Opposition to Dolly Parton Statue is Misguided

Ensconcing a statue of Dolly Parton in the Tennessee state Capitol is being proposed in the state’s legislature after receiving large grassroots support via a petition.
Democrat State Representative John Mark Windle formally brought forward House Bill 135 on Tuesday, January 13th for the creation of the statue for Dolly Parton’s work in both the arts and philanthropy in the state. The statue would be financed by gifts, grants and other donations, and handled via a separate account within the state’s general fund. The public would also be allowed to give feedback about the design of the statue before it’s completed.
Generally speaking, the proposal was met with overwhelming bipartisan support across both politics and culture. Obviously, Dolly Parton is a very popular figure, is most certainly worthy of such a statue, and as a native Tennessean, is an appropriate figure to be honored in her home state’s Capitol.
But a misguided notion—however well-intentioned—took root primarily on Twitter after the statue proposal was made public, proclaiming that Dolly Parton is not worthy of a statue in the Tennessee state house. The idea became prominent enough primarily among music journalists and media members to where Rolling Stone Country chose to publish an article entitled, Why Dolly Parton Doesn’t Deserve a Nashville Statue — Yet.
The problem with this idea (and the article), is that it misses the bigger picture, misrepresents precedent, and politicizes and race baits what was supposed to be (and previously was) a bipartisan, and universally-lauded idea.
First, this is not a “Nashville” statue. Its proposed home is in the state Capitol, which is for all Tennesseans. The article states, “But this isn’t Parton’s time. For one, Dolly still walks among us.” But this is wrong-minded. A statue for Loretta Lynn was just unveiled in October of 2020 in front of the Ryman Auditorium. A statue of Willie Nelson in front of the Austin City Limits venue was unveiled on 4/20/2012. These are just a few of many examples, including statues of state and federal property. Moreover, the case most certainly should be made that any statue commemorating Dolly Parton should ideally be erected while she’s still living, so she can enjoy the accolade. As Tanya Tucker recently stated in her two-time Grammy winning song, “Bring My Flowers Now.”
But the underlying insinuation behind the anti Dolly statue movement is that the statue is intrinsically racist, and there shouldn’t be any white individual who should be awarded any statue at this moment in time. “The United States is suffering from the impact of just the latest nationwide wave of vitriolic racism, but America’s bigotry is a scourge older than the country itself,” writer Marcus K. Dowling states for Rolling Stone. “Any new statue of a Tennessee-associated icon at the capitol should nod toward repairing the generational fractures — social, political, and economic — between black residents and the rest of the state.”
The article goes on to quote author Charles L. Hughes who calls Dolly Parton in a rather pointed and misleading comment, “a ‘convenient dodge’ for white people wanting to claim a ‘powerful projection of safe, communal, and broad-minded space.'”
However, what both the Rolling Stone Country article and many of the anti Dolly statue crowd critically fail to mention is why a Dolly Parton statue in the Tennessee state house is even being discussed. The effort was started by an individual named Alex Parsons who launched a petition last year specifically aimed at the Tennessee State House looking to replace Confederate-era statues. It was an anti-racist movement from the start that used Dolly Parton as the replacement specifically to draw interest and popularity to the cause. The petition received over 25,000 signatures.
“Tennessee is littered with statues memorializing confederate officers,” the petition reads. “History should not be forgotten, but we need not glamorize those who do not deserve our praise. Instead, let us honor a true Tennessee hero, Dolly Parton.”
The Rolling Stone article makes reference to none of this, and instead says succinctly, “Rep. Windle’s reasoning for a Parton statue is both a curious and benign one. ‘The only connection that Dolly Parton and I have is that we are both hillbillies.'”
But this is selectively stating facts, and quote mining to bolster the article’s perspective. In the interview with The Tennessean where the above quote was taken from, Rep. Windle further states, “At this point in history, is there a better example, not just in America but in the world, of a leader that is kind, decent, passionate human being? (She’s) a passionate person who loves everyone, and everyone loves her … The influx of people that have moved to Tennessee in the last several years is directly related to the kind, compassionate nature of Tennesseans, and she is the perfect example of that. She has contributed so much and sacrificed so much of her time to so many great causes.”
Furthermore, petition writer Alex Parsons states in the petition itself, “From the Dollywood foundation that has provided books and scholarships to millions of American children, to the millions of dollars she has donated to dozens of organizations such as the Red Cross and COVID-19 research centers, Dolly Parton has given more to this country and this state than those confederate officers could ever have hoped to take away.”
All of this was left out of the Rolling Stone article to make it appear that even the house bill’s sponsor had little justification for the statue.
But the assertion that perhaps if we’re replacing the statue of a Confederate general, it should be replaced by a black individual, is a very fair one, and is worthy of discussion. Placing aside the fact that if it wasn’t for Dolly Parton’s name being involved in the statue, we may not even be discussing the replacement of the previous statue in the first place, perhaps there is some Civil Rights icon or music artist that also is deserving of this recognition.
Some of the names proposed just frankly don’t make sense though. The Rolling Stone article and others have asserted that the recently passed John Lewis might make a good candidate, but he was originally from Alabama, and represented Georgia in Congress. The first ever performer on the Grand Ole Opry, and pioneering harmonica player DeFord Bailey has also been floated. Though most definitely a critical individual to both country music and for illustrating the role black artists played in the formation of the genre, he’s not exactly at the stature of Dolly Parton.
Another name that makes much more sense is the Memphis-born entertainer Aretha Franklin, whose towering career most certainly resonates throughout American culture similar to Dolly Parton’s. But why does it have to be one or the other? Why can’t it be both? This is one of the fundamental flaws of the critical race theory that is behind much of the opposition to the Dolly Parton statue. It often believes that white American must have to suffer for their to be “equity,” as opposed to trying to move forward to sow equality.
The fundamental question should not be Dolly Parton’s race. It should be if Dolly Parton deserves a statute at the Capitol. The answer among the majority of Tennesseans is most certainly “yes.” It’s also fair to say that since this statue discussion is being framed by Civil Rights, we should also consider a second statue for someone specifically iconic to the black community—Aretha Franklin, or perhaps Ida B. Wells, or perhaps civil-rights lawyer Z. Alexander Looby who has also been cited as a worthy candidate. Use both names to bolster the cause, and raise funds to erect the statues. Perhaps you even erect the statue for the black icon first.
Just to prove I am not such a biased Dolly Parton fan that I would reflexively advocate for Dolly Parton to be honored in any capacity even if she was not worthy of the distinction, last year when multiple outlets including NPR and Billboard proposed that Dolly Parton should be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, as a country fan and Dolly Parton fan, I advocated for the opposite, saying that despite Dolly’s legacy, it’s not her place to take the spot of a more worthy rock artist when her legacy has already been well-preserved within the country music realm. We wouldn’t want a rock artist to take away a distinction from a country one, and so as country fans, we shouldn’t advocate for the same.
But there is a deeper issue here that deserves to be discussed. It’s how symbolism has become the centerpiece of the discussion of race in America, while structural changes to systemic issues remain unresolved. This is why over the last 7 or 8 months, the United States has gone through incredible upheaval, including millions marching in the streets peacefully, and in certain instances, downtown corridors being looted and fire bombed, and cordoned off as autonomous zones by angry mobs, all in the name of racial equity—yet we still have no knock warrants and cash bond for non violent offenders, and we still have the War on Drugs. We also just elected the author of the 90’s Crime Bill and a prosecutor to Executive office. What did we earn from all that strife, action, and upheaval? There hasn’t been one substantial movement towards police reform, yet we got rid of Uncle Ben’s and Aunt Jemima. Not that these things might not be important too, but they’re mostly symbolic.
Too often, social media signaling has obfuscated the addressing of underlying concerns, because it can result in cheap wins, or the gaining of social cred. The more extreme your viewpoints, the more popular your voice, and the more you stand out. This is what is pushing much of America to polarized perspectives, and eroding consensus behind what previously were universal ideas, such as a Dolly Parton statue, often leaving such objectives unresolved due to gridlock.
It’s questionable why any state house is even talking about new statues right now with the incredibly poor way the COVID-19 vaccine has been rolled out in every vicinity across the United States. If people want to address racial equality issues, state houses and assemblies is where this should be happening, with laws and proposals to address police reform. Country artist Randy Howard was killed in a no knock warrant in 2015 in Tennessee for a charge he was about to be exonerated from. These issues cross both racial and cultural lines, and can find consensus, similar to the proposal for the Dolly Parton statue.
A statue of Dolly Parton is not the problem with race in America. And it seems strange that it has become the latest cause celebre among country music’s cloistered Twitter clique, while they still have yet to even address other major race-based issues in country music, including the exclusion of Mickey Guyton from a video shoot for The Highwomen, or if they’re worried about cultural appropriation, Florida Georgia Line lifting the chorus of a Kane Brown song, which went completely unreported.
Instead, we’re worried about a Dolly Parton statue she unequivocally deserves and was originally proposed as a solution to problematic memorials, and Jason Aldean’s wife’s Instagram story. This is how symbolism and social media signaling prevails over the substantive addressing of the underlying issues that directly affect race and other issues in America. It’s not that these discussions aren’t important as well. But they just scratch the surface. You can get a win against Dolly Parton and her statue. But the fundamental issues you think you’re battling against will still remain.
This story has been updated.
January 24, 2021 @ 12:06 pm
I could say that Twitter is cancer, but that would just be an insult to cancer.
January 24, 2021 @ 12:39 pm
Rolling Stone. ‘Nuff said.
January 24, 2021 @ 1:28 pm
“A Rape on Campus” was literal fake news from RS that damaged innocent lives and forever made me discount anything they have to say from any form they take. The worst part is that the incident did nothing to reform RS or journalism as a whole but only seems to have encouraged more shock value, more falsehoods, more omissions, and more cancel culture. When those “reporting the news” have no one to answer to beyond themselves, their rubber stamp editors, and the mindless Twitterverse that drools over their every word, you get this sort of dreck.
January 24, 2021 @ 2:35 pm
Rolling Stone has every right to share opinions and perspectives just like I do all the time here. But the way the writer so selectively pull quoted the state representative involved in the statue bill to misrepresent him, and then didn’t link back to the source of that quote in The Tennessean—which is what you’re supposed to do—and then included no context about the petition that led to the bill, was really a selective bit of reporting that discredits both the perspective and opinion. It’s better to be honest and give the public all the information. Present counterpoints and give them credit where credit is due. This will strengthen your position, while if you selectively present information, it weakens it.
January 24, 2021 @ 12:40 pm
I’d definitely give it to Ida B. Wells over Dolly. Love Dolly, but this is a bit like the Boston PD tweeting out a picture of Red Auerbach, to celebrate Black History Month.
That said, screeds about “Critical Race Theory” and complaints that the same legislators who refuse to denounce a terrorist attack on our Capitol (or the Big Lie of election fraud), haven’t done anything to mollify the protestors they treated far more harshly than the Capitol police did terrorists is red meat to the folks who want to paint you as a racist.
The chain of events from this summer is “People in power commit crimes, and perpetrate other injustices => Citizens protest, furious that the people in power won’t address the crimes or injustices => Some assholes use the chaos to commit crimes of their own => People in power, who had no intention of changing the racist structures that they depend to keep power, use the acts of individual assholes to justify changing nothing.”
Anyone telling you that idiots on Twitter are the real reason racists haven’t changed their racist laws likely spends a lot of time complaining about Colin Kaepernick following a Green Beret’s advice on how not to disrespect the military…and insists that terrorists who try to beat cops to death with “Blue Lives Matter” flags are “patriots.”
/rant over.
Anyway, arguing over who they replace him with can wait. Melt that fucking Nathan Bedford Forrest statue, then have the debate.
January 24, 2021 @ 12:49 pm
“Anyone telling you that idiots on Twitter are the real reason racists haven’t changed their racist laws…”
I’m definitely not saying that here, for the record. Quite the opposite. I’m saying let’s not allow statue talk and other symbolic stuff get in the way of substantive debate and action on actual issues facing people in the real world.
January 24, 2021 @ 1:08 pm
I gotcha, man – I’m just saying that it’s important to look at why substantial changes haven’t been effected, rather than that they haven’t, when discussing stuff like this.
Anyone deeply invested in who replaces Forrest’s statue, rather than that motherfucker’s statue is replaced, isn’t a serious person, regardless of how loudly they bray about being serious on Twitter, haha…similarly, anyone wringing their hands about “Critical Race Theory” is almost certainly doing so in bad faith, themselves.
The “City on a Hill” isn’t about America having been born perfect – it’s about our always striving to be better.
January 24, 2021 @ 1:44 pm
Rolling Stone continues to show why that rag isn’t even worth wiping one’s a** with. And of course leftist insist on bringing race into it. Shocking. Ugh…
January 24, 2021 @ 1:56 pm
Yeah! What does RACE have to do with discussing a statue of the traitor and war criminal who founded the KKK????
January 24, 2021 @ 2:28 pm
I was talking about the Dolly Parton aspect of it, clown. Go lay down.
January 24, 2021 @ 2:46 pm
You can’t extract what’s being replaced from the conversation of what should replace it.
The question isn’t “Should Dolly get a statue” – of course she should!
It’s “What statue should replace the statue of the war criminal and traitor who founded the KKK?”
There are good-faith reasons to think Dolly isn’t the best answer…but the focus should be on ditching the Forrest statue, before anything else.
January 24, 2021 @ 2:54 pm
One of the reasons the debates between removing the Forrest statue and replacing it with a Dolly statue are not mutually exclusive is because that’s not how the original petitioner couched it. The idea was if you name a universally-beloved person like Dolly Parton, you can create a lot of popular sentiment behind the idea of swapping statues and make it happen. A petition to remove Forrest may find just as much agreement, but folks may not take time out of their day to seek out such a petition like they will as Dolly Parton fans. It was kind of an ingenious idea.
January 25, 2021 @ 7:45 am
@Trigger, but the fact that in order for them to gain public (white) support for the removal of a confederate statue they had to choose a popular white figure…is part of the problem.
I understand how and why they linked it, but we’d be a lot better off if we could agree that: people who attacked the country in order to defend the institution of slavery shouldn’t be celebrated in statues and monuments, but instead appear in museums and history works as cautionary tales. Full stop, without needing any linking.
Then we could sit there and have a conversation about which 50 (or 100 or whatever number) Tenn individuals really belong as statues in the capitol, and Dolly would assuredly be one, along with other White and Black honorees.
January 24, 2021 @ 2:30 pm
Nothing cool or smooth about you, Missy.
January 24, 2021 @ 2:48 pm
ohemgee!! Did you just call me a DURL?????
Your witticism has cut me to the core! How will I ever put my life back together???
January 24, 2021 @ 3:57 pm
“…who refuse to denounce a terrorist attack on our Capitol (or the Big Lie of election fraud)..”
Actually, the ‘attack’ on the Capital was set up by your leftist brethren, the same people who refused to denounce the true domestic terrorists blm and antifa who were allowed to run around for 6 months rioting, looting, murdering and burning your country. And the evidence of election fraud is out there, but blind people who can’t think for themselves or step outside of the mainstream media echo chamber ignore it.
Enjoy the march to communism, Cool Lester Dildo. Lol
January 24, 2021 @ 4:23 pm
Let’s please not get into back and forths about the election. Let’s please keep comments about the topic at hand.
*Jimmy’s claims about the election are disputed.
🙂
January 25, 2021 @ 6:03 am
Bahahaha
I’d respect you more if you just admitted that you stand proudly with Nazis and traitors, against the duly elected government of the United States.
Collaborators and quislings are so much worse than crazies.
January 25, 2021 @ 12:05 pm
Typical Bidenazi.
January 26, 2021 @ 7:03 am
Hahahaha.
^Definitely someone who took personal offense at Biden saying we need to fight White Supremacy.
January 26, 2021 @ 7:48 am
Lester,
You are a legend in your own mind.
January 26, 2021 @ 5:36 pm
Hm?
There’s nothing particularly bold, or brave, or “legendary” about hating Nazis.
But hey – I also wouldn’t beat a cop with my “Blue Lives Matter” flag, because he tried to stop me from lynching the Republican VP.
Radical left wing agenda, obviously.
January 26, 2021 @ 6:31 pm
*yawn*
January 25, 2021 @ 12:34 pm
“duly elected government”
Lester, if you didn’t take every opportunity to sling partisan hack BS like this, there’s a slim chance your comments might make it out of the “scroll over” category.
Just trying to be helpful. I’ve had a good morning.
January 26, 2021 @ 7:01 am
Hahahaha
Feel free to stand with literal Nazis against Republican election officials and judges.
Just be honest about what you’re doing.
There’s nothing “Partisan” about this. There’s just reality on one (bipartisan) side and literal Nazis, grifters, and their marks on the other.
January 28, 2021 @ 10:49 am
It was a mostly peaceful protest.
January 28, 2021 @ 11:05 am
lol.
Tell that to 140 injured police officers…and the 3 dead ones.
To be clear – I’ve no issue with people attending the rally beforehand. If someone wants to stand in a crowd of Nazis and White Supremacists, while rich people lie to them…that’s their 1A right, through and through.
Beating a cop to death while attempting to lynch the VP (while the president refuses to send backup) is a different story.
January 28, 2021 @ 11:13 am
What does this have to do with Dolly Parton’s statue? Please keep the discussion on topic.
January 25, 2021 @ 9:02 am
Yeah, one attack on the Capitol and our republic (not democracy) is ending but it was OK for Antifa and BLM to loot and ravage cities for six months.
The hypocrisy is staggering. How about we not attack innocents?
January 25, 2021 @ 12:26 pm
“Melt that fucking Nathan Bedford Forrest statue, then have the debate.”
Lester, if his statue’s removal were put to popular vote, I’d vote with you. I believe it should be removed on the grounds that Forrest was the Klan’s first “grand wizard.” But it is critical, for all kinds of reasons, that removal be done by valid popular vote.
January 26, 2021 @ 7:17 am
The statue wasn’t put up “By popular vote,” though.
It was put up by Jim Crow Democrats, in order to intimidate black citizens and suppress democracy.
I’m not even someone who has a major problem with Stone Mountain, or even a Bob Lee statue (my ancestor may have lost most of his hand fighting him at Cedar Creek, but Lee saved countless lives at Appotomax) – a lot of these guys genuinely viewed their first duty as to their state, and it’s okay for states to honor that sacrifice.
…but Forrest isn’t even a Rommel figure. The man was a damn war criminal to boot.
January 26, 2021 @ 7:57 am
Sweetheart,
What newly printed & distributed, re-educated, history book have you been reading?
Were you referring to the Battle of Appomattox?
January 26, 2021 @ 9:55 am
“The statue wasn’t put up ‘By popular vote,’ though.”
Irrelevant. You’re missing the point. If you’re sure taking down Forrest’s statue will enjoy majority support, why not publicly make it clear that’s the case? It would be good for your state overall (if you’re even in TN, I don’t know). Sure, you can write nasty letters and throw bricks at whatever parks and recreation bureaucrat is sitting in some bureaucratic office. All you’ll end up doing is convincing everyone else that you’re a Bitchy Scold Who Wants to Rule.
And that sort of thing has a short shelf life.
January 26, 2021 @ 5:38 pm
…I love that you equivocate “nasty letters” and assault with a deadly weapon.
I’d be totally fine with a plebiscite on the issue – I just don’t think it’s necessary.
January 24, 2021 @ 12:45 pm
I just had a really weird idea pop in my mind.
How about, when we are determining who should be made into a statue, we ONLY consider whether or not the person was good and whether or not they contributed something positive to the lives of a significant number of people? And how about never considering shallow things that aren’t accomplishments and are immutable, like race and gender?
January 24, 2021 @ 12:48 pm
And for the record, Dolly’s a solid pick, but I’d go Roy Acuff if it has to be a Tennessee native.
January 24, 2021 @ 4:41 pm
I’m throwing Davy Crockett’s name in the hat too.
January 24, 2021 @ 4:54 pm
Donald Davidson would have to be considered.
January 25, 2021 @ 7:18 am
Of course, there is Old Hickory, born in the Carolinas, but most associated with Tennessee. One of the greatest presidents. Nathan Bedford Forrest, one of the finest military commanders in American history. An obscure, but incredibly important Tennessean is Sam Francis, born in Chattanooga. Francis interpreted, expanded, and modernized the work of James Burnham and he and Burnham are the most important political analysts of the past century. Their work on the managerial state, technocracy, and middle American radicals best explains our present situation.
January 25, 2021 @ 8:32 am
If your post is, as it seems to be, a list of possible contenders for an alternative statue, then are you seriously suggestiing they replace the statue of Nathan Bedford Forrest with a statue of… Nathan Bedford Forrest? Wouldn’t it save a lot of expense to just leave the old one where it is?
January 25, 2021 @ 8:38 am
Yeah. Worded poorly. It would be nice to re-dedicate it.
January 25, 2021 @ 10:11 am
@RD
No, no more Demokkkrat statues.
January 24, 2021 @ 12:54 pm
Basically, hustlers gonna hustle.
The symbols are currency in selling clout (as you hit on), ratings, political power, and identity. People, for the most part, don’t care about the real issues. If they did, they would have cared about Tara Reade, or the fact that you can watch our new morally superior leader groping and sniffing children on C-SPAN. The disconnect between what they claim to care about and what they actaully do, is becoming more blatant by the day. This isn’t exclusive to one side of the divide, of course. But damn, the blatant hypocrisy on display right now is truly something to behold.
January 24, 2021 @ 1:13 pm
…I’ve started to see a lot of complaints from you that Joe Biden hugged his grandchildren at his son’s funeral.
It’s a very odd line of attack, haha.
(Apologies, if the video you’re complaining about is him hugging the special-needs child of a Parkland victim…but it’s still an odd point).
January 24, 2021 @ 1:20 pm
Case in point. I wondered if you might be the first person to downplay or defend that.
January 24, 2021 @ 1:29 pm
Again: Which instance are you complaining about?
Him hugging his granddaughters at his son’s funeral, or him hugging the special needs son of a Parkland victim?
Are there other examples, of him treating grieving children like my great-aunt, an Irish nun, does?
It’s just such a weird thing to latch onto, haha – especially when the last guy used to brag about walking into teenagers’ dressing rooms.
January 24, 2021 @ 1:35 pm
Nope. See below. And I find it interesting that you think mentioning this twice is “latching on” and that you seem to not want me to mention it.
Anyway, not going to keep going back and forth on this. As I said, case in point.
January 24, 2021 @ 1:54 pm
I say “latching onto” because I’ve seen you mention it in at least a dozen different comment sections at this point…and always unprompted.
Like I said, “Sure the last guy used to brag about sexually assaulting women, and breaking into teenagers’ dressing rooms, and has been credibly accused of sexual assault by multiple people…but Biden treats other people’s children like he does his grandkids!!!!” is an incredibly odd thing to get outraged about, to the point of constantly repeating it apropos of nothing.
January 24, 2021 @ 1:28 pm
And no that video isn’t what I’m referring to. I didn’t think this was real until I looked them up on C-SPAN.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_H5NJZMDumY
You find it “odd” to have a major objection to this, or think it’s worth discussing?
January 24, 2021 @ 1:49 pm
My God!
Nearly 8 minutes of him…treating children exactly the same way he does his own grandchildren, haha.
Paddy is free to correct me…but that’s straight up “Irish Grandpa” behaviour.
Is your family as WASP-y as my mom’s, haha? Her father defaults to a handshake, while my dad’s side makes cheek-kisses mandatory.
None of this invalidates any women or girls who feel like Biden was invading their personal space, and being more physically affectionate than was appropriate, given their relationship or lack thereof!
But that video is far more “Overly Affectionate Grandpa” than “Creepy Old Man.”
January 24, 2021 @ 1:50 pm
He sucks. This is weird and gross. I’m personally more concerned with the sexual assault allegations, but yeah he sucks. I didn’t vote for him in the primaries and was disappointed he was the candidate that embodied my values best in the main race.
I can’t speak for all Democrats, but this is a pretty common opinion on this side of the aisle. I gladly await the day I can vote for a better Democratic candidate to office.
January 24, 2021 @ 2:13 pm
I’m with you on that, actually, but I think its difficult because of what I was describing.
Sorry Trigger, was trying to say this is part of a bigger issue, and that was one of the most concrete examples, but I will try to steer away.
On a lighter note, it wouldn’t shock me if Dolly chimed in and said something like, any statue of her would likely fall over anyway.
January 24, 2021 @ 2:26 pm
Honestly, I’m just glad our discussions about presidential photo ops now revolve around whether his being overly familiar with other people’s children is creepy or standard “Old White Man” shit…rather than whether priests deserve to be teargassed for being outside on the grounds of their church.
Likewise, the financial news being “Joe Biden owns a Rolex!” Rather than “The president is charging taxpayers full price, for the Secret Service to stay in his properties while performing their official duties.”
January 24, 2021 @ 1:54 pm
Can we please avoid Presidential political discussions here, especially if they’re not relevant to the current discussion? It just never ends well. Thanks!
January 24, 2021 @ 12:57 pm
They should put up a statue of jolene instead.
January 24, 2021 @ 1:27 pm
If Tennesseeans can’t agree that majority rule provides legitimacy to a decision, the obvious alternative is to have no statue at all.
Even better: remove all statues, all placques, all memorials, and all names from all public buildings. Then have Tennessee’s neighborhoods go to war with each other. Whichever neighborhood kills the most people wins and gets to choose who gets turned into a statue and placed at the Capitol as a Good Person of Virtue.
Otherwise, majority rules. And if you want statues to more people on public grounds, make more effing statues and put them up. Doing so might actually employ some people in the Arts.
January 24, 2021 @ 1:45 pm
Man the anti-racism of Robin DiAngelo and Ibram Kendi has to be one of the most toxic components in Modern American society-
January 24, 2021 @ 2:02 pm
Honestly, you dont even have to read the article, just look at the Twitter Avi, the pinned tweet, and read the lede.
If you did that and expected anything coherent in the body of the article beyond “any erected statue needs to be of a black person because ‘reasons’”, that’s your own fault.
IMO, articles like this shouldn’t even be covered. You’re giving that guy hits and incentive to continue writing vain, neoracist drivel that certain self flagellating populations in our country can’t get enough of.
January 24, 2021 @ 2:41 pm
I appreciate this opinion, but in my experience, the idea of starving oxygen from something you dislike until it dies rarely works out the way you want it to. Case in point, people have been trying to do that with this site for years, including some behind this “Dolly Parton statue is racist” idea.
There’s nothing wrong with differing viewpoints. As I said in the article, it’s not that the discussion about putting a black person in there is without merit. But the argument should be made with all the information presented fairly.
January 24, 2021 @ 3:18 pm
I would agree with that. There’s a fine, contemptuous line between “refusing to validate” and ignoring, and it’s not one that I would want to have to walk professionally, so hats off to you for even being in the arena.
To me, the fundamental problem with these is that they aren’t good faith arguments made by serious people. These are musings of a narcissistic blowhard who would routinely use his identity as a weapon when given an opportunity because it’s an effective (and easy) tool. And to what avail? The point of the article isn’t to stop a statue, it’s to further the career and expand the clout of its shameless author.
It’s all so transparent, gross, and tiresome.
January 24, 2021 @ 2:30 pm
“a bias Dolly Parton fan ”
think you meant “biased”
.y.t…..grammar police.
good article, thanks.
January 24, 2021 @ 7:22 pm
Aretha Franklin? Wouldn’t this be better suited for Michigan?
January 25, 2021 @ 3:23 pm
Yes Aretha is much better recognized by Detroit. She was born on Mclemore down the street from Stax in Memphis, but her family moved when she was a very small child. Memphis hasn’t restored her house, it sits rotting away, sadly.
January 24, 2021 @ 10:50 pm
Is there already an Elvis statue in the Tennessee capitol? An Elvis statue really makes a lot of sense, especially since he’s been dead for over 40 years. Aretha Franklin moved out of Tennessee when she was 2 years old. She grew up in Buffalo and Detroit. While not a Tennessee native, B.B. King was much more a Tennessean than Aretha was. His influence was huge on radio and on the music in Memphis – most especially on Beale Street. I was thinking about W.C. Handy possibly being a statue candidate, as his home/museum is located on Beale Street, but it turns out he only lived in Memphis for about 8 years. So, Elvis, Dolly, and B.B. King would all be good candidates, if you ask me.
January 25, 2021 @ 12:34 am
Sadly the Rolling Stone is no longer s music magazine and it obvious that they have no tolerance for the views of others. Long stopped reading it. I would think Dolly is a well deserving cause.
January 25, 2021 @ 4:50 am
I’m not sure Tennessee currently has the resources required to create a bust of Dolly Parton. They need that metal for syringes and armored vehicles. Although it would create some jobs in the foundry industry it would leave two giant strip mine holes and I don’t think that would make our new administration very happy.
(Apologies if somebody already made that joke.)
((I never made the connection before, but I’m surprised there is no ‘Opinion’ Category, and I’d be surprised if this article wasn’t in it–were that Category to exist, as it probably should?))
January 25, 2021 @ 9:00 am
I like statues that honor genius.
Wells, Dolly, and Forrest were geniuses in their respective fields.
That being said, Twitter is a wasteland.
January 25, 2021 @ 11:46 am
My wife’s great grandfather served as a Colonel in the MS Calvary under the command of General Forrest.
The family had no slaves and little money.
He fought an invading army.
I would like to purchase the statue from the state. In fact, I’m going to look into it.
Thanks for the heads up, Trig.
I live in Knoxville (most of the time) and we all love and respect Dolly very, very much.
January 25, 2021 @ 4:47 pm
Trigger,
My last comment was a fair criticism of both sides. Why did you censor it?
Also, is your perpetual moderation of me tethered to my IP address, or to my email address?
January 25, 2021 @ 5:17 pm
Balanced or not (it wasn’t), it was too far off topic.
January 25, 2021 @ 5:36 pm
It was balanced. I criticized Conservative Confederate statue supporters and leftist Confederate statue haters. How is that not balanced?
Also, you’ve got folks calling folks Nazi. How is this article remotely related to 1930’s Germany?
January 25, 2021 @ 6:17 pm
Convenient that you let this comment through. The meat of my point is gone. My reason for criticizing both sides was the part that matters most.
I’m sick of this sh!t man. I’ve supported this site for nearly a decade.
January 25, 2021 @ 5:32 pm
Trigger,
Why are you censoring all my comments?
You have folks on here calling each other Nazis. I haven’t name-called other readers directly. Why are singling me out? What is it about me?
January 25, 2021 @ 5:50 pm
Honky,
First off, you have multiple comments posted in this very comments section. So no, I am not censoring all of your comments.
Also, as I have said over and over, you only see the comments that you post that get removed. That doesn’t mean others weren’t also removed. They were, you just didn’t see them. There are also many commenters whose comments go to moderation before being posted because like you, they love to veer off topic. You’re not special.
I understand your frustration. I am frustrated too that people cannot respect my wishes to stay on the topics discussed, and to avoid divisive subjects. But if we can’t stay on topic, there will be no more website to leave comments on. The #1 complaint I receive from former readers is the comments sections here are out of control. It’s going to take a commitment from us all to keep the discussion here healthy, and on topic.
January 25, 2021 @ 6:06 pm
You let folks call each other Nazis, and you don’t delete it. Now I don’t care, personally. But allowing those comments to stay doesn’t line up with any of the explanations you give.
January 26, 2021 @ 5:51 pm
Only people I’m calling Nazis are the guys who were wearing swastikas, “6MWE,” and “Camp Auschwitz Staff” shirts in the Capitol 3 weeks ago.
Not everyone standing alongside them is a Nazi…but, by definition, they are stand alongside Nazis.
Feel free to keep blubbering about “censorship” or whatever (Trigger owns the site. He makes the rules. Love it or leave it, snowflake.) but, at the end of the day, you’ll have to decide for yourself whether or not you enjoy standing alongside Nazis.
I know my answer.
January 27, 2021 @ 10:05 am
I don’t care what people call each other; that’s not my point. It’s just one illustration I used to make my point.
My point is, that you and others(on both sides) are permitted to veer off topic regularly, while I am not. Telling me that this is Trigger’s site and that he makes the rules, is moot, both from a technical and legal standpoint, as well as from the standpoint of my personal opinion(which would be irrelevant since it’s not my site), since I’ve never suggested otherwise on either front. I support everyone’s(including publishers’) right to harbor whatever biases they want to. All I’m asking, and all I’ve ever asked, is for transparency.
Maybe post a list of names of the commenters who are permitted to veer off topic or to use the majority of their comments for the purposes trolling or name-calling(which I seldom if ever do). That way, we’d know, “if my name isn’t on the list, don’t bother talking.”
Obviously, you and I don’t agree on much, if anything, but I typically don’t talk to you, because Trigger won’t allow me to respond to you in kind. I’d prefer not to veer off topic, but once somebody does, I can’t help myself, and it would be nice to have conversations with people that I disagree with.
January 27, 2021 @ 10:24 am
Such Victimhood. Much wow.
January 27, 2021 @ 11:14 am
Huh? That’s your takeaway? Okay.
Trigger protects you from real scrutiny, because he agrees with you most of the time, and wants your opinions to be front and center in his comment sections. Just be happy about it. It’s a privilege.
January 27, 2021 @ 11:26 am
Honky, Cool Lester’s comments have been moderated as well. And not because I disagree with them, but because they’re off topic.
January 27, 2021 @ 11:47 am
@Trigger,
In this comment section on an article about a Dolly Parton statue, you’ve allowed him to call other commenters Nazis, along with referencing the election and other non-Dolly-Parton-statue-related issues.
Is calling other commenters Nazis, ON the topic of a Dolly Parton statue, or OFF the topic of a Dolly Parton statue?
January 27, 2021 @ 12:55 pm
And off-topic comments have been allowed to slide from you as well. I try to give folks some leeway. I absolutely hate moderating comments. But when the conversation starts devolving to back and forths, that is when it becomes a problem.
January 26, 2021 @ 5:52 pm
(I’ve actually deliberately avoided making an old German joke, about what you call a table of 10 guys sitting and chatting with a Nazi, out of deference to the decorum).
January 28, 2021 @ 6:22 pm
Lester, you’re a pathetic little man, but I guess Trigger has a soft spot for you.
And Trigger runs this site, so if he thinks it’s ok for you to call me and other people nazis, I guess that’s his choice.
January 28, 2021 @ 6:27 pm
The above comment has been edited.
Posting threats to other commenters can and will get you banned from these comment sections.
January 26, 2021 @ 7:26 pm
Trig, there’s a pretty good book that sheds light on all this: Andrey Mir’s Postjournalism. As a journalist, you are sure to find it interesting. I’m also sure that there will be statues of Dolly at some point, and of Loretta, if people remember how to make statues that are actually beautiful. That remains to be seen.
January 26, 2021 @ 11:50 pm
Most people do not have it bad enough that they are willing to do what it takes (risk their life or die) to get the change needed. Yes people protested but eventually they went to home or to work or to dinner to get the kids… I’m talking about real constant protest.. They did not stick it out or take the march from town to town…
And the wealthy control all that we want changed from the top down and they certainly don’t seem interested in change.
So my advice is do what you want to with your life. I spent WAY to much time shouting about systemic change wasting my breath. So I’m just going to live my life and do what I want and if things happen to change fine but I’m not holding my breath.
All this other stuff is is just wasted pandering that is changing nothing. But I get it these pandering changes (Uncle Ben etc.) make people feel like they have power, when in fact they do not. It is also a great way to distract oneself from dealing with the harder scarier things.
That tangent aside. I agree that a Statue of both Dolly and Aretha side by side would be brilliant. Just don’t use whoever did the Lucille Ball statue.
January 29, 2021 @ 11:28 am
Tearing down statues does zero to help anyone.
Just political theatrics in response to a very loud radical left.
It’s obvious, they just don’t want to see another white person statue.
We live in an era where it’s fashionable to demonize people of European ancestry.
Everything has got to be black this and black that.
Those legislators time would be better spent on promoting business growth to increase employment levels.
Money in your pocket helps everyone.
January 30, 2021 @ 3:49 pm
I always thought you were only supposed to build statues of people after they’re dead. So building a statue of a living person would be kind of like a bad omen.