Tyler Childers’ Success Following The Same Path as Sturgill Simpson’s
It’s not enough to just have one or two independent-minded artists making waves that reach the mainstream if we want to save country music. It’s going to take a whole roar of insurgent artists creating their own inertia, free from the restrictive environment on Music Row, devoid of dependence on radio or other mainstream media constructs, and turning the country music world upside down. Luckily, we’re starting to see signs of that impending tsunami forming from the broad-based nature of the artists finding major traction and success.
Sturgill Simpson rose from the obscurity of Kentucky as a traditional country singer and songwriter, all the way to being considered right beside Beyonce, Drake, Adele, and Justin Bieber for Album of the Year at the Grammy Awards. It can’t be emphasized enough how incredible this feat was. Even if Sturgill isn’t straight-down-the-middle country anymore like he was on his first couple of records, he left a blueprint for those coming behind him, and broke down barriers and opened doors in his wake.
Nobody has benefited more from the momentum of Sturgill Simpson than fellow Kentucky songwriter turned burgeoning star Tyler Childers. Sturgill co-produced his latest record Purgatory, and put him in touch with the right people to get his career on track. But now Tyler is enjoying a momentum all his own, and if anything, is even further ahead than Sturgill was at this point in his career. If our expectations hadn’t been so stretched by what we witnessed with Sturgill Simpson—and similarly with Chris Stapleton, Jason Isbell, Blackberry Smoke, Cody Jinks, Aaron Watson and others—we’d probably be getting floored by what we’re seeing from Tyler Childers at the moment. Even still it’s worth marveling over, including the eerie parallels with how Sturgill Simpson made his ascent.
The Sold Out Shows:
One of the first signs that Sturgill’s rise was more than just a groundswell in the underground affecting the club circuit was how tour dates were getting continuously blown out do to incredible demand coat to coast. Shows were selling out immediately, stops were being moved to bigger venues to accommodate more ticket sales, additional dates were being added before and after the initially-announced shows due to the higher demand, and seats on the secondary market were showing up for $300 or more.
This is exactly what we’re seeing for Tyler Childers.
In February of 2015, Saving Country Music reported about Sturgill Simpson’s theater tour at the time, “After going on a sold out club tour in the latter half of 2014, Sturgill’s next stint on the road sees him graduating to bigger clubs and many theaters to house the growing demand. But even with more capacity, many dates are selling out almost immediately, while other shows are being moved to bigger venues.”
Compare this with the news of the current tour with Tyler Childers: “As new tour dates continue to be added, many are selling out immediately, while other dates in other venues and markets are being added to meet demand, and some stops upgraded to bigger places to accommodate fans.”
Tyler Childer is also playing many of the same major festivals in many of the same slots as Sturgill did early on—fests like Stagecoach and Bonnaroo.
The Team:
Just like Sturgill Simpson, the team of Tyler Childers consists of the independent music distributor Thirty Tigers—which allows its artists unlimited creative control of their music, booking agent Jonathan Levine of the Paradigm Talent Agency who also works with Margo Price and Colter Wall, and publicist Asha Goodman of Sacks & Company. This was the exact team that put the boost behind Sturgill Simpson’s Metamodern Sounds in Country Music, and helped orchestrate his meteoric rise. Tyler’s manager is Ian Thorton as opposed to Sturgill’s manager Marc Dottore during his heyday, but the same basic personnel has been working to get Tyler Childers his traction, and succeeding.
The Sales and Streaming Numbers:
Tyler Childers is killing it with sales and streaming numbers, blowing out expectations just like Sturgill Simpson did early on, even better than where Sturgill Simpson was at this point in his career. Tyler’s album Purgatory has sold almost 40,000 copies—something we don’t even see from some 2nd tier mainstream artists in the streaming era. But Tyler’s streaming numbers are stellar as well. Just on Spotify, his song “Feathered Indians” has over 8.3 million streams, and “Whitehouse Road” has a combined 8 million.
Also, in 2014 Sturgill Simpson was nominated and won the Americana Music Awards Emerging Artist of the Year—the same award Tyler Childers is up for at the 2018 Americana Music Awards.
But this is just the beginning. Tyler Childers still hasn’t seen any big national exposure on late night talk shows or Saturday Night Live yet. As impressive as these numbers and accolades are, when he releases his next album, this is when the whole thing could act like a powder keg, just like it did with Sturgill’s second major record.
The Intangibles
Beyond all the hoopla, numbers, sold out shows, and hyperventilating media buzz by Saving Country Music and others, Tyler Childers just has that “it” factor that it takes to make an artist not just successful, but soar to heights previously thought to be unattainable for independent artists. The truth is there’s always been independent artists out there offering healthier alternatives to the mainstream, and worthy of competing. But what we’re seeing in this era is these artists actually receiving the support they deserve. They may still not win all of the major awards, but they’re able to pack houses, support families, and continue to make the music they want, keeping the ears of independent and traditional country fans happy, and giving hope for the future of country music.
Black Boots
September 6, 2018 @ 9:21 am
I kinda feel like you should write about Tyler’s success without mentioning Sturgill at least once. Just try it. Haha.
Jody
September 6, 2018 @ 9:46 am
Because all he did was produce the album that has sold 40,000 copies?
Ulysses McCaskill
September 6, 2018 @ 9:55 am
He’s good enough to stand on his own without a doubt, but Sturgill had a hand in finally getting this record off the ground and out there for the public. As I recall Tyler mentioning in an interview, they had been trying for several years without much luck and Sturgill came along and at least in part was the reason it got done.
63guild
September 6, 2018 @ 10:01 am
Yep, Sturgill’s drummer Miles heard and became friends with Tyler and got Stu involved in working with him. Tyler is good enough to stand on his own, I agree, but he will always be linked to Sturgill because of Stu’s involvement and from having very very similar KY backgrounds
Trigger
September 6, 2018 @ 1:49 pm
First off, this was not an article about how Sturgill Simpson is responsible for the success of Tyler Childers, though he did have a big hand in it, and I think both artists would agree with that assessment. This is an article explaining how peculiarly similar the ascent of the two artists have been, how they share much of the same personnel behind-the-scenes, the trajectories as far as sales and tour numbers are about the same, and what this could head to for Childers down the road if serve holds.
For some reason, folks seem to take these articles delving into the success of an artist as an insult to that artist. We saw that with a recent article on Sarah Shook. Obviously, the biggest blame goes on the artist themselves, and this goes without saying.
Benny Lee
September 6, 2018 @ 2:55 pm
I don’t see the parallels between the articles. The Sarah Shook article was really about the guy (who happened to be her ex-boyfriend) and the scene from which she took off. In this article, Sturgill is portrayed accurately as a helper and a measuring stick for Tyler.
I think some people here just love to hate Sturgill…
Black Boots
September 6, 2018 @ 5:36 pm
I know all this, but it’s just you always mention it. I think Tyler’s ascent is quicker and will ultimately be longer and larger. Tyler is gonna be a lot bigger than Sturgill, and I love Sturgill.
Marky Mark
September 6, 2018 @ 7:08 pm
…or they just can’t be bothered to read what you wrote closely. Your meaning was pretty clear; in no way did I think you were crediting sturgil in any way in this article. …but these are the same guys that take every opportunity to make an innocuous statement Into a political football, so I am not surprised.
Black Boots
September 6, 2018 @ 5:33 pm
This isn’t news. It’s just, every single time it doesn’t need to be said, I think. They’re both great, so I don’t care that much, was mostly just kidding around
Tex Hex
September 6, 2018 @ 11:32 am
Like others mentioned already, Childers can stand on his own (the talent is obvious), but I’d say Sturgill’s involvement and endorsement is a big part of his recent success. Count me as an impulse fan who got on board because of that.
Sue me, I’m also a fan of Dave Cobb’s ear and production (both with Sturgill and Stapleton) so anybody he’s working with, I automatically check out. Associations and endorsements like that help me wade through the glut of new albums (both good and bad). Same with this blog. Keep those good recommendations coming, Trigger!
Woogeroo
September 12, 2018 @ 3:20 pm
I think the point of the article is to show the road map they both used to get to this point… so maybe some other young bucks out there with an itch to do real country music can use it for their own journey.
Colter
September 6, 2018 @ 10:20 am
I’m only 21 and I hear people playing /singing Tyler’s music all the time that are my age. When I mention Sturgill they never know who he is. Tyler has a huge following of young people similar to turnpike.
Rooster Cruiser
September 6, 2018 @ 11:18 am
How the hell do they not know who Sturgill Simpson is if they like Tyler Childers?
It’s not like Sturgill is some old guy who was last relevant 15 years ago.
Colter
September 6, 2018 @ 11:31 am
I have yet to figure that out but people my age are pretty dumb. I’ll go to a party or a bar or somewhere and Tyler, Turnpike, and Cody Jinks get played a lot but I’ve never heard anybody play or even talk about Sturgill. Maybe they don’t like songs about reptile aliens and nautical themed concept records.
Tex Hex
September 6, 2018 @ 12:00 pm
Curious, whereabouts do you live? I’d wager not a single party of twenty-somethings around here (DC) would have a playlist like that. Most country fans (of any age) around here probably wouldn’t even know those artists at all.
Colter
September 6, 2018 @ 12:23 pm
I live in Louisiana. I believe they only listen to these guys because they think they are young and hip. They typically just play their most popular songs that have the most listens on Spotify. They’ll turn around and play Aldean or some other shitty top 40 country star along with pop and rap.
Trigger
September 6, 2018 @ 1:52 pm
Tyler Childers is HUGE in the Texas scene and has played here a bunch, so I can see a lot of Turnpike and Cody Jinks fans getting into him. The Sturgill Simpson demographic is a bit different, though there’s obviously overlap.
Seth of Lampasas
September 6, 2018 @ 11:18 pm
I’ve experienced the same thing. I have a customer who is 19 or 20 and I had Tyler playing and she said “he’s my favorite singer, know all his songs, and I’ve seen him live several times”. I said oh cool then you must like Sturgill Simpson too huh?” And she said “Who?”
I think their material is the reason. Tyler’s music is more in tune with youthful angst and Sturgill’s music contains themes more appealing to middle aged parents who still feel like tripping balls every now and then.
Logan
September 6, 2018 @ 11:31 am
I get the same reactions. Turnpike and Tyler Childers are extremely popular with people 18-26. It’s wild to see.
Tex Hex
September 6, 2018 @ 11:36 am
Guessing it’s all the live gigs and festival spots. Good way to get in front of a wide (and young) audience. Also, all the cocaine references. It’s not enough to just mention weed anymore.
Benjamin Mays
September 7, 2018 @ 7:40 am
I’m also 21 and a lot of my friends here in Virginia listen to Tyler Childers without me ever telling them about him. One of my friends actually introduced me to him through “Nose On the Grindstone” years ago. I was also at a music festival in Huntington, WV last weekend and I saw at least 4 Tyler Childers shirts…even though he wasn’t even one of the acts in the lineup… anyway, a lot of people I know listen to Childers but not to Simpson. I have 2 of Simpson’s albums but I wouldn’t pay good money to see him in concert, however I have tickets to see Childers. I think his music is more accessible to young people and that’s why people our age (in their 20’s) connect so well with it so well. It’s the traditional instrumentation with the lyrics and the attitude that resonates with us. Sturgill Simpson’s lyrics are good, but they dont connect the way Tyler’s do… (plus Childers is fun to sing a long with, while Simpson has a voice that takes a lot of focus because it’s hard to make things out)
Dirt Road Derek
September 6, 2018 @ 10:58 am
As good as “Purgatory” is, I think “Bottles and Bibles” is my favorite Tyler album. I can do three or four times through the whole album in one sitting and still dig the last time through as much as the first. Such a great album 🙂
Owen
September 6, 2018 @ 11:55 am
Luke Bryan is more country than Sturgill Simpson. Sturgill Simpson is trash
King Honky Of Crackershire
September 6, 2018 @ 12:20 pm
Luke is definitely more talented, at both singing and writing.
If Luke ever decides to record a Country album, I’ll buy it.
Mike W.
September 6, 2018 @ 12:31 pm
Your high…..
King Honky Of Crackershire
September 6, 2018 @ 2:15 pm
My what? What’s a high?
Ulysses McCaskill
September 6, 2018 @ 12:40 pm
Honk, c’mon brother, this is your worst troll ever. Better come stronger than that.
Ulysses McCaskill
September 6, 2018 @ 12:44 pm
Bro, Stapleton wrote the only Luke Bryan song worth a semblance of a damn.
Ulysses McCaskill
September 6, 2018 @ 12:47 pm
Let me know when Luke writes anything with half the substance that songs like Panbowl, or Old King Coal have.
Fuzzy TwoShirts
September 6, 2018 @ 2:26 pm
Honk.
You’re off the deep end.
Luke Bryan can neither sing, write, nor play, and he’s got no range no control and poor breathing.
Sturgill Simpson’s technical ability exceeds him at every turn.
And if Luke Bryan ever records a Country album I wouldn’t buy it, and I’d condemn anyone who does!
Because the one thing Scott Borchetta and Luke Bryan do not need to know is that we as consumers are malleable.
The only winning in the Country Music war is to send one message: NEVER AGAIN.
and that means no buying anything from Big Machine records, no matter how Country it is.
No buying or supporting anything involving Luke, Jason Al-can’t-read-can’t-spell-definitely-a-rascist-looks-like-jabba-the-hutt-get-over-my-affair-probably-didn’t-know-who-joe-diffie-was-before-recording-that-song-has-his-name-on-his-guitar-like-an-asshole-blackface-wearing-dean or Blake Shelton.
Because if we send the message that we’ll buy the content it means that they will drain us as a market and we have to leave our principles before our preferences in order to run the snakes out of Country Music.
We can’t just forgive the bros and the bean counters this time. otherwise they’ll just do it again
Phil Oxford
September 6, 2018 @ 6:04 pm
Fuzzy, I consistently enjoy your Jason Al-?-dean monikers. Thank you for them.
CountryRoads
September 6, 2018 @ 2:43 pm
“Luke Bryan is a more talented writer than Sturgill” – man, Honky, that is about the most ridiculous and ill-informed opinion you have ever uttered on here. And that is saying a ton.
TheRealBobCephus
September 7, 2018 @ 7:18 am
Hmmm… I don’t know. I can’t decide who has a more real southern accent.
Ulysses McCaskill
September 6, 2018 @ 12:38 pm
Did you get into the whacky juice again Owen?
Owen
September 6, 2018 @ 1:20 pm
I’m sorry, but Sturgill’s newest album didn’t resemble country in any way, and personally was hard on the ears. I couldn’t follow any of his songs. Trust me, I tried to like it because his first album was fantastic, but I’m done with his crap. I does Tyler Childers wrong by comparing him to the garbage pile that is current Sturgill Simpson. Tyler is REAL COUNTRY. Sturgill is psychedelic bullshit
Trigger
September 6, 2018 @ 1:53 pm
…and somehow that make Luke Bryan more country than him? Please.
Owen
September 6, 2018 @ 2:55 pm
Trigger, the 3 things that I believe define a song as country are 1)country themes, 2)story, and 3)country instrumentation. Sturgill does none of these three while Luke typically has at least one or two
Jack Williams
September 6, 2018 @ 2:10 pm
There’s very little country on the album, but I would say Sea Stories is a country song that would be at home on MMSICM. Also, I think It Ain’t All Flowers would be at home on ASGTE. Anyway, it’s a solid, soulful roots music album.
CountryRoads
September 6, 2018 @ 6:44 pm
Please tell us, for the sake of humanity, that you are being sarcastic, Owen. Literally, everything you have written is objectively the exact opposite of reality.
Ulysses McCaskill
September 6, 2018 @ 5:09 pm
You’ll have to point out where I claimed Sturgill’s last album was country. I didn’t claim that at all. But in the same vein, Luke Bryan’s music is and has always been pop/bro trash party music.
Sturgill’s first two albums were more country than anything Luke has or will ever put out. And that automatically makes him more country.
TheRealBobCephus
September 7, 2018 @ 7:23 am
What exactly, is a “country theme” I’m curious.
Jack Williams
September 7, 2018 @ 8:31 am
You know, like in Kick The Dust Up, where he checks off country items like tractors. cornfields, back roads and a “jar full of clear.” I mean, the music isn’t remotely country, but hey, he’s got those themes covered.
ScottG
September 6, 2018 @ 5:03 pm
This comment has gotten much more attention than it deserves.
hoptowntiger94
September 6, 2018 @ 6:34 pm
They do it every post that hints of Sturgill.
diana diamond
September 6, 2018 @ 12:05 pm
Both are talented and deserve wider audiences. But I will listen to Tyler over Sturgill. But that is just me.
ScottG
September 6, 2018 @ 1:02 pm
Must be a slow news day….
In all seriousness. Trigger, I am curious what your day looks like. What other blogs do you read, do you go through twitter, how do you pick new releases, are you constantly being emailed by various sources, do you listen to albums you are going to review as you write / read, is it a 12 hour day, do you keep a calendar of all upcoming releases, how do you organize your time, do you have CPT, etc? You do a lot, and still seem to read all the comments and reply, when appropriate. If you care to share, what is a day in your life?
Tex Hex
September 6, 2018 @ 1:39 pm
I’m genuinely curious (and very appreciative) too. This site has more valuable and in-depth music information, insight, and opinion (albeit for one genre) than most music/arts sites I visit daily, but those sites have entire staffs/networks of paid employees and writers. Kinda boggles my mind.
Trigger
September 6, 2018 @ 8:18 pm
Scott G,
That’s a lot of questions.
1) There are no slow news days. I have a big white board that is always crammed with topics, usually 30+ that are just waiting to get written, from album reviews, to think pieces, to history stuff. Then breaking news happens and your plan gets wrecked. Then you wake up the next morning and start over.
2) I work usually about 72 hours a week, which is about three 4-hour shifts a day, and then sometimes a little less on the weekends. About 20 hours of that is strictly on email, which also includes initially vetting music submissions. The amount of email I receive is incredibly, but I read everything, and respond to most.
3) I am constantly monitoring Twitter. It is my primary aggregator, though I do have other sources, including readers and folks in the industry who feed me stuff, and help be my eyes and ears. I don’t follow a lot of folks on Twitter, but I look at every single tweet every person I follow posts.
4) I have multiple ways I keep up with new releases, and also make sure music is being fed into my brain so it can be considered for review. The “Most Anticipated” posts I do are basically excerpts from my calendar.
5) I love to work. I love to write about country music. I am a classic workaholic. But I also have dedicated times for family, and for unplugging. I also do a lot of traveling with music as the excuse.
ScottG
September 6, 2018 @ 8:34 pm
Thanks for the reply. Glad you like what you do.
Tex Hex
September 7, 2018 @ 11:12 am
Thanks for doing what you do, Trigger. This site is like a little oasis in the dried out trash-heap of contemporary music journalism (so called).
ScottG
September 7, 2018 @ 1:57 pm
Truth
Jack Williams
September 6, 2018 @ 2:22 pm
In the DC area,Stapleton, Isbell and Sturgill each did one headlining show at the historic Birchmere in Alexandria (500 seat listening room) during their rise. I saw the Isbell and Sturgill shows, but was out of town for the Stapleton show. Tyler Childers skipped that level and went from smallish DC club to the big rock club (9:30 Club).
Tex Hex
September 7, 2018 @ 11:49 am
Now Stapleton is doing Jiffy Lube Live two years in a row. 25,000+ capacity. Had tickets in hand last year, but had to miss it last minute. One more try next month, pit tickets, but I hate that venue so much.
I think Simpson and Stapleton paved the way for artists like Childers, and fans now want to catch them at smaller/better venues while they still can. Makes for a much quicker climb in terms of momentum and selling out venues.
Jack Williams
September 7, 2018 @ 12:13 pm
Oh, I hate that venue, too. I’m still scarred by the 2 to 3 hour wait time to get out of the parking lot after seeing John Fogerty do a great show in ’97. Saw the Allmans about 10 years ago with friends who had VIP passes and that was much better. Saw Stapleton and Isbell at Merriweather in 2016 and that’s a much more civilized experience. It’s a haul for me, though.
I guess I slept too long on Childers at the 9:30 Club. Saw Isbell and Sturgill there on their rise and both shows were fantastic. Holly Williams opened for Isbell,too, and she was just great. I do miss her.
Ron
September 8, 2018 @ 9:40 pm
Isbell at Wolf Trap this summer was a nice alternative to Jiffy Lube or the long trek to Merriweather. I’d love to see that again next summer.
Hoov
September 6, 2018 @ 2:24 pm
Agree. This site is bad ass.
Dennixx
September 6, 2018 @ 2:37 pm
So..what I’m getting out of the Childers/Simpson connection is an expectation of a sorta maybe kinda country record from Tyler in the near future.
As soon as he gives us a timeline on his career.
JB-Chicago
September 6, 2018 @ 3:28 pm
He sold out so fast here I didn’t even know there was a fuckin show!!! Now granted even though I check many sites, ticket announcements, etc…. everyday I’m not on his “email list” etc…but man!
I might have to pay the dreaded secondary market. 🙁 I’m sure the younger crowd doesn’t check the producers name on much of what they listen to like we did back in the day holding the album cover in our hands. Some of them might just read it and go Sturgill who?
EW in DFW
September 6, 2018 @ 5:57 pm
Childers had scheduled a second show in Dallas later in the year before even playing the first show. His first show was originally scheduled for the same place as Sturtill’s first show but moved to a much larger venue before tickets went on sale.
jessie with the long hair
September 6, 2018 @ 6:04 pm
I find Childer’s music way more original and interesting than Simpson, Stapelton, or Isbell. Childer’s sounds fresh to me while the others sound more derivative. I will say I like Isbell’s songwriting much more than Simpson or Stapelton.
hoptowntiger94
September 6, 2018 @ 6:32 pm
I think Childers is way more accommodating than Simpson (ironic because Simpson had a hand in Purgatory). I’ve already discovered a handful of Appalachian artists through Childers; Simpson a bunch of established, worldly artists he covered in shows. I think Childers is an ambassador, whereas Simpson out grew and got bored with his roots.
Now that Jinks punted, and Simpson an Hank III are still dormant, Chiders is the leader of the pack.
Seth of Lampasas
September 7, 2018 @ 2:01 am
Jinks punted as in you didn’t like his last album?
hoptowntiger94
September 7, 2018 @ 10:05 am
It was ok. Not a fumble or interception. Sometimes the best offense is a punt… play the field position. I think he rushed it. It was good to get something out there for the road. But no one is talking about Lifers anymore and there was a ton of hype before the release.
Dragin
September 7, 2018 @ 12:05 pm
I personally think Lifers is Cody’s best CD yet! It will probably be a contender for SCM Album of the Year.
Benny Lee
September 7, 2018 @ 12:52 pm
Whitey just dropped another song:
https://youtu.be/op6FYSpn2yE
The King of Honky Tonk is coming…
Tex Hex
September 7, 2018 @ 11:36 am
Childers is in his twenties, while Simpson is 40. I’m approaching the latter age (though far less accomplished), and I’m definitely more jaded and choosy about how I spend my time. Less to prove these days.
Guessing that’s where Simpson’s at, but I wouldn’t say he’s “dormant” or passing the torch or passing the crown, or whatever else people are saying. He dropped a Grammy Award winning album barely two years ago, and 2 to 4 years is not uncommon for an album cycle these days, especially for an “older” artist who’s already made a big splash. He’ll roar back soon, I’m sure.
Childers is young, hustling hard, and on the rise. He’ll eventually slow down too after he’s made his mark.
Big Cat
September 7, 2018 @ 5:59 am
This is well thought out piece. Tyler will be the first to tell you Sturgill blazed a trail for this recent musical movement. I’d venture to guess 95% of fans attending Childres shows own/have downloaded Sturgill album(s). If your unwilling to accept that Sturgill’s work with Tyler isn’t part of his success then I think you have blinders on.
Too bad people jump to a conclusion you are comparing anyone. It is a very astute point that Tyler’s path is so, so similar to Sturgills.
Tyler is also quick to thank Miles – it was he who pulled sturgill’s shirtail to work with him. Just thankful we have both these guys and look forward to what comes next.
JTrcknOregon
October 3, 2020 @ 7:21 pm
Love Tyler Childers here in Oregon. Lucky enough to see him play twice at Pick-a-thon, near Portland, and in Natchez Mississippi with Bishop Gunn. Tyler has it… I’ve bought 6 CDs I could find, killer gear, a Tyler angry face pin, and an artist’s painting of Tyler he signed. No artist has opened my wallet this fast. A great 3 years… hope some oldies/others from youtube make a collection someday. He’s great-