Country Rapper Katie Noel Goes Viral with “Southern” (A Rant)
WARNING: Language
As if Kid Rock ejaculated into a half empty Code Red Mountain Dew bottle, shook it up with some residue left in the bottom of a vat after a meth batch, passed it around a circle of inbreds so they could spit their tobacco juice into it, and then this unholy concoction was allowed to fester in a stagnant mire until certain chemical processes occurred, Katie Noel has spontaneously generated into existence like a demon redneck hellspawn with terrible taste in music to rape your ears incessantly with her tractor rap noise.
Katie Noel is most certainly proud of her Southern heritage, but she’s making the rest of us born south of the Mason Dixon that don’t fuck our cousins hang our heads in shame. The 23-year-old self-described “artist” and “influencer” with over 5 million “likes” on Tik-Tok and her own apparel line has folks fearing for the future of humanity as a clip from her new song “Southern” has gone super viral on social media recently.
The simple truth is the shitty musical stylings of someone like Katie Noel have been around for a dozen years or so in the devolved underworld world of hick hop, which requires its population to be devoid of any taste or self-awareness for inclusion. The only difference is that she’s a woman, while we’re used to fat white male losers releasing this kind of refuse. Then when a cut of “Southern” landed on Twitter, exposing it to the insulated masses who are repulsed that something like this actually exists on earth, it became like it’s like its own mini phenomenon.
@katienoelofficial SOUTHERN DROPS AT MIDNIGHT! Hit that repost 😮💨 pre-save in BIO #fyp #NextLevelDish #countrymusic #trending ♬ original sound – KatieNoel
Katie Noel has become something resembling the Rebecca Black of country, accidentally popular because of all the car crash lookie-loos slowing down to take a peek at the carnage. Merry Christmas, Noel. I want to see all of you Tik-Tok apologists try to convince us now that this app isn’t a Chinese psyop to slowly devolve us all into drooling fuckwits who can barely tie our shoes.
Will this be the next trend to overtake mainstream country? Of course not. That’s part of what is hilarious about this. As disturbing as Katie Noel’s take on “country” is, it’s also horrifically outdated. This stuff peaked in 2011 with Jason Aldean and “Dirt Road Anthem.” Heard from Colt Ford lately? Think that Brantley Gilbert has any kind of future? How did Jelly Roll get so big? It was by abandoning his country rap roots, and beginning to record earnest, heartfelt songs like he’s Zach Bryan.
Look, I don’t want to personally insult this young lady, Katie Noel. She seems like a sweet girl. Actually, no she doesn’t. She comes across like the neighbor kid that’s shit drunk at 7 pm and pisses herself while shooing the bird at everyone at your otherwise peaceful suburban backyard party, requiring you to have conversations your six-year-old were not ready to have. But don’t worry, this is what rehab is for.
One thing I can say to Katie Noel’s credit is that she can take a joke, and criticism. In a followup video to her her viral Tik-Tok clip of “Southern,” Katie takes on Barstool Sports, Whiskey Riff, and Theo Von who were spearheading the criticism of the song.
“I’m Brady Cox, and yesterday I’d seen all over Twitter this ‘Southern’ song by Katie Noel go viral, and I sat up in my Nashville office sky rise overlooking the city and I said, ‘What the actual fuck is this?'” Katy says, aping the Whiskey Riff writer. “And I have nothing but bad things to say about it for one simple reason, and that’s because it wasn’t Zach Bryan. If it ain’t Zach Bryan, well guess what? We at Whiskey Riff fuckin’ hate you, and you should probably quit.”
Alright that’s pretty damn funny. This Katie Noel’s got pluck, I’ll give her that.
The upshot here is that these type of country rap muddin’ videos have always been catnip for the redneck crowd on their prepaid phones. They’ve been around for years. This is not the future of country music, it’s the past. Perhaps it’s good for some unintentional humor, but it’s probably not worth raising any serious alarms over. Katie Noel and her terrible music will continue appealing to a niche audience, and country music will continue to move forward, which means away from the country rap/Bro-Country era and its indolent, list-like lyrics and Southern aphorisms indicative of “Southern.”
February 28, 2023 @ 11:49 am
What was that song & video……?!?! I think I’d rather listen to Sam Hunt on a loop for 10 years straight before I ever listen to “Southern” again. Lord have mercy that was horrific!!
February 28, 2023 @ 11:51 am
Here for the comments…
February 28, 2023 @ 11:51 am
What. Did. I. Just. Watch.
February 28, 2023 @ 11:53 am
Plenty of dudes have been making this shitty country rap garbage for years but now a girl does it and everyone loses their minds.
February 28, 2023 @ 12:32 pm
Uh girls have been doing this crap for years too. Katie Noel’s been around for like 4 years and has made sucky music for all 4 of em.
February 28, 2023 @ 3:47 pm
Im sorry youve been aware of her for so long.
February 28, 2023 @ 2:24 pm
People have been mocking this kind of country music for over a decade.
Quit white knighting.
March 1, 2023 @ 7:00 pm
I’m an equal oppurtunity rap hater. Male or female or questionable, black or White or piss burnt green and an odd color, RAP HAS NO PLACE IN COUNTRY MUSIC. She says she’s proud to be Southern? She isn’t Southern when she’s up there acting like some thug life rapper. A lot of you will say you don’t care but shit like this doesn’t help the image of true Dixie loving Southerners. jmfo
February 28, 2023 @ 11:59 am
I made it through 8 seconds of that. 8.
February 28, 2023 @ 12:02 pm
It’s a novelty until some hack on Music Row thinks it’s a smart idea to throw a budget behind it – or one of them finds the right trap act on the come-up who’ll be mercenary enough for the virality.
Honestly, I kind of think that’s just a matter of time. Maybe it won’t be Katie Noel, but there are SO many like her if you scratch even below the surface.
February 28, 2023 @ 12:31 pm
That’s what the did with Ernest and Jelly Roll. The difference is these two artist were perceptive enough to see where the trends were going, which was more country-sounding songs, and better songwriting. Then you have someone like Breland who has absolutely no organic appeal, and they continue to pour money into that project.
This stuff has been around for over a decade and getting millions of hits on social media. But you drag it out into the light, and it gets exposed and withers. This song is a perfect example.
February 28, 2023 @ 1:19 pm
Re: Breland. Just saw today where Jimmie Allen is leaving Nashville for Miami, where the country music scene is about as vibrant as New York City’s. Here’s a guy whose label has done a good job getting his songs on the radio and a great job of getting him on TV, but he must think the grass is greener on the pop side despite the horrific creative slump Top 40 (CHR) radio has been in for the past few years. I’d expect the Breland push to get even more intense now, and he has yet to record anything remotely as country as “Down Home,” a mildly entertaining bit of pop country, even if it does ask you to believe that Jimmie loves playing Charley Pride in his truck. I don’t hear one trace of country in Breland’s voice or any potential for him in the genre. If this hick-hop song catches on and becomes a trend (which, like you, I don’t believe will happen), Breland may have a shot and Jimmie will come running back.
IMO, a lot depends on what Morgan Wallen’s new album sounds like. If most of the 36 tracks are like “Thought You Should Know” or “Don’t Think Jesus,” we’ll be OK. But the snap/trap tracks he’s leaked in advance of the drop date scare me a lot. Sure wish Combs had beaten him to the punch, because what I’ve heard of “Gettin’ Old” is pretty high quality for mainstream country, but instead we’re going to get three solid weeks of Mullet Boy hype. Fingers crossed that the resurgence isn’t going to be stopped in its tracks, whether Katie herself has a hit or not.
February 28, 2023 @ 6:02 pm
I saw Jimmie at a showcase once. He sang two songs with the house band, interacted with all, and seemed genuinely stoked to be there. Much respect for him.
February 28, 2023 @ 6:23 pm
I also had the impression that Jimmie was serious about country music, which is why today’s news came as such a surprise. I would have expected Kane Brown to make such a move, since he is already going for pop success.
February 28, 2023 @ 12:10 pm
The opening paragraph compelled me to watch her video one time. I come away from the experience with 10 less IQ points and some sense of what inbreeding does.
February 28, 2023 @ 4:20 pm
Same here, and I had it muted.
February 28, 2023 @ 12:10 pm
I remember when Sean Hannity lost his shit over Florida Georgia Line and would talk about how awesome they were all the time. Watching this video, I can see MTG doing the same over this girl. Maybe it’s because I saw her ridiculous work out video today that I’m equating the two, but Katie reminds me of a mini MTG (side note: MTG can definitely do more pullups than I can).
February 28, 2023 @ 2:29 pm
She looks exactly like a younger MTG, yes.
March 23, 2023 @ 11:51 am
Asheville? She ain’t no country girl.
December 3, 2023 @ 8:54 am
She looks nothing like MTG. No resemblance at all.
Stupid.
February 28, 2023 @ 7:21 pm
I remember when Sean Hannity lost his shit over Florida Georgia Line and would talk about how awesome they were all the time.
Holy shitballs, that’s even worse than him using Martina McBride’s “Independence Day” as his intro music.
February 28, 2023 @ 12:12 pm
Can’t find any past or future tour dates or set lists. When she gonna play Joe’s live in Rosemont like her apparent mentor Jessie James Decker? ????
February 28, 2023 @ 1:08 pm
Now glendel you know that everyone and everything is welcome at our beloved establishment. The list of incredible performers that have graced JL’s stage is vast including many on here we love but yes they sometimes have the lower echelons as well, gotta pay the bills. All I know is I’ll be there for Channing Wilson Friday and The Steel Woods in July. Maybe even pop in for Morgan Wade. Katie Noel if ever would be a hard pass…..keep your eyes open, ya never know…………..
February 28, 2023 @ 2:47 pm
JB, my only JL’s shows ever have been the Raelynn radio station promotion, and the Ace Frehley show that was papered after even the Black Friday sale didn’t sell enough tix. But I’m kinda picky, because I saw Johnny Paycheck live when he once played downstairs in the building where I work.
March 1, 2023 @ 5:00 am
Every weekend, somewhere in the US, there is a mud bog with a stage and sound system loud enough to wake the whole county, with subs drawing enough current to force the power company to spool up an additional generator. I think her “Mud Hole’ tour will do just fine.
February 28, 2023 @ 12:13 pm
If she could sing it might be forgivable, but any “country” radio station that puts this garbage into rotation should be forced to turn their license in for broadcasting obscene programming.
February 28, 2023 @ 12:16 pm
What better way too let everyone know it’s something not getting worked up over but proceed on a rant only giving it more attention????
February 28, 2023 @ 12:19 pm
I was born on Sunday morning
And on Monday I was up and hoeing corn.
I thank my momma for my raising
I thank God Almighty Lincoln won the War.
When the reaper comes a calling
He can take my life if I can keep my pride
I’m gonna cross old chilly Jordan
Plant a Yankee flag in the bank on the other side.
Don’t you bury me in Dixie.
Don’t you throw that dirt down on my face.
I’d rather leave you young and handsome son
Than grow old down South and die there in disgrace.
February 28, 2023 @ 12:53 pm
I got curious and looked up who you were quoting- great song, Conrad!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvp6X7TMbu8
though I’m sorry you don’t like grits.
February 28, 2023 @ 2:24 pm
“If heaven ain’t a lot like Dixie
I don’t want to go
If heaven ain’t a lot like Dixie
I’d just as soon stay home
If they don’t have a Grand Ole Opry
Like they do in Tennessee
Just send me to hell or New York City
It would be about the same to me.”
February 28, 2023 @ 4:07 pm
My favorite songs about the South are Good Ole Boys Like Me and The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down. There’s some great things about the South but they rarely get sung about. Marla Cannon has a great song about it.
February 28, 2023 @ 5:31 pm
The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down is a stone cold classic.
Excellent taste.
February 28, 2023 @ 6:21 pm
“If the South woulda won we’d have had it made!”
Add to other favorite songs about the South:
“You Ain’t Just Whistlin’ Dixie” — Bellamy Brothers
“Sweet Southern Comfort” — Buddy Jewell
“The South’s Gonna Do It Again” — Charlie Daniels Band
“Sunday in the South” — Shenandoah
But yes, “Good Ole Boys Like Me” is the all-time best, IMO.
February 28, 2023 @ 5:22 pm
Conrad,
Do you really not like fried chicken, grits, or gravy? Or is it just that the North is so freaking boring, that the only lyrics you could come up with were anti-Southern, as opposed to pro-Northern?
February 28, 2023 @ 6:18 pm
There isn’t much pro-Northern material.
Unless you enjoy dirty cities, high taxes, rude people, and overrated pizza.
February 28, 2023 @ 6:58 pm
imagine being such a little snowflake that you can’t even enjoy new york- or chicago- or detroit-style pizza because of the city they come from. my god. absolutely pathetic. southern-style pizza. has anyone ever heard of that? lmao.
March 1, 2023 @ 5:17 am
I might need to file a restraining order.
I am not a pizza fan in general. So, the pizza from two crime ridden cities doesn’t do it for me.
And the fact you only tried to refute my pizza point and not the other ones just shows I am right.
March 1, 2023 @ 7:56 am
Any other comments on this thread will be deleted.
February 28, 2023 @ 8:30 pm
There’s a lot more to the North than that.
My family is from upstate NY (Adirondacks) and much of that area had the same rural vibe of the South. Some differences, of course, due to geography, weather, and history, but it ain’t like NYC (or other metro areas).
March 1, 2023 @ 10:19 am
what about this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYic_E6ghUo
March 1, 2023 @ 10:19 am
what about this? ahahah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYic_E6ghUo
February 28, 2023 @ 12:21 pm
This f’ing site.
Introduced me to a lot of great stuff. Also introduced me to this crap. Damn this site.
March 28, 2023 @ 3:35 pm
You gotta see the bad stuff to appreciate the good stuff more.
February 28, 2023 @ 12:27 pm
This girl has over 400K monthly listeners on Spotify and one of her songs has over 39M streams. Compare that to say Kaitlyn Butts with barely 200K monthly’s and 3.9M of one song. How the hell? This actually scares the crap out of me. I’m betting the farm that her listeners are your typical drunk, wanna-be redneck, frat boys from the suburbs because real rednecks would not stoop this low.
February 28, 2023 @ 2:12 pm
That’s because the frat boys know what she’ll do at the frat party.
February 28, 2023 @ 4:55 pm
Well she’s lez so…
March 1, 2023 @ 6:02 pm
The 39M streams song is a duet with Upchurch. All the buzz was because of him.
December 3, 2023 @ 8:57 am
At least she didn’t rob her drug dealer.
February 28, 2023 @ 12:27 pm
I want to take this opportunity just to put it on the public record that I feel the same about ZB as I do this chick.
February 28, 2023 @ 12:35 pm
Lol I don’t care much for Zach Bryan, how how in the hell can you say that ZB is anywhere near as bad as Katie Noel?? Like what kind of topsy turvy world are you living in?
February 28, 2023 @ 1:18 pm
@ Adam I hope that’s because you only listen to Norwegian death metal. Otherwise, get thee to a therapist.
February 28, 2023 @ 2:12 pm
Norway is known for black metal, Sweden for death metal. Not to say there aren’t black metal bands from Sweden and vice versa, but that’s the general trope.
February 28, 2023 @ 3:08 pm
Not to be an elitist or snobby or anything, but there isn’t much death metal from Norway lol
February 28, 2023 @ 3:10 pm
Not to be an elitist or snobby or anything, but there isn’t much death metal from Norway lol
Sweden’s all about death metal and especially melodic death metal. Some of the best music of all time in the MDM genre.
February 28, 2023 @ 3:31 pm
Take Heartwork out of the equation, and Sweden can certainly claim the rest of the rights to melodic death metal.
February 28, 2023 @ 12:34 pm
Unpopular opinion: This isn’t as bad or as “harmful” as the shit that wins CMAs. At least it knows what it is. Bonus points for her sense of humor.
February 28, 2023 @ 5:18 pm
I legitimately felt secondhand embarrassment while watching this.
I guess it’s not “harmful”, but man is it awful.
February 28, 2023 @ 7:45 pm
You’d have to pay me (substantially) to listen to it again. What’s worse though, this garbage that isn’t trying to be anything it’s not or something like, say, Maren Morris…beyond watered down pop drivel, not even trying to be country music, but somehow still pretending it is country music, watching the NPCs nod their collective heads in agreement and giving her awards for being the best that country music has to offer? There are plenty of random, juvenile people out there to feel embarrassed for, but this seems harmless by comparison to the surreal, creepy charade that plays out in the mainstream every day, with the stamp of approval of adults and people in institutional authority. I don’t use Tik-Tok …I wouldn’t have even known this existed, if not for this article.
February 28, 2023 @ 12:39 pm
She be straight up jive turkey trash.
Talk about cultural misappropriation.
February 28, 2023 @ 12:43 pm
That first sentence is hilarious. I haven’t thought about code red Mountain Dew since high school.
It’s all TikTok and the other algorithms.
People that promote the south almost always make me cringe.
February 28, 2023 @ 12:50 pm
I miss Roy Acuff.
February 28, 2023 @ 1:17 pm
Can’t wait for the Katie Noel and Morgan Wallen collab. A new song, or a “You Proof” remix?
February 28, 2023 @ 1:17 pm
That opening paragraph was fucking Shakespeare.
February 28, 2023 @ 1:18 pm
Katie needs to seek out a different genre of music to haunt because country sure doesn’t need this steaming pile of nonsense.
February 28, 2023 @ 1:29 pm
Why aren’t the Twitter music journavists hyping the shit out of this chick in the name of women’s rights and equality?
February 28, 2023 @ 1:56 pm
Somehow it continues to get worse as it goes along. Just when you think it can’t possibly get any more ludicrously, pathetically, absurd, it manages to find a whole new way to suck.
And if it weren’t for the music video, it would almost feel like a sincere, honest to God, bro, country song
But the music video is so laughably, redundant, comically, absurd, that it almost feels like the opening montage of a John Candy movie set in the deep South, while the credits slowly crawl
You could write a doctoral thesis about the unique subset of our culture that mocks education, of embarrassing millennials, who were probably raised by moderately inattentive, alcoholic parents, who proceeded to grow up to be exactly this sort of person who never seem to think that it was wrong, and took offense to everyone who thought that it was
The simple fact I’ve met people who honest to God live like this. It’s really weird because it seems like something out of some perverse fiction, but there are actual people to whom this appeals, to whom this resonates with because that’s their lifestyle. And they’re also bored suburbanites, who want anything different, and because almost every other direction in life is mostly sideways, down is the only way out of bored suburban ism.
I have interacted with this website, it’s community, and it’s contact for almost a decade now. People who have been around an active in the comments for the entirety of that time, probably know me as a serious nerd, invested in education, with a head full of trivia and analogies and information on a broad area of subjects. I also used to be a really condescending elitist jerk.
I don’t understand why people hate education, learning things is cool. Knowing things as cool. Understanding things it’s cool. And being an ignorant boob isn’t.
And the amount of people I’ve met, who have no desire to better than selves, who, for better, or for worse live like this music video, it’s hard for me not to look down on them because it’s so obviously a choice to be an ignorant illiterate person
That’s why the brew country era meeting me so angry. Because it was like everything that I hated in the world, the proudly ignorant, rising up to try and take over my entire world.
Bro, country era wasn’t just about bad music or what cells, it was an embarrassment of ignorance, illiteracy, small mindedness, a general disdain, for any in all forms of education, by the people who probably think John Adams made beer
So yes, in the post bro Era this feels like an anomaly that we could all laugh at. But when the bro Era was its strongest, It felt like that was the way the world was going, remember that awful TV show party down south? Where are the rednecks pissed on each other?
I will never understand, the backlash, the education, except that the people working in education make being educated and insufferable burden. I was never much of a great shakes is a student, admittedly, I would much rather have educated myself on my own topics of interest.
Top 40 culture, by which I mean people who only watch new movies listen to new music and don’t read very many books, and especially don’t read books on anything informational, I’ve got to be the shallowest, most tedious people on earth.
But I also think that a lot of bad, southern stereotypes have so permeated our culture, that an awful lot of people have just chosen to embrace them rather than deal with the embarrassment of it all. And that could be its own doctoral thesis.
February 28, 2023 @ 2:18 pm
Our only hope is that those listening to this kind of garbage are in their late teens/early 20’s and in a few short years they will regret ever giving it the time of day and move on with productive lives. I regret to admit that 2 Live Crew made its way through the boom box speakers back in the dorm in my young and stupid days. We’ll chalk this too up to a few too many Natty Lights and being young and stupid.
February 28, 2023 @ 7:36 pm
I want to apologize for the errant punctuation
I have to use voice to text on this phone because the buttons are too close together
March 1, 2023 @ 5:21 am
That last statement is thought provoking ” …just chosen to embrace them rather than deal with the embarrassment of it all.”
This goes beyond just the outlier genres of country music. It includes Superhero movie nerd-dom, majority of rap music and black culture, social media influencer and reality TV culture.
Your Top 40 culture comment hits the nail on the head. I’m 36 and have frequently gotten odd looks when I say that my favorite movies are from the 1960’s.
March 1, 2023 @ 9:17 am
Wow. This is the most elitist judgmental rant I have read in a long time. Maybe if educated people didn’t come around sounding like this, young people would be more interested in education.
I can’t stand this crap any more than you do, but I don’t think they are any different than all the potheads and gamers anywhere else in the country. I’m not from the south, I’m as far as you can be in the lower 48. But I don’t hate these people. Our whole society has made life easy for young people, so this is how they spend their life.
March 1, 2023 @ 11:34 am
Mass media entertainment is a cavalcade of stupidity and trash right now. It’s amazing the number of tatted up, barely literate “artists” we’re seeing across a variety of genres, and it’s sad how those aesthetics are infecting everything else. To a large extent it seems like metaphor, key changes, melody, nuanced emotional expression, and song structure have receded way into the background, replaced by literalism and looping chords and rigid percussion. It used to be normal for songs to have different melodies and changes from intro to verse to prechorus to chorus to bridge etc, and now we get a loop of 4 chords more often than not. The key change where you’d get IV – I – V7 – II, where the II chord changed key, was incredibly common. As one example. Or changes that would go major, major7, dom7, IV. Major to minor shifts. Or saving the V chord for the chorus. Or instrumental virtuosity. All increasingly gone. It’s sad. Music like the linked video reeks of stupidity and laziness all around, and it’s insulting to the listener. If saying that is judgmental or elitist, cool. Because I’d rather be judgmental and elitist than to be so easily pleased as to accept that sad excuse for music.
February 28, 2023 @ 2:21 pm
She has a sleeve tattoo. She looks like every basic white girl that has 100+ men inside of her but will white on her wedding when she traps some poor sucker.
Bet she buys all her décor at HomeGoods but she is pure “country.”
Now I know how Aetius felt.
February 28, 2023 @ 2:44 pm
man, you are such a loser.
February 28, 2023 @ 4:05 pm
No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth
March 1, 2023 @ 6:34 am
That you, Katie? Try and make it a little less obvious next time.
February 28, 2023 @ 4:53 pm
Well she’s lez so…
March 1, 2023 @ 8:52 am
Methinks you’re being a bit dramatic, hoss. This girl isn’t exactly Atilla the Hun threatening the Roman Empire. It’s just a shitty song that country music will be weather just fine. The song is dogshit (I’m sure the rest of her music is too), but you being hung up on her tattoos and speculating on the number of dudes she’s fucked says more about you than it does her.
March 2, 2023 @ 9:18 am
Joust for her honor.
Generalizations exist for a reason. You can find her type on Tinder.
March 1, 2023 @ 9:00 am
Flavius “Last Of The Romans” Aetius? Is “being white trash” Attila the Hun in this metaphor?
March 1, 2023 @ 11:17 am
Yes.
A great man who witnessed the Empire dying because of dissipate citizens despite his best efforts.
Attila the Hun would be the general degrading of standards.
March 2, 2023 @ 5:37 pm
katie is a lesbian, shes come out and everything
February 28, 2023 @ 2:44 pm
Sounds like a jingle for a tv commercial selling cruises to old white people.
February 28, 2023 @ 3:08 pm
What in the sister fucking, gimme a tall boy, a pack of GPCs, and the rest of this five on pump 4, country fried bullshit did I just watch 2 minutes of? Holy shit…
February 28, 2023 @ 5:30 pm
You made it longer than me. I made it to 1:30.
February 28, 2023 @ 3:15 pm
I say, again- I’m glad I’m 75- this whole world is fucked, and it has 0 to do with where Tik-Tok came from.
This is a monkey see, monkey do world and when the lead monkeys act-a-fool, so too will the follower monkeys. She (and those of her ilk) are merely the results of decades of lead monkeys (authority figures) acting a-fool in public… most wouldn’t know what honor was if it was tattooed on their forehead.
Sadly, it is about education… which is simply a passing on of knowledge… the knowledge passed on is the problem… it is mostly opinion denying facts … she’s just an immature brat trying to show off and rebel… Woody Guthrie is probably rolling over in his grave as well as the Founders… sad, sad, sad- the experiment at self governing proves people are ignorant and prefer to be.
February 28, 2023 @ 3:41 pm
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February 28, 2023 @ 3:53 pm
I think y’all are being too harsh on her. I mean,the way she switches from a Chicago Bulls hat to a Texas Longhorns hat not only shows her creativity, but also her diversity.
February 28, 2023 @ 4:00 pm
Why is the South is way more obsessed with the Mason Dixon line than the North is? I was shocked when I moved to TN that country folk will still call you a Yankee to your face. Not that I mind, it’s just that I would never consider calling someone that sounds like Kentucky a Rebel in normal conversation.
February 28, 2023 @ 4:07 pm
The South has pride. Unlike Yankeeland. And I am from Pennsylvania. Then again, there isn’t much to be proud of up North. Our tea isn’t sweet and we eat oatmeal instead of grits. And our women have to wear parkas to look good.
But the leaves are pretty come fall.
February 28, 2023 @ 4:16 pm
man, you are such an idiot.
February 28, 2023 @ 5:33 pm
Man, you want my attention.
And sentences begin with capital letters, idiot.
February 28, 2023 @ 5:43 pm
Guys, nobody is here for your back and forths. Let’s move on please, and contribute SOMETHING, ANYTHING to the conversation.
February 28, 2023 @ 6:20 pm
Trigger,
Don’t lump me with the poster that started both conversations with insults.
February 28, 2023 @ 7:03 pm
CK,
Be honest, you miss having The Uncouth Jester as your primary antagonist on here, don’t you? At least he was clever.
February 28, 2023 @ 7:15 pm
hmm it seems i first responded to a post that was a complete misogynistic insult calling her a slut. that was you right?
big incel vibes from you. BIG.
March 1, 2023 @ 5:19 am
Honky,
I do. CLS was entertaining and enjoyed history and football.
March 3, 2023 @ 10:51 am
I thank the Lord every day I am from the West. Therefore, I do not have to care about the North vs. South.
February 28, 2023 @ 4:08 pm
While I tend to not like stuff like this, I usually can tolerate listening to the whole song and if it has a halfway decent beat, I might even tolerate it. But this just sounds horrible.
February 28, 2023 @ 5:57 pm
The only country rap I have every liked was Cowboy Troy, his album Black in the Saddle is one of the best rap albums I have ever heard, he mixes hard rock, pop, blues and country with rap and it works out great, I really don’t care for this other stuff. Cowboy Troy still does great music he even did a half rap half blues album, no rap in those songs, and he actually has a good singing voice, I know a lot of people don’t like rap mixed with country, fine, your taste, but just like any music, it can be good if you can find some one who can sing it. They will never be Charlie pride, or Johnny Cash, but if they can put variety in there music and write good songs, then I can enjoy it.
February 28, 2023 @ 6:31 pm
How is this any different from Elvis imitating Big Mama Thornton?
Answer: it’s just smarter with product placement.
It’s pathetic and sad to see country people aping city people, language, and customs. But are there any actual country people left, and if so, are they making their own music? You have to get pretty far off the grid to find them. With TV and professional marketing, it was just a matter of time until the cultural purge came in America, and it came in waves. We’re just watching the latest waves drowning the remaining survivors.
In the end, King Honky is right. Country people are hard to find. Most of the people who style themselves country are suburbanites. They’re … obedient. I also know country hipsters, who are suburbanites trying to avoid being suburban mainly by making poor life choices. There are also plenty of stylists making country music, and sometimes you can find good ones. Enjoy them. We all do. Justify your consumption by telling yourself that everything comes from something else. Give yourself a good pat on the back.
But it’s not real, and everyone knows it. In fact, this “Katie Noel” is so derivative, it’s indistinguishable from the production of an AI engine. Country music is alive and well, but you won’t find it on the radio. And in Katie Noel, it’s dead.
If you’re in the country reading this, you’re going to have to create it yourself.
February 28, 2023 @ 6:59 pm
Corncaster,
You’re an all-time great commenter on here; wise among the wise. I wish you commented more. You always make some of the best observations:
“I also know country hipsters, who are suburbanites trying to avoid being suburban mainly by making poor life choices.”
Wow.
February 28, 2023 @ 7:35 pm
That’s nice, Honk, thanks. Busy here lately, and generally less of a dick in person. In case anyone cares, my rules for not being Katie Noel are simple:
1. Learn your instrument.
2. Join a tradition, but don’t be a joiner.
3. Write about real life.
4. Don’t be boring.
But no, everyone wants primarily to monetize their schtick. *shrug* A wise man once said, “Drive your cart and your plow over the bones of the dead.”
February 28, 2023 @ 7:32 pm
Are you saying that to be “real country people,” we have to live in the woods and be Jeremiah Johnson to be legitimate? I grew up suburban, with two white collar parents (who both grew up farming). I still find myself drawn to the authenticity and “realness” of what most would call “real country.”
Just because I grew and still live on the outskirts of a city does not mean I don’t find myself turning around to face the fields and woods on the other side of my property line.
February 28, 2023 @ 7:57 pm
Fuel, I have no interest in defining “legitimate.” Country means rural. Good initial tests are whether you’re on city water/sewer, whether you and your friends pay farrier bills, and whether you believe bullsh*t on television.
March 1, 2023 @ 8:41 am
Does the average country person even own horses these days? I grew up in rural Texas, and even most of the ranchers/farmers I knew just used four wheelers to get around their land. Country folks that owned horses weren’t uncommon by any means, but they were certainly more the exception than the rule.
March 1, 2023 @ 7:26 pm
Ah, yes; it depends on the subsect of country person you see. Those that ride horses as apart if their daily tasks and duties are your cowboys. Those that own them on a farm for farm work/leisure are your hillbillies (my category). And those that just live in bumfuck nowhere are either your mountain men or rednecks, dependent upon surroundings. They usually ain’t got horses.
March 6, 2023 @ 7:00 am
This “bro-country-rap” song, by a female artist peddling her schtick, has no similarity at all to Elvis Presley and his great cover version of Big Mama Thornton’s “Hound Dog.” To even make such a comparison is absurd. Elvis was a genuine lover of traditional country music, blues, gospel, and other great American musical forms. He grew up in the South listening closely to these forms of music, and buying the records and studying them as a serious fan. He also lived in largely black neighborhoods as a child, and even went to largely black churches as a white teenager in the South in the early ’50s, which was an act of cultural defiance in the environment of that time. He loved the people, and the style of worship and music, in those churches. With “Hound Dog,” Elvis didn’t “imitate” Big Mama Thornton– he covered a song that she (and another artist, too, which Elvis had actually heard before BMT’s version) had recorded first, written by two Jewish men, Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller. Elvis’ version of the song even doesn’t particularly sound much like BMT’s version. His “Hound Dog” is so different, musically, and lyrically, in some ways, from her version that it’s almost like a different song. He was a genuine artist who combined country music, blues, soul, crooner-style balladeering, and other styles into his recordings, and, along with Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis, and others, helped to create the 1950s rock and roll sound. Elvis has nothing in common, artistically, with this “country-rapper,” Katie Noel.
March 6, 2023 @ 7:04 am
To be clear, I was replying to Corncaster with my comment, not to anything that Trigger wrote in his article here.
February 28, 2023 @ 7:24 pm
I’m sure several enterprising A&R reps in Nashville already have paperwork drafted up.
February 28, 2023 @ 8:17 pm
Sweet Georgia Brown this is too bad to even be parody. I feel dumber and angrier after watching that.
March 1, 2023 @ 10:49 am
It really shouldn’t bother you…
February 28, 2023 @ 8:57 pm
I tried listening. Couldn’t. Turned on some Alan Jackson, feel way better now
February 28, 2023 @ 9:06 pm
I never underestimate the everyday window-licker. Southern has over 100k views on YouTube. The new Lucero album is killer and not one song has anywhere near close to that many views. People generally suck.
February 28, 2023 @ 9:20 pm
On the positive, I’ve yet to see one comment, tiktok etc that’s praising it. So far all I see is criticism. So there’s that.
March 1, 2023 @ 8:07 am
To be the pessimist she has almost 500k followers on spotify, to put that in perspective thats 100k more than American Aquarium. She also has 750k followers on tik tok. Soo we may be stuck with her for the summer
March 1, 2023 @ 12:05 am
she is the living embodiment of some chick from NJ, after two semesters at Bama
still would
and let her dog watch
March 1, 2023 @ 1:33 am
Not to be that guy, but I’m calling it. She will be around for longer than 15 minutes, maybe 30 minutes because she’s a gay woman in “country” and the media will embrace the fuck out of this and push it down our throats that the reason why there’s hate on the song is because of this not because it’s a shitty song. Meanwhile, the same media will stay silent on other more talented gay artists that people actually like
March 1, 2023 @ 5:08 am
You mean like how they treat blacks in country?
March 1, 2023 @ 7:58 am
If you’re meaning by pushing false narratives for clicks like when Kane Brown was blowing up while all the while staying silent on Mickey Guyton and others, yes. (Esp considering Mickey got blackmailed from the video of media darlings the Highwomen)
March 1, 2023 @ 3:48 am
I don’t know what everyone is so worked up about. This is not country, does not resemble country, and has nothing to do with country. The difference between this and so much other rap is that she uses English for the most part correctly.
Maybe we should be mad that mainstream country can call itself country. Or maybe we should bargain for Roger Alan Wade, Corb, and Tyler Childers to no longer be called country and instead be called something else entirety. That would fix the whole situation.
March 1, 2023 @ 5:07 am
Hick Hop is like ICP in the 2000’s. It existed and was popular underground and none of your friends excitedly showed you their music because deep down (while they had the hatchet man hoodies and tattoos) they knew it was stupid music they should be embarrassed of that was essentially their audible barrier to never escape the lower middle class. Only the performers broke that barrier; like some sort of redneck pyramid scheme.
March 1, 2023 @ 5:15 am
Are Whiskey Riff rewriting their own past?
March 1, 2023 @ 5:37 am
24 years old female and i hate this. She’s just making a joke of herself imo. At least if you’re gonna do hick hop make it good. Guilty pleasure but I do actually like some of it from time to time. Mainly when drinking lol. Charlie Farley, Lenny Cooper, The Lacs with Nate Kenyon, and some Colt Ford is okay. But none of these viral ones are ever good they just sound stupid.
March 1, 2023 @ 6:28 am
I guess it was only a matter of time before pop country had its own version of Iggy Azalea.
Hopefully she lasts as long as Iggy did (if not shorter).
March 1, 2023 @ 8:08 am
Damn that’s a good, funny, and sad analogy all in one
March 1, 2023 @ 8:07 am
I’m just here to say this is the greatest line in writing and sadly you have to retire now. On top is the only way to go
I want to see all of you Tik-Tok apologists try to convince us now that this app isn’t a Chinese psyop to slowly devolve us all into drooling fuckwits who can barely tie our shoes.
March 1, 2023 @ 5:27 pm
…”I want to see all of you Tik-Tok apologists try to convince us now that this app isn’t a Chinese psyop to slowly devolve us all into drooling fuckwits who can barely tie our shoes”…..
No, it’s not a psyop at all, and it’s not trying to devolve us. It’s purpose is to take advantage of the fact that we are already a nation of devolved, drooling f**kwits who can barely tie our shoes.
March 1, 2023 @ 8:27 am
There are some of us who enjoy traditional country music as well as hick hop. However, I don’t consider hick hop to be country music. In my music collection, I have Colt Ford, Cowboy Troy, and The Jawga Boyz in the rap folder.
March 1, 2023 @ 7:28 pm
Why even acknowledge “country rap” as a thing?
“Rap” isn’t even music. There are no instruments, and there is no singing. Lots of yelling & grabbing one’s junk is not “music.”
Jeez.
March 1, 2023 @ 8:44 pm
What an absurd, ignorant statement. I’m not a hip hop fan, but you sound ridiculous.
March 1, 2023 @ 11:25 pm
Name your top 5 rap guitarists.
Follow-up: Name your top five rap drummers.
March 2, 2023 @ 7:23 am
That is no different than asking Name your top 5 country mcs or name your top 5 country djs (not disc jockeys) or programmers. Guitar or ‘’traditional’’ singing are not more a major aspect of rap than French horn or Tuvan throat singing are of country. It’s called rap because they rap. Duh. You do not have to like a genre of music. Art is subjective. You should respect the true artist. There is bad hip hop just like there is bad country, rock, blues, etc. I am not a fan of rap, but a I do respect the artists that can create rhymes that are poetic, literary, elicit deep emotion, etc. I also respect artists that can create complex beats and samples. I am no fan of Tuvan throat singing, but I respect the hell out of it. You and Questlove should debate this topic. I am confident in knowing who would look the fool.
March 2, 2023 @ 11:11 am
I’m pretty sure the fool is the person who thought calling themself “Questlove” was a good idea.
March 2, 2023 @ 11:17 am
I assume you feel the same about the person who thought calling themselves “Conway Twitty” was a good idea.
March 2, 2023 @ 5:20 pm
Nope. “Questlove” is the name of a clown who has far too high an opinion of himself.
March 2, 2023 @ 5:37 pm
Haha! Amir Thompson has objectively more artistic talent than Harold Jenkins did. One could make the case that if either of them’s stage name/persona was/is clownish, it would be Harold’s. I would say neither of them were/are clowns. Denying Questlove’s major talent just shows your ignorance. The guy is a true renaissance man. Research him. Conway had a excellent singing voice and wrote some songs, in addition to crafting a marketable image with his pompadour, song choices and affect. Nothing wrong with that. Again, you do not have to like a music style, but not respecting true talent says more about you than Questlove and other hip hop artists.
March 2, 2023 @ 6:52 am
All balls
No talent
Fucktwit
Has a bright future
March 2, 2023 @ 9:16 am
I listened to a Honky Tonk Piano playlist today, and “Yellow Rose of Texas” came on. It struck me how many odes to women from Southern states there are, but I can’t think of the Northern equivalent of “Yellow Rose” or “Rosalee” in country music. There must be some songs.
By the way, Honky Tonk piano is excellent listening. We need more Honky Tonk piano in modern country music.
December 15, 2023 @ 8:33 am
“Sweet smoked brisket.” Really? I like mine kinda salty, but I’m not an authentic southerner like Katie Noel.
March 2, 2023 @ 2:00 pm
Hmmmm….Guess Yours Truly should be writing Country songs.
March 2, 2023 @ 2:03 pm
I’m Brady,but my surname isn’t Cox .
March 3, 2023 @ 7:37 am
Rap died somewhere around 1993/94.
March 3, 2023 @ 8:27 am
Unfortunately,2023 is rap’s/hip hop’s 50th anniversary,and it’s the world’s favourite music.
As for “Southern,” my two-year-old great-great-niece likely will write more intelligent lyrics when she enters second grade. (Yes,that Ms. Noel is a woman makes “Southern” seem even more terrible,but equality is the right to be just as execrable as the lads.)
March 3, 2023 @ 8:30 am
There are no odes to handsome older black cowboys.
March 3, 2023 @ 4:25 pm
Anthony Cumia torched this one too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG8NpBU112c
March 3, 2023 @ 7:51 pm
I personally love country rap (have been playing Jelly Roll nonstop ever since I found out about him). But this girl is just trying too hard. It seems forced….
March 4, 2023 @ 8:46 am
Who the h**l is Jelly Roll ?
March 4, 2023 @ 1:08 pm
Jelly Roll is an ex con ex drug addict fat tortured soul who writes songs from the authentic bottom of his heart like I haven’t heard in ages. Stuff that makes you cry. You might recognize Son of a Sinner, it was a big hit. His songs range from country to rock to rap and he has a huge cult audience, 1st tour is small arenas with Ashley McBryde opening for him on some dates.
March 4, 2023 @ 8:48 am
OK,Dee, but where are Fake Cowboy Troy and Fat Boy Farris (Colt Ford ) today ?
March 4, 2023 @ 8:50 am
I meant,Fat Boy Jason Farris Brown ? ( “Colt Ford?”)
March 8, 2023 @ 9:57 am
Katie Noel only went “viral” due to the fact the song is so bad, and the lyrics being even worse. Not all of us southern people enjoy her style of music. I get tired of people assuming a southern person has no intelligence, half toothless, poor, shit jobs and trashy. Her song is terrible but you do not have to insult every southern person because she can’t sing/rap whatever. Not all of us are stupid.
December 15, 2023 @ 8:34 am
“Sweet smoked brisket.” Really? I like mine kinda salty, but I’m not an authentic southerner like Katie Noel.
January 19, 2024 @ 4:24 pm
Well,my surname isn’t Cox,but….Ms. Noel is just 23,and hopefully she will record listenable (and relatable) Country music before her 30th birthday. (Happy 78th birthday,Dolly Parton!!!!!!!)
January 19, 2024 @ 4:26 pm
Kiser,PLENTY of “thug life” rappers are (black) Southerners .( Ever heard of the “Dirty South” rap movement based in Atlanta?)
January 19, 2024 @ 4:29 pm
Manning,if you want to sob your eyes out,listen to the 4-37 Detroit Pistons games.
January 19, 2024 @ 4:32 pm
Yeah,I know,Country Knight .Monday was the 95th anniversary of the birth ofa man who was assassinated Apr.4,1968 for speaking the truth. (Hope you enjoyed the holiday,pardner !!!!!!!)