He has also released a number of country singles over the past year including one with Clay Walker and another called “Fuck it” that flips off mainstream country. I was actually surprised “Everlasting Country” wasn’t reviewed on here. What with Saving Country Music usually having a soft spot for independent artists. But regardless the guy does way more than rap and has become.a millionaire through his own work and seems to be living it up and at the same time gleefully flipping off Nashville.
February 3, 2021 @ 7:20 pm
Whites are best at tap dancing,
February 3, 2021 @ 7:22 pm
She went looking for attention and found some. Look at me syndrome.
Usually happens when someone’s career is taking a nosedive or has a new movie, single or album on the way.
February 3, 2021 @ 8:07 pm
I have lived in the South with black people and with the Confederate flag.
Our family’s ancestors defended our land against an invading army. I would have done the same thing.
We had no slaves or money.
I do not renounce the flag.
Nor do I cling to it .
Nor have I ever met even one person who defends, or wants to return to, slavery.
People can cancel me all they wish.
And I’m for damned sure not a racist.
February 3, 2021 @ 9:00 pm
Margo Price is a hypocrite and sucks. Plain enough?
February 3, 2021 @ 9:33 pm
Man, don’t take the bait and give her the attention she’s begging for.
February 4, 2021 @ 12:20 am
Sorry I don’t know who this girl is, but when does she find time to make actual music? Seems like she’s pretty busy in her role as industry scold.
February 4, 2021 @ 2:08 am
As a foreigner, I was pretty shocked to go to South Carolina about 15 years ago, and see the Confederate flag flying everywhere: eg public spaces and they were plentiful! I think most of the world outside of the USA has considered it a symbol of racism and oppression for some time. It’s good to see the US looking inwardly and revising their stance on these things. Good on Mississippi for changing their flag!
However, of course it’s all contextual. I grew up in New Zealand watching The Dukes of Hazzard on telly, as kids we all thought he General Lee was the coolest car ever! Times have changed, that’s for sure.
As for Margo Price, meh. As soon as I read the article about her disrespecting you Trig, I decided I disliked her intensely. I’ve not heard much of her music, but what I’ve heard is pretty crap. No idea why Jack White signed her.
It sounds like her musical ability hasn’t garnered her any fame or fortune so she’s now taking the low-road to get her name out there. Probably won’t end well for her ….
PS Sending Trig and all the SCM community aroha from NZ. Sending you all love and blessings. Hang in there!
February 4, 2021 @ 8:47 am
I saw Margo Price on the Grand Ole Opry and she came across to me as a scold. She probably wouldn’t be very pleasant to be around.
February 4, 2021 @ 9:51 am
Basically it’s the new witch hunt and you are tried and convicted before you ever get to testify.
February 4, 2021 @ 2:13 pm
I heard Margo Price sing on XM radio. She is one of the worst singers I’ve ever heard. I have paid no attention to anything about her since. I live in Nashville. It seems that there are a group of hipsters in East Nashville that like her. Anyone that knows country music or music, in general, can hear that her phrasing is band, her tone is weak, she just doesn’t have it… and don’t get me started on her songwriting, at least what I heard on outlaw country before I canceled XM.
February 4, 2021 @ 2:22 pm
“I will say…that’s the least common way I’ve ever seen someone put up the number 3.”
All progress takes place outside the comfort zone.
Get out of your comfort zone, Les.
February 4, 2021 @ 2:25 pm
Not really a baseball fan, but I know enough to know that Kurt Schilling should be in the HOF.
So should the majority of the past greats be removed from their Hall of Fame status? They undoubtedly had similar views to Schilling.
Free Bird is next to be cancelled.
February 4, 2021 @ 10:51 pm
It’s late Thursday night. And Margo Price just posted the video with the rapper you wrote about. With none of the year information you provided. It’s so disturbing. And deliberate. I don’t understand her reasoning. I’m just tired of it all. I asked this before. What is she trying to accomplish? Why not speak to him privately? Time to step away from country music.
February 5, 2021 @ 7:19 am
I find this to be another poor jab by an artist whos music is sub par and has been for years. She has tried many routes to some how sell her records with less and less results. Her comments about blm during her opry performance where funny especially counting the fact her band did not represent her thoughts or opinions. Perhaps better music would be a start, be the change you want to see. I am not purchasing any more of her albums.
February 5, 2021 @ 8:23 pm
Margo Price covering Tom Petty. Well that did not help her career so change her flag feeling. We all know 3 2 1 too many
February 6, 2021 @ 8:48 am
I play country music every weekend in the Bars In Nashville as s country DJ… I have yet had anyone come up to me and ask me to play Margo Price…. I had to Wiki who the hell she was…. Yet every weekend I get asked to play LUke COmbs… Move along Margo stop trying to make yourself important
February 7, 2021 @ 5:55 am
This is the music scene equivalent of calling Obama a Muslim in the political sphere. It’s just on the woke side of the spectrum so it’s okay right now. There’s a moral panic in this country around race.
February 10, 2021 @ 10:44 am
Could it be that artists feel the need to speak out against racism in country music because i there is still so much racism in country music and in country music fans (as is well-demonstrated to a scary extent in the comments section of this website everyday) -and they want things to be better and to make clear that they reject that kind of racism? I’m glad Luke Combs has scrubbed his association with the Confederate flag even if it was record-company driven. In general, no one should ever look to white guys as the arbiters of what’s racist (or sexist). Their record all through history up to the present day is a shitty one to put it mildly. I also reject that gaslighting BS about the white power symbol. On the contrary there are many instances of it occurring that are mean exactly what is supposed to convey: a white supremacy “in joke”
February 10, 2021 @ 11:05 am
By falsely claiming Luke Combs made a white power symbol, which anyone can easily verify was a libelous and irresponsible assertion by Margo Price, as well as her failure to continue to acknowledge his renouncement of Confederate flag symbolism in 2016, she has undercut her entire argument, made it seem to be more about spite than legitimate concern, and damaged the effort to eradicate racism from country music by poisoning it with falsehoods, giving ammunition to the other side. If she would have just been honest, accurate, and articulate from the beginning, as opposed to underhanded and spiteful, she might have had some impact. Instead, no media outlets picked up the story (because they already knew about Luke’s past), and it had no influence beyond Margo’s Twitter sphere, which is already an echo chamber.
February 10, 2021 @ 12:03 pm
Trigger, as always even when I don’t agree with you about everything, I respect how you will honestly and civilly respond to comments. That alone is reason to keep coming back to this site.
February 10, 2021 @ 10:32 pm
margo the tattle tale bitch thought she was going to get good girl liberal points with her snitching, would have made a good soviet union commie throwing people under the bus. however is she aware how many brown people have died under the american flag, especially arabs after bush and his jewish neo cons invaded the wrong country (on purpose)?
February 6, 2023 @ 12:04 am
First off who the hell is Margo Price and who left her in charge of anything? Secondly has Ms Price ever met Luke? I can personally tell you that Luke Combs is not a racist. I’ve known Luke for over 12 years and i’ve never heard a word from Luke to think he was a racist or anything close. But let me explain something to you, personally the Confederate flag means nothing about black people or slavery to me. The only thing bad about that flag is the thousands of men that died for that flag during the civil war.So I dont want to hear anyone that owns one is racist as you dont know me or my feelings. I guess Luke scrubbed it from his life to keep his career because it really is sad that idiot people try to do that to others. It’s best if everyone keeps there noses in their own damn miserable lives and out of others.
August 14, 2023 @ 6:18 am
I had bought a yellow for visibility T-shirt out of a cut-rate bin when I was house-sitting and bicycling way out in the countryside. Back home in town a black gentleman confronted me. T-shirt decor was NASCAR, iirc #43 on the left, Confederate flag on the right. Wish I had thrown the $1T-shirt in the trash right there or cut the flag out, if I’d’ve had a knife then, idk? Awkward moment in the 1980’s there (35 years before MS changed its flag) Hope I explained my reason to him, but in my consternation idk WHAT I did. Thanks for reading 😉
November 15, 2023 @ 8:59 am
Trigger,thanks from the bottom of this ol’ black Canadian/American boy’s heart for consigning the Confederate Flag to history. Secondly,NOBODY,least of all Yours Truly,considers Luke Combs a Confederate sympathizer or racist,as witness his classy acknowledgement of African American Tracy Chapman’s achievement in becoming the first black writer of a Number One Country hit,”Fast Car,” which Tracy wrote and sang in 1988 and which Luke covered to the top of the Country charts in 2023,as well as his collaborations with other black artists.
April 29, 2024 @ 7:58 pm
Margo WHO??? Stars & Bars FOREVER!
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