Stuart Baker Axed From Squidbillies After Dolly Parton Comments
After 15 seasons and 123 episodes of voicing an ornery redneck squid as part of the Adult Swim animated Series Squidbillies on Cartoon Network, voice actor, guitar player, and comedic country musician Stuart D. Baker—also known as Unknown Hinson—is out. The voice behind Early Cuyler—who was the main character of the show—made multiple insensitive comments toward Dolly Parton and minorities on August 13th in connection to Black Lives Matter.
“We are aware of the extremely offensive and derogatory social media posts made late last week by Stuart D. Baker,” said show creators Jim Fortier and Dave Willis in a statement. “The views he expressed do not reflect our own personal values of the show that we and many others have worked hard to produce over the past 15 years. For those reasons, production of ‘Squidbillies’ will continue without Mr. Baker, effective immediately.”
After an August 13th Billboard cover story characterized Dolly Parton as backing the Black Lives Matter movement—and later many other outlets ran with the story including Consequences of Sound—Stuart Baker reacted on his personal Facebook page to the news with multiple incendiary comments.
“So, now this freak tittied, old Southern bimbo is a BLM lover? Remember, slut, Rednecks made you a Millionaire!” Baker said. He then added later after negative reactions, “Yeah leave. Leave Liberals! Unfriend me, please. Because I don’t want you UN-AMERICANS around! Have fun becoming an Eloi or something without a thought of your own where you bow down to the ALL-KNOWING-MINORITY! HAVE FUN forsaking your own race, culture, and heritage. Have a nice time!”
The posts were later removed, and eventually Stuart Baker deleted his Facebook account, but not before screenshots were taken and spread across the internet, with some pointing out other insensitive comments Baker has been making on his personal account recently. Many began demanding that Baker be removed from the Squidbillies show, and some called for the show’s cancellation entirely.
Along with playing Early Cuyler on the Squidbillies, Stuart Baker also previously performed under the persona Unknown Hinson, who called himself the “Kang of Country & Western Troubadours,” and professed to be a 300-year-old vampire. The persona was first created for the Charlotte, North Carolina public-access program The Wild Wild South that featured comedy sketches with co-star Don Swan. After Swan died in 1995, Baker created The Unknown Hinson Show for cable access. He also released multiple albums under the Unknown Hinson name, and was signed to Capitol Records Nashville in the early 2000’s.
A guitar teacher originally from Albemarle, North Carolina, Baker also played and toured in Billy Bob Thorton’s band The Boxmasters and others. He briefly retired the Unknown Hinson character in 2012 saying it was too expensive to tour, but then revitalized it in 2013 and began touring again. Then on June 3rd 3rd, 2020 he announced his retirement once more, saying, “My dear friends, Unfortunately I don’t think I’ll be playing anymore shows. My hands are absolutely shot with Osteoarthritis. I love you all and I am grateful to you for supporting me for 50 plus years. God bless you.”
Reverend Guitars, which had a signature guitar model from Unknown Hinson, dropped the model and removed him from their website after his Dolly Parton comments were made public.
As some have pointed out, both Stuart Baker’s Early Cuyler and Unknown Hinson characters include being a reactionary, closed-minded redneck as part of their comedic persona, making some wonder if Baker was just being sarcastic in his comments. Baker has said in past interviews that his Unknown Hinson character is an amalgam of old rednecks he known during his upbringing. The Early Cuyler character was an extension of Unknown Hinson, meaning Unknown Hinson was regularly credited for the character instead of Stuart Baker. However since the comments were made on Stuart Baker’s personal page and he stood by them, they are not believed to have been made “in character.”
The Squidbillies show has long had strong ties to alt-country music, with Billy Joe Shaver singing the theme song, and artists like Elizabeth Cook, Jason Isbell, the Drive-By Truckers, Rhett Miller of the Old 97’s, Gillian Welch, Todd Snider, and many others making voice appearances. “I’m very sad about every bit of this,” Elizabeth Cook reacted to the news. “I hope someday cancel culture and hate culture give way to one compassion culture. ‘Fighting for peace is like screaming for quiet’ – Todd Snider.”
As Saving Country Music has pointed out, despite widespread reporting that Dolly Parton came out in support of the Black Lives Matter movement specifically, this was the result of a mischaracterization from Billboard, and the editing of Dolly Parton’s statement where she said, “And of course Black lives matter. Do we think our little white asses are the only ones that matter? No! Everybody matters.”
Billboard edited the “Everybody matters” portion out of her statement, which can be confirmed through video of the interview. Billboard also stated that Dolly was, “… unequivocal in her support of protestors and the Black Lives Matter movement,” even though no such statement or stance by Dolly Parton was made on the Black Lives Matter movement itself. Parton simply stated that she believed that “Black lives matter” as a standalone statement. This mischaracterization sparked scores of subsequent articles on Dolly Parton supporting the Black Lives Matter movement, including the Consequences of Sound article Stuart Baker reacted to.
August 16, 2020 @ 6:37 pm
Very few people will understand what I’m about to say.
I don’t want to live in a world without reactionary rednecks.
August 17, 2020 @ 2:26 pm
That’s fine. But remember Newton’s Law: for every action, there is an equal reaction.
August 17, 2020 @ 5:50 pm
…”for every action, there is an equal reaction.”…
No there’s not. There’s unsolved crimes committed every day.
August 17, 2020 @ 6:22 pm
Come on now, at least he’s trying to be creative here, with his own little clever twist on the rest of the robot herd’s most memorized and repeated talking point (see below).
August 17, 2020 @ 6:30 pm
I like Dolly Parton’s early music. The new stuff? Not so much.
August 17, 2020 @ 6:45 pm
I like long walks on the beach. Come here often?
August 17, 2020 @ 7:52 pm
Um, actually,
“For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.”
Not sure that is the analogy you are wanting here.
And, who’s law is it that says everytime i have a piece of toast (maybe twice a year) it ALWAYS lands buttered – side, down?
Oh yeah,
that was Murphy.
November 11, 2021 @ 6:33 am
Equal but opposite reaction is the correct theorem.
August 20, 2020 @ 9:24 am
FREE SPEECH USED TO APPLY TO EVERY AMERICAN . NOW IT ONLY APPLIES TO THE ANTI`AMERICAN LEFT . BLM ARE RACIST SCUM WHO ARE PUPPETS OF THE DEEP STATE. I AGREE WITH STUART . POLITICAL CORRECTNESS IS A PATHETIC SCURGE AND A SIGN OF WEAKNESS . OUR FOUNDERS ARE ROLLING IN THEIR GRAVES.
August 20, 2020 @ 1:41 pm
Free speech only has to do with the government allowing or disallowing someone to speak. This really has nothing to do with a lack of free speech.
August 26, 2020 @ 1:01 pm
He was fired for a tweet . I would say it has everything to do with free speech
September 1, 2020 @ 10:34 pm
Time Warner is a private corporation, who is free to associate with whomever they choose. Stuart Baker can say whatever he wants without the government arresting him, but there’s nothing in the constitution that protects you from the ramifications of your speech. If they choose to sever ties, then that’s protected speech too.
August 29, 2020 @ 7:52 pm
First, Being a hateful human is not the same as free speech. If you’re going to use your rights to free speech you have an obligation to make sure what you’re saying has value. Calling someone a slut for not thinking like you is not valuable, it’s disrespectful. And if you’re going to use your right to free speech to be disrespectful then frankly you don’t deserve the right to speak freely cause nothing good comes out of it. Being a decent human being has nothing to do with politics. Being respectful is not being politically correct it’s simply being respectful which is correct in all aspects. So if you’re sick of being “politically correct” maybe check your attitude and your heart because there’s a good chance you just want to be disrespectful and don’t like it when your disrespect has bad consequences.
October 15, 2021 @ 5:36 pm
There is no such thing as a private corporation. Corporations are public. They receive government money. They are part of the government.
June 4, 2022 @ 2:55 pm
Uhm… that’s actually very wrong! A corporation is a group of people that the government recognizes as a single citizen. They do NOT automatically receive government money, nor are they in ANY way a part of the government. You can start a corporation in most states by yourself for $50 and filing your Articles of Incorporation, and it’s useful specifically for legal liability reasons.
CORPORATIONS ARE NOT PART OR RECEIVE FUNDS FROM THE GOVERNMENT.
Some companies receive grants and lobs from the government under special programs, like from the Department of Agriculture, which keeps food in your ignorant mouth.
Seriously this post is botty misinformation or pure ignorance at best.
Look up “corporation” on Wikipedia, for cripe’s sake!
November 12, 2021 @ 8:59 pm
Free speech goes both ways. Just cause you don’t like something someone says, it’s doesn’t mean they don’t deserve the American right to free speech. I’m sure we all see speech we don’t agree with or like what’s being said. It’s part of being an American. The right to say dumb shit if you feel like it. We just all hope it’s used in a good way. It’s not always the case.
November 22, 2021 @ 10:16 am
He has free speech, and chose to show how stupid and bigoted he is. He can continue to say stupid racist stuff as much as he wants. Other people have free speech too and can call him out on what he says.
It’s you who wants to censor people. You apparently have no idea what free speech means, its about being able to say what you want without fear of being sent to prison or having the govt censor you. Free speech doesnt mean that you dont have to live with the repercussions of what you say. For example you have the complete legal right to tell your boss he is a jerk, but he also has the right to fire you!
June 26, 2022 @ 3:22 pm
Too bad Dolly fell for the BLM vermin trap. We all know now it’s nothing but a terrorist organization. Agree with them or be harassed & cancelled. F__k BLM
August 16, 2020 @ 6:56 pm
Worth over $600 million so she’s not worried about what she says…https://www.celebritynetworth.com/…/dolly-parton-net…/ But it’s our white little asses who do make up the large majority of your fanbase and are largely responsible for making you that rich, because I don’t think you have that many black or brown fans, Dolly. They’ll turn on her eventually like Hollywood always does.
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August 16, 2020 @ 7:09 pm
1) Dolly Parton did not say that she supported the Black Lives Matter movement.
2) Dolly Parton should not stand for what she believes in because there’s more money to be made from white people?
August 16, 2020 @ 8:15 pm
I beg to differ, She’s like everybody else in show business today, she’s become a virtue signaler, and it’s a damn shame she had to jump on that bandwagon because I thought better of her before this. She changed the name of “Dixie Stampede” on her theater because she said herself it’s a business decision, and God forbid she offend that small minority of people who have probably never bought her records, or even heard of her who think “Dixie” is an offensive term. 10 years ago, or even 5 years ago nobody would’ve known or even cared about the name “Dixie” and what it stood for, I doubt that they even bothered to find out what it actually stands for, or what it means. She’s caving just like “Lady Antebellum and The Dixie Chicks and NASCAR driver Bubba Wallace. She caved to the “WOKE” show business/sports narrative that’s now permeating through society like the foul stench that it is, “Our little white asses aren’t the only ones that matter?” Well, we DO matter just as much as any black or brown person and for her to say otherwise is wrong, She doesn’t have to come out and openly support BLM, because as far as I’m concerned, she implied it, and because she, like everybody else, is afraid of the
Hollywood backlash when she should be more concerned about her fans.
She doesn’t want to offend anybody? Little does she know though she’s already offended and alienated a huge portion of her fanbase because whether she knows it or not, she’s thrown her fanbase under the bus, by her virtue signaling she says we shouldn’t judge people well, she just passed judgment on a lot of her fans because they’re white and southern. She needs to think about that.
August 16, 2020 @ 10:11 pm
“…she just passed judgement on a lot of her fans because they are white and southern.”
There’s a couple of ways to read this, and I can’t figure out which one is more ridiculous.
August 17, 2020 @ 7:00 am
It’s actually worse than ridiculous. This person is EQUATING “white & Southern” with RACIST.
August 17, 2020 @ 3:38 am
Chris, where did she say that white people don’t matter as much? Her exact words were “Our little white asses aren’t the only ones that matter”. Aren’t the only ones. It is a big leap to matter less.
August 17, 2020 @ 5:39 am
“Our little white asses aren’t the only ones that matter?” Well, we DO matter just as much as any black or brown person and for her to say otherwise is wrong,
Where did she say that your whiny white ass doesn’t matter? She specifically said white people aren’t the only ones that matter, which means she is saying that white people do matter, and as Trig pointed out, she said everyone matters in the same interview. I can’t believe all the whiny white people that need to have attention and freak out when they hear black lives matter. There is systemic racism in this country still and it’s about time it’s addressed. Stop whining and do your part to level out the playing field for all Americans.
August 17, 2020 @ 5:46 am
I say all this as a huge Unknown Hinson fan as well. In my opinion, this should be a learning opportunity for Stuart and not a career ender.
I’ve built a few cigar box guitars and have one hanging up in my office with the Pine Box Boys signatures across the bottom and Unknown Hinson’s signature straight across the top. I’m certainly not taking that down. I do wonder if I’ll have any co-workers that will recognize that name moving forward though when they look at it.
August 17, 2020 @ 4:51 pm
I ask you to closely look at your own first statement: “‘Our little white asses aren’t the only ones that matter?’ Well, we DO matter just as much as any black or brown person and for her to say otherwise is wrong”.
Why do you hear her say “our little white asses aren’t the only ones that matter’ as her saying “white people matter less than black or brown people”?
Isn’t she saying the opposite? Isn’t she saying “white people are the only people that matter”? Isn’t she saying black and brown people matter just as much as white people?
August 17, 2020 @ 5:45 am
It is amazing the lengths racists will go to to defend their racism.
August 19, 2020 @ 4:47 am
*wacists
August 17, 2020 @ 6:53 am
It’s always been giggle-inducing to me, when rightwing suckers use the words, “virtue signaling,” as an insult. It’s like their use of “snowflake,” they’re obviously gaslighting, because NOBODY virtue-signals like an AM-radio talkshow fan. From their flag pins, to their Chinese-made red hats, to their need to display the bumper-stickers and yard-signs, Trumpism has cashed in on their need to show you they “outrank” you. Nobody ever worked for a living, but the guy bitching about the “libtarts.” Nobody ever came from less, or made better decisions, or tried as hard, or loved their country more. Nobody had better parenting, or ran their own business, or dealt with adversity. Modern talkshow conservatism (now known as Trumpism, for the obvious reasons) is literally BASED on this rightwing feeling of entitlement, the movement is simply a notion of entitlement to authority and misguided empowerment, without the responsibility authority carries. It’s literally that simple. Nobody, but NOBODY struts their sense of “rank” more or better than the average MAGA-hat. MAGA itself infers that the country does not meet their “high standards” for greatness. The whole embarrassing chapter is already circling the toilet bowl, and Trumpism has been dead and cold for months, hence these angst-filled lashes against the public opinion that has dis-included them. Baker has sadly outlived his usefulness. The one note he could perform was bound to cross a line into annoying eventually, as all single-note performances do. Stu Baker will mostly be remembered for voicing a cartoon. Dolly Parton will remain a legend for a hundred years to come. There aren’t many in the Trump-cult who will say that.
August 17, 2020 @ 8:01 am
Let’s please not have this veer into a Trump discussion. This is a contentious enough topic itself. Let’s try to at least keep it tied to Stuart Baker and the topic at hand. Thanks!
August 17, 2020 @ 10:22 am
Hey Johnny,
Let’s hear you talk facts about the protestors that kicked a man unconscious in Portland last night.
Not bullshit Johnny.
Let’s hear you talk facts
August 17, 2020 @ 11:54 am
I am just curious: what, if any, country artists do you listen to? Does taylor swift qualify as country again?
August 17, 2020 @ 7:05 am
Ooooh, the varmint is iscirde and a hurtin’ so must lash out and make vandal of democracy by hating Dolky Parton and voting for trump.
August 7, 2021 @ 8:09 pm
First of all, can we stop calling it the BLM movement? She doesn’t support the BLM Organization. The “nonprofit” that created enough non-profit to afford several mansions for its founders. They took money gave some to the dems and pocketed the rest. What have they done to better the lives of black people? When they have everyone chanting the name of the dead, it is part of their religion. Watch the interviews with the founders. It’s an African religion which believes saying someone’s name repeatedly conjures their spirits up to communicate with. They said quote, BLM is more of a spiritual movement than a political one.
Anyways, I’ve learned rarely are things black and white so to speak. Almost always reason is found in the hey grey areas, the least popular. Yes the company he worked for is private and can fire anyone for any reason. But Stuarts comments were posted to his personal FB not the companies. So then the slippery slope comes in. Where does it end? And who decides what’s considered non offensive? Do you think it would be fare if the company you worked at found out you once told a racist joke at a family gathering so they fire you and make sure you never get work in that industry again? The pile keeps getting bigger too. People change, and everyone has said or done stupid shit at some point. I bet the guys who fired Stuart have in their life posted something that offended someone.
You said it’s not free speech rather its about being respectful. What happens when they add a new gender? Can they go back and say, hey you didn’t acknowledge this gender 5 years ago you’re fired. And come on, how is it hateful that someone might not be able to suddenly agree that there are more than two genders? Why is it hateful if someone can’t make themselves admit that they are born a racist and must pay the price? The truth constantly changes. You can’t ruin people’s lives for believing something different especially when that truth might change. How much of Truth is actual truth? We don’t know, let’s just fricken get along knowing that for every stupid hateful action done by certain crummy individuals, there will be by the laws of physics an equal and opposite reaction. We don’t get away with shit when we do bad things or hurt people. It comes back so just let the universe work how it’s always worked because things have a tendancy to get better man. Only a few colonies owned black slaves. The owners believed slaves were not equal to a full human. Well there were a lot more white guys who held a different truth which was that all men are created equal. Those guys, Republicans actually, laid down their lives because they knew it was absolute truth. Civil rights happened. It’s way better now than it was 50 100 years ago. So why the fighting? You believe your fighting hate when your energy is derived from that very thing. Ok sorry for the long post, i have so many thoughts on it and find it hard to not go off in all different directions.
I just miss life as it was 10 years ago. Don’t you?
August 17, 2020 @ 7:51 am
Dolly changed the name of Dixie Stampede in 2018, not in relation to current protests.
August 16, 2020 @ 7:46 pm
I think Dolly probably deserves the credit for making herself rich, through her abundance of talent, entrepreneurial skills, good judgement, personality and hard ass fuckin work her whole entire life. Being that she’s sold more albums than almost any other country star and is likely one of, if not, the most internationally recognized living country star in the world, I’m sure she has a pretty diverse fan base.
August 16, 2020 @ 10:00 pm
She has thanks to the southern country music fans who helped to get her started, no doubt she has the talent and all the things you mentioned, but her original fans going all the way back to the Porter Waggoner days have helped to make her the international megastar she is today.
August 16, 2020 @ 11:09 pm
Well, if she hadn’t learned to sing, wrote great songs, honed her craft, made good albums amd put on great performances there wouldn’t have been anything for fans to buy. She brought something to the table, offered it up well and then played her cards right for decades to build her empire. They didnt “make her rich” anymore than she made herself rich. I would say she put more work into that than fans did buying a record or going to Dollywood one time on vacation. Point is, she’s more than given the world their money’s worth over the years and doesn’t owe anything to anyone, in the way of having to keep her mouth shut, lest she be seen as disagreeable.
August 16, 2020 @ 11:18 pm
If it wasn’t for the fan who spent their money to buy her stuff she wouldn’t be where she is it doesn’t matter how talented they are, if no one wants what they have they go nowhere
August 16, 2020 @ 11:34 pm
It’s the fans who spent their money to buy her stuff if they didn’t want it she wouldn’t be here, it doesn’t matter how talented you are. And I’ll say this grant it, Stuart Baker, the guy from “Squidbillies” should not have said what he did either, but he’s not completely wrong in what he said just in the way he said it. Regardless, he’s entitled to his opinion as I am, and as she is, why was he canceled out? Sounds like a double standard to me. if she truly had those beliefs, that ALL lives matter, then why change anything? (Referring to Dixie Stampede), or even respond to Billboard’s questioning of the matter, or call them out when they misquoted her? I’ll gladly apologize when I see proof of that, not that anyone here cares, but I will anyway.
August 17, 2020 @ 7:03 am
If the fans are who decides what Dolly Parton can say or do, then the fans could decide Stu Baker’s fate, as well. Dolly obviously has a LOT more fans than Baker. Using your own yardstick, Dolly comes out about twenty miles ahead of Unknown Hinson, and always will. You can ask literally anyone on any street (or dirt road, for that matter) who Dolly Parton is, and who Stuart Baker is, and even BLM members know Dolly’s work.
Your willingness to agree with the bigoted stuff doesn’t lend you credibility or authority. You don’t speak for the larger audience, and that audience has made its choice. Saying things you want to hear doesn’t make someone correct, factually or morally.
Baker likely just ended the best part of his career. My guess is he was under the influence when he posted that garbage, but that doesn’t matter, it’s no excuse. The times’ they are a-changin’, and some things have already changed, rightwing permission not necessary.
August 17, 2020 @ 10:34 am
Yeah, us Northern fans couldn’t stand her. LOL
August 18, 2020 @ 3:06 pm
racism isn’t a difference of opinion. trying to bitch about cancel culture when you are just dead wrong is a deflection just like telling kaepernik his kneeling was about troops to deflect his protest being about unarmed black people getting shot by law enforcement. you don’t get to tell other people what they meant to change the conversation azhat
August 7, 2021 @ 8:34 pm
At least for me, the part that made my eyebrow twitch was at the end when he said, have fun neglecting your race, culture and heritage? That was a bit much. But it was done on his time and fb. Doesn’t mean it was “white power” talk but clearly people are going to assume that.
Everyone is missing the true villian here anyways IMO. It’s the damn FAKE NEWS!!!! Why the hell are they not losing their damn jobs for making up a total bullshit story?
How many people will even see that part, in this article you had to read until the end almost to get that little nugget. They fucking lied! What other conclusion can be made other than the media is doing it on purpose? They want a civil war.
Damn, so far it seems to be working…
August 17, 2020 @ 8:34 am
For anyone who thinks that Black people don’t listen to country music, there’s a trending Twitter thread right now of Black people naming their favorite country songs. (Chris Stapleton’s Tennessee Whiskey and Carrie Underwood’s Before He Cheats were the clear winners).
The punchline is there are thousands of responses. Try not to stereotype country fans ok? There are lots of progressively minded city folks like me who love country music, even more so now when we have stars who agree with us about important issues like Black Lives Matter.
August 19, 2020 @ 11:03 am
So a Muscle Shoals sounding cover and a pop star song were the winners? So they don’t really like country music.
Excuse while I scoff and listen to my Charley Pride albums.
August 19, 2020 @ 11:56 am
Do you love dogs? Cause that’s the only topic I can think of where we might possibly agree on sonething….
August 19, 2020 @ 12:13 pm
I adore dogs. Every sane person does.
I wouldn’t be shocked if we agree on a lot more topics.
August 7, 2021 @ 8:36 pm
Exactly what i was thinking. But We are all guilty of generalizing and stereotyping. We just aren’t all willing to admit it.
August 17, 2020 @ 2:28 pm
Dolly has been in Show Biz for over 50 years. But you just keep waiting there like the precious little feller you are for “Hollywood” to “turn on her.” We’ll hold your beer 😉
August 17, 2020 @ 4:30 pm
Dolly wrote one of Whitney Houston’s biggest hits– “I Will Always Love You”. So while Dolly’s music may not have had much crossover fandom, Dolly made quite a lot of money through Whitney’s smash hit cover. And Black fans who are knowledgeable are aware of who wrote the song.
June 4, 2022 @ 2:59 pm
Gurl!! Dolly has a huge GAY fanbase, and they can single handedly keep her comfortable for life, and they consist of every race!
August 16, 2020 @ 7:09 pm
Some of the funniest songs in the genre are his. And his liquid chicken ad was so good along with his “…chart-topping hits” (I don’t don’t remember how many he claimed to have)! Clever songwriting that makes his lack of awareness regarding the Dolly comments more surprising. I’ll still listen to him though if I can find his stuff.
August 16, 2020 @ 7:58 pm
I get it, this time, I guess? For me there’s no 100% right answer on this. I’m weary of where this is going, and part of me understands that there is a line…and that he crossed it. I don’t necessarily want it where people could say whatever crazy shit they want without any consequences, but I’m also not comfortable with everyone conforming either…where a condition of employment is having the “right” things to say. I guess I’m a bit nostalgic for the old liberal belief of valuing dissent and challenging people with open debate, not forcing them into submission. Both ways of looking at this, have both positive and negative consequences.
August 16, 2020 @ 8:15 pm
I think there is a right answer. If you cut out all the political BS and just look at what he said about Dolly as though it was any mundane disagreement it’s clear that he’s a complete shithead. I don’t think anyone would be squimish about him getting canned if he acted that way over any disagreement but politics.
That is the problem. Dissent is important but being an asshole is not.
August 16, 2020 @ 8:36 pm
So dissent is “important” to you, but only if it’s the kind of dissent that you agree with, and the person isn’t being an asshole?
August 16, 2020 @ 9:21 pm
I mean, being punished for being an asshole is kind of an incredibly long-standing tradition among the human race.
Quoth a forum moderator I used to know: the asshole race is always being discriminated against, I’m afraid.
August 16, 2020 @ 9:32 pm
I mean, many things have a long-standing tradition among the human race. Slavery, war, rape…Not a very convincing argument.
August 16, 2020 @ 9:34 pm
Well I’m glad we finally have someone here who is ready to stand up for the rights of the most eternally oppressed group in human history: the assholes. For too long have people had to put up with being fired, cursed at, unfriended and occasionally even punched in the face just for being massive wankers. It is time for that to change. Come on, everyone, let’s have an Asshole March on Washington! Stand up for the right of assholes everywhere! We shall overcome!
August 16, 2020 @ 9:44 pm
Cute. Also not a good argument though.
August 17, 2020 @ 4:39 am
No, you misunderstood the point. “Agree” has nothing to do with it. it’s about manners.
August 17, 2020 @ 8:05 am
Right…he’s an asshole, per my comment. Seems I didn’t misunderstand. So it’s not what he said, and it’s not the “politics,” it’s the manners? So now we’re the manner police? These’s plenty of pop and hip hop stars that many would perceive to have bad “manners.’ Are we going after them next, Mr. Pearl Clutcher General?
August 17, 2020 @ 8:27 am
If you understood you wouldn’t not have said that it was about whether or not I agreed with the “dissent.”
I don’t see why you bring up hip hop but I doubt it would make much difference. If somebody wants a tv show they probably are going to have to be more careful. I doubt that Ice-T could go on a Twitter tirade like this and keep his job on Law and Order.
August 17, 2020 @ 8:53 am
Funny you mention Ice – T of all people. Here’s the official description of the porn movie “Ice – T’s Pimpim 101”
“ Giving you fascinating insight into the life of a pimp, legendary rap star Ice-T presents the full lowdown on how to live the life. And, he should know because he was a real-life pimp at one point in his life! Ice breaks down the ho’s every pimp will encounter into 5 different group…..These sluts are downright nasty!”
I’m not saying he shouldn’t be on Law and Order…more power to him, I like the guy. But I’m curious if the Pearl Clutcher General approves of this?
August 17, 2020 @ 10:52 am
Ice-T gets away with saying a lot of things with no blow back towards his career. Especially about the police. That whole Body Count Cop Killer outrage didn’t hurt him a bit. I actually think he has some kind of complex because he’s very light-skinned that he goes out of his way to have to prove to himself that he is black. He’s got a hang-up with that. He used to rap about free speech abut now he’s kind of become the type of person he rapped about in that song.
I still like some of his late 80’s and early 90’s music but the guy is not really the cool guy I thought he was back then now looking backward. I used to think he was a little more objective but the tds hit him hard.
it’s funny too how some other rapper basically stole his woman from him about 10 years ago and threw it in his face. The tough guy persona only went so far. Which often is the case when people broadcast that type of thing about themselves.
August 17, 2020 @ 10:58 am
What’s with this “Pearl Clutcher General” shtick? Honestly it’s so dumb and disconnected from anything I’ve said that I wonder if you are capable of understanding anything.
This is really very simple. “Dissent” generally refers to unpopular opinions of a political nature. Manners refer to how well you treat individual people. Generally the later causes people more headaches than the former but it gets most difficult when it’s somewhere in between and somebody expresses a stupid opinion about other kinds of people to somebody who takes it personally.
This case, however, was clean cut. If he had just said he didn’t agree with Dolly and that she should remember who her friends and supporters were. people would have grumbled but it would have passed by. But the nasty name calling with “slut” and “bimbo” meant that he was good and fucked.
Ice-T making a movie you don’t like has nothing to do with that. I don’t give a damn that he did and I don’t care about any of what Baker did with his now defunct career either.
August 17, 2020 @ 11:11 am
Weird how you’re backing away from the Ice – T analogy that you yourself introduced. Interesting that a guy making a porn movie glorifying ‘pimps,” notorious for violence against and the exploitation of women (or ‘hos’ and “sluts” according to his movie), is something you don’t care about, but this guys tweet deserves him losing HIS job. I think neither of them should lose their jobs. I’m consistent.
The name I gave you is a famous Kurt Vonnegut character reference, modified to help you in your crusade against bad manners. You’re welcome.
August 17, 2020 @ 11:18 am
I didn’t back away from anything. You didn’t understand it.
I don’t get what’s so confusing to you here but that’s your problem.
So never mind.
August 17, 2020 @ 10:38 am
John’s point is very explicitly that Baker isn’t being punished for disagreeing with Dolly.
He’s being punished for being a hateful asshole.
If he had disagreed with Dolly without being a hateful asshole, there would be no meaningful consequences other than “Internet Outrage.”
August 17, 2020 @ 10:57 am
People might find your comments hateful, and you’ve already called yourself an asshole…but if anyone ever suggests having you fired from your job, I’ll defend you too Lester.
August 17, 2020 @ 11:03 am
If I were a public figure and posted one of my insane, c-bomb filled rants under my own name, on a public forum, harming the image of my employer, and contradicting my employers values…and then I doubled down on it, rather than apologizing and taking responsibility for my actions…
I would absolutely be fired, and I would deserve it.
Actions have consequences.
August 17, 2020 @ 11:19 am
BTW I get the whole ‘actions have consequences” argument. It’s not something I don’t get. Implicit to that argument is that the consequences aren’t fixed. We COULD, as a culture and society take a liberal view of speech and say that the consequences of speech should never be loss of employment. We decide what the consequences are. Unlike in physics, it’s not a fixed law. So saying “actions have consequences” isn’t an end to a conversation…it’s just the beginning. But I’m tired of this. I know my opinion is in the minority. I’ll still be there for you Lester, regardless.
August 17, 2020 @ 10:07 am
The negative spurs violence, which is better? The answer is simple, that which suggests no violence. I’m not a fan of removing all the statues fo the southern generals, because we must remember and not forget how the anguish, the years of pain, the inequalities, and historical facts were twisted toward and against minorities not contributing to society. Medical, production, aerial combat, space travel (NASA), and musical aspects of the minority have made positive changes, that were ignored, until history was corrected. And how about the tags given to minorities? African American, Japanese American, etc. Remove the tags and use the description, “American.” Think for a moment about those whites that were born in one of the countries within Africa. For example, Charlize Theron, an American, and South African, was born in Benoni, South Africa, and speaks three languages fluently. Elon Musk, an American was born in Pretoria, South Africa, and look at the contributions he has made.
August 16, 2020 @ 8:17 pm
Hes just as free today to say stupid shit as he was yesterday and the day before. And Reverend guitars, Cartoon Network, and everyone else who’s names are very publicly tied to Baker’s are free to say that they no longer want to be associated with him. So much freedom for everyone involved
August 16, 2020 @ 8:46 pm
Y’all act like he raped a baby! Where’s the man’s free speech?!
August 16, 2020 @ 9:22 pm
It ain’t like they sent the man to prison. Employers should not be forced to continue employing people whose public statements reflect poorly on them.
August 17, 2020 @ 7:10 am
Hmmm, your right. But let’s take this to a logical conclusion. I should be allowed to not employ darkies at my private business if I see fit. As the owner of a private business I should also be allowed not to serve them either.
Protections for me but not for thee, huh?
August 17, 2020 @ 9:05 am
If you would run a small business then you would realise that you can do that.
You can’t exactly refuse service but you can setup your business so you get your preferred clientele.
Personally I try to only hire employees that I like as friends and only do work for people who seem nice.
And yeah, if anyone said anything against Dolly, he/she wouldn’t be coming back tomorrow.
August 17, 2020 @ 9:21 am
There’s not civils right’s act version for “assholes who say dumb shit and get fired accordingly”
August 17, 2020 @ 11:44 am
It’s illegal to fire people for racial attributes under the Clvi Rights act of 1964. You would also open yourself or the company you work for up to a nasty lawsuit by using words like “darkies.” So if you are working for somebody else you are most certainly going to get fired for doing it or they will come to very much regret your continued presence.
I suppose you can try to pass a law making it illegal to fire somebody for being a loud mouthed bigot as well but it’s not particularly logical and probably would never make it into law.
August 17, 2020 @ 10:18 am
Free speech and hate speech are protected as far as being able to say what you want, but that does not protect you against against being fired, judged, or removed from mainstream society. Mainstream is who judges your opinions. If you live in America you live by American rules, society rules. Society has changed, and as hard as some people in government try to modify that truth they will fail. The sad part of that attempt for the hate groups to push for society to go back to living in the dark ages will affect children and the innocents who have nothing to do with hate.
August 16, 2020 @ 9:49 pm
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from the consequences of your speech.
Duh.
August 17, 2020 @ 8:20 am
yeah, clearly the man did say it. we read it. how people don’t understand this blows my mind every time.
August 17, 2020 @ 7:03 am
The same place his employer’s rights are.
August 17, 2020 @ 10:36 am
He’s free to say whatever he wants. Nothing has changed.
August 16, 2020 @ 9:38 pm
Well I just wont watch that show anymore. He was what made it funny.. Fuck em!!
August 17, 2020 @ 10:19 am
Good one!!!
August 16, 2020 @ 9:50 pm
Well guess that’s all folks….he was the show….get woke go broke
August 16, 2020 @ 10:08 pm
One more time for the people in the back: freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences of free speech.
August 16, 2020 @ 10:30 pm
“freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences of free speech” does not mean I can’t use my freedom of speech to defend freedom of speech without consequences.
Look how clever we think we are. And mine’s not even a talking point I lifted from someone else!
August 16, 2020 @ 10:58 pm
Here’s the thing, Jake: it costs you nothing to remain quiet. No one put a gun to Stuart Baker’s head and made him call Dolly a slut and a bimbo. He chose to do that, and now he’s suffering the consequences. That’s how things work. What is it that these modern dunderheaded conservatives love to say, “play stupid games, win stupid prizes”? And I thought y’all were all about accountability and personal responsibility. Clearly not. Try to get some sort of coherent ideology and then maybe people would take you seriously.
August 17, 2020 @ 7:12 am
Ok you Ray Stevens wannabe. I should be allowed to turn away customers from my store who wear BLM clothing, “freedom from consequences” sure, unless your a member of a protected race.
Allow everyone to take your freedom of business stuff to the logical end and you’ll find how unconstitutional the Civil Rights act was. If Adult Swim can fire whoever for whatever they say, I ought to be able to exclude minorities from my shop.
August 17, 2020 @ 8:31 am
Personally, I hope you don’t actually want to do either of those things, and that you’re just making an argument about the hypocrisy.
August 17, 2020 @ 9:46 am
“If Adult Swim can fire whoever for whatever they say, I ought to be able to exclude minorities from my shop.”
Absolute silliness. Adult Swim can’t fire whomever they want if it violates Constitutionally protected rights, same applies to you or anyone else. …That’s the logical conclusion, though you’re not logical enough to grasp it.
Talking out of your ass without concern of being fired or facing public backlash isn’t a constitutionally protected right.
Not hiring or serving “darkies” (to use your odious phrasing from an earlier comment) DOES violate constitutionally protected rights.
You don’t like Constitutional rights? Tough luck.
August 17, 2020 @ 10:27 am
“freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.
Free speech” means using my freedom of speech to defend freedom of speech IS NOT WITHOUT consequences.
Breaking this down results in the same thing. Consequences is the end result from using free speech, consequences take different levels and degrees. So, why did this statement create such a mess.
August 18, 2020 @ 9:01 am
Dirk Ermen,
There’s a difference between speech and race. One can be changed and the other can’t. You can throw a loud mouth asshole restaurant, because that person chose to be an asshole. You can’t throw a black person out of a restaurant for being black, because they have no choice in the matter…and who has Michael Jackson money to make themselves white?
August 17, 2020 @ 7:56 am
Who is y’all? I’m not a conservative and I don’t agree with what this guy said at all. It’s beyond dumb. It’s a LIBERALvalue to defend the speech of people you don’t agree with. How shocking though, that you would make a false assumption and a whataboutist argument like “I thought conservatives believed in personal responsibility.” It’s telling that most of the responses to what I’ve said are drone-like, poorly constructed, talking point “arguments.” Weak stuff.
Keep sniffing out those hypocritical conservatives though. You seem to have a real nose for it.
August 17, 2020 @ 9:36 am
“It’s a LIBERAL value to defend the speech of people you don’t agree with” …and who is suggesting he doesn’t have that right?
That’s the part you’re not getting: He has his free speech, that’s not in question, i.e. the government is not going to send him to jail for insulting Dolly Parton.
The 1st Amendment prohibits the Government from restricting your right to speak freely. It doesn’t protect you from getting fired by your employer or facing public backlash if you do so.
August 17, 2020 @ 10:53 am
Show me where I talked government enforcement. Or the 1st amendment. In fact I never even called it a ‘right.’ Why put words in my mouth? No need to answer, it was rhetorical…straw man arguments reveal everything.
I’m speaking philosophically about, what I believe should and should not happen to someone who says something I don’t agree with.
I believe that we, as a culture, should not go after people’s jobs…even if we disagree with them. As much as I disagree with what this guy said, I MORE disagree with living in a sanitized herd of obedient sheep. ???? ???? ???? ????
You have the “right” to feel otherwise…but if you’re going to criticize me for ‘not getting it,” at least do a little better than that.
August 16, 2020 @ 11:46 pm
Well it is definitely becoming a culture of one thought and one mindset where anyone out of the EXACT autocratic brain washing. That is a direct result of firing anyone who thinks differently, as it also forces different minded people to stay quiet put of fear. Really, NOBODY thought a man who performs as a several hundred year old vampire was eccentric? REALLY?
Call me crazy but I don’t see anything racist with his statement. It is a reaction to the modern, mostly white, liberals that hate America and all it stands for. They are self hating white people essentially, which he states. I thought it was wrong to hate an entire race, even your own?
I don’t even mean to make this political, I just find it absurd that a man makes a PG-13 statement and gets fired from the show where he is really the only character worth watching, yet Hollywood doesn’t excommunicate you for a DUI? Domestic violence? Pedophilia?
August 17, 2020 @ 2:12 am
Calling someone “freak titted, a “slut,” and a “bimbo” is fine with you? I suppose pussy grabbing and paying to f porn stars is fine with you too. Quite a specimen you are, Travis.
August 17, 2020 @ 8:07 am
It was a disgusting and woman-hating diatribe. Calling a woman a “slut” for speaking her mind, or any reason in general, is unacceptable. If calling a 74 year old national treasure, humanitarian, and wife of 50+ years one, plus “Bimbo” and “freak titted” doesn’t strike a chord, you might be a misogynist too. This is violent language meant to devalue and dehumanize women.
August 17, 2020 @ 9:56 am
You missed the entire, and I mean ENTIIIIRRRREEEE point. You must be a liberal because that is the MO. Freedom of speech is for all speech, not just what you find acceptable. The entertainment industry thinks like you, they only like hearing what they want to. So yes, I find it okay that he called her whatever because that is HIS opinion. Personal opinions don’t matter because those are HIS words, not yours. He lost his job, which I also don’t agree with because as I mentioned before saying a few naughty words is infinitesimal compared to the actual and real word damage that has been done by the industry, but the modern day social media witch hunt is ridiculous. You don’t like what he said, fine, don’t support him in any way. But nobody CARES you don’t like what he said, and that’s the problem with these cases, a bunch of attention seekers need to jump on board for attention and virtue.
I support his free speech and his ability to share his OPINION no matter how caustic. Need I remind you just over the weekend, thousands or more people got a hashtag trending wishing the OTHER Trump died? Save your fake morality.
August 17, 2020 @ 10:37 am
Double for me. We already have someone speaking for you Travis. They are in the White House. We don’t need more like you attempting to keep people pushed down, prevented them from raising up and becoming much more. It is hard enough for those who are white, and may have that as a plus. Why compound the inadequacies? I wonder, does attacking those who are of different color a threat to your way of life keep you warm at night? Be the one who wants change for the those living in America, the home of the Free.
August 17, 2020 @ 2:50 pm
There’s plenty more to pick from. Here’s a smattering of his other “chart toppers,” which runs the full gamut from sexism to racism. Dude’s apparently a white nationalist. I don’t think a “learning moment” is going to have much impact for ol’ Stu.
“Yeah leave. Leave Liberals! Unfriend me, please. Because I don’t want you UN-AMERICANS around! Have fun becoming an Eloi or something without a thought of your own where you bow down to the ALL-KNOWING-MINORITY! HAVE FUN forsaking your own race, culture and heritage. Have a nice time!”
“Thank you, you flaming hater of White people bigot. I hope you realize you were named after Slave Owners… Good luck with your passion for anything about White History, dumbass!”
“Dolly is on her knees sucking one. “
“On her knees, like everybody else. Surrendering her race and culture like everyone else for popularity gain.”
“If you’re white, wake up!”
“And you look like your on your knees surrendering your race.”
August 17, 2020 @ 3:30 pm
So how is this different or worse than all the liberals who have unfriended family members for voting trump, gotten people cancelled because they didn’t bend the knee or were wearing an ‘offensive’ T shirt? The people who had #wrongtrump trending on Twitter? You always act like you are morally superior, but you even lack the basic decency to not say anything obnoxious about the President’s brother that just died.
Stuart Baker’s remarks were in very poor form. I think the guy was under the influence. Still, actions have consequences.
I think Billboard’s actions were way more reprehensible. They intentionally left out things to fit their own purpose.
August 17, 2020 @ 2:17 am
Sometimes people should use their right to remain silent
August 17, 2020 @ 4:38 am
The Billboard version of the Dolly Parton interview made the headlines in Europe too.
After reading the “BLM” part of her interview (Billboard version) my first thought was…you’re in trouble honey.
Dolly lost me with “Do we think our little white asses are the only ones that matter?”.
Who is “we”? I never thought that my little white ass is better than a little black ass…but i don’t think a black ass is better than a white ass too.
Will i never ever listen to a Dolly Parton song again? You can bet your little white, black, yellow, red, pink, hairy ass…i love me some Dolly.
The Stuart Baker guy is a fool & it is right to teach him a lesson or two. You can disagree with Dolly, the Pope, the Dalai Lama, me or Trigger…but not in the way he did…degrading & poisoning.
Billboard should crash & burn. Billboard should be cancelled…the Dolly interview…the charts manipu…oops…the creative way to manage the charts…the overall quality.
August 17, 2020 @ 6:52 am
Nobody EVER said a black ass is better than a white ass you idiot.
August 17, 2020 @ 10:24 am
Looks like i triggered a snowflake.
August 18, 2020 @ 4:54 pm
Only yourself.
August 17, 2020 @ 6:08 am
I hope he doesn’t apologize.
August 17, 2020 @ 8:21 am
why?
August 17, 2020 @ 8:42 am
He already did
September 23, 2021 @ 5:51 pm
Very disappointing.
August 17, 2020 @ 6:14 am
Adults(?) Arguing about a *cartoon* for adults voice over character(?) Really? Watch the sleazy characters (sluts all) in the Districts of Criminals around the Country for childish behavior that don’t need voiced over. While we’re at it; read click bait articles by *prominent* MSM sluts who wish they were celebrity status and had the following of a Dolly- or the voice over character for that matter, which, BTW, I never heard of until reading the first article about this latest click bait drama/controversy.
Good god almighty- SMH
August 17, 2020 @ 6:40 am
First off, I love Stuart Baker and recognize him accurately as one of the most original, talented, and funny artists of our time. In the case of Unknown Hinson especially, reverberating a higher standard of wittiness and originality, not to mention a great live show and great songwriting and musicianship.
Stuart is a national treasure, regardless if he never joined the upper echelons of the mainstream, though he really should be. So what if he had an impulsive moment, we all do. The point in specific, which is true, the post was trying to make was that Dolly Parton responded to the subject in a manner which lends credit to the communist group BLM, shrugging a serious thing in a way that promotes self deprivation of a culture that founded this country and other things BLM promotes with their Millions and millions of dollars funding from people who want promote hate against whites and demonize their culture. And in addition their supporters who is unknowingly supporting the destruction of our country from within that is happening. BLM is a group largely against whites and America as it was founded, and advocacy group for blacks to attack white culture.
But**.. I wanted to ask the Triggerman how Stuart was disparaging against minorities as put in this article? .. and which he was demonized for?
August 17, 2020 @ 8:43 am
Look, I’m not really taking an opinion on this matter, at least not at this point. I’m just reporting the story. I’m like Elizabeth Cook, I see this as a tragedy for all parties, and that’s why I included her quote in the article, especially when you consider that Stuart was reacting to a headline that wasn’t even true. There’s probably a deeper story on what’s going on with Stuart Baker personally that needs to be told as well. I’m not apologizing for what he said whatsoever, but there are a lot of moving parts to this story, and so I am just reporting the facts at this point.
But his comments, “without a thought of your own where you bow down to the ALL-KNOWING-MINORITY! HAVE FUN forsaking your own race, culture, and heritage,” can be and were taken as racially insensitive, and so that’s why I included that verbiage explaining why there was a backlash against his comments.
August 17, 2020 @ 10:43 am
Can you think of a reason black people might not be thrilled about America as it was founded?
We all may have “impulsive moments”, but even as a non celebrity I’ve never been tempted to publicly go on a racist diatribe or call someone a bimbo and a slut. And if I did I imagine I’d be fired. That’s more or less the way things are supposed to work.
This isn’t something you can sit on the fence about. If you aren’t condemning what he said you’re condoning it.
August 17, 2020 @ 11:25 am
I’m honestly a bit perplexed by all the bellyaching about this. Granted I don’t watch TV and know nothing about this guy other than he stepped deep in shit here. But generally you can’t just go off and call a woman a “bimbo” and “slut” on Twitter and keep your TV gig. That kind of thing makes advertisers nervous.
That he went on about race traitors and whatnot was just icing on the cake. The dude had a real meltdown here.
August 17, 2020 @ 6:46 am
Let’s not forget the other comments he made on the same thread that came down to all this. Homophobic slurs at his own fans etc. Sure, he can say what he wishes. I’ve been a fan for a long time. But, you start being rude and what not to your own fans. You do this kind of thing to your self.
August 17, 2020 @ 7:40 am
All this story says to me is a lot of people in the country do not have it truly bad yet. If this is their issue of the day amidst all that going on. I’m not saying their all sitting in a mansion writings a song about their other mansion. But seriously we have much bigger issues canceling a voice actor right now IMO.
August 17, 2020 @ 8:06 am
So a bunch of people are mad at Dolly because they think she’s not racist? Uh, ok.
August 17, 2020 @ 9:55 am
They are mad at Dolly because she, hopefully ignorantly, threw her support behind a violent, Marxist organization that has been causing relentless destruction around the country over a fentanyl addict.
August 17, 2020 @ 3:43 pm
If you get a chance, go see the police bodycam footage now that it has been leaked. One has to wonder why so many innocent people (both black and white) have died in the anarchy since, for a non-racist (the 4 cops were pretty diverse) interaction between police and a man that died who had hit rock bottom years prior and was high on several substance.
George Floyd was likely a man going to die early one way or another. Another victim of a fatherless household. Seems we should try and be more positive about fathers and encouraging strong family units. Maybe the shame of abandoning a child needs to return.
Don’t worry though, the liberals have this covered to stop this ever happening again. Abortions, will prevent more George Floyd’s (Abortions for blacks is why planned parenthood was founded). Anarchy (gang violence will take care of a few. shhhh not to be pointed out where most of this happens cough liberal cities) and gun control (just in case you thought you can protect yourself). Because criminals always want to buy guns legally.
Seems being a poor person in a liberal run area of the country is quite hazardous to your chances. Nothing like the racism of low expectations to elevate me up however to those rich white people in that nicer neighbourhood next to mine! One in 1000 of us are lucky to get a job we did not deserve so they can feel better, that despite their failed education system, some will make it and they will not have to bother to improve “the system” that works really well for “them”. I am sure there is systematic racism in there somewhere…..
August 17, 2020 @ 4:17 pm
Let’s please not veer this conversation into George Floyd, abortion, and “liberal” this and “liberal” that. Please stay on topic. Thank you.
August 17, 2020 @ 4:32 pm
I will liberally comply with your request and abort my comments about politics before they are even typed.
i’ll go crawl under a rock and watch some old episodes of Squidbillies
P.S. I like your website.
August 17, 2020 @ 9:12 am
Honestly I think I find his follow-up statement worst than the first…
“Yeah leave. Leave Liberals! Unfriend me, please. Because I don’t want you UN-AMERICANS around! . . . HAVE FUN forsaking your own race, culture, and heritage. Have a nice time!”
So are we calling white folks who believe in equitable treatment for minorities race traitors now? Not talking about BLM specifically, but even those such as Dolly who show general support for equitable (not equal) treatment of people of color.
Are these “Un-American”, race, culture, and heritage forsaking people he speaks of all white (since they are forsaking their race in support of people of color)?
Which then implies that in order to be “American” one must not forsake such things… And which race, culture, and heritage would that be? White?
August 17, 2020 @ 9:46 am
Reading the shit-show of comments on this topic, reminds one of how EVERYTHING has been politicized! It would have been nice if all entertainers would have just “shut up and sing” instead of trying to preach to the rest of us about their virtue-signaling. Although in Dolly’s case, in sure does look like some other folks were trying to trap her into saying stuff she probably didn’t want to say.
It’s also a damn shame the way sports have been politicized, but at least we can hope that politicized sports will finally prove to be the thing that causes professional sports leagues to go bankrupt.
It used to be that some of us just liked to watch sports and listen to music as an ESCAPE from politics, but if those political types think they can force us to listen to their BS, we can just tune them out.
August 17, 2020 @ 9:56 am
I for one hope NASCAR goes under soon.
August 17, 2020 @ 9:58 am
TL;DR Version:
Network fires racist piece of human garbage from shitty TV show for saying terrible things about one of the few genuinely decent celebrities. Bigots upset, everyone else Googling his name to figure out who the hell he is and why they should care (Spoiler alert: You shouldn’t).
You’re welcome.
August 17, 2020 @ 11:45 am
Unless if you’re Walt Disney
August 17, 2020 @ 2:27 pm
Well, that might be a worthy reduction of the issue for some. But for others that have been following and supporting underground country for a long time, they known that Unknown Hinson was a very important figure early on to help draw attention to this music, as was Squidbillies as can be confirmed if you look at the guests they brought in over the years. That is the reason I included some of his backstory in this article. I definitely would never defend what Stuart Baker said, and he’s been on the downturn for a while now. But as Elizabeth Cook said, this is a tragedy all around. Stuart Baker brought it all on himself, but we all lose.
August 17, 2020 @ 11:42 am
This is the same platform that encourages pedophilia and being a bloody awful person who are self-righteous. This is the guy who voiced a redneck squid in the same channel where they showed Hitler (with or without his dick out) and the platform with pedophilia and racism is perpetuated is cancelling him.
August 17, 2020 @ 2:41 pm
It’s not “cancel culture,” it’s called “consequences.” Welcome to adulthood.
August 17, 2020 @ 11:48 am
I know everyone has freedom of speech. Everyone also has a right to be an asshole but has to realize there are consequences to their behavior. Judging by another post of his I saw on Facebook post today he has not learned that lesson. What a moron.
I’ve read far too much about someone that I had not heard of before yesterday. What’s a Squidbilly anyhow?
Can we get back to music now?
August 17, 2020 @ 12:11 pm
LOL
August 17, 2020 @ 12:40 pm
Your stll THE KANG Danny!!!
August 17, 2020 @ 2:23 pm
Dolly didn’t say she supported the BLM organization. She said “of course black lives matter” and said she didn’t want to exclude and offend customers. Stuart Baker spouted off on Facebook (a publishing platform) in an incredibly tone-deaf, insulting, low-class way, his private sector employers said “ick,” and they fired him.
The only problem I see here is “people on hair triggers.”
Zephaniah OHora has a new single out. Live music is still mostly dead. Not much seems to be taking off in the virtual performance world except weird drive-in theatre “concerts” and the usual sputterings of our digital music machinery, which some people exploit better than others.
Fortunately, Ivor Cummins and other responsible adults are realizing that the CoV-19 casedemic will be over soon in the usual seasonal pattern. That won’t stop people from exploiting “cases OMFG!!!!” for various lousy reasons.
I expect bluegrass to come out of this the healthiest. It’s a traditional music played outside.
Yippee fall is coming, the whiskey season.
August 17, 2020 @ 2:53 pm
And i am very grateful that Hard Truth Hills is hosting concerts on the weekends.
Beautiful outdoor venue
August 17, 2020 @ 2:37 pm
White lives have mattered since “all men are created equal”. Black lives weren’t included. White lives matter since “with liberty and justice for all”. Blacks weren’t included. America, and many of you crackers, seem to still be figuring out what “all” means.
August 17, 2020 @ 3:34 pm
Crackers? My my my, I can feel the love.
August 17, 2020 @ 2:39 pm
Awwww, poor Stuart.
I love all the whiny little social media posts he’s been putting up about how he’s lost everything and everyone ruined his career and he’s being “crucified,” waaaah-waaaah-waaaah. He posts them, then immediately deletes. It’s always someone else’s fault, isn’t it, Stu?
And don’t even call this a “free speech” issue. Hey, he USED his First Amendment rights, y’all! No one stopped him…but in about a month when bills start coming in he’s going to wish someone DID!
This isn’t “cancel culture,” it’s called CONSEQUENCES. Welcome to Adulthood…or, as our African-American friends might say (assuming you knew any), “don’t let your mouth get you into something your a$$ can’t get you out of.”
You did this to yourself, so quit your whining and take it like a man, you pathetic MAGA chode.
August 17, 2020 @ 3:06 pm
All Stuart has to do is make a lateral move to NBC.
Join the brilliant cast of Saturday Night Live.
Freedom of speech is alive & well after all!
August 17, 2020 @ 5:35 pm
I think a large part is the intentional conflation of the BLM movement with the BLM organization. I know plenty of people that don’t get that its two separate entities, and only know about the organization and think it controls all the protests etc. It as a movement is beautiful. The organization on the other hand has some atrocious views and positions. You can be for one and not the other, but many have no concept of the idea.
August 17, 2020 @ 6:32 pm
One should be able to abide a bit of ambiguity about Black lives matter without needing to call Dolly Parton a “freak titted bimbo.”
August 18, 2020 @ 2:59 am
without a doubt.
August 17, 2020 @ 7:33 pm
God bless Unknown Hinson and Early Cuyler. The post read like an Early Cuyler line.
“I’m against all digits below and above the number 9. They, they all blasphemous. Uhh, and Nitrogen, ’cause you know it was brought here in ships by space Jews! Hell yeah, you know the ones.”
August 17, 2020 @ 9:28 pm
I don’t care what “everyone else” thinks. Cancel culture and Politically Correct language is for boot licking cucks.
The funniest part is realizing the roots, finances, and mechanics of BLM and the violent rioters hiding in the ranks of Antifa (another bold misnomer) domestic terrorists. And dare you say anything against them, you must be a stupid racist. It’s the most obvious mind-fudge of recent history, and the sheeple just roll with it like the nice news network anchors and celebrities tell them to. The conspiracy is more than a theory- the writing is on the wall. The jokes write themselves so often it’s not funny anymore, it’s downright scary. It’s nigh impossible to have an intelligent argument with the intolerant “tolerant leftists” as the party of their choice drags them towards the cliffs of Marxism and hate for their own misguided notion of their nation. It’s so bad that Orange Man is the only thing holding back the Red Tide.
August 18, 2020 @ 1:32 am
Ah yes, the Democratic party is inching towards communism. I do hope you’ll be a productive worker in the Kolkholz when the time comes.
August 18, 2020 @ 9:30 pm
JK… more like inching toward the basic economic ideas of both parties in the 1950s
August 18, 2020 @ 9:29 pm
Joe you shouldn’t believe everything you read on the internet. Its gonna be okay.
August 22, 2020 @ 10:40 am
It doesn’t sound like sarcasm.
August 18, 2020 @ 6:30 am
he didn’t hurt my feelings. I just wish he would have taken the time to figure out the context of her statement. mainly because I hate the idea of living in a world without Early Cuyler. damn shame it’s come to this. T***p 2020
August 18, 2020 @ 7:14 am
Ya’d think, that given he made his bones playing the character of a Southern redneck, he’d’ve known better than to come at Dolly Parton. No place in Appalachia will welcome him now.
August 18, 2020 @ 8:03 am
“I bought a Dolly Parton album and now I own her. Because I bought an album, Dolly Parton has to conform to my racist views.”
“I’m not a racist, but when Dolly Parton rejects racism, it makes me mad!”
When they talk about “entitlement”, this is what they are talking about.
October 8, 2020 @ 12:17 am
Yes the only approved way to not be racist is to support BLM and I can’t write about being unhappy about somebody’s beliefs because that means I’m trying to own someone.
August 18, 2020 @ 9:09 am
I never heard of Stuart Baker before but he’s my new hero! I’m against the BLM organization because of their Marxism and anti life/anti family views. I also can’t stand the blacks that act like White people owe them everything and they’re such victims. I’m proud to be white. It’s who I am. By the way, calling me a racist isn’t an insult to me. I don’t have a p with black people who act normal. I just believe in live and let live. I just prefer my own culture in my own life.
August 18, 2020 @ 3:27 pm
You can be against Black Lives Matter, and also be against calling someone like Dolly Parton a “bimbo” and and “slut,” seeing how much she has done for poor whites over half a century. Calling women such names seems to be anti traditional values as much as anything, especially when there’s not really any truth behind the insults. As someone who is white, I don’t want Stuart Baker speaking for me, and how we treat our cultural icons.
August 18, 2020 @ 9:25 pm
Sara you can blow out the smoke the pundits feed you about marxism and anti-life and whatever. the real question is this… Do you think black people should have the same right to due process guaranteed by the constitution as you do. That’s the only issue. If you agree then black live matter.
August 18, 2020 @ 8:23 pm
Any half-witted, barely famous employee of a major corporation (Warner Media/Cartoon Network owns “Squidbillies”) is going to pay a heavy price for publicly calling Dolly Parton a “slut.”
August 19, 2020 @ 11:07 am
If he turns into a Democrat, all of this will be forgotten and forgiven.
Look at Biden. A history of racist statements and he is running for president. The (D) is magical.
August 19, 2020 @ 6:22 pm
You wrote all this, instead of “fuck him for disrespecting Dolly, and the bastard deserved to be fired.”
Shame.
But liberals stay triggering you, huh?
Anyway, fuck this old bastard and fuck anyone who has a problem with what Dolly says. Hate to break it to you dumb fucks slobbering over her tits (because noneo f you have been paying attention to her lyrics if her #blm comments shocked you), but she has always been liberal in her thoughts: feminist, pro immigrant, pro sex worker, and pro LGBT.
She’d find you and your small little bigoted brain disgusting. Because you are.
August 19, 2020 @ 7:57 pm
Whoa. Why the shade for me? Because I reported a story without prejudice or malice? If you believe I deflected blame from Stuart Baker in any way, you certainly didn’t read the same story that I wrote. And at least I wrote a story on it. Instead of sending verbal daggers my way, maybe ask where the story was from Billboard, from Rolling Stone Country, from The Boot, Taste of Country, Slate, Salon, CNN, Pitchfork, The Daily Beast, and so many others others. Why didn’t they report on this story? Why didn’t they report on the story of Mickey Guyton being disinvited from a video shoot for The Highwomen?
https://savingcountrymusic.com/explanation-owed-on-why-highwomen-disinvited-mickey-guyton/
Silence is violence, right? I’m proud that I reported this story, and exposed the racially insensitive and sexist comments of Stuart Baker, as opposed to ignoring it, or only addressing it with a quippy, virtue signaling tweet. Instead of turning your ire toward how I reported this story, turn it toward the ones who didn’t bother to report it at all. Or more importantly, go report it the way you feel it should be covered yourself.
October 8, 2020 @ 12:13 am
How exactly is silence violence? Don’t you think there is a significant difference between silence and what historically has been called violence?
October 8, 2020 @ 7:14 am
I don’t believe silence is violence. I was making a rhetorical point.
August 20, 2020 @ 4:11 pm
I would encourage all the clowns defending his actions to go into work and start screaming sexist, racist and homophobic rants at co-workers and customers.
You’ll almost certainly find yourself in the same spot as Baker.
October 8, 2020 @ 12:10 am
That’s a good point except that’s not what happened at all
August 24, 2020 @ 1:57 pm
I left social media a while back, but jump back into this site when there’s news.
Man I don’t miss this bullshit. It’s even infected LinkedIn.
February 16, 2021 @ 10:36 am
God created everybody. As a Christian I’m with Dolly . And anyone that has a problem with what dolly said ? Has got a problem with jesus and all his children. This guy is a racist pig .
February 16, 2021 @ 12:52 pm
What does Early Cuyler, Anthony Cumia, and Roseanne Conner have in common?
The actors who played them were fired for racist tweets!
May 16, 2021 @ 4:52 pm
I know some people are racist but damn, after reading the comments here American makes more sense.
November 8, 2021 @ 8:52 am
Black lives mattering & BLM are 2 entirely different statements. 1 is a FACT, the other one was invented & pushed to the Public by the Left, to try and take the focus off of A complete self admitting Racist known as Joe Biden who was SElected POTUS! As well they were made to create more division in America. BLM hasn’t supported 1 black person with the millions they have reaped & given to the Democrat party!! DON’T BE IGNORANT, Do your research right on their website! Dolly is ignorant for NOT doing so, & NOW is irrelevant to the millions who have supported her. Calling her a Slut was wrong, but thats about it!
July 23, 2022 @ 11:47 am
I hate white people.
May 10, 2023 @ 7:31 am
Ah yes,another dull-normal,ugly redneck’s career (?) self-sabotaged through his bigotry.When will these Bubbas,Billy Bobs and Beckys learn this is 2023,not 1953,the year this preposterously handsome black outlaw was born ?
October 19, 2023 @ 3:52 pm
I hate dumb folk of EVERY background.