On The Mike Huckabee Appointment and Resignation From the CMA Foundation
The first thing that we should all be able to universally recognize is how shortsighted the CMA was for foisting this issue upon us by electing a politician to one of their boards to begin with, regardless of the qualifications, and regardless of who it was or their political affiliation. In a different time, cooler heads could easily understand this is not a political appointment, and understand that having someone who has worked within the political realm—and specifically in the field of public funding for the arts and education—would be especially desirable and uniquely qualified to hold a position in a non-profit organization such as the CMA Foundation to help promote music education in schools.
But unfortunately we do not live in such an era. We live in the era of political rancor. We live in the era of torches and pitchforks and Twitter swarms. We live in an era when the measure of equality for some is to make everyone as equally miserable as the most miserable human alive, and where certain individuals go online each morning very specifically to search for things to be angry and miserable about. And this is the second time the CMA has made an unforced error when it comes to how to navigate the treacherous political waters of our time.
When the CMA asked journalists not to broach political subjects on the Red Carpet of the annual CMA Awards last November, it was another bungle by an organization that seems to be blind to the realities of the day, even if they were within their rights to make such a request of a private event, and one where performers were just weeks removed from horror on a scale we have not seen in modern American history and didn’t need to be traumatized by muckraking reporters. Yet by attempting to stifle the possibility of political intrusion, the CMA pretty much demanded it. And the next thing you knew, one of the biggest stories after the CMA’s evening of unity was Sturgill Simpson busking outside for the ACLU.
Political affiliations aside, Mike Huckabee may have been the most qualified individual in America for the position on the CMA Foundation he was appointed to. As much as someone may dislike Mike Huckabee or some of the specific things he’s said or done in the past, it doesn’t change the fact that from a hard analysis irrespective of political affiliation, he was just about perfect. You may only know Mike Huckabee as a Presidential candidate and a cable TV talking head, but he is also a long-time musician, someone who rose to national prominence in politics specifically for his efforts to turn around Arkansas schools, is known for his long-standing support for the National Endowment for the Arts, and for his advocacy for arts and music in public education. This wasn’t just the appointment of some high-profile name to draw attention to the CMA Foundation’s efforts, it was the CMA Foundation getting the most qualified person for the job.
Let’s also understand that this is not a paid position. Mike Huckabee chose to serve on the CMA Foundation at the request of the organization. He didn’t lobby for this position. He was asked to do it. And when his presence became a point of drama, he resigned, immediately, and with dignity, to save the CMA Foundation from any further drama.
But none of this mattered to an expressly slim yet vociferous minority within the country music industry, and an especially politically-bias and belligerent part of the country music press corps that every day wakes up looking for someone’s life to destroy in the name of political progress, diluting the terms of “racist,” “sexist,” and “homophobe” from their affinity to use them against anyone and everyone they may tacitly disagree with.
Jason Owen—who is the manager of Little Big Town, Faith Hill and Midland, as well as the co-owner of the recently-launched Monument Records—is the one who sparked off the anti-Huckabee sentiment after the appointment was announced on Thursday, March 1st by the CMA Foundation. He also happens to be gay.
“The CMA has opened their arms to [Mike Huckabee], making him feel welcome and relevant,” Jason Owen said in part. “Huckabee speaks of the sort of things that would suggest my family is morally beneath his and uses language that has a profoundly negative impact upon young people all across this country. Not to mention how harmful and damaging his deep involvement with the NRA is. What a shameful choice.”
First off, Mike Huckabee is relevant. He may not be relevant to Jason Owen. Jason Owen and others may not like him, or the fact that he is relevant. But Mike Huckabee is a well-known name and a popular guy in the circles he runs in. Serving on the board of a foundation isn’t somehow going to make Huckabee more relevant. Owen’s words reveal a very tight-knit reality tunnel, and a belief that he should be able to be insulated from people who he doesn’t share the same ideals or opinions with.
Jason Owen’s insinuation that Huckabee is a dangerous choice because he may somehow use his position on the CMA Foundation board to assert an anti-gay or pro-gun stance to the youth of America is just as absurd, unfounded, and bigoted as suggesting people like Jason Owen want to turn the youth of America gay with music like Little Big Town’s “Girl Crush.” There is nothing that suggested Huckabee would bring any of his political positions to the CMA Foundation. In fact he had sworn not to.
As much as anyone may hate what Mike Huckabee has said in the past about Creationism or gay marriage, it is not illegal, or even abnormal to be Christian, conservative, or pro-gun. It is a right protected by the Constitution for anyone to be able to believe and practice as they choose. It’s also not uncommon, especially within the country music industry, or in Tennessee where the CMA resides, to hold conservative, Christian, or pro-gun opinions. In fact these opinions are the prevailing sentiment in the region. Some may find this truth unfortunate. It might be something Jason Owen and others want to undermine, which is their right to attempt to do. But Mike Huckabee’s political affiliations are no more relevant than Jason Owen’s when it comes to filling a position on the board of the CMA Foundation.
“Until recently, the arts was the one place America could set aside political, geographical, racial, religious, and economic barriers and come together,” Huckabee said in his resignation letter tenured the same day the news of his appointment was made public. “If the arts community becomes part of the polarization instead of bridging communities and people over the power of civil norms as reflected in the arts, then we as a civilization may not be long for this earth.”
Yes, yes, and yes. This is exactly what Saving Country Music has been saying for the last two years as seething political anger has permeated the music space and acted as an acidic, segregating force. Music has the unique ability to bring people together regardless of their political stripes, and sow understanding between them. But when individuals politicize the music space—as both the CMA did by their initial appointment, and Jason Owen did by refuting the appointment solely based on political disagreements—the result is often the building of walls, and the exacerbating of misunderstanding and discord, as we have seen in the aftermath of the Mike Huckabee announcement and subsequent resignation.
Mike Huckabee goes on to say, “All of us have deep passions about our beliefs. I do about mine. But I hate no one. I wish upon NO ONE the loss of life or livelihood because that person sees things differently than me. I hope that the music and entertainment industry will become more tolerant and inclusive and recognize that a true love for kids having access to the arts is more important than a dislike for someone or a group of people because of who they are or what they believe.”
Yes, again. We have a solemn obligation as a music community to put all differences aside and come together for very important causes with nearly universal support like promoting music education in schools. The fact that you had a Republican—who traditionally wage war against institutions like the National Endowment for the Arts—willing to work with Jason Owen, the CMA Foundation, and others in the promotion of this important cause, should have been seen as a unique moment to come together for the common good. Unfortunately though, some chose to use it as a moment to stir political divisiveness.
The reason nothing is getting done in America is because too many people—like Jason Owen and many folks on the conservative side as well—refuse to work with people they may not agree with. So instead, we end up putting all our energy towards undermining each other’s efforts, as Jason Owen did with the CMA Foundation by threatening to pull support, and forcing the resignation of one of the most qualified individuals from the CMA Foundation board.
Instead of attacking Mike Huckabee, why didn’t Jason Owen reach out, invite Huckabee over to his house for dinner, show him that gay households are just like any household. They have values, love their children, some even worship God. If you think Mike Huckabee is misguided, then what does banishing him from your community do but allow him to go and be homophobic somewhere else? What does showing fear and distrust do but make individuals reflexively hold tighter to their predisposed positions? Having Mike Huckabee in Nashville could have posed an opportunity to build a bridge and further understanding with him and the conservative community for Jason Owen and others.
Of course the national media was going to couch country music as an intolerant and closed-minded society in regards to this issue. Undoubtedly there are still pockets of intolerance, but the careers of Jason Owen, Shane McAnally, CMT Cody, Brandy Clark, Brandi Carlile, and others have proven that whatever prejudice that may have prevailed in the country genre in the past for gay individuals has been at least dulled. This is something the country industry should be proud of as it continues to strive for equality and tolerance. But equality and tolerance is a two-way street.
Mike Huckabee stepped down, and almost immediately, and in a gracious manner after the firestorm his appointment stirred. The folks who wanted him off the board got exactly what they wanted. They won. But that wasn’t enough. They wanted a bowl of blood. They continued to work to impugn Huckabee, and mischaracterize his efforts, causing further schisms in the country music community. The AV Club wrote an article titled, “Mike Huckabee is being a real dick about getting kicked off the CMA board.” Country performer Chely Wright—who came out as gay in 2010 and has since been an activist for gay rights in country music and beyond—wrote an open letter in rebuttal to Mike Huckabee’s resignation letter, and went far beyond the pale with her accusations.
“Do you have any idea how many young people will read your letter? Do you know how many of those young people will be shattered, yet again, to hear someone with so much power saying the things you’re saying about who God made them to be? Some of these young people will consider ending their lives, like I considered doing in 2006.”
Yes, Chely Wright insinuates that because of Mike Huckabee’s resignation letter to the CMA Board—a resignation that Chely Wright and others were demanding and makes no mention to political causes whatsoever—that more young gay individuals will contemplate and potentially commit suicide. You can read the full Mike Huckabee resignation letter below and in its entirety, and try to find something, anything that would lend to this irresponsible opinion by Chely Wright. But since Chely Wright, Jason Owen, and others are perceived to have an absolute moral high ground on this issue, they are free to take liberties with their words, regardless of the authenticity of the accusations, or the damaging results of them.
Saving Country Music’s official stance on this matter is that Mike Huckabee was an excellent candidate for the job he was appointed to … who should have never even been considered because of the political climate and his past statements that were sure to cause unnecessary controversy. But like Huckabee said in his resignation letter, we cannot let political hatred permeate the music space, we cannot let our differences get in the way of working together on universal causes such as music education in schools, and we cannot let our rhetoric get so out-of-control that we build un-navigable divides between us where we can never work with each other again.
Country music is the crossroads of the culture war. Because of this, some see it as fertile ground to undermine the conservative ideal of the United States by infiltrating the country industry and undermining its values as opposed to respecting its people and long-held beliefs, while also perhaps asserting a more progressive perspective to erode certain outmoded or prejudicial behaviors that are past their time.
However the anger, vitriol, irresponsible accusations, and other extreme attacks that are occurring now on nearly a daily basis against often innocent parties only looks to undermine the common efforts we all seek to work towards as a music community. Perhaps the Mike Huckabee appointment should have never been made in the first place, for a myriad of reasons. But governing by rule of mob is a dangerous precedent for the country music community to accept, and that is exactly what happened in the case of Mike Huckabee.
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Mike Huckabee’s Resignation Letter:
To the CMA Foundation Board
From Mike Huckabee
March 1, 2018Dear Board Members:
I hereby tender my resignation effective immediately. I hope this will end the unnecessary distraction and deterrent to the core mission of the Foundation which is to help kids acquire musical instruments and have an opportunity to participate in music programs as students.
Since I will not be able to continue in what I had hoped to be useful service in this endeavor, I wanted to at least put some things on the record. I have no expectation that it will change the irrational vitriol directed toward you or me for my religious or political views that necessitated my abrupt departure, but I want you to know what you would never know by reading intolerant and vicious statements on the internet about who I am or what led me to want to be a part of your efforts to empower kids with the gift of music. So please bear with me.
Music changed my life. I grew up dirt poor in south Arkansas. No male upstream from me in my entire family ever even graduated from high school. I had no reason to believe that my life would consist of anything but scratching out a meager living and hoping to pay rent in a house I would never own just as generations before me had done.
Music changed that. The gift of an electric guitar by my parents when I was 11 put in my hands a future. It took them a year to pay for the $99 guitar they bought from the J. C. Penney catalog. Granted, I was never good enough to make a full-time living at music, but the confidence I gained by playing, being in front of people, and competing against myself and the low expectations I grew up with was transformative.
No need to recite my entire history, but I was especially baffled that I was accused of not being supportive of public education. I am the PRODUCT of public education. As Governor my own children were the first children of a Governor in 50 years to have their entire education grades 1-12 in the PUBLIC schools of Arkansas. I fought to give teachers the largest pay raise in state history. I successfully led the effort to allow teachers to retire with full benefits after 28 years of service after my two Democrat predecessors vetoed the same bill. I personally shepherded through legislation that mandated both music AND arts programs for EVERY student in grades 1-12 and taught by fully certified teachers. We were one of the only states to have ever done that.
I was Chairman for 2 years of the Education Commission of the States, comprised of all 50 Governors, education leaders in the Senate and House from all 50 state legislatures, and the state education chief for each of the 50 states. My chosen theme and agenda for those two years was music education for every child. I launched an initiative “Play it Again, Arkansas” that promoted donation of musical instruments that would be professionally refurbished and provided to students whose parents couldn’t afford the rent or purchase of an instrument allowing them to be in the school band. I traveled repeatedly to DC with the NAMM Foundation to advocate for music education and have worked with them for several years to urge states to mandate music and arts education. Now someone who has never met me threatens to wreck valuable programs of the CMA Foundation because of a personal contempt for my faith and politics. I am willing to get out of the way for the sake of the students the Foundation will hopefully help.
If the industry doesn’t want people of faith or who hold conservative and traditional political views to buy tickets and music, they should be forthcoming and say it. Surely neither the artists or the business people of the industry want that.
Until recently, the arts was the one place America could set aside political, geographical, racial, religious, and economic barriers and come together. If the arts community becomes part of the polarization instead of bridging communities and people over the power of civil norms as reflected in the arts, then we as a civilization may not be long for this earth.
All of us have deep passions about our beliefs. I do about mine. But I hate no one. I wish upon NO ONE the loss of life or livelihood because that person sees things differently than me.
I hope that the music and entertainment industry will become more tolerant and inclusive and recognize that a true love for kids having access to the arts is more important than a dislike for someone or a group of people because of who they are or what they believe.
My sincere thanks to the CMA Foundation for believing I had something to contribute. I regret that my presence caused controversy and threats to vital support for deserving kids. Kids wanting to learn music shouldn’t be the victims of adults who demand that only certain people can be in the room or be heard.
I wish you nothing but good will and success at reaching students across America who need music as much as I did. At the end of the day, I’m not worth the fight, but the kids are. Never stop fighting for THEM!
Sincerely,
Mike Huckabee
Cameron
March 5, 2018 @ 7:38 pm
The left needs to purge itself from identity politics and twitter trials. Many young people have traditional leftist viewpoints but are being driven away by the actions of the party. I’m sick of the team mentality when it comes to everything now days. Both sides are full of shit and I don’t have time to care while I’m trying to enjoy my country music.
I don’t agree with much of what Huckabee stands for…..but shit like this makes me more likely to vote for his team.
Gina
March 6, 2018 @ 6:58 am
Thanks for posting, Trigger. I am a left leaning Democrat and this really bothers me. I thought my fellow liberals were about tolerance but I’m seeing that this is less and less the case. I don’t agree with much of what Mike Huckabee says, but from what I’ve learned, he is more than qualified to be on the board of the CMAs. PC culture is destroying us and it only makes the other side dig in deeper. It’s all so ridiculous. It feels like 1984.
Matt
March 6, 2018 @ 7:38 am
Unfortunately, it seems both sides are intolerant of anyone who believes something that they do not. Actually, that’s not correct. It’s not the everyday folks that struggle with cooperating with people that have different beliefs, it’s the people who have positions “high enough” to think that they are important enough to be completely idealistic to a point where they lose sight of what they were fighting for in the first place.
You see that from the people who hold public office to the people that are high on the corporate latter in their field of work, to the people that think having a Twitter, Tumblr, or Facebook makes them important enough to have an opinion that actually matters.
Like you said PC culture is destroying us. It perpetuates the idea that everyone needs to take themselves so damn seriously that they cannot tolerate anything that is against them in any way shape or form, or is against something they believe in any way shape or form. I am not saying that we should return to the political climate or belief systems in the past, but it seems that as a country we have lost sight of what is actually offensive or a problem and is worth getting upset over. Thick Skin != Accepting what someone is saying as true just like being a proponent of Growing Thicker Skin != Advocating people saying outlandish things.
I feel like there’s a happy medium between society’s views 100 years ago and what we have now considering that they are on completely opposite sides of the spectrum. And Alas this is a comment on a blog, but I felt like saying it anyway.
liza
March 6, 2018 @ 12:28 pm
Cameron – this is the original identity politics https://twitter.com/GovMikeHuckabee/with_replies
Glen Murphy
March 6, 2018 @ 4:53 pm
Agree Liza. Mike Huckabee and the new extreme Fox News right went all in on identity politics about a decade ago. Their goal was not to advocate ideas, instead their goal was to make one team hate the other team. How did they do that? Well good ol’ down home folksy Huckabee and others began working toward “othering” difference. It is minorities, liberals, LGBTQ which they attacked from the cover of Christianity. Unconscionable. More recently, the primary target of othering has been immigrants – immigrants are scary, dangerous, and can’t have transgenders using a public washroom because they will attack your children.
Make zero mistake Trigger. Huckabee advocates something very ugly, hurtful, and dangerous. And anyone playing the “both sides” game, is wrong. This is a strategy to divide that Huckabee engages in. David Duke has a “viewpoint” too. And he has a right to it. But we do not accept it and we should not accept dehumanization of others as okay because its just an opinion. There is right and wrong.
Mike Huckabee has spoken to many from the LGBTQ community. He is not changing and he has zero interest in reaching out. How you put Huckabees intransigence on the feet of others is rather a strange rhetorical device devoid of reason. That is like blaming the bank for the bankrobber and suggesting that the bank should have sat down with the robber and gently tried to explain why stealing is wrong before being such a bully and pressing charges.
Trigger, would you allow a 1960s Greensboro lunch counter owner to be on the CMA board for being pro-segregation? If you don’t see the equivalence you are not seeing it. Because Huckabee is cut from the same cloth. He actively fights for less rights for populations of Americans. Segregated by who they love of all things.
Trigger
March 6, 2018 @ 5:19 pm
I really have no idea what you’re getting at here, except to say that your opinion of this article has clearly been filtered through the opinions expressed by others on Twitter, which has made you believe I’m advocating for something that I’m not.
Mike Huckabee should have never been asked to serve on the CMA Foundation. My opinion started and concluded with this fact. I never defended, nor forgave him, or even broached Huckabee’s past behaviors. I simply pointed out that the was qualified for the position, which he was, and that when the controversy swelled, he acted like the bigger man by resigning with dignity.
If you want me to defend Huckabee’s previous opinions or actions, you have come to the wrong place. Yet if you go on Twitter, you would believe I’m advocating for them. This is the scourge of groupthink disseminated in 240 characters.
liza
March 7, 2018 @ 3:32 pm
I didn’t resign with dignity, Trigger. He pulled the Christian card to bring his followers down on country music. “If the industry doesn’t want people of faith or who hold conservative and traditional political views to buy tickets and music, they should be forthcoming and say it.”
It was a shitty thing to do.
Katie Holt
March 5, 2018 @ 7:39 pm
As a transgender person who has been a country fan my entire life, I side with Jason Owen and Chely Wright, as well as Gretchen Peters, who expressed her own opinions about the Huckabee thing on her Twitter account (Gretchen has a trans son, and has no patience for people like Huckabee).
Huckabee had ZERO reason to be anywhere near the CMA board, and the CMA had ZERO reason to appoint him. End of. Disagree all you want, I don’t care. But Mike Huckabee can kiss my transgender ass.
Cameron
March 5, 2018 @ 7:49 pm
“As a transgender person”
Thanks for making my point.
Scotty J
March 5, 2018 @ 7:57 pm
Exactly. Anytime someone starts a comment with ‘as a…’or ‘speaking as a…’ I tune out.
Corncaster
March 5, 2018 @ 7:49 pm
We get it, “Katie”: everything is about you.
RWP
March 5, 2018 @ 8:53 pm
“Mike Hucklebee has zero reason to be anywhere near the cms board” But a Backstreet Boy does Katie Holt?
Justin
March 5, 2018 @ 9:35 pm
You really sound like a “tolerant liberal.” Except not. Your statement is one of the most close minded statements here.
Desperado Destry
March 6, 2018 @ 12:35 am
Justin you said exactly what I was going to say. That’s the problem with the world we live in… there are too many close minded people and that’s why there’s so many problems in the world we live in… because we as a people can’t manage to get past these little issues so we can focus on the big ones.
Carter Burger
March 6, 2018 @ 5:17 am
“Huckabee had ZERO reason to be anywhere near the CMA board…” go back and read the article, not just the headline, and tell the class where you are wrong. Trigger laid out the reasons why the CMAF needed Huckabee, but it flew right over your ‘gayness’.
RD
March 6, 2018 @ 6:18 am
This is why it was such a bad idea to close the asylums.
Jared S.
March 6, 2018 @ 10:25 am
Wow, Katie, I apologize for the insults that you have been subjected to here. The comments are wildly inappropriate and they display at least as much intolerance as anyone else.
To return to the subject, Huckabee may be technically qualified for the position. But any organization has to know that taking on an outspoken political advocate will ring as an endorsement of that person’s values and positions. It is impossible to separate the individual and their skills or connections from their views and statements. The CMAs should never have appointed him.
RD
March 6, 2018 @ 10:49 am
How do you apologize for perceived “insults” made by others? Have you made an apology for the Armenian Genocide yet? If not, you better get to it.
Jared S.
March 6, 2018 @ 11:23 am
How about we just try not to be jackasses, ok?
White Cleats
March 8, 2018 @ 3:44 am
And by “jackasses” you mean “believe something differently than someone else”?
Doug
March 10, 2018 @ 1:50 pm
Hooray Katie Holt! I’m trying hard not to respond angrily to a lot of what I’ve read here (and it’s early in the comments!), but I do want to speak up and support of you. I suspect that a fair number of those who are speaking out so passionately in favor of tolerance here don’t know what’s like to live with intolerance.
Mattdangerously
March 5, 2018 @ 7:41 pm
What if, instead of an outspoken homophobe, he was an outspoken racist? Would you still be blaming everyone but Huckabee?
Trigger
March 5, 2018 @ 8:04 pm
You’re taking it as a given that Mike Huckabee is an “outspoken homophobe” simply because he’s an advocate for the traditional institution of marriage. You can be against gay marriage, and not be afraid of gay people. You can be against gay marriage, and for civil unions and the 100% enfranchisement of rights to gay couples, and civil rights protections from hate crimes. But that ship has sailed anyway. Gay marriage is the law of the land. Mike Huckabee lost.
I’m not here to defend Mike Huckabee. I personally find him as appalling, if not more appalling, as most every politician. But by throwing terms around such as “outspoken homophobe,” you diminish the effectiveness and importance of those words to when you actually need them, they have no potency. I’ll be called an “outspoken homophobe” for posting this article. I was called an outspoken homophobe for criticizing Shane McAnally projects. That accusation has no bearing on my opinion of homosexuals. Of course nobody called me that when I was praising the work of Shane McAnally, Brandy Clark, or Brandi Carlile. Such titles are simply a way to present a superiority, and to vent anger against parties you find undesirable. Which is unfortunate, because there are plenty of “outspoken homophobes” who deserve that distinction.
Cool Lester Smooth
March 6, 2018 @ 6:28 am
No. We’re taking it as a given that Huckabee is an outspoken homophobe…because he’s an outspoken homophobe.
He’s anti-civil unions and anti-adoption by gay couples…even before you get to the shit he said about AIDS during the 90s.
I don’t know Huckabee. He might be a lovely person.
I also can’t blame guys like Owen for not wanting to work with someone who believes they should pay higher taxes and not be able to adopt children, because of whom they love.
RD
March 6, 2018 @ 6:37 am
There is no such thing as “homophobia” and there is no such thing as gay “marriage” or gay “civil unions.” The term “gay” being used to describe a Sodomite is just another example of a word completely divorced from its original meaning. Stop lying and stop making a mockery of the language.
Cool Lester Smooth
March 6, 2018 @ 6:43 am
Awwww, cute.
Now, do you want to go on another rant about the Jews subverting “white” America, sweetheart?
RD
March 6, 2018 @ 7:07 am
Does your shilling for Sodomites get you free rim jobs, or do you just do it because of your guilt? I’m sure it gets awful depressing to hate yourself.
Cool Lester Smooth
March 6, 2018 @ 7:35 am
It’s more that I enjoy how triggered you get by the existence of people different than you, snowflake.
Trainwreck92
March 6, 2018 @ 7:59 pm
Jesus Christ, the thought of someone clutching their pearls over “sodomites” in today’s world is just sad. Also, Homophobia: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals. I’m not sure what makes you think that’s not a thing that exists. Is it because some meany called you a homophobe once and it sounded a little too close to homo for comfort?
Trigger
March 5, 2018 @ 11:50 pm
Also, what can we blame Mike Huckabee for in this situation? He was asked to volunteer for a non profit board of which he was uniquely qualified to serve on, and he accepted. As soon as his presence on that board became a distraction, he resigned, as people demanded he do.
I get it. Folks don’t like things Huckabee has said in the past. But that doesn’t mean he did anything wrong in this instance. You can hate the man with all your heart. But I just can’t craft a scenario in my head where Huckabee handles this particular situation any better than he did, including resigning.
Cool Lester Smooth
March 6, 2018 @ 6:45 am
I don’t think Huckabee did anything wrong.
I also don’t think Owen and Chely did anything wrong.
The CMA should have known better than to pick a guy who openly claims that some people should have to pay higher taxes, and not be able to adopt children, because of the circumstances of their birth.
Trigger
March 6, 2018 @ 8:44 am
In these instances, everybody loses. Mike Huckabee is attacked even though he did nothing but accept a volunteer position he was qualified for. The CMA is attacked for its shortsightedness and for inviting Mike Huckabee in the first place. Owen is attacked for being bigoted and closed-minded, and expecting the world to bend to his desires. Chely is attacked for overstepping bounds and making ridiculous accusations. And I am attacked for being a homophobe for reporting on the story, and pointing out the obvious.
That is why ALL parties involved need to attempt to avoid these types of scenarios because it is unhealthy for everyone. The CMA is ultimately to blame for appointing someone who would stir such controversy, but it’s dependent on all of us to be cool-headed and conversational to resolve these issues, as opposed to resort to character assassination and extreme accusations (like Huckabee’s resignation will kill gay kids) just because we want “our side” to win. Like Huckabee said, if we can’t come together in music, humanity is not long for this world. And that’s not hyperbole.
Cool Lester Smooth
March 6, 2018 @ 9:13 am
I don’t really think Owen gives a damn about the people who think he’s “close-minded” for not wanting someone who doesn’t believe he deserves the same legal rights as other Americans to represent the community he operates in, haha.
And, again, Huckabee did nothing wrong in taking the job when offered…but he is, very much, “an outspoken homophobe.”
You are not, and his being one is not your cross to bear.
liza
March 6, 2018 @ 12:19 pm
Huckabee’s letter was written to further divide. He took the lower road. He blew it last.
Doug
March 10, 2018 @ 2:30 pm
Hey, Trigger, I admire your writing and love your web site, as I’ve said many times before, but this idea that politics has no place in music is absurd. Art is a vehicle of expression, and artists can and do express themselves on pretty much any subject under the sun, politics included. Do you really think Merle’s “Fightin’ Side of Me” or Dylan’s “The Lonesome Death of Hatie Carroll,” to name two of what could be hundreds of examples, aren’t political, or that they don’t count as music? Choose the examples that say what you agree with, but don’t tell me they’re about pulling us all together. Nor should they be, necessarily.
Trigger
March 10, 2018 @ 3:40 pm
Doug,
I have never said that artists shouldn’t or don’t have the right to broach politics with their music. At times, it’s arguably necessary. They also run the risk of angering certain fans if they do, and so it always comes with the caution, but obviously at times music and politics have either mixed well, or could mix well in the future.
That said, this situation with Mike Huckabee became an absolute shit show, tearing country music apart, creating dividing lines, divisiveness, and breaking personal relationships, including multiple ones I had with fellow colleagues in the country music media pool. The CMA made a catastrophic mistake by appointing a politician to their music board. This is the PERFECT example of why politics and music don’t mix in certain circumstances. And then angry folks made it even worse by exacerbating the issue and making it a forum to spew venom and pure hatred, dividing the country music populous even further.
I can’t think of a better example of why politics and music should try to steer clear of each other than this situation. It was catastrophic in many ways. If artists want to broach politics with their music, that’s their right. But institutions such as the CMA should avoid it at all costs. They are 2 for 2 in veering into the political space, and sparking off an utter shit show.
Politics destroyed the career of the Dixie Chicks, fair or not. It turned Sturgill Simpson from one of the most revered artists in music to one of the most polarizing. It’s divisive and a vehicle for hate, and only hurts the ability for music to create consensus, and to break down the barriers around hard hearts.
Doug
March 10, 2018 @ 4:25 pm
The CMA obviously stepped in shit, but Huckabee, good guy that he may be in some respects, is rightly going to be judged on the basis of positions he’s taken politically, positions I, like many others, find reprehensible. The political divisiveness of the country today is tragic, no question, and I have my own opinions about who started it and who didn’t, opinions in direct opposition to many of the views stated here. The fact remains, here we are. It’s not time, in my opinion, to say we can all get along whatever our political beliefs. We’re past that point, and there’s too much at stake for that. It’s time to resist.
Messer
March 6, 2018 @ 7:20 am
Not agreeing with gay marriage doesn’t make you a homophobe. I don’t agree with it. One of my best friends is gay and I talk to to her every day. Am I a homophobe? I think not
Cool Lester Smooth
March 6, 2018 @ 9:15 am
Do you agree with Civil Unions that confer all the legal rights of marriage?
Messer
March 6, 2018 @ 9:27 am
No. I believe that a marriage is between a man and a woman, and therefore a same sex “marriage” deserves no rights. It’s funny how in 1996 Bill Clinton believed the same thing, yet no one is calling him a homophobe.
Cool Lester Smooth
March 6, 2018 @ 9:39 am
Hm?
A) No one has ever accused Bill Clinton of “believing” anything, haha.
B) The Clintons have been pro-civil unions for 20 years, at this point.
At the end of the day, I don’t think people born differently from me should pay higher taxes, and have additional obstacles to adoption.
Chris
March 6, 2018 @ 6:34 pm
Oh, here we go again… “I’m not a racist, I have black friends. Therefore, I’m not prejudiced.” Nice try.
If you believe that some people ought to be kept second-class citizens because of their sexual orientation (which is not a choice, or at least not always, and even if it were, it’s nobody’s business) – and keep in mind there is a difference between civil marriage and holy matrimony performed in a church – then that, though you may try to rationalize it all you want by cloaking it in religion, is prejudice, bigotry and hate.
And that’s all I’m going to say, as this is not the place for this debate.
Messer
March 6, 2018 @ 7:05 pm
To Chris: “He doesn’t agree with me, I’ll call him a racist, sexist, homophobe, bigot, etc”
This is the very definition of bigotry.
bigot
[big-uh t]
noun
a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.
Messer
March 6, 2018 @ 8:41 pm
To Cool Lester and to Chris and to anyone else that has different beliefs than I, I must apologize, for this is not the place for the type of comments that I have been putting. I have nothing against anyone and this is a country music website, and I get on this site to read about country music, which I love. I take it that’s everyone on here is a country music fan as well or you wouldn’t be here. I have tickets to see Colter Wall in Knoxville in April and although the odds are small, if I were to have seats next to any one of the people who may read this, we are not going to be caring about our political views. We are going to be enjoying each other’s company and appreciating the talent of Mister Wall, and on a country music site, that is what should matter. I am sorry if I offended anyone.
King Honky Of Crackershire
March 6, 2018 @ 10:31 am
Mattdangerously,
No, certainly not. Race is immutable.
Scotty J
March 5, 2018 @ 7:43 pm
Live and let live has become agree and approve of my lifestyle or else I will ruin you.
Great.
Corncaster
March 5, 2018 @ 7:47 pm
Jason Owen is a disgrace.
Desperado Destry
March 6, 2018 @ 12:42 am
More like a slime bastard that doesn’t give a damn about anything or anyone else but himself and his wallet.
Matt S
March 5, 2018 @ 7:54 pm
Another example of the minority ruling this country. What a disgrace.
Mike W.
March 6, 2018 @ 10:00 am
Really? Huckabee’s views are now the minority actually.
http://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/changing-attitudes-on-gay-marriage/
It’s fine to support Huckabee in this case, I’m not gonna quibble with you on that, but let’s not pretend that Huckabee’s views are shared by a majority of this Country anymore. America is much more tolerant than many in the media (on the right and left) would lead you to believe.
Matt S
March 6, 2018 @ 10:57 am
Mike,
My comment was more in the prism of the fact I think it’s ridiculous that Huckabee felt forced to resign just because a select vocal few complained about it.
I do agree with you regarding your comment on the media.
ScottG
March 6, 2018 @ 12:07 pm
That poll must be “fake.”
Sad that I would have to say it but that was sarcasm. I don’t think this would have happened if it was a minority belief or value to call out homophobia.
I don’t agree with Huckabee’s (social) politics but I really liked his letter and agree with some of the things he is saying.
However, it should come as no surprise that a public figure who could be considered notorious for his “traditional” views as he calls them, is questioned for this role. Is it right, wrong? Either way it is not surprising at all. I too see problematic issues with the cultural landscape on issues like this. However, the days of individuals or groups not being confronted for wanting to restrict rights to a large group of Americans (call it his beliefs, call it what you will – it still discriminates – as Lester Smooth keeps pointing out), are just getting started, and situations like these are just the beginning. Some (an increasingly smaller number) of people are still holding on to these “traditional” beliefs, much in the same way that some people did when women were given the right to vote. Some day we will move on and not give a shit about who a person wants to be with and talk about things that actually effect our day to day lives.
Waambulance
March 5, 2018 @ 7:55 pm
Mike Huckabee is one classy guy. He simply cannot win. In the eyes of lots of people, anyone who believes in traditional marriage is a hateful, bigoted, racist, homophobic xenophone who deserves to die in front of his family and burn in hell.
Cool Lester Smooth
March 6, 2018 @ 6:29 am
I thoroughly enjoy the irony of your name.
Waambulance
March 6, 2018 @ 2:14 pm
Oh good. Anytime a liberal enjoys my post, I can sleep peacefully again. Thank you
Cool Lester Smooth
March 6, 2018 @ 2:18 pm
Thank God.
Listening to you cry all night has been driving your mother and I crazy.
King Honky Of Crackershire
March 6, 2018 @ 7:57 pm
Who doesn’t love a good, old-fashioned ‘mom joke’ every now and then?
Chris
March 6, 2018 @ 6:36 pm
No one cares what you believe. You can believe the moon is made of green cheese for all I care. The problem is when you insist that your interpretation of your religion apply to everyone. This nation is not a theocracy.
MH
March 7, 2018 @ 7:37 am
You mean like when you and your ilk insist that YOUR interpretation of religion applies to everyone?
Cool Lester Smooth
March 9, 2018 @ 4:20 pm
Hm?
To be clear:
Are you claiming that someone who believes their interpretation of religion should not be legally mandated upon anyone, is in fact “insisting that THEIR interpretation of religion applies to everyone”?
If so…I’m incredibly impressed by your ability to hold true to what you believe, even when the very words you use to justify those beliefs refute them.
wayne
March 5, 2018 @ 8:01 pm
Thanks Trigger for posting this. Can’t disagree with any of it. “Tolerance” only applies to those who have left-of-center views. We see it nationally everywhere. Self-fulfilling prophecy.
Lil Dale savin country music hall of fame membre class of 2015
March 5, 2018 @ 8:02 pm
may be jason owenes cud get ole billary clinton to take the job she aint bizy rite now
James O
March 5, 2018 @ 8:15 pm
Me and a lot of other conservatives are boycotting anyone inlvolved with Jason Owen now
Katie
March 5, 2018 @ 8:36 pm
Thank you. I’ve been waiting to see if you would cover this. I’m disheartened. I love the music of my favorite left-leaning artists, but sometimes it would appear that they wouldn’t want me around if they knew my politics. I’ve only ever seen Huckabee show class and poise and yes, even love. This charade has done nothing but further divide us when there is no need for it. If he agreed to work with them for a common goal, that should be seen as a step in the right direction and not a threat. “Ever since the beginning, to keep the world spinning, it takes all kinds of kinds.”
Desperado Destry
March 6, 2018 @ 12:56 am
Yeah… and you know what else might push kids to suicide? Dumbasses like Chely who throw the subject around so casually.
Clint
March 5, 2018 @ 8:51 pm
Depressing, I don’t know how else you can put it. Can the reasonable people be put back in charge? The extremes are ruining everything good
RollieB
March 5, 2018 @ 8:56 pm
Chely Wright is spot-on in her open letter regarding Huckabee. Huckabee has worked hard to position himself publicly as a right-wing religious homophobe. He now must live with his calculated public persona and reap the consequences.
“This is your brand, Mr. Huckabee. And your brand is precisely why there was such an explosion of outrage that you’d become the newest member of the CMA Foundation Board.”
MH
March 5, 2018 @ 9:48 pm
“An explosion of outrage.”
In your world, this was a fertilizer bomb.
In reality, it was a dud firecracker.
Jake
March 5, 2018 @ 9:48 pm
That’s fine if you think she is spot on with that point, but to say his resignation letter would push children to commit suicide is ridiculous.
Desperado Destry
March 6, 2018 @ 1:00 am
Yeah… and you know what else might push kids to suicide? Dumbasses like Chely who throw the subject around so casually.
RD
March 6, 2018 @ 6:21 am
You know what else might drive kids to suicide? An untreated mental illness.
Mike W.
March 6, 2018 @ 9:41 am
Please explain to me how Chely Wright is “pushing kids to suicide”.
Because in reality, I suspect it is much more likely that LGBTQ kids get “pushed” into suicide because of people like Huckabee that do everything in their power so that they feel excluded from society and are seen as social pariahs.
Desperado Destry
March 6, 2018 @ 10:10 am
I never said Huckabee was right… but Chely Wright saying that his resignation letter is going to cause kids to commit suicide is absurd. I have a friend who’s son committed suicide so I know about the mindset one goes through. When you’re in a dark place where you are contemplating taking your own life you don’t want people attaching it to things that aren’t even relevant to the situation. It’s like telling someone with cancer who has six months to live I know what you’re going through.
DJ
March 6, 2018 @ 10:30 am
Subliminal persuasion works through repetition- an admired role model saying it authenticates/validates it.
Kids are more susceptible and like most chronological adults they hear what they want to hear. Also, seeing it in the news is a persuader. They haven’t lived long enough to see a temporary problem doesn’t require a permanent solution. Not saying she is alone in saying it, but, with many “adults(?)” (admired role models saying what you blame is true)- (blaming Huckabee or his beliefs) the negative is always easier to assume than the positive, thus needing less repetition to effect. It begins at home. Period. Everyone is wired different. Some more obvious than others. One has to accept one self and that begins at home. It isn’t Huckabee’s fault, or his beliefs. It asn’t anyone’s “fault”. It isn’t the CMA’s fault, or Trumps- or Donald Ducks. Pointing a finger usually leaves 3 pointing back. That’s 3 to 1 in favor of the majority. If they did indeed have positive rearing and still chose to end their life, it’s their fault- the victims are those left crying and did, in fact, promote self acceptance. Who do they blame?
Cate
March 5, 2018 @ 8:59 pm
Huckabee might have been tolerable in the past but not anymore. We have him agreeing with every stupid move Trump makes & have to listen to his kid lie about everything under the sun at press conferences. So no I don’t care if he is qualified on some parts of the job- his character, the way he speaks & treats others is currently intolerable.
Side note, shouldn’t CMA board be made of individuals who have worked in Country music? So sick of another example of us opening up doors to those who have no idea of our history.
Trigger
March 5, 2018 @ 9:19 pm
The CMA Foundation is an organization specifically set up to support music education in schools, something Mike Huckabee is uniquely qualified for since he is a musician, has advocated and worked for the National Endowment of the arts, and has a wealth of experience of working with music in public schools. The CMA Foundation isn’t even specifically about country music. It’s about spreading the knowledge and love of all music through the education for the betterment of society.
Huckabee may be a Trump puppet and his daughter a laughing stock, but he happens to be very uniquely qualified for the position he was appointed to. But in the current political environment, none of that matters. The focus will be on irrelevant concerns.
Justin
March 5, 2018 @ 9:43 pm
Even many of the gays I know are tiring of the self righteous SJWs.
Ulysses McCaskill
March 5, 2018 @ 10:12 pm
How about Jimmy Kimmel on the Oscars last night? That was as cringeworthy as I’ve ever seen.
Justin
March 5, 2018 @ 10:46 pm
I can’t stand Jimmy Kimmel anymore. He used to be funny, now he has just turned into an annoying SJW who is obsessed with Trump. Its laughable that he is suddenly the “moral authority.” The man who used to ask underage girls to touch his crotch area.
Barstool Hero
March 6, 2018 @ 5:55 am
Yep. Anyone else remember “Girls jumping on trampolines”?
Mike W.
March 6, 2018 @ 1:22 pm
Ironically, Kimmel’s show was largely the “forgotten” late show until he got political. Now his ratings have risen and Fallon, the one who avoids being political, is seeing his ratings plummet. Not saying Kimmel is great or the Oscars were good (they weren’t) but clearly the number of people who are interested in what he is doing outnumbers the number of people who have dropped off as a result of his new perspective/approach.
Scotty J
March 6, 2018 @ 1:33 pm
There are more late night shows than ever and a smaller audience than ever therefore they are all attempting to get a piece of a smaller pie. So why try to play to a broader more diverse audience when you can go all in on one side of the spectrum. That is what Colbert and Kimmel are really doing.
On a wider cultural level it is also why we have less shared cultural touchstones. It is not a good sign for society in general.
Gina
March 6, 2018 @ 7:03 am
We’re all tired of them.
Todd Villars
March 5, 2018 @ 9:46 pm
Mike Huckabee is a good man and he would have been a fantastic representative for the CMA. They talk about Conservatives as being intolerable but they can’t see that they are more intolerable than we are. We live in a free country, I may not believe the same thing you do but that’s what made this country great, there is no more give and take, you are either on one side of the fence or the other. One of these days someone is going to lose and this country is real close to losing everything our ancestors fought and died for. We need to stop this bickering in this country and come together because you won’t like what the outcome will be if it keeps going this way.
Jeff Tappan
March 5, 2018 @ 9:57 pm
The CMA needs to be honest with and about itself. It claims to be apolitical, yet its politics are decidedly lerft-wing. It claims to be about country music, yet it’s a group whose style is pop/hick-hop/R & B/ACR. It’s purely driven by money and self-adulation. No wonder people call the toen Trashville..
Ulysses McCaskill
March 5, 2018 @ 10:10 pm
Behavior such as this is what the Democratic Party has unfortunately and pathetically become. For a political moderate like myself, the incessant accusations of racism, sexism, and any other kind of ‘isms you can think of are getting really damn old. Come up with an original argument instead of blindly labeling everyone you disagree with as a monster. Even though I hold a number of viewpoints that may be considered “leftist”, my support for gun rights and my being anti-political correctness has made it easier and easier to lean right in most elections. To the Democratic Party…Get your shit together and stop acting like socialist crybabies. Not everything can be made free, we have a right to defend ourselves, someone isn’t automatically a racist or homophobe because you call them one, and not everything needs to be made into a giant social justice issue.
As for Jason Owen, we already knew from the acts he manages that he wants nothing to do with real country music. But his pathetically immature rant against Huckabee here firmly cements him as a world-class jackass and crybaby.
“Not to mention how harmful and damaging his deep involvement with the NRA is.” -Owen
I’m going to go out on a relatively short limb here and suspect that almost nobody who is complaining about the NRA in every other sentence they spew from their uninformed mouths knows much of anything about what the NRA actually does or knows any details about its origins or is willing to do any research beyond what they hear on CNN.
This is getting beyond pathetic.
Get a life.
Gina
March 6, 2018 @ 7:04 am
Exactly. And I’m a lifelong Democrat.
Clyde
March 6, 2018 @ 10:58 am
Not sure Jason Owen is speaking for the Democratic Party.
Ulysses McCaskill
March 6, 2018 @ 6:41 pm
He may not be speaking directly as a representative of the party, but behavior like his is the general direction the party has been trending in for awhile. Hard-working middle class Americans don’t like putting up with that bullshit, as evidenced by November of 2016.
scott
March 7, 2018 @ 6:45 am
Good God, this. 1000% this. CNN chalked it up to racists on election night. You have spelled it out so well. Thank you!
Dane
March 5, 2018 @ 10:33 pm
You are so wrong on so many levels it’s incomprehensible. Wow.
That said, it’s your site so go right ahead.
Dane
March 5, 2018 @ 10:34 pm
Only crybaby I see here is you snowflake
scott
March 6, 2018 @ 8:07 am
Way to bring it. Great contribution to the discussion. Here’s your participation ribbon…
Marc
March 5, 2018 @ 10:41 pm
“Studies have found that GLBT youth attempt suicide more than 3 times more frequently than their heterosexual counterparts.
Among youth who attempted suicide, almost twice as many GLBT youth said they really hoped to die
Of transgender people, between 30-45% report having attempted suicide.”
Pretty sure these suicide rates have nothing to do with Huckabee’s resignation letter.
Missy
March 5, 2018 @ 11:56 pm
Marc- it’s LGTBQ. If ya can’t even get that part right…. Bless your heart!
Marc
March 6, 2018 @ 4:37 pm
Missy, I sure hope suicide rates don’t go up because a mental health source decided to use GLBT.
Trigger
March 6, 2018 @ 12:09 am
In the extremely volatile and emotional realm of politics at the moment, people who are otherwise very rationale and intelligent will make the most extreme, senseless, and diseased statements for the sole purpose of expending unchecked anger at whomever they have decided to destroy on that particular day, and it is justified by the self-righteousness of themselves and others as being morally superior. All of their anger towards Trump, towards Congress, towards their noisy next door neighbor, towards their unrealized dreams gets channeled toward one subject, and all decorum and perspective are thrown out the window. You lie, you embellish, you go to the most extreme until you portray your enemy as the most evil creature that has ever walked the earth. They are Hitler. They are Satan.
I think Chely Wright and others were intimidated by the cool-mindedness and wisdom Mike Huckabee expressed in his letter. I think they were disappointed he resigned so quickly because they wanted to use him as a punching bag for longer. They wanted to attack others for appointing him. They wanted to completely purge anyone and everyone at the CMAs who doesn’t think like they do, and here Mike Huckabee is saying, “I hope we can see eye to eye in the future and work together. Sorry for being a distraction.”
And so what better way to refute it all than to insinuate it would result in people killing themselves.
Chris31
March 5, 2018 @ 10:44 pm
The LGTB seems to want to force you to see their point of view. The fact is I don’t have a problem with who a particular person decides to love. I count some of my best friends as gay and know that as a friend they would do anything I need them to do and visversa. I see them as a “person” and not as gay or strait. I think that what is in your hart matters much more than who you share your bed with.
But I do have a problem with being forced to believe a certain way. And that’s exactly the hand the LGBT community plays. If your views do not line up 100% with their views then you are a homophobe and you probably hate the LGBT community and what it stands for. Shaming people into seeing your point of view doesn’t work. It only creates anger and frustration. And that anger and frustration turns into a devide. And aren’t we are already devided enough as it is?
Lindsey
March 5, 2018 @ 11:20 pm
“…it is not illegal, or even abnormal to be Christian, conservative, or pro-gun.”
I need to have have that printed on a bunch of tshirts and wear them everywhere I go from now on.
Desperado Destry
March 6, 2018 @ 1:14 am
Yeah so do I. My “Christian” neighbors complain every year when I decorate my house for Christmas. This year I might put that quote next to the nativity scene. Haha.
DJ
March 6, 2018 @ 6:51 am
Amen! And I’m agnostic.
Lance
March 5, 2018 @ 11:29 pm
Mike is a musician??? Cool, i like him more now that i know that. And his daughter slays those idiot biased tard ” reporters”
Kristopher Kerr
March 6, 2018 @ 12:03 am
Country music is bigger than the bubble a lot of people purposefully choose to live in. No matter how qualified Huckabee was for the position, his words and actions have consequences that reverberated louder than any good he has done in this world. He was a terrible choice to represent the the CMA Board. They could and should do better.
Trigger
March 6, 2018 @ 10:08 am
I agree.
marmarbama
March 6, 2018 @ 10:28 am
Huckabee’s ” words and actions” in his personal and professional life probably have more honesty and integrity than most people pontificating on his selection for the CMA board. And I do not consider him a puppet as he has always spoken his mind and been steadfast to his beliefs. And His daughter does a fantastic job in front of the petty, mindless, reproachful firing squad of pseudo journalists and their daily feeding frenzy, so no need to insult her. Huckabee was extremely qualified and willing to serve. True to far left form, he was crucified for considering serving while keeping his own beliefs. What the hell? So sick of this narrative….
King Honky Of Crackershire
March 6, 2018 @ 10:36 am
Kristopher,
I disagree. Mike Schmuckabee was a perfect fit for the job.
A man who disingenuously pimps himself out as something he’s not, working for an organization that disingenuously misrepresents what it actually represents. It was a match made in Heaven.
Desperado Destry
March 6, 2018 @ 1:48 am
“We live in an era when the measure of equality for some is to make everyone as equally miserable as the most miserable person alive”. Once again… hit the nail dead on the head Trigger. I’ve had the exact thing happen to myself and friends of mine time and time again and what it narrows down to is that nobody wants to build bridges. Albeit the CMA Foundation should’ve known better… however if Jason Owen would’ve put himself aside for five minutes and thought about what Mike Huckabee was capable of giving… a bridge would have been built. But instead the damage was done. The bridge burned. The CMA Foundation lost a great contribution. Owen got his way. Not to mention politics arising in this whole debacle causing more division in country music. And who ultimately suffers from it all? Kids. Children. Our youth. The bridge that we burn today might be the one we need to cross tomorrow… that goes for me and my next door neighbor and Mike Huckabee and Jason Owen.
Trigger
March 6, 2018 @ 10:18 am
If America is 50% Democrat, and 50% Republican, and you need a majority to get anything done, those rare moments of consensus and unity must be exploited. Republicans rarely advocate for public funding for arts in schools,and are rarely proponents for the National Endowment for the Arts. Mike Huckabee’s consensus with liberals on this subject posed an opportunity to to get something done, and secure more funding for this effort for music in schools. Working with Huckabee and others on the subject is in no way a ringing endorsement of their views on marriage or anything else. It is simply pragmatism to get something done. I don’t fault anybody for disliking Huckabee for his views on certain subjects. But if anything is ever going to get done, we are going to have to learn to work with people we don’t always nagree with. Mike Huckabee never said he wouldn’t work with gay people, didn’t refuse the CMA appointment because there were gay people in the country industry. He put the common purpose first, as we all should.
Corncaster
March 6, 2018 @ 11:19 am
Unlike others, Huckabee didn’t take it out on the kids. Their musical benefit was his concern, not his own puritanical sanctimony.
BrandonWard
March 6, 2018 @ 2:15 am
Well written article, Trigger. I know your politics don’t agree with mine, but guess what? I don’t care. I don’t come to this site for political diatribe & debate. I come here for the same reason we all do – a genuine love of country music. I’m not that old, but I remember a time when politics and political beliefs weren’t discussed outside of the family and people seemed to get along much better because of it.
At least Huckabee handled the resignation with class. Welcome to the new America, where we only want free speech when it includes ramming a leftist agenda down everyone’s throat.
jessie with the long hair
March 6, 2018 @ 3:51 am
Here’s what I find interesting about this:
Chely Wright hasn’t been relevant for 20 years. She uses this kind of thing to get some attention. Just like she did with her 9/11 song.
Jason Owens is only relevant in country music. Huckabee is a national figure.
Owens manages “Little Big Town” a group of Super Duper Conservative Christians from Williamson County, Tennessee which is a Whiteyville suburb just outside of Nashville. Folks around here call them “Brentwood Mac!”
James O
March 6, 2018 @ 1:16 pm
Ur saying little big town is a group of conservatives? What they’re song girl crush?
jessie with the long hair
March 6, 2018 @ 3:09 pm
Girl Crush and Day Drinking are Little Big Town playing the game and making money. I’m saying their background is running in Super Christian circles and churches in Williamson County. A very conservative group working with Jason Owens.
Thoroughbred
March 6, 2018 @ 4:21 am
The left has twisted Christianity beyond recognition in the eyes of our youth. They and the media want millennials to believe that christians are racist, sexist, and homophobic and therefore need to be eradicated or bullied into changing. I’m not saying every Christian is not…heck, we are all sinners that struggle with our flesh because we are human with original sin. But we have a role model.
That role model is the difference between every other religion. Every other religion is based on what you have to do to “achieve” salvation. Do this, abide by that, become this. Christianity is the belief that someone already did everything for you and you just need to receive His invitation. We are all sinners. And God sent His only son Jesus Christ to live the only perfect life on this Earth, die for all of our sins, and then be raised from the grave as proof that if anyone believes in Him, they will have eternal life.
Key word for this topic…anyone. White, black, rich, poor, right, left, gay, straight, American, Muslim… anyone. Which means
Mike W.
March 6, 2018 @ 9:50 am
The religious right has done a hell of a job pushing Millennials away as well, not just the left. I suspect that the reason religious affiliation has been dropping in the country for decades now, has a lot to do with the various religious organizations in America not exactly living up to their own brand and young people seeing that and turning away. It’s hard to say you truly care about the poor and sick, when your pastor is rolling around private Golf courses on private jets or when a Priest is cause molesting children and the Church tries to cover it up. Sections of the left have definitely demonized various religions in America, but these religions haven’t exactly done a good job at not giving them ammunition.
Thoroughbred
March 6, 2018 @ 10:27 am
Sadly, you are correct. But many churches have made it a huge priority to reach this younger demographic and my prayers are with them.
Thoroughbred
March 6, 2018 @ 4:22 am
Dang phone, which means it’s the most inclusive religion. God loves you no matter who you are.
Cool Lester Smooth
March 6, 2018 @ 6:33 am
Well, if you follow what Christ actually taught, it’s certainly the most inclusive religion.
Unfortunately, the Huckabees of the world tend to leave that part out in favor of Pauline bullshit that justifies their prejudices.
King Honky Of Crackershire
March 6, 2018 @ 9:27 am
Have you ever wondered why The Lord Jesus never specifically addressed sodomy? And I mean seriously wondered and thought about it, beyond your simple, socially liberal presuppositions about who the Judeo-Christian God is, and what he stands for?
Why would the all knowing, creator of all things, designer of the human anatomy, feel the need to address the differences between the reproductive and digestive systems, and the purposes for which they were designed?
The position you’re taking in regards to Jesus versus Paul is beneath you I think, and it tells me you’ve never really contemplated it.
Trigger
March 6, 2018 @ 9:54 am
Let’s please keep this conversation on topic, and not veer into other topics that could be even more contentious than the topic at hand.
Thanks.
Clyde
March 6, 2018 @ 11:31 am
I don’t like this any more than you do. But unfortunately this is not off topic. This is about Mike Huckabee’s views and peoples reactions to them. The views of Mike Huckabee that are being opposed derive directly from his religious beliefs. Let’s not presume Huckabee has any original thoughts on these matters.
Seak05
March 6, 2018 @ 4:56 am
You can’t have a board that’s about inclusivity and include someone whose past political positions include denying rights to a group of people based on race, sex, or sexual orientation. Human rights shouldn’t be political, but many conservatives have chosen to make them so. When you include someone on your board who has been publicly & vocally opposed to lgbtq rights it sends a message, same as if you included someone who was opposed to women working outside the home, or interracial marriage, both of which have been past political positions. Sorry, but it’s completely reasonable to not want someone who has endorsed state sponsored discrimination on their board.
Corncaster
March 6, 2018 @ 1:11 pm
I see it differently, Seak.
What I see is so-called “progressives” in favor of eugenic manipulation, unrestricted abortion (especially of black children), the ghettoization of black and hispanic Americans in “public housing projects,” the constant over-politicization of language, education, and culture, and near-total anti-male and anti-Christian prejudice, particularly in Hollywood, but increasingly, everywhere. If you want to live in a PC dystopia, you’re welcome to it. Not me.
By the way, based on what you’ve written above, would you permit a Muslim on the CMA board? Or a black Christian pastor with orthodox views on marriage and human sexuality? Would you have been alright with Senator Robert Byrd, a KKK leader who took repulsive “past political positions,” on the board? Before sensing with the Civil Rights Act that anti-racism was a winning political platform, many of the proponents of institutionalized racism were Democrats.
Cool Lester Smooth
March 9, 2018 @ 4:16 pm
You’ve got it backwards, hon.
The “proponents of institutionalized racism” didn’t change their views, when LBJ forced the CRA through.
They changed their party.
(See: Thurmond, Strom and countless others)
RD
March 9, 2018 @ 5:54 pm
Its much more complicated than that. Nixon’s Southern Strategy, to peel away Southern law and order voters, generally resulted in the more moderate Southern Democrats switching to the Republican Party. For the most part, the Democrats who continued to deal with the race issue, remained Democrats into the 1990’s. As late as the 1990’s, the Southern congressional delegation was still heavily Democratic. I read a book a while back about Robert Bork’s SCOTUS nomination and eventual defeat. It noted that if he had been nominated ten years later, he almost assuredly would have been confirmed by a wide margin. The major change happened during and post-Clinton.
ShadeGrown
March 6, 2018 @ 5:28 am
I’m not even gonna bother reading the comments on this one. Good article. Couldn’t agree with you more about his qualifications and the fact that he shouldn’t have even been considered.
Aggc
March 6, 2018 @ 7:42 am
But as with any article, the comments are always the best part! 😉
Jared Plemons
March 6, 2018 @ 6:28 am
I find it funny that Jason Owens has gotten rich off of people that would more closely identify with Mike Huckabee than they would Owens. With the way that country music fans like to boycott, I’m not sure this was the smartest move for him. Guess time will tell.
DJ
March 6, 2018 @ 6:49 am
Well written article Trigger- and thank you for giving forum to the intolerant showing their tolerance- ROFLMFAO- imagine the tolerant (moral high ground) trying to ‘force’ (immoral) their beliefs on others. Great example (best teacher)! ROFLMFAO- introspect isn’t alive and well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J44juKDeLnQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEsCbyfA2Us
King Honky Of Crackershire
March 6, 2018 @ 9:12 am
Whoa man. Don’t roll on the floor. You’ll get your britches dirty.
King Honky Of Crackershire
March 6, 2018 @ 7:13 am
Mike Schmuckabee is a lying, crony-capitalist shyster.
“Homophobe” is a made up propaganda word that has no applicable meaning. So this isn’t even a legitimate attack on Mike Schmuckabee.
We should all hate Mike Schmuckabee, for the same reasons we hate Hellary Clinton and Dastardly Don….
They are all liars, who will do anything to gain power over you.
But, Schmuckabee did speak at The Possum’s funeral, so he’s obviously a Country Music fan.
ScottG
March 6, 2018 @ 7:07 pm
I often don’t agree with you but I love that you hate both sides…You are an interesting specimen Honkey.
Kross
March 6, 2018 @ 8:17 am
good article and great points. Huckabee was the best and worst person they probably could have chosen. I like Huckabee, and believe him to be a good man, but unfortunately the world we live in requires the CMA to think 5 steps ahead of the virtue signalers and social justice warriors.
Mike W.
March 6, 2018 @ 9:30 am
Nah, Huckabee was far from the best choice for the job and the CMA got bit on the ass for it. His job would have essentially been raising funds and acting as a “face” for the organization. Huckabee probably would have done a great job pulling in the religious right dollars, but do you really think he would have been able to secure donations from more liberal sources? Plus, his previous political and cultural statements would have turned attention away from the cause he was advocating for and placed it on himself.
It’s fine for the CMA’s to pick a cultural conservative to be the “face” of the organization, but it was incredibly stupid for them to pick someone who is as incredibly divisive of a figure as Huckabee is. Especially when the job he would have had would not have been a political one really.
Kross
March 6, 2018 @ 10:14 am
that’s why I said “best and worst person they could have chosen” I believe him be as qualified on paper as anyone. But, even though I agree with most of his beliefs, I also recognize that he can be somewhat polarizing. Hence, the statement that the CMA needs to stay 5 steps ahead of the virtue signalers. Nobody needs that headache. So, it’s probably just easier to find someone with less baggage that is still qualified.
Corncaster
March 6, 2018 @ 12:37 pm
So the SJW types get to rule. No thanks. What should’ve happened was this: Owen should’ve said “while I disagree strongly with Mr. Huckabee’s perspective on a range of political and social issues, I look forward to working with him to secure good things for all children who love music.”
THAT would have been the honorable thing to do. But no, Owen and his ilk are crybullies and will take their ball and bat and go home if everyone on the team doesn’t wear the same matching socks and sing the same song. What a crybully, and the children Mr. Huckabee would’ve helped — all those children — get to suffer so that Owen and his gay identity politics buddies can feel self-righteous and powerful.
It’s all about who is to be master. I have gay friends who complain about gay militarism; and they have the wounds and scars to show for it.
Mike W.
March 6, 2018 @ 1:30 pm
So Huckabee gets a pass for his comments, some of which have been extremely over-the-top and that people should just look the other way?
This isn’t Brendan Eich man. Do some research on that case. THAT is a case of someone who got pushed out by SJW’s, even though his history was one that he didn’t support Gay marriage, he respected Gay people. Judging from Huckabee’s past statements, he hides behind the Bible as an excuse to hate. I feel no sympathy for him here, like I do Eich.
Annalise Domenighini
March 6, 2018 @ 8:53 am
Why are you supporting the CMAs don’t you hate them? Seems like you’re mad that people are mad about Huckabee. The personal is political man ask literally anyone.
Annalise Domenighini
March 6, 2018 @ 9:00 am
You’re comin’ off real white supremacist here man, are you a white supremacist? I gotta ask.
MH
March 6, 2018 @ 1:32 pm
LOL!
Word-for-word out of the SJW playbook.
Annalise Domenighini
March 6, 2018 @ 2:56 pm
Who leaked it to you? That should be private, like the gay agenda.
King Honky Of Crackershire
March 6, 2018 @ 2:49 pm
You mean, figuratively anyone.
Colter
March 6, 2018 @ 9:10 am
Would it be okay for Tim kaine to serve on the board? He knows a lot about country music and he plays the harmonica.
HalSF
March 6, 2018 @ 9:11 am
The hair-splitting sophistry and tortured reasoning of this post, its complete and utter lack of common sense or understanding of how leadership works, is one of your absolute worst attempts to parse a difficult controversy by levitating 20,000 feet above it. “Everyone in this situation but me and Mike is wrong” is not a principled position, it’s just a self-aggrandizing stunt. And I generally love your contrarian ways. This one really should have had a Trigger warning for most perverse argument ever.
Trigger
March 6, 2018 @ 10:25 am
““Everyone in this situation but me and Mike is wrong”
Never said that, but thanks for attributing that quote to me.
But for the record, Mike Huckabee did nothing wrong in this situation. Period. He should have never been asked. He volunteered his time when he was. He resigned immediately when he became a distraction. And he did so with class and dignity. He could have been the most evil man in America heretofore, but I fail to see how he could or should have done anything different in this scenario.
Corncaster
March 6, 2018 @ 12:39 pm
This is not about Huckabee. This is about power: who has it, and who can be made to suffer it.
Scotty J
March 6, 2018 @ 12:53 pm
Power. And punishment. We were told for ever that gays and lesbians just want to be left alone and have all the same privileges as everyone else and then it would all be good. As someone who was passively pro gay marriage (didn’t really care either way frankly) this was my baseline belief.
But now, it isn’t enough that they won the battle they feel the need to punish and destroy the other side.
Amazingly enough I am less of a supporter than before as they have shown themselves to be the same bigoted totalatarians that they have forever accused the other side of being.
ScottG
March 6, 2018 @ 3:04 pm
Your previous “passive” belief must have been REALLY passive. “They won the battle”….
Coming off of years, decades, and centuries of persecution and only within a few years barely being able to get the right to marry “they” should suddenly not care about a politician trying to convince people that their entire identity is wrong, and that their marriage should be outlawed by the the government (which is now in republican control)? You really don’t see why “they” would have a problem with that? That’s kind of like saying “Hey slavery is over all is good now, who cares if there is a prominent politician that says we should bring it back.”
Also who told you that “that gays and lesbians just want to be left alone and have all the same privileges as everyone else and then it would all be good?”
As a moderate myself that is also concerned with some of the BS of the democratic party, I can understand why people would have a problem with politicians who are trying to condemn them.
Scotty J
March 6, 2018 @ 3:18 pm
I don’t see how myself being passive has anything to do with it being a real political battle. My point is it wasn’t that important an issue to me. Not every hot button political issue is the same for everybody. As I said I really didn’t care.
And I would say that it was often said that gays didn’t want to change anyone else’s life they only wanted what others have had. That was just a general impression that was given by supporters.
Finally comparing gay marriage to slavery is beyond ridiculous.
ScottG
March 6, 2018 @ 3:46 pm
“Finally comparing gay marriage to slavery is beyond ridiculous.”
You’ve just made a point that you don’t even realize. Think about it…perhaps for awhile.
HalSF
March 6, 2018 @ 2:29 pm
You’re right, “Everyone in this situation but me and Mike is wrong” is not a quotation, but a summary of what you chose to zero in. I should have used italics I guess.
The point remains that making the probity and innocence of Mike Huckabee the crucial thing worth defending in this minor train wreck is a strange and oblique choice for you to make. In recent years Huckabee could have embraced a statesmanlike public role or he could have chosen to become a troll and a clown. He chose the latter and then brought all of that divisive and bitter baggage — a gigantic comet tail of insults and contempt for his political and cultural opponents — into the CMA. Is it a minor blessing that he immediately stepped back out with minimal fuss when the 100% inevitable and justifiable shit hit the fan? Yes. Is that blessing the crux of this story? Hell, no.
countryjew
March 6, 2018 @ 9:28 am
There’s a suggestion that Huckabee is being judged for statements made in the “past.” This guy is an unhinged loon who regularly pumps out obnoxious and inflammatory statements. (Ex: last year’s Cinco De Mayo “joke”)
The probability that he would have eventually embarrassed the CMA is very high. Even in conservative quarters he is looked at as a clown.
Greg
March 6, 2018 @ 1:10 pm
The CMA does a great job of embracing them selves all by themselves.
Charlie
March 6, 2018 @ 10:00 am
People deal with massive and ever-increasing information overload by choosing sides. We feel the need to team up in order not to be buried by it. And we end up fighting someone else’s battle.
And we as a civilization may very well not be long for this earth, if we continue to respond to this social pressure by abruptly modifying our behavior in ways that contradict 1,000,000 years of evolution–or 6,000 years of creation.
Better to stay off as many of the anti-social media channels as possible. We weren’t supplied with orifices for all those plugs. Put on some music. Sip some bourbon. Chill the fuck out.
DJ
March 6, 2018 @ 10:41 am
I don’t necessarily disagree with your summary, but, there is this to consider;
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Batterycap
March 6, 2018 @ 11:30 am
Country music has been on life support for some time. When it decides to run the preacher from Arkansas out of town, we can call it dead. Gay folks have to be the worst winners in history.
liza
March 6, 2018 @ 12:23 pm
“If the industry doesn’t want people of faith…”. Huckabee is an ass to write that. He set fire to this on purpose. Hateful guy.
Greg
March 6, 2018 @ 1:03 pm
Something else I would like to mention.I thought the CMA was about promoting Country music.While I don’t agree with Huckabee on everything he does,I do watch his show on TBN,and he has had some great Country stars on his show like Aaron Tippin,Craig Morgan,Exile,and others.So,it seems to me,if the CMA was really about promoting Country music, they would see Huckabee is promoting the music too by having Country stars on his show.Yes,TBN is a Christian network,but I have seen Country stars do Country music on his show.
Corncaster
March 6, 2018 @ 1:13 pm
Why do people make it hard to be a country music fan and a political Independent?
Trigger
March 6, 2018 @ 1:45 pm
This is all part of the active effort to politicize country music under the philosophy that as a bastion for Trump support, undermining that support will result in a changing of the political landscape. But if country music will not comply, then like all institutions that support the right, it must be destroyed. That is why the politicizing of country is truly and existential threat to the genre, no hyperbole.
I am embarrassed and disappointed by the way certain African Americans and homosexuals were treated in the genre in the past, and how women are treated in the genre today. But we can’t throw out the baby with the bathwater. I believe most country fans are tolerant, loving people who are being mischaracterized in mass and being used as a political pawns. This is supposed to be about the music. Music is supposed to be a place apart from political rancor. We must labor to resist all politicization of music not initiated by the artists themselves as a form of expression, or music will become jet another institution of culture that divides us.
ScottG
March 6, 2018 @ 7:20 pm
Trigger, curious to know if you think that most of your readers and commenters are tolerant. When you pay attention to which comments get the most likes, that doesn’t seem to be the case on some of the more contentious issues, like this one. There was another one about a month ago, where a “hood rat” comment got a disproportionate number of likes.
Trigger
March 6, 2018 @ 9:15 pm
I don’t like some of the things said in this comments section, and I don’t like that they appear to be popular with readers. But I think what a lot of folks that love to paint Saving Country Music as this bastion of bigotry fail to focus on is how I spoke a to more progressive, tolerant ideas in this article. But the problem is that people who hate Saving Country Music love to come here and find things to be negative about, including in the comments sections. They don’t see the comments they agree with, they’re only looking for further evidence of my bigotry. Basically the entirety of the Rolling Stone Country writing crew has spent the last few weeks ripping me apart, but we agree on maybe 90% of issues, including this one. We all agree Mike Huckabee was a bad choice. We all agree he shouldn’t have even been considered. We all agree it was a good thing he eventually resigned. Yet they gloss over this completely, and pull quotes from me that make it appear that I’m defending Huckabee’s controversial political statements, even though I went out of my way to avoid them. But I’m also not going to lie and say that he wasn’t qualified for the job—which is something Rolling Stone Country said as well. I’m also not going to act like the mob mentality that formed around his appointment isn’t a dangerous precedent, or that saying his resignation letter could result in gay youth killing themselves isn’t a completely diseased perspective.
The problem is too many people in times like these flee to their reality tunnels, and want to banish any thoughts not parallel to their own. I have had THOUSANDS of people swear off never reading Saving Country Music again because I have clearly outed myself as a extreme left-wing zealot with my stances on women in music, The NRA, Aaron Lewis, mawkish flag waving opportunistic “support the troops” anthems etc. etc, and because these comments sections are full of commies. If you don’t believe me, just go here:
https://savingcountrymusic.com/why-mainstream-country-stars-wont-come-out-against-the-nra/
It is important we have places where everyone can voice their opinion, so we see the various perspectives people have on topics. Like is said in the article, banishing Mike Huckabee from the CMA Foundation will not banish him from existence. He’ll just take his efforts elsewhere. If you truly want to eradicate his misguided views, the only way is to engage him in dialogue and attempt to expand his perspective. This isn’t enabling anybody, it’s just simply understanding the art of rhetoric. That’s also the approach I take with these comments sections.
ScottG
March 6, 2018 @ 10:20 pm
I went back and read…all the comments. Hats off to you, it must be difficult.
The comments that get me the most are “stick to the music.” And a lot of them are from the same people reading this article and taking the time to comment over and over about politics, despite their demands that you don’t talk about anything political. The audacity of people to tell you that you should do exactly what they want you to do, because it’s all about them, is depressing. I just wish they would, since they are so smart, so go create their own blogs. It’s so much easier to criticize than to create.
Isaac
March 6, 2018 @ 1:19 pm
Hey Trigger, couldn’t help but notice in the comments above that you only did one run-in for a reminder to keep things on topic, and not to get into religion debates.
Not for all of the slams against LGBTQ, up to and including multiple mentions of “Sodomites”, only when someone started talking Jesus.
Just think that’s…interesting?
MH
March 6, 2018 @ 1:34 pm
Do you seriously think he’s on here reading/watching comments 22 hours a day?
King Honky Of Crackershire
March 6, 2018 @ 7:06 pm
Isaac,
It wasn’t about any particular topic. It was about me. Trigger has had me on a leash for about 6 months now. My comments go straight to comment purgatory, where he allows approximately 38.712% of them to post, and then sends the rest on down to comment Hell.
He also likes to publicly scold me, even when others have left comments “worse” than mine.
I assure you, there is no deep conspiracy here.
Trainwreck92
March 6, 2018 @ 7:37 pm
Yeah, it’s a bit disheartening to say the least.
Greg
March 6, 2018 @ 1:21 pm
I will forever love Country music,regardless of the persons faith or politics.That’s just me.
Isaac
March 6, 2018 @ 1:22 pm
Also, as member of the mainstream media, there’s nothing I like better than a guy who makes money by reporting on pop culture trying to act like he’s somehow *not* MSM.
Also also: you pointing out how SOME OTHER MEDIA MEMBERS like nothing more than to try to find things to be mad about to cover? [Insert gif of Italian chef kissing fingers] That’s a spicy a-meatball!
Clyde
March 6, 2018 @ 1:28 pm
Huckabee’s views that are being so vehemently opposed are essentially benign with respect to holding back rights and economic penalties. The Supreme Court made Huckabee a loser in 2017 as Trigger mentioned. So Jason Owen and others were bemoaning Huckabee on principle alone since he is no longer “The Man” keeping them down. Their right I guess.
Also, Huckabee says he was 11 years old when his parents bought him a $99 guitar. He was born in 1955, so that would be 1966 when he got the guitar. In today’s dollars that would be $757. They paid it off in a year, but still, how “dirt poor” could his family have been?
Jim Z.
March 6, 2018 @ 1:56 pm
the blog where you come for the country music and get spoon fed horse poop politics
Harriett
March 6, 2018 @ 2:13 pm
Huckabee has never missed an opportunity to criticize R&B artists for their lyrics yet he has no problem with having Ted Nugent on his show and jamming to Cat Scratch Fever. Guess controversial songs are fine as long as your beliefs are the same as his
Ray
March 6, 2018 @ 10:24 pm
Would I want to invite someone to my house and try to convince that my lifestyle is “normal?” Hell, no. Until you have spent your life feeling like you have to apologize for being gay, I am now at a point that if you like fine, if not, that is fine too. Huckabee stands with his Christian right beliefs. That is great for him and his followers. But, country music has evolved to where the younger generation is more accepting of “different” people, whether gay, black or any other minority.
With so many other businesses that are based in Nashville, why didn’t they try to get someone from the healthcare or automotive industries. Even better, I sat close to Gov. Haslam at a Garth Brooks concert in December. Never have a seen a politician have a better time, singing every word to every song. Now there is someone that I would endorse. Yes, he is a Republican and no, I could care less. But at least he is not as polarizing as Huckabee.
CountryKnight
March 7, 2018 @ 12:22 pm
Chely Wright must have wanted some more attention.
Remember when we were told that the goal was just let us have marriage? Now it has morphed into, “agr
CountryKnight
March 7, 2018 @ 12:23 pm
Now it has morphed into, “agree with us or be destroyed.”
And I love how Owen and Wright
CountryKnight
March 7, 2018 @ 12:24 pm
For some reason, my phone is going haywire when it comes to posting.
And I love how Owen and Wright’s responses are just based on hysteria and feelings. That is all they have.
Pete
March 7, 2018 @ 9:20 pm
Trigger, I love the site and I agree with your core premise that he never should have been asked to be on the board. But at the same time, you come across as a Huckabee apologist by saying he was extremely well qualified. Maybe he is well qualified. But he also (as many have pointed out) has said some hateful things through the course of his career.
Free speech is amazing, and should be available to all. But we all should be aware that it could have consequences. And if people say things that are hateful, they may have opportunities taken from them, regardless of their formal qualifications for the position.
Trigger
March 7, 2018 @ 11:04 pm
Let’s say you’re a proponent of reasonable gun control, and the President of the United States, Donald Trump, proposes reasonable gun control legislation that he wants to enact into law. If you’re the Democrats in Congress who have been trying to pass reasonable gun control laws for the past 30 years, do you choose to pass up the opportunity to actually enact something into law because you don’t want to work with the President? Do you say, “No, we will not work with this man because he said ‘Grab ’em by the pussy’ 13 years ago?” No, you work with the man because getting the right thing done in your estimation is more important than what you adversary may have said at some point.
Mike Huckabee presented a unique opportunity as a Republican who is actually for the public funding of music education, and has specifically worked in this space for many years, to get something meaningful done for the CMA Foundation’s cause. The fact that he is such a hardline Republican makes him uniquely qualified to be able to create a consensus around this issue, canvas people from across the aisle, and get the schools the funding they need to continue music programs.
Are we about taking principled stances that result in nothing ever getting done? Or are we about seeing the bigger picture and the common purpose, and taking advantage of the rare opportunities for consensus so that we can improve life in America?
The fact that some people take this reasonable opinion like it’s endorsing homophobia shows just how diseased the political contagion has become.
Isaac
March 8, 2018 @ 11:36 am
Do you not understand how many LGBTQ members of the Nashville country music community may have not looked at this as a qualified pick, though? As a member of the Board, Huckabee could have used that position to perhaps persuade a particular benefit going toward a community that may have been more aligned with his personal beliefs, or at least would seem to be; say, a rural school in Arkansas, as opposed to a metro school in a major urban area.
I guess it just boils down for a lot of us that we can’t quite understand how you could view Jason Owen as the real antagonist here. If I were a gay dude, with a family and kids, who had made millions for the industry, only to see said industry embrace a politician who ranks near the top in homophobic remarks on the record? And the alternative is that he should have just invited Hucks to dinner?
C’mon, man. You finally notice the money that Alex Jones makes or something?
Isaac
March 8, 2018 @ 11:40 am
Also, you have made references to how unfairly some at Rolling Stone Country treat you, and have falsely labeled you as this or that. If you refuse to read some of the stuff that you’re writing now and try to see where they may be coming from, I can’t help you. All I’ll say is, as a longtime fan and reader who is beginning to notice a sizable shift in the angle that you are coming from with some stories in recent months, at a certain point you have to start thinking, “If it walks like a duck, and sounds like a duck…”
Trigger
March 8, 2018 @ 2:14 pm
Fuck Alex Jones, and the insinuation I would ever want anything to do with him. This is similar to the seething, anger-filled accusations that I am a white supremacist and a sexual assaulter, simply because folks are so filled with anger an bereft of intellectual arguments, they know nothing more than to character assassinate.
Jack Williams
March 9, 2018 @ 7:00 am
C’mon, man. You finally notice the money that Alex Jones makes or something?
You were doing alright until that sentence. But that? C’mon, man.
Jimmie Hughes
March 13, 2018 @ 11:55 pm
Hypersensitivity has become a popular hobby.