Why People Hate to Love Steely Dan, But Shouldn’t
Look, Steely Dan is not for everyone. Let’s face it, it’s sort of a weird band that’s too jazzy to be progressive rock, and too rock to be considered jazz, that was slotted into the slosh pit of the classic rock space by Clear Channel some 35 years ago, and asked to fend for itself among legacy AC/DC and Lynyrd Skynyrd cuts. If your life’s purpose is to throw up the devil horns every chance you get, when a song like Steely Dan’s “Peg” comes on, you don’t know what to do with yourself. At least it’s not Elton John, I guess.
And so the legacy of Steely Dan was cemented for millions of Americans through the classic rock radio format, whether you grew up listening to the records when they were first released, or got introduced to the band later in life. Like it does for every band, classic rock radio condensed what was otherwise a quite involved and diverse musical legacy down to a few select tracks that it summarily shoved down your throat for decades and decades until you loved to hate it, but for some sadistic reason couldn’t stop listening, possibly because it still was better than Top 40, or the country format after the Class of ’89, and Pandora and Spotify were still decades away.
So there you were being force fed “Reelin’ In The Years” and “Do It Again” over and over again with no recourse, and telling your fellow classic rock buddies how much Steely Dan sucked. After all, the band is named after a freaking dildo, and have you seen photos of Donald Fagan and Walter Becker? These guys aren’t cool. Why are they even being played on the classic rock station?
Maybe you had a sense that behind the scenes, among the population of musicians themselves, there was a much higher regard for Steely Dan because of the way they were able to slither complexity into pop and rock music in a way that allowed the population to be receptive to it. Maybe you knew that despite the narrow playlist on the radio, Steely Dan had even better deep cuts, or hadn’t stopped recording in the 70’s, despite the radio ignoring it. You didn’t know what exactly it was you didn’t like about Steely Dan. Maybe it was Donald Fagan’s high pitched voice, or the sort of quasi disco sound of “Peg” and others. But you didn’t like it.
That is, until you did.
At some point you started craving those guitar licks on “Reelin’ In The Years.” “Deacon Blues” seemed to encapsulate a depressed mood better than most. Maybe it even angered you when they played the shorter radio edit version of “Do It Again” that eliminated the keyboard solo. All of a sudden, despite the continued coolness of bagging on Steely Dan and Supertramp as the denizens of uncool on the classic rock format, you began to understand why they were essential. In some ways, they helped legitimize it. They were like The Band. They could have been huge, but they decided to soldier forth with their music via less trodden paths that purposely hung to the side of popularity so as not to corrupt the sentiments they were trying to covey. They were popular despite themselves, because they were just too good to be ignored, even if they were often misunderstood.
But you still held your appreciation for Steely Dan close to the vest. You didn’t want anyone else to think you were uncool, like Steely Dan. And the radio kept playing them, because that’s what classic rock radio does.
I remember seeing Clint Black on an episode of Austin City Limits back in maybe the early 2000’s, and randomly Clint and the band decided to launch into a straight, uninterpreted version of Steely Dan’s “Josie.” It was even one of those Steely Dan songs that veers uncomfortably close to funk or disco. Yet that was the first time I realized it could be cool to like a Steely Dan song, even as a country fan.
The death of Steely Dan’s guitarist and founding member Walter Becker has classic rock fans reminiscing on the band’s legacy, and others reconsidering it. Steely Dan is a weird band. It’s not for everyone. But it shouldn’t be uncool to like their music. Because Steely Dan was cool. It was just uncool to like them. Until it wasn’t.
Corncaster
September 5, 2017 @ 11:34 am
These guys could write. They wrote great lyrics, great music, and they hired the best. They were the smartasses in the back of class who made wisecracks, but in their case, they really were smarter than the teacher. They were the cynics, sure, but they also paid real tribute to the Queen of Soul. They were the Hunter S. Thompson of American pop music. They laughed because they were cryin’, and Walter most of all. And underneath it all? Craftsmanship. Perfect time. Perfect groove. Slick harmonies. Suggestive lyrics. Tight. Sharp. And they could turn up the wick and wail.
They played music that top Nashville session players admired. They set benchmarks and high standards.
And afterwards, turned and ground their cigarettes on the sidewalk with their heels.
Respect.
Scotty J
September 5, 2017 @ 12:33 pm
‘That’s ‘Retha Franklin she don’t remember the Queen of Soul’
Sean Murphy
August 21, 2018 @ 1:52 pm
Lol…..your lame worshiping of this mediocre soft rock trash is amusing. These guys are fucking lame. They always were and they always will be. Steely Dan is Jimmy buffet level elevator music at best. Tame, tepid, lukewarm and never dangerous. They are the warm washcloths of soft rock.
Les Archer
September 29, 2019 @ 1:23 am
I think perhaps you’re confusing them with Three Dog Night.
Jack Williams
September 29, 2019 @ 5:05 am
Or started listening at Aja.
Jack Williams
September 29, 2019 @ 6:22 am
I could be wrong but I have seen your face before
You were the man that I saw running from his door
You owed him money but you gave him something more
With a gun
With a gun
You will be what you are just the same
Did you pay the other man with the piece in your hand
And leave him lying in the rain?
You were the founders of the clinic on the hill
Until he caught you with your fingers in the till
He slapped your hand so you settled up your bill
With a gun
With a gun
You will be what you are just the same
Did you pay the other man with the piece in your hand
And leave him lying in the rain?
When you’re born to play the fool
And you’ve seen all the western movies
Woe to the one who does you wrong
You hide in the bushes
Murder the man
With Luger in hand
I understood that you will soon be leavin’ town
Don’t try to call me when they finally run you down
Just give fair warning any time you come around
With a gun
With a gun
You will be what you are just the same
Did you pay the other man with the piece in your hand
And leave him lying in the rain?
Declan
June 10, 2020 @ 11:15 pm
If you ask a professional musician what they think about Steely Dan, in my experience, they all say, “the best, but they didn’t make good songs.”
I disagree with the latter sentiment to a degree, but they are HIGHLY regarded by every musician I’ve come across.
Jim
September 5, 2017 @ 11:36 am
I’m too young to have found them in their prime, but I picked up “The Royal Scam” used for $1.99 when I was in high school and didn’t even know anything about them beyond it was a cool cover.
They’ll never be my favorite band. But I thought they did some really cool stuff.
“Now all those day-glo freaks who used to paint the face, they’ve joined the human race, some things well never change!”
Stringbuzz
September 5, 2017 @ 11:38 am
Had the opportunity to see them live a couple times and they were stellar.
Class act live from the horn section, full compliment of background singers, strings, etc.
Intelligent music with soul.
Scotty J
September 5, 2017 @ 12:30 pm
Ok, so you managed to write a piece about one of my favorites and you even mentioned one of my other favorites (Supertramp). These bands are so talented as both musicians and lyricists. Steely Dan is probably right up at the top as a studio band and as someone who has never really been that into hearing live music I always gravitate to performers that take recorded music seriously and that was really true with Steely Dan. ‘Aja’ and ‘Gaucho’ are musical masterpieces.
As I’ve aged I have really realized how cool it is to like many different styles of music. So I can absolutely love Steely Dan and Led Zeppelin and Fleetwood Mac and Waylon Jennings and Keith Whitley and Sidney Bechet. Limiting yourself to one genre is kind of depressing really. But, and this is the big thing, these various genres are best when they stay in there own lanes and that is really where the current music has gone off the rails and I really fear that it is a permanent crack up.
Six String Richie
September 5, 2017 @ 4:55 pm
With you 100% about loving many styles. Besides loving country I love 90s alt rock, surf, punk, 50s and early 60s rock, and Latin stuff like bachata and salsa.
It’s so much fun to find new styles of music! I love finding new music scenes or sub genres and exploring them.
David
May 15, 2018 @ 2:12 pm
You may also dig this band too…A title dusting of Fagen & Becker.
https://youtu.be/Z0rVFjhRL7w
The 1957 Tail-Fin Fiasco
Jack Williams
September 5, 2017 @ 12:55 pm
Ahhhh…. Thank you for this.
I love, love, love Steely Dan and I just treasure their albums. Soul nourishing stuff. I think they’re a group that some people who know me as a rootsy/rock music enthusiast would be surprised to find how much I love them, but I think that’s because of how they’ve classified/written off as soulless jazz pop by so many. And yes, that’s probably classic rock radio’s fault. I’m personally more drawn to their first five albums when there was still a strong rock element to their music, but there’s no question that Aja is a classic and Gaucho does have its charm for me.
Acca Dacca
September 5, 2017 @ 2:08 pm
They were superficially goofy and very eclectic, but I quite enjoy their music myself. “Soul nourishing stuff” is a good way to describe them.
Gumslasher
September 5, 2017 @ 1:08 pm
Thanks Trigger. A lot of their music…. just perfection.
Gena R.
September 5, 2017 @ 1:41 pm
Maybe not one of my favorite bands, but the Dan had some songs I like — including the ones mentioned in the article, plus “Reelin’ in the Years,” “Rikki, Don’t Lose That Number,” “My Old School,” “Hey, Nineteen,” and “Cousin Dupree” (from the Grammy-winning ‘Two Against Nature’). 😀
Also, Walter (RIP 🙁 ) produced Rickie Lee Jones’ excellent 1989 LP ‘Flying Cowboys,’ and co-wrote the lovely opening track “The Horses.” 🙂
Erik North
September 6, 2017 @ 6:55 am
And also “The Fez” and “F.M. (No Static At All)”.
And just to get this on the record, yes, Walter Becker and Donald Fagen were the frontmen of Steely Dan, but the musicians they had with them came from a wide swath of the L.A. session mafia of the 1970s, including Michael McDonald (of the Doobie Brothers), drummer Rick Marotta, and keyboardist Don Grolnick (the latter two of whom worked with Jackson Browne and Linda Ronstadt), to name just three.
blue demon
September 5, 2017 @ 3:30 pm
used to hate these guys when I was young even though id only heard a few of their songs. when their album two against nature came out almost 20 years ago a friend I used to carpool to work with played it every other day when he had command of the cd player. I now have a copy of every group and solo album/cd they ever put out lol
the pistolero
September 5, 2017 @ 4:11 pm
Steely Dan never was my bag, but I will readily admit they were supremely talented, as were the musicians who backed them.
Perhaps I should go back and give them another listen. Lord knows I dig a shit-ton of music now that I never could have seen myself listening to once upon a time.
Scotty J
September 5, 2017 @ 4:23 pm
Yep, this was me also. I was like two years old when they released their first album so I obviously wasn’t a fan of theirs when they were in their prime but I found them later on.
For me personally I’ve found it more and more difficult to get into any new music as I’ve gotten older. Not sure if that is normal or a sign of the quality of new music or a combination of the two. As a consequence I find myself taking deep dives into classic artists of many genres in a search for something fresh, strangely enough.
Ron
September 6, 2017 @ 9:14 am
I can relate. I haven’t been that excited about new music that much other than Jason Isbell. I have been going through more 60’s/70’s music looking for stuff I like that maybe I missed/ignored back then.
Brett
September 5, 2017 @ 4:38 pm
Steely Dan is part of what i like to call the “thinking mans rock.” Along with others like the Blue Oyster Cult Dire Straits (who i really dig) or Supertramp, very insightful lyrics with intricate instrumentation. Im in my early 30s and as a teenager, i couldnt stand this music, but as ive grown older, i appreciate it more. One reason ive grown to like bands like this is how their songs are very open to interpretation. You hear songs like Do it Again or Stealers Wheels’ Stuck in the Middle and wander what in sam hell their talking about?! Are they trippin on drugs or is it something more? It can be as simple or complex as we want it. Best part is though, its just dang good music. Love the other comment about listening to guys like these with Keith Whitley, cause we can!
A cool Dan cover of Do It Again can be found on Waylons Music Man album, defnitely worth checking out.
Scotty J
September 5, 2017 @ 4:45 pm
I always thought ‘Stuck In The Middle With You’ would make a great country song. I mean ‘clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right’ is such a classic line. Gerry Rafferty of Stealers Wheel is another cool 70s act. The sax in ‘Baker Street’ is awesome.
Brett
September 5, 2017 @ 5:00 pm
Cool you mentioned him cause Waylon covered Bakerstreet on Hangin Tough. Your right, the sax is killer on that one! These mellower 70s rock acts and classic country had a respect for one another certainly. You must be like me, on satelite radio im constantly switching between Willies Roadhouse, Outlaw Country, and the Bridge. Haha
BrushHawg
September 8, 2017 @ 10:27 pm
Brett, I’m right out there with though as a Texan, I tend to lean to Outlaw Country.
BrushHawg
Don
September 9, 2017 @ 6:23 pm
That’s funny, that is exactly what I do
RD
October 18, 2021 @ 6:58 am
Baker Street is a cool song, but don’t you feel like they kinda stole the sound and anticipation of the sax from Seger’s Turn the Page?
Ron
September 6, 2017 @ 9:23 am
With Steely Dan, I similarly found myself enjoying them more as I got older. Just my theory but I think it is common with someone like Steely Dan. For me when I was in HS and for much of college (late 70’s), I wanted my rock-n-roll, straight-forward, guitar heavy and loud. Steely Dan didn’t fit that. As I got older and started appreciating more music including jazz, I found their music much more interesting. Another group I enjoyed more as I aged was Moody Blues for similar reasons.
-Ed.
September 5, 2017 @ 4:54 pm
Grew up with them, though admit they were not a particular favorite until many years later. They dab at you with a somewhat haunting, simple, obtuse, plain sound, and that all at once. If you’re not familiar with Steely Dan, I suggest you start with Aja. Saturate before using. Rest in peace, Walter.
sbach66
September 5, 2017 @ 5:29 pm
A damn fine band. You’ll be missed, Walter.
RD
September 5, 2017 @ 5:46 pm
I’ve been listening to Steely Dan since I was 12. My parents had all their records and I own all their albums on cd or digital. Extremely talented song-writers and musicians. That being said, I loathe them for their snarky, unabashed hatred of middle America, and the South specifically.
Corncaster
September 5, 2017 @ 8:08 pm
that’s too harsh, but it’s true they had their straw men and boogeymen, just like ginger
Flying J
September 5, 2017 @ 6:09 pm
We have a very popular cover band in town that specializes in “yacht rock” – mostly 70s and 80s pop rock like Hall & Oats, Kenny Loggins, Billy Joel, etc. My wife enjoys them, and I appreciate them for their talent even if I wouldn’t make any effort on my own to attend their shows. The last few shows I’ve been to I notice that they slip more and more Steely Dan covers in, and I admit they do them justice, probably their strongest songs as a matter of fact. I grew up with classic rock radio and I know my way around a SD tune. But when I look around the crowd of 20 and 30-something yuppies, it always looks like they lose the crowd every time they launch into a SD song. Get ’em right back with H&O, but you can’t help but notice it. SD were definitely an “uncool” band with “uncool” songs that takes time and experience to fully appreciate, even if you never gravitate to full fandom.
EW in DFW
September 5, 2017 @ 6:25 pm
Their recordings are awesome! Earbuds or computer speakers won’t cut it. Good speakers and a subwoofer are essential. Tight might be the best description. Great drums. Great horns. Great guitar. Some of the absolute best players on their albums. I only saw them live twice but they are high on my list of favorites.
Sam Cody
September 5, 2017 @ 7:34 pm
Still more country than Sam Hunt’s Kelsea Ballerini Tribute Band…
jessie with the long hair
September 5, 2017 @ 8:10 pm
Steely Dan… yawn.
hoptowntiger94
September 5, 2017 @ 8:55 pm
Trying educate myself about Van Morrison (because we are going to go see him open for Willie Nelson this Sunday), I came across these guys. I vaguely remember their songs being played at Pirates games. I asked myself why do they get such a bad rap?
Robert Hill
September 6, 2017 @ 7:23 am
Instead of Baby Mozart, my wife and I played Van Morrison all night long for our daughter for years. The man is a genius songwriter. The two-disk set Philosopher’s Stone is an outstanding work that is later than what is mostly know of him. As for songs, I still love “T.B. Sheets”. Anyway, good for you. Your musical elitism will go up in spades. After this, it’s time for Pink Floyd and Rush!
Ron
September 6, 2017 @ 9:29 am
I’m jealous. There is so much great new music there to explore for the first time. I love Van Morrison.
I’ve seen him a few times in concert. Don’t expect any audience interaction. Concert can be good or bad depending on his mood.
Robert Hill
September 6, 2017 @ 7:18 am
I will never understand the backlash. They were pro musicians who could craft great songs. For me, especially at 48, the song “Hey Nineteen” has become an insightful favorite.
Bill
September 6, 2017 @ 8:21 am
I appreciate their talent and artistry but have to admit after their first album and a few singles here and there, I never got Steely Dan. A little too slick and sterile for me. After Becker passed the other day, pulled up some SD on Spotify to give them another listen. Still don’t get them…but that’s me. Your results may vary. RIP, Walter Becker…..
Mark
September 6, 2017 @ 10:27 am
Some of their tunes have among the most complex and interesting chords changes and arrangements in rock. and they always work.
I think they were one of the bands with the money and backing to do it, that spend years, recording one album. redoing tracks, and changing arrangements etc.
Not done now.
anyway, intersting viewpoint of one of the great bands.
Lone Wolf
September 6, 2017 @ 1:52 pm
Saw them back in 2001 at what is now KeyBank Pavilion in Burgettstown, Pa. Packed house. Great setlist, tight band and a soundman who knew his stuff. One of the best shows I’ve seen. ‘Black Cow’ shows they could get funky when they wanted, too. Can’t say I’ve ever heard the same song twice by them. Thank for the article, Trig!!!
Kingpete
September 7, 2017 @ 6:00 am
Ahhh….yet another cool thing that Clint did on accident that Garth could never do on purpose.
Doug
September 8, 2017 @ 2:08 pm
I miss Clint Black.
Luckyoldsun
September 7, 2017 @ 7:43 pm
It’s because of Steely Dan that two or three generations of hipsters, psychedelics etc. know that Alabama is the Crimson Tide.