It Wasn’t Beyonce That Was The Victim of Bias at the 2017 Grammy Awards
I promised myself I wasn’t going to get into the think piece war of words over the continued claims by many in the media that Beyoncé somehow got screwed at the 2017 Grammy Awards, and whether race or genre bias had anything to do with it. Many of these pieces were written before the Grammy Awards even started on Sunday, and aren’t worth debating the finer points of. But there is one point that I would like to enter into the musical brain trust, because it seems to be getting glossed over by both sides of the argument, and is of specific import to the subject.
Before I get to it though, I feel the need to point out that music artists who are victims of bias by awards institutions usually don’t walk away with multiple awards on the night like Beyoncé did on Sunday. Yes, she lost out on the evening’s biggest awards for Record of the Year and Album of the Year, but Beyoncé actually won for Best Music Video and Best Urban Contemporary Album. Beyoncé was also nominated for seven other awards, and in four separate genres, which is a Grammy record. Before the night even started Beyoncé was one of the biggest winners of the 2017 Grammy Awards, she received one of the largest performance slots of the presentation, and to try and assert there’s an implicit bias against her regardless of the reason is seems to be shortsighted, and somewhat ungrateful.
That said, I do believe that in Beyoncé’s career, she probably has deserved to win Album of the Year at least once, and it’s uncanny, even maybe a little unfair, that she hasn’t. Though her fans, and many of her sycophants and surrogates in mainstream entertainment media do Beyoncé a disservice by the all of the vitriol they stir and how they act like nothing is ever good enough for her, Beyoncé has clearly had a generation impact on music and culture that is incredible, and could or should be considered an apex contribution in music in a given year, if not multiple ones.
But the simple fact is that during the specific calendar cycle leading up to the 2017 Grammy Awards, Adele’s impact was greater. It was greater on sales, on critical acclaim, and across a wider swath of music listeners than Beyoncé’s was, easily certified by sales and other metrics. This is not saying that numbers should be the only factor in who wins awards, but they can help justify outcomes when you’re looking for bias.
Was Beyoncé’s 2nd place finish to Adele because of race-based reasons since Adele is a white performer, and thus finds more reception among a population that wants their music to be safe, and wants their performers to look like them? Perhaps that’s the case, but that is a hard thing to quantify. It’s basically an opinion. What’s easy to measure, account for, and certify are the votes from the Grammy population, and this year they believed that Adele had the better album.
But there actually was an artist that was so clearly a victim of systemic bias and rigging of the system at the hands of the 2017 Grammy Awards, it’s almost shocking. And nobody is talking about it. In fact Beyoncé was one of the very reasons this particular artist got marginalized.
That artist was Sturgill Simpson.
In recent memory, the Grammy for Best Country Album has been given out during the televised portion of the presentation. But in 2017, and seemingly at the last minute, the award was moved to the pre-telecast, which occurs in the afternoon hours before the primetime awards show. Obviously the vast majority of the 84 Grammy Awards are handed out during the pre-telecast to save time, including many of the country awards. But they usually save Best Country Album for the main show to give the country genre that moment of air time, just as they do for many of the other genres. But not in 2017.
What was the reason for the switch up? It was clearly because the Grammy producers thought Sturgill Simpson did not have the star power that they wanted to see showcased in primetime, so they relegated his award moment to the pre-telecast. What got moved onto the telecast in its stead? Best Urban Contemporary Album, which is often a pre-telecast award, and one that Beyoncé won in 2017. Best Country Solo Performance was also moved to the televised portion to represent the country genre instead of Best Country Album. Maren Morris won Best Country Solo Performance for “My Church.”
The difference between the pre-telecast and the primtime show is not just symbolic. To have your album or song singled out and recognized in front of the largest assembled music audience every year worldwide—in the case of the 2017 Grammy Awards, 26 million people—is not just an incredible honor, it results in a massive sales spike that can mean thousands, even millions of dollars for an artist when factoring in downloads, streams, physical sales, endorsements, and touring increases. And out of the norm, and out of custom—which is what you go looking for when trying to find evidence of bias—Sturgill Simpson was refused that primetime opportunity by the Grammy Awards despite his landmark win. And why? So that Beyoncé could have her moment on camera instead. If anything, this shows bias for Beyoncé by the Grammy Awards.
Now don’t get me wrong, you don’t see Sturgill Simpson fans complaining en masse about this clear bias against him. There’s no anger toward Beyoncé or even the Grammy Awards. No, instead Sturgill Simpson fans are walking around Monday with a grin from ear to ear and a pep in their step, because pre-telecast or primetime, their guy won. And yeah, it sucks that the Grammy Awards shafted him like that, and isn’t it just like the industry that when the underdog and insurgent finally rises up through the crowd, they still treat them like a 2nd class citizen.
But instead of being bitter, Sturgill Simpson fans are grateful. They’re grateful he got an award and another nomination at all, as well as a primetime performance slot. That gratefulness is something Beyoncé fans and her surrogates in the media could learn from.
Sure, it’s great to get some recognition from your peers. It’s great to stand at center stage and have a massive crowd clap your adulation while millions watch on. Beyoncé got that opportunity Sunday evening. Sturgill Simpson didn’t. In the end though, The Grammys are just awards, and neither Beyoncé, nor Sturgill Simpson need them to justify their contributions to the arts of American culture.
All the think pieces rattling off lists of the many reasons Beyoncé deserved these awards are the very reason she doesn’t need the Grammy’s blessing. Beyoncé’s legacy is not going to be hung on how many Grammy Awards she racked up, nor should it be. It will be hung on her music, her songs, her performances, her activism, and the grace she shows in victory, and defeat. That will be the ultimate measure of her music and cultural mark. And her fans and media surrogates shouldn’t sully that legacy with the endless accusations and attacks on a bias that is difficult to impossible to prove, and even if it did exist, is counter-balanced by the incredibly-favorable bias she receives from the media that is on par with no other music star of our generation.
February 13, 2017 @ 6:40 pm
Good stuff.
February 13, 2017 @ 6:47 pm
You didn’t basically just say a white male was a victim of bias because he didn’t get the award he won presented to him in primetime, did you?
Oh, wait, you did.
February 13, 2017 @ 7:04 pm
Oh no, he did.
February 13, 2017 @ 7:13 pm
I didn’t mention anything about race or gender in regards to Sturgill Simpson, Beyonce, or anyone else.
What I did say was if anyone has a beef about the system being rigged against them, and actually has EVIDENCE of that rigging, it’s Sturgill. But you haven’t seen one think piece asserting that point compared to the scores decrying the injustice done to Beyonce. Even this, though some may try to fabricated it into one (as you’ve done), doesn’t pont out why people should be mad, it points out why people ARE happy and grateful. We should be overjoyed we live in a time when music choice is so prevalent, and you can listen to Beyonce and Sturgill Simpson back to back. They’re both generational artists, they both won Grammy Awards, and they both got to perform on primetime. Instead, some see an opportunity to divide us again, and turn the joy of music into a political wedge issue.
February 13, 2017 @ 7:56 pm
Trigger, I’m agreeing with Chris here…I like your site, but for the love of all that is holy:
PLEASE STOP FINDING A WAY TO WORK BEYONCE INTO EVERY FIFTH POST.
Maybe your headline was meant to be clickbait? “It Wasn’t Beyonce That Was The Victim of Bias…” I know you’re smart enough to know what the connotation of that headline is. Unless you’re trying some tired “I don’t see race” B.S.
I like SCM because I felt like it was a safe space for music fans, one that didn’t dredge up the same old pickup truck God-lovin’ down by the creek bullshit. But this stuff?
Think I’m way off base, Trigger? Read most of the commentors on these posts. Again, you’re smart enought to recognize the tone of them, regardless of what you believe yourself to mean.
February 13, 2017 @ 9:34 pm
Chad,
If you think that I’m mentioning Beyonce in every fifth post, or even one out of 10, or even one out of 20, then this says more about your browsing habits than it says about my posts. Has there been an elevated amount of posts about Beyonce in recent history? Of course there has been, because she’s interjected herself into country music, and the media has accused country music of racism and bias, just as they are now accusing of the Grammy Awards. But if all you’re seeing on this site is Beyonce posts, that’s on you.
Same goes for the racist comments. Your eyes are gravitating toward them. I run a website for a living. I’ve read extensive studies on browsing habits. If you didn’t want to see this post, you would have never come here, and you certainly would have not commented. The people that bitch about drama and what they don’t want to see are the first to bury their noses in it at the first chance they get. Meanwhile all my reviews, all my think pieces, all my articles on causes get ignored like the ugly girl at the dance. That’s what folks really don’t want to see, but it’s not cool to say so. And I write them anyway because they are important, just like this post. I don’t run a popularity contest. It’s my job to not care what people think about what I post about or what my opinions are. It’s my job to follow my passion, and be brutally honest with my readers, be damned what they think about it.
I did not wake up this morning planning on writing about Beyonce. But I refuse to sit idly by and watch an institution that awarded her a historic 7 nominations, in a record 4 separate genres, gave her two awards, a 9-minute performance slot—bigger than anyone else—and screwed a roots artist out of a national television opportunity so she could get a chance at the podium, be called racist just because her fans don’t know how to lose.
February 14, 2017 @ 7:18 am
The “every fifth post” comment was sarcasm, Trigger.
We’ll disagree on the second part, Trigger. My eyes don’t just gravitate toward the racist comments; that faction directly responded to my comments with such incisive thoughts as “oh get fucked” and “snowflake having a meltdown” (let’s not pretend we don’t understand where those come from). I don’t like drama, true, but the way I avoid it is I never “go into the comments.” I avoid them, and I don’t talk to random strangers on Twitter — your website seems to be the one exception to my rule. Maybe I’m trying to reason with you, specifically? And to that point, the headline is clickbait-y, Trigger. I appreciate you’ve studied browsing habits much more than I, but I know that clicks help the site run. Looking at your current front page, the 82 comments on this story are the third-most behind your Grammys blog (of course) and will likely soon surpass your Brantley Gilbert review.
I understand you read a lot more music journalism than I do, and follow those topics on Twitter broadly. But every one of these Beyonce stories alludes to some cabal of Beyonce partisans who are screaming “racism” or some such. i haven’t seen that, and I bet most of your readers haven’t, either, because we’re not in that world. But some of them certainly are willing to take the bait and make it racist (****just like those you are protesting about****), regardless of your objective.
February 14, 2017 @ 9:58 am
Chad,
The headline of this story isn’t clickbait for anybody but Chris King. For the last 6 months, the ONLY time I’ve heard from Chris King is when I post an article with “Beyonce” in the title. The hundreds of other articles I’ve posted, the reviews, the features, the think pieces, the news stories, the causes, have been ignored by him, or at least he hasn’t felt the need to interact with them. And I’m the one with the obsession?
The only reason you and others believe this title is click bait is because that’s how Chris King initially presented it to you on Twitter. How about we discuss the substance of this article?
And I’m promise in the future I will only write boring headlines that assure people they don’t want to read my posts. Because apparently there’s a lot of “soul” in that.
February 14, 2017 @ 8:57 pm
See I was just told that me saying “beyonce is not a true songwriter” has racist implications (even though she took 11 writers to come up with monstrosity that us “run the world (girls)”) and so this makes me want to get involved.
The title of the article is not clickbaity. Trigger is trying to justify why Sturgill was undercut by the grammys by comparing his situation to Beyonce’s, who people believe was supposedly snubbed. The title makes the article relevant to a lot more people and puts things into context.
He had a point. You cant say that a certain “artist” with over 20 grammy awards, 7 nominations, 2 awards that night plus a 9 minute performance and live telecast speech was snubbed while ignoring the fact that another artist who was nominated in the same top slot as beyonce didnt even get to accept his award in front of millions (esp when he needed it more considering all of grammy viewers already know about Lemonade and havent even heard of STurgill, let alone given his album) a chance, also the fact that his award has been one which has had along tradition of being broadcast live.
I usually admire the Grammys (and the AMAs) for showcasing country music to a wider audience. Yes, even if these artists are more poppy than trigger’s liking, country music needs to be heard by a wider audience. Heck, maybe it could serve as a gateway to actual country music. A true tribute to it would have been broadcasting a back to back repeat of more traditional artists (yes yes i know sturgill’s latest has not been the most country-iest) wining the top honors in their genre.
Stapleton’s album is still selling like hotcakes and yes I believe that awards have a huge role to play in it. Even though Traveller was an amazing album before the glitz of the awards, it only gained COMMERCIAL momentum after being awarded at the CMA’s (and then the grammys, AmC, billboards, etc followed suit). WHy? because it provided exposure. The same exposure sturgill would have benefited from.
February 22, 2017 @ 8:25 pm
Sturgill is vastly overrated, his new album is more folk than country. I love traditional country, but his new album wasn’t that. I don’t know why so many feel the need to say it is
February 13, 2017 @ 8:26 pm
…I want to go ahead and add that I’m not saying you’re being racist, Trigger. I don’t think you are. But I hope you understand why that headline is bringing in commentors who are (if I might paraphrase them) playing the “reverse racism” card.
This used to be a safe space…ugh. And I fuckin’ love Sturgill Simpson, way more than Beyonce!
February 13, 2017 @ 8:38 pm
Look everybody! It’s a snowflake having a meltdown!
February 13, 2017 @ 10:09 pm
Can we save the words “snowflake” and “meltdown” for people who burn albums because someone expressed a political opinion they disagree with?
February 14, 2017 @ 5:14 pm
It has been over a decade.
Let it go.
February 14, 2017 @ 9:42 pm
A bunch of snowflakes getting triggered and burning art in order to intimidate women for expressing their opinions?
I’m not going to forget that any time I see one of those idiotic moral and intellectual cowards try to make fun of how another person reacts to something.
February 14, 2017 @ 10:21 pm
You seem to be making a lot of assumptions. This isn’t the forum to discuss politics, but I love the Dixie Chicks and agreed with their comments about Bush and the Iraq War. As a libertarian-leaning independent voter (I’ve proudly voted third party the past two election cycles), I see many similarities between the “SJWs” and the “alt. right,” namely in the fact that they are driven by identity politics, they perpetually offended by something or another and their first instinct is always to ban whatever it is they don’t like. They’re both stuck in their echo chamber and seem to be offended by the very idea that somebody may not agree with them 100%. Whenever somebody deviates even slightly from their orthodoxy they become “problematic” or “cucks” or whatever and are considered persona non grata. This isn’t a healthy environment for rational discourse and even more so because too many people only call out one side and are driven by politics rather than principles.
The reason I left the comment above is that the concept of “safe spaces” seems very Orwellian to me. Trigger is certainly free to moderate this comments section any way he sees fit, but in the real world you’re sometimes going to deal with people who think differently from you and it’s my fear that we’re creating a generation that is ill-equipped to handle the real world. Admittedly, I could have phrased it better and I understand that I left myself open for you to draw the conclusions you did.
February 15, 2017 @ 7:31 am
Ahhh, fair enough, brother. I’m a Bill Weld guy, and I’m very much with you on the “people misuse the term ‘safe space’ as an excuse to avoid having their beliefs challenged” front.
It’s just that when I see the phrase “snowflake having a meltdown,” I assume (making an “ass” out of “u” and “me”) a certain perspective.
February 15, 2017 @ 9:59 am
Good comment, Jackson. I must admit, I had you pegged.
The thing is, SCM has never been a perfectly safe “rhetoric space” and that is no small amount of its charm for me. Now, I will say that it is a much safer such space than it was when I first started reading this site. I fell onto it by accident after the JTE meltdown in Indianapolis in 2010. Back before the comment rules. I stuck around because I liked Trigger’s writing and the back and forth in comments section was exciting and unlike what I used to (e.g. nodepression.com). Back then, it was more of a home for underground country fans and just about all of Americana/Alt Country artists that I liked were thought of as just so much NPR music (less so Trigger and more the readers, but to some extent, Trigger, too). I came to like a lot of the artists he was covering (e.g., Hank3, Hellbound Glory, Dale Watson, Wayne Hancock, James Hand, Ten Foot Polecats, Sturgill Simpson), but felt to some extent like a cultural outsider and I was circumspect about commenting. Now, the community is a much bigger tent with all different kinds of country fans. I’m not interested in all of the articles that Trigger writes, but since he’s so prolific, there’s plenty here for me to enjoy.
Here’s a thought I’ve had for a while. I personally think of Trigger as the Henry Rollins of country/roots music writers. I’m a big fan of Henry music, spoken word and writing. Every once in a while, though, he’ll say/write something that will make me go “Henry, was that really fucking necessary?” But like he once said in a spoken word performance I have on DVD: “You like me, because of all my inherent fucked-upness…… (shrugs) …. I’m OK.” Something like that.
February 15, 2017 @ 10:38 am
See Jack, you can attest, as I tried to say to Chris King, that Saving Country Music has done nothing but softened over the past 10 years, including the comment sections. The idea that at some point I turned to the dark side and started thumping the country music Bible is ridiculous. And you’re right, I do go off the rails sometimes, but that’s what happens with you write from passion, and have no underwriters or editors. It’s not always pretty, but you know it’s going to be passionate.
As for the racist comments some are complaining about, I challenge them myself when necessary, as I have done here, and others aren’t even worth acknowledging because it’s tantamount to feeding the trolls and does more harm than good. But short of dropping an ‘N’ bomb or making personal threats toward people, I am not going to delete them. I do not believe in safe spaces. I want my ideas challenged, I want other people’s ideas challenged, and I want people to see a wide variety of opinions, ugly, insightful, helpful, or hurtful. Because I believe this is the best environment for true understanding. While other sites are deleting comment section, I want to emphasize the one here even more. Somewhere there should be a debate hall of ideas in American roots music, and I am proud to host it.
February 13, 2017 @ 8:52 pm
But I hope you understand why that headline is bringing in commentors who are (if I might paraphrase them) playing the “reverse racism” card.
That I agree with. Also, others on the other side, are assuming that Trigger is playing that card. I think that this is a very thoughtful article, but the phrase “victim of bias” is a charged one that typically refers to a person belonging to a marginalized group in our society being discriminated against. And if Beyoncé isn’t the injured party, as the title suggests, then obvious it’s Sturgill. Reverse racism. Which, of course, isn’t the point that Trigger is making.
February 13, 2017 @ 7:19 pm
oh get fucked
February 13, 2017 @ 7:41 pm
He did not say a black girl gained from bias against a white man, he said a country star was biased against in favor of a pop star.
February 14, 2017 @ 12:04 pm
Let’s all agree that Beyoncé is a woman. Jesus.
February 13, 2017 @ 6:59 pm
Could it be that racism is in fact at play here. In a country that has a portion of the population angered over losing an election, who are championed by Hollywood and mainstream music, and have found it acceptable to blame white males for all of their problems, it is surprising that a music category they consider populated by white gun toting hillbillies is relegated to be awarded out of prime time?
Racism was on display as usual last night, but it was Beyoncé, Chance the Rapper, and the rest so called accepting stars that we’re exuding it.
February 13, 2017 @ 7:04 pm
No, you’re completely wrong.
February 13, 2017 @ 7:05 pm
I don’t think anyone was being racist to Beyonce, or Sturgill Simpson, or anyone. The Grammy Awards are an incredibly inclusive and open-minded organization in the true sense of the word, trying to do their best to represent all facets of American music, and when you have so much talent, and so few awards and slots, someone is going to feel like they’re getting screwed.
The reason that a distinction like Album of the Year holds so much weight is because only one person can win it per year. Everybody else in music, the thousands upon thousands of people who put their heart and souls into projects, lost. Most didn’t even get nominated. The vast majority weren’t even considered for nominations. Someone has to lose. That’s the nature of life, and awards. That doesn’t mean the system is rigged or racist. It doesn’t mean it’s NOT either. But the charge of racism is one that deserves to be taken so seriously, you can’t just throw it out there with no evidence just because your favorite artist lost.
February 13, 2017 @ 7:46 pm
I am not saying the Grammys organization is racist. I’m saying many of the artists are, and there have been companies and organizations who have caved to the pressures of celebrity complaints lately. Not necessarily because they agree with the issues, but do to fear of backlash. No one other than you and some us fans will complain about Sturgel being moved to another slot because he is white and a country singer. To point it out will probably lead to someone labeling you as racist.
Regardless of Beyoncés talent or lack of, she should win on merit. These people feel that she should win win because she is black. They feel she is owed something, because being black is enough.
I don’t want to come off as the angry white man here, but when the fingers of hatred and bigotry are pointed relentlessly one way, it is reasonable to point out the hypocrisy of the accusers.
February 13, 2017 @ 6:59 pm
While it makes for lively debate, this whole thing about who should have won Grammys and/or performed on the live telecast, and who shouldn’t, really gets far more heated and, in my opinion, nonsensical than it needs to, totally obscuring what the Grammys are supposed to be about, which is The Music. Fans (or is it “Stans”?) of Beyoncé need to chill out for a moment, and so does everyone else for that matter.
I think Linda Ronstadt had this right back in February 1977 when, after having won her second of what would be eleven Grammys overall in her career, was asked about the awards, and she replied: “Competition is for race horses, not artists”.
February 13, 2017 @ 7:01 pm
You can still watch him winning online, although I agree it was strange to lump Best Country Album in to the pre-telecast. He’s a wonderful artist, a true talent and it was sad not to be able to see him have his moment considering how the CMA’s and ACM’s locked him out – because they couldn’t handle the truth. I am so happy he has won for what was a great album. Country mainstream stand up and take notice!
February 13, 2017 @ 7:21 pm
The only way someone is going to see Sturgill accepting Best Country Album is by seeking it out online. The point of having the moment when you accept an award beamed to 26 MILLION people is for them to go, “Huh, this Sturgill Simpson guy just won for Best Country Album. I’ve never heard of it, or him. I think I’ll go to iTunes/Spotify/my local record store/ and purchase it.”
With no hyperbole, switching Sturgill Simpson from the main show to the pre-telecast could have cost him a million dollars, or more when you consider the long haul with touring, etc.
February 13, 2017 @ 8:56 pm
Sorry Trigger, I was only mentioning that you could see it online for any fans reading this that may want to watch it. Not because it makes up for them removing that award from the telecast or anything like that. I agree with you, it was sad of him to be robbed of that moment and all that comes with it. Here’s hoping this makes the CMA’s and ACM’s stand up and take some notice.
February 13, 2017 @ 7:03 pm
Get Room with sturgill already….
JK you know I love every sturgill post. I’m just waiting with popcorn for the trolls.
February 13, 2017 @ 7:09 pm
I don’t disagree that Sturgill got pushed for “lack of star power”, but are you fucking kidding me? It’s showBUSINESS. Drive the ratings. Just like you drive traffic to your site with crazy headlines.
Man, I used to love your writing, but you’ve gotten so “get off my lawn” lately that it’s getting a little ridiculous. Since you won’t debate ANYWHERE other than your forum, I’m here… Explain to me now – how a white man who beat the odds to win Country Album of the Year is a victim.
February 13, 2017 @ 7:28 pm
He literally gave you that exact explanation in his fucking article. It’s all very clearly explained, but I suppose he might’ve used a couple of 3+ syllable words and made it hard to understand.
February 13, 2017 @ 7:30 pm
With all due respect Chris I think you completely missed the spirit of this post.
I’m not acting surprised whatsoever that Sturgill Simpson got pushed. It makes perfect sense to me. I’m not even angry about it. What I said in the post, and I quote:
“Now don’t get me wrong, you don’t see Sturgill Simpson fans complaining en masse about this clear bias against him. There’s no anger toward Beyoncé or even the Grammy Awards. No, instead Sturgill Simpson fans are walking around Monday with a grin from ear to ear and a pep in their step, because pre-telecast or primetime, their guy won. And yeah, it sucks that the Grammy Awards shafted him like that, and isn’t it just like the industry that when the underdog and insurgent finally rises up through the crowd, they still treat them like a 2nd class citizen.
But instead of being bitter, Sturgill Simpson fans are grateful. They’re grateful he got an award and another nomination at all, as well as a primetime performance slot.”
I’m not sure what is so “get off my lawn” about this post, but you know this is Saving Country Music , right? I’ve been ranting and raving for 10 years, and over 3,800 articles. You think I’m just now getting angry? Go read some posts from 2009.
And the reason this is the only forum I will debate you in is because fighting back and forth in 140 characters on Twitter is disrespectful to the art of discourse. Twitter fuels rage and puts character limits on understanding. I’ve always had respect for you, your music, and your perspectives, and at some point you decided I was supposed to be your enemy, probably because I couldn’t get my point across in 140 characters. But I’ve never reciprocated the anger you’ve sent my way. I still have nothing but respect for you. We can disagree and still be civil, but Twitter usually gets in the way of that exercise.
February 13, 2017 @ 7:38 pm
This.
February 13, 2017 @ 7:39 pm
I think his point is less that Sturg IS a victim, and more that Beyonce is NOT one.
February 13, 2017 @ 7:40 pm
Umm, Chris, how about the fact that he was sidelined? That’s a patent observation. It’s indisputable. He wasn’t given the opportunity to accept his award, as in previous years, for country album of the year in front of the national and global audience. Those few minutes in the prime-time spotlight are precious to any artist, whether he or she admits it or not.
February 13, 2017 @ 7:47 pm
He did — in the article.
February 13, 2017 @ 7:55 pm
Because, as Trigger pointed out above, it prevents the millions of people who watched the event from seeing him win the award and getting a chance to discover that this artist and this album are something special. Do you think they would have moved the award if an established mainstream artist like Keith Urban had won it?
I guarantee, they would not have.
February 13, 2017 @ 8:12 pm
I actually see both points. I agree that it was wrong he got bumped but I would do the same thing if I was the producer. Bey and her fans are loyal and want to see every win of hers and more importantly how she looks now that she’s having twins. You know her photo was the most re-tweeted or most liked post on Instagram.
SS killed it on SNL, but then what?
If he did the same performance again – people wouldn’t have been as impressed or maybe called him tired. Who knows. He won, he doesn’t give a shit, so why should we.
February 13, 2017 @ 8:27 pm
It seems like he gave a little bit of a shit. At least that’s what I thought the “I guess the revolution won’t be televised” quip was about.
February 13, 2017 @ 7:11 pm
Do you suppose he only got the televised performance because of the success of his SNL performance
February 13, 2017 @ 7:15 pm
If you’re nominated for Album of the Year or New Artist on the Grammy Awards, you’re pretty much guaranteed a performance slot. I don;t think SNL had much to do with it.
February 14, 2017 @ 8:52 am
not true, Chainsmokers didn’t get a performance slot…and you’re def not guaranteed a solo slot (see Chris last yr). Don’t think it had anything to do with SNL though.
February 13, 2017 @ 7:32 pm
Wow, I disagree with this so strongly. The fact that they put Sturgill on for a full 4-minute performance is the far more meaningful and commercially important than an award. People create wars to try & get a performance slot. It, along with SNL, is the biggest ‘get’ in the business. And don’t get it twisted: this is only about TV & ratings. You want pure & unvarnished? Go enjoy the Bluegrass awards. If Dolly woulda shown up, they might have put Album category on-air. But the fact that McGraw had a presenter slot & Sturgill was performing, the category didn’t mean as much tv impact as an award with Keith, Carrie & Maren.
Where were classical, jazz, dance, comedy, spoken word, Latin & soundtrack categories?? Are they comic-phobic??! There’s no eyeballs to watch Best Classical Cnuctor. Get over the racial butthurt. For the few comments I’ve seen above, your readers/Sturgill fans DONT seem so grateful…they seem angry & seething.
And as for the white boys here feeling left out or marginalized, guess what: That’s how women, black & gay folks have felt forever. Stop your whining whiteboy rage.
Sturg had a powerful performance seen by 25 million folks. It was awesome. Even with their pants stunt, I bet 21 Pilots woulda traded their award slot with a performance slot in about 2 seconds.
February 13, 2017 @ 7:57 pm
Dane,
With all due respect, you and apparently many others are completely missing the point of this post. I was very expressive and loquacious about how I, and other Sturgill Simpson fans, are NOT unhappy about him getting moved off the primetime telecast. We are happy he was even nominated, let alone won anything, and was given a performance slot. I am through the roof about it. I am on cloud 9. But that doesn’t erase the fact that The Grammy Awards showed bias against Sturgill Simpson by going against their norms of broadcasting the Best Country Album award.
I’ll even go further for you, and I’m going to put it in bold just because there’s so many reading what they want to into this article as opposed to what I typed:
I am glad they moved Sturgill’s award off the telecast, so Beyonce would get an opportunity at the podium.
So you and others, feel free to disagree with me about specific points. But don’t act like I’m a pissed off white guy because another white guy didn’t get enough time in the spotlight. I’m happy for Sturgill, I’m happy for country music, and I’m happy Beyonce also got recognized. What I’m angry at is those who would tear asunder what happened last night because they feel like everything in society must now be politicized.
February 13, 2017 @ 8:57 pm
I appreciate your response. I really enjoy this site and so many of your music suggestions & overall purpose. You’ll continue to choose your subjects, but I do hope that there is an end in sight to the seemingly endless stream of Beyoncé-themed articles.
As for some of the responses here, they seem to illustrate my point far better than I did…..
February 13, 2017 @ 7:39 pm
1. Fuck your racism. 2. Fuck your ignorant assumption that white people have never been discriminated against (irish need not apply, anyone?). 3. This “white boy” thought Sturgill getting shafted was shitty, sure, but I was thrilled overall. Only thing I’m mad about is assholes like you throwing racist shit out there even though nobody else brought up race. Well, I’m not actually “mad” about that, more like “moderately annoyed”
February 13, 2017 @ 7:40 pm
Fuck!! That was supposed to be a reply to Dane, not the article-Trigger’s the shit!
February 13, 2017 @ 7:44 pm
Intelligent response Jim Bob
February 13, 2017 @ 8:13 pm
So Dane, because of the sins of our forefathers it is now time for white boys to be marginalized and feel the pain right? I love how inclusive you love everyone folks really are.
Agree with me and grant me privilege or you are a racist bigoted pos.
February 14, 2017 @ 6:09 am
I’ve always been attracted to the depth of Beyonce’s lyrics and her modesty.
February 13, 2017 @ 7:42 pm
On a side note, did you hear Bobby Bonehead today throwing the Sturge under the bus? He kept saying he invited the Sturge to his radio show multiple times, and Sturge wouldn’t accept. Bones went on to say Sturg believes radio won’t play him. To sum it up, Bobby Boner had a hurt butt because a Grammy winner refused to go on his show back in the day….repeatedly. This makes me love the Sturg even more. #ihateboobybonerkiller
February 14, 2017 @ 2:16 pm
FUCK BOBBY BONES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I CAN’T STAND THAT PRICK!
February 14, 2017 @ 2:33 pm
Exactly. Can you imagine Sturgill wanting to subject himself to an interview with that clown? Because I can’t. I’d say the same for Margo Price.
February 13, 2017 @ 8:00 pm
Just my 2 cents but I think both Chris and Trigger have good points. It makes sense that the Grammys wouldn’t televise Sturgill winning Country Album of the year because he’s not a big name and it’s all about ratings. But clearly regardless of race Sturgill got screwed by not getting the award on live television. As far as Beyonce maybe I’m naive but I don’t see her not winning as a race issue. She won multiple awards, got 9 nominations and got a solo performance slot. I don’t know how long her slot was but it seemed long as hell. Again, just my 2 cents.
February 13, 2017 @ 8:04 pm
I don’t disagree with Chris’s point of view. I totally think it was a business decision by the Grammy’s to bump Sturgill. I get it. Like I said in the article, none of Sturgill’s fans are making a big beef over this, and they’re not unhappy. They’re grateful. THAT is what I was trying to illustrate.
February 13, 2017 @ 8:10 pm
I kinda wanted Beyonce to win over Adele. Not because of racial diversity or whatever but because Beyonces album was far more ambitious and she took a lot more risks, lyrically and musically.
If Sturgill wasnt going to win then at least it wouldve gone to someone who tried to do something original and out of the box. Adele’s album is decent but is just another safe album filled with pretty songs about relationships.
February 13, 2017 @ 8:14 pm
I think Metallica and heavy music in general was shat. Fuck the Grammys. I still don’t even get why anyone cares about ANY awards show.
February 13, 2017 @ 8:23 pm
You’ve written a lot of great things about a lot of music I enjoy. I’ve also discovered a lot of great music on this site.
But this is getting ridiculous. Country album of the year got bumped for best country performance. Period. The industry has had a boner for Maren Morris for months now, and I have a hard time believing you don’t know that.
Why shoehorn in another Beyoncé article here? Why are you so concerned about her fans? You could just have easily written that Sturgill getting bumped was “The Empire (mainstream country) Strikes Back”
February 13, 2017 @ 8:31 pm
It wouldn’t have mattered to me if Sturgill walked away empty handed. He was able to show up and perform on prime time television, which I believe is far more important than the award itself. It gave him much needed exposure and hopefully gain new fans which translates to more album and ticket sales.
February 13, 2017 @ 9:05 pm
Saving Country Music, or as I like to call it, the Sturgill Simpson fan page.
Ok, I’m mostly joking, but really????
I am kind of over this “Sturgill and the Grammys” narrative. Think it’s time for me to take another break from SCM. I will be back….
February 13, 2017 @ 11:16 pm
I stayed up last night until 2:30 finishing my review of Sunny Sweeny’s “Bottle By My Bed” just so folks could wake up Monday morning and have a non-Grammy alternative to read. This is not Taste of Country. I do not have 20 writers on staff. I write about the most important and most compelling topics of the day, and always try to offer alternatives. I’m doing the best I can. The Sturgill, Grammy, and Beyonce posts will stop when they stop being the most important things happening in music. Which they will. In July, everyone will be complaining about all the Jason Isbell posts, and I won’t have mentioned Sturgill for three months. It’s called the news cycle and it’s not under my control.
February 14, 2017 @ 6:30 am
And I made a mental note to go download the song. Dammit, Trigger, don’t listen to me. I was in a shit mood yesterday anyways. I don’t agree with half of what you say and I still read??? Obviously I like the content. I listen to mainstream country anyways, who cares what I think haha
February 13, 2017 @ 9:11 pm
I haven’t missed the point of the article. I’m an intelligent person & I think about what I post before I post it… whether it’s 140 characters or more, or less…
That said, my “get of my lawn” statement isn’t necessarily about this particular post. It’s about the whole tone this blog has taken on. You want country music to stand above all else – AND (as far as I can tell), you’d prefer it to remain static. That is not progress, and I disagree with that.
Sturgill performed live on-air. He didn’t get his award on-air. Big deal. He beat the odds either way. I’m EXTREMELY thrilled that he won Country Album of the Year. I really and truly am. He deserved it. But I imagine more people would be inclined to look up Simpson after a performance airing than after an acceptance speech. To be honest – with as brightly as some of these huge stars shine these days – he should be thanking his luck constellations that he even got a nom. His album was good. But it wasn’t great. It was strong, but it wasn’t life changing. It wasn’t even as good as Metamodern (IMO).
You make your bones off getting people riled up. I get that. I bit. I don’t hate you. I don’t think we’re enemies. I would just like you to take a little more of a measured stance every now and then. I don’t care how many articles you’ve written or how many years you’ve been writing them…
Any artist will tell you that you’re only good as your last product. And your latest product has been self-serving exercises in egotistic narcissism. You’re not the end-all-be-all of country or Americana critique.. therefore, everyone who disagrees with you isn’t wrong. It’s this tone that you’ve taken on as a faux-gatekeeper of authenticity that drives me up the walls.
February 13, 2017 @ 10:04 pm
There’s a real simple solution to this problem you have, stop reading the fucking blog! If I don’t like your music, I simply turn it off. It’s not that hard. He is free to write whatever the hell wants.
February 13, 2017 @ 10:11 pm
I guess if Trigger doesn’t like Beyonce, he should quit using her as clickbait in his blog. Yeh?
February 13, 2017 @ 11:11 pm
Just because you only click on my blogs that mention Beyonce doesn’t make it clickbait Chris, it just makes you a Beyonce fan. The job of a title is to lure people to an article. Remember earlier when you were chiding me for not responding to your comments quick enough? It was because I was reading about how Lone Star Music could be shutting down. If you think I’m getting rich here you’re sorely mistaken. How about the article I posted a few days ago about how Mountain Stage might be shutting down. Was that click bait? Things like Lone Star Music, Mountain Stage, and Saving Country Music (not that I’m on that level, necessarily) don’t really exist anymore. They’re all dying left and right. How much money did you pay to read this article? Yet I’ll sit here and respond to your concerns one by one. Click bait my ass, but sue me if I post things folks are compelled to read.
February 14, 2017 @ 5:57 am
Find anywhere in my posts that I said you were getting rich.
February 13, 2017 @ 10:09 pm
“You want country music to stand above all else”
Chris, did you notice the name of this website?
“…my “get of my lawn” statement isn’t necessarily about this particular post. It’s about the whole tone this blog has taken on. You want country music to stand above all else – AND (as far as I can tell), you’d prefer it to remain static. That is not progress, and I disagree with that.”
Bullshit. I have said on dozens of occasions that country music must evolve. I just don’t think that leaning on technology or getting lazy in lyricism, or replacing melody with rhythm is “evolution.”
See, this gets right at the heart of the moment that you decided all of a sudden that you hated me. I can remember it like it was yesterday. You decided to make a decidedly non country album with some electronic treatments, decided I would hate it because I’m Mr. stick-in-the-mud country guy, and immediately decided we were adversaries. But the truth is, you have no idea what kind of music I listen to, or what I like outside of this website. Maybe I grew up listening to NIN and Lords of Acid, have been obsessed with the Canadian indie pop band Alvvays for the last month, and my favorite band of all time is The Grateful Dead.
The idea that this site at some point changed where I became more insular, and more dug in on traditional country is madness. This site has done nothing but soften over the last decade. And if you don’t believe me, talk to the THOUSANDS of former readers who now believe I suck Music Row’s ass because I write positive reviews for Tim McGraw. Even the Sturgill Simpson record isn’t country. Holy shit it has horns. So where does that fit in your theory?
“You’re not the end-all-be-all of country or Americana critique.. therefore, everyone who disagrees with you isn’t wrong. It’s this tone that you’ve taken on as a faux-gatekeeper of authenticity that drives me up the walls.”
Never said I was. Perhaps you should read more articles that don’t have the name “Beyonce” in them. Because that’s the only time I hear from you. Then maybe you will have a more diverse perspective on the output of Saving Country Music. Click on the “Home” page. Go read the review I wrote for Sunny Sweeney this morning. I’ve never said I was perfect, but I’m far from the narcissistic prick you’re making me out to be. I’m just a passionate guy who loves to share my opinions, no matter how they’re taken, or what shit they stir up.
February 14, 2017 @ 7:35 am
It’s amazing how people can read the same article or series of articles/posts and end up with opposite conclusions. Chris says ‘I would just like you to take a little more of a measured stance every now and then’. I usually feel that you’re pieces are extremely measured with the exception of the rants which aren’t at all meant to be measured. He says ‘you’d prefer it to remain static’. Where the hell did he come up with that? I’ve read a million times where you say music can evolve, let’s just not abandon the roots. He says you think people who disagree with you are wrong. I see you do more than anyone else to give everyone a platform to discuss their opinions and have never seen you call out anybody for being wrong without some kind of proof to back it up. You certainly don’t call out others opinions for being wrong. Then he goes off on all this narcissism B.S…crazy!
Chris’ posts, along with many others here, seem pretty ridiculous.
February 14, 2017 @ 10:14 am
The reason the posts of Chris King and others appear to show a very slanted and narrow view of Saving Country Music is because that’s all these readers are seeing. Chris King only comes here when I post an article about Beyonce. That’s why he thinks it’s “click bait,” because it’s click bait for him. That’s why he thinks I’m obsessed with her, because that’s all he sees that I post. The reason others are sticking up for him is because he has a dedicated Twitter following and he directed them here, prefaced by his opinions on this site, and this article. Folks who come here on a daily basis know that Saving Country Music broaches a wide variety of topics, always tries to stay more positive than negative, is open and receptive to all types of music, including from the mainstream and other genres, and despite warts every once in a while, tries to be fair, honest, and accurate.
February 14, 2017 @ 12:25 pm
I checked out his website and from just poking around a tiny bit, his music seems respectable and he comes off as a decent guy. Since he claims to make intelligent posts, i kind of figured his attitude was more from misinformation due to being exposed to select articles. It sucks when people attack each other when they should be on the same side. I’m sure I’ve done it in the past myself.
February 14, 2017 @ 12:57 pm
Sorry for being a wart on your site. Also sorry for driving some folks to the conversation at hand.
I’ll make sure to direct my twitter “following” away from here, seeing as how you’re basically saying the only reason anyone is disagreeing with you is because I brought them here.
I didn’t take you for someone who wanted their existence online to reside in an ech chamber. Apologies.
February 14, 2017 @ 1:32 pm
Chris,
I welcome dissenting comments and viewpoints here, that’s why I invited you. Not just because I wanted to see your comments, but I wanted everyone else to see them as well. At the same time, I have a right to retort. The only reason I brought up the Twitter stuff was to explain to others who were asking why it seemed like what was being debated was not what was expressed in the article itself.
February 14, 2017 @ 2:35 pm
That’s just it – what was being debated is what was expressed in your article. I wouldn’t debate you on anything that you didn’t say. Everything I quoted you on earlier was in your article, from your fingertips. Me quoting your article while discussing your article was never “taking anything out of context” – it’s called citing the source.
I honestly can’t tell if you value differing opinions or not. Any time someone has one, your retort is “that’s not what the article was getting at – obviously you didn’t read it.” And that’s not a way of welcoming differing opinions – that’s a way of saying someone is wrong.not. I come to your site way more than you probably think I do. I only comment at you when I firmly disagree with you. And I firmly disagree with you.
I do not think, as you state, that you’re happy that Sturgill’s acceptance speech wasn’t televised. I think you clearly see it as a slight to Sturgill & the community you support.
I just don’t understand the Beyonce-centric nature of the original post. If you really want to get down to Saving Country Music, why aren’t you slamming Carrie & Keith’s performance? Or Maren Morris stealing some of that valuable airtime (I know you lightly mentioned that one – but in the realm of country music, that’s the bigger story)? Candy-coated sugarpop country stole airtime away from Sturgill. That’s the story. For god’s sake, man, I’m pretty sure (correct me if I’m wrong) that I’ve seen you praise Maddie & Tae on here. Seriously.
February 14, 2017 @ 3:09 pm
He never said he was happy that Sturgill’s speech wasn’t televised.
He said that he was happy about last night because Sturgill won in his genre, even though he wasn’t televised, so it’s especially silly for anyone to be angry and claim that an artist who did get their award televised was somehow “slighted” because she didn’t win all of the awards in every category.
Also, Maddie and Tae have a completely different (and far more traditional) sound than Maren Morris. Implying that the two acts’ music is in any way similar (beyond being produced pretty 20-somethings) is silly.
February 13, 2017 @ 9:21 pm
Sturgill is da man! So forgive me if sometimes I feel a little crazy, but god damn sometime crazy is how I fell!
February 13, 2017 @ 9:22 pm
Oops, crazy is how I feel!
February 13, 2017 @ 9:25 pm
“Was Beyoncé’s 2nd place finish to Adele because of race-based reasons since Adele is a white performer, and thus finds more reception among a population that wants their music to be safe, and wants their performers to look like them? Perhaps that’s the case, but that is a hard thing to quantify.” From some of the things I read online I am pretty sure some felt race had a part in Adele winning. Unfortunately it seems like being angry, protesting, boycotting etc is a way of life nowadays. Had a skinny white female singer won there might have been people saying it was because Adele is on the thick side (not that there was one unless you count Justin Bieber). Had a male won someone out there would have complained because men have won the award more than women. That being said, Feb 16 Sturgil tickets go on sale for the Greek theater….
February 13, 2017 @ 9:27 pm
The system isn’t rigged, that’s just the system. It is what it is. Adele is by far better than Beyonce, imo. Sturgill really didn t even deserve best country album, but the guys who did, Justin wells or Luke Bell, don’t have the star power to get noticed. Sturgill would deserve best album of Adele wasn’t there. His album was basically without genre, and should not represent country music to the majority. Dawn in the Distance was just about as good as metamodern sounds, maybe not production wise, but substance wise.
Beyonce is just a performer, and if ya believe that dude on youtube, she is illuminati and used that one chick from destinys child as a blood sacrifice. Hahaha hahaha.
February 13, 2017 @ 9:27 pm
FURTHERMORE – WHY ISN’T ANYONE BITCHING ABOUT MAREN MORRIS ACCEPTING HER AWARD ON-AIR & STEALING AIRTIME FROM STURGILL? Ohhhhhhhh… It’s because she’s country and white, and trotting around in go-go boots. I get it.
February 13, 2017 @ 9:37 pm
*Crickets*
February 13, 2017 @ 9:55 pm
I have 10 minutes to respond to you after you disappear for two hours, and I’m the one being called a narcissist?
February 13, 2017 @ 9:52 pm
Chris,
If you had read the article, which you clearly didn’t, then you would have seen that I mentioned that Maren Morris’s Best Country Solo Performance is what the Grammy’s used to represent country in the telecast instead of Best Country Album
And again, I said this in the article and it was the very foundation of it, then I quoted it in a response to you already, and other people responded to you as well, NOBODY IS BITCHING. Sturgill Simpson fans are happy. That’s the whole point of this article.
February 14, 2017 @ 7:43 am
Why are you arguing with whoever the he’ll Chris king is? He’s a nobody, isnt significant to country music or music in general. The article was fine, you were never out of line, and you don’t have to justify yourself to this dipshit. You don’t have to apologize because someone isn’t intelligent enough to understand something you write. It’s pretty simple, Sturgill doesn’t get as much press as his talent warrants. This guy trigger tries to balance this out, not just for Sturgill but literally too many artist to name. SCM CAM is basically a public service for the country music community, and it’s one thing to disagree with an opinion (preferably respectfully) but to attack an institution that does so much for music. Fuck Chris King in the neck, he is an ignorant non songwriter.
February 14, 2017 @ 9:47 am
Sorry Jacob, I’ve gotta correct you.
I’m not a non songwriter. I write songs. And I get paid for it sometimes. So, technically, I’m a songwriter.
February 14, 2017 @ 10:18 am
Oh, yes, I’ve fact checked that and your right you are “technically” a songwriter……
Actually that’s a bit of sarcasm, your actually a pretty decent songwriter. I’ve been in your shoes, attacking Kyle and SCM because I didn’t agree with something. But I took a step back and put some thought into it: I’ve read a shit ton ofarticles from SCM, some i basically hated, but after reading I know where triggers heart is at, it’s in country music it’s for the artists. He maybe a hypocrite every once in a while, but that’s human nature. At its core SCM is a champion for the value of truth and passion in music also for the underdog of the industry, which would possibly pertain to you but you come off as a douchbag. I don’t care if you start writing as good as Jason isbell, (In your dreams) I’ll never buy your records or that of any artist that collaborates with you. Anyone who is a dumb enough asshole to go to one of the places where his fans and multitudes of potential fans reside and tell them ” I, Chris King, am by far superior to you. Your opinion matters not, there is only Chris King’s perspective. Read, ha, reading is for interiors creatures like you. I decide what this article is about “. I don’t speak your language well, but that was the gist of all you said.
February 14, 2017 @ 12:53 pm
I’d like you to know that I honestly don’t care if you never buy my records. I don’t think my opinion is superior to anyone else’s. I do, however, feel that it is definitely equally as valuable as anyone else’s.
I’m not worried about offending anyone, including “potential” fans. I do what I do. I write songs. I cut records. I play shows when I want to. I’m not walking around on eggshells trying to make sure I can appease as many people as possible so they’ll buy my art. I’m who I am. My personality reflects that & my art reflects that.
Trigger has been doing this plenty long & if he had thin skin, he’d be out. I know where he comes from & im 100% free to come where I come from. If he has an opinion, he says it. Same with me. So I’m not sure what your point is, I guess.
February 13, 2017 @ 9:57 pm
Btw – Grammys are a joke and have zero merit in measuring the quality or songwriting of music. Stop giving a shit.
February 13, 2017 @ 10:01 pm
I READ THE ARICLE, KYLE. Twice. If the whole point of the article is “Sturgill fans are happy” then WHY IS THE TITLE OF YOUR ARTICLE “It Wasn’t Beyonce That Was The Victim of Bias at the 2017 Grammy Awards”? And why is Beyonce’s picture the header?
If nobody’s bitching, why are you bitching that it wasn’t Beyonce who was the victim – it was Sturgill?
February 13, 2017 @ 10:17 pm
A) Do you know how to use a reply button? You click on the word “reply.”
B) …he’s not bitching.
He’s trying (with impressive patience) to explain to you that the Grammys did their level best to give Beyonce as much of a platform as possible, at the direct expense of an artist who needs the help more than she does…and fans of that artist don’t care, because they’re happy he got an award.
February 13, 2017 @ 10:23 pm
Yes. I know how to use the reply button “Cool Lester Smooth”.
Thank you.
February 13, 2017 @ 10:25 pm
Just making sure. Maybe you were too busy hyperventilating with righteous (albeit misaimed) fury to use that button to reply to the comment of Trigger’s that you were addressing?
February 13, 2017 @ 10:22 pm
Just relax, dude.
This comment section always has its fair share of “What about white history month” people who get triggered when people make fun of them, but Trigger’s not in that camp, and neither is this article.
They might think it is, but that’s because they’re bad at reading.
February 13, 2017 @ 10:28 pm
I’m pretty relaxed. I’m just confused as to why IF the whole article – as Kyle states it – is to highlight how happy Sturgill fans are… Why he used a Beyonce-themed headline & a Beyonce header – which claimed, in essence, that “Beyonce wasn’t short-changed… Sturgill was.”
Can anyone answer me that?
February 13, 2017 @ 10:35 pm
Because the internet is currently abuzz with “think”-pieces about how the Grammys are broken/racist/yada yada yada, because Beyonce “only” won two of them last night, and Adele’s fucking fantastic album beat hers out for AotY.
The article argues that:
A) Far from slighting Beyonce, the Grammys went well out of their way to feature her as much as possible.
B) Even if Beyonce had been slighted, as Sturgill Simpson was, this would still be an absurd reaction to your favorite artist winning two Grammys.
February 13, 2017 @ 10:11 pm
I mean… Man, read your comment section. Do you see a pattern? Even your fans think you’re a little overboard.
February 13, 2017 @ 10:12 pm
Saying Beyonce deserved an Album of the Year award in her career is like saying Drew Brees deserved a MVP award in his career. He had some MVP-caliber seasons but was always overshadowed by guys like Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers. Just like Beyonce, she puts out her best work and Taylor Swift or Adele sell a billion albums that year. Only one person can win the award every year. It’s impossible to give it to every worthy candidate.
February 13, 2017 @ 10:15 pm
I don’t disagree with that & Trigger touches on that.
February 13, 2017 @ 10:25 pm
Exactly Nate. Good point.
February 13, 2017 @ 10:28 pm
Yup. This really isn’t a “The Heist beating GKMC” situation. 25 is absolute fire.
February 14, 2017 @ 9:02 am
Their are two somewhat separate but related issues going on:
1) is did Beyonce deserve a grammy, the grammy’s have never really been about sales (see Sturgill wining Country this year, & being nominated for album, and who else was nominated in country vs who wasn’t), so for me that doesn’t hold a lot of water, but I get why Adele won the AOTY.
2) are the grammy’s biased against music type? And the argument for that is pretty overwhelming, and not entirely about race, everyone was pretty up in arms about Steely Dan beating out Emminem, but when an urban/hip hop album has never on AOTY, tongues are going to wag.
February 14, 2017 @ 1:14 am
Let’s get back to country music, this is getting boring and tedious.
Any cool new albums coming out soon trigger?
February 14, 2017 @ 10:18 am
Jason Isbell has two new albums coming out soon. Nikki Lane on Friday.
February 14, 2017 @ 1:29 am
“But the simple fact is that during the specific calendar cycle leading up to the 2017 Grammy Awards, Adele’s impact was greater. It was greater on sales, on critical acclaim, and across a wider swath of music listeners than Beyoncé’s was, easily certified by sales and other metrics. This is not saying that numbers should be the only factor in who wins awards, but they can help justify outcomes when you’re looking for bias”.
I dont know where you got the idea that Adeles album had greater critical acclaim than Beyonces. From what ive read, reviews for 25 were quite mixed when it came out. Not so much with Lemonade which was highly praised by most critics.
You can say Adele sold more and appeals to a wider audience but that hasnt stopped the grammys awarding the Aoty to less well known and more obscure artists in the past (Arcade fire, for example). Sales, mass appeal and critical acclaim isnt enough of a justification in this case. The problem with the Aoty and the grammys in general is that theres no clear consistent criteria for these awards. So people are left to their own imaginations on why someone wins over another person. Unless they get a bit more transparent with the voting system, accusations of bias are just always going to be there.
February 14, 2017 @ 10:22 am
Totally agree that sales and other metrics shouldn’t be the only factor in who gets Album of the Year, and I broached that specifically in the article.
As I said:
” This is not saying that numbers should be the only factor in who wins awards, but they can help justify outcomes when you’re looking for bias.”
In other words, I “Lemonade” had also sold significantly more than “25,” (which it didn’t, then this could be used as a metric to say one album had more appeal than another. It’s not the only factor, but it is one Adele and the Grammys can point to, and Beyonce fans can’t.
February 14, 2017 @ 3:31 pm
My point was that even if the grammys and Adele fans point to her sales as justification for her win, its not enough to prove the absence of bias.
Beyonce lost to Beck for Aoty a few years ago, even though she sold more. So it wont be a satisfying reason for Beyonce fans.
February 14, 2017 @ 3:52 pm
And Beyonce will probably win a Grammy over someone more deserving in a few years, just like Beck did that year!
Paying it forward.
February 14, 2017 @ 5:47 pm
Yeah, it’s not enough to disprove bias, but it is a factor. That’s all I’m saying.
February 14, 2017 @ 6:41 am
“I’ll even go further for you, and I’m going to put it in bold just because there’s so many reading what they want to into this article as opposed to what I typed:
I am glad they moved Sturgill’s award off the telecast, so Beyonce would get an opportunity at the podium.”
Trigger, here’s my problem. What you’ve said in response to people disagreeing with your article is not the same as the apparent tone you took in the actual article. You’re accusing people of “reading into” what you wrote instead of what you actually typed…
Those are your words. Here are some more of your words:
“But there actually was an artist that was so clearly a victim of systemic bias and rigging of the system at the hands of the 2017 Grammy Awards, it’s almost shocking. And nobody is talking about it. In fact Beyoncé was one of the very reasons this particular artist got marginalized.
That artist was Sturgill Simpson.”
“Sure, it’s great to get some recognition from your peers. It’s great to stand at center stage and have a massive crowd clap your adulation while millions watch on. Beyoncé got that opportunity Sunday evening. Sturgill Simpson didn’t.”
“The difference between the pre-telecast and the primtime show is not just symbolic. To have your album or song singled out and recognized in front of the largest assembled music audience every year worldwide—in the case of the 2017 Grammy Awards, 26 million people—is not just an incredible honor, it results in a massive sales spike that can mean thousands, even millions of dollars for an artist when factoring in downloads, streams, physical sales, endorsements, and touring increases. And out of the norm, and out of custom—which is what you go looking for when trying to find evidence of bias—Sturgill Simpson was refused that primetime opportunity by the Grammy Awards despite his landmark win. And why? So that Beyoncé could have her moment on camera instead. If anything, this shows bias for Beyoncé by the Grammy Awards.”
Those are clips from your article, not to mention (again) the title of the article & the photo of Beyonce at the top of the article.
Can you mesh all that with this?
“I’ll even go further for you, and I’m going to put it in bold just because there’s so many reading what they want to into this article as opposed to what I typed:
I am glad they moved Sturgill’s award off the telecast, so Beyonce would get an opportunity at the podium.”
February 14, 2017 @ 6:49 am
Also, earlier (somewhere in all of this) you said I only come here because I’m a Beyonce fan.
I am a Beyonce fan because Beyonce makes great art. I am a Sturgill Simpson fan because Sturgill Simpson makes great art. I’m a fan of art. In any form.
I came here because I think this article is off-base & because you won’t discuss things on Twitter for all to see – I get your reasoning on that – but disagree. But that’s why I’m here. Not because I’m a member of Beyonce’s beehive.
February 14, 2017 @ 7:34 am
I agree with you, Chris. The headline of this post does not jive with large parts of the article, and neither do some of Trigger’s follow-up comments. It is just very problematic to claim Sturgill was a victim of “bias” (his word) because his award wasn’t presented on air, even though he got a performance slot (the likely truth is, he lost that time not to Beyonce, but to Maren Morris).
I don’t even know that I’d call myself a Beyonce fan (I appreciate her talent), but, as someone above noted, there are likely underlying reasons why Adele won over her, reasons that can be traced to race. Am I “playing the race card” by acknowledging that?
February 14, 2017 @ 8:29 am
As someone who listens to enough hip hop to be pissed that “and the Anonymous Nobody” got slighted in favor of shallow pap like Coloring Book, and can have a serious discussion about the relative merits of Tetsuo and Youth and To Pimp a Butterfly as expressions of what it means to be a black man in modern America:
Adele won because 25 featured better writing and (much) better singing than Lemonade.
February 14, 2017 @ 8:29 am
However, Chris King seems to be saying that the ARTICLE doesn’t jive with Trigger’s comments. I have no problem with the parts of the articles that he includes in his comment. I think there may well have been some bias againt Sturgill involved that resulted in the Best Country Album awarding being moved to the pre-telecast program. Not reverse racism, but the familiar bias against the outsider. Both Beyoncé and Maren Morris qualify as insiders with respect to my music world. I agree with you that the headline is problematic for reasons I’ve already stated. It’s my opinion that Trigger sometimes shoots himself in the foot with these provocative titles (e.g., “I am not a Misogynist”).
February 14, 2017 @ 9:21 am
I guess my issue is that “bias” is a charged word when talking about a black performer who just put out a album that was considered a statement on race; the definition of “bias” specifically uses the term “prejudice.” Maybe it is a technically correct usage. I just wouldn’t use the term to describe a relative unknown not getting to accept an award in primetime.
I would agree with Chris that the article doesn’t jive with his later comments, specifically this one:
>>“I’ll even go further for you, and I’m going to put it in bold just because there’s so many reading what they want to into this article as opposed to what I typed: I am glad they moved Sturgill’s award off the telecast, so Beyonce would get an opportunity at the podium.”<<
That's not what headline or article said; it might be Trigger's underlying opinion, but to say it's "what I typed" is insulting to the readers.
February 14, 2017 @ 9:26 am
I’m not so sure, Chad. What about this from the article?
That said, I do believe that in Beyoncé’s career, she probably has deserved to win Album of the Year at least once, and it’s uncanny, even maybe a little unfair, that she hasn’t.
We are in agreement with respect to the headline. See my reply to one of your comments yesterday.
February 14, 2017 @ 8:32 am
Also, there is clear bias from the Grammys in favor of commercially successful pop artists. I’m not sure how that’s at question, here.
February 14, 2017 @ 7:04 am
This is getting old. Give it up. Please.
February 14, 2017 @ 7:06 am
Thank you for your valuable input.
February 14, 2017 @ 7:39 am
Beyonce makes art????? Wtf’s wrong with you. It’s music for teenage girls. It wil be forgotten about in 20 years time. You sound rather sad, like you have a beyonce fetish. Get over it, and grow up dude!
February 14, 2017 @ 9:50 am
HAHAHAHAHA. You wouldn’t know art if it stabbed you.
February 14, 2017 @ 7:41 am
Ditto on yours!
February 14, 2017 @ 8:25 am
Certainly not as valuable as all your pontifications, Chris. But, still getting old. And, tired. Your 15 minutes of relevance is up.
February 14, 2017 @ 7:57 am
Let’s re-title this thread “Trigger and The Tedious Scolds.”
February 14, 2017 @ 8:34 am
It’s quite possible to understand that Beyonce got featured over someone, who needed the additional exposure more, because she’s music royalty…and to be happy that they gave her that forum.
Those are not conflicting statements.
February 14, 2017 @ 9:49 am
Gosh, this guy is an idiot. I bet you had to read it twice, because reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit. I know you think it’s impossible to illustrate conflicting points in one article, but sometimes things aren’t as simple as your 140 characters at a time brain can process. While he was being mildly objective and conceded every point you really were bitching about in the first place, you managed to misconstrue all this for your need for attention. A huge chunk of your tweets are all combative, you don’t actually stand for anything you just like to argue.
February 14, 2017 @ 12:43 pm
Thank you for your insults. I wear them as a badge of honor. Also thank you for visiting my twitter page. Appreciate it!
February 14, 2017 @ 10:30 am
Chris,
For serious man, just get over the title. It’s just a title. That’s all it is. And I stand behind it.
And screw me for illustrating BOTH sides of the argument with my discussion. That’s called rhetoric, and this is something that you could learn from which is trying to see both sides of an argument to strengthen your position. And the fact that you’re selecting quotes out of context once again validates that you’re only seeing what you want to see in this article, as opposed to what is actually here.
I’m not saying there isn’t racism in the Grammy system. I’m just saying that with the seriousness racism charges should hold, I’m not seeing any evidence of it here in regards to Beyonce, I’m seeing the opposite.
February 14, 2017 @ 11:53 am
Sorry, but selecting quotes from of an article that is being discussed isn’t taking anything out of context.
February 14, 2017 @ 3:12 pm
It is when you take those quotes out of context from the rest of the article, haha.
February 14, 2017 @ 7:39 am
That’s the way it goes
Life ain’t fair and the world is mean
😉
February 14, 2017 @ 8:20 am
Good job as usual Trigger for expressing YOUR opinion on YOUR website which seems to escape some peoples logic especially when their screen name is a link to their website…LOL
February 14, 2017 @ 8:48 am
What’s a honky gotta do around here to get a little recognition
A little levity. 😉
February 14, 2017 @ 9:03 am
I stand to disagree, the country category televised from my years of watching isn’t fixed, in fact apart from the big 4 categories nothing is fixed…
February 14, 2017 @ 10:36 am
We all know why Best Country Album was moved off the telecast after having been on it the last decade, and 90% of the time since being re-instituted by the Grammy Awards in 1995. I don’t do the whole “unnamed sources” deal, but I have spoken to people in the industry about this matter.
February 14, 2017 @ 9:09 am
Grammy’s pretty consistently switch up what gets presented live. They always hand out one country award live though, which is frankly more then most genre’s get. Yes lately it’s been Country album & in that sense Sturgill got screwed, but switching up the category is in line with what’s happened in rock, rap, pop, etc, where different categories get presented in different years.
I’d argue that what Sturgill got, a full solo performance slot, is better than what Chris got last year, so this article seems pretty pointless, I don’t really think Sturgill got hosed, and it definitely had nothing to do with Beyonce. Yes they put Urban album into the telecast for her, but that has nothing to do with why country album was taken out.
February 14, 2017 @ 11:19 am
I thought that was Stapleton’s call. He could either head up the tribute for B.B. King or get a solo spot and he chose the former.
February 14, 2017 @ 4:04 pm
I think he’d choose to put over a legend instead of himself when given such a choice every time. As a Chris Stapleton fan, I don’t think he should have been asked to make such a choice, though. None of the other AOTY candidates were buried in a three-way tribute to someone he had never met from another genre. I’m sure he must’ve felt very honored to be entrusted to honor a worthy legend, but I do think he should have been given the same amount of spotlight that all other AOTY candidates got. Sam Hunt – Carrie Underwood got a huge block of time at that same show.
February 15, 2017 @ 7:38 am
Yeah, you’re right. I remember watching the Sam Hunt/Carrie Underwood adult contemporary duet and feeling frustrated that this was how country music would be represented musically at the Grammys, when Chris Stapleton could have knocked veryone’s socks off. However, as a long time blues fan and B.B. fan in particular, I was happy that the Grammys “allowed” for a quality tribute to him to be performed (too bad something similar couldn’t be done for Merle Haggard. Lord knows we could have done without that particular Bee Gees tribute). Chris, Bonnie and Gary Clark Jr. did a real nice job, I thought.
February 14, 2017 @ 10:37 am
Chris King
February 14, 2017 @ 9:50 am
HAHAHAHAHA. You wouldn’t know art if it stabbed you.
………….
Art is highly subjective thus we have; one man’s trash is another man’s treasure.
February 14, 2017 @ 11:35 am
Let me put this as simply as I possibly can:
In regards to the 2017 Grammy Awards, Beyonce received a historic 7 nominations (correction, 9)—more than any other artist. Those 9 nominations spanned across 4 separate genres—something that has never happened in the 59-year history of the Grammy Awards. Out of those nominations, Beyonce won two awards: Best Video and Best Urban Contemporary Album. Beyonce was given the longest performance slot by any single artist on the 2017 Grammy Awards telecast. The Grammy Awards moved handing out Best Urban Contemporary Album from the pre-telecast to the primetime broadcast to facilitate Beyonce getting more face time, and allowing her the opportunity to speak at the podium. Beyonce was seated on the first row, and at center stage all night. Simply put Beyonce was the centerpiece of the 2017 Grammy Awards.
To levy charges of systemic bias or racism against the Grammy Awards for how they treated Beyonce is diseased, irresponsible, and a gross aberration of the truth. It is also irresponsible to the weight that charges of bias and racism should hold, and insulting to the systemic racism minorities, communities, organizations, students, people of power, elected officials, and ordinary individuals have to sustain on a daily basis.
The Grammy Awards are far from perfect. But there is nothing but evidence that they are an inclusive organization that bent over backwards to respect the artistic contributions of Beyonce. And anyone, regardless of the prestige their particular periodical or position in society bestows them, that asserts otherwise, is being irresponsible, and is purposely misinforming the public due to fashionable outcry instead of fairly presenting the facts in a non-bias manner.
February 14, 2017 @ 3:01 pm
Beyoncé received 9 nominations not 7…
February 14, 2017 @ 5:48 pm
I guess I lost count.
February 14, 2017 @ 12:03 pm
Beyonce , Sturgill, Adele …..still more country than Sam Hunt
February 14, 2017 @ 12:17 pm
I am sorry Trigger but I have to disagree. Just because a person is nominated in a category doesn’t mean that the grammy’s is inclusive. A female black singer has not won album of the year since 1999 and for the past nine years the grammy has gone to white acts. Within these years there have been many albums by black acts that have been critically acclaimed such as Frank Ocean, Kendrick Lamar and Beyonce (who has lost three times). Saying this, it clearly isn’t just Beyonce who is experiencing this bias, many different acts are. Adele’s album may have out sold Beyonce’s but Lemonade had a huge impact on black culture, feminism and empowerment through its use of political and social messages. It spoke directly to a subculture which has now been left marginalized by an institution that doesn’t seem to honor black artists.There is no wonder that people have taken offense to the outcome of the grammys. Adele is an extremely talented vocalist and songwriter (IMO she most definitely deserved her pop vocal award and song of the year) but to have ignored Lemonade and its impact was a huge mistake for the grammys and it is not surprising that it is having accusations of racisim leveled against it. However, this is just my opinion and I totally respect yours Trigger.
February 14, 2017 @ 1:27 pm
Dom,
This is a fair point. As I touched on briefly in the article, I am not saying that there isn’t racism within the Grammy system, or even in the near history of the Grammy Awards. Zooming out and looking big picture especially, it appears there probably is some bias against minority performers. But that doesn’t mean that Beyonce was a victim of that bias. All evidence points to the fact that the Grammy system from the nomination process onward did everything they could to be inclusive to her.
People who follow sports know this instinctively. Since only one team can win it all, you can have decades go by without a team winning it all. We just saw The Chicago Cubs break such a streak. In my opinion this issue has less to do with Beyonce, and more to do with Adele. Even before the nominations were handed out, I believed it was preordained Adele would win Album of the Year, and said as much during the 2016 Grammy Awards. Since then, I have never wavered. When Taylor Swift release “1989,” she made history by selling 2 million copies in the first couple of weeks. This turned the industry upside down. Nobody though sales of this calibre were even possible anymore. Then when Adele released “25,” her sales topped 4 million in the first couple of weeks, doubling Taylor Swift’s feat.
It’s unfortunate all of this happened when Beyonce was putting out “Lemonade” I mean this from the bottom of my heart, I feel bad for Beyonce, and I’m not even a fan. As I said in the article, I think for all the contributions she’s made, she does deserve an Album of the Year. But timing is everything, and timing got her again. Nothing was going to stop the juggernaut of Adele, not even the election of Trump and a political backlash persuading Grammy voters.
But I think that someday Beyonce will get her trophy. And that moment will be more special than any other Album of the Year previously because it will have been so well earned, so longed-for, and will be so well-received, just like the Chicago Cubs’ victory last year. Everyone will come together Beyonce and non-Beyonce fans, to celebrate it. Because we all lose and know how it feels, and yearn for that moment when our efforts are finally and justifiably recognized.
February 14, 2017 @ 3:14 pm
WHY DO YOU HATE BEYONCÉ, TRIGGER?!!
February 15, 2017 @ 6:49 am
Let it go…
February 15, 2017 @ 7:24 am
Someone fell into the Sar-Chasm…
February 14, 2017 @ 12:18 pm
I think we forgot what racism really looks like.
Lately, the media/people keep trying to convince me that it’s lurking behind every corner.
February 14, 2017 @ 12:24 pm
Oh and I guess Sturgill Simpson should have phoned Justin Timberlake to get that prime time spot on national television
February 14, 2017 @ 12:41 pm
Wow, I don’t like writing comments about comments about comments, but I just want to commend you, Trigger, for your conviction and patience. It is amazing how you go out of your way to give an avenue to everyone who has something to say in response to your work, and you actually respond intelligently in turn. Lesser, more unprofessional writers might have disabled the comments for this one by now, after exceeding their ocular intake of bullshit after the first few. Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad you don’t (free speech FTW).
The only thing I might do differently is, after stating and restating my point in every way possible so there should be no chance of misunderstanding, I think I might sign off and let the others continue to flame out if they wish. Make a sandwich, kick back, read on, shake your head, and think “Mmm, that’s good roast beef. Little salty, but still pretty good”, and just focus on the next piece. I would like to still be reading you when we’re both old and grey, but you gotta keep that ticker ticking, dude.
I read this article, thought “He’s making a good point that nobody else seems to be noticing, as obvious as it was to me. Good job.” Then I start in on the comments and, like holy shit. Maybe you should just use a Beyonce pic for every article, call them all “Bey Bey, clicky-clicky-baitshop” and end them all with a “But how about that Queen B, eh? She looked pretty chubby at the Grammys, she needs to lay off the Colt 45.”, just so you’ll be deserving of the toxic gas bombs being hurled at you. Jesus Christ. Neither Beyonce or Sturgill need any defending at this point. Do you think they give a shit right now? She has a baby on the way and just won multiple Grammys. He just had the biggest night of his career. I’m sure they would want everyone to just calm the hell down.
Anyway, in all seriousness, I come for the articles and I stay for the professionalism. Thanks Trigger, you’re a better man than me.
February 14, 2017 @ 1:57 pm
hahahah
how did I know the answer to the question before even reading the post?
anything to mention his name.
February 14, 2017 @ 2:27 pm
Trigger I get your drift.
Can’t win for trying..
I thought it was odd that they bumped country album of the year for the country performance award.
What can you do?
I think Dwight’s introduction and announcement that Sturgill won, helped.
The performance is what generated the buzz..
All things being equal, I thought the whole visual aspect to lemonade (what did they call it a video album) made it a better piece of art, and a lot of people combined the two.
The grammy’s are about the music.
Could’ve hurt her in thee voting.
February 14, 2017 @ 4:26 pm
Chris, you have just completely assured that I will never purchase or support your music. You sure seem quick to announce that you create “art”. As if you are the only one who has an opinion that matters. You say Kyle is entitled to his own opinions, then go on to tell him he is wrong and that his blog/website is nothing but click bait. You don’t get to decide what Kyle should write about on his own website, just as he wouldn’t tell you how to write your own “art”. Get over yourself.
February 15, 2017 @ 8:13 am
Like I told someone else, I honestly don’t care if you never buy one of my albums. Thank you.
February 15, 2017 @ 8:46 am
No reason not to support Chris King’s music regardless of what you think of his remarks. You should support his music if you like it regardless if you like his opinions. There are plenty of artists I don;t agree with in one capacity or another, but if their music’s good, I’m consuming it. Life’s too short to put that type of limitation on your musical experience.
February 14, 2017 @ 8:21 pm
With only 5 nomination slots, the grammy’s have set themselves up to fail. There’s no way that they can appropriately represent diversity with an odd number of nominations in a category. Three men and two women, that’s not even and fair. Three women and two men, that’s not even and fair either.
We need 6 noms per category. Three men and three women per category. Oh shit, I forgot to include race. Ok..ok… one white man, one white woman, one black man, one black woman, one hispanic man, and one hispanic woman. That’s still a total of 6 noms per award. Every nomination group shall, from now on, follow this format so that no one is offended or excluded.
Also, the nominees will be read in specific rotating order, according to both gender and race, so as not to show favoritism to any specific race or gender. Shit, I forgot asians, they should be represented. I mean, it’s all about diversity.
Now we’re at 8 noms per category. Double dukes, I forgot about the LGBTQA folks. So we have the four races, multiplied by 6 sexual/gender identities, that’s 24 noms per category. Almost forgot to add the straight folks back into the equation again. I think that brings us to 32 nominations per category. Someone smarter than me should check my math before we exclude someone because I have a liberal arts degree and math is hard.
These rules should not only apply to the general “album of the year” type categories, but ALL categories in order to be inclusive. After reviewing the list of nominees, that “best metal performance” group is looking like an awfully white sausage fest. Also, the “best regional Mexican music album(including tejano)” category is looking a little…too Mexican? We can do better. There has to be an all gay Thai band that plays Tejano or Norteno music somewhere. Someone get NPR on the blower and find them. (I don’t want to offend, so I’ll slide right past the ladyboy joke and make you say it in your head)
All I know is we really need to get some diversity in ALL the grammy’s. Damn it, I forgot religious groups. Is it too late to add them in? Where are my muslims for the “best contemporary christian music album”?
February 15, 2017 @ 8:54 am
Call me ignorant, but what does A stand for in LGBTQA?
Good rant by the way…
February 15, 2017 @ 9:03 am
I actually wouldn’t mind if they expanded the “Contemporary Christian Music” category to “Contemporary Religious Music.”
Especially since “Best contemporary Christian Music Album” is almost always an oxymoron,
February 15, 2017 @ 9:29 am
They’re always playing it at a gas station near my house. Just about every song sounds like Where The Streets Have No Name by U2.
February 15, 2017 @ 10:19 am
Without any real instruments, usually.
Any time I drive through the Carolinas, I’m hard pressed to find a channel that isn’t Christian EDM.
February 14, 2017 @ 8:59 pm
Sweet Jesus HC; I missed a hell of a day around here. Think everyone needs to wake up tomorrow and kill the ego…..
February 16, 2017 @ 5:07 pm
Thanks for writing this article, Trigger. Beyoncé’s minions are always kvetching about how she’s being overlooked/discriminated against. Her fan base is simply not as vast as Adele’s.