It’s Not Country’s ‘Nirvana Moment.’ It’s the ‘Zach Bryan Moment.’

When Zach Bryan first announced that he would release his new self-titled album on the same day (August 25th) that the Turnpike Troubadours we’re releasing their much anticipated first album in six years A Cat in the Rain, I told folks to not worry. Turnpike had the wind at their backs, and plenty of momentum after their hiatus. If anything, two monster records coming out on the same day my ultimately help both by creating a big buzz.
Well, I was wrong.
What I didn’t calculate for was just how massive the Zach Bryan release was going to be, and how it would suck most all of the oxygen out of the room for most anything else, including but not limited to the Turnpike Troubadours. Their numbers weren’t terrible or anything, but their third best release week isn’t exactly setting the world on fire like they were coming out of their hiatus. But this wasn’t all Zach Bryan’s fault.
Folks need to remember that when A Cat in the Rain was first announced, it was kind of a mess. A new single first leaked via TouchTunes— not a huge issue, but one that took a little gas out of the surprise factor. Then the day before the album was to be announced, the announcement accidentally appeared on their website. Then when a scramble drill ensued, they decided to release an exclusive announcement along with an interview with Evan Felker behind a Rolling Stone paywall, and without having any of the pre-orders or or pre-save links for the album available.
Yours truly went apoplectic at how the publicity team was fumbling this huge opportunity for the Turnpike Troubadours to have their national moment. No offense to journalist Josh Crutchmer who wrote a good enough article for Rolling Stone (he’ll take offense to me mentioning him anyway to sow clout on Twitter), but that news didn’t just need to be in one antiquated and polarizing outlet behind a paywall, but in every periodical in country music via a press release. Nonetheless, I rationalized that the Turnpike rollout would still be fine due to their massive momentum.
Well, I was wrong.
I loved A Cat in the Rain and gave it a big score. But it didn’t help that from the perspective of some fans, it was a little bit of a let down. Chalk it up to unrealistic expectations or folks just not understanding that sometimes it takes months or even years for the importance of a Turnpike Troubadours song or album to reveal itself. Trust me, years from now people will be singing “Brought Me,” “The Rut,” and “Mean Old Sun” right beside the rest of their favorites.
The Turnpike Troubadours are no longer just headliners in Texas and Oklahoma. They’re headliners nationally. You just hoped for a bigger moment for them through their album release.
But it is Zach Bryan’s world right now, and the rest of us are just living in it. Just as some were worried about Zach Bryan shading out the Turnpike Troubadours, now some are now concerned that Zach’s surprise new EP Boys of Faith will do his tour buddy Charles Wesley Godwin and his new album Family Ties dirty by depreciating it in everyone’s attention feeds. That worry is probably not an entirely misplaced.
Recently, YouTube commentator Grady Smith declared Zach Bryan’s current success country music’s “Nirvana moment.” All his commentary on the situation is spot on, including drawing parallels between hair metal and Bro-Country, and how despite our current enthusiasm for all the success of earnest and heartfelt music, all of this stuff tends to be cyclical, and we’re likely to see a regression back towards music as product at some point in the future.
My only caveat would be that people declared the moment in 2015/2016 with Sturgill Simpson’s success as a “Nirvana moment,” specially after he covered the band’s song “In Bloom.” Everything we’re experiencing today was built off the work that many independently-minded artists did before. In my opinion, what’s happening with Zach Bryan, and to an extent, Oliver Anthony and others has blown past any “Nirvana moment,” and we are now into proprietary, uncharted territory that people will refer to as the “Zach Bryan moment” in the future.
This is despite, or perhaps because of the fact that Bryan continues to release self-produced music that is fair to characterize as unrefined and in need of editing. But as Bryan has proven time and time again, it doesn’t really matter. The honest sentiments at the heart of his generational resonance shine through, and they’re finding their way to a welcoming and extremely large audience.
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The new Zach Bryan EP starts with the song “Nine Ball,” which is fictional on the surface, though perhaps very real underneath. Zach Bryan has forged his career from singing about his dearly departed mother. But his father has been very much a part of the story in regards to Zach’s entourage. It’s about time there was a song about him, however dramaticized, and it’s a great new Zach Bryan track.
As of a few weeks ago, I had never heard of Noah Kahan. But even before his pairing with Zach on the song “Sarah’s Place,” he was bigger than Luke Bryan, Jason Aldean, or Keith Urban. Kahan is unexpectedly and undeniably massive, almost on a Zach Bryan scale. They’re pairing here is titanic, even if the track is a little wordy. It’s wordy in that Zach Bryan kind of way that his fans love though.
I’ve never cared for Bon Iver, and the way his 3-year-old indie rock album displaced all actual folk and Americana artists on Billboard’s Folk/Americana chart for years. The song “Boys of Faith” is equally unimpressive and distinctly unrootsy in a way that reminds you of the worst of pretentious, Pitchfork-style douche canoe shoegaze.
Criticize Zach Bryan all you want for releasing albums on the same day as other folks deserving of undivided attention, his collaborations with Kacey Musgraves, Sierra Ferrell, and The War and Treaty have been epic for their important careers. Zach Bryan was able to do what an entire industry failed at when it came to properly representing these artists. But Noah Kahan and Bon Iver aren’t exactly in need of this attention.
The song “Deep Satin” from the EP was clearly inspired by Zach’s time living in New York. The structure of the song is extremely similar to other Zach Bryan songs, and the horns and such don’t help to hide that. But the song also exemplifies what Zach Bryan does best, which is to work toward an emotional crescendo through a story that all his listeners can visualize and relate to. He then renders the song even more endearing by referencing the Grateful Dead’s “Friend of the Devil.”
“Pain, Sweet, Pain” might be the most country track on the EP, and benefits from a little needed tempo, even if it fails to convey it’s underlying point.
Just like the new Zac Bryan LP, this new EP is not bad. But it’s a little frustrating to witness a regression back to pre-producer quality. As Zach Bryan has proven time and time again though, the nitpicking of opinionated little critics just does not matter. It’s Zach Bryan who is setting the rules and parameters of the game at the moment.
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I’m not sure what strategy Zach’s manager Danny Kang and the rest of his team is employing by releasing an EP a few weeks after a big album just like he did in 2022. Perhaps it’s to keep Zach Bryan’s name in the news, and that certainly has worked. But if the question is if it will take ink and attention away from Charles Wesley Godwin and his new album Family Ties just like it did from the Turnpike Troubadours on August 25th, the answer is probably in the affirmative.
In Zach Bryan’s defense, he says he had no idea that Godwin was releasing a new album the same day, and it almost seems like Godwin’s new label Big Loud (Morgan Wallen, Hardy, et al) had little clue either. Physical product of Family Ties won’t even be available through most retailers until mid October. This will affect his debut numbers. They also don’t seem to be interested in servicing any of Godwin’s songs to country radio. So what’s the point of working with a big Nashville label? Because they gave you the biggest pile of cash?
Similar to the situation with the Turnpike Troubadours, you just want to see everything firing on all cylinders for these guys, and it’s frustrating when it doesn’t. But just like the new Turnpike Troubadours album, Charles Wesley Godwin’s Family Ties is a good one (read review) and will ultimately withstand the test of time.
In fairness, Zach Bryan didn’t have any physical product ready to go when he released his new self-titled LP either. But the difference between Zach Bryan and everyone else is he can make a litany of mistakes and still succeed. Some people even find the screwball nature of his operation endearing. That’s another parallel with the Nirvana moment once again.
But Zach Bryan’s success also has to do with how his music is being promoted, and how it’s not being promoted as well. He’s not relying on sanctimonious puff pieces that much of his 20-something audience would never read even if it wasn’t behind a paywall. The only people who still care about such pieces are the publicists who get judged by placements as opposed to sales and streams, and the established fans of a band who will seek out in-depth coverage of them.
Zach Bryan’s advertisement and promotion has always been the best kind because it’s free and the most effective: word of mouth. Recently, Josh Crutchmer and Rolling Stone wrote an article about Oklahoma songwriters and how they’re so hot right now (now paywalled). But the reason writers like Wyatt Flores are exploding at the moment is because their teams are focusing on getting their songs to trend on Tik-Tok as opposed to trying to get the media or country radio interested in what they’re doing. That dinosaur stuff doesn’t mean anything to Wyatt, or Zach. They’ve gone directly to the fans.
Meanwhile, Dustin Lynch is out there reworking the old classic “Drift Away” into a General Motors advertisement called “Chevrolet” like it’s still 2014 and this garbage will fly. But it’s a new day in country music, and though all of the success presents new problems like needing air traffic controllers to keep all the incredible albums coming out from getting congested at strangle points, these are good problems to have.
When the future looks back at this current moment, it will be with envy about how people got to experience when Zach Bryan, Charles Wesley Godwin, the Turnpike Troubadours, and others all released landmark albums in a span of a few weeks, recalibrating what country music is and can be, and affecting it forevermore, and to the positive.
That is the moment and era that we are living in. It’s the Zach Bryan moment. I can’t wait to see the Hall of Fame exhibit about it in 40 years, if I’m still around.
September 27, 2023 @ 11:23 am
Without putting down Bryan’s music at all, I am still trying to figure out why it was him that captured the nation. My best guess is that it is a combination of good music, him being young, and for whatever reason, his music appealing strongly to women.
September 27, 2023 @ 12:36 pm
The main thing was the whole “guy with a guitar” thing that he had at the start. It’s one of the things that blew up Childers too. Many of the people who listen to Childers and Zach are not or were not people who followed independent country music. They were starved for authentic sounding music and to them acoustic music is the most authentic sounding music and they were blown away by it.
I was noticing this for years before ZB blew up. It first came to my attention when buddies would make a big deal over Brent Cobb’s “Black Crow” or make a bigger deal out of all Childers’ acoustic recordings rather than his album versions. The music they listened to was so commercialized/over produced they were desperate for something to sound “raw” even if the quality wasn’t as high as other music. ZB really benefitted from Childers blowing up. The same late teens to mid20s people who were obsessed with Childers acoustic recordings highly overlap with ZBs audience.
For the record none of my comments are a knock on Childers. I think his music is much better than ZBs and his acoustic recordings are great. I just often prefer the album and live versions because I enjoy the added textures a band brings and I noticed people were drawn to the acoustic cuts instead.
September 28, 2023 @ 9:21 am
Oh, I’ll comfortably take Bottles and Bibles/Red Barn over most of Purgatory, just like I’ll take I Feel Alright over Copperhead Road, Rose Queen over Hebert Island, In the Throes over Big Bad Luv, and Live from Alabama over the DBT studio versions.
But I also grew up listening to a mix of Tom Petty, Dire Straits, Dispatch, and Neutral Milk Hotel…and I prefer milk that expires three days after you open it to shelf-stable half and half.
September 28, 2023 @ 11:25 am
That’s fine. I enjoy acoustic music too and I enjoy Bottles and Bibles. I just also find acoustic often a bit monotonous after a while unless the artist is essentially Robert Johnson. For example, individually I think it’s hard to find a track to cut on Bottles and Bibles but at the same time the album runs to long for what it’s sonically offering and the songs start to blend into each other. Apple Music had a 9 track cut of the album for a period of time and the album flowed much better even though they cut songs I really enjoyed.
I just often prefer the added depth to a song and variety to an album that a band provides.
September 28, 2023 @ 12:50 pm
Totally fair!
Personally, my order winners are lyrics, melody, and vocals (particularly a ragged tenor), in that order…so Zach Bryan is pretty much designed in a lab to appeal to me, haha.
On the same note…I firmly believe that if WCG were 10 years younger, he never would have had to write “Next Big Thing,” haha!
The man would be able to afford plenty of gas in the tank, in this musical environment!
September 28, 2023 @ 11:15 am
Well said. You concisely described how a bunch of us feel.
September 28, 2023 @ 3:33 pm
You want to hear cutting edge county check out csptc’s beer underthe bridge or be like Wyatt earp
October 2, 2023 @ 4:14 pm
This is it 100% for me. As a mid 20s guy, I’ve only grown up with the commercialized music row that pushed and produces shit music. Zach’s music is just so relatable and real. No auto tune, no group thinking writing about stuff the industry thinks people want to care about or enjoys. He writes from the heart and in todays world, that’s just uncommon.
It’s why I liked Luke Combs so much, because it felt authentic and I think even he is starting to let that commercialization get to him.
September 27, 2023 @ 12:44 pm
It’s emotional honesty. Argue it if you want but people believe in him the guy and believe his music is authentic and speaks to their own experiences. Again I’m sure some people will argue about whether that’s true. Doesn’t matter. That’s what people love. They think that’s true.
September 27, 2023 @ 5:22 pm
No all star teams of songwriters and producers. No armies of studio musicians. Songs that go wider than clubbing tonight. Songs that vibe if you’re in flyover country and not a redneck d bag. This is kinda what indie rock was all about with Paul westerberg and husker du. At its best country was kind of a form of indie rock and vice versa. There’s a hair’s breadth of difference to me between Isaac Brock and Willie Nelson.
September 28, 2023 @ 4:37 pm
To me it’s all mainly honest gibberish.
September 27, 2023 @ 12:53 pm
Me and my wife saw ZB as he was starting to blow-up. I’ve been to hundreds and hundreds of shows. The ZB show was a crazy crowd that was over the top enthused with it. I really cant recall too many like that. My wife’s comment was the guys like him as much as the girls do.
Personally, I’m not knocking him at all. I like him, I listen to him. I am surprised at how big he is, all the power to him. This whole ZB thing is weird. Especially with the amount of songs he writes and puts out. Either like him or your don’t. For some reason though, he really has mass appeal.
September 27, 2023 @ 6:52 pm
In the 90’s I went to a show. While the singer was slicing his chest up with a broken bottle, the bass player used lighter fluid to set his instrument on fire – while still playing it – and subsequently accidentally ignited himself in the process. I was pretty much “over the top enthused with it” as well, at the time. Band was “The Candy Snatchers”. Their old records still hold up. Check out “Moronic Pleasures”. Awesome!
September 28, 2023 @ 4:10 pm
I saw Childers in May 2019 at an indie music festival in Ohio. He headlined Thursday night (first night). It was bananas. Total culture clash. The hipsters and hippies that were the usual demographic were standing shoulder to shoulder with all the new TC fans – boots, hats, and Wranglers, just about every one. TC opened with White House Road, which brought the house down. At that show I got what was up with TC immediately. No wondering ‘the hell?’
September 28, 2023 @ 4:42 pm
I saw Childers in February 2020 – only got in because the bouncer took pity on me, after I’d stood waiting so long hoping someone had an extra.
The Local Honeys opened for him…and those two girls showed so much more than him and his whole damn band that I’ll only grab those Dublin tickets if I see that a similarly superior opener will be there.
Incidentally, I’ve seen Zach Bryan multiple times, in multiple countries…and I’ve never seen him blown out of the water by his opener the way I’ve seen Childers or Colter Wall.
September 27, 2023 @ 7:32 pm
I don’t know if it’s pretentiousness or what, but to continually put out 100 songs a year to his fans with the attitude of – “This is good enough for you all to listen to” – I don’t fully understand his intentions.
September 28, 2023 @ 6:18 am
It’s because folks under 30 have become used to “content generation,” which forces creators and artists to put out pretty much anything, as soon as it is made, in order to keep the attention of their fans. It makes sense with ZB, as he is probably one of the few true superstars who can thank tik tok for his ascendance. Also, the songs that seem not quite as higher quality as other artists feed into his persona as being authentic, which by the way, I am not saying he isn’t.
September 28, 2023 @ 9:13 am
It’s far more because folks under 35 (including Bryan!) grew up being able to take all of their favorite songs from an artist and turn it into a playlist, regardless of artists’ album construction or intentions.
So if he has a batch of songs that he thinks are “good enough,” and he’s recorded them to his liking, he’ll release them and let the fans pick and choose which of them they want to add to their “Zach Bryan” playlist.
It’s the David Chang mentality vs. Tweezer Food.
September 28, 2023 @ 4:35 pm
Fair point. And including the fan base in his “artistic process” is unique. Maybe this is a significant course correction from the whole ‘overproduced’ music thing.
Me being a small-time critic I expect people to be in tune and on-pitch and in time.
September 28, 2023 @ 4:50 pm
And people who like artists because they like songs because they like words set to music care very little about any of that.
For Bryan’s audience, the fact that he “misses the note” in his songs because he’s too focused on the “feeling” behind the song is the point.
And he knows that.
September 27, 2023 @ 10:08 pm
Zach Bryan is the male Taylor Swift of emo alt country, not that there is anything wrong with that…
He did the right thing by bringing folks like Isbell and Turnpike Troubadours onto his 2024 tour. And hopefully he is making “Americana” a staple of “pop country”. It’s tiring seeing paid actors like Morgan Wallen and Jason Aldean topping the charts on the backs of the artists writing their songs.
September 27, 2023 @ 10:24 pm
The combination of “writes quality songs” and “writes with a voice that speaks to the young” is pretty rare in country music.
If you look at the younger artists praised on this site, phrases like “old soul” get thrown around a lot. Zach Bryan is most decidedly not an “old soul”, and that’s part of his appeal.
September 28, 2023 @ 6:20 am
Like others have since stated, in addition to the general simple style, I think the popularity of Zach’s music is largely in the fact that he can write beautiful stories and vivid scenes, but he does it in simple, easy to understand ways.
I love Turnpike Troubadours, but comparing Evan’s songwriting to Zach’s, I just feel like Zach’s is easier for most folk to wrap their head around. Some of Evan’s lyrics you really need to digest, or understand the backstory. Zach’s are still often poetic in themselves, but in a simpler, easier for the masses, way.
September 28, 2023 @ 9:04 am
Yeah, it’s a lot of first-person songs with big emotions and bigger hooks.
Tornado Warning and Ringing in the Year are the only Turnpike songs in the last decade that are as catchy as Fear and Fridays…and I wouldn’t rate Fear and Friday’s as one of Bryan’s top ten hooks.
September 28, 2023 @ 10:14 am
Agree to disagree regarding Zach having “bigger hooks”. Turnpike has countless catchy hooks, even if you’re only including their three most recent albums for discussion… The Housefire, Brought Me, Easton & Main, Unrung, Something to Hold On To, The Mercury, Sunday Morning Paper, A Cat In the Rain, The Hard Way, etc. in addition to the two you mentioned.
Appreciate you mentioning Ringing in the Year, though. Very underrated gem.
September 28, 2023 @ 11:35 am
I’ve listened to ALWFYH dozens of times, and the only one of those songs whose melody I could hum right now is Unrung…which is absolutely one of my favorite Turnpike Songs!
September 28, 2023 @ 10:55 am
My problem with Zach Bryan is exactly that his hooks are so weak, half of his songs just sound like rough sketches with him just kinda mumbling over them. Evan Felker is much better at writing catchy, memorable hooks, plus the lyrics are much more worked out and thought through than ZB’s.
September 29, 2023 @ 5:29 am
Meanwhile, I’d be hard-pressed to identify a single song on A Cat in the Rain as a “Turnpike Song” without hearing Felker’s vocals…and even with the vocals, the only one I’d be able to name without the help of a track list is Chipping Mill.
Album felt like after the 10th song that Bruce rejected from The Next Waltz for being memorable enough, the guys said “Fuck it, we have enough for an album. Let’s just release one.”
I firmly believe this is the best possible version of those songs, in terms of arrangement and production.
I also struggle to care about any of them.
As far as lyrics go…they’re clearly going for different styles, in their latest releases.
But I will add that Turnpike used to be quite a bit better about not letting words get in the way of what they’re saying.
September 27, 2023 @ 11:24 am
‘As of a few weeks ago, I had never heard of Noah Kahan.’
I could swear that you covered ‘Stick Season’ in a release radar or album review at some some point last year.
September 27, 2023 @ 11:48 am
And Stick Season (including its deluxe edition) is a fantastic album.
September 27, 2023 @ 3:31 pm
Oddly enough, I hadn’t heard of him til yesterday when one of his songs came on a Detroit alternative radio station. I remember thinking it could be country ish as well
September 28, 2023 @ 9:23 am
The older Gen Z set (14-25) LOVES him.
Definitely New England ZB vibes, haha
September 27, 2023 @ 11:45 am
I didn’t even know Bryan released an EP. Just from my point of view it makes no sense so soon after the album. Maybe they know the majority of his fans have such short attention spans due to cell phones that they feel the need to constantly be putting new stuff out or they’ll forget about him
September 27, 2023 @ 12:29 pm
I think this is the situation. Short attention spans + cell phones = Fans posting on social media about any new music he releases. That ultimately keeps his name out there.
September 27, 2023 @ 12:45 pm
+ the lemming syndrome.
September 27, 2023 @ 12:45 pm
I’m not sure how short attention spans produces 20+ million streams on every song of a 36 track album. That’s a lot more attention span than the people on here that gripe about an album that goes longer than 30 mins.
Also, American Heartbreak was released over a year ago, and people certainly haven’t forgot about it as it’s still in the Top 15 all genre.
September 27, 2023 @ 12:56 pm
Yeah, there is a lot of discounting of Zach Bryan fans by a vocal minority that don’t count themselves as Zach Bryan fans. This isn’t smoke and mirrors or shallow listeners just jumping on a trend. If you see Zach Bryan live, you would understand this inherently. And yes, there a lot of younger people that are fans of his music, but there are a lot of older folks as well.
I have been strongly critical of Zach Bryan’s music. I was strongly critical of it here. But to act like there’s nothing to it, the writing has no substance, and everyone is getting hosed is to grossly misunderstand what is going on here.
September 27, 2023 @ 3:58 pm
I’m 59 and have been listening to country since the late 70s, with Merle, Hank Jr, Waylon and a few others. There has not been a country artist to turn my head since Zach. His music just touches folks in a personal way. I don’t care that he makes mistakes, as you mentioned, it is real and authentic. Hope he can keep it up. Nice article by the way. Loved it.
September 27, 2023 @ 3:54 pm
You are leaving out one key ingredient, quality real music attracts listeners.
September 28, 2023 @ 3:11 am
I think this is right. The standard is “daily content.”
September 28, 2023 @ 10:41 am
Obviously, Zach’s great. Let’s start with that. But releasing music very often is definitely a strategy of today. I think Zach deserves it. There are others in the music business that have figured out this strategy to boost the maximum attention and profit that outsizes their talent. Today, artists and labels make money by having huge pro-rata numbers of overall streaming. New releases every few months keeps those $$$$$ coming in.
September 28, 2023 @ 11:26 am
How many of us would have been slobbering over several Turnpike releases over the last year and a half, instead of griping about the one we got? Now I get it. Give people what they want… way to go Zach! He’s not not old and jaded yet like some of us.
September 27, 2023 @ 11:46 am
Trig said…”When the future looks back at this current moment, it will be with envy about how people got to experience when Zach Bryan, Charles Wesley Godwin, the Turnpike Troubadours, and others all released landmark albums in a span of a few weeks, recalibrating what country music is and can be, and affecting it forevermore, and to the positive.”
You pretty much summed up what I was thinking while reading. Personally Zach Bryan’s style doesn’t really do much for me , but to be mentioned in the same breath as CWG and TT can only help him. And maybe expose the Zach Bryan fans to other great music as well.
September 28, 2023 @ 9:25 am
Frankly, he’s the one helping them – Turnpike is opening for him next year.
September 27, 2023 @ 11:59 am
Ah yes, another Zach Bryan reference/article. I was getting worried.
September 27, 2023 @ 12:12 pm
You’re really missing out on Noah Kahan. Stick Season + the deluxe tracks is absolutely incredible. Even his pre-Stick Season pop stuff is solid.
One thing I’ve noticed is Zach’s collabs showcase his limits as a vocalist. Noah, Kacey, and especially War & Treaty sing circles around him. I’d like for him to improve his vocal technique, but that would go against his DIY aesthetic.
September 27, 2023 @ 12:17 pm
Might time to throw Sam Barber in the mix of very fast rising singer songwriters. Looks like he doing some shows with 49 Winchester, doing Stagecoach next year, and seemingly dropped an EP last week as well.
September 27, 2023 @ 12:29 pm
Zach Top is far superior and country-sounding.
September 27, 2023 @ 12:44 pm
This. 1000%.
September 27, 2023 @ 2:58 pm
Are you kidding me?!?! I had no idea who this was. And just went a listened. I am loving this. Thanks for dropping his name. That’s why I love this place.
September 28, 2023 @ 7:08 am
The comment section pushes the traditional country guys.
September 27, 2023 @ 12:42 pm
Maybe ZB can explain to Childers what an EP and an LP are. That would be a service!
September 27, 2023 @ 12:46 pm
I am still living the new turnpike album as much as any of their albums. I haven’t gone a day since it came out without playing at least one song from it. A Cat In The Rain the song I’m especially digging because it has the most unusual lyrics I’ve ever heard in a still authentic country song. It is like a Bob Dylan song. Which is to say I often can’t follow what the song is saying but each line feels so provocative.
September 27, 2023 @ 1:37 pm
To understand Zach Bryan’s success you need to understand what’s happening with mid-twenties indie artists right now, which began with Phoebe Bridgers, but gained huge traction with Boygenius (Bridgers, Lucy Dacus, and Julien Baker), all of whom grew up with country and are not afraid to mine country tropes or sounds (their first record was a girl-group response to Crosby, Stills, and Nash). The songs on Zach Bryan fit perfectly into a Boygenius playlist. The minute I heard it I recognized that vibe, late twenties WTF do I do now that I’m a grown up kind of sensibility, ironic take on the shit show that is contemporary life, and warm melancholy. All there. It’s not country, and Zach Bryan isn’t going to be country much longer (if he still is). He’s headed to indie and my guess is he stays there.
September 27, 2023 @ 2:41 pm
Check out the playlist Indie Twang on Spotify to see your comment brought to life in one place. Its all indie folk rock with steel guitars and fiddles. Indie/alt rock was my first love so i dig it, and its cool to see the nexus of two very different but similar genres.
Jeremy Pinnell’s last album, “Goodbye LA”, rips.
September 27, 2023 @ 4:04 pm
Don’t care where it lands as long as I like it.
September 27, 2023 @ 4:58 pm
Hard to say, but I think we’re in a period of *massive* genre realignment. I think the edges of a lot of guitar genres have been getting really blurry. To the point I have a hard time defining what country even is in 2023.
September 27, 2023 @ 5:41 pm
I hear you kind of, but Adrienne lenker and Phoebe bridgers couldn’t find a hook if they were handcuffed to one. They are profoundly boring to me.
September 28, 2023 @ 6:23 am
Have you listened to Big Thief? Hooks a-plenty.
September 28, 2023 @ 8:07 am
I have listened to all of their albums, and have never been able to make it through more than about 3 or 4 songs without my attention drifting elsewhere. The hooks ain’t there. Not saying they’re bad technical players – they went to Berklee. But being a good technical player doesn’t make you a good writer.
September 28, 2023 @ 7:21 am
I like both of them, but I can’t listen to a whole album of theirs all the way through without getting bored. Each individual song can be good, but if they’re all slow, sad, and acoustic I start checking out.
September 27, 2023 @ 1:53 pm
Not to be “that guy” but I feel like I’m suffering from Zach Bryan fatigue. It’s not that I dislike his music, I quite enjoy some of his songs but it feels like anywhere I turn, there’s someone talking about it. I had to unfollow Rhiskey Wiff just because if this guy has a bowel movement, they will want to report on what he ate the night before. It’s too much.
September 27, 2023 @ 7:56 pm
Nowhere near as bad as CountryCentral. Their Instagram has become nauseating.
September 28, 2023 @ 8:41 am
It’s not unusual to see three posts about Zach Bryan on Whiskey Riff and CountryCentral a day. I’m guessing that’s the reason people think that I am posting about Zach Bryan all of the time is because he’s constantly in people’s feeds. I do cover Zach Bryan, but it’s not a constant thing by any stretch. Yet when I do post about him, people scream about how it’s all I cover.
September 27, 2023 @ 2:01 pm
i’m curious what you mean by nirvana’s operation being “ screwball.”. they were on geffen records and had a huge push from both mtv and radio. they also basically singlehandedly destroyed hair metal, which was the most massive genre of rock for the previous several years (warrant’s cherry pie record, which was huge, was released only one year prior to nevermind). cobain himself was definitely somewhat of a loose cannon, but the machine behind him was anything but screwball. i know times have drastically changed in the last 30+ years, but i’m not really getting the nirvana connection. for the record, i dig zach bryan and own deann on vinyl and american heartbreak on cd. but i’m a physical product guy, and most of his stuff is digital (i.e.- i don’t listen to it). my 14 year old daughter, however, listens to him and wallen pretty much exclusively.
September 27, 2023 @ 3:35 pm
I’ve been thinking about this every so often since people first started saying it with Sturgill Simpson: country already had its “Nirvana moment” in the 1970s with the outlaw movement. That huge move back to basics where people responded to more stripped down, intimate music over the overproduced equivalent. Perhaps the Nashville Sound was never as over the top as hair metal, but I think that comparison fits, particularly when you consider how it affected the mainstream. It essentially entirely changed the direction of the genre, just like grunge did. If anything, rock had its “outlaw moment,” it’s just that rock has always had more mainstream appeal and respect, so of course that’s the reference point.
What’s happening now is a lot more elusive. Yes, you can clearly see the influence of people like Zach Bryan in the mainstream, but the fact that the country music industry at large (or at least radio) continue to pretend guys like him, Sturgill, Tyler Childers, Cody Jinks, etc. don’t exist is why this is different from the “Nirvana moment.” As you say, hair metal almost ceased to exist in the wake of Nevermind; I can still turn on the radio and hear crappy bro-country, or at least some songs approximating it. It’s not as suffocating as ten years ago, perhaps, but it’s still around. As I’ve said elsewhere, I’ve been reading about how bro-country is “dead” and country is having a renaissance for a while now. It’s not that it’s untrue, but I can still find people in my everyday life that only think country music is what’s on the radio (including plenty of actual country folks).
The level of exposure these indie acts have is certainly impressive, especially compared to how obscure underground music used to actually be. But country is more or less two different worlds now, and it has been for a while. That’s not a “Nirvana moment” at all; Nirvana didn’t just blow up underground music while hair metal kept chugging away. Grunge made hair metal fully irrelevant, to the point that it couldn’t even coexist.
September 27, 2023 @ 4:09 pm
It’s still early. Let’s give it a little longer to see the true effects of the new trend.
September 27, 2023 @ 5:37 pm
I guess what I was trying to say is that the Zach Bryan thing is messy. It’s messy production. There’s nothing sleek or polished about any of it, kind of like Nirvana and grunge. That really wasn’t meant to be a commentary on Geffen as much as the organic and unpolished nature of the whole grunge scene.
September 27, 2023 @ 2:31 pm
Perhaps someone can educate some of us. The Billboard website is an atrocity to navigate. I was under the understanding that Zach Bryan was listed as pop. I also struggle to see how this is country or even alt-country. It seems like he is indie love Singer songwriter pop. I would love to hear an argument for him to be country.
I think my concern with how he dominates this website (and I say this absolutely in the spirit of discussion because I love, respect, defend, and very much appreciate Trig). I know that this website as a devotion to saving country music and as a result very often reaches pretty far to find it ways to connect trends and concepts. I just can’t seem to get on board with this one. If anyone feels a little altruism in their heart to spend the time to respond, I would love to read the argument to separate my brain from my classification listed above so me or anyone else who shares this opinion could get on board with the Zach Bryan articles posted on this site.
September 27, 2023 @ 3:51 pm
I’m not sure that someone could present a good argument that ZB IS country, but what he doing is shining a massive light on the country music genre, which IMO is providing a net benefit for numerous artist that get features and opening slots at his shows. I’m not sure that Chris Stapleton or Whisky Myers are any closer to country than ZB, and half of what Trig posts in his release radar articles falls near the peripheries of what one would consider country music. Trigs compendium of country sub-genres listed 30+ genres of music that are country leaning, which really makes it difficult comprehend what is and is not country music.
When you attend a ZB concert, 15,000 people are wearing cowboy hats and boots. When you attend a Chris Stapleton concert, maybe a few here and there are wearing boots and hats. Does the dress of choice make the music country? Of course not, but it means pearl snaps and boots are cool among the youth, and while these youngsters are in a craze, they are being exposed to CWG, TT, Jason Isbell, Sierra Ferrel, W&T, Kacey, and Billy strings, 49 Win, Charley Crockett at Country Superfest. If the ZB fans fall on the other side of the fence, then it’s Cole Swindell, Dustin Lynch, Wallen, and other morally degrading company that is vying for an attention. ZB is on the side of country music, whether he is country or not is irrelevant.
Just my 2 cents of why it’s important to discuss.
September 28, 2023 @ 4:26 am
Outstanding point about the exposure. I asked 20 people yesterday what kind of music he was. 12 did not know, one said hipster, and the other seven said some thing that pertained to country.
I was falsely under the impression that nobody viewed him as country and an online article about him recently had mentioned he was pop on the Billboard charts.
Understanding all of this, I believe that all of us should be rooting for this guy because it would be so nice to not have to explain ourselves when someone asks us what kind of music we like and we answer “country”.
September 28, 2023 @ 7:45 am
One reason you might see people say he is on the “pop” charts is because he’s been appearing on the Billboard Hot 100, which tracks all the top tracks in all of music, and the Billboard 200, which tracks all the top albums in all of music. Pop have their own separate charts as well, just like country. But some consider the Hot 100 like the pop charts, because it’s all popular music.
This all just underscores how insanely massive Zach Bryan is. I don’t think that people appreciate yet that Zach Bryan is as big as any artist in country music has ever been, if not bigger. We’re talking Garth Brooks level from an artist that has never had a radio hit. That is why it is so earth shattering, and worth discussing.
September 27, 2023 @ 5:46 pm
RJ,
1) Zach Bryan is not listed as pop on Billboard. He’s listed under country, folk/Americana, and rock.
2) Zach Bryan does not “dominate” this website. The last time a wrote a dedicated article about Zach Bryan was three weeks ago. I also mentioned him a bit in an article about Super Bowl performers, but he was one of many people I talked about.
I appreciate that some people think I’m obsessed with Zach Bryan or that he dominates the coverage here, but this is just statistically false. Over the last few weeks, I’ve posted more about the Hank Williams Centennial than Zach Bryan, and about AmericanaFest more than Zach Bryan. It’s just people’s eyes gravitate more towards articles where Zach Bryan is the topic.
That said, Zach Bryan is the biggest artist in country music at the moment, and I’m going to cover him, especially when he releases an LP and and EP in the span of a month.
This article is not saying “Zach Bryan, hell yeah!” One of the major topics of this article was how Zach Bryan is overshadowing other artists, and the changing media landscape where an artist like Zach can circumvent conventional media coverage, and still find success. We need to talk about how Zach Bryan’s overwhelming success is affecting other artists.
I literally combined a review of Zach’s new EP, and article about how he was overshadowing the Turnpike Troubadours and Charles Wesley Godwin, and an article about the supposed “Nirvana moment” into one so people wouldn’t complain I’m posting about Zach Bryan all the time. And still people are complaining that I’m posting about Zach Bryan all the time.
If you don’t want to read about Zach Bryan, there are plenty of other articles about other topics. But if something big happens with Zach Bryan tomorrow, I will post about Zach Bryan.
September 28, 2023 @ 2:08 am
Trig, perhaps you can help me with what is wrong with me. My wife and a few of my employees take one word out of things I say and focus on that for the entire response and never seems to recognize that I made a point. They turn it into an argument. I didn’t make a point in my post but rather was asking for clarity, but I am being serious here. Perhaps the word I used was the straw that broke the camel’s back for you and you wanted to put the point on blast for folks to see, but if I have some trigger point in my deliveries.
September 28, 2023 @ 7:41 am
Hey RJ,
I don’t mean to come across like I am jumping down your throat. I often use responses to comments to piggyback to broader topics that are being discussed in the comments section in general. In this instance, I am seeing lots of comments saying that I am constantly talking about Zach Bryan and it’s a focus of mine. All I can do then is ask that question of myself, and say, “Am I constantly talking about Zach Bryan, or is this a misconception?” And when I go back and see that it has been three weeks, and roughly 25-30 articles since I last wrote an article about him last, I am going to speak to that misconception.
I drove all the way to Montgomery, Alabama from Texas to cover the Hank Williams Centennial, and then later to Nashville to cover the event at the Country Music Hall of Fame. That is what I have been obsessed with over the last two weeks. But nobody is saying that I was obsessed with Hank Williams because barely anyone read my coverage of that stuff. That is my frustration.
September 27, 2023 @ 2:37 pm
I haven’t even digested American heartbreak yet and here he has three releases since then.
September 27, 2023 @ 2:52 pm
Turnpike is one of my 3 fave bands, but I just can’t get into that new record. Maybe I will eventually. On the other hand, I am no Zach fanboy but that last record (not the EP — have not had much time to spin that yet) is incredible. I don’t get the accusations it is somehow unfinished or raw. It is just more incredible songwriting. The man pisses excellence. “Hey Driver” is the song of the year. And “Jake’s Piano” is probably second. There isn’t a weak song on the thing. Every time he puts out another super long release I think oh no, this is the one that is gonna suck. But it doesn’t. I have no idea how he is keeping it up. No one is operating at this level right now. Let’s enjoy it while we can.
September 27, 2023 @ 4:26 pm
Agree 100%. Case in point is Sturgill who essentially retired and Childers, who know gives us 5 songs and calls it an album.
The Zach moment may only last a year. Who cares what it is (country, alt rock, whatever) it’s great music!
Enjoy it!
September 27, 2023 @ 2:58 pm
As a tangentially relevant note Nevermnid, Blood Sugar Sex Magic, and Badmortotfinger were all released on the same day.
September 27, 2023 @ 3:40 pm
Badmotorfinger > Nevermind, full stop.
September 27, 2023 @ 4:07 pm
Couldn’t agree more. Nirvana’s crazy overrated.
September 27, 2023 @ 4:13 pm
No lies detected.
September 28, 2023 @ 11:36 am
So which Soundgarden song is > smells like teen spirit? I love lots of them, but I can’t think of one that comes close. they are very different things to me.
September 28, 2023 @ 1:39 pm
Slaves & Bulldozers
September 27, 2023 @ 5:53 pm
and good times were had by all!
September 27, 2023 @ 3:05 pm
Maybe there’s a simple explanation for Zach’s pull…
He’s the first big artist of his fans’ age to make music with real instruments and authenticity. It may be that easy.
When I was young, we had punk and hardcore that had the same raw immediacy and genuineness. Other generations had their versions.
That said, the last full album is the first of his I’ve spun more than once.
September 27, 2023 @ 3:06 pm
“So what’s the point of working with a big Nashville label? Because they gave you the biggest pile of cash?“
Well, it looks from the outside like CWG is still able to make his music, his way. So yes, maybe the point is to be given the biggest pile of cash possible to do what you want to do anyway.
September 27, 2023 @ 3:16 pm
If country music has been saved, is your work done?
Have a quarter if you’ve been asked this question before.
September 27, 2023 @ 3:23 pm
He’s going to change the name of the site to the “Zach Bryan Fan Club”. Can’t wait for those Zach bowel movement reports!
September 27, 2023 @ 3:52 pm
Now we need to save it from Zach Bryan and the ZB clone army.
And from Tyler Childers wasting his talents and making tacky albums.
AND Turnpike and Charles Wesley Goodwin thinking we care about their family life.
At the moment I think Gabe Lee is definitely my favourite. Relatable albums with exquisite writing and instrumentation, good stories and no need for gimmicks.
Actually, I really like the Turnpike album and also Charles’, but I just roll my eyes at some of the lyrics.
Worst offender is “the flood”. Why would you care what someone would do for their family? There are plenty of people risking/losing their life for strangers.
I guess what I mean is yes, musically country is in a better place. Lyrically, we have a bunch of people who are clever with words but don’t have much to say.
A bit like chatGPT I suppose. Sounds clever but isn’t necessarily even true.
P.s. just noticed no females in this list. Thats another thing that should be ‘saved’
P.p.s Wait, Molly Tuttle. Another great album. But sounds the same as the one before it, and also lyrics like chatGPT.
September 28, 2023 @ 12:44 pm
agree on Gabe Lee. The guy is on another level.
September 28, 2023 @ 4:52 pm
LOVE Gabe Lee.
Nicest guy on the planet, too!
September 27, 2023 @ 3:40 pm
In five years all but a few hardcore fans will have forgotten all about ZB. His songs are okay, but most are in need of fleshing out. Deep down he knows his time is short and that’s why he’s throwing as much stuff out there as he can. This is music for people who need to be told what to listen to; right now it’s trendy to like ZB, until the next flash in the pan comes along (and the next flash in the pan is right around the corner). I wish him the best and hope he’s investing his money. Ride the wave and enjoy it Zach!
September 27, 2023 @ 3:59 pm
Have to disagree with you. He has been writing good songs for a few years, many still not released. He is one of the best songwriters of our time. He is not a flash in the pan type artist. If he didn’t write his own music I may agree with you.
September 27, 2023 @ 5:51 pm
People were leaving this SAME EXACT comment four years ago when his first album DeAnn blew up. You can go and read them. He’ll be a flash in the pan, and then people will forget about him. Now he’s the biggest artist in not just country, but one of the biggest artists in all of music.
I have no idea where Zach Bryan will be five years from now. But the idea that he will only be remembered by hardcore fans is a joke. My guess is he will still be making millions and millions of dollars off of his music, and his albums “American Heartbreak” and the new self-titled album will still be in the Top 40 on the Billboard Country Albums charts.
Just because you don’t like him doesn’t mean he’s a flash in the pan. That’s called cope.
September 27, 2023 @ 6:38 pm
I only heard about zb from the American heartbreak review on this site. Heavy eyes was great. I put him up with early Dylan, early modest mouse, and early Craig Finn. He’s the real deal. No one’s telling me what to listen to, he just has it.
September 27, 2023 @ 3:52 pm
Trust me, years from now people will be singing “Brought Me,” “The Rut,” and “Mean Old Sun” right beside the rest of their favorites
I haven’t finished the article but this is 100% true and I think it’s already happening.
September 27, 2023 @ 3:57 pm
I love the new albums by Zach Bryan and Turnpike Troubadours. Looking forward to seeing both — and Billy Strings — at Buckeye Country Superfest 2024!
September 27, 2023 @ 4:33 pm
I don’t get Zach Bryan’s level of success at all. To my old fat ears he’s just ok, pleasant but not exceptional. My fifteen year old grand daughter who so far has learned towards Taylor Swift and the like just got a Zach Bryan hoodie. Her and her friends are all singing along to him in my car when I give them rides. I dunno, he’s got some secret sauce that I can’t taste.
September 28, 2023 @ 11:23 am
I would say that Bryan’s songs are, very intensely, about being an adolescent boy in the 2010s/2020s, just as much as Swift’s songs were about being an adolescent girl in the 2000/2010s.
That’s what drives all the “OH EM GEE, he’s singing about ME!!” reactions…especially when paired with a quality hook.
September 28, 2023 @ 11:37 am
You may be right. I’m just relieved that she’s liking someone like Bryan rather than the tons of dreck out there. I will also play Dr Demento-type stuff for their amusement. “Fish Heads” is a favorite of theirs.
September 27, 2023 @ 4:34 pm
that’s “old fart” lol
September 27, 2023 @ 4:44 pm
Trig, great article as always.
Don’t forget Brent Cobb also released an LP the same day as Zach and CWG and even tweeted something at Zach about releasing something the same day as him…I know success doesn’t find you friends but I feel like some fellow artists may be perturbed by these random drops on the same day as theirs.
Bottom line is it does take away from them too, as you admitted. Some people get really into one album and can not leave room for another ..I am guilty of this
Pretty big ZB fan but also am getting sick of his tweets about people being mean and how you can’t please everyone, etc . To me , this attitude and a ton of music being released could end up with people having ZB fatigue . That being said it hasn’t happened to me yet . ..
I heard Turnpike’s back together and they’re writing songs …
September 27, 2023 @ 11:32 pm
This is the reason I led my coverage of Friday’s releases with Brent Cobb. He was probably the artist most under threat of being overlooked with the Zach/Godwin combination creating most of the buzz.
September 28, 2023 @ 4:04 am
Good point. I didn’t think of that. I was thinking more in relation to this article. I think Brent Cobb is fantastic and knew it definitely sucks for him having his music being released the same day as these guys .
September 27, 2023 @ 6:15 pm
Listen to the 1:20 minute mark of Nine Ball and tell me how that was allowed to happen.
September 27, 2023 @ 7:24 pm
I sense Zach Bryan is big for many reasons. There might be a bit of the Elvis thing going on, where women think he’s handsome and the guys wanna be like him, but aren’t threatened by his appeal to women. He is mostly acoustic which defines most of popular country music now. And most country music lovers are no longer rural, so you’ve got to appeal to the urban dwellers, which he does. References to NYC doesn’t hurt! He’s direct enough in his lyrics but has enough so called poetry to appeal to those types. And I sense sincerity, even if his lyrics could, in my opinion, use significant editing. Sincerity goes a long way and I think he has the sincerity thing down as good as anybody at the moment.
September 27, 2023 @ 7:39 pm
Zach Bryan should feel zero pressure to ‘time’ his releases so that they do not coincide with some other critics’ darling, ESPECIALLY since their music can be streamed for free online that day. I don’t know if that was the intent of it being mentioned here, but if it was that is plain ridiculous. I will continue to criticize Zach Bryan but he should never come close to feeling bad about his level of success and how that might potentially overshadow other artists. (I would contend that is hardly happening since the core base of ZB fans will never leave the shallow end of the country music pool)
September 28, 2023 @ 1:15 am
…i guess, if the collaborations from “boys of faith” had been put on his self-titled album too, it would have been seen as a full collaborative effort, which would have made it harder to fully attribute it to him. not the best marketing shot ahead of his big stadium tour 2024. by dropping both records in quick succession, it rather looks like the typical way zach bryan releases his music – seemingly “randomly” and plentyful. frankly, i think it was the delightul “i remember everything” with its kacey musgraves magic that got his album flying in the first place and not the other way round. but that’s enough in the streaming age: once you are lead to the rabbit hole, you are likely to explore it further. greetings from tiktok. noah kahan’s vocals sound like scratching a blackboard, actually, a lot of times it feels more like a “mediocre vocalists’ moment” these days rather than a “nirvana moment”. having said that, charles wesley godwin sounds fine on his latest release.
September 28, 2023 @ 1:45 am
The idea that ZB “didn’t know” that CWG had an album coming out the same day is palpably nonsense.
This is his “friend” that he’s been touring with for months. I don’t know the reasons and I don’t want to speculate but taking that excuse paints Bryan in a very poor light. Add to that the arrest, the dating some Barstool Sports woman and claiming to want privacy….he’s not coming across as a great guy at the moment.
Country music is a tight knit community and doing things like this will alienate people pretty fast.
September 28, 2023 @ 5:29 pm
Why would he lie? He said they hardly ever talk about the music business. It seems like ZB’s EP came together in a week. I believe he didn’t call CWG and say “I’m just checking with you to make sure you aren’t releasing an album this week because I just banged out this EP I’d like to release tomorrow.”
Neither album is available in physical product, right? So they aren’t competing with anything but people’s time.
September 28, 2023 @ 5:56 pm
He is a documented lousy dude and seemingly doesn’t try to hide it in his songwriting
September 28, 2023 @ 5:55 am
While I’m sure it has some impact, I’m not convinced that Zach Bryan releasing his album the same day is the driving force behind what might be disappointing performance of “cat in the rain”. First, I don’t believe their is a huge overlap in their fanbases. I grant that this opinion is based on a small sample size of my kids and their friends who love Zach and never heard of Turnpike. Morgan Wallen tends to be there 2nd favorite artist. Second, while many disagree, “cat in the rain” was disappointing to a segment of their fanbase and really is lacking “that” song to bring in new listeners. This is just my opinion but this album appeals to the fans who rate the “Birdhunters” as Turnpike’s best song and is disappointing to fans who prefer “Every Girl” or “Devil knows your dead” or even “Good Lord Lorrie”. An album can be both solid and disappointing and I believe that’s what this one is. I believe the biggest mistake they made is not having that one song that says “we’re back”. That album needed two more songs that were uptempo and/or heavy fiddle based. An album where you have to study the lyrics to figure out what they are saying is not going to appeal to the masses.
September 28, 2023 @ 8:19 am
You nailed it. I love Cat In The Rain but it is missing 1 or 2 up tempo bangers that TT is known for. Every song is solid but would loved 2 more songs like Devil or The Mercury. Having said that, It’s still my fav album by a long shot this year.
September 28, 2023 @ 11:31 am
Yep.
There’s not a single bad song on the record.
There’s also not a single great song on the record…even as a big Bird Hunters fan.
September 28, 2023 @ 7:34 pm
I would say Mean Old Son and The Rut are great. Lucille and Brought Me aren’t far behind. Bird Hunters is still my all timer.
September 28, 2023 @ 9:39 am
Americana already mainstreamed in the 2010’s. Mumford & Songs, The Lumineers, The Avett Brothers. That was the “Nirvana moment,” if we want to call it that. Zach Bryan is more or less a continuation of this. It’s a smidge more country, but not enough to put it in a different category.
Country Radio is just late to the party. They are tasked with appealing to a new generation, who grew up listening to the artists listed above. So now you’re hearing that sound again. No, they didn’t do it willingly, but they are pretty much getting on board. Hopefully we get a bunch of Charles Wesley Godwins, but I feel like it’s more likely they will take this moment and ruin it with crappy Zach Bryan clones. Bailey Zimmerman’s singles kind of sound like that to me.
September 28, 2023 @ 9:50 am
I thought Boys of Faith was better than his newest album, which is my least favorite release of his to date.
September 28, 2023 @ 9:56 am
I don’t understand the complaints of artists releasing music on the same day as other artists. A few weeks ago I listened to Turnpike’s, Bryan’s, and OCMS’s album the same weekend. I did the same this past weekend with Bryan’s, CWG’s, and Brent Cobb’s albums.
I’m not having to decide which album I want to drop $15 at the store anymore. They are all there on Spotify. I think this aspect is being overblown.
September 28, 2023 @ 11:10 am
Well, I think for me, it’s not a money thing it’s more of a time thing. There’s just not enough time in many of our lives to give all these albums the proper amount of spins to try and digest them.. There’s only so many hours in a day to devote to listening to music. I’ve had to become more selective. Even more so with longer records.
September 28, 2023 @ 11:12 am
Because artists earn jack sh!t from streaming. Ane you may not buy albums, but other fans of independent artists do, and when one artist has a planned release and then another artist comes along and drops a “surprise release” on the same day, in the same genre, it’s a flat out dick-move.
If I never hear Zach Bryan’s name again, it will be far too soon. Dude is the most overhyped mediocre artist I can think of.
September 28, 2023 @ 11:38 am
There are like 25 albums released in the genre every week. So we all supposed to get on a waitlist to release music?
I’m sure it was also a dick move for ZB to bring CWG along for all those shows. I went to a small CWG show a year ago, and guess what, they were all ZB fans. Imagine that.
September 28, 2023 @ 11:46 am
People sometimes forget that Nirvana’s rise wasn’t out of thin air. There had been plenty of events that precipitated it – MTV playing and popularizing British post-punk throughout the ’80s, the advent of a Billboard “Modern Rock” chart in 1988, Alternative Rock becoming a commercial radio format starting 1990-ish, REM topping the pop charts in 1991 and the Lollapalooza tour the same year all primed people for Nirvana’s success, much in the same way the current moment in independent country also has plenty of antecedents.
September 28, 2023 @ 12:48 pm
I don’t understand why ZB has garnered so much popularity. Reading numerous reasons on why his success has and is occurring probably indicates not only the complexity of the answer but also that we are indeed in unchartered territory. Wouldn’t surprise me a bit if Music Row, LA, and NYC music executives are also struggling to understand the situation.
Some, if not a large portion, of his fans are treating him as a Messianic figure, which I haven’t seen attributed to musician in my lifetime, and I’m in my late 40s. The only other musicians that come to mind based on my reading of history is Elvis and the Beetles, which makes it all the more confounding to me.
Strange times.
September 28, 2023 @ 5:04 pm
If you’re in your 40s, Taylor Swift’s rise occurred in your lifetime.
Even this site has been here since Taylor got big…and the reaction has been identical.
First: “This is only three chords and the truth, it’s not country!!!”
Then: “It’s just three chords and the truth, it must be a fad!!!”
And finally: “There’s no way that any artist could be this successful with three chords and the truth, so clearly George Soros and the LIBERAL MEDIA have conspired with Illuminati to turn our babies gay with subliminal messages hidden in his songs!!!”
September 28, 2023 @ 12:54 pm
for me Brent Cobb’s “southern star” was that big release of the day. Still digesting CWG….
September 28, 2023 @ 2:31 pm
I haven’t seen much discussion about Emily Ann Roberts on country sites, but her new album is also worth a listen. I saw her in concert a few months ago.
September 28, 2023 @ 3:04 pm
I might have something on the Emily Ann Roberts album soon. Came out on an extremely busy release week, which goes back to my point about albums getting overshadowed. I often try to navigate that by highlighting important albums before the big ones, or highlighting albums after the big release week when stuff has died down a bit.
September 28, 2023 @ 3:41 pm
Yes, there was an avalanche of releases that day. I’m also looking forward to the Country Side of Harmonica Sam album tomorrow. When I saw Jake Penrod at Gruene Hall, he mentioned that their album includes a couple of songs he wrote.
September 29, 2023 @ 8:02 am
If Zach Bryan is Nirvana, then I think Turnpike is more in the vein of artists like Pixies, who were leading the vanguard of American guitar based rock, built a sizable but not huge following , but never could make the leap to mainstream success even though Kurt Cobain admittedly was ripping off their sound on much of “Nevermind”.
Furthering the comparison, Pixies final album “Trompe Le Monde” was actually released the same day as Nevermind and somehow feels like it belongs to a different era.
Ultimately, I think the key difference is that Frank Black was very much a capital A artist with how he wrote lyrics and presented the band visually; while Cobain was raw about his personal turmoil in a way that Gen X youth beyond music geeks could relate to.
I love Turkpike, but their songs definitely reflect a world that I think younger (teens/early 20s) listeners don’t really relate to.
September 29, 2023 @ 4:10 pm
Trig!! Noah kahan is incredible and I highly recommend listening to his most recent album
It’s amazing and easily one of the best albums I have ever heard
There is not a single song that I skip on that album
I actually like the Bon Iver song but can see why people don’t
Deep satin is imo one of Zach’s best songs along with Oklahoma smokeshow
Nine ball is cool and sounds a lot like super 8 (Jason Isbell)
I just wish he’d release more stuff like Oklahoma smoke show or From Austin that’s more studio produced and sounds a lot cleaner