The Great Kacey Musgraves Country Music Experiment
Oh Kacey, what are we going to do with you?
Mid January is the season that most of the big mainstream country music acts unveil their touring plans for the year, and as Blake Shelton was announcing the “Hide Your Daughters” tour presented by Taco Bell, and Jason Aldean announced the “Overlords of Auto-Tune” tour with Florida Georgia Line and Tyler Farr, country music critical favorite Kacey Musgraves announced she would not be touring with one of her country music bunk mates, but of all people, the buxom purple-haired pop star Katy Perry. Kacey is reportedly writing with Katy too.
No joke.
Some Kacey Musgraves’ supporters were disappointed, or even outraged, just as many of those same supporters were disappointed last year when she went out on tour with Kenny Chesney. As if Kacey, who despite her disposition of being slated beside artists like Jason Isbell instead of Jason Aldean, and Brandy Clark instead of Brantley Gilbert, isn’t still very much an artist existing in the highest reaches of the mainstream country music industry and all the trappings thereof. Maybe in some fan’s music brains she belongs on the club and theater circuit so they get to see her in a more intimate setting. But to Kacey’s label, there’s money to be made, and an artist to launch so she can eventually go on her own arena tours.
Others see this as an opportunity to spread the country music gospel—the ol’ theory of music osmosis that we sometimes see assigned to artists like Taylor Swift and Florida Georgia Line. As if some 15-year-old girl is going to hear Taylor Swift and be inspired to lip sync in front of a full-length mirror to Ralph Peer’s primitive recordings of The Carter Family, or similar circumstances might transpire amongst the glitterfaced crowd at a Katy Perry concert because Kacey Musgraves looks so good in hot pants up there on stage. Sure, Kacey will likely win more fans for Kacey Musgraves, and ultimately that’s the point. But let’s tap the brakes on thinking this will be some monumental step for country music.
More importantly, what this concert pairing seems to allude to are important trends in both country music, and the career of Kacey Musgraves.
If it wasn’t clear that Kacey’s label Mercury Nashville had no idea what to do with her before, it is pretty evident now. The one thing we do know about Musgraves is that she enjoys the utmost in label support—arguably unparallelled and unprecedented in the industry. Remember when Kacey was nominated for the ACM for Female Vocalist of the Year in 2013 before she had even released a album or had a Top 10 single? Or how about at the 2013 CMA Awards when she received 6 nominations, as many as Taylor Swift and more than anyone else? Kacey is also up for 4 Grammy Awards here in 2014.
Of course Kacey’s work as a songwriter helped pad these numbers, and not to allude that she didn’t deserve these nominations—they were much deserved, and a sign of the righting of the country music ship in 2013. But a brand new artist like Kacey Musgraves does not receive these types of industry-leading accolades, especially when they’re not backed by sales numbers, without the undying and tireless support of a label looking to launch an artist they believe in both as an artistic and commercial success.
But that has been the biggest problem with Kacey—the commercial success. Compared to many of the other critical darlings Musgraves was amongst on various outlet’s “Best of 2013” lists, Kacey’s sales are astronomical. But compared to her country industry peers, they’re paltry. Kacey’s album Same Trailer, Different Park has just barely peaked over 300,000 copies sold. For comparison, all the other albums nominated for the CMA Album of the Year in 2013 have at least sold 1 million copies.
Kacey has also yet to have a Top 10 single, with “Merry Go ‘Round” coming the closest at #14. Her latest two singles “Blowin’ Smoke” and “Follow Your Arrow” both stalled out at #31 and #28 respectively, despite a big radio push and big budget videos. Still not bad numbers, but nowhere near the level Mercury Nashville must be wanting, or expecting from an artist that has achieved such industry accolades and undying label support.
Then there was the controversy about “the look” Kacey was caught giving while they were announcing the candidates for Female Vocalist of the Year at the CMA Awards, and more recently, the Twitter brushup she got into with influential Clear Channel DJ Bobby Bones. As some pointed out, Bobby Bones at the time had more followers on Twitter than Kacey did, speaking to both the powerful influence of Bones, and the lack of wide support behind Musgraves. In the social network era, it’s not enough for an artist to release good music. Like the modern day NASCAR driver, they’re expected to be media savvy, not just skilled at their discipline to achieve at the top level.
Hence, a change of plans for Kacey. Some new scenery. Maybe country and specifically country radio is not going to be as receptive to Kacey as first thought. Maybe they’re not ready for the paradigm shift just yet. Maybe she’s too edgy. So go out there and find some more fertile ground. And hell, both her and Katy Perry have songs about kissing girls….
And this is where Mercury Nashville and Kacey seem to be miscalculating. Though Kacey is well-recognized as a critical success and symbolizes a new type of country star, they’re falling back on their old habits of how to present her to the masses by using marketing points. They release “Blowin’ Smoke,” hoping to capitalize off the popularity of pot in popular culture, despite the song not referencing reefer directly. “Follow Your Arrow” seemed to be released to radio not for its underlying message, but because the edginess of the content might stir controversy and create interest in the song and Kacey.
Instead of handling Musgraves like the next Loretta Lynn, leading the way by addressing deep cultural issues, they’re trying to make a her a one-trick pony to be popularized through buzzwords and politicization. What happened to letting the music speak for itself, and what happened to all the momentum built up by the success of “Merry Go ‘Round”?
Mercury Nashville was also at the helm for the lost opportunity with another artist that was a critical success and achieved the highest industry accolades at awards shows, but ultimately didn’t stick in the wide public perception: Jamey Johnson. Granted, Johnson is in the midst of a contract dispute and has been sitting on his writing hands now for years. But this was another artist that country fans clamoring for more substance in the genre could get behind, but so far has yet to make a long-term impact in the mainstream industry. The career of Jamey Johnson right now is very much adrift.
Don’t get me wrong, this isn’t all Mercury Nashville’s fault. You can’t say they aren’t trying, and trying in an industry that is notoriously suspicious of change and slow to implement it, and that is looking to appeal to what are many times simple-minded fans who don’t want to look for the deeper meaning in songs.
Kacey Musgraves is too good for mainstream country, while at the same time maybe too edgy for the rank and file of country music’s traditional arm. Like Scott Borchetta of Mercury Nashville rival Big Machine Records said recently, the industry must dig a little deeper, and Kacey Musgraves is a positive sign of the industry committing to that. And it’s not like Musgraves hasn’t made back the investment her label has made in her, but the stretch of the Katy Perry pairing makes it appear like they want more from that investment.
What this all speaks to is a deeper, more fundamental issue: If Mercury Nashville, or any other label cannot create successful, or at least mainstream-sustainable careers out of these critically-acclaimed artists, and are forced to reach to outside of the country genre for support, then what is the motivation for these labels and the industry to continue to burn attention and capital on them?
In this respect, Kacey Musgraves must work, and the Katy Perry concert tour must be successful in Kacey’s pursuit of her true fan base. Because if not, Kacey could set the precedent for the rest of the industry of why to not invest in substance.
Meanwhile, all Kacey Musgraves wants to do is write, record, and perform songs. And if she is ultimately going to be successful, that is what she must focus on.
January 20, 2014 @ 3:50 pm
Random. Pop star Lorde turned down that tour support slot for Katy Perry – which would have been a much better fit I’d thought. I admired Lorde’s integrity for doing so:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11126715
January 20, 2014 @ 4:11 pm
Interesting. From what I understand, Lorde is about the biggest thing in music right now. That adds another interesting wrinkle to this story.
January 20, 2014 @ 4:28 pm
Lorde is a million miles from Kacey in terms of music. How do Perry’s ‘people’ decide who to approach for tour spots? Does Perry herself have a list of artists she’d like to support her (explaining the randomness of it all) or is it more strategic and her record co decides on that?
January 20, 2014 @ 8:08 pm
Lorde represents something that seems new to me. And, I could put other groups like Icona Pop, LFMAO, Tegan & Sarah, and Jessie J in this category (etc). There have always been one hit wonders but the money and influence that goes behind some people now with a single “hit” song (and nothing else radio worthy to back it up) is interesting. Maybe the attention span is just that much shorter now?
Everyone gushes over Lorde like she’s been around for awhile with a string of hits under her belt but (like most newcomers) the odds are highly in favor of her never managing to write or record another song that breaks into the top 10.
Although Katy Perry is an example of how popularity and an absurd about of influence and financial backing can make a really marginal pop song like “Eye of the Tiger” a hit.
It’s crazy out there 🙂
January 20, 2014 @ 8:29 pm
‘Team’ by Lorde is currently at #11 and rising on the Hot 100. Plus she just turned 17 so I’m not sure who has been saying she has been around for very long. I mean everybody is new at some point and ‘Royals’ was a huge(nine weeks at #1) hit and different from what is hot right now. She is blazing a trail in her own way just like Kacey Musgraves. Or at least they are both trying to anyway.
January 21, 2014 @ 5:55 am
Any other song put out by Lorde right now would break into the top 20. That’s just the way it is.
It’s the same thing with FGL’s “Stay”. If “Stay” was their first single it would have never made it into the top 100. That song is so painful. Those boys don’t have what it takes to slow down.
It seems like most of what’s in the top 40 at times is just people riding on fame and not anything to do with the quality of the music.
January 20, 2014 @ 8:40 pm
A musical landscape dominated by one-hit wonders is not necessarily a bad thing. I would much rather have great one-hits from a large number of artists than an array of mediocre songs from a small group of artists.
One-hit wonders made the 80s the best decade in pop music, IMO.
January 20, 2014 @ 4:49 pm
Okay, time for some political analysis!
I tend to divide political values into cultural and economic axes (a la Nolan Chart). Katy Perry and Kacey Musgraves are both strong cultural liberals, but are indifferent on economic issues. Lorde, on the other hand, seems to be strongly left-leaning on economic issues (as displayed in her anti-materialist lyrics).
Therefore, Kacey Musgraves serves as a natural fit at a Katy Perry concert, while Lorde would probably consider such a concert to be too materialist.
January 20, 2014 @ 5:06 pm
Interesting thoughts. I guess we’ll never know why artists make these decisions at the end of the day. If Hank 3 announced he was going to tour with *insert name of mainstream pop-cuntry band here* (yeah, I know that would NEVER happen) I’d actually be pretty stoked for him. It would bring his music to a whole new audience. I Iike to see my favourite artists do well and not have to financially struggle.
January 20, 2014 @ 5:12 pm
Ah, Hank3 is a whole different ballgame! His fans (of which he has many, as evidenced by his Damn Right Rebel Proud album sales) are so radically anti-pop-country that a larger number of them would abandon him if he went on tour with a pop country artist. On the other hand, his lyrics would probably have very limited appeal to mainstream country fans.
Due to these factors, touring with a pop-country band would likely hurt his finances, not help.
January 22, 2014 @ 10:10 am
I agree with you Eric. I gotta tell you, as a big Hank 3 fan, if I was to see him tour with some big time pop country star, I would be extremely disappointed.
January 20, 2014 @ 5:20 pm
Eric – just curious, would you consider Taylor Swift to be a cultural liberal or cultural conservative? What about Carrie?
January 20, 2014 @ 5:43 pm
I would rate Taylor as pretty much culturally moderate. She was probably a bit conservative-leaning early in her career (with songs like “Fifteen”), but now she is a bit liberal-leaning (with songs like “22”). Overall, though, her songs neither strongly promoted nor criticized tradition and organized religion.
Since the average pop singer is solidly culturally liberal, the pop world has always considered Taylor to be conservative. On the other hand, she has always been more liberal than most country singers.
Carrie is a more interesting example. Early in her career, she was definitely culturally conservative (as shown by her religious songs). With the significant level of promiscuity in her recent songs, I would now rank her as culturally moderate to liberal. Her shift has definitely been more dramatic than Taylor’s.
January 20, 2014 @ 10:43 pm
What does promiscuity have anything to do with where you are on the political spectrum?
I ca tell you right now that the sex-positive movement is transcending political affiliations and distinctions. There may be truth to the claim that it is accelerating faster in college cities and urban enclaves, but you’d be surprised as to how many self-professed conservatives and libertarians are playing key roles in the movement as well.
In fact, one of my favorite blogs I’ve been following is ran by a woman who identifies as both a feminist and a libertarian titled “Sex-Positive, State-Negative”. It’s really worth a gander.
But I digress. I just had to comment on the myth that promiscuity is exclusive to a particular political leaning.
January 20, 2014 @ 11:00 pm
Libertarians are social liberals and economic conservatives. They should not in any way be lumped in with social conservatives.
January 20, 2014 @ 10:39 pm
Kacey Musgraves is a self-professed “libertarian” (I put quotation marks around it because, let’s face it, voting for Ron Paul doesn’t make you a textbook libertarian by default), while Katy Perry is an establishment Democrat (left-of-center, but not outspokenly “liberal” or “progressive”)
January 20, 2014 @ 10:58 pm
Katy Perry is definitely socially liberal, and the culturally rebellious nature of her songs shows it. That is what she and Kacey Musgraves have in common.
January 21, 2014 @ 12:46 am
I know she has since distanced herself from those roots, and I know much of this can be attributed to pressure through her self-professed “conservative” parents, but her earlier recording career suggests she subscribed heavily to her Christian upbringing (in contrast, when she touches on faith in her more recent work, it’s decidedly more spiritual).
Interestingly enough, I actually consider the songwriting off of “Katy Hudson” superior to anything she has released under the moniker Katy Perry (and I do happen to think Katy Perry is an exquisitely consistent technical songwriter, though she’s often embarrassing as a lyricist). Lyrically, I dare argue she was at her peak to date with her sole Christian album. “Piercing”, “Growing Pains” and “Search Me” all prove Perry knows how to write a damn personal and intimate song when she really puts her mind to it. Sometimes you still see flashes of that potential pop up in “Not Like The Movies” and “Wide Awake”.
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I think I see your point, although I’d still argue she’s more of an establishment Democrat than a “liberal” activist type.
January 21, 2014 @ 1:14 am
Katy Perry started out as a Christian singer, but she eventually rebelled against it like nobody else. She introduced herself to pop music through the controversial “I Kissed a Girl”, and the rest is history.
Politically, she is typical of today’s young generation in America (as well as much of the new professional class Democratic voting base): strongly culturally liberal but moderate, vacillating, or indifferent on economic issues. I think Kacey Musgraves fits the same mold, even down to the culturally conservative family background.
January 20, 2014 @ 3:58 pm
Never heard of her before, just Youtube her. She’s too good for mainstream.
January 20, 2014 @ 3:58 pm
Totally agree.
I wish the industry would have gotten behind Ashley Monroe’s Like A Rose. Kasey has everyone saying she is the hope of country…really? It is ridiculous. Her CD the the push from EVERYONE isn’t even gold yet. Ashley Monroe is equally if not more talented in singing and writing and didn’t get the same ACM/CMA love. Hope ACMs recognize her this year. Kasey is a little too cutesy for her own good. Kacey can go write more jingles for Oreos and sing pop songs w/ Katy.
January 20, 2014 @ 8:13 pm
I love Ashely Monroe. She sounds like an authentic country singer and when she sang “Blue Eyes Crying in the Rain” with Willie Nelson I got goose bumps. I also love that her lyrics were original and modern but still were an authentic country way of telling a story in a song.
Sadly even being part of the Pistol Annies and Blake Shelton singing a duet with her on her album didn’t do too much to help her album. And, she’s been completely ignored on Radio and on the Country award shows (of course).
I’d rather see her do well than Kacey Musgraves really.
January 20, 2014 @ 4:14 pm
“Kacey Musgraves is too good for mainstream country, while at the same time maybe too edgy for the rank and file of country music”™s traditional arm.” I may get arguments for drawing this parallel, but doesn’t that statement somewhat fit Eric Church circa 2009? He didn’t truly find his audience until he got off the big tours and struck out on his own in smaller venues.
Even though I get continually diminishing returns from Church’s music, he’s still got a little capital with me thanks to two great small-venue shows I saw him play. I don’t think that’s a terrible playbook to follow in Musgraves’ case. If you can connect with country music fans, you usually buy yourself some long-term loyalty.
January 20, 2014 @ 5:02 pm
This is an interesting point Brett, and one I hadn’t thought of. Kacey did not spend that type of hard time on the club / theater circuit that a lot of other artists did. She spent some time there for sure, and I don’t want to characterize it like she did not pay dues. But she took that big leap to opening on stadium shows for Kenny Chesney rather quickly, which I think we can all agree is not her demo. So she never made the same type of connection with her fan base that creates that loyalty.
January 20, 2014 @ 4:21 pm
Interesting read but a misread of what’s going on IMO. I don’t think you’re selling Kacey Musgraves way short on the amount of agency she has in her own career.
For one thing, Mercury Nashville doesn’t necessarily decide who Kacey Musgraves tours with, so putting that decision on them without considering Kacey’s own wishes and the influence of Kacey’s management (Sandbox Entertainment) oversimplifies the picture. I think it’s pretty clear the Katy Perry tour was born of Kacey’s personal connection and previous collaborations with Katy Perry (they’ve written together, Kacey had previously joined the Katy Perry show at the Hollywood Bowl last October).
You’re once again seriously underplaying the importance of Kacey’s own wishes here.
She was the one pushing all along for “Follow Your Arrow” to be her 2nd single (see: this New York Times article among others). She’s the one who wanted to winnow out the fans who might not like her based on the message of the song. Her label resisted and wanted to play it safe, after country radio programmers at last year’s Country Radio Seminar loved “Follow Your Arrow” but didn’t think they could play it (see: Billboard).
Your comment about why “Blowin’ Smoke” was picked as a single is self-contradictory. The song doesn’t refer to pot but that’s why it was chosen as a single? No offense, but that’s a completely unsupported argument. The label tested several songs through an online survey for both the 2nd and 3rd singles from this album – I know because I took both surveys – the songs tested for single #2: were “Silver Lining,” “Step Off,” “Follow Your Arrow,” and “Blowin’ Smoke,” and the songs tested for single #3 were “Silver Lining,” “Step Off,” “Keep It To Yourself,” and “My House.”
Safe to say “Blowin’ Smoke” got the best feedback in the single #2 surveys. As far as single #3, there was a gap between “Blowin’ Smoke”‘s peak and the announcement of single #3, during which Kacey was still pushing for FYA based on the response she got to that song. During that gap, Sirius XM The Highway started playing “Follow Your Arrow,” and single sales based off that airplay showed some pretty good movement based on that. So I think the label finally greenlit the single. Not because of controversy but because it was the song that’s consistently evoked the strongest response from fans.
This ignores the fact that Kacey Musgraves had 2013’s highest 1st week sales for a debut country act, and the highest total sales for any country act debuting in 2013. With 1 t10 airplay hit from about 11 months ago, another t30 single (er album sales have smoked the album sales of the baby act bros with more airplay, including but not limited to Brett Eldredge (who has a #1 hit plus another soon to be t20 single), Thomas Rhett (#1 hit plus another 2 t20 hits with another hit in the making), Tyler Farr (#1 hit), and more. Sales of Same Trailer, Different Park have also outpaced sales of Randy Houser’s How Country Feels despite that album having 2 #1 hits and another t20 hit that’s looking like another t10 hit (and probably another #1).
Kacey’s peers in the CMA Album Of The Year category are all established acts so ignoring the strength of her album sales compared to other baby acts misrepresents the picture. Is she selling as big as Florida-Georgia Line, also a new act? No. But she’s outsold all the other newbies in the country market by a pretty good clip – ignoring that really undermines the case you’re making here.
January 20, 2014 @ 5:03 pm
“I don”™t think you”™re selling Kacey Musgraves way short on the amount of agency she has in her own career.”
Terrible sentence – I meant to say either “I don’t think you’re giving Kacey Musgraves enough credit” or “I think you’re selling Kacey Musgraves way short” and jumbled them up.
January 20, 2014 @ 5:35 pm
Windmills,
First off, please don’t overlook that the underlying theme of this article. It is not just about Kacey Musgraves, but a commentary on country music right now using the information that Kacey Musgraves is going to be touring with Katy Perry as a jumping off point. I understand that Kacey is writing with Katy, and that the tour (for the moment) is a short one. And I’m sure she most certainly had some feedback on the decision to go out with Katy Perry. But that also doesn’t mean the Mercury didn’t have to sign off on it. For major labels stars, it is the labels that pay for the band, tour buses, gear, meal stipends, etc. etc. for a tour. In fact that is the principle difference between a major label and all others: the financial touring support. So they at least have to be on board with the decision.
As for the release of the singles: If the research showed them that “Follow Your Arrow” and “Blowin’ Smoke” would be the best singles, that’s why research should only be one element to a wider swath of data and decision making, because ultimately their success as singles was limited. Of course we will never know, but in my opinion, if “Silver Lining” had been released second, this would be a completely different story. Whether it was calculated on Mercury and Kacey’s part, or completely accidental, the release of her singles has made her come across as gimmicky to many. Just look at some of the comments right here in this thread of people calling her a pop star. And then what are they doing? They’re combining it with the Katy Perry news and saying, “See !?!” Of course, Saving Country Music readers don’t constitute a wide swatch of demographic research either, but when you combine it with the lackluster chart performance and sales, it shows a pattern. At some point you have to get your nose out of the data and listen to your gut. What kind of artist does Kacey Musgraves want to be?
As far as the sales, as I said above multiple times, I don’t want to diminish her success. But compared to her peers in categories like Album of the Year, and Female Artist of the Year, her sales are less than half of the others. It doesn’t mean she didn’t have a great debut week, but other things factor into this. In fact I was much more excited for the album than I was with the album, and those sales numbers would somewhat corroborate that.
All that said, I do agree with you that I may have put a little too much onto Mercury Nashville and not Kacey Musgraves here, and I’ve changed a bit of the wording to reflect that.
Ultimately, my concern is that if artists like Kacey Musgraves have to migrate to pop to find proper support, or slip through the cracks like Jamey Johnson did, our hopes for an artist of substance rising to the top of country, and hopefully inspiring other artists to do so and labels to support them are diminished.
January 20, 2014 @ 7:52 pm
Thanks for clarifying, Trigger.
I totally agree there’s a very interesting conversation to be had about this. Isn’t it fascinating to see all the attention Kacey Musgraves is getting in the country world for joining one of the year’s highest profile pop tours? I feel like country fans don’t know what to do with this information. Your readers aside, I think most people see Kacey Musgraves as a real country act in addition to being an act of substance, unlike Katy Perry in both aspects.
So here’s some crazy talk. What if Kacey/her management/label welcome all this discussion? What if they, like Eric Church’s people, like the confusion because they think it proves Kacey isn’t predictable? What if this is their shot across the bow at country radio, which hasn’t gotten on board with Kacey’s last 2 singles despite the Ryman Auditorium-full of country radio programmers loving “Follow Your Arrow” when Kacey performed it at CRS in 2013? What if her unwillingness to kiss Bobby Bones’s ring is just part of Kacey drawing some lines about how far she’s willing to go for country radio play?
Think about the state of today’s country radio and the people running it. Is there anything they’re likely to find more alluring than pop exposure? So maybe Team Kacey’s message to country radio is this: if all the NPR and Pazz & Jop and year-end critical love doesn’t make you want to claim me and my reflected glory, I’m about to reach a crowd you think is even cooler. What if Kacey’s (3 week) spot on the Katy Perry tour is accompanied by the “Follow Your Arrow” video being played on MTV? What if Kacey winds up with a VMA nomination for that video, since the VMAs have started including a category for Best Video With A Social Message? What if Kacey gets a VMA performance slot? Country radio would love to be all over that.
Some of Kacey’s media coverage, including this Grammy preview by USA Today has called Kacey Musgraves the “anti-Taylor Swift.” What if Kacey Musgraves proves she has crossover appeal without the Max Martin sellout and with a much deeper understanding of and adherence to country music roots than Taylor Swift has ever had? What if the development of this crossover appeal is what makes country radio feel that it must get on board with Kacey Musgraves?
Obviously, I’m getting way ahead of myself. But the point I’m trying to make is there’s a different conversation we could be having here in country music about Kacey Musgraves and how she may be playing outside the rules of the usual country game. I don’t know if she’ll succeed or not. But the bumps in the road you cited are nothing Eric Church didn’t also face (maybe with less tabloid coverage because the media’s harder on women than men), and I’m pretty sure Kacey Musgraves is made of stronger stuff than he is.
Just my opinion but I don’t think “Silver Lining” would’ve done much at country radio or for Kacey’s sales. Just not much of an impact track. Critical reviews seemed to most consistently single out “Follow Your Arrow” and “It Is What It Is” as the album standouts, with “Keep It To Yourself” getting some attention too. Too, having seen Kacey twice live, those three tracks plus “Trailer Song” (which didn’t make Same Trailer, Different Park but is better than almost everything than did) got the best reactions in concert too.
January 20, 2014 @ 9:04 pm
One concern I have with Kacey is that she will tour and start co-writing with Katy Perry, see that pop is greener pastures for her, and become either more of a crossover star like Taylor Swift, or abandon the country format altogether.
The loss of talent in country with artists like Kacey who feel like the country format is not heady enough for their music is a big challenge. People wonder why all the males in country just sing stupid songs, it’s because the ones that sing smart ones would never want to associate themselves with what is called “country” right now. So they call it Americana or rock and avoid country altogether to the point where the lack of talent in the format becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. I think it takes a commitment from both the artist and the industry to help nurture the development of artists and keep talent like Kacey Musgraves within the fold.
As for “Trailer Song,” to me this is the perfect example how the potential of Kacey Musgraves and her debut album and single selection was fumbled. Maybe there is a perfectly legitimate explanation of why that song didn’t make it on the album that has to do with legal or licensing issues, or some other situation out of their control. But the name of the album is “Same Trailer, Different Park.” When I saw Kacey on her Austin City Limits taping, they had taken little trailer park-themed decorations and used them on the set. This is the theme of your album, and that song fits on it perfectly. So why in the world wouldn’t you put it there? She performs it live, and as you said it scores high, so it’s not like she’s holding it in her back pocket, waiting for a future project. And in my opinion, it would have been a better single than either of her previous two, and would have been a better chaser to “Merry Go ‘Round” specifically.
Who made this decision and why? I just don’t have any faith in whatever plan or structure is around Kacey.
January 20, 2014 @ 9:15 pm
“I think it takes a commitment from both the artist and the industry to help nurture the development of artists and keep talents like Kacey Musgraves within the fold”
This is what I’ve been trying to say in my own clumsy way. Artist development is a very important aspect of saving country music in my opinion. If the promising acts don’t grow and increase in influence we have no chance really I’m afraid.
January 20, 2014 @ 9:44 pm
Kacey Musgraves has already confirmed she has been co-writing songs with Katy Perry:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/kacey-musgraves-on-writing-with-katy-perry-same-trailer-follow-up-20131126
So there you have it: she’s already testing those waters…
January 20, 2014 @ 9:54 pm
Based on her music, I think Kacey Musgraves’s love of country music is too deep and country roots too deeply ingrained inside her for her to abandon country music. This isn’t a Taylor Swift situation where the artist’s country foundation was weak to begin with.
The question with Kacey is whether she’ll pursue her country music within the mainstream country format or as a crossover act or as an alternative act, or somehow thread the needle and be all of the above, carving out a place for her version of alternative crossover in country and her version of country in pop and alternative worlds.
January 20, 2014 @ 6:00 pm
Let me put it like this:
I am a Kacey Musgraves fan. I think she could be great for the genre. I think what she was able to do with “Merry Go ‘Round” was groundbreaking. But since then, I feel like she has been mismanaged. Blame it on her, her label, her management team, whoever. But I feel like she could have been in a much better position if better songs were selected for the album, and better songs were released as singles. Instead her opportunity has been somewhat fumbled. The reason I’m showing such great concern is because I want Kacey Musgraves to succeed. I believe in her, and I believe in her music.
Who knows, maybe her Katy Perry tour stint and co-written Katy Perry songs might be the eventual solution to her flowering as an artist. And if so, excellent. I’m not necessarily against it. But when I look at Kacey today, I see an artist that looks to be overwhelmed, like the weight of the world is on her shoulders. She has all these expectation lobbed onto her by fans and the industry and media. All of this is the reason people were worried it was too soon in 2013 when the ACM’s gave her the nom for Female Vocalist. Let her develop, let her build up her roots and fan base. This whole process seems to be riddled with corporate bureaucratic bad decision making. My hope is Kacey can weather it and come out the other side in one piece. You can make a strong argument that Jamey Johnson didn’t.
January 21, 2014 @ 10:03 am
Not to be a troll… but the most interesting part to me is… honest question… how are you getting that formatting on the quotes in your comments?
January 21, 2014 @ 12:37 pm
I was wondering this myself. These comments are HTML and coding active, so Windmills must know the code.
January 21, 2014 @ 12:48 pm
Let’s see if this works.
January 21, 2014 @ 12:52 pm
You can do it using before and after. You have to remove the quotation marks. I just included them so it didn’t code the test in between.
January 21, 2014 @ 12:53 pm
OK, one more try… you use blockquote before and /blockquote after. The words need to be surrounded by .
January 20, 2014 @ 4:27 pm
Musgraves never appealed to me as a country music fan. To me it always seemed like she just happened to fall into the country music genre not an artist that respected or loved the genre. So for me, being on the same bill with Perry makes sense.
I also wish Monroe would have received more love from the CMA than Musgraves.
January 20, 2014 @ 4:39 pm
Why pin this on Mercury Nashville? Maybe it was Kacey’s idea to go on tour with Katy Perry. After all, the idea that the two of them would be friends is not particularly surprising given the fact that Kacey has more in common with Katy than with other country stars when it comes to social (and perhaps political) values.
January 20, 2014 @ 5:07 pm
The only thing I am pinning on Mercury Nashville are some of her award show successes, including and most notably her nomination for Female Vocalist at the ACM’s in 2013. Though again, I say that not to discount Musgraves herself, because without the surprising success of “Merry Go ‘Round” it wouldn’t have happened at all.
Kacey may have arranged the Katy Perry pairing herself, or Katy Perry may have reached out to Kacey. I’m not sure that it makes any difference. The point is that Kacey is having to reach outside the genre to attempt to connect with a fan base, and that is what is alarming in my opinion. And not just for Kacey, but for country music.
January 20, 2014 @ 5:31 pm
I have always felt that though her music is thoroughly country, Kacey is thematically a poor fit for the genre. Country music is a deeply traditionalist genre that reveres the rural and small town lifestyle with its cultural underpinnings in religion. It is about taking comfort in community and family after a hard day at work.
With songs like “Merry Go Round”, “Follow Your Arrow”, or more subtly “Blowin Smoke” and “It Is What It Is”, Kacey seems to be speaking to the desires of the subset of rural and small town people who dislike the cultural homogeneity of their communities and long to move to more cosmopolitan pastures, even if it means taking menial service jobs (e.g. the waitress in “Blowin Smoke”).
Bridging this disconnect between the demographics who like her music and the demographics receptive to her thematic message may serve as the key challenge for her going forward. Joining the Katy Perry concert probably serves as the first step in this process, as she is introducing herself to an audience that would actually like her lyrics.
January 20, 2014 @ 6:02 pm
But there is a history of the type of counterpoint themes Kacey Musgraves employs in country music. “Harper Valley PTA,” and songs from Loretta Lynn and Tammy Wynette. I think there’s a place for Kacey Musgraves in country.
January 20, 2014 @ 6:40 pm
That is no doubt the case with Loretta Lynn. However, many of her most edgy songs received no radio play. Ultimately, she was most famous for “Coal Miner’s Daughter”, a song that celebrated the comfort that comes from rootedness in family and religion despite material poverty (e.g. “Mommie rocked the baby that night and read the Bible by the coal oil light”).
As for Tammy Wynette, she was forever associated with “Stand by Your Man”.
Kacey does not have that base of traditionalist songs to fall back on. She came out of the gate with “Merry Go Round”, and that is the singular image that she wishes to portray.
January 20, 2014 @ 6:52 pm
‘Rated X’ went to #1 on the country charts and ‘The Pill’ went to #5 so they got plenty of radio support as did virtually every single of hers in her peak years. And of course Tammy Wynette was always associated with ‘Stand By Your Man’ because it is one of the greatest country songs of all time by whatever list you choose but she had a number of songs about the struggles of women in poor relationships that were very counter to the traditional sensibilities of country music even for the late sixties early seventies. You can’t judge Hall Of Fame caliber artists by their most well known song alone.
January 20, 2014 @ 7:05 pm
Interesting. I had read somewhere that “The Pill” was banned by several country stations, so it comes as a surprise that the song charted that high.
However, this still does not negate the importance of the first impression. How would “Rated X” or “The Pill” have done with country audiences if they had not already formed a pre-existing positive image of her due to “Coal Miner’s Daughter”? How would Tammy Wynette’s songs about bad relationships have done if they had not been accompanied by “Stand by Your Man”?
That is the fundamental difference between them and Kacey Musgraves. With Kacey, there are many songs with a critical view of tradition but virtually none that praise the idea of rootedness. As Adrian has argued, this might be turning off country fans.
Take for example the first two lines of “Merry Go Round”:
“If you ain’t got 2 kids by 21, you’re probably going to die alone, at least that’s what tradition told you. And it don’t matter if you don’t believe, come Sunday morning you best be there in the front row like you’re s’posed to”
For someone with my cultural views, that may seem like a novel and bold lyric. However, most country fans would probably see it as sanctimonious and irreverent, akin to Obama’s 2008 comment about guns and religion.
Here’s the key to success in any genre: know your audience.
January 20, 2014 @ 7:17 pm
Wynette had already charted with ‘Your Good Girl’s Gonna Go Bad’ (her 2nd single), ‘I Don’t Wanna Play House’ and ‘D-I-V-O-R-C-E’ before ‘Stand By Your Man’. She was truly brilliant on so many levels along with Loretta Lynn and Dolly Parton she really opened up so many doors for female artists to sing about more personal topics that were a window into what it meant to be a woman in that particular time. But you are absolutely correct about knowing your audience which is why a more standard single would help to open her other stuff to a bigger audience.
January 20, 2014 @ 4:54 pm
I think this is kind of short sighted thinking on the part of the label. They release three offbeat singles (two of which were very good I think, not a fan of ‘Arrow’ at all)which not surprisingly fail to break big then they totally go in another direction with this tour. The fact is they have never released a more standard single to radio to see what would happen then.
This is also a little of the immediate gratification thinking of our society. They tried one way then quickly change directions and if that doesn’t spur sales then what? And this seems to me to be a sure sign that she will be tailoring future music away from country stylistically.
January 20, 2014 @ 5:06 pm
As Windmills Country pointed out, the record label does not have control over tours the way it does over single releases.
January 20, 2014 @ 6:43 pm
Yes and as Trigger pointed out they do foot the bill for a lot of the support of these tours. As for the singles if they let a newbie artist releasing their first album have say over single selection then that is very unwise.
I just think with a little patience she could have a breakthrough like Miranda Lambert who had critical praise but not much chart success until her third album I think, or was it fourth? That’s what I meant by instant gratification.
January 20, 2014 @ 8:06 pm
Miranda got plenty of attention with her debut album, including a t20 single in “Kerosene” which felt like an even bigger hit than its chart peak would have you think. On her sophomore album, she had another t15 single (“Famous In A Small Town”) and her 1st t10 hit, the high profile hit “Gunpowder & Lead”. Like Kacey, Miranda’s album sales for those 1st couple of albums were stronger for the amount of airplay she was getting than others getting more airplay. Ironically, it’s Miranda’s last album, where she got the most radio support of her career, that’s been the weakest seller. But that’s mostly because they released some tepid to outright bad singles like “Over You,” “Fastest Girl In Town,” and “Baggage Claim” (which were the 1st 3 singles from the album).
I don’t think there’s an instant gratification problem at play with Kacey any more than there was with Miranda, to be honest. Kacey may be stirring more conversation just because of the contrast between the quality of her work and the awfulness of the Luke Bryan/Florida-Georgia Line/Blake Shelton/bro country stuff that dominated the charts in 2013.
January 20, 2014 @ 8:23 pm
Well album sales are down for just about everybody so that doesn’t mean much. By instant gratification I’m talking about the labels have basically given up on the concept of career development. If an acts first single doesn’t break big they are often dumped or pushed to the side. In today’s environment we would probably not see Reba McEntire or Vince Gill find success. Reba had been putting out records for four years before she had a top ten and seven before her first number one. Vince Gill bounced around for most of the 1980s before ‘When I Call Your Name’ took him to superstar levels but in this environment both these acts would very well have been consigned to the scrap heap of failed artists.
January 21, 2014 @ 5:31 am
Scotty J,
I think what you said is very key, and probably the most important point underlying this conversation.
Major label artists nowadays have so little time to prove themselves, and corporate radio is mostly a controlled, closed system. It seems like there is a tremendous amount of pressure for an artist like Kacey Musgraves to sink or swim immediatley.
I’m not sure if this situation is analagous, but I’ve been always been amazed how long it took Willie Nelson to break through into radio as a recording artist. And when he did, it was because of a 30-year old song he didn’t write.
January 20, 2014 @ 5:16 pm
What happened to letting the music speak for itself
Probably the same thing that happened to it in general ”” that is, that it fell by the wayside in favor of only God knows what. I think Nashville by and large has forgotten how to market people like Kacey Musgraves anymore, because she’s not a dude wearing a backwards ballcap singing about trucks, beer, and whatnot.
Not sure how I feel about this theory they might be advancing that KM would be a gateway drug. Even if she is closer to country than the likes of Taylor Swift or Florida-Georgia Line, as the old saying goes, close only counts in horseshoes & hand grenades. I do like Kacey Musgraves quite a bit, but she’s still a ways from the likes of Loretta Lynn. You never know, though.
January 20, 2014 @ 5:24 pm
I’m a huge fan of Katy Perry’s cans.
January 20, 2014 @ 5:28 pm
Ok my $.02 on Kacy.
I think she is talented both as a singer and a songwriter, BUT I think she needs to stop selling her body so much. I know that is very difficult in this day in age but I think she needs to be more about the music than the tight jeans or shorts she wears in videos. I think folks may take her a bit more seriously if she does not look like a party girl at a southern football game.
Some of her songs are too cute for me but that is just me. I can be a stickler at times.
But as for this tour with Katy perry. I do not know what to think of it. I think if a country artist had to show case our genre to other people then she is as good as any to do that.I’d rather people think country music is like Kacy than having them think FGL or Jason aldean is country.
Another $.02.. has anyone seen the luke bryan video for “Drink a beer”?? IS it just me or is the back up singer with long hair a thousand times better than luke bryan????
January 20, 2014 @ 5:30 pm
sorry its Kacey.
January 20, 2014 @ 7:08 pm
I’ve only seen Kacey show off her long long LONG legs a couple of times. You’re talking like she’s out there wearing nothing when that, quite frankly isn’t the case.
So you want to punish Kacey for the fact that you can tell she’s a woman? Right.
Get out of of 1957, my friend.
January 20, 2014 @ 7:13 pm
I think you are misunderstanding Kacey’s personality. She is an anti-conformist. The more that you and others tell her to dress in a “proper” way, the more she is going to dress in the opposite manner.
January 20, 2014 @ 8:40 pm
I don’t know there Eric. Lady Gaga is a (complete nut job) non-conformist. I’ve never noticed Kacey Dress in anything but a fairly conservative way (aside from showing off her legs). What she normally wears on stage would fit right in at a Honky Tonk.
January 20, 2014 @ 8:44 pm
Kacey does not yet feel the need to make a statement through fashion. If she receives criticism for her current style, though, her defiant streak may push her in the direction of Lady Gaga.
January 21, 2014 @ 12:11 am
If I gave a damn what she wore on stage I would look at pictures of her instead of listen to her music
January 20, 2014 @ 7:20 pm
saw her in Seattle with Eli Young, Eric Church and Kenny. She’s a great songwriter and is way beyond the Carrie Underwood/Taylor Swift pop country that gets played. She openly said that she likes Katy and respects the fact that she pays attention to all kinds of music. Another thing is being an artist the idea is to get the music that you soulfully create in front of as many people as possible without letting someone else call the shots for you…I stand behind her in this but if time turns her music into the same old washed up shit I hear from many female (and male) artists then that will be a sad day because she really does have potential to blaze a new trail
January 20, 2014 @ 8:18 pm
FWIW, If Carrie Underwood would have sang Perry’s “Roar” with banjo, mandolin, and distorted guitar licks in it then the association would have pushed it for country music song of the year.
January 20, 2014 @ 8:31 pm
“You can”™t say they aren”™t trying, and trying in an industry that is notoriously suspicious of change and slow to implement it …”
This irony of this statement is quite sad. The labels are slow to embrace change in marketing but don’t hesitate to crap all over the music itself.
Also, what “look” did Kacey give when the nominees were announced, Trigger? I didn’t hear about that one.
January 20, 2014 @ 8:37 pm
Here’s my prediction about Kacey Musgraves:
Her themes will keep her in a marginal position among the country fan base. She will eventually tire of this and her tour with Katy Perry will show her the potential that she has if she goes pop. As a result, she will begin to increasingly market her songs to pop fans. In order to break through on pop radio, her music will shift from traditional country to pop-country/roots-rock (and occasionally even outright pop, like Taylor’s 3 Max Martin/Shellback songs) while maintaining the theme of free-living that will prove very popular in the pop world.
Ultimately, the question is whether she is more wedded to lyrical principle or to sonic principle. To gain relevancy on country radio, she has to sacrifice the former, and to make a mark in pop, she has to sacrifice the latter. My sense is that Kacey, like Taylor Swift and most other songwriters, values lyrics more than music.
Bottom line: enjoy the trad-country version of Kacey Musgraves while it lasts.
January 20, 2014 @ 8:48 pm
One Katy Perry aspect is that Katy Perry is back dating her womanizing creepy boyfriend (the one that kicked Taylor Swift to the curb). Taylor Swift (relationship wise) has always been immature, petty and kind of nuts really. Now Kacey is up directly against Taylor for a Grammy Slot (as the writer of Mama’s Broken Heart) and directly up against Taylor’s little red headed buddy for best new artists (Chucky or Opie Cunning Ham – whatever you call him).
Considering Kacey is kind of an outsider in a way and supportive of gays, she’s right up Taylor Swifts alley too but I’ve never seen Taylor lift a finger to help Kacey (yet any time a camera is pointed her way she gushes about how “Cruise” is the greatest country song she’s ever heard”. I bet she gets paid every time she does that.
I’ve got both my fingers crossed Taylor doesn’t win anything at the Grammy’s. “RED” was not a country album and “Everything Has Changed” was not a country song in the slightest way.
January 20, 2014 @ 8:56 pm
According to the tabloids, Taylor has generally been dumped by her boyfriends, not the other way around.
Also, why should Taylor “help” Kacey? What connection do the two of them have?
Finally, if “Red” does not deserve Album of the Year, then which of the other nominees does? Sara Bareilles or one of the 3 hip-hop/electronic albums?
January 21, 2014 @ 6:13 am
Because “there’s a special place in hell for women that don’t stick up for other women”. Ha if anyone watched the Golden Globe awards, I thought it was interesting that Taylor Swift was blacklisted from being shown on camera. Normally at award shows there’s a dedicated Taylor Swift cam but they somehow purposely prevented her from being see on shots of the crowd.
You could say that Taylor Swift more than anyone took Tegan & Sarah from obscurity as Indie artists into main stream by supporting them and taking them on tour. Taylor Swift has done some other bizarre stuff like showing up on The Voice to give support to the very bizarre (and hard to look at while performing) Michelle Chamuel.
Really Taylor Swift doesn’t really do anything to support country in general (unless it’s FGL or Tim McGraw). If Taylor Swift seriously cared about Country she’d be helping out people like Ashley Monroe and Kacey Musgraves. The only thing country about Taylor Swift is the country sticker she throws on top of her pop music.
January 21, 2014 @ 7:31 am
Are you blaming Taylor for something that is not her job?, she has a record label and if you don’t know, Taylor is a big fan of Kacey’s music.
January 21, 2014 @ 8:20 am
Yeah, I guess donating 4 MILLION dollars to the Country Music Hall of Fame isn’t really doing anything to support country music…
January 21, 2014 @ 10:14 am
Lord, I can’t stand people that fall for propaganda.
Taylor Swift coughing up 4 Million is like most of us buying someone lunch. Everything Taylor Swift does is about her ego. Now she has a giant section of the country music museum with her name on it on pictures of her up all over the place (if you can’t be country, just buy your way in). If she really did this for the good of music education, 4 Million would have gone a lot further as a public education fund to help out all the schools that have been forced to cut music education programs over the last few years. The publicity this ‘act’ generated was also a solid PR investment at a time when her album is played out and she’s under more scrutiny (and backlash) for not really being ‘country’. Everything Taylor Swift is calculated.
January 21, 2014 @ 12:09 pm
LOL, so in your opinion if Taylor does nothing then she is not “helping”, but if she actually helps, then it’s just for “publicity”?
Apparently, Taylor cannot win as far as you are concerned.
January 21, 2014 @ 12:20 pm
Good point, Eric. The gall of Swift, donating “lunch money” to the Country HoF. Some people just gotta bitch, lot easier than, say, donating in kind. Sorry you hate me, Phil, I ain’t that bad a guy, really…
January 21, 2014 @ 3:15 pm
There’s a big difference between doing nothing and using propaganda to pretend to be doing something for different reasons. She did not donate money to the Country Music Museum out of generosity or concern over music education. There’s far better ways to spend that kind of money for such a purpose.
There have been dozens of Country stars that have donated big money to the Country Music Museum without a carefully crafted media frenzy surrounding their donations or a whole wing named after them (with posters of their faces plastered all over the wall).
People that fall for hype without being able to see the reality beyond the propaganda are so freaking annoying. You’re just like those idiot teenager girls running around defending all of Justin Beibers moronic actions. Why the hell are you even on this site if you’re in love with Taylor Swift?
January 21, 2014 @ 1:45 pm
To be fair, since I’ve read the actual article, not the cropped quote by blogs, her actual reaction to the joke is not that, actually. Not unlike Bobby Bones/Kacey situation. But let’s put an end to this one.
And to be honest, all those stuffs you said about “publicity” or “raising her ego.” Well, criticising is easy indeed. At worst, at least she actually did something than just ‘advocating people’. Then again, there are stories that you could find on fan-forums/blogs that are enough to make me think it’s all genuine, even if she does that to feel better herself. Let’s not fight the good fight.
Last one, what is the quote about Taylor saying FGL’s (ugh) “Cruise” (ughughugh) being the best Country song she ever heard? I think I only read the quote about how catchy it is. There’s a difference between “catchy” and “great,” you know?
Quick fact-checking though: T&S were not opening act, they were special guest.
January 21, 2014 @ 3:46 pm
It’s not just the CMHOF donation. Taylor Swift has consistently been named the most charitable celebrity by various news outlets. She also goes out of her way to play one-on-one shows for gravely ill fans (with very little fanfare, often reported only by local news when the families of those ill fans report it to the media).
If you cannot see the difference between Taylor Swift and Justin Bieber, especially with Bieber’s recent antics, then I feel sorry for you.
January 21, 2014 @ 7:33 pm
Not a fan of the John Mayer jab. He’s had his life on track for a few years now and, according to his friends, has made a complete 180 on how he treats people since he moved to a more secluded area (he apparently lives on a ranch in Montana most of the time, now). They say he couldn’t handle the constant media coverage and it changed him. Apparently he’s back to his old self now that he’s not constantly under the spotlight.
Aside from that, his last two albums have been fantastic after the POS that was Battle Studies. He’s adopted a nice Americana/Alt Country sound that works for him and still shows up his guitar chops. I miss the blues rock, but at least he’s releasing great music again.
January 20, 2014 @ 9:40 pm
This underscores what I’ve been cautioning all along.
Musgraves has enjoyed this unprecedented (at least in all recent memory) hype among females in country music that, consequentially, has only left sky-high expectations for her to live up to on a commercial level…………..which she, sadly, has failed to accomplish thus far with respectable (though underwhelming) album and digital single sales.
Now, if she continues to fail to fulfill these imposed expectations, the standard narrative will be one of disappointment or failed opportunity. Then the luster will wear off and Musgraves will surely stick around, though be relegated to the ranks of songwriter and cult favorite outside of the country music circuit.
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This is where Katy Perry comes in.
Part of the reason she’s touring with Katy Perry is actually quite obvious: she has been co-writing songs with her recently. Beyond this, however, it underscores the reality that Musgraves has been more popular outside of the core country listening demographic than within it all along, despite the near-unanimous praise among year-end lists easily persuading you to believe otherwise.
The bottom line is this: Musgraves has been deified this entire last year by critics and much of the press as a saviour in country music: someone who will empower women back into the format and dispense of the frat-boy country zeitgeist. In spite of this incessant drumbeat, results have been quite modest with Musgraves yet to collect a Top Ten hit and an RIAA-certified album. The Grammy hype is unlikely to change matters save an inevitable one-week “bounce” following the awards’ telecast this coming Sunday.
She will still have another shot at carving a niche for herself onto mainstream waters with a highly-publicized lead single off of her sophomore major label album that is likely to have a more polished sound. If that fails though, I think my initial prediction will all but certainly come true: she’ll have a bright future ahead as a songwriter, but will never break out beyond cult sensation status as a lead performer.
January 20, 2014 @ 9:58 pm
Great points.
Interesting spelling of “saviour”, by the way…
January 20, 2014 @ 10:02 pm
Perhaps Noah is a Brit? Or he just likes colorful language!
January 20, 2014 @ 10:11 pm
It would interest you to note Musgraves has more British fans that most any other country artist would ever dream to have across the Atlantic! ^__^
January 20, 2014 @ 10:14 pm
Then maybe she is their saviour!!!!
January 20, 2014 @ 10:19 pm
I beg to differ, Kenny Rogers is still a major sex symbol in Belfast.
January 20, 2014 @ 9:43 pm
Where do I even begin? This cult of Kacey Musgraves has gotten out of control. There seems to be a certain segment of the population of country fans that think this girl is an amazing pixie princess poet. Yet, her songs are not deep or even show the desire of attainment to depth. She may be interesting, but then again watching a Bigfoot documentary at 2:00 in the morning is interesting. Although, I must confess the former seems to have more myth built around it than the later.
To call Musgraves cutting edge for simply writing about kissing girls, smoking dope, and yelling at Baptists at the local flea-market as you search in vain for the most ironic T-shirt that flatters one”™s figure, is an insult to songs that actually have substance and tell a story. Let”™s be honest, is anyone even shocked by two girls kissing anyway? Hell, my 90 year old Great-Aunt has been watching soap operas for the last twenty years that have two women having sex. We have two States that legalized weed and the other 48 will follow; and making fun of Baptists is so 2005.
If you compare Musgraves to Dolly or Loretta at the same points in their careers with crafting, phrasing and overall musical ability you will see that this young woman truly does belong on a Katy Perry tour. She fits right into the navel gazing scene that has thus far dominated her career.
January 20, 2014 @ 10:22 pm
I think it is unwise to fully dismiss Musgraves. I do agree with many of her fans and believers that she has the potential to play a leading role in breaking apart the frat-boy country rut in the format in favor of more impressionable and intimate output.
However, I will say this. I am utterly baffled as to how many reviewers placed “Follow Your Arrow” at the top of their Year-End Lists. I may actually consider that the single most overrated country single of 2013, despite the fact it’s still superior to at least 85% of what else was released that calendar year. Yet, I still couldn’t help but feel the record just didn’t live up to its hype. The songwriting is absolutely juvenile, lazily built on associative binaries and, most notably, especially in comparison to the better-written “All Kinds of Kinds”, doesn’t really strike me as a convincing anthem about inclusivity and succumbs to grossly simplistic “us. versus them” tribalism at one too many moments in the lyrics.
Yes, Musgraves offers an effective nuanced vocal performance and the production has a comely, engaging and whimsical drive to it………….but I just didn’t view it nearly as revolutionary and excellent as virtually every other reviewer beyond this site did. I’m STILL scratching my head in light of all of that. I also wouldn’t have rated the respective album in my personal Top Ten (it would probably rank between #15-#25).
On first impressions, yes, I do understand the appeal of Kacey Musgraves. But it doesn’t diminish my view that Brandy Clark, Ashley Monroe and Caitlin Rose each delivered superior albums, as well as superior individual cuts. Yet, in comparison, neither of those three received even one-tenth of the hype and marketing Musgraves received.
January 20, 2014 @ 11:05 pm
That is a fair assessment, I honestly tried in vain that if I listened long enough, the album would grow on me and I could somehow enjoy Musgraves. Yet, as you stated the album lacked and at many moments seemed forced. The snare that Musgraves has fallen into seems to be attending too many writer’s workshops. You can almost hear her drawing upon them at every uninspired moment. Her songs can be clever, but at far too many instances her voice screams an almost self-importance feigning phrases with pouting manufactured angst.
The frat boys will always make music, and that music will always sell, but we ought not to look at it as a zero-sum game. There will be fine artists in the mainstream once again. Everything comes full cycle.
January 21, 2014 @ 12:31 pm
Finally someone said it. Thank you, OliverB.
January 20, 2014 @ 9:52 pm
I’ve held off commenting for a bit. Letting things marinate and reading some very interesting responses.
While everyone is focusing on the micro (Kacey Musgraves hitting the road with Katy Perry), most seem to be missing the macro.
That is where the experiment in the title comes into play. If this thing with Kacey and Katy is successful, what does that say about the current state of country music?
If one of the brightest young potential stars of country has to go outside the genre to gain success, country music, as a genre, is well on its way down the path of disco, i.e., becoming irrelevant.
Personally, I’m not opposed to the Kacey/Katy pairing. If both see a benefit, good for them. If this becomes a trend, where good country artists are forced to find other avenues, then it becomes alarming.
January 21, 2014 @ 6:18 am
Nah… you’re looking at it all wrong.
Real Country Music is still alive and well in the independent Texas music scene. We even have our own local dedicated country music TV shows and such (such as: http://www.ktxdtv.com/category/263273/lone-star-roads).
January 21, 2014 @ 5:42 pm
I’m well aware of the Texas country music scene. I can, on any Friday or Saturday night (and some Tuesdays and Wednesdays), drive five minutes and see the likes of Jason Boland, Brian McKinney, Kyle Park, Uncle Lucious, the Rankin Twins, Bri Bagwell, Wade Bowen, Phil Hamilton, etc., and on occasion, Ray Wylie Hubbard. We have a thriving Texas country scene. And a local radio station devoted entirely to Texas country. And the others all play Texas country tracks.
My comment was strictly related to the national/Nashville perspective.
January 20, 2014 @ 10:00 pm
To an extent I can understand why so many people tend to view Kacey as a gimmicky singer. Let’s say you have never heard the album and only somewhat pay attention to things that are said about her and don’t go out of your way to listen to her singles. You probably hear the first single because, it was one that everyone was talking about. “Okay, it’s a song about how much small towns suck” (I know, it’s not really saying that, but that’s how a lot of people are taking it). Then you start hearing the stories: “OMG she has a song about lesbians and drugs!!” And then instead of hearing the actual song, what you end up seeing and hearing is that mash up with “California Love” that was posted pretty much everywhere, thereby taking a song about “smoking harmless tobacco!” (to quote Mr. Burns) and then without even hearing the real song you think: “Yep, drug song, I knew it”. Then you end up watching the CMAs or just reading about them, and “oh look, there is she getting censored, man what a troublemaker she is! I knew I was right to not pay any attention to her. I’m gonna go back to listening to FGL and Luke Bryan, at least they have good morals!” And then the Bobby Bones thing. “There she is, causing more problems!”
If a person doesn’t listen to the album, if a person just reads the headlines while ignoring the in depth stories, that’s what they are going to see. A singer who is going out of her way to tell people how wrong they are about things and who likes to cause problems. Now, we know this is not true because we don’t just go by what we see on social media. We have listened to the album and read the articles explaining the headlines, but a lot of people never bother to do that. And so they see her differently than we do. I know her singles resonate well with her fans and it seems like those would be good songs to release, but are they resonating well with the rest of the population? It doesn’t really seem like it.
January 20, 2014 @ 11:31 pm
I think it comes down to a strategic marketing decision for Kacey and her label. They can sell the music, or they can sell the message.
Selling the music means releasing the best country songs she can, to build her reputation with traditional country fans. It would be in her best interest to avoid sensitive political and cultural issues until she has established her reputation as an artist. The downside of this strategy is that an artist must stay at the top of her game and continue to record great music in order to have continued success.
Selling the message means creating a persona that a large group of fans can identify with. Such a message must be repeated frequently to stick. When fans buy an artist’s music because of identity politics, the bar is set much lower for the quality of music. The artist does not have to produce great music; she just has to express the feelings of that identity group. Identity-based fans are loyal and will keep buying as long as their own identity has not changed.
The decisions of Kacey and her label are consistent with the strategy of selling the message. I’d guess that they are trying to target young listeners. Most music acts that are popular with young people succeed because of identity politics, rather than the artistic quality of the music. I think they want to make Kacey the “follow on drug” for Taylor Swift fans, or at least make her “Taylor Swift for college girls”.
I predict that Kacey will not have major success at country radio, and will end up in the pop/rock genre.
January 21, 2014 @ 12:12 am
Good thoughts.
April 17, 2025 @ 4:51 am
Nailed it, Adrian.
SCM misses your insights.
January 21, 2014 @ 4:34 am
I don’t want to come across as flippant, but to me (someone who lives in the UK and therefore is on the outside looking in to some extent), Musgraves has quite clearly been on this track to pop for some time. And what’s more, she wants to be.
I really don’t understand where this reputation for edginess and authenticity has come from with her. Look at the cover of her album. Listen to the lyrics in ‘her’ songs. She’s a pop star being groomed as such by Nashville, as they try to push country music as far into the pop world as possible for the sake of the $. And Kacey is quite happy to go along with that.
January 21, 2014 @ 6:22 am
It’s sad when we’re over here complaining about the state of country and ya’ll over in the UK can’t even get any country support at all. I remember a couple months back seeing some big street march over there in support of getting more country music in the UK or something.
January 21, 2014 @ 4:45 am
here in the Philippines they started playing Blowin’ Smoke and Follow Your Arrow on rock/alternative radio. But then again so is The Lumineers, Mumford and Sons, The Avett Brothers, and Old Crow’s Wagon Wheel (somehow they prefer this 9-year old version than Darius Rucker).
Other artists that got played on our rock radio are Lorde, Capital Cities, and Empire of the Sun.
I don’t think all these artists have a chance on rock radio back in the 90s or the 80s. I believe the genre labeling is just a word. Personally as a music fan i don’t care much about what the music is called or who they’re touring with for as long as they don’t start dumbing down their contents, substance and style to appeal to bigger audiences.
January 21, 2014 @ 4:52 am
I don’t know the politics of radio and labels with regards to singles but there’s this alternative rock show in Birmingham, Alabama called Reg’s Coffeehouse on Birmingham Mountain Radio 107.3 FM (and online) that plays non-single songs from Same Trailer Different Park (as well as other albums from other artists. that’s where I heard most of Lorde’s and Bastille’s songs). I wonder if that kind of programming didn’t violate any rules? And what if a certain radio station would start playing non-single song and the song get a positive response?
January 21, 2014 @ 6:55 am
I agree with “Ags”.She wants to be a pop star,her music is along the lines of pop music,so let her be a pop star.Let Katy and all her tweenie “Katy Cats” have her,it’s where she belongs.Let that classic country music blogger Perez Hilton go on about how great she is and lets start talking about someone else.
Maybe Katy will let her wear her Obama dress.,,Eye of the tiger,RoaRrRrrr!
January 21, 2014 @ 7:55 am
What’s that thing in her nose?
January 21, 2014 @ 4:05 pm
That is something oft-referred to as a “nose ring”! 😉
I have two on my right nostril! 😉
January 21, 2014 @ 8:42 am
I need to hear more our of Kacey as an artist before I form any big opinion on her. I thought she had some really well written songs on her first big release, but I also thought a lot of the album seemed to sound a lot alike. It was almost like I was listening to the same song again, but it wasn’t the same song, however I do think it was a good solid album. I have not forgot that Kacey, like Miranda started on Nashville Star and so a part of me is a little curious about her. I’m not sure that this whole image with Kacey is not a plan by the label. The only thing that makes me think otherwise is that she does have some good songs. I don’t understand though why she was given such a push and Ashley Monroe was not. I do know early on that a lot of left leaning artists wer really promoting Kacey on twitter, with Katy Perry being one of those. In today’s media it really does pay off to lean way left on social issues, so it is possible that this is something that helped really skyrocket Kacey over someone like Ashley. I think she is a lock to win most of the awards at the Grammy’s, due to the fact that the entertainment industry is very left leaning. The same way Grammy voters wanted to stick it to country music and voted for the Dixie Chicks to win all those grammy’s that one year. My judgement is still reserved on Kacey, but there is just part of that feels like I am not seeing exactly who Kacey is yet. Time will tell.
January 21, 2014 @ 9:03 am
Let’s address the 800 lbs gorilla about why Kacey Musgraves has had a major promotion over other female artists that a far more deserving. I have been trying to avoid this, because I have already been called a misogynist 30 times this week and it is only Tuesday, but truth be told, it’s because Kacey Musgraves is far more attractive than Ashley Monroe or Caitlin Rose.
True fans of music like the majority of people here, couldn’t give a damn what an artist looks like, but executives do. They want something marketable that will give there label publicity, having an attractive singer-songwriter is far more lucrative than having a singer-songwriter. Commercials, magazine covers,movies, tv appearances all ensure greater album sales, this is far easier to do with an attractive artist. That’s show business…
January 21, 2014 @ 12:37 pm
“Kacey Musgraves is far more attractive than Ashley Monroe”
Ridiculous.
I am not familiar enough with Caitlin Rose, but Ashley Monroe actually looks more like a classic country beauty than does Kacey Musgraves (i.e. Ashley looks British, whereas Kacey looks more French).
The real reason that Kacey has been more successful than Ashley or Caitlin is because of the catchiness and the controversial nature of her songs. That does not mean that her songs are necessarily better, but it does mean that they grab more attention from the listener.
January 21, 2014 @ 1:22 pm
This is why I hesitated to write that. There is no way I could state this without sounding like a d-bag, and for the record all three women are out of my league. Kacey Musgraves though is like a robot created by Nashville record executives for the express purpose of appealing to 18-31 demographics. She resembles a brunette Carrie Underwood, has bangs like Zoe Dechanel, and mostly gives of that “Girls” vibe in her personality. I’m not going to argue which artist is hotter, but before one attacks me check out her vapid twitter page talking about shoes and ball gowns.
Finally, Catlin and Ashley have far catchier songs. Musgraves big hit Merry Go Round is just a lyrical rip-off of the classic Time Goes On.
January 21, 2014 @ 1:27 pm
Sorry, the song I referenced should be called Time Marches On, haven’t heard it in a few years.
January 21, 2014 @ 2:25 pm
Again, I am not familiar enough with Caitlin Rose to evaluate her work. I have heard Ashley Monroe’s album, though. The songs there are probably better than those in “Same Trailer Different Park”, but none of them are as earworm-catchy as “Follow Your Arrow” or as jarring as “Merry Go Round”.
January 21, 2014 @ 4:40 pm
Are we sure Kacey got more promotion than Ashley to start out? I was thinking Ashley was on an indie label but I guess it’s Warner. Maybe radio played Kacey because her first single was different from everything else and it’s definitely one of the catchiest of 2013. Plus the music is more pop leaning or sounds less country than Ashley’s more traditional album. When I heard Same Trailer I thought great song but I wish the steel were more than just barely there. It’s possible her label watered it down for radio. It happens and radio plays more pop these days. They also look at sales and surveys. The only new women I recall radio playing in 2013 are Kacey, Sheryl, and the 2 girls on team Blake. Three are with Universal and Sheryl with OLD GREEN BARN/SEA GAYLE/WARNER BROS./WMN. Sheryl isn’t hotter than Ashley but she’s a pop star, her debut country single is poppy and that’s why she released it. Radio should have played Ashley and Kellie Pickler too. Kellie’s Someone Somewhere Tonight topped a songs that should have been hits in 2013 list and Chris Stapleton is #2. I haven’t heard of Caitlin pursuing radio or releasing a single.
January 21, 2014 @ 10:01 am
She needs a new PR team. I’ve been saying that since the awards show where everyone was focused on a “flat affect”…and her interview with Bones.
I’m watching American Idol because Harry Connick is a good critic. The team keeps repeatedly saying “you have the whole package thing going for you”.
Looks, a great head of hair will get you anywhere and charisma….marketing tools.
She can go on the road with Katie. What’s going to happen when they put them side by side for that charisma comparison? It’s a bad move.
January 21, 2014 @ 10:41 am
Rachel, it’s not just about the PR. It is a more fundamental question about her goals and priorities as an artist. Her liberal message seems to be very important to her. She can try to get conservative country fans to become liberal (almost impossible), get liberal pop music fans to like country music (hard), or adjust her musical style and cross over to pop (easier).
January 21, 2014 @ 11:43 am
Her liberal message seems to be very important to her
Yes, because of one song on the album that talks about kissing girls and smoking a doob. Good Christ. No wonder so many people don’t take conservatives seriously.
January 21, 2014 @ 10:54 am
I don’t see this as a positive necessarily, but what were her other realistic options? Should could have stayed in the country fold, but to get exposed to a bigger audience, that probably means she opens on a tour for a country hip-hop-bro singer like FGL or Jason Aldean, or a bland/generic singer (like, say, co-label mate Jennifer Nettles). This is what, for example, SCM favorite (rightly so) Kellie Pickler is doing – opening for Toby Keith and Eli Young band on a jaunt through Australia. Or, she plays 500-1000 seat venues – schlepping around a month to see as many people as she will at one Katy Perry concert. In an ideal world there would be an authentic superstar where she would be the perfect opening act – like Rayna James on Nashville – but that is TV. Look, as much as I respect Kacey her target audience is probably closer to Katy Perry’s than ‘old farts and jackasses” like me any many here.
I’d also add that Katy Perry is also on Universal Music Group. She is a much bigger selling artist than Kacey. As much as we have focussed on Kacey here you can be assured that there was probably a much much greater focus at Universal on ‘who should open for Katy’ than ‘who should Kasey open for’. Follow the money…
January 21, 2014 @ 12:07 pm
This is more of the same artist-record company drama which eminates from Nashville, the former home of country music.
Another promising artist who foresakes country music to pursue big money.
I feel like telling the Nashville music establishment what Davey Crocket’s told Congress, “You can go to hell, I’m going to Texas.”
January 21, 2014 @ 12:36 pm
How appropriate is the name of that tour? For once the guys are actually honest. As far as Kacey goes, I love her, she is a great musician. I tend to follow the rule: “I like a separation of politics and sports and politics and music”. I love the Rolling Stones, Aerosmith, Toby Keith (to an extent) and others that would not agree with me politically. If you can write good music, and don’t try to shove it down my throat I am okay with you musically.
January 21, 2014 @ 2:06 pm
I keep seeing Ashley Monroe vs. Kacey Musgraves and all I can think is “why not both?”
There’s room for more than one female country artist on my playlist.
When I first Merry Go Round on the radio last spring, it was like a breath of fresh air. I looked up who sang it, and I’ve enjoyed discovering Kacey and “Same Trailer Different Park.” Yes, some questionable choices have been made with singles, but I still have hope for the future.
This tour with Katy Perry can only help Kacey, and that’s the important thing. I don’t see her changing because Pop music doesn’t really suit her personality or her style. Yes, it’s an indictment of country music that Kacey can’t tour with someone in the genre, but “It Is What It Is.” A good spot for her would’ve been opening for George Strait on his farewell tour. Despite having different views on things, George and her have similar personalities that can be taken wrongly by idiots like Bobby Bones.
I’m looking forward to Kacey’s second album. I hope this time they save some of her stronger material for her own album. It’s much like Gunner on Nashville, you have to pick your poison: keep your best stuff for yourself and run the risk of it underperforming or never getting heard, or give it to the rising star and watch them have the success. “Mama’s Broken Heart” would’ve been good for her.
In conclusion, I don’t see why we have to choose one or two promising young females over the other. I want them all to do well. The genre needs more than one. The powers that be may not have chosen your darling, but at least they’ve chosen one. That’s a step in the right direction. Hopefully.
January 21, 2014 @ 2:32 pm
I disagree. I don’t think George Strait’s tour would be a good fit for Kacey. Most George Strait fans are culturally conservative older people who love rural America and never want to leave. I think “Merry Go Round” is a good song but it is the wrong message for Strait’s fan base.
I think Kacey might find a better fit as an acoustic folk/soft rock artist playing on pop or mainstream alternative radio stations.
January 21, 2014 @ 2:38 pm
In my opinion, she will end up following the Taylor Swift path to success on pop radio. The question is whether she ends up like the early Taylor Swift (pop-country) or the current Taylor Swift (almost entirely pop).
January 21, 2014 @ 2:57 pm
I think she would have to be mostly pop. To take the country pop route, an artist must be a big star on country radio first. Taylor was culturally a better fit for country radio in her early days than Kacey is. Before she dated the Kennedy boy, Taylor was perceived as culturally conservative by the media and the public (regardless of whether or not she was). Republican politicians were holding fundraisers at her concerts in 2010-2011 and she received praise from several conservative commentator. I don’t see any risk of that happening with Kacey.
January 21, 2014 @ 3:48 pm
Well put, Scotty J. I am as wingnutty as the day is long, but I still love Steve Earle and a bunch of other left-wing artists. I do so tire of the conservatives who see everything through the political lens.
January 21, 2014 @ 5:04 pm
From my perspective it is not important who a music artist that I listen to voted for. And there is nothing wrong with expressing a different point of view.
However Kacey’s single releases appear to have focused more on the message than the music. She risks being seen as trying too hard to send a cultural and political message.
January 21, 2014 @ 3:01 pm
I really have no interest in talking politics on a music site but I have to say this. This bizarre notion that ‘conservative’ people have no interest in hearing more liberal performers and messages is just plain wrong. My lord if that were the case then conservatives would never watch network TV nor go to the movies nor listen to any popular music because virtually every major entertainer is somewhere on the spectrum of the left. Do you seriously think someone would not go see George Strait because of the opening act. I mean seriously people are able to enjoy something without viewing it through a partisan political lens. Jeez!
January 21, 2014 @ 3:07 pm
Scotty, I don’t think most people go to George Strait concerts to see the opening act. But it is not clear what Kacey would add to his show. George sings about true love, God, and celebrating the heartland. In “Merry Go Round” Kacey says that people in small town America get married because they are bored. How do you think that would play with conservative George Strait fans? I think her message would turn some people off.
January 21, 2014 @ 3:16 pm
I’m sorry but conservatives are not some monolithic block that only thinks one way and can’t possibly handle another view. And some people do get married because they are bored and so what? It’s their lives. Plus Strait also sang about a woman leaving her husband in a CMA Single Of The Year winning song ‘Give It Away’ and about all his ex’s living in Texas. Did this stop conservatives from being fans of his? Of course not because they are only SONGS!!! Not all conservatives are sitting around praying all day and judging others.
January 21, 2014 @ 5:16 pm
Scotty, I think you miss the point. I listen to music from artists with a wide range of political views. If an artist is making great music and she wants to keep the focus on her music, I don’t care what her political views are. The issue I have with Kacey is that she seems to be “selling the message” more than “selling the music”. I discussed this in detail in one of my posts above.
I don’t think George Strait fans would be very interested in her cultural message, though they might be more open minded if she were to focus on the music.
January 21, 2014 @ 6:47 pm
There you go again painting with too broad a brush. Not EVERY George Strait fan is some arch conservative and I don’t know what makes you think they are. I would bet the majority would be considered apolitical if anything and wouldn’t bat an eye at hearing ‘Merry Go Round’. You had such a good post earlier in this thread about identity politics that was very good but you can’t get too broad with that. It comes off as incredibly condescending frankly. The slack jawed conservative yokels wouldn’t be interested in hearing anything outside of there preconceived notions. And I’m not missing your point I’m disagreeing with it.
January 21, 2014 @ 3:47 pm
Adrian….understood and appreciated. You are correct.
Whatever arrow she chooses to follow….if she doesn’t change up her PR, that blunted demeanor will hold her down. Call it a “flat affect” or being true to herself…placing her alongside flamboyant birds exposes that perceived flaw.
Whatever happened to Jamie Johnson? You don’t hear much about him anymore.
January 21, 2014 @ 5:06 pm
I really don’t understand the hype around Kacey Musgraves? She isn’t a great singer, and her lyrics are only praised because of the nature of her anti-conservative message. Also, these songs that she has become famous for were also written with other nashville songwriters responsible for countless hits on mainstream country. Critical praise does not mean much if you don’t have an audience that will buy/sell and support you. It seems like she is praised because she can put a clever lyric here or there and has a bad attitude. SCM seems to be up her butt so much and I just wonder why?
January 21, 2014 @ 5:16 pm
her lyrics are only praised because of the nature of her anti-conservative message
Evidence to support this, please?
January 21, 2014 @ 5:42 pm
Yeah, this is a direct quote from Bobby Bones whoever that is:
“We’re both similar people. (sic) both working with a mentality and culture that we love so much and also agree COULD US A LITTLE SOCIAL CHANGE…. (caps are to emphasize a major point), And that way I admire your voice, not your physical one, but your intellectual one.”
She jumped the shark when Village Voice compared her to Anton Chekhov.
January 21, 2014 @ 5:43 pm
Well, I would think common sense would be enough evidence, even from someone who was politically neutral. But ok I’ll spell it out.
“Word got around to the barflies and the Baptists” KM lyrics mocking people of faith
“Don’t matter if you don’t believe come Sunday mornin’ you best be in the from row like your supposed to” KM commenting on being anti religious which much of the country listening audience is very much not. I understand KM is being honest in this lyric, but if you think her label didn’t know it would be a stark contrast to what’s been traditionally understood as country, you would be wrong.
“Kiss lots of girls if that’s something your into… Roll up a joint” obviously these are buzz word lyrics but you get the message of the song really cleat, even if she cleverly used some conservative counterpoints in the lyrics. The message is decidedly that you can one or the other but being more liberal is better.
And then compare the press that have praised her work with little actual sales accolade to back it up: Perez Hilton ( very socially liberal blogger ) Rolling Stone etc.
The point is yes she is talented. But to think that political play and perception is not at work here would be naive. Even though she be unfairly tossed aside by those who disagree with her view on life/politics/message she has also been vastly celebrated not because of exceptional talent, but by those that see her as progressing the liberal/message they agree with, and it’s quite annoying as a consumer to see this.
January 21, 2014 @ 6:10 pm
But to think that political play and perception is not at work here would be naive.
Aaaaaand so what if it is or is not? Yet again, another example of why people don’t take conservatives seriously ”” it’s as if some of you see boogeymen behind every corner. Really. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
And if you’re going to give Rolling Stone’s opinion about anything any credibility whatsoever, there’s really no point in continuing this discussion.
January 21, 2014 @ 6:27 pm
Hahaha I’m not sure which country your living in, but just because you might not take conservatives seriously does not mean that “people” don’t take them seriously! How arrogant! They literally make up roughly half of the country.
Also, clearly I wasn’t promoting Rolling Stone, it was a example that you asked for. Your point of “so what if it is or if it’s not?” does not make sense to me, that’s what many comments in this thread have been about, and I think a key point in Musgraves’ career thus far. How you can find a way to blame conservatives for that is beyond me.
January 21, 2014 @ 7:00 pm
Yeees. And they are all, without question, going to try to paint a small-town East Texas country singer as some sort of progressive hero because.she talks about gay people and weed in less than thoroughly damning terms.
January 21, 2014 @ 6:13 pm
Katie,
First off, you can go through the entire canon of Saving Country Music coverage of Kacey Musgraves, and you won’t find one bit of praise, or anything that can be alluded to as praise for her “anti-conservative” message. What you will find is criticisms for her lyrics being immature and judgmental at times, which if you want to couch as being “anti-conservative,” then fine.
Also, how am I up Kacey Musgraves’ ass? Did you read this article? Because if you think the point of this article was to pick up a pair of pom-poms and start waving them for Kacey Musgraves, you completely missed the message. The point of this article when it comes to Kacey is the gross mismanagement of her career, including the choice of songs on her album, and the choices for singles they released from it. Why am I criticizing these choices? One of the reasons is because they have typecast Kacey in some circles as being pop, and anti-conservative, validated to an even greater degree each time someone leaves a comment like yours.
When it comes to mainstream country, it is my opinion that Kacey Musgraves is a better choice for music consumers than most other mainstream artists. But that doesn’t mean I think she is flawless. I think her career this far has been incredibly flawed, and that is what I am criticizing here.
January 21, 2014 @ 6:33 pm
My mistake Trigger, because I haven’t read every Article you have posted about KM, but it seems I see her name here a lot, so there must be a reason for that? To be fair, I come here every so often to read the articles but will disclose that I don’t agree a lot because I am fan of past and present country music, but I like to see other peoples view points. I just wonder why you have given numerous spotlights to musgraves, possibly hoping for someone to save the country music you think needs saving? Apologies if I am wrong, because I did read the above article, and I thought you alluded that Kacey isn’t really at fault for her career, rather her label and management.
January 21, 2014 @ 8:00 pm
I see this concern that I talk about a lot of artists all the time: Eric Church, Kacey Musgraves, Taylor Swift, Hank3, Sturgill Simpson, Shooter Jennings. Which begs the question if I’m talking about these people all the time, how do I have enough time to talk about any one of them too much?
The reason I talk about artists like Kacey Musgraves and Eric Church often is because they are artist that sit at the crossroads of the culture war, and thus make good case studies about the trends in music. The fact that this article is at 140 comments and counting proves what a polarizing figure Kacey has become, and how much interest there is in the issues surrounding her.
I’m simply following the news cycle. If Kacey had not announced a tour with Katy Perry, this article would have never been written.
Also, I don’t expect or want everyone to agree with me all the time. I love when folks disagree with me, challenge my opinions or assertions, and hope everyone feels welcome here even if they feel like my opinions fit theirs.
January 21, 2014 @ 8:15 pm
Trigger, yes she is polarizing. And she didn’t have to be polarizing. She could have just focused on making good traditional music. But then again females who record traditional country music who are not polarizing don’t tend to get much attention on country radio either. At least by being polarizing she might have a chance to become a bigger star in pop music.
You know, the libertarian in me thought “Follow Your Arrow” was cute the first time I heard it. But between references to pot, kissing girls, and comments trivializing religion, she’s accumulated enough liberal sound bites that she just seems to be trying too hard to make a statement, to be taken seriously as a music artist.
January 21, 2014 @ 7:30 pm
Hey Trigger, what do you think Kacey Musgraves management would think if they read through what this thread has devolved into?
January 21, 2014 @ 7:46 pm
I think their eyes would go cattywompus trying to follow all the different threads and avoid the whole rat’s nest altogether.
At this point is there any topic in American society that doesn’t descend into political side taking?
January 21, 2014 @ 7:53 pm
Ha! I’m not sure there is anything. I just want to listen to music and watch football not get involved in deep socio-political debates but that is starting be harder and harder.
January 21, 2014 @ 9:24 pm
Hey Trigger, I’ve been a follower of this site for quite a while and haven’t seen anything on Josh Turner. I also looked through the archives and couldn’t find much on him. What’s your opinion on his music? and do you know if he has any albums planned in the near future? Thanks for your dedication on trying to save the country music we love.
January 21, 2014 @ 10:46 pm
Have not heard any news on a new Josh Turner album yet, but my guess is we’ll hear something in the coming months.
I am always trying to feature different artists on the site as much as I can so that if someone searches the site, there’s at least something on most of the artists that fall under the country music umbrella. Just in the last three days I featured three artists I had never featured exclusively previously. Hopefully I will get around to Josh Turner soon, and a new album would help me do that.
January 21, 2014 @ 9:28 pm
The bright side of things is Kacey seems to be happy going on tour with Katy.. Says she’s a fan… At least that’s what she said on instagram… 😐 lol I don’t believe this is going to result in Kacey singing songs like “California Girls” in the future, she seems to have a lot of integrity to be caught doing something like that. But to be fair, she’s already on the pop side of alternative country, just straying away from beating up pick’em up trucks and talking about their exs. She’s about a culture and way of life and ways to be optimistic. I’ll continue to remain a fan of hers despite this weird touring troupe. Unless she degrades herself for money.. then I’ll just listen to her first album and shake my fist at her for changing.
What else can you do? hah
January 21, 2014 @ 10:41 pm
if shes goes pop, dubstep or edm i hope its as good as hayley williams stay the night
January 22, 2014 @ 10:18 pm
Artists who choose to “sell the message” and play identity politics, instead of selling the music, are mainly in it for the money, and will eventually sell out.
January 22, 2014 @ 10:39 pm
They may also be in it as missionaries for their ideology.
January 23, 2014 @ 12:07 am
That is unlikely. Usually it is a marketing message rather than an ideological message. The marketing message is designed to make a certain type of consumer purchase the artist’s music. “Bro country” does not really have an ideology, but it has a persona and a marketing message. I don’t think Taylor’s music has an ideology either, but it full of identity politics.
January 23, 2014 @ 12:55 am
“Shock Face”. :-O
January 24, 2014 @ 5:43 pm
I think touring with Katy Perry could be really good for Kacey. I’m from the Northeast, where kids have little exposure to country music, but every chance to go see Katy Perry. I’m really of the thinking that these “fifteen year old girls” that you are saying are flocking to Perry’s shows will hear Musgraves and actually enjoy what they’re listening to. She’s not so traditional to not be appealing to the masses, after all. I think that if enough people shut up in the audience to listen to her, she could have the effect of working like a gateway drug and could be a sort of initiation into country music, ESPECIALLY for those tour stops in regions where exposure to country music is minimal.
Here’s hoping they don’t find the Florida Georgia Line in the suggested videos on YouTube after they take a listen to Merry Go Round.
April 2, 2014 @ 4:58 pm
Just announced- Kacey Musgraves and Katy Pery will perform together for CMT Crossroads.
Thoughts on this, Trriggerman? Thanks.
April 2, 2014 @ 5:22 pm
Hey, if you’re going to go with Katy Perry, you might as well go all in. The point of Crossroads is to put two artists from different sides of the music world together, so this is nothing really out of the ordinary, except that Katy Perry might be the biggest star to ever be involved with it. It gets my blessing.
June 16, 2014 @ 12:38 pm
Eric, you wrote some good comments here. To thine own self be true.