Everlast & The Chemistry of Country & Hip Hop
When Saving Country Music decided to take a hardline stance against the infiltration of rap into country, one of the requisites I put on myself was to attempt to find the few instances where the bridging of the two genres actually works. As I said in my Survival Guide to Country Rap:
Do not diminish the arguments against country rap by lumping all country rap together. I am sure there has been in the past, and will be in the future, some blends of country and rap that are respectful to the roots of the music, and enjoyable to listen to while not insulting the intelligence of the listener. It is not fair to the honesty and heartfelt approach of these artists who are breeding originality through bridging artforms to lump them in with Jason Aldean.
Since then I have been aggressively seeking to find these instances, to prove I’m not just talk, and trust me folks when I say I’ve almost sprouted a six pack from the workout my abdominal muscles have received from the dry heaves most country rap stimulates. One recent project though intrigued me from the press I read about it, called Songs Of The Ungrateful Living by Everlast, former member of House of Pain, who you probably remember best from their hit song “Jump Around.”
A few years ago, before the rise of Colt Ford or country rap as a mainstream approach, Everlast was experimenting with incorporating country elements and themes into his hip hop music. Notice I said “incorporating” instead of “bridging” the two genres together. I remember getting dozens of emails when he released a hip-hop-style cover of Cash’s “Folsom Prison Blues” in 2008, but I spared it the poison pen, seeing it more as a silly gimmick than a serious attempt by Everlast to “go country.” In fact Everlast has gone out of his way to make sure people do not call him country. In an article from LA Weekly entitled “Don’t Call Him Country. Everlast Is Hip-Hop, Dammit,” Everlast said:
I think that’s one of the biggest misunderstandings about me. Everything I do is hip-hop. I don’t care if it sounds like a country ballad; if I’m doing it, it’s hip-hop.
Everlast went even further with Hip-Hop DX to call out artists who in the face of descending popularity, try to use the rising action of the country music super genre to resurrect their careers:
I’m not one of these dudes that would come out and be like, “Oh look at me. I’m a Country artist now.”… I would never try to put on a uniform and act like, “Look at me now, I’m a country dude.” That’s real lame. How many times have you seen an artist or somebody who is failing in their actual genre of whatever I don’t believe in genres anyways, first of all. That should be obvious by what I do. But let’s just say how any times have you seen some Pop princess or some Pop-fucking-singer, boy-toy whatever motherfucker falling down in their career and all of a sudden are like, “I’m a Country singer now.” It’s lame, man.
What I realized when listening to Everlast’s album and reading his take on “going country” is that attempting to bridge country and rap comes down to chemistry. Mixing country and rap may not be like trying to mix oil and water because of how polarizingly-different the two genres are, it’s more like when you pour a dominant chemical into a recessive chemical: you end up with all of one, and none of the other.
Since country is such a traditional art form, as soon as you interject a hip-hop element into the music (rapping, drum loops, samples, whatever) it ceases to be country, and instantly becomes hip-hop. When I talked about how country was taking a submissive role to hip-hop in the formation of the mono-genre, this may be one of the reasons. Everlast uses steel guitar, fiddle, banjo, and country themes in his songs, but he wouldn’t think once about calling his songs country, because they’re clearly still hip hop. One of the calling cards of hip hop is to borrow beats and elements from other genres, and it has been that was since hip hop’s beginning. In other words, there is no country rap. There’s country, and there’s hip hop.
I think this is also one of the reasons so many songs sold as “country rap” also incorporate laundry list/country checklist elements, where the listener is brow beaten with a barrage of “ice cold beer, back roads, pickup truck” countryisms. They’re attempting to countrify a song that is inherently hip-hop to cover up the crime. And when I use words like “recessive” when talking about country, that is not to imply country is weaker or not as good as hip hop, it is simply the nature of how the two genres interact.
And please don’t get me wrong, I am not endorsing Everlast or Songs Of The Ungrateful Living. It is a hip-hop album, and not being an expert on the genre, I don’t have a right to an opinion above my own taste. What I do know is that Everlast was able to incorporate country elements into hip-hop music, and do so not as a gimmick to create the widest possible demographics based on commercial concerns, but do so out of respect and understanding for both art forms with no pandering for commercial appeal. How many more albums could he sell if he simply made a big deal about “going country?” Instead Everlast went with honesty, speaking the truth about how even though he may incorporate country elements into his music, it is still unquestionably hip hop. And that my friends deserves two guns up!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTA1oY02vFI
November 18, 2011 @ 1:20 pm
I have always had a small sweet spot for Everlast. I don’t like everything he does, and I am rarely in the mood for hip hop music, but I feel he’s pretty genuine and good at what he does.
November 18, 2011 @ 1:24 pm
Everlast is most known for “What Its Like”, good song.
November 18, 2011 @ 1:41 pm
This is a good tune, I also like “What it’s Like” and love “Jump Around”. In 2007, I went to the J.A.M. Awards in honor of Jam Master Jay and it was one of the best hip-hop shows I’ve ever seen. Everybody was there from Snoop Dogg to De La Soul to Dead Prez with a little bit of Wu Tang. The only sketchy moment of the night was when Everlast came on stage. The audience was so against his presence, it actually got uncomfortable for a few minutes. I don’t know if there was a specific reason for the tension or if it was just a round peg in a square hole situation, but I can tell you at that one show he was not embraced by the hip-hop community at all. I felt bad for the guy.
November 18, 2011 @ 1:56 pm
I’m not a fan of Everlast. Not of this song either. The only song I’ve ever enjoyed from him is Black Jesus. I think the big reason for that is the feud between him and Eminem. I’m not a huge fan of rap, but I respect the shit out of Eminem because if there was such a thing as Outlaw Rap, it’s him IMO. He does what he wants, and I can respect that.
November 18, 2011 @ 4:37 pm
This was not a review of Everlast, this album, and especially not the song that I picked completely at random just as an example of music to help people give people some context. And apparently you’re not alone in thinking it was such either, but whatever.
November 18, 2011 @ 2:54 pm
Excellent review. Yep, I agree that he deserves two guns up as he sounds like an artist with integrity.
Gillian: that is really sad. Awkward!
November 18, 2011 @ 3:06 pm
you can’t make country rap sound authentic but you can make a countrified rap with the whole sampling and what not and it can still come off sounding fresh…im not big on commercial rap but i do still listen to a good amount of “indie,underground” hip hop and i can confidently say this whole country rap shit isnt even a blip on they’re radar. you wanna get rid of pop country?..let hip hop infiltrate music row. let’s see Mike(?) Curb come up late with Suge Knight’s money and see what happens.
November 18, 2011 @ 4:40 pm
I don’t think it’s unrealistic at all that hip hop could infiltrate, and eventually dominate Music Row. With the current trajectory, it is almost inevitable.
November 18, 2011 @ 5:01 pm
hip hop has already kinda set up shop over in Memphis..unless the recording gets done there,Nashville might be a little to pastey for that to ever happen.
November 18, 2011 @ 5:23 pm
According to American Songwriter, Nashville hip-hop is on the rise in Nashville, and in a big way.
http://www.americansongwriter.com/2011/09/soundland-and-the-rise-of-nashville-hip-hop/
This was my response.
https://savingcountrymusic.com/hip-hop-infiltrates-nashville-through-soundland-2011
The best selling song in all of 2011 that came off of Music Row was “Dirt Road Anthem”, written by country rap kingpin and Grimmace look alike Colt Ford, with the help of Brantley Gilbert, and made popular by Jason Aldean. Rap is already alive on Music Row, and doing very well.
November 18, 2011 @ 5:55 pm
Grimmace,lol..i can honestly say ive never heard one song of his. thanks for that american songwriter link. i know zero about Nashville hip hop and thats a perfect jumpoff.
November 18, 2011 @ 3:33 pm
What makes Everlast work is he is real. And that makes every kind of music work.
Beasties Boys and Everlast/House of Pain were originals ushering in the idea of guys like Eminem and Kid Rock. ,
Jason Aldean’s “Dirt Road Anthem” sucks mainly because Aldean tries to sound like a rapper.
Everlast, when he takes a country song, or a song with country sound, he doesn’t try to “sound” country or southern. He is all urban, all hip hop. Usually does a nice job on the song.
Not saying Dirt Road Anthem is a good song, but I promise it would sound a lot better had it just been done by a rapper. Or had Aldean just done the “spoken word” type method in the song. Aldeans voice goes to a “black rapper” place when he does the song. Completely horse shit.
November 18, 2011 @ 4:45 pm
not trying to nitpick but Kid Rock has been rapping just as long,if not longer then Everlast has. some of Kid Rock’s early hip hop album covers are absolutely ridiculous.
November 18, 2011 @ 5:18 pm
Let’s name this new genre: count-rap. Uh, ok, coun-trap. Jeeze, the sound gets messed up cause of the “o” so let’s shorten that to cun-trap. There! Now say it three times fast and it will stick.
November 18, 2011 @ 6:20 pm
Ha!
Just please don’t call it cunt-trap. The idea of that is making my penis wince.
November 18, 2011 @ 6:40 pm
Triggerman you have to check out ” Gangstagrass” I’m not a fan of hip hop but this guy Rench is genius.Rench- Elkhorn Riders Featuring the Lonesome Sisters
is another one you should definitely check out. Someone mentioned Gangstagrass in one of the comments here and I’ve been listening every since.
November 18, 2011 @ 9:50 pm
Yeah, I’ve heard it. I probably should listen to it some more, but really it cam be broken down to just a being mashup, like happen in the techno/hip hop world all the time. It not that it makes it bad, but it’s hard to compare that to even what an artist like Yelawof is doing. I may do a review of gangstagrass at some point, but it doesn’t really fit the context of what I’m looking for.
November 18, 2011 @ 8:55 pm
I’ve actually heard some of the Gangstagrass stuff. Couldn’t listen to much of it though because I just couldn’t feel it. You’d be surprised at how much of this style you can find when you go looking for it. Jump on youtube and just follow the suggestions and you’ll find this guy, who basically looks like Colt Ford dressed as Snoop Dogg, named Big Smo. He’s got a whole little ‘group’ with about 3 or 4 other guys doing the same thing. You’ll also find a duo by the name of ‘The Lacs’. Some of it can be fun to listen to, but overall none of it really has any context or feeling behind it. All they do is take the “I’m so gangsta” attitude from hip-hop and turn it into “I’m so country”. It’s all worthless.
November 19, 2011 @ 9:20 am
Though I realize this isn’t a review of Everlast, I must admit I have been a fan for a while, especially his works where he collaborated with Santana (and I dislike Santana, haha). I definitely enjoy his take on hip hop although I never really considered there to be a country influence. I suppose it never occurred to me. That being said, his is a pretty decent songwriter and story teller.
This rise of faux country being mixed with hip hop is probably not going to die down for quite a while but the plus side to this is that we may seem some southern/Nashville artists with a unique (or at least different) take on hip hop. I’m not implying they will mix country into their music (maybe it will just be a stronger focus on story telling, etc.).
November 19, 2011 @ 4:53 pm
Not tryin to offend you Triggerman, but I’m so damn tired of all this rap shit. It’s more depressing everyday. It’s sad we even have to talk about the infusion of the two genres. I guess I’m too traditional.
November 19, 2011 @ 10:51 pm
I totally hear you man, and make no mistake about it, I’m tired of hearing about it to, and I got two more articles about it in the works at the moment. I’m not trying to pat myself on the back, but I called this trend years ago. I never thought that a country rap song would be the best selling song in 2011, but that is where we’re at right now. And as long as the majority of country music writers sit on their hands about what’s happening, I’m going to speak up.
I think this article was misunderstood by the vast majority of people that read it. I’m not complaining, I always feel grateful when people read anything I write.
Even as someone whose been doing hip hop for 20 years, Everlast can see how stupid this all is. And he’s willing to be honest about it, something most folks in country are unwilling to do. And I have a lot of respect for that.
And after listening to his music and reading his comments, I now know the way we need to handle country rap from now on, which is not to call it “country rap”, but call it what it is, which is hip hop.
November 19, 2011 @ 7:20 pm
Not strictly country rap but the UK’s mighty Alabama 3 (they’re from London and there’s about 10 of them!) have been successfully blending country influences and dance beats (and radical politics) for many years now and remain one of our very finest live bands. It works because they are clearly genuine and knowledgeable fans of both styles They were the guys who did the Sopranos theme, in case you’re unfamiliar with them. Please forgive their accents.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-z3OjTIVfU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/user/Alabama3akaA3#p/u/46/X5BnzIh2dsk
http://www.youtube.com/user/Alabama3akaA3#p/u/48/DtUxqjJk-JU
November 19, 2011 @ 11:00 pm
See to me that’s just dance music with country elements. I know you already said that, but I think a lot of people are getting that confused with what is being called country rap. I remember there was a dance version of “Cotton Eyed Joe” back when I was in Jr. High. I find this much less offensive, but I also don’t find it as deep. As much as I despise Colt Ford, he’s sitting down with a guitar and a piece of paper, and really working at crafting an original song, while stuff like this is studio mashup stuff. Not saying that’s bad, it’s just a completely different world.
November 21, 2011 @ 1:06 pm
Alabama 3 do the opening credit song for The Sopranos right?
November 20, 2011 @ 6:35 am
Hiphop has been an influence in all kinds of music since the beginning. And that makes sense to me. Hiphop used ingredients from all of music, put a beat to it and started rapping instead of singing. It got on the radio, and it spread and spread. And the more it spread it got more watered down, to commercially acceptable mainstream. Does that sound a bit like what happened to country music? It’s no more than logical that the two should meet at some point in time.
At this point in time in my opinion it’s more likely that the best music coming from this meeting will be made by hiphop-artists, because as far as I know selling out is not really acceptable in the hiphop-scene. And it’s almost a way of living in Nashville. We all know that. Maybe there will be hiphop-albums with more banjo on it than the top ten selling albums in the country-charts. I’ll be interested in hearing the good stuff, and you can always write about that, Triggerman.
I’ve just listened to the Everlast-song you put up. A song made with the greatest respect for Johnny Cash, I think. And I liked it.
November 20, 2011 @ 3:03 pm
With the exception of the Outlaw era, country music has been the only genre of American music where businessmen make a majority of the creative decisions. Though country has weathered the storm of the contraction of the music business unlike rock and many other genres, I think without question hip hop is still the most dominant genre, in music and culture.
November 20, 2011 @ 8:58 am
I think one of the problems is that there are many different varieties of “country rap.” None are particularly new, and in general most of are awful, but they are different from one another. We got:
1. Mashups or samples of country music
This is mostly what you find on the internet. Here you sync some country instrumentals up to a hip hop beat and rap over it. Many people think this is new, but one of my favorite examples is the Geto Boys rapping over Sweet Home Alabama back in the early 90s (assuming Lynyrd Skynyrd is country).
2. Hip hop artists rapping about “country” themes
This results in the highest quality music, though it is not country per se. People have been doing this for a long time. My favorite example is Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik. Outkast is just as proud to be from the South as anyone in pop country. The only development is that white people are now doing this. Even this you could argue Kid Rock has been doing for a long time, “You straight outta Compton, I’m straight out the trailer.”
3. Hip hop artists pairing with a country singer on a song
The one that pops into my head is that Tim McGraw and Nelly song from several years back. Snoop and Willie Nelson is another example. In my opinion, this does not result is a country song in any way.
4. Country singers trying to rap
A sign the apocalypse is upon us. Aldean deservedly gets a bunch of heat for this, but people have done this before. I agree that there is a big difference between spoken word country and rap, but don’t try to tell me that DAC is not attempting to rap in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_Nsy9CkoRU
And for the metal heads, don’t try to tell me that Pantera didn’t embarrassingly dip their foot in this water on “No Good.”
5. Blending hip hop elements into country songs
In my opinion, there are very few examples of this being done successfully. The are only a few examples I can think of. One is Steve Earle’s Washington Square Serenade which was produced by John King of the Dust Brothers (which I have brought up before). The other is maybe Willie Nelson’s Countryman which mixes some dub effects (which also appear in hip hop) with country.
November 20, 2011 @ 3:01 pm
I think that a very good, fair breakdown.
The mashups and remixes are not the ones that worry me, and they never have. What worries me is the rapping, drum loops, and the use of Auto-tune, not just for pitch correction, but as an effect, in what is otherwise country music. Since The Beastie Boys “Paul’s Boutique”, samples of country and other genres of music has been used to make hip hop.
November 20, 2011 @ 5:21 pm
after the Beastie Boys Ill Communication album,they “unoffically” dropped a country record on they’re Grand Royal label called Country Mike’s Greatest Hits…needless to say,it’s not very good.
November 20, 2011 @ 7:05 pm
I’ve been a fan of Everlast for years. I have never considered him even countryish, but do realize why some might.
BTW If you are looking for rap masterpiece that includes country elements, I would suggest Bubba Sparxxx – Deliverance.
November 20, 2011 @ 8:37 pm
I don’t think it is Everlast that is being considered country, I think it is his latest album specifically, which has many country elements, banjo, fille, steel guitar, etc., and some country “themes” to the songs.