Rhiannon Giddens Has “Complicated Feelings” about Beyoncé’s “Cowboy Carter”

Rhiannon Giddens has a very busy April ahead of her. On April 18th, she’ll be releasing her latest album What Did The Blackbird Say to the Crow with Justin Robinson. Fans can expect a prime selection of traditional roots music from the album, not dissimilar to what Giddens has built her career on. Then April 25th to the 27th, she will be hosting her inaugural Biscuits & Banjos music festival in Durham, NC where her old band the Carolina Chocolate Drops will reunite.
But what has a lot of people talking at the moment is Rhiannon’s comments about her participation in Beyoncé’s album Cowboy Carter that she revealed in a feature in Rolling Stone. The article characterized that Giddens has “complicated feelings” about her involvement in the project that saw Beyoncé use Rhiannon’s banjo and viola in the album’s big single “Texas Hold ‘Em.”
On the positive side, Giddens says, “Because of all the things I’ve been fighting for my whole life, it’s been difficult to be seen as a Black musician, especially since I’m mixed. But for the first time, I felt acceptance from the mainstream Black community, which made me weep.”
It might sound weird to some who’ve never been to a Rhiannon Giddens or Carolina Chocolate Drops concert, but the shows draw a mostly White audience, and it’s Black listeners that are difficult to engage with.
But it was some of the other things Rhiannon Giddens said about the Cowboy Carter experience—or maybe what she didn’t say—that has some wondering if that experience was less than ideal.
In the interview, Giddens remarks, “When I think about my banjo playing, I think of the lineage I have received through Joe Thompson and everyone who taught him … this connection to a very deep piece of my culture. Every time I pull my banjo out, I’m thinking of that.”
Giddens continues, “If ever I do something that seems counter to that, there’s a very good reason. There are two examples I could pull out, in my entire 20-year career, where I feel like I had to make a compromise in order for a greater good. This was one of those times. What was hard for me was to feel that gift treated as any other transaction in the music industry.”
Though you have to sort of parse though what Giddens is saying, she seems to be implying that her banjo part on “Texas Hold ‘Em” wasn’t used in the Joe Thompson tradition, and instead of being handled with a sense of reverence or understanding of Black banjo history, was simply utilized as just another element in the song by just another contributor.
For those who don’t know, Joe Thompson was considered one of the last true old-time Black string band musicians. He passed away in 2012.
Giddens also said, “I did it for the mission. So, my idea of what the mission is and somebody else’s idea of what the mission is are not going to be the same thing. There’s a reason why I’m not a multi-millionaire. If you are a multi-millionaire, there are reasons why. No shade, whatever. It means you do things in a certain way.”
She then continued, “I don’t do this because I want to look pretty and make a lot of money, and so when I rub up against that world, it’s always hard.”
Though none of us should be so presumptive as to put words into the mouth of Rhiannon Giddens, you can definitely tell there is some disappointment both how Giddens was utilized on Cowboy Carter, and how the overall “mission” of the album was approached.
The simple fact is that Cowboy Carter did not achieve the mission it set out to, or at least the mission that was assigned to it by so many in the press and in academia before its release. Many promised it would revolutionize country music, dramatically open country up to Black and Brown performers—especially women of color—and reclaim the banjo’s Black origins.
But here nearly a year after the release, it’s empirically true Cowboy Carter did not achieve any of these things. It’s true that country music continues to open up more for Black and Brown performers, but it’s uncertain, if not unlikely, Cowboy Carter has anything to do with that.
Despite the scores of media pieces proclaiming the album reclaimed the banjo for Black culture, the only song on the 27-track album that featured banjo was “Texas Hold ‘Em.” The discussions around the album perhaps did educate some that the Banjo’s origins are in Africa, but it doesn’t feel like it was a sea change moment around banjo misconceptions.
Perhaps Cowboy Carter could have achieved all of these missions if it had been approached differently, or the “mission” had been different as Giddens says. But when we heard the actual album, it felt much more like a pop/hip-hop/R&B hybrid with a few country inflections as opposed to an actual country project.
Beyoncé herself said point blank, “This ain’t a country album.” Every indication is Beyoncé never had any intention to release a country album. It was fans, the press, and others that impressed this upon her. In fact, calling the album country seems to insult Beyoncé’s artistic intent.
Rhiannon Giddens is not alone as a Black woman in roots music feeling like Cowboy Carter missed the mark, or at least, didn’t achieve the right mission. Guitar player Yasmin Williams also questioned the credibility, motivations, and outcomes of Cowboy Carter.
Why change the lyrics to Jolene? Why give Miley Cyrus and Post Malone longer, more involved features while the black country artists on their features get only small snippets of singing time? Why cover Blackbird and add literally nothing to it but some random background vocals?
A black country renaissance album with Post Malone and Miley Cyrus on it… and even a Levi’s plug! Whew.
If this is the album that was supposed to reclaim & spread awareness of the black roots of country music, it’s doing a poor job. This seems to be more of an attempt to capitalize on the growing popularity of pop-country than to actually educate anyone on the history of the genre.
Rhiannon Giddens seems to be saying somewhat similar things, just much more judiciously and measured.
Meanwhile, much of the media and many in the public still regard Cowboy Carter as a revolutionary album in country music and American culture, while also not acknowledging the incredible cratering in consumption the album also experienced, meaning it didn’t even really have the cultural impact some assign to it.
History has a way of eventually winning bad arguments, and there were many bad arguments that were made on behalf of Cowboy Carter. But if you were someone like Rhiannon Giddens or others that hoped Cowboy Carter could have been revolutionary, it’s difficult to not be disappointed, despite the Grammy wins for Best Country Album and all genre Album of the Year.
Cowboy Carter very well could have an incredibly revolutionary moment in country music. Instead, it was just a pop album, and according to the consumption numbers behind it, not even a particularly appealing one.
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March 27, 2025 @ 9:07 am
“Because of all the things I’ve been fighting for my whole life..”
“I did it for the mission.“
Does anyone play music just because it’s fun anymore? Not as a means to some ideal end…but just for the simple gratification of feeling your hands on an instrument and having a listener enjoy what they’re hearing.
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March 27, 2025 @ 9:20 am
That’s so ’90s.
March 27, 2025 @ 9:34 am
I think Rhiannon Giddens has tons of fun playing music. But I also respect her principle of only playing music with purpose behind it, and music that adheres to the roots traditions she looks to evoke, uphold, and pay forward. I don’t see this as any different than what many traditional country artists do by refusing to include certain modern elements in their music.
Over the years, I’ve been a little frustrated that Rhiannon Giddens never released a more pragmatic and accessible album. These quotes really spell out to me why that is, and I 100% respect it.
I don’t know for sure, but I wonder if the other time she “compromised” was singing “Kill a Word” with Eric Church, which she saw was good for “the mission.”
March 27, 2025 @ 11:13 am
Shouldn’t “Kill a Word” be a rap song? lol
The irony
March 27, 2025 @ 8:25 pm
Huh? I don’t understand
March 27, 2025 @ 5:18 pm
He voice is good enough that if she had sold out she would have been much bigger. I really respect what she has done.
March 27, 2025 @ 9:19 am
It’s funny that anyone would think that this turd of an album would be heralded as some masterpiece that pays tributes to the roots of black music. It’s intellectually dishonst for anyone to think otherwise.That brief banjo part that could easily be mistaken for Keith Urban’s guitar-banjo playing. They just slapped on a small superficial detail in hopes others would consider it to be more significant. That was just a lame attempt to try to get special treatment – isn’t that what these efforts of equality boil down to anyway?
March 27, 2025 @ 11:35 am
I have come around to the point of the album was to more directly appeal to white music critics to win album of the year at the Grammys. She plainly was bothered by losing that multiple times to Taylor swift and I think she wanted to create an album to win over any holdouts so she could get that last thing she hadn’t gotten. And hey it worked.
March 27, 2025 @ 12:53 pm
That makes sense actually. It’s also why award shoes like the Grammy’s and the Oscars are mostly pointless because they often end up honoring people when it’s “their turn” and not when it’s best album – Like with Paul Newman winning an oscar for The Color of Money but not Cool Hand Luke, The Hustler, The Sting or any of his other better movies.
March 27, 2025 @ 2:57 pm
Cars was his best movie.
March 27, 2025 @ 7:22 pm
Horseman, Pass By (HUD)
March 27, 2025 @ 11:33 am
“I had to make a compromise in order for a greater good. This was one of those times.”
What “greater good”?
“What was hard for me was to feel that gift treated as any other transaction in the music industry.”
It had no other chance, and it never had any other chance.
To think otherwise is … I don’t know what to call it. Cringingly naive? Blindly arrogant? Totally clueless?
This all sounds like how smart people sound when they make a mistake and can’t admit it because it would cost them.
March 27, 2025 @ 11:48 am
I think in this case, the greater good was trying to get the banjo traditions that Rhiannon Giddens has spent 20 years trying to uphold and pay forward to a bigger audience, and I’m not going to blame her for that. Was she perhaps naive in what the outcome would be? Maybe, but at least she’s admitting what the outcome was when so much of the rest of popular media is still portraying “Cowboy Carter” as transformational.
I also don’t blame Rhiannon Giddens for walking on eggshells here. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been called a racist over the last year for using Beyonce’s own words to explain how it’s insulting to her artistic intent to call “Cowboy Carter” country. The Beyhive loves to swarm and destroy anyone who they perceive is disrespecting the Queen.
March 27, 2025 @ 12:03 pm
Granted, and we should all not be okay with the media situation you describe.
No one cares that a few people are trying to portray “Cowboy Carter” as “transformational.” It’s a cynical and pretty brainless thing designed simply to cash in.
So Giddens is trying to make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear. We could admire her attempt, or we could, like a friend, take her by the arm and say “you know, some things are best left alone. This is one of those things. Let it burn.”
March 27, 2025 @ 12:55 pm
You have to consider the source in regards to those racist accusations.
March 27, 2025 @ 1:02 pm
The average music listener doesn’t give a shit about the “greater good.” They just want to listen to music they enjoy.
This is what music activ-, er, journalists, don’t realize.
March 27, 2025 @ 1:29 pm
“The average music listener doesn’t give a shit about the “greater good.” They just want to listen to music they enjoy.”
I wouldn’t disagree with that. But the vast majority of artists aside from the top sellouts in the industry, they do care about the influence and impact of their music, and think about it intentionally. I don’t think Rhiannon Giddens is alone in that, even if her insistence upon standing behind her principles is more significant than most.
March 27, 2025 @ 1:53 pm
HORSESHIT.
Most of today’s “artists” are in it for the money.
And, i think Rhiannon Giddens and Francesco are great.
March 27, 2025 @ 4:10 pm
Francesco and Rhiannon Giddens parted ways in December.
And no “most” of today’s artists are not in it for the money. If they we’re the jokes on them, because they would be making more money stocking lumber at The Home Depot. Maybe the big mainstream names are in it for the money, but they make up less than 0.5% of the musician population, even if they get a majority of the attention.
March 27, 2025 @ 4:28 pm
Am very sorry to hear that about Rhiannon & Francesco.
And, you are wrong about most modern “artists” not being in it for the money.
Don’t get defensive. We merely have opposing views on this.
March 27, 2025 @ 5:00 pm
No, I am not wrong that most modern artists and not in it for the money. It is an empirical, statistical truth, verified by how many of them are barely scraping by. I’ve devoted the last 18 years of my life trying to support these artists and bring them out of the shadows, and I don’t appreciate seeing this irresponsible and incorrect sentiment in my comments section just because it makes for a good applause line.
We don’t have opposing views. You have the wrong one.
April 2, 2025 @ 9:17 pm
I have to agree with MH on this. And maybe a lot more artists should put more trust in the wisdom of crowds as a judge of their art and less into making professional critics happy.
Sorry this usually means selling out to someone who can promote the music.
But if you don’t have people who enjoy your music, you aren’t an artist, you are just some who makes noise with an instrument.
April 3, 2025 @ 7:20 am
I’m not sure where anyone said Rhiannon Giddens is trying to make “professional critics happy.” I think she sees herself as an important vessel to carrying certain banjo and string band traditions forward for preservation, no different than a lot of traditional country artists approach their music. That tends to make critics happy, and keeps the masses at bay. But that’s not necessarily the intention.
March 27, 2025 @ 2:18 pm
We should all be listening to Swamp Dogg’s “Blackgrass: From West Virginia to 125th St”. That’s all I have to say.
March 27, 2025 @ 2:46 pm
It really is kind of bs that the same critics who only focused on Beyonce and pushing the “country music isn’t accepting of black artist” or some variation of that narrative remain silent when it comes to actual black talent in the genre whether it be Gideons, Trey Wellington, Charlie Crockett, or many others. But hey click bait headlines pay the bills these days for them.
March 27, 2025 @ 3:01 pm
So her contribution to the album was the musical equivalent of an actor who does independent films having a small role in a Marvel movie to help pay the bills/fund their passion projects? Nothing wrong with that, IMO
March 27, 2025 @ 3:24 pm
She referenced this is one of two times she felt she had to compromise for the greater good. I wonder if the other was collaborating on the Red Dead Redemption 2 soundtrack.
March 27, 2025 @ 5:20 pm
I wouldn’t think that would be it. The soundtrack done what it set out to do. It doesn’t strike me as a sellout moment. It’s is very period and spaghetti western inspired.
March 28, 2025 @ 9:06 am
makes music that only white people like then complains about it. what a joke. if she wants widespread acceptance from the black community then she should start making hip-hop, or R&B music. She’ll have to add lots or electronic drums, trap beats, drill beats and auto tune to get any real acceptance from mainstream black listeners tho.
March 28, 2025 @ 10:13 am
So first, I’m not reading where Rhiannon Giddens is “complaining” about Black people not listening to her music. What I read is she wasn’t previously accepted by that community because she doesn’t make popular music, and then she expressed gratefulness for finally being accepted and acknowledged.
Second, I’m truly surprised at so many people taking a run at Rhiannon Giddens for expressing her frustrations at her experience with “Cowboy Carter.” A lot of traditionalists seem to be mad at Giddens as opposed to using it as validation that their instincts about Beyonce’s “country” album were correct, that it was more a commercial product, and didn’t even really address the things many in the press assigned to it. Instead, you’re going after Rhiannon Giddens who’s spent her entire career releasing pure, unadulterated acoustic string band music from the folk/minstrel influence, and is a staunch traditionalist. Maybe she should have turned the opportunity down, but how was she supposed to know what “Cowboy Carter” would become so early in the process? I don’t really understand it.
March 28, 2025 @ 3:16 pm
She should have known the outcome because Beyonce.
March 28, 2025 @ 10:13 am
Rhiannon and Beyoncé’s problem here is that they believe the country music world wants politics shoehorned into our music. We don’t. All we care about is, is the music good. Period. Rhiannon’s mission sounds like dei woke bullshit. And it’s partly why she’s a lesser figure in the genre as opposed to a huge star. Beyoncé and pop is different because it’s not a niche genre. Country, despite its current popularity, is very much niche. As such we consumers and lovers of it, have strong opinions on how it should sound. Rhiannon is interested in pushing a one sided agenda. That black people created the genre and are being ignored . Trigger has written mountains of articles about how blacks have been sidelined in the past but that the genre itself has corrected itself and gone out of its way in books, documentaries and in the museums and hall of fame to point out the contributions of Black Country artists. Rhiannon’s mission seems outdated as such and it’s also more than a little racist. It wasn’t just blacks who created the genre. Rhiannon and Beyoncé seem to be positing that the genres sole and only importance is that blacks played a role in its creation. All while ignoring the vast and equally important role other races had.
Beyoncé’s issue wasn’t that she joined the country world. Her issue was that she tried to suggest she was literally saving country music or making it cool again which is laughable. We are fine with or without here. The genre is doing just fine.
We love this genre because of the storytelling. You can be green, purple or blue for all we care, as long as the storytelling is compelling we are in. Beyoncé and Rhiannon both aren’t storytellers. They are activists. There’s a difference and we can smell it a mile away. There’s no effort or preserve the traditional ways of the sound or of the instruments. They are out to remake the genre in their own image and tear the structures down. The good news is we as country music lovers have the choice to either approve or disapprove. And in both cases we disapprove. Country music should mean something.
March 28, 2025 @ 1:05 pm
As I said in another comment, I am surprised so many people are taking a run at Rhiannon Giddens for her comments when in some respects the undermine the credibility of “Cowboy Carter,” however softly. Rhiannon Giddens has been very vital to helping to re-instill the truths about the Black influences in country music, and I applaud her for that. I don’t think I’ve ever heard her say anything like country IS Black music and White people have no agency in it.
March 28, 2025 @ 5:30 pm
I think people here view Rhiannon as ungrateful. Not to Beyoncé but to US! She seems to have enjoyed her life and career. She has multiple bands, and seems to make enough money to tour and play the music she loves. The rub though is how she’s always in the media complaining. I didn’t care about the Beyoncé album, that wasn’t made for our community at SCM. But the feeling we all get from Rhiannon in the media is that she hates her own genre like that moron Jason isbell. It’s no wonder they are friends! In that wonderful PBS documentary on country music, Rhiannon’s only contribution came from appearing on screen and constantly saying how racist and ignorant our music and genre is. How blacks have been sidelined and silenced. It’s boring, comes off as ungrateful to be in this genre, and it’s just plain silly. It would be like Beyoncé herself complaining she was silenced, which she did. She complained and her husband whined she never won a Album of the year Grammy. All this despite being the most awarded Grammy artist ever. And despite being…Beyoncé, global megastar pop icon worth 500 million. Rhiannon seems cut from the same cloth. Instead of I don’t know, loving this genre, this tradition, this institution, she spits on it constantly by saying how blacks have never been part of it. It’s like, Honey(drop), please.
March 30, 2025 @ 7:20 pm
If your comment were any lazier it would be whining about food stamps.
Calling Giddens DEI anything is beyond ignorant
March 28, 2025 @ 10:58 am
Meh…Cowboy Carter brought much focus and attention to black country artists like Shaboozey & Linda Martell…so from that perspective, it was a success. But i don’t think Beyonce ever said CC was about reclaiming country music….iirc that was a label put on it by the media and twitterdom. Anyway, Rhiannon needs to stop whining. Never look a gift horse in the mouth.
March 28, 2025 @ 1:01 pm
I do think “Cowboy Carter” succeeded in some respects for raising awareness of Linda Martell and other things. I also 100% agree that it wasn’t Beyonce’s intent with “Cowboy Carter” to “reclaim” country music. Nonetheless, this was the charge that many in the media impressed upon it, including Taylor Crumpton at Time Magazine that went mega viral for saying the walls of Music Row would fall and Black artist would reclaim country, which was rightfully theirs.
March 28, 2025 @ 12:02 pm
To give someone an opportunity to be heard musically with a different musical fanbase is priceless. If your mission was different than what was presented, this lady should have respectfully declined and created her own mission more suited for her mission. Sounds very unappreciated, Beyonce could have gotten anyone to play that banjo. Period
March 28, 2025 @ 1:02 pm
Seeing how it took some 6+ years for “Cowboy Carter” to come out, I’m not sure it’s fair to expect Rhiannon Giddens to know the full scope of the album when she agreed to participate.
March 31, 2025 @ 5:45 pm
Ms Giddings regrets giving her ‘historically preserved art’ to a fun pop song. Her aristitry has taken a hit. She is now slumming it with PeeWees playhouse. Who cares. It’s not country but it is fun…
Stuff the ‘high fluluting’ crap. And settle down.
April 2, 2025 @ 12:16 am
And while I’ve been telling people about Beyone saying it was not a country album, a friend said to me, “Well then she should not have accepted the country Grammy.” Citing Dolly Parton releasing a rock record to appease the R ‘n’ R Hall Of Fame.
I agree with her on the greater good in theory but all I have seen is people name dropping to win an argument while knowing nothing about her or her music. And yes like most jazz show I attend black people are hard to find at her shows as well.
But if one person goes and looks further I think that’s a win. The mainstream will always mainstream and thankfully the mainstream is a SMALL minority of music fans overall.