Only 3.44% of the Artists Playing Austin City Limits Fest (ACL Fest) Are From Austin
This story has been updated.
In a city filled with overeducated intellectuals that love to pontificate and overplan everything until they create more problems for themselves than they solve, one of the biggest issues facing the city right now is the wholesale evaporation of the live music scene in the supposed “Live Music Capital of the World.” While the City Council is busy collecting surveys and looking into symbolic Band-Aid fixes that won’t have any substantive change on the fate of the city’s musicians and music, the most obvious of issues go unresolved, and unchallenged.
One of the biggest issues is tied to one of the city’s largest annual music events, the two-weekend Austin City Limits Festival, or ACL Fest every fall. Just like the PBS program the festival is named for, the festival long ago abandoned its roots of actually showcasing local Austin bands, but is perfectly fine continuing to exploit the Austin City Limits name, which is supposed to be tied to a not-for-profit entity.
ACL Fest is promoted by the local Austin company C3 Presents, which recently sold 51% of its ownership to Live Nation, and presented by the Austin Parks Foundation.The lack of local representation at ACL Fest is nothing new, but the 2017 lineup just released Thursday (5-4) takes the cake. Out of the 58 names that made it onto the poster for the Austin City Limits Festival, only two are from Austin—Spoon and The Black Angels. That is 3.44% of the artists playing the fest. Only two more performers are from Texas—Cody Jinks, and Solange Knowles (originally from Houston, who now lives in New Orleans).
READ: Too Little, Too Late for the Dying Austin Music Scene
Not to criticize any other artist or bands no matter where they are from, but if the City of Austin wants to see more support for their local music, why is no support flowing to local artists through an event held in a local park, using local resources, receiving local tax breaks, and includes the name of the city right in its title?
Sure, you need big name artists from other locales to make ACL Fest a destination festival, and draw foreign revenue into the city. But is a benchmark of even 15% of bands from the local area too much? Even 10%? And don’t bring up the ACL Fest undercard when that gets released. If Austin music was important enough to Austin City Limits, these artists would get representation on the top poster, and ACL Fest would be a way to promote Austin music to the rest of the world, instead of importing the talent and pulling attention away from the local scene.
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UPDATE: ACL Fest has released the full poster now with a few more Austin artists: Asleep at the Wheel, Carson McHone, Dale and Ray, Band of Heathens, and Paul Cauthen. However even in the undercard, Austin artists only make up 5.88% of the new names.
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The City of Austin should be absolutely embarrassed and outraged that more Austin representation isn’t making it into the lineup of the Austin City Limits Festival. If 3% is all C3 Presents can give to Austin artists, perhaps they should consider changing their name, and the city should consider pulling its support.
To put it into context just how bereft the representation of Austin music is at the Austin City Limits Festival, here are some stats:
–There are just as many artists playing from Melbourne, Australia as there are from Austin, TX (2).
–There are just as many artists playing from Sydney, Australia as there are from Austin, TX (2).
–There just as many artists playing from Stockholm, Sweden as there are from Austin, TX (2).
–There just as many artists playing from Toronto, Canada as there are from Austin, TX (2).
–There are more artists playing from Chicago than there are from Austin (3).
— There are 7 artists playing from the Los Angeles area.
–There are more artists playing from England (6), than there are from Texas (4).
Here are the artists and respective points of origin from the 58 performers announced for ACL Fest 2017:
- Red Hot Chili Peppers – Los Angeles
- Chance The Rapper – Chicago
- The Killers- Las Vegas, NV
- Gorillaz – Essex, England
- Martin Garrix – Amsterdam
- The XX – London, England
- Ice Cube – Los Angeles
- Ryan Adams – North Carolina
- Solange – Houston / New Orleans
- The Head and the Heart – Seattle, WA
- Run The Jewels – Brooklyn / Atlanta
- Foster The People – Los Angeles
- Spoon – Austin, TX
- Vance Joy – Melbourne, Australia
- Zhu – Anonymous
- Glass Animals – Oxford, England
- Tove Lo – Stockholm, Sweden
- Milky Chance – Kassel, Germany
- Portugal.The Man – Wasilla, Alaska
- Bonobo – Brighton, England
- Cut Copy – Melbourne, Australia
- Crystal Castles – Toronto, Canada
- A$AP Ferg – New York, New York
- First Aid Kit – Stockholm, Sweden
- Rüfüs Du Sol – Sydney, Australia
- Russ – New Jersey / Roswell, Georgia
- D.R.A.M. – Germany / Hampton, VA
- Skepta – London, England
- Louis The Child – Chicago, Illinois
- Superduperkyle – Northridge, California
- Royal Blood – Brighton, England
- Alison Wonderland – Sydney, Australia
- The Revivalists – New Orleans, LA
- Cody Jinks – Ft. Worth, TX
- LÄ«ve – York, Pennsylvania
- The Black Angels – Austin, TX
- Angel Olsen – St. Louis / Chicago
- O.A.R. – Rockville, Maryland
- Getter- San Jose, California
- Danny Brown – Detroit, MI
- James Vincent McMorrow – Dublin, Ireland
- Eagles of Death Metal – Palm Desert, California
- BadBadNotGood – Toronto, Canada
- MuteMath – New Orleans, LA
- Vulfpeck – Ann Arbor, MI
- The Growlers – Dana Point, California
- Car Seat Headrest – Leesburg, Virginia
- Broods – Nelson, New Zealand
- Joseph – Portland, OR
- Hamilton Leithauser – New York, New York
- Dreamcar – Los Angeles, CA
- Grace Vanderwaal – Suffern, New York
- Brothers Osborne – Deale, Maryland
- Benjamin Booker – Virginia Beach, Virginia
- Rainbow Kitten Surprise – Boone, NC
- Big Wild – Los Angeles, CA
- Muna – Los Angeles, CA
- Whitney – Chicago, IL
May 4, 2017 @ 9:24 am
Piles of shit on that bill, but the worst has to be The Red Hot Chili Peppers. Cody Jinks should get the flu and avoid that tire fire….
May 4, 2017 @ 9:44 am
I saw the list and said the same thing. At least in years past, they made an attempt to add some local acts even if they weren’t from Austin but based in Texas. I did see that the Band Of Heathens, Paul Cauthen, Asleep at the Wheel, Dale and Ray and Midland (don’t know much about them but they show to be based out of Hayes County) are on the bill but still, nothing to jump up and down about. They will get a 25-30min set early in the day and probably headline their own gig that night and pack the place. Not to mention, all the bands listed only get 1 weekend to play. They will probably pay more in parking, loading and unloading then its worth to play the festival.
May 4, 2017 @ 10:01 am
I saw Carson McHone is on the bill too. I believe she’s from Austin.
May 4, 2017 @ 1:23 pm
“They will get a 25-30min set early in the day and probably headline their own gig that night and pack the place.”
No, ACL Fest’s radius clause will preclude them from playing in Austin weeks before, and weeks after the event.
May 4, 2017 @ 1:56 pm
Good catch, didn’t think about that. But they will be playing early enough to drive out to another show in surrounding cities. What about the after shows? A lot of these artist get booked at local venues to play after shows, no radius clause on those? I’m guessing after shows are at venues ran by Live Nation as well.
My orginal comment was towards, is it worth playing ACL fest when there’s a bigger gig these bands can book and headline. I know it use to be a big deal to be selected to play ACL Fest, now it seems diluted and watered down. I know I don’t recognize over 60% of whats on the list but then again, most of the bands that play ACL fest aren’t my cup of tea.
May 4, 2017 @ 10:04 am
Trigger said it all with the Live Nation bought a 51% share. That explains all you need to know.Big corporate bloated ruination. This festival isn’t about Texas roots music anymore. I put it in the same category as Sucks by Suckwest.
Love Asleep at the Wheel and Dale. Miraculously they are on the bill largely because Ray is tight with ACL and historicly opens the fest every year.
Overall, what a shame. Like many here, I grew up watching ACL enjoying all the Texas music it used to feature. Soon Live Nation will own every fest and they will all stink.
May 4, 2017 @ 1:30 pm
I don’t want to discredit the opportunity these few Austin bands are getting by being added to the lineup, but it is simply a token. It’s almost just as insulting if they weren’t there at all. If Austin music is in dire straits as the many studies conducted have confirmed, then it is going to take real leadership to solve. Find some Austin bands to put at the top of the roster, be an entity that helps grow the fan bases for local artists. Represent what Austin music is to the rest of the world instead of importing 97% of the talent.
May 5, 2017 @ 8:51 am
This is a really smart statement above and i agree w/ all of it. But I still think the major driving force is the fans in Austin. The Will Hoge / Dalton crowd was embarrassing 2 weeks ago. Brandy and Charlie didn’t come close to selling out ANTONES. I have friends playing Shiner’s, Rustic, Unbarlievable who can’t get 10 people to listen to the music. So many of the bands I follow draw 10x in smaller Tx towns than they can in Austin. I’m truly not sure what’s going on but for the first time, I’m worried about it.
May 5, 2017 @ 9:17 am
No parking downtown, no Uber, no way to leave your car downtown overnight, and an aging population because only more older and affluent people can live downtown. There are many reasons Austin music is dying. Try to find a parking space within any reasonable distance from Antone’s. It’s just easier to sit at home and stream Netflix. The Austin population wants to know there’s still music out there, but they don’t want to do anything to materially support it that might inconvenience them, or upset their real estate values.
May 5, 2017 @ 10:33 am
More of a elaboration than a disagreement. As usual, I apologize for the rambling nature of my writing.
You’re definitely right. Ride Austin is no Uber substitute and while it’s great that you CAN leave your car overnight on the street, good luck finding a street spot. But I think the bigger point you note is the demographics. When I go to a threadgill’s show, i’m often (at 34) the youngest person there. That’s just fine, but where’s the next gen that i see when i’m at a show in NB or SM?
Been thinking a lot about that damn Garth show at Auditorium shores. Several thousand people dealt with traffic and no uber etc. I had 40+ friends in the 20-40 age range honestly have an awesome time. And i had a good time too. Only time i’ll ever see the dude and the crowd energy was awesome, everyone was positive and singing along, beautiful weather and setting. I’m just left confused because the music kind of sucked. He was the 4th best (out of 4) country artist I saw that day, far behind Margo, Sunny and Caityln Smith. When i brought this up to the previously mentioned friends they’re like but we grew up with Garth and we knew every song. And i’m just like, well why don’t you listen to Midwest farmer’s daughter or Big Day and know every much better song? And it comes back to the work you’re doing. Everyone gives you a hard time when you mention country radio but country radio MATTERED. Not even Country, RADIO mattered. I don’t care in Austin whether you go to country or not, go to something! It stuns me the % of my friends who go out, claim to LOVE live music, tell me to hit them up at the next show i go to, and are instead at dogface blowing their money in a meat market bitching about how they can’t meet anyone …
I just REALLY think the answer lies in my gen (25-40) in ATX really not into live music (and the bs like sound ordinances, prices, uber, parking, impossible for musicians etc).
May 4, 2017 @ 10:19 am
stuff bought in a corporate takeover will never be cool
when the edges get sanded off,
move on
May 5, 2017 @ 11:08 am
but at least we have lineups like this to look forward to in Austin …. please don’t stab your own forehead
http://news.iheart.com/features/2017-iheartcountry-festival-a-music-experience-25/
May 4, 2017 @ 11:18 am
But what does FAK doing on that list. They haven’t mentioned anything about a US tour. They haven’t done any touring for almost two years…And there will be very few gigs this summer as well…
Maybe its an 8 year anniversary. It was at this festival 8 years ago as Mike Mogus was offered to produce “The Lions Roar”. And also where they played their first gig US.
What I don’t understand how they can afford to fly to the US just for one show so maybe they will do a small US tour after all. But they have been flying back and forth between Sweden and US like they had a some kind of discount tickets for two years now.
And those who have seen them before will probably be a little surprised. In an interview they said there will be more electric guitar on the next album. But on the other hand when they started their second 2015 US tour it was also in Austin and it sounded like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alC0-_cIfVE
And a recencent wrote: “Visibly shocked a few fans” … 🙂
May 4, 2017 @ 12:07 pm
maybe hayes, mcmurtry, gurf, sam baker, slaid, jon dee, kelly mickwee, jamie lin wilson, bright lights social hour, johnny nicholas, the resentments and i should play at the saxon pub those weekends in case out of towners wanna see a few more austin acts. their wristband won’t get them in though.
May 4, 2017 @ 12:27 pm
Ray if you play, they will come. And if you got that lineup together that you just named, that would be incredible. Thank you for making such great music!
May 4, 2017 @ 8:59 pm
it would be a good one..may have to do another grit n groove..
May 5, 2017 @ 9:16 am
Yes, this. Hands down one of the best festivals I have attended. Would love to see another GnG fest.
May 6, 2017 @ 9:57 am
Ray
PM, email or call me – I have an idea to do that…
A. Michael Uhlmann
May 5, 2017 @ 8:46 am
RWH, do it!!!! just do it in a bigger venue cuz people will come! Still think your flood of love benefit may have been the finest fest i’ve been too (no willie’s picnic in 15) but 2nd! Thanks for everything you do!
May 4, 2017 @ 2:40 pm
Don’t think ACL Fest would be happy with you putting on a better gig then them.. 🙂
May 4, 2017 @ 9:04 pm
that would be a cool line up. the truth is i really don’t care if acl is happy or not. i’ve never played it and probably will never be asked to play it which i’m okay with. now i’d play blissfest if they asked..oh, they did and i am.
May 5, 2017 @ 9:21 am
Even more the reason to set this up. I hate going into Austin during ACL fest, but I’d make a trip to the Saxon Pub for this show and I’m sure others would as well. Keep on rockin
May 5, 2017 @ 7:14 am
Hot damn. That would be fantastic. A whole bunch of Songwriters HOF candidates on that list…
May 4, 2017 @ 12:15 pm
I watch 3 or 4 ACL episodes per year.
I turn it on on Saturday night at 11:00, see some foreign or avante guard band, and pick up my book to read.
The people in the audience look like a bunch of effete University of Texas professor.
It’s too bad, because Texas has more music talent in one state than most of the other 49 combined.
I like indie rock, but I don’t like seeing a historically country and folk music event reinvent itself as a hipster party.
And I wasn’t happy to see it leave its first venue several years ago to play in a more up to date setting.
Too much money and corporate decision making for me.
May 4, 2017 @ 12:20 pm
Money ruined Austin a looong time ago
May 4, 2017 @ 2:52 pm
The show and the festival are two separate things. Confusing, I know, but it’s true. And the show is still great.
May 4, 2017 @ 4:30 pm
Austin City Limits the TV show, and Austin City Limits the festival use the same name, the same type of font, the same brand, are booked by the same people. It’s not the public’s fault if they are “confused.” They are being purposely misled by branding. It is the marketing and packaging of a brand that is supposed to be for a not-for-profit TV show on PBS, which receives public, government funding through the National Endowment for the Arts.
Some of the show is still great. Most of it, just like the festival, is more about keeping corporate sponsors like Budweiser, Dell, and Lexus happy as opposed to preserving and promoting the legacy of Austin music, which was the original purpose of Austin City Limits.
May 4, 2017 @ 5:40 pm
I didn’t say it was the public’s fault. I used to work for ACL Live so I do have some insight into this and thought I’d clarify. Some people seem to be confused about it. Just sharing my knowledge.
October 4, 2022 @ 6:00 pm
That’s the spirit. Sit on your lazy ass watching Netflix rather than put effort into waking down. You should be the poster child of the new woke gen. That being said, it really sucks that Austin is not promoting the musicians from within. True Texans don’t hang much in Austin anymore. I hate getting old. Bring back the Broken Spoke!
May 5, 2017 @ 11:44 am
Bemoans “hipsters”.
Watches ACL. Does not compute.
Dude, UT has never been some rough & tough grizzled texas town. Austin has always been your effete, higher educated, higher moneyed types. Hence “Keep Austin Weird” rather than red.
May 4, 2017 @ 1:23 pm
I guess the city of Austin has its Limits ……….
May 5, 2017 @ 1:54 am
Dad?
May 6, 2017 @ 5:20 pm
Son …???
May 4, 2017 @ 2:50 pm
I lived in Austin for five years and went to ACL every year. The show has nothing to do with the festival, btw, but the local bands representation issue has been getting a little worse every year. I love ACLfest and I still love Austin, but it this is one complaint that kept coming up every year. 2013 and 2014 were actually decent years for local acts. It’s getting to be all about the money, honey.
May 4, 2017 @ 3:02 pm
The Wild Now is also an Austin band.
May 4, 2017 @ 3:05 pm
Rattletree is also an Austin band. They’re friends of mine. There are a few more on the poster.
May 4, 2017 @ 4:42 pm
You don’t like Austin list your problems. Want to complain about ACL (& I agree with you) go for it. But no such thing as being “overeducated” and why/how is being smart or enjoying things that stimulate the brain a pejorative? The name calling & stereotyping isn’t necessary & totally ancillary to the article. Furthermore, praising or creating a culture that devalues education is actually damaging.
The ACL should include more Austin based artists & my guess is most of the overeducated intellectuals of Austin would agree with you. They’re generally big into local movements.
May 4, 2017 @ 4:47 pm
(Oh and I despise hipsters….bc they’re posers, has nothing to do with being overeducated or intellectual though)
May 4, 2017 @ 5:45 pm
I agrees. The people who think that there should be more Austin acts are the ones who know what they’re talking about. And there is no such thing as being overeducated. Saying the crowd at ACL looks smart was such an odd comment. I take it as a compliment.
May 4, 2017 @ 6:45 pm
There is a difference between making a point about how problem solving that never gets out of committee because people feel they can intellectualize themselves out of any problem causes more problems than it solves, and “devaluing education.”
And no, it appears most of Austin doesn’t agree with me. Suggesting to set even a 15% benchmark for Austin artists at this fest is seen as a radical and unfit concern considering all the revenue ACL Fest generate. Besides, didn’t I see Asleep At The Wheel is on the schedule, so what else do I want?
May 4, 2017 @ 7:25 pm
Of the population in Austin over the age of 25 37% have completed a BA (or higher), which is higher than the US Avg, but not even close to 50%. Nowhere is without problems, but Austin is doing fairly well as compared to many areas, especially in Texas (public education, employment).
And who is opposing the 15% benchmark? What makes them overeducated? or intellectual?
(also your first sentence/paragraph makes no sense, what do you mean by intellectualize out of a problem?)
May 4, 2017 @ 8:15 pm
See, you’re over-intellectualizing.
🙂
Look, I live just outside of Austin. I obsess over these things, and read all the reports and stories about this issue. This isn’t something I’m juts pontificating on in a hypothetical way. This is an issue that is directly affecting myself, my frineds, my neighbors, and people I collaborate with. That first paragraph was a paraphrased take on what the current Mayer Steve Adler says often, which is that Austin loves to plan and conduct studies, but never takes action to solve any of the problems. And ultimately, the problems get so bad, they’re irreversible, like the evisceration of the Austin music scene that is occurring, and certified by the redundant studies conducted buy the city.
At some point you have to take a hard look at things and take action. The simple truth here is that the reason there is so little Austin representation on the ACL Fest stage is because it doesn’t make the right people enough money.
May 4, 2017 @ 8:57 pm
So I used to work in policy, and stopped because committee’s stink. Committee’s tend to mean work never gets done, and good policy solutions don’t get implemented. But in years of trying to work with committee’s, I don’t think the problem was ever because people were overeducated or intellectualized (especially since people never read anything). Committee’s tend to not find solutions, because solutions mean making choices, and choices mean some people get pissed off. Nobody wants to make a hard decision and anger people. This is why most of the most “overeducated” and “intellectualized” people I know refuse to work in policy or serve on those type of committee’s, they like being in charge, running a lab & don’t want to have to play nice with others (& they tend to be arrogant).
Austin is suffering from the problems of gentrification. Gentrification is a big problem, and one that doesn’t have an easy or readily apparent obvious solution. Part of the issue is, gentrification is actually a “good” problem. Money is needed. But look Austin isn’t nearly as expensive as LA or NYC, so y’all really should be able to figure it out in terms of the music scene.
More broadly “overeducation” and “intellectual” have become boogeyman words, and well loaded. And it’s ridiculous. We should want smart, super educated people, coming up with solutions. These should be things we praise…but it seems like in some segments it has become something to fear, or view as less “real”. (also hipsters and intellectuals, not the same thing)
May 4, 2017 @ 5:48 pm
The problem may be with the name of the festival itself. You want more local bands, but those acts are seen locally on a regular basis, the RHCP are not. The Chili Peppers will bring a crowd a $ with it. Hate if you must, but a RNR hall of fame act with draw a bigger audience than your local band you can catch on any given saturday night…You know it’s all about revenue, right?
May 4, 2017 @ 7:43 pm
Trigger, are you aware of any new town thats picking up the authentic country music torch that Nashville and Austin have dropped?
Shame, I always wanted to live there but if the music is dying off there’s no point
May 4, 2017 @ 8:09 pm
Nashville is picking up the torch that Nashville has dropped. It’s just in a different part of town. But even east Nashville is being driven more now by image as opposed to substance.
Some think Memphis might be the next hub.
May 5, 2017 @ 6:59 am
Lubbock.
May 4, 2017 @ 9:45 pm
Memphis is more likely than Nashville, which is not picking up the baton. There are a few acts who are trying, but the city as a whole, no.
May 5, 2017 @ 12:21 am
Anyone know why Midnight Motel disappeared from Spotify? Can’t find the album itself and no trace of it on Ingram’s page.
May 5, 2017 @ 9:21 am
Hmmm… It’s still available on Amazon and iTunes, so it hasn’t been pulled from the marketplace. Strange though.
May 5, 2017 @ 6:10 am
Over educated = educated beyond your intellect. It’s a common problem with many who go to college with absolutely 0 experience in real world situations or a knowledge (based on experience) about the subject/discipline “studied” which is exacerbated when put in positions of responsibility/authority. Mostly a formal education shows/proves you can be trained and have a/the perseverance to stick it out.
It’d be a safe bet that the planners of this venue are not from Austin, or even Texas, and most likely have a disdain for music they don’t listen to. But hey, they’re formally educated so they know best. Right!?
May 5, 2017 @ 7:55 am
I suspect they’re actually doing a very good job at what they were hired to do — make money. I suspect that this is actual an objectives/philosophical clash i.e. what is the purpose of the festival. Is the purpose to make money? to highlight Austin artists? To do both – ok then what should the appropriate weight be?
(and industry and real world experience is massively impt, and most colleges realize this, also I’m a huge fan of voc ed in HS, but a formal education also increases critical thinking & analytical skills, it also teaches you more tools. Oh, and college doesn’t on any level get you a supervisory position anymore…hahahaha #iwish).
May 5, 2017 @ 6:40 am
I have no opinion on this, but I would sell my right arm to see The Killers live.
May 5, 2017 @ 12:42 pm
Now that the Austin City Limits festival has added Jay Z as its number one headliner the day after the initial lineup announcement, let me be the first to say in this thread, like everyone does in every thread, that he is “more country than Sam Hunt.” 🙂
May 6, 2017 @ 10:13 am
https://www.aclfestival.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/ACLPoster_20021.jpg – that’s how it started – good idea and then it got to successful and too big, suddenly two weekends and it became a big cash machine – same story like SXSW.
Or simply the story of Austin in a nutshell. When I moved to Austin half of 6 Street was boarded up – the town had some 400’000 inhabitants and was the 43rd biggest city in the US – now it boosts over 2 million people with the ever expanding suburbs and is the 11th biggest agglomeration. Unaffordable, gentrified BS.