Zach Bryan Cites Evan Felker, Jason Isbell for Inspiring His Sobriety

Zach Bryan has just released a new 8-song EP called Young Manhood and Other Donatable Organs. And to promote the EP, he’s released a two-hour interview with Matthew McConaughey, taped at Zach’s new house and property in the Lieper’s Fork area about 25 miles outside of Nashville. Zach Bryan pretty famously conducts interviews only very rarely, but made an exception when McConaughey came calling.
There’s a lot of great insight to pull from the interview about Zach Bryan’s life, his current state of mind about music, and how he sees himself at 30 transitioning from young manhood to middle manhood, and trying to move on from past lessons and mistakes. That’s part of the inspiration for the EP’s new title, and for the artwork of Bryan shooting a gun at himself—symbolizing killing his old self off each day.
The other inspiration for the EP’s title is when Bryan was in the hospital with his mother DeAnn, holding her hand in her last moments and processing his grief, and someone showed up with a clipboard asking him if he wanted to donate her organs. It felt like a metaphor for how no matter how much they give, they still want more from you at the end of your life.
Though a lot is covered in the two-hour sit down, perhaps the most intriguing part of the interview is when Zach Bryan discusses his decision to get sober. Bryan made a pretty high-profile proclamation about his sobriety earlier this year, and now says it’s been nine months since he took a drink.
When Matthew McConaughey asked him if it was easier or harder to write a song sober, Zach Bryan responds,
I’ve always drank before I wrote because I thought it had some magic Kerouac thing. I thought it bred more creativity. This is the first project I’ve ever done—this ‘Young Manhood’ thing—that I didn’t drink a lick. I wrote every word sober, and I sang every word sober. And I’ll say, it took that to prove to me that I could do it. And I think the EP’s pretty great. I always thought that I had to drink to be creative at all.
I think I’ve had this fear about because … I mean I hope he doesn’t mind me mentioning his name, he’s on the EP, but Evan Felker, he had a pretty public run-in with sobriety. And after he got sober, I was scared that his music was going to be different. And I feared that for a long time. And then he came out with “A Cat in the Rain” and “Price of Admission,” blew every expectation. I think the songs he wrote afterwards were more important than the songs he wrote before. And that changed my opinion on it completely. And when I heard that, [I thought] if he can do it, I can do it.
Evan Felker is the frontman for the Turnpike Troubadours, whose last album The Price of Admission was considered the best in country in 2025 by many. Felker and the Troubadours famously took an indefinite hiatus as Felker worked to get sober. Felker and Turnpike fiddle player Kyle Nix appear on Zach’s new song “Plainsman.”
Zach Bryan goes on to say,
[Jason] Isbell’s helped me a lot too. Isbell wrote all his greatest … he told me this … he wrote “Southeastern,” one of my favorite records of all time, after sobering up. And from that point on every record he made was to die for. And that had a lot to do with it. I did a Belting Bronco [recording session] with him recently, and he told me a lot about 15 years of sobriety and stuff. And it really changed my opinion on everything. I didn’t know that you could learn lessons at this age.
Zach Bryan also spoke extensively on how his life has changed since getting sober, and how speculative and worried he was about it before the decision. Since his career exploded and he wrote all his hits while drinking, he thought all that might go away if he stopped.
I’m not the sober type either bro, I hate that stuff. I always thought sobriety was a joke because it’s people that couldn’t control themselves celebrating not being able to control themselves. When I was drinking a lot, I always thought, ‘Why can’t you control yourself?’ I never realized I had a problem. When I was sobering up and I started drinking fake beers and stuff, I was like, ‘Man this sucks. This is not what Hemingway or Kerouac would have done.’ But then as more time went on, I started to realize what that was.
The comments come in contrast to Zach Top’s statements on the matter from earlier in the year when he said, “Sobriety is such a fad, trendy thing right now. The next person I hear say they got sober, I want to hit them in the head. We don’t need that. Just be a normal guy and drink a normal amount. You can do it your whole life. You’re fine.”
But clearly, some are not. It really depends on the individual.
What Zach Bryan’s thought process proves—and who he found inspiration through with Evan Felker and Jason Isbell—is that the old comments section line, “They were better before they got sober” is not always true. Time will tell how true or not it is for Zach Bryan.
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October 18, 2026 @ 8:21 am
Very interesting comments. I have enjoyed this EP. It’s my favorite release of his since Summertime Blues. It has a better sound than what he has done recently.
I enjoyed his song with turnpike a lot. Funny enough though despite being a good song my main reaction was on this is what Zach Bryan could sound like if he bothered with having a good band and good production on his albums. Having turnpike play on a Zach Bryan song kinda made me notice the contrast with how Zach Bryan songs usually sound
October 18, 2026 @ 12:12 pm
The lyrics seemed more ZB than Turnpike to me. Sounds like he begged Evan to name drop Lorrie.
October 19, 2026 @ 3:20 am
Lorrie name drop was lame.
October 19, 2026 @ 4:26 pm
I loved the drop. Are you even a Turnpike fan?
October 18, 2026 @ 8:48 am
Did he get sober after jumping that fence on video? Was that 9 months ago?
Good for him. Much like most sobriety cases, he didn’t know he needed it but it was clear any observant person that he did.
October 19, 2026 @ 7:20 pm
That was just over a year ago, and yes, it was shortly after that. It was very clear Zach was going through it around that time. I’m thrilled to see that he seems to really have his head on straight now.
October 18, 2026 @ 9:13 am
Good for Bryan, and I have enjoyed what I have heard so far of the EP.
On Top’s comments, all I can say is that the best country songs are written about life experiences and struggles. Whether it be heartache, being broke, dealing with death, parenthood, or getting sober, the songs that always hit me hardest are the ones where I can feel the emotion of the personal experiences and emotions of the artists.
October 18, 2026 @ 10:59 am
Happy for ZB. Haven’t had a moment yet to listen to the ep but want to. It’s been a joy watching him and his music evolve. Nestled between Jason Isbell and Evan Felker is a nice place to sit. Was always pissed I didn’t pull the trigger on ZB/Trampled by Turtles tickets while in Lincokn NE a while back but def will jump on his tickets near me this time
October 18, 2026 @ 12:16 pm
This guy has fooled me too many times. I can’t allow it to happen again. Not even giving this one a listen. I’m sure it’s a fine listen through- but I’m going to give my Spotify time and album purchases this year to Ian, Wyatt, Benjamin and Bella.
October 19, 2026 @ 7:21 pm
Lol, not sure what this is even supposed to mean. Fooled you one too many times?
October 20, 2026 @ 5:51 pm
Maybe BigDarby needs to get sober
October 20, 2026 @ 10:20 am
Why them? Are they the only four people you think have made good independent music this year? No argument with their inclusion, but you’re missing out on a lot of good stuff.
October 18, 2026 @ 1:31 pm
He needs to thank Gavin Adcock.
October 18, 2026 @ 2:10 pm
But sobered up drunks who are assholes while drunk, unfortunately don’t suddenly sweeten up when they get sober. In fact, a lot of things don’t actually change. Not advocating one thing or another here, but becoming sober is not a panacea and should not be advocated as a cure-all. It isn’t. Most sober-drunks have all the same issues, only now they need a new outlet for the abuse.
October 18, 2026 @ 2:44 pm
Getting sober just stripped away the paint on the outhouse that I had been so focused on covering up for sure. Haven’t stopped working on the underlying actual issues since then because I’ll go back to drinking in order to just die if I don’t. Also agree that complete sobriety isn’t always necessary for all, especially if they do the work. But I’m certainly sticking to safe over sorry, I know the calm that comes when one really gives up for reals, and that is the scariest thing I’ve ever experienced and I will do anything to keep myself from going there again.
October 19, 2026 @ 8:31 pm
Have you listened to Ashley McBryde’s album Wild? There are a few songs that kind of cover her journey into therapy and sobriety in various ways. She’s been super public about that process as well
October 21, 2026 @ 7:33 pm
It’s a masterpiece. She has 4 + years of sobriety under her belt and continues to do the work. Exercise, extensive therapy, replacement habits and writing. Ashley’s voice sounds better than ever as well.
October 19, 2026 @ 8:54 am
You’re not wrong, but sobriety is the wall between neutrality or further devolution and real change. The excuse is gone. A drunk asshole is someone who shouldn’t drink. A sober asshole is just an asshole.
October 19, 2026 @ 1:10 pm
But they also have a chance to actually deal with those issues, once they’ve stopped numbing them with alcohol.
October 18, 2026 @ 2:40 pm
18 months here and man I thought booze made me a Kerouac or a Hemingway too until I was almost 40 😂 have always loved and respected Bryan’s music, stoked for this one even more having read this. Been out of the loop so jumping on it now!
October 18, 2026 @ 2:45 pm
I feel like I’m a better commenter when I’ve been drinking and doing drugs
October 18, 2026 @ 3:16 pm
He seems like a good guy. But if he makes this big show of getting sober and involves all his heros in it and then turns around and crashes out he’s going to have big egg on his face. Isbell is known for throwing friends under the bus when they are having a hard time too and he loves to revel in sanctimony. Maybe he should try again to mend things with John Moreland.. but he seems like a difficult person to get along with drunk or sober.
October 18, 2026 @ 5:49 pm
Isbell comes across to me as more of a dry drunk than sober. Then again it can take many years, even decades, to recover from the kind of damage brought on from the lifestyle Isbell once lived.
October 19, 2026 @ 1:19 pm
Isbell replaced his alcoholism with holier-than-thou morality.
October 21, 2026 @ 7:38 am
Then you should be a big fan.
October 22, 2026 @ 8:23 am
Seems like just a different kind of dope-sick, eh?
Love a lot of his music; I just try to avoid articles about him or interviews as much as possible.
October 19, 2026 @ 7:26 pm
I’m not sure there’s anything to be mended with Moreland on Zach’s end. Don’t you recall that nothing with that was on Zach, but Moreland himself? Zach landed that $350mil+ record deal shortly after that self-titled EP and song he did with John. Then John, just out of the blue, went on and blasted Zach saying that Warner Records sure did spend a lot of money on the “dollar store version of me (Moreland).” What about that needs mending from Zach?
October 20, 2026 @ 3:49 pm
Huh?
I’ve hung out with Zach a couple times.
I like Zach (even Drunk Zach).
I entirely understand why Moreland had zero time for Drunk Zach.
October 18, 2026 @ 3:49 pm
It appeared at least in the media that he was spiraling a bit as he became more and more famous. Good for him for taking to steps to turn that around. I know a few people that never are or were able to put the booze down and it’s not usually fun to be around them. Haven’t had a chance to listen to this EP yet but I will give it a spin tomorrow.
October 19, 2026 @ 7:30 pm
I thought the same thing. People gotta recall that this dude was literally chucked into megastardom. That’s a lot to take in for anyone when it’s not a gradual build-up. I’m thrilled to see this sit-down interview with Matthew. It seems like Zach really has his head on straight and seems a lot more settled down. Hope it stays that way.
October 18, 2026 @ 6:24 pm
I listened to his new EP. A couple of decent somgs. I like the plainsmen a bit and the duet with lana del ray , lies, is pretty good though i would prob like it better with just her like i liked purple gas better with just noeline. But im not a big fan so its not for my benefit.
October 18, 2026 @ 7:16 pm
And the piss they call tequila even Waylon wouldn’t drink
I’d rather sip this listerine I packed
But I swear we’d never seen a better place to sit and think
God bless the busted ship that brings us back…..
October 18, 2026 @ 7:47 pm
It’s probably just older Gen-X reaching the age of “I don’t get the music kids are listening to these days,” but . . .I don’t get the appeal of Zach Bryan. I read once- maybe here on SCM- that to “Emmylou” a song was to sing in such a way that you can’t really understand the words, though I do think that’s a bit unfair to Ms. Harris. I don’t think it’s unfair to ZB, though, to say he Emmylou’d this EP half to death. His vocal was too far down in the mix and he doesn’t have great enunciation, and. . . well, I just don’t get it. Maybe I’m listening to the wrong cuts. On the other hand, driving back home tonight I listened to the new Pony Bradshaw album that Trigger recommended and my first thought was, “damn, now THAT’s a songwriter,” and someone who knows how to put their songs in the right instrumental context.
October 19, 2026 @ 5:58 am
Think it’s fine to not like Zach Bryan he’s very much appealing to a sensibility I would describe as specifically generational. It’s not for Gen X and that’s fine. But one thing I have learned, when something is popular but you don’t like it, the thing you don’t like about it is specifically what’s appealing to others
October 19, 2026 @ 11:08 am
I don’t know, I’m Gen X, and Zach speaks to me for sure. I think he’s this generation’s Springsteen and have for a few years. I think I relate to him because he comes from a similar background as I do, and I lived my 20s going “Kerouacing,” as he calls it in his interview with McConaughey. Plus his sound recalls some of the Gen X Americana acts, and Mellencamp at times, and as a Hoosier from a very small town that’s the easiest way to get to my heart. Anyway, I think he speaks to some truths and experiences that transcend generations.
October 19, 2026 @ 11:20 am
Brody and Harris you make good points so let me ask: if I wanted to give ZB another listen what’s the best example of his music? Please note I like lots of younger acts it’s just ZB in particular I haven’t grokked.
October 19, 2026 @ 11:30 am
I think summertime blues is his best both in sound and writing but also in length
October 19, 2026 @ 1:21 pm
I’m a big fan of Elisabeth…but I also LOVE incredibly lo-fi campfire guitar stuff.
I’d probably rate Quiet Heavy Dreams as his best combo of raw songwriting and polished production.
October 20, 2026 @ 2:07 pm
I second all of the above recs: Summertime Blues seems to be a lot of people’s favorite. I do love Elizabeth, a very lo fi, mainly acoustic record that’s kind of somber. Quiet Heavy Dreams is absolutely one of my favorites. So yeah, all of those.
If you dig what you hear there, I really do think his self titled record is a masterpiece. It’s when he started really expanding his sound and incorporating all sorts of different elements, which I think made some people pause, but for me that album really spoke to me. I was moving from Indiana to Minnesota when it came out and it sort of became the soundtrack for that move and my adjustment from a more southern influenced Appalachian adjacent culture to this very northern place that simply does not know how to make fried chicken or cornbread. Listen to Hey Driver or Oklahoman Son and you’ll get what I’m saying. Hope you dig it.
October 22, 2026 @ 8:36 am
I hear everything you’re saying and identify with a lot of it (age, Midwest background, etc.). And I still don’t quite get Zach Bryan. I like some songs, and I think he can turn a phrase occasionally. At the same time, a lot of his songs feel unfinished, and he seems to think he’s a little more clever and deep than he really is.
October 19, 2026 @ 3:21 am
I’m not sure if Felker has cited Kerouac but he’s directly quoted Hemingway in “you’d married that girl, you’d’ve married her family.”
Both Felker and Bryan certainly know Kerouac died of cirrhosis and Hemingway by suicide.
October 19, 2026 @ 5:31 pm
I was surprised to see both of those guys mentioned by anyone under 40. Some legends never die.
October 20, 2026 @ 9:59 am
Zach Bryan purchased Jack Kerouac’s childhood church building with the intent to turn it into a Kerouac center. It’s the old St. Jean Baptiste church in Lowell Mass, which was desacralized (or whatever the word is) some years back as part of the Roman Catholic Church retrenching its properties. I believe the Kerouac preservation people had been trying to do this for some years till Bryan stepped up with the cash to make it a reality.
It’ll be interesting to see what happens with it. Lowell has always had a contentious relationship with Kerouac. Maybe some of that has faded as he’s gone from a living memory to a line in the history books.
All that to say, Kerouac is not just a name for Bryan, he put his money where his mouth is.
October 19, 2026 @ 5:17 am
Cute of Zach to need sobriety from drinking a few budlights with friends but I find the story of J. Killen’s sobriety far more intriguing, as well as the two incredible (and actual country) albums he released this year. Worth reviewing Trigg I know you’d like.
October 19, 2026 @ 6:28 am
the guy with the edgelord gamertag thinks someone getting sober is cute huh
October 19, 2026 @ 7:14 am
i’m happy to say i dont know what either of those phrases mean. but peace be with you and cheers.
October 19, 2026 @ 11:05 am
Mocking someone for getting sober? Seriously?
Getting sober is important for many people. Good on Zach for trying to get his life in order.
October 19, 2026 @ 3:30 pm
Actually by accepting Zach’s bs story about getting sober you are mocking sober. We all know Zach is a bit of a douche in his personal life and is using alcohol as an excuse for his poor character. Hence the mea culpa mcconnaghey tour and the timely autobio. He’s using sobriety as a vehicle for better PR. Blaming a substance sometimes is easier than actually changing. And clearly based on my comments about an actual addict J. Killen I’m not mocking sober. But I can tell that you are sober bc your orthodoxy is showing. Oops. How dare I
October 19, 2026 @ 7:07 am
Congrats to the famous and not famous folks discovering and living a clearer life without drugs. It all depends on whether or not you have a dependency, but this focus group of one believes…
“They were better before they got sober” is probably FALSE close to 100% of the time as it relates to being a better human and being your best self.
October 19, 2026 @ 7:31 am
I’m glad he quit drinking, but his story feels a bit cliché. That said, quitting alcohol is a positive decision for several important health reasons. Alcohol is an inflammatory substance that can contribute to digestive issues and impair the liver’s ability to filter toxins effectively, increasing the risk of fatty liver disease and other liver-related conditions.
Alcohol consumption is also associated with an increased risk of several types of cancer. When the body breaks down alcohol, it produces acetaldehyde, a toxic compound that can damage DNA and cells. This process has been linked to a higher risk of breast, colorectal, esophageal, liver, mouth, throat, and laryngeal cancers.
While the story itself may not be unique, the health benefits of quitting alcohol are significant and well-documented. It is easy to say you quit drinking because of bad decisions, but there is a unique honesty in someone admitting they quit simply because it gives them the sh!ts.
October 19, 2026 @ 8:21 am
Male singers who sound like they’re crying and whining like little babies, music that glorifies booze as a badge of honor and/or a legitimate way of life, boring retreaded music, horrible messages to kids coming up, and y’all are laughing all the way to the bank. And here some sob story about getting sober as if Bryan should be held out as some life hero. This is all marketing 🐂💩
October 19, 2026 @ 8:45 am
My fifteen year old granddaughter saw Zach in concert in Auburn AL last week. She’s a big fan and loved it as are a lot of her friends which shows he’s got a multi-generation fan base out there.
October 21, 2026 @ 5:28 am
It seems Zach Bryan and Olivia Rodrigo are two of the biggest artists where both parents and their kids equally enjoy together.
October 19, 2026 @ 12:33 pm
Whether you need an exterior substance to augment your mind or not, fighting with your internal demons is a hefty battle. Being able to deal with them and getting past needing a substance as a crutch is a massive milestone that most “regular” people will never realize has happened to you. Regardless of musical quality from here on, hopefully his quality of life is only going to get better.
After battling with my own demons, it’s great to see these people are acting as a catalyst to help bring everyone up.
And hopefully anyone else fighting their own battles can use these gentlemen as inspiration to achieve their own victories.
October 19, 2026 @ 3:50 pm
Bryan is wrong. Felker’s best music came before, not after, the hiatus.
October 19, 2026 @ 4:23 pm
You’re just being contrarian to be contrarian, CountryKnight, which is getting very tired. “The Price of Admission” was extremely well-received, and specifically because of Evan Felker’s songwriting. It definitely refutes the comment section theory that artists suck after they get sober. You might disagree personally about Felker. But stating as if it’s matter-of-fact Felker was better before is sophistry.
October 20, 2026 @ 5:26 am
To add to your point Trigger, even if someone disagrees about Felker, I can’t imagine anyone could say in good faith that they believe Isbell’s best songs were pre sobriety. And Zach’s ultimate point isn’t actually about an objective measure of quality before/after, but rather an insecurity of whether he was capable of being creative without alcohol.
When your literary idols are Kerouac and Hemingway, I can see why a young man would get caught up in the imagery that they projected at their best and try to emulate that, intentionally or not.
On a related note, news about Zach always brings out some really strange responses. I’m surprised at how many people are either doubtful of his sobriety and/or alluding to it being performative. I’m not a huge gossip guy, but when you look at many of his public incidences, they are clearly driven by alcohol. If you just listened to his music at all, you can see many allusions to a drinking problem from the very beginning.
The alcoholism isn’t an excuse and the decision to get sober isn’t a get of jail free card. But once you strip away the alcohol, you can start to reflect on why you are the way that you are, and try to be better.
October 20, 2026 @ 8:12 am
Trigger,
I said nothing about Felker being sober. I have been consistent since the reunion that the best Turnpike music existed before the hiatus. Shooter’s production has dimmed the band’s sound and muted the writing.
Nothing since the reunion has touched the excellent songwriting of “The Bird Hunters” or the brilliance of “Diamonds & Gasoline.”
October 20, 2026 @ 5:18 am
You forgot—what a coincidence—the part where he mentions Morgan Wallen, with whom he’s spoken several times about Nashville, leading him to change his mind. In short, his whole “anti-Nashville industry” persona no longer exists. “Lies,” his track with Lana Del Rey, was produced by one of Wallen’s co-writers.
October 20, 2026 @ 6:56 am
It was a two hour interview. The whole thing is not going to be transcribed here point for point. Instead, the decision was made to focus on Zach’s sobriety, in part because it mentions and highlights two independent songwriters.
October 23, 2026 @ 5:09 am
Or this confirms that you in the media and newspapers attack Wallen and this guy the same things but you don’t criticize him. He created his character against Nashville and now he’s doing the exact opposite.
October 20, 2026 @ 5:26 am
I’ve not drunk alcohol for over 10 years where’s my fkn gold star ?!
October 20, 2026 @ 8:18 am
Man, it’s the internet and you can say whatever. But good God, some of y’all need to take a long look in the mirror and sit in a pew more often.
“I don’t like him or his music. But if sobriety makes him a healthier and happier person, good on him.”
Is that shit really that hard to say? Is it really that hard to not be a total scumbag on the Internet?
October 20, 2026 @ 8:48 am
…trump and his “america-first”-gospel is showing serious effects on the average joe or karen there. soon the world will have to praise americans for being able to butter toast all by themselves too. how about a giant fridge door full of star stickers as a fitting memorial for that president and some of his fellow americans.
October 20, 2026 @ 9:46 am
Tom,
Why in God’s name would you leave this comment, on this website, and specifically, this article? Was it meant to be a response to something? I ask people to not veer into political discussions in these comments sections, especially when politics isn’t involved. This is a perfect example of when NOT to evoke politics, and am only leaving this comment up to illustrate this. All a comment like this does is create a vector for others to come and leave political comments, taking the attention away from the topic at hand. Please, respect this request from refraining from comments like this.
October 21, 2026 @ 3:43 am
…and why are you regularly bringing up prominently that country stars that got sober may be worthwhile news? ain’t it enough that they already push it down the audience’s throat as almost the 8th wonder of the world when it happens. particularly, when they suddenly decide to do it in a strangely evangelical fashion. zero tolerance it’s got to be then and nothing less would do but the good ol’ redemption, which is by the way as sick as being a drinker – just physically and societal less harmful. i’m just kinda tired of hearing how great it is to be dry. wrong, it’s great to be able to drink or not to drink “responsibly” just like that. not even having to spend a thought about it, because one’s a grown-up and one knows what’s good for one’s wellbeing. at least more often than not.
the really interesting question may be – in a strict country music context which you seem to advocate: are the works of those converts actually better than the ones they made when being alcoholics? isbell, felker, jinks, stapleton, mcbryde or bryan would make an interesting sample for such a comparison, wouldn’t they?
by the way, since alcohol is taxed and alcoholism puts a pretty big burden on health care systems everywhere – it is highly political. not that those light-at-the-bottom-of-the- bottle-witnesses would have bothered much anyway. after all, alcohol ain’t quite a brain improver. most topics have wider implications. that’s where trump enters the frame – as with almost anything the u.s.a. cast on the rest of us these days: america’s currently (at least we hope) bizarre beacon.
and just a final little thought: ain’t it funny that not even those, who must find it harder and harder to fill up the vans to get to the next gig, aren’t voicing their difficulties noticeably. but perhaps life is still quite comfortable enough there at the bottom end of the country music food chain. or it’s perhaps just the genre’s grand paradox: no spine beats spine at the box office any night.
October 22, 2026 @ 1:00 pm
ok this thread is a fkn hilarious work of non sequiter art haha! thanks for the laugh