Why Carrie Underwood’s Producer Credits for “Cry Pretty” Are Critically Important
There are fundamental, underlying reasons why women have so disappeared from mainstream country recently, and it doesn’t just boil down to simple sexism or the market saying they don’t want to hear women, and the solution isn’t just to “play more women dammit!” One of the fundamental issues plaguing mainstream country is the lack of women in positions where they choose the what, the how, and the who that ultimately goes into building the musical makeup of the mainstream. Though this is a bigger issue when it comes to record label executives and decision makers at radio corporations such as Cumulus and iHeartMedia, it’s also present behind the mixing boards of country music’s studios.
Music production has always been a mostly male dominated occupation, but there has always been at least a little participation from women, even if it was just the artists themselves getting a greater say so in the studio. But recently, women producers have virtually evaporated in country music, and beyond.
That is why it was so groundbreaking when Taylor Swift released her 2010 album Speak Now. Forget about how country it was or wasn’t for a moment, and just focus on the fact that a 19 and 20-years-old Taylor Swift wrote an entire record by herself, and co-produced it with her long-time producer Nathan Chapman. At the time, allowing anyone in country to write all of their own material, let alone co-produce a record, especially a young woman, and especially at 20-years-old, was unprecedented, and incredibly ambitious. Quibble about the quality or results all you want, but the underlying approach was groundbreaking in any genre.
Fast forward to 2012 and Taylor Swift’s album Red. This was the first instance where we saw a country label (Big Machine) bring in big pop producers—in this case Max Martin and Shellback—and not only to give them free reign in the production room, but they somehow got to walk away with songwriter credits for the songs they produced, which is an established practice of the pop and hip-hop world. Country music’s top female at the time went from full control, to now relinquishing songwriting credits to producers simply for their participation.
Since then, it has become difficult to impossible to find a female at the reigns of album production in mainstream country music, and often, the new crop of male producers migrating to country walk away with songwriter credits. We saw that as part of Kacey Musgrave’s recent release Golden Hour, where producers Daniel Tashian and Ian Fitchuck received songwriters credits on every track except the songs Musgraves co-wrote with others.
On the positive side, Kacey Musgraves is listed as producer on Golden Hour as well. Maren Morris also co-produced most of her debut album Hero. But about the only mainstream country record in recent memory where a woman was involved in the production and did not perform was Raelynn’s 2017 Wildhorse. Well-known songwriter Nicolle Galyon was a co-producer on the project.
This all brings us to the announcement this week of Carrie Underwood’s new album Cry Pretty, which is scheduled to be released on September 14th. Carrie Underwood co-produced the entire record with David Garcia, who she also worked with as a writer for the record. This takes Carrie Underwood—a top tier country performer—into virtually uncharted territory in the mainstream, at least in the near term.
Carrie Underwood is a pop country star that originated on American Idol. When you think of overproduction and heavy label influence in the creative process, you think of Carrie Underwood. She’s not a songwriter in the traditional sense, though she has contributed to the songwriting on her records over the years. And she certainly wasn’t previously considered a producer. But here she is, taking a commanding role in her new record, for better or worse. We’ll just have to see the results come September.
And let’s not gloss over the very important note that Cry Pretty will be Carrie Underwood’s first record since switching from Sony Nashville over to the Universal Music Group. After years of making the music others wanted Carrie Underwood to make, now she has a restructured contract that puts her firmly in the driver’s seat. This record was made in an actual studio, with an actual band playing real instruments, which in 2018 is audacious in itself.
This is a step in the right direction, as opposed to the wrong one of allowing producers to call all of the shots. This move by Carrie Underwood is incredibly audacious for country, mainstream or otherwise, from a man or a woman. At a time when leadership is needed, especially from the artist ranks, Carrie Underwood has unexpectedly stepped up to insist that she has earned the ability to call her own shots. This could have large ramifications for country music in the years to come as more artists insist on this opportunity, and more individuality enters the market as opposed to what producers and businessmen decree from on high.
Anne
April 19, 2018 @ 10:31 am
Very excited to hear what this album will be and what her producing credit brings.I heard on the radio this morning it’s still not 100% finished hence the late September roll out. While Carrie may not always be country, she’s good for country music.
Fuzzy TwoShirts
April 19, 2018 @ 10:36 am
“But here she is, taking a commanding role in her new record, for better or worse.”
sounds like for worse to me.
Today’s Fuzzipedia listening selections have included Jeanp Shepard, Steve Wariner, and Jason Boland, as well as Josh Groban, Leahy, and Stephane Grappeli.
why would I take any of that off to listen to Carrie Undwerwood?
on the flip side, if today’s selections had included Puke Bryan or Sham Hunt, I’d turn that off to listen to Carrie Underwood shriek like she was being impaled for thirteen consecutive tracks.
heck I’d turn Luke Bryan off to listen to an angry foreign man reading Moby Dick accompanied by the soothing sounds of a blender full of explosive diarrhea backing a dumptruck with a grinding clutch through a nitroglycerin plant full of squealing hogs scraping cheese graters across chalkboards.
You know what I respect about Carrie Underwood?
she doesn’t tell me that my music needed to be changed or that I’m an obstinate opponent of creative thoughts by not enjoying her music.
she makes her music, doesn’t lie about what it is, and lets me decide whether or not I want to listen to it.
and I bet a lot of people would be more receptive towards Luke and Sam and Blake if they just made their music and said “it’s what I like making and maybe its not traditional and no it doesn’t mean its better than something else, its just something we wrote and wanted to share with people and maybe some of them can get somethin out of it.”
but what they usually say is “heck yeah old farts Country Music can’t be Johnny Cash anymore we’ve got to disrupt it and make it change because everything changes and y’all need to get over it”
the pistolero
April 19, 2018 @ 4:01 pm
Steve Wariner
Another underrated favorite. A lot of his stuff did lean pop, but “Some Fools Never Learn” is still my all-time favorite song.
ScruffyCity
April 19, 2018 @ 8:22 pm
Steve Wariner is VERY underrated. “Some Fools Never Learn” is an incredible song. But my fave by him is “Driving And Crying”. That song is so dang good! And it only made it to the Top 20 the year it came out.
Bill from Wisconsin
April 24, 2018 @ 4:01 am
Not to mention he is a CGP
Scotty J
April 19, 2018 @ 9:00 pm
Guys like Steve Wariner fit perfectly in the underrated category for me. Have to have had a fair amount of success but not like Hall of Fame level success and have to have been overshadowed in their peak years by others. Others fitting this would be Johnny Rodriguez, John Anderson, Shenandoah, Sammy Kershaw and Gary Allan.
Rachel
April 19, 2018 @ 10:48 am
Shoot Trigger, people are gonna have a meltdown if you write another word about Carrie Underwood before her cd release. But in all seriousness, I really, really hope this album is good. Both from a fan standpoint, and for all the reasons you mentioned above. The actual studio and band alone makes me giddy. If Miranda and Carrie keep holding the torches and being leaders from the more traditional side and pop country side respectively, there’s real hope for the future.
Angelo Rinaldi
April 19, 2018 @ 10:53 am
It’s time for Carrie to try to be a leader in the mainstream, just like Miranda is doing. I really hope this cd is gonna be good.
Trigger
April 19, 2018 @ 11:45 am
Is anyone else experiencing an issue where the site continuously refreshes for them, especially on mobile?
Bob Loblaw
April 19, 2018 @ 12:07 pm
I was but it seems to have corrected itself.
Convict charlie
April 19, 2018 @ 2:00 pm
Yes it did it three times this afternoon when I read the article on iPhone 6s.
ARO
April 19, 2018 @ 2:17 pm
Yes, been happening for several days on my iPhone
Trigger
April 19, 2018 @ 3:13 pm
Thanks for the feedback. We’re looking into the issue. Very likely related to iPhones and out of our control, but making sure it’s nothing with the site. Possibly deleting your cache and/or updating to the latest software version might help.
Cody
April 19, 2018 @ 3:13 pm
Yes, Trig. It’s super annoying. Haven’t noticed as much lately but it’s still there.
Trigger
April 19, 2018 @ 3:16 pm
Why didn’t any of you bastards tell me about it before? 🙂 I’d be super annoyed too. I can’t re-create the problem, and neither can anyone on the web team, but we’re looking into it.
It might be improving because it’s a known iPhone issue that’s being rectified.
Fuzzy TwoShirts
April 19, 2018 @ 4:11 pm
my only problem with this site is sometimes when I’m typing the comment bar freezes and I have to reselect it and type again.
hoptowntiger94
April 19, 2018 @ 7:47 pm
you yelled at us during the Amazon Gift Card virus
James O
April 19, 2018 @ 5:07 pm
Yeah but it’s only on my iPad for some reason!
Corncaster
April 19, 2018 @ 6:38 pm
yes iphone 8, and up to date, too
hoptowntiger94
April 19, 2018 @ 7:30 pm
I have… often. When it happens, I clear my history and restart my phone. That seems to work for a few days.
Also, when on my mobile device and writing a comment, the cursor disappears many times and I have to click in the comment box for it to reappear.
Megan
April 19, 2018 @ 7:41 pm
Yes, only on mobile, and I have the latest software on my iPhone. also, yes, it is super annoying and doubly so with a screen reader. Actually, I thought it had something to do with my screen reader, and that is why I said nothing.
Marky Mark
April 20, 2018 @ 7:28 am
Repeatedly! And I am traveling on business and it happens from location to location, so it’s not at my end.
White Cleats
April 23, 2018 @ 9:53 pm
Yup. It’s limited on Safari iOS; it doesn’t happen on the desktop site.
Bill from Wisconsin
April 24, 2018 @ 4:05 am
Sorry, but this has happened a few times in several days on my kindle fire tablet.
Bill from Wisconsin
April 24, 2018 @ 4:16 am
To be more precise, the page disappears, message that the page needed to reload appears, and then goes back to where I was reading.
Trigger
April 24, 2018 @ 8:31 am
Okay thanks. We are very actively looking into this.
Bob Loblaw
April 19, 2018 @ 12:07 pm
I know they aren’t exactly current and relevant, but Shania co-produced all of her albums from The Woman in Me through present and Faith Hill co-produced all of her albums from It Matters to Me through the current duets album.
It’s definitely encouraging to see Carrie taking on a larger role with her music.
JB-Chicago
April 20, 2018 @ 7:59 am
You can tell by the latest Shania album that Mutt produced 99% of those albums.
Bob Loblaw
April 20, 2018 @ 8:19 am
Very true!
Ken
April 19, 2018 @ 12:11 pm
Here’s a mention for Gail Davies, a lady who is seldom mentioned in the history of country music but who deserves to be acknowledged for her contribution to the genre. She was the first ever female producer in country music and did a pretty good job of it too way back in the late 70’s and early 80’s producing her own albums and also in more recent times producing a tribute album to Webb Pierce and another in memory of her songwriter brother Ron Davies which included tracks from the likes of Dolly, Vince Gill, John Prine, Alison Krauss, Rodney Crowell, John Anderson and others.
Gail Davies has more country music genes in her little finger than Carrie Underwood has in her entire body.
Scotty J
April 19, 2018 @ 1:50 pm
Good one. I have always liked some of her stuff especially a song called ‘Someone Is Looking For Someone Like You’. Solid late 1970s pop country. In a better world this would be the kind of pop country that would succeed.
Another woman who has done some production work is the late Lari White who I think if I remember correctly even produced a Toby Keith album.
Music Jedi
April 20, 2018 @ 11:11 am
So glad you mentioned Gail Davies. She’s one of those older artists that have sorta slipped through the cracks over the years. I just downloaded her greatest hits and WOW – some really great songs and what a voice! Now that’s when country was country but hey, what do I know – I’m just one of those “old farts”. ????
FunctionallyIlliterate
April 19, 2018 @ 12:17 pm
Offtopic:
Trig please review Chris Lane’s “Take Back Home Girl”.
Give it the old “Chris Lane’s “Fix” Is Like A Meth Lab Trailer Fire” treatment.
God Bless,
FI
wayne
April 19, 2018 @ 12:27 pm
The first paragraph indicates to me another gender-based bending article. Seriously?
Messer
April 19, 2018 @ 4:15 pm
That’s not what it was at all. Should have read past the first paragraph I suppose.
NashTrash
April 19, 2018 @ 12:35 pm
I was watching the news this morning here in Nashville and the headline read “Maren Morris Switches Genres.” It’s official – she’s going the pop route.
Although let’s be real, she’s leaving C-level pop and going to B-level pop.
James O
April 19, 2018 @ 5:44 pm
Hail yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!yeeeeeeeeehaw!!!!!!!!!!
Anne D.
April 21, 2018 @ 11:50 am
I was going to say that, but you beat me to it.
GrantH
April 20, 2018 @ 7:19 am
She’ll come crawling back after a couple years, watch
Music Jedi
April 20, 2018 @ 8:54 am
We sure haven’t seen Taylor Swift come crawling back so I don’t know.
wayne
April 19, 2018 @ 12:35 pm
“This could have large ramifications for country music in the years to come as more artists insist on this opportunity, and more individuality enters the market as opposed to what producers and businessmen decree from on high”
Isn’t this already happening before Underwood decided to do this? By the way, it would be a welcome trend that I hope builds steam.
My qualifications for music? I listen if I like it and don’t listen if I don’t like it. Period.
wonkabar23
April 19, 2018 @ 12:49 pm
I always get nervous when an artist names an album after the lead single.
GrantH
April 19, 2018 @ 1:31 pm
Hey Trig, I know you have probably get hounded with requests all the time, but one of these weeks I think you should do a track-by-track breakdown of the main country playlist on Spotify, “Hot Country.” I checked it out because I was bored last night and after scrolling around for just two minutes I wanted to throw my earbuds across the room. It’s gotten so much worse over the past five years, I just don’t understand how the genre has been hijacked the way it has.
Trigger
April 19, 2018 @ 3:22 pm
Hey Grant,
I did something like this in January, though it didn’t go track by track. I may revisit this topic soon.
– – – – – –
The Inequalities Plaguing Country Radio Are Somehow Even Worse on Spotify’s Major Playlists
https://savingcountrymusic.com/the-inequalities-plaguing-country-radio-are-somehow-even-worse-on-spotifys-major-playlists/
wayne
April 19, 2018 @ 2:30 pm
GrantH,
I am trying to decide the same thing. Is it a push or pull marketing scheme? Are the corporate radio airheads pushing this crap CREATING a market (push) or is the market that listeners are demanding (pull)? Maybe some of both.
If this is what most listeners are wanting to hear, then though I may not like it, and I certainly do not, then it may have to fall in the category “it is what it is”.
For example, on this site there is a constant refrain on the gender issue within country music. Regardless of my views on it, is the market as a whole demanding male over female? Or is this being pushed on the market thereby falsely creating the demand?
I do not pretend to know. But if the country music public is pulling for junk from FGL or Hunt, etc., then there is no difference between that and the buying public pulling for a certain style of clothing. While I may not like it, the greatest demand is what dictates the sales strategy.
Maybe it is a little of both.
Scotty J
April 19, 2018 @ 2:42 pm
Push or pull?
Some of both I think.
The labels, radio and streaming outlets are all trying to maximize customers so it would make no sense for them to actively behave in a way that would limit the number of customers by limiting the number of women or limiting the number of traditional country performers. Now it’s very possible they are wrong but I don’t think that is necessarily due to bad intentions.
I think that more and more music consumers are becoming passive than ever before and they just accept what is given them and what they are told to like and they do. They are just of adrift floating about the marketplace without anything anchoring their musical tastes. So they become easy marks for bro country or Sam Hunt or Bebe Rexha or whatever.
In some ways this push/pull question is the overriding question in all of mainstream country.
GrantH
April 19, 2018 @ 3:37 pm
The reason I mentioned the Spotify playlists is because streaming platforms are fertile ground for a type of artist known as an “industry plant.” These are artists without any sort of organic fanbase that manage to buy their way into a record contract, likely through some sort of personal networking, and are simply placed into the same playlists as major label artists who actually have organic fan growth. Ever looked through a Spotify country playlist and said “who the hell is this dude?” And then looked at the artist profile and seen that they only have like four songs released, with one song getting ten times the streaming numbers as the others? That’s a sure sign of an industry plant.
Willie Potter
April 19, 2018 @ 5:20 pm
I feel like I missed something here….
Jennifer Nettles has been a co-producer on most of Sugarland’s releases.
Dolly Parton has been producing or co- producing her own albums for years.
Trisha Yearwood, Martina McBride, Lucinda Williams, Faith Hill, Angaleena Presley,Brandi Carlile ,
Reba McEntire, Sara Evans, Alison Krauss, Dixie Chicks, Sheryl Crow, LeAnn Rimes, ·
Gretchen Wilson…
And the majority of these artists have never split songwriting credits either.
The list is virtually endless.
Real quality female artists have been calling their own production shots for decades now….it’s not something that has “evaporated in this genre or beyond”.
Fuzzy TwoShirts
April 19, 2018 @ 5:42 pm
whoa bro. just… take a breather Edgar Allan Bro. You did not just use a list that had Jennifer Nettles, Trisha Yearwood, and the Dixie Chicks to describe the actions of real quality female artists…
Dolly Parton is the most talented person on that list by the distance Frodo walked to Mordor and then some. Alison Krauss is a close second and the rest of those clowns are miles below.
It’s like that scene in shark tale.
There’s Dolly Parton,
there’s Alison Krauss
there’s regular people
there’s coral
there’s rocks
there’s WHALE POOP
and THEN there’s Sugarland and the Dixie Chicks
Wes
April 19, 2018 @ 8:34 pm
Fuzzy shut the hell up Dixie chicks made some great shit. Dixie chicks are not bad at all. If you’re going to say they are the problem you’ve gotten way too far up your own ass to really just enjoy what music is. Not everything has to be critically taken apart. ALSO its alison Krauss and union station and then every other band ever, I mean that. That live album they recorded live in louisville is the best recorded live album of all time please someone disagree I will RIP you a new one….
Fuzzy TwoShirts
April 20, 2018 @ 5:55 am
I mean… if I’d never heard Susan Raye or Lynn Morris Band I’d probably think the Dixie Chicks were pretty good too.
Oh my gosh I LOVE that Alison Krauss live album BUT my favorite album of hers is “A Hundred Miles or More: A Collection” it was one of the first albums I bought with my own money and there are just so many different types of songs on there.
I saw Willie Nelson once and when she and he toured together they had Isbell open for them and I’d never heard of Isbell back then and I’d already seen Nelson and I passed on that show and I regret it so much I missed out on the best thing ever!
Jack Williams
April 20, 2018 @ 7:39 am
Yes, equating Sugarland with The Dixie Chicks is beyond absurd, but fuzz has been spouting this kind of horseshit for a good long time now. And I guess he’ll just keep doing it. He’s not going to be told different. Because, you know, he knows more about country music than any of us.
Hayley
April 22, 2018 @ 12:37 am
Sorry Jack, here’s the rest of my conclusion…
It’s blatantly obvious that spouting asinine, deeply misogynistic “knowledge” is nothing but a defense mechanism for ol Fuzzy Two Squirts. I used to get all riled up by his cries for attention but now, I just feel badly for him. He needs a hug, or a support group or hell, he probably needs to get LAID. So much frustration against the opposite sex has GOT
Fuzzy TwoShirts
April 22, 2018 @ 12:06 pm
No.
I hate shitty music.
by men AND women.
and the Dixie Chicks made shitty music. maybe not compared to Sham Hunt, but compared to somebody like Lynn Morris or Rhonda Vincent, they’re about as exciting as watching grass dry
Trigger
April 22, 2018 @ 1:01 pm
If you think “Home” by the Dixie Chicks is “shitty” music, I’m not sure how valid we should make any of your opinions. It’s basically a traditional bluegrass record with songwriting contributions from Marty Stuart, Bruce Robison, Patty Griffin, Lloyd Maines, Radney Foster, and Tim O’Brien. It may not be your style, but if you think these songs are “shitty,” then you’re not a fan of country music, you just think you are.
Fuzzy TwoShirts
April 22, 2018 @ 1:15 pm
Bob Dylan could sing an album of Haggard covers in falsetto.
Haggard wrote some great songs, but that doesn’t mean Bob Dylan singing them in falsetto isn’t going to be shitty.
Likewise, the Dixie Chicks doing songs written by good songwriters doesn’t mean they’re going to do them well.
I usually make Dr. Hook comparisons but I feel it’s an accurate way to describe Dixie Chicks.
It’s so… bland.
it’s kind of like a soup that has lots of ingredients but is too watery and doesn’t have any real flavor.
there’s no edge, no bite to it. It’s polished.
I like my music to have this energetic bite to it, like Tommy Collins whom I’ve been listening to.
Tommy Collins tunes make me want to get up and stomp, its music I can jog to.
Dixie Chicks and Dr. Hook et al don’t do anything for me. its music that elicits no response. its sort of like astronaut food.
Trigger
April 22, 2018 @ 4:23 pm
Okay, but bland and “shitty” are two separate things. You can’t argue taste, but if you’re arguing that the Dixie Chicks are not country, you’re just flat wrong. So many folks just think of them as the big mainstream trio that got screwed over their Bush comments when they were actually putting out some badass music and were very successful while returning country music back to its roots.
Fuzzy TwoShirts
April 22, 2018 @ 5:20 pm
I never said they weren’t Country.
I said they weren’t very good.
Because I define “goodness” as “eliciting some sort of physical or emotional responce” I.E. “making me want to dance” or “feeling sad” or “feeling “pumped up”” and on a secondary level consisting of “displays of skill or ability beyond the average person on the street” and also “exhibiting some kind of creativity or unusual thinking that I would not have thought on my own.”
For instance: Grandpa Jones. Very energetic, always makes me want to jump around, real good jumping fired up music. yeah he’s not as talented as Chris Thile or Roy Clark.
also for instance, Roy Clark. Strikes out on the creativity or original thought but is always very emotional and is extremely technically proficient far above average people.
Dixie Chicks: doesn’t really cause me to cry or want to jump around. they aren’t super talented or unique like Dolly, Patsy, or Ruthie Henshall, and their music is kind of “been there done that” and not super original.
as for their talent, they are reasonable and certainly better than Taylor Swift but in a world of Rhonda Vincents and Lyn Morrises the Dixie Chicks are just okay musicians.
Simply put I think there’s a lot of better options, like Rhonda Vincent, and Dolly, and Lynn Morris, and Helen Cornelius, etc etc etc.
And I don’t understand why I’m so evil for not putting myself through a listening experience that does absolutely nothing for me.
Luke Bryan at least makes me angry. Dixie Chicks does nothing for me, it’s just background noise.
Raymond
April 19, 2018 @ 8:45 pm
I mean if you don’t like the Dixie Chicks that is fine but it’s not a fact their music is awful and you should accept different opinions that don’t align with yours. Personally I think they are great but they aren’t factually horrible. Accept other opinions please.
Gabe
April 20, 2018 @ 6:27 am
Bad move Fuzzy, even though Dixie Chicks has been stigmatized by conservatives they are STILL better than most acts that started with them and those that came after them
Orgirl1
April 20, 2018 @ 3:50 pm
I’m with everyone else. What’s wrong with the Dixie Chicks? They harmonize and play instruments as well as write their own stuff. Lots of skill.
OlaR
April 20, 2018 @ 4:31 am
But, but, but…Martina, Dolly or Jennifer are not the one & only world famous (…well USA & Canada…) female mainstream country superstar…Carrie Underwood!
I tried hard a couple of Carrie-soap-episodes…well…articles ago…but other female artists are not “relevant mainstream country names” (“in the United States”).(According to Trigger)
There is world outside of the USA & i’m glad i found so many other not so relevant artists who make country music.
Since CU is a co-producer now…why don’t she use her new power to record a more country-sounding song? “Cry Pretty” is over-produced, loud, not country & CU sounds like Martina McBride or Reba McEntire 20 years ago. Vocal acrobatics is NOT singing.
Gabe
April 20, 2018 @ 6:38 am
There is world outside of the US
I’ve really struggled to understand why country singers outside America are never well known. Could it be the attributed to radio or what because back in the day there were acts like Anne Murray, K.d Lang, (Shania Twain) Terri Clark doing well here.
boy
April 20, 2018 @ 6:55 am
Nice to see carrie growing as an artist, if the album is even as good as carnival ride or blow away I hope she finally gets some grammy nomination for song writing and awards.
A.K.A. City
April 20, 2018 @ 7:38 am
I am happy for Carrie to be doing this, and hopefully it sets precedent for other female artists to do the same. One of my minors in college was audio engineering, and in the classes, I’d say that the male/female ratio was about 70/30. In the field, the numbers fell dramatically. Hopefully by having some action from top tier names, a momentum can start to get women involved in all areas of the music industry. Good for Carrie, and hopefully good for females working/wanting to work in this area.
Shiela
April 20, 2018 @ 10:10 am
“fact that a 19 and 20-years-old Taylor Swift wrote an entire record by herself, and co-produced it with her long-time producer Nathan Chapman. At the time, allowing anyone in country to write all of their own material, let alone co-produce a record, especially a young woman, and especially at 20-years-old, was unprecedented, and incredibly ambitious”
This is what a lot of Taylor “haters” (and Carrie fans) don’t understand about her talent. They simply bash her for not having a big belting singing voice but fail to see she’s so much more then a singing voice. Carrie, at 35, is just now trying to do half of what Taylor was doing at 20 (because no way she would write an album solo). So the next time people want to call Taylor swift untalented and give “her daddy” credit for her career just remember this woman was co producing and writing an entire album solo at age 20. But I do think Nashville frowns upon a woman (or maybe anyone) writing an entire album solo for the simple fact they did not award speak now with country album of the year. They instead awarded the far less critically acclaimed lady antebellum country album aoty, awarding Taylor country song and performance for “Mean”.
boy
April 20, 2018 @ 10:40 am
taylor has little talent. producing an album is not a talent, its a lesson you learn.
yes her daddy gave her the cash.
carrie went through Idol and had never been on a plane unlike taylor who was born into a life of luxury.
carrie overall has more talent and she counties to grow. carrie can sing anything and adapt to genre if she wants. because she has more talent. taylor has been expose as a little talent hack now she is doing bubble gum pop music, her vocals are worse, the song writing is at its worst in her pop stuff.
her song mean was her hating on people who told the truth she could not sing. spare me.
britney spears handled that with more class and less insecurity .
Lance
April 20, 2018 @ 12:53 pm
Song is same old same for her. What’s the prob in that camp??? All her tunes sound the same & on verge of screaming.
Adam
April 21, 2018 @ 10:57 am
I just come to this site to read the douchey name dropping comments. It’s like a race to see who can name the most obscure band that just doesn’t get their due! Haha good stuff.
Donna
April 22, 2018 @ 11:08 am
Are you sure coproduced doesn’t just mean she financed it so she could still be shoved down our throats. The artists all pay for their success. She is not instrumental talented at all.
MKat
May 17, 2018 @ 3:48 am
While I agree with your piece on how it’s good Carrie is taking on the challenge of producing her own music and hopefully her lead will inspire others, the fact remains that this new album needs to be more country than pop to get me to buy it, and this lead single isn’t giving me much cause to believe that will indeed be the case.
My other curiosity is can she go a whole album without a song where a woman harms/kills a man? For such a highly touted Christian as her hype heralds her to be, I find it dissettling the number of songs about female on male violence she has had, e
MKat
May 17, 2018 @ 3:59 am
While I agree with your piece and share in your hopes that she will inspire others in this matter, the fact remains this new album will need to be more country than her past catalog to entice me to purchase it. The lead single has done little to make me think such will be the case.
My other curiosity is can she go a whole album without any songs about a woman harming/killing a man? For such a Christian woman as her ardent fan base heralds her to be, I’ve found the recurrent theme of female on male violence in her songs dissettling, even when seemingly ‘justified’ as a response to domestic abuse.