Zach Bryan Can’t Win for Winning

Heavy is the head that wears the crown. And right now, the crown in music is firmly ensconced on Zach Bryan’s crew cut and curiously-large corn-fed Oklahoma head. As the owner of the top slot on both the Billboard Hot 100 songs chart and the Billboard 200 Albums chart, there is nobody bigger, in country music or any other genre at the moment than Zach Bryan.
With that incredible achievement always comes an elevated level of scrutiny, as it should. It also comes with an incredibly encumbering burden for the artist to maintain their perspective and equilibrium in a world where they’re foisted into being the center of attention. That’s much easier said than done as the public and the opportunistic press leer in the shadows waiting for any and all missteps to lampoon and exploit.
There’s an old saying in country music: look out for a hillbilly with a hit record. In Zach Bryan’s case, it has nothing to do with all night benders or extravagant shopping sprees. Despite the current circumstances, Zach Bryan continues to come across as curiously grounded, humble, contrite, even starry-eyed in certain circumstances. Nobody is more aware that Zach Bryan is punching above his weight class more than Zach Bryan.
His current troubles are quite a bit different than what we’ve seen from the likes of Morgan Wallen when he was careening out of control, let alone oldtimers like George Jones and Johnny Cash when they were ballin’ out back in the day. Folks are angry at Zach Bryan because he was one of the few if only people in popular music in the modern era to actively take on Ticketmaster and offer affordable tickets. Yet when fans still couldn’t secure spots because demand still dramatically outpaced supply, they weren’t understanding of the situation and still appreciative of his efforts. They came for his head anyway.
So now Zach Bryan is saying “screw it,” and booking arenas and letting Ticketmaster do their worst. Because either way, fans were going to complain and blame him. So why expend the Herculean effort that Zach and his team underwent to take on the Ticketmaster/LiveNation monopoly when his own fans are ultimately going to go on the attack?
Sure, Zach’s Ticketmaster work around could have been rolled out and implemented better. But don’t think the fat cats at Ticketmaster weren’t cackling as Zach’s plan suffered from logistical snafus and incessant complaints from patrons. Now Zach Bryan fans are shelling out $300 for seats in the nosebleeds, if they can get them. Is that Ticketmaster’s fault, or the fault of demand? No, it’s still Zach Bryan’s. Giving up his Ticketmaster fight isn’t hypocritical. It was inevitable. Because like the law, Ticketmaster always wins.
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And then there is this arrest incident, which in truth is tantamount to a popcorn fart of an infraction if there ever was one. I have to be frank. I’m really surprised that it seems like a large share of the public sentiment has landed on the side of Zach Bryan being a self-entitled crybaby in the incident, and deserving of what he got. No doubt Zach made some mistakes in the moment, and he’s apologized vociferously for those mistakes, as well apologizing for things he probably shouldn’t have.
But the people using this as some sort of indictment of Zach Bryan’s character feel a bit out of line. In the United States, we’ve become so accustomed to the overreaching power of the police state, the idea of detaining a completely non threatening individual, restraining them with handcuffs, taking away their freedom and incarcerating them behind bars, taking a mugshot and fingerprints in the same we do murderers and rapists is just seen as commonplace. In truth, it should be scandalous and alarming every time this occurs.
Yes, I’ve seen the dash cam video. In no way did Zach Bryan interfere with the police officer, or the discharging of his duties or any investigation. Zach Bryan pulled up beside his security guard’s vehicle that had been pulled over for speeding, and he started talking to the security guard through the passenger side window. The police officer was still in his car at the time. It was the officer that got out of the patrol car and confronted Zach Bryan, not vice versa.
Zach Bryan has the right to be in that public space, and to observe and even record the police executing their duties according to Oklahoma State Law §21-540. I would understand if Zach Bryan got in the way of the officer, went to the officer’s squad car and knocked on the window, or if he’d gone over the the driver’s side of his security guard’s vehicle in a way that could impede the officer’s duties. None of this occurred.
When the police officer saw Zach Bryan approach the security guard’s vehicle, he got out of the squad car and confronted him.
“Hey, whatcha doing?” the officer says.
“I’m wondering why it’s taking so long,” Zach answered, which is his right to inquire about.
The officer answers, “It’s not any of your business. You need to get back in your truck because you’re interfering with an officer discharging duties right now. You need to get back in your truck or go to jail, I don’t care which.”
This was a dramatic and unnecessary escalation of the situation. Zach Bryan was not being aggressive to the officer, Zach Bryan had not said anything flippant or disrespectful to the officer, Zach Bryan was not impinging upon the officer or his investigation or execution of his duties in any way, and Zach Bryan had every right—if not an obligation—to make sure his employee (the security guard) was being fairly treated.
The officer immediately took Zach Bryan’s inquiry about why the traffic stop was taking so long, and escalated it to an ultimatum of either getting back into his truck, or going to jail. The officer was not in the wrong necessarily to ask Zach to get back in his truck, but Zach Bryan didn’t have to. As long as Zach was not physically getting in the way of the police officer, he had every right to be there. The police officer could have asked Zach to move back to a reasonable distance. But he has no right demand Zach Bryan get back in his truck or face incarceration, or tell Zach where to go specifically.
When given an unfair and unreasonable ultimatum, Zach Bryan decided to stand his ground. Granted, anyone who has been in that situation before will tell you the best move is to just say “Yes sir!,” get back in the truck, and swallow any indignant feelings you might have. It’s especially easy to make that call in hindsight. But that doesn’t make the situation right. That’s just the way the American public has been conditioned. You must obey the orders, even if the orders make no sense, and even if the officer is being unreasonable or is in the wrong. You don’t want to go to jail, do you?
That is what happened here, plain and simple. Zach Bryan was given an ultimatum that is not compliant with Oklahoma law. If I were to guess, the case will be thrown out eventually, because the officer was unreasonable with his request, and was the party that escalated the situation.
It’s what happened afterwards that has many people characterizing Zach Bryan as entitled and a crybaby. Though the police officer escalated the situation initially, it’s a possibility he would have eventually taken the handcuffs off of Zach Bryan and let him go with a warning after completing the traffic stop. But Zach had to continue to complain and run his mouth, with many selecting certain things he said as an indictment of his character, including the notorious, “Do you know who I am?”
This was not Zach Bryan’s finest moment. But nobody knows this more than Zach Bryan. That’s why he immediately apologized, twice, and on the day of the incident. Even during the worst moment of Zach’s time in the front of the police car, you could tell he was having an internal conflict within himself. His impulse was to resist and be angry because he was the victim of an unjust situation. But he also had an inherent respect for the officer, as well as a survival instinct to continue to refer to him as “sir.”
The way Zach Bryan portrayed the incident and the mistakes he made in the 4-minute video he posted were mostly the way the police report reads, and how the dash cam footage unfolds. There are some timeline discrepancies maybe, but he was honest with the public and his fans about what happened, and apologized.
for the sake of transparency on yesterday pic.twitter.com/IJRjEDOrCH
— Zach Bryan (@zachlanebryan) September 8, 2023
It’s easy for any of us to peer into this situation, pass judgement, and say we would have handled it completely differently, even if this isn’t true, especially if you were Zach Bryan, and were the biggest thing in all of music at the moment. If I was there, I wouldn’t have gotten back into the truck. I would have told the officer that I had a right to observe the situation as long as I wasn’t impeding or disrupting his actions, which Zach wasn’t doing at that time. Zach lost his cool because what transpired next seemed unjust, because it was.
This isn’t an anti-police stance to take. Overall, the officer involved seemed to be very reasonable after Zach Bryan was handcuffed and placed in the squad car, even while Zach was being interruptive. And again, the officer might have let Zach go, if only from fear of having to do a bunch of paperwork. As far as Zach Bryan’s dad saying he was going to “call the governor,” that’s just a dad being a dad. Zach Bryan’s dad has lurked in the comments section of this very website before defending Zach. That’s what dads do.
Too often in the United States, routine and sometimes completely unnecessary traffic stops for driving a few miles above the speed limit, not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign, or for having a busted taillight become unnecessarily conflicts between police officers and citizens, and sometimes deadly ones. This just doesn’t happen in other countries. As some have pointed out, if Zach Bryan had been Black or Brown, he probably wouldn’t have been treated nearly as well as he was. He would have been placed in the back of the patrol car, and probably not allowed to mouth off to the officers in a similar manner.
The biggest story in the United States the day after Zach Bryan’s arrest (Sept. 8th) was how Philadelphia police officer Mark Dial was arrested for the murder of 27-year-old Eddie Irizarry stemming from an attempted traffic pullover. Officer Dial shot Irizarry seven seconds after getting out of his car, firing a total of six rounds through the victim’s closed door and window. Police falsely claimed initially that Irizarry lunged at police with a weapon, and they also believed the victim had a gun. Body camera footage disproved the lunging claim, and no gun was ever found.
Over the last nine months, Saving Country Music has been investigating the case of 4-time Grammy-winning country music engineer Mark Capps, who was shot and killed himself through the closed front door of his own home after a similar and yet unproved claim that he made an aggressive move toward officers with a gun. The police have been proven to have misled the public in that case as well. But since he wasn’t famous, or a minority, there’s not an appetite in Nashville to even report on the matter, let alone to be outraged or make it to the national news. No charges have been filed, and Metro Nashville has not even admitted to the mistakes made.
The police are out there putting their lives on the line every day too, and they deserve our respect, and compliance in certain circumstances. But the citizens deserve respect back as well. As Zach Bryan said during the incident, he’s just a kid. It sounds like he said he was 24, but he’s actually 27. Either way, he served our country for seven years in the Navy. As he told the officer during the incident, he’s shown respect for law enforcement over the years and comped them tickets to his show. He’s no menace to society. We’re not protecting anyone by incarcerating him behind bars and taking his mugshot.
Who knows what any of us would have done, and how embarrassing we would have acted in that situation ourselves. At least for most of us, it wouldn’t have made it on all the major nightly news broadcasts. We’re not famous enough for that. But just like it’s distinctly American to incarcerate people over the most petty and sometimes non-existent infractions, it’s also distinctively American to overinflated average individuals through stardom, and when they make even the slightest misstep, tear them down and lampoon them to make us feel better about ourselves and our own puny little lives.
Zach Bryan will be fine. And instead of reminiscing back about how bad he handled the situation, he’ll be lampooned for how his “Outlaw” moment was so tame compared to the previous infractions of country music stars.
It all reminds me of a song by another artist from Oklahoma, the extraordinary JJ Cale. In 1972 he released the song “If You’re Ever in Oklahoma” on his album Really. It’s since been covered by numerous artists from Oklahoma and beyond, including Cody Canada.
If you’re ever in Oklahoma
You better move around the law
They got fines and they got plenty
They’ll hold you up for days on end
Threaten your life and take your money
Make you think you’re there to stay
Over 50 years ago JJ Cale was warning you about the overreaching and punitive nature of Oklahoma’s law enforcement. Some things never change, especially in northeast Oklahoma. But maybe they should. And maybe just like Willie Nelson and Paul Cauthen showing their wrists to the police when they were arrested for possession of a plant, which is now legal in Oklahoma and many other states, this Zach Bryan incident should be used as an example of how ridiculous some of our interfacing with law enforcement is in the United States.
Whether it was the Tickemaster monopoly, or a situation where the police in Oklahoma were running a speed trap and harassing otherwise law-abiding citizens, Zach Bryan saw something that he believed was unjust, and spoke up. This is what we should want from our music stars. We should want them to use their positions of power to challenge the system. That is what Zach Bryan has done with his career as a country artist decidedly outside of the mainstream country Music Row system upsetting the apple cart through his success.
Zach Bryan is not perfect. None of us are. But blaming him for taking on the Ticketmaster system and then giving up when his fans proved to be self-entitled whiners, or standing up to the cops and their silly little speed trap? Nah. I’ll save my criticisms for the music.
September 10, 2023 @ 8:45 am
Damn, serious props for the way you challenged certain perspectives in your last two articles. Not as hard as I’d like, mind, but much more than I thought you would ever go. I’m impressed.
September 11, 2023 @ 8:07 pm
Agreed. Outstanding article Trig.
September 10, 2023 @ 8:52 am
Very well said
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September 10, 2023 @ 8:56 am
Bringing in the lyrics of that particular JJ Cale song to help make your point. Now, that’s a home run right there. Never let it be said that Trigger doesn’t have style.
And they don’t care about Dallas, Texas
And they don’t care about Wichita…
September 10, 2023 @ 9:12 am
very well written
September 10, 2023 @ 9:18 am
I agree with every word you wrote.
As for people’s reactions, society loves to build people up just to tear them down. It’s this country’s beige flag.
I said Bryan’s AXS/ lottery partnership would fail. It did not fail. It was never sustainable because he’d be boxed out of major cities that TM & LV monopolize (there were 4 cities on the Burn, Burn, Burn tour I never knew existed), but Bryan got the most out of a doomed experiment.
I like Bryan the person for his convictions and fortitude to take a stand. He fights for his fans, his team, the forgotten and despaired, and this damned country.
September 10, 2023 @ 9:57 am
The whole thing was overblown. Zach has the right to question anything he chooses to question. He didn’t get in the way of anything or anyone. Non-compliance, especially in the times we live in, is more important than ever. That being said his comments at the end did him no favors. The emotion of the moment got the better of his common sense.
September 10, 2023 @ 10:12 am
….”As some have pointed out, if Zach Bryan had been Black or Brown, he probably wouldn’t have been treated nearly as well as he was. He would have been placed in the back of the patrol car, and probably not allowed to mouth off to the officers in a similar manner.”……
Trig,
This quote from you has no basis in reality. There is no data, statistic, or evidence to support the implication you’re making, and you’re a s**t-slinging propagandist piece of s**t for repeating it over and over as if it’s true. You not only harm your credibility, but as someone with a relatively large platform, you do damage to your country. You’re despicable and you should apologize in shame.
That being said, I found myself sort of seeing your point about Zach’s right to be in the area. What I think you miss though, is the fact that the cop just wanted him to get out of the immediate vicinity of the car where he was trying to perform his duties. It seems clear to me that he just said, “get back in your truck”, because that made the most sense as it was the closest place for Zach to go. I have no doubt that if Zach had just moved out of the way, the cop would have been fine. But instead of deploying common sense, Zach decided to F around and find out. He could’ve easily observed the situation from a few yards further away.
I also realize that from the security of your keyboard in your mother’s basement in Austin????, you have no idea of the real-life safety threats a cop has to consider every time they face the public, particularly in this day and age. They must be permitted to perform their duty with a reasonable expectation of personal safety.
I’m not a pro-cop guy in principle, because I recognize that way too many of them are in it for the wrong reasons and are willing to be transactional goons as opposed to true civil servants. But I am a law-and-order guy, and cops serve that purpose. The cop in this video was good ol boy, who was just trying to write a speeding ticket. Zach Bryan, who at 27 stopped being a “kid” 9 years ago, is an entitled grown man, who thinks he and his buddies should get special treatment because he’s a celebrity.
September 10, 2023 @ 11:22 am
“The cop in this video was (a) good ol boy…”
Yeah, and I’m sure if Zach was a Black guy with a head full of dreads, the cop would have put him in the front seat, and apologized for having to put the cuffs on so fast as he was being mouthed off to. Unless he played linebacker for State.
As I said in my quote, “As some have pointed out, if Zach Bryan had been Black or Brown, he probably wouldn’t have been treated nearly as well as he was.”
I am simply giving voice to that perspective. When it comes to racial profiling by the police, there are studies that say it is rampant, and studies that say it’s non-existent. I don’t know which ones are true because I don’t deal in crime statistics. But it is at least up for debate, and worth raising in this context.
As I said in the article, I don’t necessarily fault the cop. After the initial ultimatum, he seemed to be reasonable and rational like he was willing to let Zach go, but Zach had to be a motor mouth.
September 10, 2023 @ 2:29 pm
Here in the state of Oklahoma, highway patrol always puts you in the front seat no matter your color. Unless of course you’re completely out of control.
Also, you can’t go walking up to a car and start talking to someone who is pulled over with the cop sitting in patrol car running his license. That’s just dumb. I even seen it on live pd several times all over the country. Cop tells em to get away or they’re going to jail for obstruction. Normal people will listen, dip shits wind up in jail. Zach was the latter.
September 10, 2023 @ 7:58 pm
….”Yeah, and I’m sure if Zach was a Black guy with a head full of dreads, the cop would have put him in the front seat, and apologized for having to put the cuffs on so fast as he was being mouthed off to. Unless he played linebacker for State.”…..
Are you just mouthing to mouth? You have no evidence that that cop would’ve treated a black dude any differently than he treated Zach.
….”When it comes to racial profiling by the police, there are studies that say it is rampant, and studies that say it’s non-existent. I don’t know which ones are true because I don’t deal in crime statistics. But it is at least up for debate, and worth raising in this context.”…..
Let’s level set here. The idea that cops are generally racist has no basis in reality, and the notion they are is a Communist myth meant to turn blacks against the system, to weaponize them for destruction. You helping to advance that myth makes you in the wrong. You’re at best misinformed, and at worst willingly complicit. You should stop. You’re doing harm, not good.
Racial profiling, on the other hand, is something entirely different, and I don’t know if it’s being deployed, but I think a discussion should be had around whether or not it should be. Why shouldn’t the police use data to make decisions that will keep them safer? If we have data that shows a high rate of violent crime within a certain demographic, we should obviously be trying to find out the cause in order to fix it, but in the meantime, until it’s fixed, if the police can use that data to make themselves safer, I don’t see why they shouldn’t… and it wouldn’t matter to me which races were being profiled. Insurance companies profile you based on age and sex, and everybody understands why.
September 10, 2023 @ 9:05 pm
Honky,
This article is not about race and policing in America. I gave a passing acknowledgement that some people had said the outcome may have been significantly different if he was of a different race. You have a right to disagree with that notion, which you’ve made it clear you do. I’m really not interested in getting into this topic any further with you.
September 11, 2023 @ 3:52 pm
Actually, it turned into that discourse the minute contributors strayed off the focus of ZB and t(his) singular incident and mentioned policing” and “race”.
ZB should not have put himself in this position to begin with. He has a right to be in public like the “rest of us” – and with that is obligated to comport himself like “the rest of us”. Observe, watch take pics, fine, but when told to move on, do so. Since ZB is now a “celebrity”, he should realize he has more at stake than “the rest of us” if he acts like an entitled social justice warrior (insert sarcasm here).
And as far as the police, there are bad apples in every bunch; tired of “social justice warriors” damning all of them.
October 30, 2023 @ 3:30 pm
You don’t know whether it’s true or not, b/c you’re not black or brown and have no clue how different people are treated b/c they are such. Not just by cops – managers at retail stores, teachers in schools, loan officers at banks, servers at restaurants, and the list goes on.
September 11, 2023 @ 12:55 pm
If Zach was black or brown he likely would have went for the cop’s gun and Rolling Stone would have articles not including that fact. (Michael Brown reference amongst many for anyone clueless of the reference)
September 10, 2023 @ 12:32 pm
Ugh oh – KHOC is getting “indoctrinated” by reality, and he’s not responding well…
I shudder to think what will happen if KHOC ever accidentally listens to Charley Pride or Stoney Edwards…
September 10, 2023 @ 12:49 pm
I can vouch that Honky is actually a big fan of Charley Pride and Stoney Edwards, surprising as that might be.
September 10, 2023 @ 7:32 pm
How is that surprising?
Honky likes prime country music.
Edwards and Pride are 100 times more country than most artists championed here.
September 10, 2023 @ 8:01 pm
Trig,
Why would it be surprising that someone who was raised on C(c)ountry Music enjoys listening to one of the 10 best C(c)ountry singers of all time, and an obscure guy who is one of the most underrated C(c)ountry singers of all time?
Kindly explain your logic for why that is surprising.
September 11, 2023 @ 9:24 am
Pride wasn’t an O(o)utlaw singer, so his brand of country music isn’t championed here.
The plain truth is Pride was more country than Waylon or Willie ever were.
September 11, 2023 @ 9:43 am
the left wing sjw author of this blog is trying to accuse you of being racist. thinking because you bring up verified facts on crime or police statistics means you couldn’t possibly listen to Charley Pride….
September 11, 2023 @ 11:07 am
VernTobyTrace,
I know. I just wanted to see if he’d say it out loud and explain why and try to justify his logic objectively, as opposed to relying on the zeitgeist.
And for the record, the fact he even allows my comments to post says something good about his integrity. I’m not convinced he’s a leftist. I just think he’s someone who has never really thought through how the world works, and allows the zeitgeist to dictate his beliefs.
If he’s a leftist, I don’t think he’s a leftist intentionally, if that makes since.
September 11, 2023 @ 12:57 pm
Honky, it’s because you express conservative viewpoints. It means that you are racist. I don’t have to explain my logic because I have already cashed in my virtue signalling benefit points before you even read this.
September 11, 2023 @ 3:28 pm
” I just think he’s (Trig) someone who has never really thought through how the world works, and allows the zeitgeist to dictate his beliefs.”
King Honky – I see you write this all of the time. Has it ever occurred to you that others actually may have thought long and hard about how the world works, and simply came to a different conclusion than you? It’s not that we don’t think for ourselves, it’s that we have thought and reached a different conclusion.
You say all the time how you are (and I’m paraphrasing) enlightened and the rest of us are blind sheep. Maybe we simply see things differently than you. What makes your perspective so special and correct while the rest of us are either willingly ignorant or complicit?
I do not know you, but I can wager that you may not be as smart as you think you are. The smartest people tend to be the first to say “I don’t know this, explain it to me.” They are humble, willing to learn, and admit when they do not know something. You seem to do the opposite. You claim to have everything figured out. B.S.
September 10, 2023 @ 1:35 pm
LOL this is too perfect. You walked right into it because you don’t get it.
September 10, 2023 @ 7:37 pm
Okay Bob, I’ll bite. What reality?
September 10, 2023 @ 10:28 am
Not sure how his ticket prices will ever be low. Especially since there is a large Taylor Swift fan overlap here.
September 10, 2023 @ 10:32 am
It used to be big feet and big hands big c@ck now its big head big c@ck ill keep my big feet.
September 11, 2023 @ 12:48 pm
try not to bump your nose when walking up to the urinal
September 10, 2023 @ 11:11 am
I mostly agree with what you’ve written. I think the response to this entire incident says more about those responding than it does Zack Bryan.
I don’t think anyone would call me pro cop, but I can understand why an officer involved in a traffic stop don’t want folks wandering up to the vehicle during the stop. Officer safety and preserving a potential crime scene both come to mind.
September 10, 2023 @ 11:23 am
No doubt the officer had a right to ask Zach to step back from the scene.
September 10, 2023 @ 11:59 am
He didn’t initially claim Bryan was breaking the law. He approached Bryan and asked him a question, which Bryan promptly answered. The fact that he immediately answered the officer’s question constitutes clear evidence that Bryan was not interfering with any “investigation”. Obviously, he didn’t like the answer to this question, and after badly stumbling over a response and failing hilariously, only then did he assert that Bryan’s physical location in a public space constituted a violation of the law. Of course, being that police are 100% legally allowed to lie to citizens – such as claiming things like filming police officers in public is illegal even when they know damn well it isn’t – it becomes difficult, if not impossible, to know if you are receiving a lawful order, an unlawful order, a request which can be legally refused, or if the cop is attempting to use your possible ignorance of the law as leverage into getting you to waive your rights under duress.
September 10, 2023 @ 5:38 pm
Yeah, but seriously who goes up to a cop writing a citation and says why is it taking so long? Like 7 minutes after the stop. Once he said why is it taking so long, he was interfering.
September 10, 2023 @ 6:22 pm
Zach Bryan did not go up to the police officer. He pulled up to talk to his employee through the passenger side window. There was no reason in that position Zach Bryan would ever have to impeded the officer. The officer came up to him.
September 10, 2023 @ 7:04 pm
Still very weird to question him about what was taking so long.
September 10, 2023 @ 11:44 am
I think the officer was far too quick to jump to threatening arrest. But Zach did himself no favors and it isn’t a good look.
I tend to be suspicious of people who seek jobs where they’ll have authority over everyone else, be it a police officer, a judge, or a politician, but somebody does have to do those jobs and most officers I’ve encountered personally have been fine. I do think reforms should be made in how incidents of police abuse are dealt with. Not to rehash the details of the incident, but the death of Breonna Taylor, which Tyler Childers cited as an inspiration on “Long Violent History,” ended up costing the taxpayers of Louisville $14 million in two separate settlements. If that money came from the officer’s pension fund instead, I think we’d see a lot of bad apples weeded out before incidents of that nature ever occur.
September 10, 2023 @ 2:15 pm
“My boyfriend shot at the cops first thru the door” is a lot less catchy title.
September 10, 2023 @ 2:38 pm
Like I said, I’m not interested in rehashing the details of the case. The city of Louisville on two separate occasions chose not to plead their case in court in front of a jury and instead settled with Taylor’s mother for $12 million and her boyfriend for $2 million. The Louisville police department saw fit to fire one of the officers involved, another was charged with three counts of wanton endangerment, and three officers have now been indicted by a federal grand jury, with one already pleading guilty. I’m not going to presume that I know more about the case than the city officials who chose to settle, the officer who chose to plead guilty or the two grand juries who decided to bring charges in the case.
September 10, 2023 @ 6:04 pm
Strait doesn’t care about the results of any investigation, a black man dared to defend his home, so that’s enough to disparage him and any protests over an unjust death.
September 12, 2023 @ 6:50 am
A far more clear cut case of standing your ground than stalking a teenager walking home ever was.
September 11, 2023 @ 11:56 am
Ahhh Strait, never let the truth get in the way of s good reply. Try harder next time champ
September 10, 2023 @ 11:57 am
Good piece. I’ve never particularly liked Zach’s music but he constantly seems to show he’s a good dude.
September 10, 2023 @ 12:23 pm
This is a measured, well-written, and thoughtful article. Bravo.
September 10, 2023 @ 12:57 pm
I’m not saying the officer was right, but there has been so many officers killed in line of duty this year. Many on routine traffic stops, he might just be worried about that. These days you do not know what might happen, this could of played out bad for the officer put your self in his shoes, would you want have someone pull up on your traffic stop and just get out? Even if you ask what he is doing if he has a gun he won’t tell you.
September 10, 2023 @ 2:07 pm
Not to discredit the deaths, but when the officers are being led by their fear which is subjective, that becomes an issue to the public at large.
September 10, 2023 @ 2:18 pm
It’s human nature and normal risk anaylsis. If you have ever worked in customer service you are always hyper aware of potential assholes and difficult and problem customers. Same with cops and potential violence. Big difference is that their life is much more at risk. (Although I’ve worked some jobs where customers threatened violence too lol)
September 10, 2023 @ 6:26 pm
I don’t take any issue with the police officer asking what Zach Bryan was doing or asking him to step back, or even to get back into his truck. “Get back in your truck or go to jail” is what I take issue with. The law in Oklahoma states that you have a right to witness and even record the police executing their duties.
September 11, 2023 @ 5:32 am
Show me where the law states you can pull up to the person being investigated and start a conversation with them. The cop isn’t entitled to have to explain shit to Zach Bryan on what’s going on or how long it’s going to take. Sure you can record, but not right up next to the person in the investigation. I dare you to try this sometime, anywhere in America.
September 11, 2023 @ 7:22 am
The law in Oklahoma hyperlinked in the article states that anyone has the right to observe or record the police executing their duties. The dash cam video certifies that Zach hadn’t even started a conversation before the officer got out of the squad car and confronted him.
“I dare you to try this sometime, anywhere in America.”
Exactly the point of the article. Just because that’s the way it is doesn’t make it right.
Again, the officer had a right to tell Zach Bryan to step back. Telling him “get back in your truck or go to jail” was unnecessarily escalatory, and not in accordance with Oklahoma law.
September 11, 2023 @ 8:24 am
lol You don’t get it, which surprises me. As soon as he pulled his truck up (like a dumbass), got out, walked over to his buddy’s car, he was officially “obstructing”.
I shall Agree to disagree at this point!
September 11, 2023 @ 10:00 am
“ Show me where the law states you can pull up to the person being investigated and start a conversation with them.”
Where does it say you can’t? If it is legal to observe and record someone who is being detained or “investigated”, why would it be illegal to speak with them – especially considering the 1st Amendment implications of suppressing free speech amongst citizens who have not been convicted of a crime? Maybe I missed the Oklahoma Statute which criminalizes talking and walking.
2022 Oklahoma Statutes
Title 21. Crimes and Punishments
§21-2. Criminal acts are only those prescribed – “This code” defined.
Universal Citation: 21 OK Stat § 2 (2022)
No act or omission shall be deemed criminal or punishable except as prescribed or authorized by this code. The words “this code” as used in the “penal code” shall be construed to mean “Statutes of this State.”
September 10, 2023 @ 1:03 pm
Of course any cop who breaks the law or shoots a golden retriever should rot in jail, but overall I think it’s healthy for the cops to be at least a little feared. Better than not at all. I know from experience in both situations and that’s just my preference.
ZB wasn’t wrong in what he did initially. It was the dumbass shit he said in the car that is telling. Most people are “nice” and “grounded” when they know the cameras are on and/or things are going well…the true test of someone’s character is how they react in a situation like this.
And don’t SAY “it’s not who I am.” Anybody can SAY that. DO it instead.
All this said it’s not the end of the world….he’s still young and perhaps this will be a good lesson for him. Hopefully he somewhat is or does become more of the grounded person he claims and portrays himself to be. He writes some good music and I’m happy to see that kids are into him over other garbage out there. Never would have thought a folky / rockish / somewhat country artist would be dominating all of music again. I hope it continues.
September 10, 2023 @ 1:27 pm
Everyone should question authority, all the time. When good ol’ boys are worshipping the police the world is truly upside down. This is a good take. Nothing America likes more than to tear down the people they build up. As Merle said, ‘watching a young man go to jail / And they put it all on TV / just to see / somebody fail’.
September 10, 2023 @ 2:53 pm
As Corey Smith said best, I was mad as hell, screaming F the Po-PO
September 10, 2023 @ 3:00 pm
I can’t really get behind the premise of this article. A lot of the “problems” Zach Bryan has are self-imposed. He cares entirely too much about what people think of him. He’s more interested in being liked than being an artist. It’s starting to bite him in the ass. He’s a sensitive man who needs to just do his thing and. Its not worth worrying about the rest. The dude needs to get off Twitter and do his thing. Getting arrested wasn’t even a big deal. His multiple post apology was lame as hell. Same with the Travis Tritt situation and other moments from his career. He wants to please everyone
Also, your understanding of the law he broke is flat out wrong. Just saying.
September 10, 2023 @ 3:14 pm
“Nah. I’ll save my criticisms for the music.” If I read the article correctly, doesn’t sound like it to me. I have no opinion one way or the other concerning this subject. But I will say that Trigger sure is in Zach’s corner. That is his prerogative.
And of course another anti-Wallen reference. Wash, rinse, repeat.
September 10, 2023 @ 6:33 pm
With all due respect, you and others are out of line by saying I’m making ant Morgan Wallen references all the time.
Morgan Wallen got arrested outside of Kid Rock’s bar in Nashville right as he was blowing up.
Morgan Wallen went out binge drinking and sucking face with co-eds during COVID and got kicked off of SNL for breaking protocol.
Morgan Wallen yelled out the N word into the cold Nashville night and created one of the biggest controversies in country music in the last 20 years, and causing legions of the activist class to train their attention on the genre.
Do you see fans of Johnny Cash or George Jones that I mentioned in the same breath coming here and bitching?
I have been extremely fair to Morgan Wallen in my coverage over the years, including writing article after article about why the N word incident was overblown. He’s the biggest artist in country music behind Zach Bryan. He’s going to get referenced on this site. And if he doesn’t want to be referred to negatively, maybe he should keep his nose more clean.
September 11, 2023 @ 3:42 am
What metric are you using when you say he is the biggest artist in country music ‘behind Zach Bryan’?
September 11, 2023 @ 7:10 am
Billboard’s Albums and Songs charts. We’ll see how all of this shakes out in the coming weeks, but Bryan is the 2nd biggest artist this week on the Billboard 200 as well. To be frank, I was really surprised how well Zach Bryan sold through, especially when you consider he had basically no pre-order period or physical product to sell until right near the end. Wallen still might be bigger, but it will take weeks to see where Byran ends up settling. The arrest probably helps him in that regard.
September 11, 2023 @ 7:39 am
As a quick comparison:
You’ve got Wallen’s latest album at number 3 after 26 weeks. Of course Bryan’s could show the same staying power, but if we’re being honest I think we know it probably won’t.
Wallen’s previous album is at number 10 after 138 weeks , while Bryan’s previous is at 14 after only 67 weeks.
Wallen has 25.7m monthly Spotify listeners against 21.4m for Bryan.
Wallen has 2.43m YouTube subscribers compared to Bryan’s 808k.
Wallen has 6.4m followers on IG against 2.9m for Bryan.
Ticket sales are such that it’s not worth comparing.
It may be more fair to look again at the end of the year, but as it stands I really think it’s a difficult statement to agree with.
September 11, 2023 @ 9:34 am
The numbers don’t lie, Wallen is ahead of Bryan in every metric. There’s enough evidence to argue Luke Combs still holds the #2 spot. I’d say Bryan is a strong #3 at the moment.
September 10, 2023 @ 3:14 pm
Hijacking these comments to say that Nick Hans new album Crooked Line brings the heat, and that being a delivery driver, roofer, or crossing guard incurs a higher mortality rate than being a cop.
September 10, 2023 @ 3:39 pm
“Zach Bryan is not perfect. None of us are. But blaming him for taking on the Ticketmaster system and then giving up when his fans proved to be self-entitled whiners, or standing up to the cops and their silly little speed trap? Nah. I’ll save my criticisms for the music.
Uh-huh. S*U*R*E you will.
Zach Bryan showed his ass and resembled Cartman, ala, “xD you must respect my authority!”
And, you are showing your naivete.
September 10, 2023 @ 5:03 pm
This is a bad take. Was he being aggressive? No. But regardless of one’s opinion of the police and what not, ultimately a reasonable person knows that it’s best to park off to the side and wait for your traveling companion to be done with their being pulled over.
Pulling up next to the security guards vehicle and getting out and walking up to the car gave the cop plenty of reason to think, “eh, this dude is going to complicate this simple stop.”
September 12, 2023 @ 6:55 am
So…your argument is that a reasonable person should expect any cop to immediately escalate an innocuous situation and unlawfully arrest them for a lack of proper obeisance, despite not actually violating any laws?
I agree!
I don’t quite get why you think it contradicts Trig’s point, though…
September 10, 2023 @ 5:51 pm
If Zach Bryan can’t rise above a constantly complaining public, he’s in the wrong business. Especially about ticket prices and demand. I think artists could master that if they really wanted to – I thought Garth did pretty well with it. They could at least put a ceiling on dynamic pricing.
His fans seem to be 100% in his corner. This is just a blip for him. He looked surprisingly immature and I think that was just so unexpected. We probably place too high expectations on someone who spends eight years in the Marines.
September 10, 2023 @ 7:36 pm
I’m absolutely sick of this god damn interloper, his meandering songs, and his god damn perv-stache.
I can’t help but give him some credit though. He was lucky enough to have found himself some handlers who helped him parlay his YouTube and TikTok popularity into massive mainstream success. A tiresome milquetoast who sees himself as a peer of songwriters like Ed Sheeran and Gregory Alan Isakov would have fit in quite well with the current Americana scene, but the people pulling this kid’s strings decided instead to cash in on a much more lucrative built-in audience and shoved him down throats of modern country fans. Congrats to them for actually pulling it off. I’m still trying to figure out how they convinced so many people that this kid is actually a country singer, and I’m absolutely bewildered how they were able to convince so many that he’s yet another in a seemingly endless line of country music saviors. I can’t recall the last time I saw such a widespread case of mass delusion.
Oh yeah, on a similar note, I’m curious to know if he ever took Travis Tritt up on his offer to have a friendly, civil conversation about whether or not children should be given the right to switch their gender. Somehow, I doubt that he has. His self-righteous attitude is already on par with Jason Isbell’s, but at least Isbell has the integrity to stand behind his beliefs and not shy away from an argument. Sorry for going off on a tangent with this last point, because in all honesty, I’m not trying to stir the pot with divisive subject matter. I’m truly curious if there was any sort of outcome to their social media discourse.
September 11, 2023 @ 5:43 am
He did have that convo with Travis. Said it went great they agreed on a few things and didn’t on a few things, the world goes on. Also said his Dad almost cried during Travis’s set because him and his mom used to listen to him all the time. Disagree about Isbell, as he would of never met with him face to face. He’d rather just throw shots on twitter all day like a little pussy.
September 11, 2023 @ 5:16 pm
Hmmm, well, I guess I mis-judged the guy on this occasion. Good for him for behaving like an adult and actually engaging in a healthy discourse. Sadly, these days, such behavior is becoming less and less common.
And yeah, that’s an excellent point about Isbell !
September 10, 2023 @ 8:11 pm
Not buying your take on this. Now the ticket master thing matters not to me. But he was just flat out wrong for involving himself in a routine traffic stop. Then he just made it worse after that. I understand emotions but you are still responsible for any actions taken because of these emotions. Could the cop have been better about it, maybe but he’s just doing his job. You make it like he was a bad cop or something, he wasn’t. I’ll tell a story about a bad cop though. One time there was this military guy who just walked to the movie theatre just outside base somewhere in se united states. Just walked there, did nothing else but as he got there, cop pulls up in car, gets out handcuffs him, and takes him back down the road aways. He then shows this young military person these old small storage buildings that were just off the sidewalk where the guy had just walked by on his way to movies. He also had the guy who supposebly owned these buildings. They show him this broken window which obviously anybody looking could see had been broken for some amount of time, likely years. They swear that this military guy did this. The military guy says he didn’t do no such thing and those windows had been broken for some time. Of course they try to manipulate him into confessing for something he didn’t do and end up saying they are going to check for prints on the glass and see if they match. Funny thing is they didn’t even take his prints. They drive this guy back to his base and of course try to scare him with they will be in touch. Which they never would be. Now this happened many years ago but shows you what a bad cop can be. Sure it isn’t as bad as the cases where cops just start shooting but those are rare, where as this case probably happens a lot more than you would think. But it also shows a bad policeman and partner for that matter as well as the bad regular people who tried to say the window was recently broken vs the cop in this case who was just doing his job.
September 10, 2023 @ 9:08 pm
From the article:
“This isn’t an anti-police stance to take. Overall, the officer involved seemed to be very reasonable after Zach Bryan was handcuffed and placed in the squad car, even while Zach was being interruptive.”
I’m not saying the officer was completely in the wrong, and Zach Bryan was completely in the right. All I tried to do was take a step back, analyze the situation and how it escalated, and inject some nuance into it.
September 11, 2023 @ 3:13 pm
Well I guess the way I read the article, it definitely comes off as anti police. But I still feel this officer did no wrong really. I tend to listen to cops and do what they say unless I see a real reason not to. While maybe he didn’t have to legally get back in the car, morally he should have, it wasn’t a big ask, and should have done it with no issues. I have a few other stories about law enforcement and if you heard them, you would swear the person in them would hate cops. And to a certain point they do but at same time they respect the job they do and try to return that respect if given. But those stories are for another day. Zach should be a little wiser at 27 especially having served in the military but hopefully he’s a little wiser now
September 11, 2023 @ 4:08 pm
This article is absolutely anti police.
Trig needs to move the fam to Oregon, the District of Columbia, Washington State, etc.
He would feel right at home.
September 10, 2023 @ 9:52 pm
I look forward to yet another ZB article tomorrow.
September 10, 2023 @ 10:44 pm
The speeder was sitting in his car, the cop was in his car. I’m not following why Zach Bryan had an obligation to make sure his employee was being fairly treated. Did he witness the cop acting unfairly in any manner before approaching? The video does not show the cop’s initial approach and interaction with the driver. What occurred, if anything, that made Zach Bryan feel the need to approach? The above posted video makes it look like he was just being a jerk, but maybe he saw something that required intervention. If there was no reason to approach the vehicle other than his impatience, then he’s a jerk.
Quick question. At what age does adulthood begin? 27 seems a bit old to be claiming kid status. I don’t think of a 27 year old as a kid, especially one who was in the military, but maybe others view it differently.
September 12, 2023 @ 7:02 am
I have far lower expectations for the maturity of a 27 year old who’s 2 years out of the military than one who’s 5 years out of college.
Especially one like Zach, who didn’t even get a couple years of navigating the real world before being thrown into superstardom.
September 12, 2023 @ 3:20 pm
“I have far lower expectations for the maturity of a 27 year old who’s 2 years out of the military than one who’s 5 years out of college.”
Interesting comment.
Have you served in the military, in your country?
September 12, 2023 @ 9:04 pm
That’s interesting. I appreciate your perspective. I took the college route and the military people, for the most part, seemed more mature in comparison to my college cohorts. Either way, it stuck out to me because Zach Bryan is the oldest person I’ve ever heard who categorized himself as a child.
September 11, 2023 @ 12:58 am
For future reference: if you’re given two choices and one of them is to go to jail don’t be a Billy big bollocks and choose jail.
September 11, 2023 @ 5:23 am
Cops are like pit bulls. Many are friendly and safe to be around, but some will just snap and kill you without warning. Accordingly, it’s best to avoid them and certainly not approach them when they are engaged in cop/pit bull stuff. Zach was lucky that this cop just gave him a nip on the ankles.
September 11, 2023 @ 7:03 am
I completely disagree on Triggers take on Bryan’s arrest, and “the overreaching power of the police state”. Seriously? Having visited several other countries, I think citizens of many of them would fall down laughing at this statement. And this, the general overall attitude and disregard for law enforcement, is the crux of Bryan’s self inflated and entitled actions.
The Officer gave him several instructions to stay in his car which Bryan disregarded. The officer explained to him the consequences for not following the instructions which Bryan stated to the officer to arrest him. Even after he was placed in handcuffs, the officer attempted to calm him down and inform him he would be released. Bryan continued to rage and insult the officer leading to his arrest.
But I’ll be honest and say none of this is so off putting that it would make me stop being a fan of Bryan. What is really off putting to me is the apology video in which Bryan says he wants to be forthcoming, and then completely miss represents what actually happened as shown in the dashcam.
Bryan, like myself, is a veteran. It’s part of what made me a begin to follow him in the first place. That doesn’t make him a super human nor incapable of making mistakes. I have made plenty of mistakes I am regretful for. However, the respect for veterans is not only based on their service to their country, it is based on the fact that people expect from a veteran to be a honorable citizen, and someone who accepts responsibility for their mistakes.
Bryan made a mistake and acted unacceptably. It happens to all of us. But to come out and then try to downplay and miss represent the incident is unbecoming. Stating he supports law enforcement when clearly his insults to the officer say otherwise.Then to try to excuse himself by painting the officer as petty is less than honorable. His claim the officer quickly arrested him for not showing ID is a lie. His claim that he had a calm conversation with the officer and was still arrested was a lie. While there is no proof on camera he was only going 4 miles over the speed limit, but considering his other untruths, I suspect that is a lie as well.
The attempt to portray Bryan as some poor victim of an over reaching police state here is not only misleading, but only perpetuates a falsehood of ill will towards law enforcement. The officer was doing his job, was professional, and gave Bryan several opportunities to leave the scene with nothing more than a citation. Bryan himself is no victim. He is not only a veteran with the training for self discipline and respect for authority, but was raised by a military father. He is well aware of how to conduct himself.
Yes he made a mistake. it’s not the end of the world. But his lack of honesty and unwillingness to come out and take responsibility lessens the respect he has earned as a veteran. Don’t give him an out by trying to drudge up some political anti-police nonsense. He will need to reestablish his credibility on his own. He can start by telling the truth.
September 11, 2023 @ 7:24 am
“The Officer gave him several instructions to stay in his car which Bryan disregarded.”
No he didn’t. That was the problem. He said, “Get back in your truck or go to jail” as the first command. That was an unfair ultimatum. Zach Bryan had a right to be outside of his truck and observe the situation as long as he maintained a reasonable distance. He wasn’t obstructing the officer whatsoever.
September 11, 2023 @ 8:11 am
According to Zach himself the instructed him to stay in the car. He then gets out and the officer asks what he’s doing and gave him another instruction to get back in his car. When he doesn’t , the officer again tells him to return to his car and informed him he would be arrested if he didn’t comply. Bryan replied arrest me.
3 orders to remain/return to the car. How many does he need to give before it’s acceptable? How long should he coddle him? When he says arrest me indicating he not going to comply, should the officer then try to talk him out of it?
Even after being cuffed the officer tried to talk him down. C’mon man.
September 11, 2023 @ 10:17 am
“ According to Zach himself the instructed him to stay in the car.”
I watched the video and didn’t hear him say that. Can you provide a time in the video when this is stated?
September 11, 2023 @ 11:08 am
There have been several articles, news reports, and social media posts on this. I have heard, read, saw that he made this statement. You, and Trigger, are digging a Symantecs here and avoiding the point. Even if the officer gave only two orders to return to his car, how many does he need to give?
The point is that a minor traffic stop in which Zach lost his patience and temper is far from some example of systemic overreach of power. The fact he acted like an idiot isn’t even the point. Who hasn’t? The point is that in his video where he wants to be forthcoming, he is anything but forthcoming . He instead downplays the incident and portrays the officer as petty.
September 11, 2023 @ 12:30 pm
“There have been several articles, news reports, and social media posts on this.”
I am not interested in hearsay, only primary sources. To wit:
ABC news reported three days ago, “Bryan got out of the pickup and walked over to Oklahoma Highway Patrol Trooper Ben Bertram.”
As we now know from the video this is a completely inaccurate account, issued by a major news corporation.
I thought you may have had access to demonstrable information I was not privy to when you asserted, “The Officer gave him several instructions to stay in his car which Bryan disregarded.” Even if true, Bryan was not being actively detained when these “instructions” were issued, and thus they would have been unlawful commands.
I am not interested in defending Bryan on a personal level – he is a millionaire and set for life – but I am interested in safeguarding all of our rights against an increasingly capricious and hypocritical law enforcement apparatus. If I could have a dollar every time I saw a cop casually excessively speeding, I could, like Bryan, probably retire. The officer has been delegated the authority to order people to obey the law; not to obey his every arbitrary command. If Bryan actually violated Oklahoma Statute by the mere act of speaking with his associate through an open window during a traffic stop at a car wash, I would like to read that Statute. God knows they have a million of them. It should be in there somewhere…
2022 Oklahoma Statutes
Title 21. Crimes and Punishments
§21-911. Punishment for Sabbath-breaking.
Universal Citation: 21 OK Stat § 911 (2022)
Every person guilty of Sabbath-breaking is punishable by a fine of not more than Twenty-five Dollars ($25.00) for each offense.
Hope you aren’t a anarcho-communist. Don’t move to Oklahoma if you are. Good to know.
2022 Oklahoma Statutes
Title 21. Crimes and Punishments
§21-374. Display of red flag or emblem of disloyalty or anarchy.
Universal Citation: 21 OK Stat § 374 (2022)
Any person in this state, who shall carry or cause to be carried, or publicly display any red flag or other emblem or banner, indicating disloyalty to the Government of the United States or a belief in anarchy or other political doctrines or beliefs, whose objects are either the disruption or destruction of organized government, or the defiance of the laws of the United States or of the State of Oklahoma, shall be deemed guilty of a felony, and upon conviction shall be punished by imprisonment in the Penitentiary of the State of Oklahoma for a term not exceeding ten (10) years, or by a fine not exceeding One Thousand Dollars ($1,000.00) or by both such imprisonment and fine.
2022 Oklahoma Statutes
Title 21. Crimes and Punishments
§21-1266.1. Existence of communist conspiracy.
Universal Citation: 21 OK Stat § 1266.1 (2022)
Upon evidence and proof already presented before this legislature, congress, the courts of this state, and the courts of the United States, it is here now found and declared to be a fact that there exists an International Communist conspiracy which is committed to the overthrow of the government of the United States and of the several states, including that of the State of Oklahoma, by force or violence, such conspiracy including the Communist Party of the United States, its component or related parts and members, and that such conspiracy constitutes a clear and present danger to the government of the United States and of this state.
September 11, 2023 @ 2:54 pm
I won’t bother looking up all your legal posts here. Last time I did it wasn’t even an actual law. Also, I didn’t say that he didn’t say it, I just didn’t care to search everything I read or watched to try and refute your point. You win, he never said it. Still doesn’t change the fact that you, despite all your internet lawyer talk, are entirely missing my point. Have a great day buddy.
September 11, 2023 @ 3:19 pm
“The point is that a minor traffic stop in which Zach lost his patience and temper is far from some example of systemic overreach of power.”
There is nothing “minor” about any traffic stop which ultimately results in an American citizen being totally deprived of his freedom, placed in chains, and put into a cage by his own government. Been there, done that. Especially if he broke no actual law.
Nice chatting with you.
September 11, 2023 @ 4:06 pm
You are using ABC news as a reliable source?….
Where to even start …
September 11, 2023 @ 6:27 pm
Apparently ABC News is about as accurate as your reading, and thus your interpretation, of my post. You could “start” there.
September 11, 2023 @ 7:03 pm
Read it accurately.
Was just making an observation.
September 11, 2023 @ 7:45 pm
Premise: ABC News Corporation made a claim.
Premise: The claim made by ABC News Corporation was patently and demonstrably false, based on the simple viewing of police video footage concerning the event in question.
Conclusion: ABC News Corporation is NOT a reliable source.
That is why I examine primary materials only in my discussion – I have actually taken the time to read the affidavit and view all relevant video footage. I invoked ABC News Corporation’s report as a blatant example of hearsay, not as an example of a primary source (video footage). I hope this clears things up for you.
September 11, 2023 @ 7:13 am
People are always going to get mad when they can’t get tickets to the show.
Doesn’t change the fact that he 100% sold out when he decided to sell on Ticketmaster for this tour. I don’t think it has anything to do with trying to please fans, and everything to do with making as much money as he can.
I have no issue with artists trying to make money. That’s why they do what they do. But don’t scream about Ticketmaster for a year, release an album called “All my homies hate Ticketmaster”, and then just start selling shows on Ticketmaster.
I’m a huge ZB fan, but he totally sold out.
September 11, 2023 @ 7:16 am
On his arrest: I’m totally on the side of the cop is a power tripping a-hole. He definitely escalated things. I think Bryan could’ve handled things a little better, but the cop was a d-bag. But I agree with Trigger here, this whole thing is a nothing-burger.
September 11, 2023 @ 7:47 am
Let me begin by expressing how wholeheartedly disappointed I was to not get tickets the last time Zach was around. Luckily I was able to get tickets to a show next June with him, Billy Strings, the Turnpike Troubadours and more. I am a def die hard fan of his!
Now, I wholly agree with you in all but the fact that from the position of the officer at the beginning of the incident, he had no way of seeing/knowing if there could be a possible exchange of contraband.
As for the actions, tone and demeanor of Zach, I try to think back to 19 years ago when I was his age. Holy shit I would have been easy more abrasive in this same situation. These are the situations that bring our character flaws to our attention. We need to stop casting judgement on situations people end up in and reserve some of our opinions for the way in which people grow from the knowledge gained from these situations. This my friends is the true measure of a man. Just a suggestion but go listen to and reflect on his song “The Good I’ll Do”.
September 11, 2023 @ 9:25 am
As Barney Fife would say, “Nip it in the bud!”
September 11, 2023 @ 9:34 am
God, this article really sniffs Zach Bryans ball sweat.. Cant believe you are so in love with this dude
September 11, 2023 @ 11:53 am
This article is like that “leave Brittany alone” video. The policeman was mean to Zach!
September 11, 2023 @ 2:55 pm
Well thought-out and well written Trig. Good stuff here. Ty.
September 11, 2023 @ 5:02 pm
i just wanted to say that this was an amazing read as an african american, a person and a huge country fan i’ve read the comments that state that the officer was just trying to do his job and that Zach should of complied and to some extent i see their point but when put in to perspective with how regular police brutality is and how normalized and ESPECIALLY put into the context that a black man died the next day from a traffic stop that escalated really put it in to a very jarring position for me as a black individual i really appreciate this perspective because it’s hard to find especially in country music fans or writing this was beautifully written and one of my favorite articles analyzing this situation hates off to you i hope my journalism degrees brings me to a point where i can articulate my points this well
September 13, 2023 @ 11:56 am
You claim to have journalism degrees yet you wrote that mess of a paragraph?
Oh boy.
September 12, 2023 @ 5:30 am
ACAB
September 13, 2023 @ 1:06 pm
Easy to be the guy that bashes law enforcement when you’ve never done the job. I enjoy reading this website due to their appreciation of traditional country music, Americana, etc…but politics and policing, which are two things that should not go together, are not your forte. You sound as bad as every other mainstream news source and are simply perpetuating lies about law enforcement. Maybe you should take a ride-along with a local department or speak to some law enforcement officers before you open your mouth about how much you know about policing, the criminal justice system and race relations between the two
September 13, 2023 @ 2:56 pm
Hey Billy Bob,
I understand in the bifurcated media environment we live in, it’s easy to conclude that what I was doing here was “bashing” law enforcement. But that was definitely not my intent. I went out of the way to say as much, as well as compliment the specific officer for being reasonable, especially when Zach Bryan was in the front seat of the squad car mouthing off inappropriately.
All I was trying to do here was offer some nuance and context. This wasn’t “Cops bad, Zach Bryan good.” Zach clearly made some mistakes here, and he apologized for them. The National Police Association has now come out and praised Zach Bryan for his heartfelt and timely apology. I just also didn’t think that he deserved to be crucified of the incident.
I have done ride alongs before (when I was younger), and have had friends and family that were in law enforcement. That said, it is the job of the media as the fourth estate to bring scrutiny against law enforcement and all government agencies, and if necessary, be adversarial. Zach Bryan had a right to observe the officer from a reasonable distance doing his duties. The ultimatum of “get in your truck or go to jail” was unfair to Zach, and he reacted as such.
As I said in the article, law enforcement is out there every day putting their lives on the line. They deserve our respect. But citizens deserve respect too. The intent of this article was to address the friction between law enforcement and the public, not to dogpile on the people whose job is to protect us.
September 13, 2023 @ 8:16 pm
“ …politics and policing, which are two things that should not go together…”
Police literally physically impose the Policies created by the Politicians onto the American people. Law Enforcement is no better than the laws – the will of the political ruling class – they are willing to enforce. Lawmakers must continuously create laws in order to continuously be Lawmakers; ad infinitum. Individual liberty, be damned. Limited Government, be damned. Delegated and Reserved Powers, be dammed. Every law ever made by a politician was made to take a choice away from me – that was the entire point of it’s creation. That is also the entire point of its enforcement.
September 16, 2023 @ 2:53 pm
Wonder if this opinion would have been written about,say,Darius Rucker or Kane Brown were they to have had an uncomfortable police encounter ? ( Country Singers Matter,anyone ?)
September 16, 2023 @ 2:59 pm
Well,well,well.A country website admitting the existence of mass incarceration !!!!!!!! Will wonders never cease ??????? (Of course,it took a good ol’ boy Country favourite’s arrest for certain folk to FINALLY admit what we POC have always known.)
October 30, 2023 @ 3:34 pm
For all the folks ragging on the cop – just remember in this day and age, people out there in the streets are crazy. So just b/c he was sitting in his car (hence Bryan wasn’t really interfering), I don’t blame the cop whatsoever for being uncomfortable with a guy he doesn’t know, pulling up to a detained vehicle and then getting out of the car. For reference, go find the video from last summer when a Naperville, IL cop was giving a young kid a ticket and trying to verify insurance, when out of nowhere a psycho pulls up and tries to kill the cop with a hatchet. Cop might be dead if the psycho hadn’t initially forgotten to put his car in park for a second, allowing the cop to shoot the freak dead on the road with a millisecond to spare.