Jerrod Niemann Is No Willie or Waylon (A History Lesson)
Tuesday was the release of Jerrod Niemann’s dumb new album High Noon, and before we’ve even had a chance to really delve into just how much of a mockery it makes of country music, Niemann’s already out there on the defensive, preaching to us how country “purists” really don’t know what the hell country music is all about, and how he’s just carrying on the traditions of Willie and Waylon by pushing the boundaries of the genre.
High Noon‘s first single “Drink To That All Night” drove country more in the direction of EDM than ever before, to the point where I’m not sure what’s country about it aside from the stupid, formulaic, country stereotyping lyrics. The second single from the album called “Donkey” promises to take this trend to a place many shades worse, and very well might go down as the worst song in the history of country music in this bear’s opinion—but that’s another story. A further perusing of High Noon‘s wares shows a lackluster effort of EDM and hip hop pandering veering towards a pop wasteland with little redeeming value afforded to distressed ears searching for any single reason why it shouldn’t be considered any more than some EDM/country mashup side project instead of a premier solo effort from an established country artist.
But that hasn’t stooped Jerrod Niemann from naming himself amidst country music’s Outlaw pioneers.
“When people think about country music, and they use the term ‘Traditional Country,’ they’re talking about something that has happened in the past,” Niemann tells Billboard. “But, when those songs were out currently, they were the freshest thing on the radio. Nobody was saying ‘Let’s go record traditional country.’ They just wanted to record music that meant something to them. Willie and Waylon were getting flack for being progressive at the time because they were mixing it with rock and the outlaw thing.”
Sorry Niemann, but that’s bullshit. Were there some voices saying that Willie and Waylon were pushing the boundaries of country music too far back in the day? Sure there were, and Saving Country Music has pointed this out before as well. But…
1) This had just as much to do with the fear people had of Willie and Waylon because they were shaking up the established Music Row system as it had anything to do with their music.
2) Willie & Waylon’s new take on country music was nowhere near outside the boundaries of country compared to what some artists are doing today. The musical equivalent to High Noon if Willie and Waylon would have done it would have been to cut straight up Disco records with country lyricism and called it country—and then thrown it back into the faces of critics before they even had a chance to raise a peep because Hank Williams was criticized too.
3) Oh an sorry Jerrod, but yes, Waylon and Willie did say, “Let’s go record traditional country.”
For example: What was Willie Nelson’s breakout album during the mid 70’s Outlaw era? Red Headed Stranger—the consensus pick by critics as the greatest country album of all time. What was the biggest single off of Red Headed Stranger, and really the only single of note from the album? It was a song called “Blue Eyes Crying in the Rain.”
“Blue Eyes Crying in the Rain” was a traditional country standard when Willie cut it. The song was written by Fred Rose, originally recorded by Roy Acuff in 1945—30 years before the release of Red Headed Stranger. It was also cut by Hank Williams in 1951, Ferlin Husky and Slim Whitman in 1959, and Bill Anderson in 1962 among others. Red Headed Stranger also had other classic country songs such as Eddy Arnold’s “I Couldn’t Believe It Was True” and a hymn called “Just As I Am” that get this Jerrod Niemann, was written in 1835, making it over 140 years old when Willie cut it. So saying that Willie didn’t say, “‘Let’s go record traditional country,” is completely bogus. One can make the argument that’s exactly what Willie said, and it resulted in arguably country music’s greatest contemporary work.
Meanwhile Waylon may have had a touch more rock in his sound compared to Willie or his other country artists of the time, but the backbone of his music was the steel guitar of country veteran Ralph Mooney, and Waylon was cutting songs like “Are You Sure Hank Done It This Way?” and “Bob Wills Is Still The King” that paid homage to traditional country greats. Then take a look at the lineup of The Dripping Springs Reunion—the gathering that arguably put the power of Willie and Waylon on the map. It included Bill Monroe, Buck Owens, Loretta Lynn, and other aging country greats that at the time were being forgotten by Music Row. Even as Willie and Waylon were rising in prominence, they were paying homage to the ones that came before them.
“I’ve always tried to respectfully add a few elements here and there,” Niemann tells Billboard. Are you kidding me? “Drink To That All Night,” Donkey,” and other offerings from Niemann’s High Noon aren’t respectful to anything but his label’s bottom line. Take a look at this video and tell me the non-country elements are just “here and there”:
The problem with Jerrod Niemann, the reason he’s even worse than many of his current pop country cohorts is because he knows better. I have no doubt Florida Georgia Line grew up listening to mixtapes with Hank Williams Jr. on one side, and Drake on the other. To Taylor Swift, Tim McGraw and Shania Twain are classic country. But Jerrod Niemann is 34-years-old. He’s not trying to push limits, this is last ditch effort to get attention from the industry in a no hold’s barred, sellout move to secure his share of the fortune being made off the destruction of country music. And no matter how much he wants to be in front of this issue, how much he preaches falsehoods about how country music once was, he’s simply a sellout in a woman’s Ross Dress For Less discount bin hat—and certainly no progeny of Willie or Waylon.
Rex
March 25, 2014 @ 3:53 pm
Don’t care for his newer stuff,but I’ve always enjoyed this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q0LE3gtUn8&feature=kp
Spoony
March 25, 2014 @ 6:58 pm
A pop cover of a 1992 pop song. Mmmkay. Niemann has had traditional writing credos, that song, and apparently this album are very insulting when I consider that.
Mike
March 25, 2014 @ 3:54 pm
I was expecting more of a reaction to the song ‘Donkey’. I heard it for the first time on the radio this weekend and I almost threw up. Or is there possibly a rant lined up for it?
Trigger
March 25, 2014 @ 4:09 pm
“Donkey” will be dealt with accordingly in due course.
BrettS
March 25, 2014 @ 4:48 pm
Oh my lord that would be an epic rant!!! Can’t wait for it if it happens. Sad thing is early on Jerrod showed a little promise. But, this is the definition of a sell out. What a damn joke. Probably just trying to make a scene as well to get some attention. Not saying that’s all of it but I bet it’s part of what’s going on with him.
Noah Eaton
March 25, 2014 @ 7:49 pm
“Gonna hawk a loogie-loogie, right on that loony-tuney, gonna drive fan zombies fumey-fumey…” 😉
goldencountry
March 27, 2014 @ 10:49 am
How appropriate a jack ass as record a song called donkey.
aada
March 30, 2014 @ 5:50 pm
Let’s be honest, Jerrod: you wrote “Donkey” with the giddy thought that Ke$ha was going to pick it up and you’d rake in lots of cash. When she said it was crap, even for her, you decided to use this Ke$ha reject for yourself. Nice job…
eric strickland
March 25, 2014 @ 3:54 pm
Couldn’t make it through more than a few seconds of this garbage. Damn! Bout all I got to say about that!
Applejack
March 25, 2014 @ 8:44 pm
Eric Strickland and Jerrod Neimman are both “bad for you,” though in very different ways.
Ryan
March 25, 2014 @ 3:55 pm
I was kind of impressed with his first radio success a couple of years ago. I was actually looking forward to his new album. To say this was disappointing is an understatement. I know it wasnt exactly country, but I thought he showed promise early on. This new crap is just a major letdown.
gtrman86
March 25, 2014 @ 4:01 pm
Well put, just another of the current roster of Douche Bags! This fucktard wouldn’t know a Country song if it beat the snot out of him over and over again. What’s really incredible is the ignorance these artists have for Willie, and Waylon, it’s quite apparent they are just names they throw out to try seem like the real deal. Tough shit, maybe the 12 and 13 year old fans that buy their records buy into the bullshit but any Country music lover is going to see right through it! And the proof is in the music.
Mark M
March 26, 2014 @ 7:44 am
As other people have said, he’s had quite a bit of decent songs in singing and writing credits in the past few years.
But it wasn’t making him big enough so he pulled a Luke Bryan and let his label penetrate his music in order to make it more poppy, crappy, and soulless.. AKA “Radio friendly”.
Like Trigger said, its worse because we know this isn’t who he really is. You can literally SEE the point in time that he sold out.
T
March 25, 2014 @ 4:18 pm
That’s just an atrocious song,
There is nothing remotely country about that song. Not even the lifted up douchebag truck that’s in the video.
the pistolero
March 25, 2014 @ 4:25 pm
Very, very well put.
This was another comment from Niemann that bothered me:
“When people think about country music, and they use the term ”˜Traditional Country,”™ they”™re talking about something that has happened in the past.”
Really? Where does he get off with this crap? We”™re talking about the likes of Jason Boland and George Strait just as much as we are Merle Haggard and Buck Owens. That just strikes me as incredibly disingenuous of him, and it”™s quite the commentary on how weak his argument is. Of course innovation is good no matter the genre, but when you discard pretty much everything but certain subject matter and replace it with elements from other genres, what you end up with is something entirely different.
Noah Eaton
March 25, 2014 @ 7:51 pm
The “country” equivalent of brokenCYDE or the Insane Clown Posse will make the exact same excuse/retort when they attempt to become the next breakout success on airwaves………and I fully expect Roughstock and Taste of Country to praise them as innovative and game-changing! -__-
Melanie
March 29, 2014 @ 8:32 am
IMO, traditional country is a sound, not the age of the music. Remember all the country pop which came out in the Seventies? Then Randy Travis, Dwight Yokum, and others came along with was called “neo-traditional”. It was new music, topical lyrics, and sonically fresh, but a recognisably “country” sound from the first note. They proved that country could be fresh and new and still respect all the traditions of what makes country, sound like country.
So many have done the same thing, over and over, and every time it was new, catchy, different, but undoubtedly country, as historically recognised. Emmylou Harris, Ricky Skaggs, etc,
Apropos of nothing, I’m currently enamored of a song called “Hurricane” sung by Leon Everette. Does anyone know anything about him? I love this song, and it’s getting close to the time of year in my neck of the woods to where this song will be very relevant 🙂
Question-what happened to all the great brother harmonic duets, like the Louvin Brothers? Don’t any talented brothers sing together anymore, making that gorgeous harmony that it seems nobody does better than family members who grew up singing together? The last “brother act” I remember are the Bellamy Brothers, and they weren’t exactly what I mean.
Trigger
March 29, 2014 @ 8:34 am
Check out The Cactus Blossoms.
Melanie
March 29, 2014 @ 8:56 am
Will do, thank you.
Sonas
March 30, 2014 @ 10:34 pm
Well, actually he is correct in a way. Traditional has to do with being rooted in the past. However, a more acceptable definition of tradition is, as it is used in most cases, means timeless. It is true that music has always been progressive and have always evolved. However, these evolution added depth and creativity. It bettered the genre. In every genre of music there are few artist that are gifted with the capacity to successfully add and deepened their particular genre. Michael Jackson put a new spin on soul and went from an R&B artist to an overnight pop phenomenon. Hank Williams added something to country that had pop singers throughout the country recording his songs. But it is important to note that both artist did so effortlessly. They did not consort with some big businesses in some attempt to make more money. They simply shared their take on music, and the result was that they left an indelible mark not only on their genre, but the world. Most artist are simply not gifted with that kind of musical genius. That is why in most genre of music, the majority of the artist just simply follow suit. This so called crossing over or progressive music we are witnessing, lacks creativity and depth because it is being attempted by people who simply do not possess the creative genus to change their genre. Their talent talent does not go beyond following a suit.
James
March 25, 2014 @ 4:25 pm
It’s this sort of stuff that makes you really get a sense of how far things have fallen in the last 3-4 years. Compare this song to “Lover Lover”, or I was thinking about Tim McGraw earlier, compare “Southern Girl” and “Looking for That Girl” to even “Felt Good on My Lips” or “Still”. I mean things have really taken a rapid turn for the worse in the last 3-4 years. It just blows my mind.
I don’t know about you guys, but Taylor Swift is pure gold compared to crap like this.
Eric
March 25, 2014 @ 9:00 pm
The songs from Taylor’s first album, such as “Tim McGraw”, “Teardrops on My Guitar”, or “Our Song”, can already be considered as “classic country”.
In due time, “Love Story” and “You Belong with Me” will be classified as classic country as well.
Tom
March 26, 2014 @ 10:36 am
I agree. I’m hardly a Rascal Flatts fan, but yesterday on the way to work when “Rewind” came on the radio right after the fecal matter that calls itself the current FGL/Luke Bryan hit, I actually caught myself saying “Now THIS is more like it.”
Acca Dacca
March 27, 2014 @ 8:53 pm
I actually laughed out loud at this. I might be in the minority, here, but I’ve never been all that bugged by Rascal Flatts. Sure, they’ve never really been country, but their music was never bad, either, with the exception of a song or two. As far as I’m concerned, they have one of the hands-down best cancer songs in “Skin (Sarabeth).” That song makes me tear up every time I hear it and had a much bigger effect on me than Jason Isbell’s “Elephant” ever will.
Tom
March 28, 2014 @ 6:46 am
I don’t really consider myself “anti” Rascal Flatts; as you say, there are many worse alternatives out there today both in terms of song quality and level of “countryness.” And they have had some good (if not all that country) tunes, “Skin” also gets to me every time I hear it, and I personally like their version of “Life Is A Highway” better than Tom Cochran’s. I also find them somewhat enigmatic; “Prayin’ for Daylight” is a decent song for the most part, but the a cappela intro – “I can’t stand another lonely night, Oooo-wooo-wooo-wooo!” – makes me want to drive my car over a cliff every time.
But other than a handful of tunes that I like, most of the time I would typically hit the “seek” button if a Rascal Flatts song came on the radio, so the fact that I was digging on one of their more mediocre tunes sort of exemplified to me how bad some of the music on the radio has gotten these days.
Dexter
August 16, 2021 @ 9:31 pm
I used to hate Kenny Chesney. Now he’s nearly a god to me in comparison to this shit.
Acca Dacca
March 27, 2014 @ 8:50 pm
That’s always how I’ve felt about country music. Until about that time, it had never occurred to me how far the genre had fallen into the gutter because I still enjoyed listening to the radio. As far as I’m concerned, the music was still country until about 2008. I really liked “Still” and “Felt Good on My Lips” was a fun country pop song. Both were still more country than pop, so I consider them part of the genre. It’s quite amazing how fast the steel guitar and fiddles were replaced with hip hop beats and rapping. You’re right about Taylor Swift being better than this. Taylor’s music is just annoying; this stuff is pure garbage.
Clint
March 28, 2014 @ 11:05 am
2008? I’ve been cussing the radio since around 1997. And I guess I wasn’t the only one since Larry Cordle released “Murder On Music Row” in 1999. You must be young or just have a really high tolerance.
Acca Dacca
March 28, 2014 @ 4:05 pm
2008? I”™ve been cussing the radio since around 1997. And I guess I wasn”™t the only one since Larry Cordle released “Murder On Music Row” in 1999. You must be young or just have a really high tolerance.
It’s a little of both. I’m in my early 20s, but I’m also a lot less harsh with the “is it country?” debate than most of the commenters on this site. Obviously, a person’s age helps to inform their tastes, but I’m a regular reader of this site so I hope that gives my opinion enough credence that it won’t be discounted just because I was raised on 90s country instead of 60s country.
When it comes right down to it, I find music, movies and the like to be entertainment first and art second. Perhaps my thinking is flawed, but the general point of most of it is to give people an experience. The nature of that experience is what separates the art from the pure entertainment material. I have absolutely no problem with artists that cut songs that are purely meant to be good time music, but there’s a difference when they call it something that it’s not (such as FGL rapping over rock guitars and calling it country). And as Trigger says, theres a tasteful way to blend genres and a unsubtle, cash-grab way to blend genres. Until about 2008, the music on the radio was still heavily featured acoustics, steel guitar, banjos and fiddles. They weren’t as prevalent as in the past and were in steady decline, but the music still struck me as more country than pop. Take Toby Keith’s “As Good As I Once Was” from 2005. That song starts out with one of the hardest honky tonk riffs in existence and nobody is going to ever convince me that the song isn’t country, even if the man who made it eventually cut “Red Solo Cup.” And speaking of that song, that is country as well. That doesn’t make it good, however, and I feel like many country fans like to cry foul at a songs genre legitimacy based on its quality as opposed to aesthetic, as if to divorce it from the music they DO like. I don’t have that problem.
I’m neither a traditionalist nor a modernist. In my opinion, both sides are heavily flawed in their opinions and are pathetically reactionary, particularly the former. With traditionalists, the pure and simple fact of the matter is that no two of them can seem to agree. You quit listening to radio in 1997, but everyone else has a different story for when country radio went band, even me. There’s even one commenter on this site that claimed “everything since 1980” was pop (keep in mind that this timeline includes “A Country Boy Can Survive,” “He Stopped Loving Her Today,” and everything Johnny Cash cut with Rick Rubin as well as Hank3’s records). On the other side of the spectrum, I don’t think that the “country music must evolve” argument has much sand, but at least the majority of the side can agree on what they believe. I also feel that traditionalists can be overly biased to the point of making claims about the quality of a song based more on its source than the song itself. If it’s on the radio it HAS to be bad, right? Wrong. This applies to narrow-minded modernists as well that hear a big dose of REAL country and immediately backpedal, or hear a little static from an older recording and recoil in disgust. That said, I’ve found more than a few modern music listeners that, having sat them down and FORCED them to listen to some of the older material, have come to appreciate some older country music. Try that with a traditionalist and no matter HOW good the song is, it will always be crap. It’s easy to claim that this is because the older music is “better,” but just because a song is poppy doesn’t make it bad. Take Big & Rich’s “8th of November”, for instance. That, to me, is one of the greatest country songs of all time and there’s little surprise in my mind that it was nominated for a Grammy in an all-genre category in 2006. That said, there are plenty of traditionalist fans that would write the song off simply because it’s by Big & Rich. That, to me, is unbelievably ignorant. I also don’t like how the popular wisdom is “praise the past, criticize the present.” I’ll admit that I do this sometimes as well, but a lot of times it just doesn’t make sense to me. The “past” keeps moving; now we have a segment of the country music population longing for the days that Garth Brooks ruled the radio, when back in the day, many of these same people were criticizing him.
Trust me, I’m probably younger than most of the readers of this site and do not pick sides, but believe me when I say that I want my music to be country. I picked up the new Johnny Cash and Don Williams records the other day in addition to reaping several Hank Jr. albums from the bargain bin at Walmart. The difference is I can stomach a little pop mixed in as long as the basis is country. Up until the last few years, this had always been the case, no matter when “Murder on Music Row” was released. Plus, that song seemed to be just as much about record labels residing over their talent with an iron fist and bottlenecking the material as much as it was the SOUND of the material. Heck, Willie and Waylon could have cut that song in response to the opposition THEY faced, and most of the material from that period is considered “classic country” at this point. I LOVED the country music that was being put out in 2006-2007, with certain exceptions like Taylor Swift, of course.
Melanie
March 29, 2014 @ 8:53 am
I think perhaps one difference is that your younger guinea pigs like pop music, or they wouldn’t listen to country pop, or pop country, or whatever it is. Perhaps your older guinea pigs just don’t like pop, they like their country straight, no chaser, and nothimg can give them a taste (or tolerance, if you will) for pop music. I’m one of those old fogies who was resigned to listening to classic country and had just written off anything newer than, say, Randy Travis (for example, you know what I mean). Shania and that bunch left me cold.
Then, while mourning the demise of country music, I came across this site and discovered Sturgill Simpson, the Church Sisters, and other newer artists who have the recognisabke traditional sound of country/bluegrass, while at the same time being new and fresh. Proving that you don’t have to destroy country music to save it.
Acca Dacca
March 28, 2014 @ 4:09 pm
I trailed off a bit at the beginning before finishing my initial point: to me, these art forms are entertainment first and art second. I judge whether something is entertaining before I consider whether it is art or not. For instance, I love Big & Rich. I think that they make fun music. On the flip side, they also make a lot of great, REAL country songs that have never been released to radio. But even if they didn’t, I’d still like their music because it brings me joy. That, in essence, is the point of art.
Acca Dacca
March 28, 2014 @ 4:21 pm
Also, I don’t think that it’s a crime to enjoy entertainment from your own lifetime, regardless of quality. A lot of country music fans love to criticize the younger generations that are fans of these new artists as if they don’t know what they’re missing. That may more may not be true, but that would be like the adults of your generation telling YOU that everything that means something to you sucks because it wasn’t made before 1930 (or whenever). And yes, many of them did that. The thing is, most people will just naturally bond with what they experience, and most of what they experience is created or currently utilized during their lifetime. I like CDs and no, I don’t think that vinyl is better. I personally don’t think that vinyls can or ever have, for that matter, sounded better than a well-produced CD (ones that are butchered by the loudness war are another story). Part of this is because I grew up in the age of CDs, and the rest is simply my opinion. That said, I have a fondess for the sound of cassette, which I was also exposed regularly to when I was younger, so I understand why many people still prefer records. Do you see what I mean?
Powderfinger
March 25, 2014 @ 4:36 pm
This whole “pushing boundaries” and “evolution of the sound” argument is becoming the stock retort for these guys. You don’t have to abandon tradition completely to evolve musically. Hey Jerrod — see one Sturgill Simpson. One of the poster children for staying true to tradition while making it modern at the same time. Actually, that’s probably a bad example. . .Sturgill is a real musician.
Noah Eaton
March 25, 2014 @ 8:05 pm
We’re nearing the point where those who grew up on “post-grunge” and, shortly after, “nu-metal” are going to start running the roost………..and I am most eagerly awaiting their contributions to the format! (sarcastic eye roll) 😉
When going to high school, Korn and Limp Bizkit were what all of my classmates were listening to. It was quite traumatizing. We can probably expect Chester Bennington-esque yells (albeit with artificially designed Southern accents) and Jonathan Davis-esque sinister-sounding “talking” (again, with a contrived Southern accent) matched up to electronic-tinged generic “metal” riffs with singular verses designated for rap-like deliveries………..of course with a token banjo most barely heard in the mix! -__-
Eric
March 25, 2014 @ 9:03 pm
I think we are already at the stage where those who grew up on hip-hop and techno are coming to dominate country music. That demographic (we are talking about my generation, unfortunately) already dominates the target audience for new mainstream country music.
Applejack
March 25, 2014 @ 9:36 pm
Targeting country radio exclusively to a youthful demo that dosen’t tend to listen to the radio sure seems like a bad business model. But I’m sure our glorious leaders at Clear Channel Communications know what they’re doing…right?
As for Korn-country, yes I’m sure that is coming, since a lot of the people who enjoy bad rock/rap music have migrated into the country fold. The death of rock radio has been bad for mainstream country, or so it seems.
Acca Dacca
March 27, 2014 @ 8:55 pm
Is it bad if I like Creed and still consider myself an intelligent country music fan? 😉
Acca Dacca
March 27, 2014 @ 8:56 pm
I will say, though, that Limp Bizkit and Korn are a tad stupid. I’ll argue Creed with anyone. They aren’t Led Zeppelin, but they sure aren’t horrible, either.
Noah Eaton
March 27, 2014 @ 11:32 pm
Scott Stapp got on my nerves as a frontman, but their music I felt didn’t deserve nearly as much scorn as it did.
At least they sounded earnest, and Stapp had a commanding sort of vocal that, while limited, could still evoke emotional force. Plus, I’ll admit that Mark Tremonti can be a rather intriguing guitarist, who has only gotten better with Alter Bridge.
I can make a case in defending Creed. Korn and Limp Bizkit, not so much! 😉
Acca Dacca
March 28, 2014 @ 3:07 pm
I feel the same way. You’d think after almost 20 years the hate would have died off a bit, but it’s very much alive, just beneath the surface, more due to the fact that the band hasn’t really been active than anything else. I agree about Stapp: back in the day, he was an ass. But this week my girlfriend and I went to see a solo concert of his in Lawrence, Kansas and it was fantastic. We also ambushed him after the show and he didn’t hesitate to sign my CDs, book and take a picture. He was extremely nice and I even held a brief conversation with him. So, I think that he’s turned over a new leaf. I can’t spread the word about that enough. He isn’t country music, but I’ve been mentioning him a lot on this site recently because others will make a subtle reference. The concert was really powerful and I can’t stop thinking about how good it was. And speaking of the hate, there were concertgoers that paid money just to mock the guy. There were only two or three as far as I could tell, but the audacity of those guys was still shocking (and the fact that they would waste money just to try and tear someone else down).
If you like Alter Bridge, you ought to try out Stapp’s new solo album Proof of Life. It’s actually really good and doesn’t sound like Creed at all for the most part. It’s more poppy and reminded me of a combination of Casting Crowns and U2 (and speaking of country music, some fool compared it to such on his iTunes review). As for Alter Bridge, I like the band, but Myles Kennedy has an annoying voice that sounds as if he is about to start crying every time he says a word. He has an amazing range but he needs to tone down the whine. I also don’t think that his lyrics are as good as Stapp’s, though you’re right about Tremonti and the rest of the band having grown since their time in Creed. The riffs on Fortress are unbelievable. They’re so good, in fact, that it makes me wish even more that Creed hadn’t had their initial falling out so that that music could have been used for older band with Scott. Speaking of which, they did cut a new record in 2009 called Full Circle. It wasn’t really hyped by the record label and didn’t have a true radio hit, so it more or less sank without a trace. I think the reason for this is because it’s the hardest Creed has ever sounded on record; it’s almost metallic in its intensity. If you haven’t already, check it out.
Acca Dacca
April 14, 2014 @ 2:12 pm
You know, I read your comment when it was posted and I’ve been turning it over in my mind since. Just so you’re aware, I own Sturgill’s debut High Top Mountain and have his followup Metamodern Sounds in Country Music pre-ordered, so take what I’m saying here with a hint of salt. But when it comes right down to it, Sturgill’s music doesn’t strike me as all that “modern” at all. In fact, there are more than a few moments on his first album that reminded me of a Waylon tribute album with the sound and I’m sure that it could have been released in that era to major fanfare. You might say that’s because it’s “real” country music, but Waylon’s outlaw era material sounds nothing like country music from the 50s. It was “modern” for the time and didn’t sound like it was made years before. High Top Mountains a good album, don’t get me wrong, but I just don’t hear much of anything “modern” in the sound or lyrics. Everyone talked up the album so much when it was released I guess I was expecting to be blown away, but it ended up just striking me as a solid traditional album, not the end-all be-all modern work that every artist should mimic. Of course, I don’t profess to be the most astute music fan out there and I’m also not as biased against pop country (as long as it’s at least somewhat substantial with its lyrics or music) as the others on this site.
ScottTDogg
March 25, 2014 @ 4:40 pm
I just hope that as these Douchbag “country” singers make reference to the greats such as Willy and Waylon, or any other truly great country artist from the past, that their “fans” dig deep into the great songs created by those truely great artists of the past. Perhaps it will light a candle in some of their souls like it does for do many if us and they will appreciate what the artists of the past have created. I would like to believe maybe it can help to turn this mono-genre thing around and create a new audience for traditional country.
Jimmy
March 25, 2014 @ 5:19 pm
I recently found this site after turning off Country radio after only listening to Country music my whole life.I have been sickened the past seven or eight years and kept holding out hope that something would change.After all this time I have finally come to the realization that it isn’t gonna change because there are so many people out there that believe this is the greatest thing since sliced bread.I am a 39 year old musician who finds himself in a weird spot,I refuse to play this mess and it has cost me friendships and dollars because I will not play it or sing it.I’m thankful that I live near Dallas and have the Texas Country music or Americana whatever you wanna call it to fall back on.I have made a decision to turn my back completely on Nashville Labels and artists that show support for this kind of mess and spend my dollars on the Artists and Labels who hold the same values as I do.I believe this is the only way we may ever see change and have any real country music back on the radio..
Trigger
March 25, 2014 @ 8:07 pm
Well I’m glad you found the site.
Despite all of this, I still have faith we can turn things around. I thought there were some very positive signs in the second half of 2013. Unfortunately the beginning of this year has been very rocky.
Acca Dacca
March 27, 2014 @ 8:58 pm
How has it cost you friends, if you don’t mind me asking? Were you in a band?
Ranger
March 25, 2014 @ 5:23 pm
Haha….I can’t take this video seriously enough to get angry about it.
Scotty J
March 25, 2014 @ 5:40 pm
“Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt”
The0ne
March 25, 2014 @ 7:27 pm
I think a big difference when comparing “modern” music is that the people making it are more exposed to varying different forms. And it goes without saying that some forms will be dismissed as pure garbage especially if they get blended with “country”. I know plenty of people that consider Punk and heavy metal just pure trash but if Hank 3 blends them it”™s pure genius and not subject of a rant. Today”™s ears are in the present. Time does have a way of determining history. Waylon and Willie of course paid homage to what everyone would consider traditional but if I play someone who could care less about country music a song by George Strait or Alan Jackson and then follow it up with Willie or Waylon and then Hank 3 or god forbid Shooter Jennings, they may pick out that it all has some country to it but which one would be Traditional or pushing boundaries. If this same person decided they liked one of the sounds and began listening a little more would I be doing my part to help save Country Music?
And well were on this subject I saw this coming out: ”˜Fenixon”™ an experimental industrial album by Waylon and Shooter from 1996. Will Waylon be the subject of a rant for going so far from “tradition”?
Trigger
March 25, 2014 @ 7:58 pm
You’re trying to combine two completely different subjects in a non-linear fashion. Okay, I understand. You’re trying to paint me as a hypocrite for criticizing Jerrod Niemann for combining EDM and country and not being traditional, but sparing Hank3 and his combination of punk and country. I have said many times, even with country rap, that there’s nothing inherently wrong with mixing genre influences, as long as it is done with respect for both artforms, and done with quality. The specific issue that was broached in this specific article was dispelling Jerrod Niemann’s assertion that what he’s doing today is akin to what Willie & Waylon were doing 30 years ago, and that Willie & Waylon had no desire to play traditional country.
The horrifically dated and outmoded perspective that Saving Country Music is a homer blog for Hank3, or ever promoted or condoned any of his punk material is not germane to this topic whatsoever.
As for ”˜Fenixon”™ I’ll have to learn more on the subject before I make any sort of decision of how I feel about it, and what my thoughts are on it are should not be assumed.
The0ne
March 25, 2014 @ 8:35 pm
I am in no way a Jerrod Niemann homer, but I do like to see topics from different angles. Jerrod also said “Those guys were just doing what they wanted to do creatively. It’s such a bizarre argument because all those things were fresh back then.” You can call Bull shit all day but if he believes he is being creative in his own way then there are similarities. As far as his statement “Nobody was saying ”˜Let”™s go record traditional country.” Bolding it to stand out as if that was truly what was meant while the next sentence reads “They just wanted to record music that meant something to them.” Probably holds just as much truth. Think about it! When I read that I interpreted it as they did not set out to make music that fit a mold they did what they wanted.
As far as the Hank 3 thing goes I don”™t like Punk and because of saving country music I was exposed to him and subsequently his metal and punk stuff. I use him as an example not to try to cast you as a homer but simply out of my ignorance of anyone else who mixed country with punk, I do not know enough about punk to know whether or not he does it with quality or with respect.
Trigger
March 25, 2014 @ 10:44 pm
Yeah, but is there really any question about Jerrod Niemann’s intentions here? If there was anything that alluded to him being some big EDM nerd whose been waiting for years to go in this direction, that would be one thing. But this is so clearly trend chasing. I don’t know if there’s ever been a more obvious case of trend chasing this side of Luke Bryan. So in the end anything he’s saying is just rhetoric.
Noah Eaton
March 25, 2014 @ 11:24 pm
Simply put:
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1) “Free The Music” (oh, how I’m tempted to pick apart the irony of that title! 😉 ) marked a sophomore slump for Niemann following two of his first three singles going Top Three: with its lead single “Shinin’ On Me” peaking below all three singles from his debut LP and the album only selling about 8,000 copies its opening week.
2) Having cried a river realizing in order to purchase more gold necklaces he’ll need more money, he decided to tack a world map on his dartboard, with each continent representing one of the most obvious trends in current music, and wherever his three darts landed would resemble the three trends he’d most milk for all they’re worth.
3) Incidentally, the three darts landed on EDM, “country-rap” and “frat-country”.
4) He sought out writing sessions by committee with second-rate pop and rap songwriters, then turned to second-rate “country” songwriters willing to kill to achieve the Peach Pickers’ scope of notoriety to distill what the second-rate pop and rap songwriters wrote with him to make them easy-listening enough for soccer-moms.
5) Finally, he sought out a hot-shot rap music video producer to conceptualize the video for his lead single. Because when your music is predominantly easy-listening, the videos do the trick to attempt to make them stand out above other easy listening.
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Problem solved! 😉
The0ne
March 26, 2014 @ 10:45 am
So are you angry because he brought up the names Willie and Waylon? Or are you mad that the music he put out is not to your standards? Am not sure the trend chasing completely applies to Niemann it seems with each album he releases he does something farther away from “traditional” country, but still within scope of what people should expect from him. Am not so full of myself that I would begin to assume what musical influences someone has that end up coming through in what they record.
Trigger
March 26, 2014 @ 11:40 am
Just because something isn’t traditional country, doesn’t mean it’s bad, just like just because something is traditional country doesn’t mean it’s good. Jerrod Niemann’s new music would be bad no matter how it was labeled, or where it was released. If I was an EDM fan, I would hate it even worse. I think you’re trying to read too much into this subject.
Fayettenam Brad
March 26, 2014 @ 1:13 pm
Ya know, without trying to pass as a music snob, it all comes down to this….there is good music and shitty music. Not everyone likes all styles of music, but most people who like good music appreciate artistic effort and creativity. I happen to like old Detroit techno, I like the Sex Pistols, I saw Jamey Johnson 3 times last year and Hank3 once. This song sucks in every way. I can assure you it won’t attract techno fans, it is amazing that this homogenous tripe keeps being released! Granted it would be under my radar if not for this blog, but hey, it makes me appreciate better things that much more.
the pistolero
March 26, 2014 @ 1:37 pm
Not everyone likes all styles of music, but most people who like good music appreciate artistic effort and creativity
Well said, FB. There are some things that are just going to suck as music, period. This song is one of them. Chase Rice’s “Ready Set Roll” is another.
Brian
March 25, 2014 @ 7:28 pm
The bad thing is he can write good songs. He had a bunch of co-writes on one of these last Garth albums and they were very country songs. This stuff is terrible right here.
Noah Eaton
March 25, 2014 @ 7:57 pm
Fully agreed.
His first album was imperfect surely, but it was an above-average mainstream album to my ears with tracks like “Bakersfield”, “They Should Have Named You Cocaine” and “For Everclear”.
Even his sophomore album, while most faintly “country” in any way, shape or form, was at least interesting and left-of-field for an album of any genre. I quite enjoyed “Fraction Of A Man” and “Guessing Games” most notably from that record, although it had a few clunkers in the form of “Real Women Drink Beer” and “Only God Could Love You More”.
But this…………….how could “High Noon” NOT be classified as a stone-cold sellout? We get it. Niemann felt the sting of the sophomore slump and, between trying to cut his teeth as an artist and chasing instantly-gratifying fame and short-term return, he chose the latter. I’m just astonished as to how aggressively he has sold out here.
Applejack
March 25, 2014 @ 8:58 pm
Good article. I agreed on all three points. Of course Jerrod Neimann’s argument reminds me of Keith Urban’s bit about the countrypolitan sound, which he repeats ad-nauseum. What Neimann is doing simply isn’t comparable to the Outlaw era in any way, either in quality or country content, and I think anyone with a pair of ears can discern that.
Come on Jerrod, go listen to “Wanted! The Outlaws,” the most obvious artifact from that era. Willie and Waylon’s material on that album is quite country, both musically and thematically. Sure, there’s a little spice and variety, but that’s expected. Arguably, in many ways, what Willie and Waylon did at their best was more true to country’s roots than the country-pop styles that preceded them.
These comments from the likes of Neimann and Urban are relativistic, in that they try to point to a time in music history where some type of change occured, and use that as leverage to say all types of changes are acceptable, no matter what kind or to what degree.
The outlaw county era was great. I was listening to Waylon’s “Dreaming My Dreams” album today and it is such an excellent album, and totally country too. It starts with shout outs to Hank Sr. and Jimmie Rodgers and ends with a tribute to Bob Wills. The songs in between were penned by classic songwriters like Bob McDill, Roger Miller, Jack Clement, Allen Reynolds, and even ol’ Hank. Willie’s albums from the same period were the same way, a fresh take on country, but strongly rooted in tradition. I don’t really expect a guy like Jerrod Neimman to be as immersed in the history of country music as Willie or Waylon were, but simply choosing quality, substantive material from contemporary songwriters would be a big imporvement.
Noah Eaton
March 25, 2014 @ 11:33 pm
And at least Keith Urban will be the first to admit that while he has listened to more traditional country in his upbringing, he has never been trying to make that kind of music and has been candid about his heart being in recording a contemporary brand of country.
At least he is being honest about his intentions, as much as he is guilty of regurgitating those country-politan soundbytes. Urban is much more level-headed. With Niemann, in contrast, I just get the feeling that he has developed an Eric Church-esque complex (that is, likening himself as an “artistic” visionary and trailblazer of this generation of music listeners and fans)
Even there, at least Church and his longtime producer Jay Joyce displayed enough on “Chief” in particular to back their bravado-soaked statements up. In fairness, Niemann’s first two albums, which I’d hardly consider either legitimately “country”, were at least appealing in their production elements in the most part, even while the skits on the first album and the spotty, inconsistent songwriting rendered them flawed. Here, Niemann obviously is desperate for revived commercial recognition, but he has scrapped all ambition and creative muscle.
Applejack
March 26, 2014 @ 12:50 am
Thank you for the information. You know a lot more about the contporary stuff than I do! It’s interesting that Jerrod would see himself as an outsider visionary. I don’t think putting out tepid songs compiled from warmed-over elements of other pop music genres is showing much artistic leadership.
Applejack
March 26, 2014 @ 12:51 am
Make that “contemporary.”
Melanie
September 7, 2014 @ 7:52 pm
Actually, I think most countrypolitan “worked” as country music for a few reasons, not all necessarily in the same person/song.
People who sang country in this time still often came from a life which also contained the seeds of country music, so they were able to bring that mentality to the sound or lyrics. They wouldn’t have had the opportunity to be much more sophisticated than the “hayseed” or “hillbilly” originators of the music, as entertainment media was still quite regional. When I listen to Glen Campbell, for all his “countrypolitan” sound in some of his songs, there is still a country ethos to the whole thing which someone here more literate in music may be able to define for me. In both countrypolitan and the “outlaw” music, there was still respect for the tradition both respecting the sound of the music, and in the fact that they still grew up with these traditions.
To choose to play in the country genre was still a conscious choice, not a fall-back position or a stepping-stone, as it seems to be now.
Eduardo Vargas
March 25, 2014 @ 9:14 pm
The irony is that Niemann himself cut out a song titled “Old School New Again” back in the Judge Jerrod and the Hung Jury album. Some of the lyrics in that song are the COMPLETE opposite of what he is doing right now.
“I guess I’m just old school I love making music you can dance to.
I may not sound like the latest trend.
Never been on a tv show.
I got some buddies out in radio that spin my records every now and then.
So call me a dreaming fool, but wouldn’t it be so cool if we made old school new again.”
Trigger is dead on. The only reason this guy made this sellout move in his new album is to save his career since he hasn’t garnered a number one hit since “Lover, Lover”. It’s a true shame what people do to sell what they believe in order to gain acceptance-That’s not the way it should be.
Clark
March 25, 2014 @ 9:28 pm
I was lucky that, within 45 seconds of starting that video, youtube instead suggested “You used to love me a lot” by Mr. Johnny Cash.
J
March 25, 2014 @ 11:53 pm
Its actually called “She Used To Love Me A Lot”, and it wasn’t “by” Cash he just did a cover of it
the pistolero
March 26, 2014 @ 4:12 am
I was lucky that, within 45 seconds of starting that video, youtube instead suggested “You used to love me a lot” by Mr. Johnny Cash.
I was listening to that song last night and it suggested this crap. I was all like, “fuck a bunch of that.” 😀
Canuck
March 25, 2014 @ 9:52 pm
I sincerely wish that guys like Jerrod Niemann would quit name dropping beloved artists like Waylon and Willie. Not only is it tiresome, it reeks of them desperately trying to get some cred amongst knowledgeable country fans, and even casual fans.
Do these guys think that by mentioning well-known and loved artists that they will magically get some of the good will from the fact that they have mentioned them?
It also bears mentioning that Waylon and Willie both know/knew music intimately; Waylon was a DJ, and also a travelling musician with Buddy Holly, and Willie was known as a songwriter before he was famous as an artist. Willie is also a musician’s musician, and can play more things than guitar. Niemann, not so much. In short, when you compare Niemann to these two and he comes up woefully short.
Seriously, when Jerrod Niemann has done something of substance and has gained the accolades of Waylon and/or Willie, then maybe he can talk. Otherwise, he comes off as a middling artist trying to figuratively ride the coat tails of guys that came before him. More talented guys that came before him, to be exact.
ConnorWVU
March 25, 2014 @ 9:58 pm
All I can think after seeing the Drink to That All Night video is…
WTF!!
This shit is disgusting. I actually enjoy the song as a pop-rock song, but the fact Jerrod is trying to push this as country music is damn insulting. Listen to Dan + Shay’s song “What You Do to Me”. That shit is straight up pop and this is coming from someone who actually enjoys Rascal Flatts.
Oh boy, where has this genre gone.
the pistolero
March 26, 2014 @ 5:36 am
Something I just thought about this morning…
Little Jerrod is over here running his mouth about Willie and Waylon, but Iced Earth covered “Highwayman” on their latest album. Which act do you think has greater respect for the genre?
Alison
March 26, 2014 @ 6:13 am
I hate y’all. I literally just stopped my new Johnny Cash record – Out Among The Stars.. to go listen to “Donkey” on iTunes. OMG.
I HATE Y’ALL!
Hahahhahahaha.
TX Music Jim
March 26, 2014 @ 7:10 am
Another stupid song in a ever growing list of stupid songs by folks not fit to be in the same room with Waylon ! Time to fire up the “Honky Tonk Heroes” record and cleanse my musical soul !
Blackwater
March 26, 2014 @ 7:27 am
He should be embarrassed. If this was a 20 year old douche I’d probably be a little more OK with it. But that’s a grown ass man masquerading around like he’s a kid at the club. Pathetic.
Wes231
March 26, 2014 @ 7:55 am
Just looked up “Donkey.” Ho.lee. shit.
On a positive note, I appreciate the Johnny Cash review yesterday. Was debating whether to get it, but glad I did.
TopJimmy
March 26, 2014 @ 9:13 am
“Donkey” sucks. Jerrod Niemann sucks donkey crap!
Leather Telecaster
March 26, 2014 @ 9:18 am
Not much to add except well done again, Trigger. It seems my sentiments of disgust are really taking precedent concerning these shit baggers.
I don’t even care to roll the video.
Caro
April 25, 2014 @ 9:38 pm
You made a wise decision. I watched it and threw up a little in my mouth.
SarahBea
March 26, 2014 @ 10:19 am
I’m not sure if someone else has picked up on this yet (haven’t read all the comments), but that “Donkey” song is essentially a male version of a Ke$ha song. Like, actually. What demographic is he going after?
C.J. Benoit
March 26, 2014 @ 10:45 am
Oh you have GOT to be kidding me. Jerrod Neimann up there with Waylon and Willie?! I don’t think so. Even at their worst, Waylon and Willie both had songs that meant something.
Fayettenam Brad
March 26, 2014 @ 10:50 am
Jeez…this shit just keeps getting worse.
Fayettenam Brad
March 26, 2014 @ 10:56 am
How can a grown man look at himself in something like this and be okay with it? I’m sure his buddy Jamey Johnson is proud. In fact, it seems plausible that the folks at the end of the “Playing the Part” video are lined up outside of a Jarrod Niemann show.
Fayettenam Brad
March 26, 2014 @ 11:01 am
From Rolling Stone no less “Jerrod Niemann on His Innovative and Potentially Polarizing New LP”
Trigger
March 26, 2014 @ 11:43 am
I think there has been a concerted effort by the Jerrod Niemann camp to couch this album as “polarizing” even before critics such as I have even had a chance to speak on it. This is part of their marketing angle and campaign, and that is part of what stimulated me posting this when I did, instead of waiting to actually give the album a full listen and post a review. Two stories in both of America’s biggest music outlets were posted virtually at the same time and under the same pretense with the same basic theme. That’s why I felt it necessary to present a counterpoint.
the pistolero
March 26, 2014 @ 12:09 pm
I think there has been a concerted effort by the Jerrod Niemann camp to couch this album as “polarizing” even before critics such as I have even had a chance to speak on it.
Interesting observation. Perhaps that’s the Niemann camp’s take on the Eric Church approach, that the fact that it polarizes people makes it art.
Even if it is, though, it’s just as tiresome when Niemann does it.
Fayettenam Brad
March 26, 2014 @ 1:01 pm
I agree. Put it out front, maybe even cause a few people to check it out who would not do so normally.
Mike
March 26, 2014 @ 4:30 pm
Oh it is “Polarizing” all right.,. As in “I would rather get hit upside the head with a pole fifty times than listen to this drivel of a song!!!”
Mike
March 26, 2014 @ 4:32 pm
Sadly, my friend, that answer is more simple than you think. He is able to look at himself in the mirror with the stacks of freaking money on his bed behind him. As long as morons lap this crap up with a spoon, people like Neimann will continue to churn out this gorilla shit!
ComeAtMeBrew
March 27, 2014 @ 5:00 am
Don’t forget who wrote “Honky Tonk Badonkeydonk”, or however that title is spelled.
Jamey Johnson is incredible but he did some shit for the money too.
Rachel
March 26, 2014 @ 10:53 am
Eric, I agree with you 100%.
On a previous entry, I made the same claim. Techno is the new progressive Country.
It’s a stinkeroo every which way. A Hallmarkian claptrap, generic and gloriously cheesey.
Tarrou
March 26, 2014 @ 2:20 pm
I know that this site talks about combining country with EDM and rap. But wow, this song isn’t even that good. There is ZERO country here.
Hank
March 26, 2014 @ 4:08 pm
I just previewed “Donkey” on iTunes. About 30 seconds in, I realized that bathing in a pool of needles would be more enjoyable than continuing to let that song bend my ears over the barrel. What breed of nimrod would spend $1.29 to listen to a grown man rap about riding his “donkey, donkey” down to a bar? The same kind that are on the never ending quest to find the girl that Tim McGraw is looking for?
Mike
March 26, 2014 @ 4:35 pm
Seriously….Where is Varg Vikernes when you REALLY need him???
Those on the board who know a little about metal will know what I am talking about.
Canuck
March 26, 2014 @ 6:09 pm
Only on this site will you get mentions of Iced Earth and Varg Vikernes/Burzum in the same breath as country music.
That being said, Iced Earth are awesome, and Varg Vikernes is a moron.
Mike
March 27, 2014 @ 2:45 am
I agree with you. I get sick of hearing Varg’s whining and politics. I was just making a pun, that is all.
Canuck
March 27, 2014 @ 6:16 am
Oh, I completely understood what you were saying, no worries! Vikernes is just so pathetic because of his actions. Like I said, Iced Earth, on the other hand, are still making solid music!
And there are some Niemann songs that I don’t mind, like “What Do You Want From Me?”. It’s just kinda sad that he has to relate to name dropping and stupid tailgate songs to stay in tune with the rest of the Top 40 pack that release this drivel. It speaks volumes on the state of music right now that people have to jump on this stupidly-themed tailgate/pretend outlaw bandwagon to sell records.
What ever happened to actual talent and original music? Anyone making that gets glossed over in favor of the latest truck song.
Travis
March 26, 2014 @ 7:42 pm
Like I always say. In 20-30 years nobody will care about the money or awards that Luke Bryan or Jason Aldean or FGL have won and made or the songs they sang. But people will still be covering Willie, Waylon, Cash, and Hank!!!
Caro
April 25, 2014 @ 9:44 pm
I was just saying the exact same thing. Time has a way of sorting out the crap from the good stuff.
Melanie
September 7, 2014 @ 8:00 pm
Too bad that it doesn’t seem like it will happen in the remainder of my lifetime, as mainstream country music.
Acca Dacca
March 26, 2014 @ 11:29 pm
You might want to quit branding songs as “the worst” since it keeps changing. First it was “1994,” then it was “Lookin’ For That Girl” and now it might be “Donkey.” Seems your Worst Of list might need some tinkering :). As far as the album goes, it’s ridiculous. Hell, I even consider it offensive to the legacy of the 1952 film High Noon and by extension Tex Ritter’s “Do Not Forsake Me, Oh My Darlin’.”
On the other hand, I do respect the man for saying that he and other artists just want to record music that means something to them. A lot of times I feel that this is overlooked in favor of decrying the lack of twang in a song. But, this statement is more or less undone by the fact that it’s pathetically obvious Niemann just wants radio play and album sales.
Trigger
March 27, 2014 @ 9:35 am
Well when you say “worst song ever” I think it’s fair to assume that you’re talking about from the beginning of time until the point in time that you’re making that declaration, always leaving open the possibility that the future could hold something impossible to predict. So I think declaring the “worst song ever” and then having to correct yourself just helps paint the picture of the diminishing returns in country music.
Acca Dacca
March 27, 2014 @ 10:15 am
I agree. I was just making light of a rather dire situation. It’s impossible to have foresight when branding, but it sure does seem to have gotten an uptick lately. Whereas truly awful songs used to be rare, even on the radio, nowadays it seems like every time you turn around there’s a new turd that makes the others smell like roses by comparison.
Do you know why Niemann decided to name this album High Noon? I don’t like that it will be forever associated with a film that has helped to shape American culture nor it’s famous theme song. Plus, given that country has mostly divorced itself from western elements and Niemann is very much pop, what is he getting at?
The0ne
March 27, 2014 @ 10:33 am
from billboard-http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/the-615/5885290/jerrod-niemann-announces-new-album-high-noon
“‘High Noon’ is a term that”™s been in my mind since I was a kid,” Niemann explained on his website. “Growin”™ up in Southwest Kansas, I actually lived in Dodge City, Kansas, where the old gunfighting days have such a historical value. I mean, Wyatt Earp is the main street, and high noon, if you think of it, it”™s always meeting your adversary at noon, and goin”™ out there, walkin”™ a few steps, and turn around and face what you”™re most afraid of, right then and there. So for me, every time any of us make a journey in our life for whatever we”™re tryin”™ to do — in this case makin”™ music — I just think, ”˜okay, my adversaries are party poopers, and I”™m about to face that so that all of us can have a great time,”™ hopefully, listening to this record.”
MH
March 28, 2014 @ 7:32 am
Nothing like a good ol’ fashioned gun fight set to EDM.
ComeAtMeBrew
March 27, 2014 @ 4:57 am
While I agree he is “selling out” now, Jared Niemann did pay his dues before he went to Nashville to cash in. He spent the late 90s in Texas honky-tonks and writing songs recorded by “approved” SCM artists.
As a Kansan though, I am ashamed by this and many other things he has recorded.
Holly
March 27, 2014 @ 10:28 am
Couldn’t agree more. Not liking a lot of the new stuff that’s coming out, and Jerrod was never really country to begin with. This is just rap and pop, and he should find a venue that more fits his music and stop trying to call it country.
goldencountry
March 27, 2014 @ 10:45 am
He’s just another new country turd.
Rachel
March 27, 2014 @ 11:50 am
“Though there is no data point for musical serendipity, there may be a sweet spot between rockism (humans) and technological determinism (computers) when considering algorithmic discovery.”
“It can be easy to frame the choice as human versus machine, but those algorithms were created by humans, for humans. A computer-generated recommendation is not necessarily always better than a human”™s, but perhaps better than a human mind alone.”
“People ultimately care about the music, not the technology that delivers it.”
Amen.
ryanat
March 27, 2014 @ 12:44 pm
I’m a proud Kansan and I this guy’s music is an embarrassment to my home state.
Enjoy Every Sandwich
March 27, 2014 @ 4:05 pm
Hrm. The video makes me think of a line I heard on TV: “Um, well, we listened to aggressively cheerful music sung by people chosen for their ability to dance.”
Sonas
March 27, 2014 @ 10:53 pm
I looked at the video before reading the article and my initial opinion after 1.09, was that, well first, this is a stupid song, but second, he looked too old to rap.
Country music fans and rap fans are totally different. In country music, you can grow old with your fans. In rap music you absolutely cannot!!! Your fans abandon you once they approach their mid to late twenties. Why is this? Well simply put, rap is the kind of music that people outgrow. This is because rapping is mostly about saying stupid things in a cool way. With few exceptions, a 34 year old cannot pull that off. That is why the faces of rap are usually barely legal.
Caro
April 25, 2014 @ 9:50 pm
Agreed but then I think this is not aimed at true rap fans, but early teens and older folks who think they are cool with the young people’s music. Top 40 slaves basically.
Melanie
September 7, 2014 @ 8:05 pm
LOL. Re the faces of rap “music” being barely legal, that could also be true in a different context> (Yes I’m an old old fogey)
Marky Mark
March 28, 2014 @ 5:41 am
I am not sure if this comment fits this article, but it has been on my mind for a while and maybe it fits anywhere in this site. The problem seems to be one of labeling. I am a rocker first and foremost. I like 70s, 80s and some 90s rock, hard rock and metal. After that, to me, the good stuff got few and far between. I know on Siris i can put on the boneyard and the hair 80s and always find some stuff I like, but if I put on the new metal station, whatever it’s called, I won’t hear much I care for. I liked The NWOBHM and hair metal but hated nu-metal (maiden and g’n’r, yes, limp biscuit, no)…..but there was an audience for limp biscuit. So sequester. Call the stuff you lampoon here, nu-country, give them there own station and let them do what they want and ignore them. Then have your vinyl country and your classic country station, devoid of puke Bryan and flg. If the kids wanna hear that crap, let em hear it, it’s their ears. It’s a shame that it means new good stuff gets harder to find, but it’s the same in rock. Frankly, in the last 10 years, the only real new rock bands of any merit have been blackberry smoke, black stone cherry and rival sons.
….and now to completely neuter my argument, I have to say, I do like a lot of Jason aldean’s stuff, sorry. Love dwight, cash and steve earle 100x more, and understand the hatred for Puke Bryan, but Jason, he’s ok. 10 years from now you’ll like back on him like garth, not so bad (best of the worst).
jeff
April 10, 2014 @ 7:01 pm
Blackberry Smoke is a fine Southern Rock – Country Rock band. They are proof its still possible to find good music. However you have to work at finding it.
Janice Brooks
March 28, 2014 @ 10:02 am
and don’t forget the other Fred Rose standerd from Red Headed Stranger “Remember Me”
AusTXHorn
March 30, 2014 @ 7:05 am
There is not a single element of this song that could not be in a Ke$ha song. I did see a truck in the video though.
On the other hand, while it is offensive that this is peddled as country music, it is a catchy pop song. My kids do love this stuff and it makes for good summer boat music. So I grin and bear it and try not to take it too seriously or contemplate what it says about the future of our society…
Donkey, on the other hand, just completely pisses me off. Something about it triggers a near-homicidal impulse in me. I had to pause it after 30 seconds and unscramble my brain.
jeff
April 10, 2014 @ 6:57 pm
I’d rather listen to Ke$ha.
Jeremy
March 30, 2014 @ 7:58 am
Sadly, I remember a few years ago Jamey Johnson was on the Ralph Emery show. During the show a caller called in saying how Jamey reminded him of Waylon & Willie era country. Jamey thanked the caller, and told him to be on the lookout for a few artists that were in the same mold, one of which was Jerrod Niemann. I’m sure he was just trying to help a buddy out, but it sure looks bad now.
Ross CMR
March 30, 2014 @ 12:09 pm
He has my vote just for having the coolest website out of any country artist out there http://www.journeytohighnoon.com/
courtney
March 31, 2014 @ 1:14 pm
he’s just a blip on the radar. look at Johnny lee, he tried to mix disco-type sounds into country music and does anybody talk about him anymore? no, because he was not true to the genre. pop country has been around forever. what makes a country star great is that they stay true to the country sound and their names live on because of that. several years from now someone might stumble upon Jerrods album and wonder why he’s never heard about it before. then he’ll play it and think “oh that’s why,” just like I’ve done with several of my vinyls from the 70s and 80s
jeff
April 10, 2014 @ 6:53 pm
That was horrible. I no longer call myself a country music listener. I listen to Americana and Classic Rock. I attend folk and bluegrass festivals.
Noah Eaton
May 5, 2014 @ 5:04 pm
Just when I thought the “High Noon” era couldn’t get any worse, it has! =X
I concede I have no specific lead at this time, but according to Matt Bjorke of Roughstock, Niemann’s label Sea Gayle/Arista Nashville is commissioning (or has commissioned) Pitbull to record a verse for a remix of “Drink To That All Night” that will be serviced to mainstream radio! -__- -__- -__-
So now we’ll have to dodge “Donkey” on corporate “country” airwaves AND a remix to an already atrocious song on other formats as well! Is there no refuge anymore, at least on the FM radio dial? =X
Scotty J
May 5, 2014 @ 5:11 pm
This guy’s success just totally baffles me. Though I despise them at least I can see the reasoning behind the success of FGL but Niemann is a JAG (Just another guy) to me and nothing more. No charisma no outstanding skill, just nothing.
Noah Eaton
May 5, 2014 @ 5:26 pm
From the moment I first (unfortunately) heard “This Is How We Roll”, I KNEW it would eventually get a remix treatment……..and while I’m surprised they haven’t already done so as of yet, I still expect this will happen. I also think there’s reason to believe “Play It Again” can easily be remixed for Mainstream Top 40 due to its ridiculous monumental popularity on the iTunes composite chart.
I certainly was never expecting “Drink To That All Night” to get the green light for mainstream, though. Niemann just doesn’t fit the profile of a crossover-capable type of music personality. He looks too serious most of the time and doesn’t have any real stage presence. Florida-Georgia Line and Luke Bryan are by no means quality entertainers in my view either, but at least they look like THEY’RE having fun on stage and you don’t doubt they’re really enjoying where they’re at and what they’re doing.
With Niemann, I’m not convinced that is the case.
Noah Eaton
May 7, 2014 @ 12:41 am
http://us995.cbslocal.com/2014/05/06/jerrod-niemann-gets-pitbull-to-remix-drink-to-that-all-night/
It is with a heavy heart that I announce………….things have only gotten worse………….MUCH worse! ; __ ;
Mike
May 9, 2014 @ 4:31 pm
I just want to finally see country and death metal collaborate…
Come on girl get in my ride…
Bumpin some Darkthrone and Deicide
Man, Dallas Davidson should hire me….NOT!!!
Megan Fox
June 8, 2014 @ 5:33 pm
I totally agree, check out James Carothers- working to SAVE COUNTRY!! He wrote his new song “New Country Singers” based on this craze of trucks, beers and girls. Check it out! He’s new, but has a traditional sound and clever lyrics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URQrwflSNxg
Melanie
September 8, 2014 @ 11:42 am
Do all these people who constantly evoke “Waylon and Willie” like some kind of talisman to ward off criticism, actually know anything about their music at all? It seems that all they have is some nebulous mental image of “outlaws” as synonymous with “hell raising”, and they think it was really that easy.
Waylon and Willie were outlaws because they were devoted to country music and they stripped it back to its essence, from the countrypolitan sound, not because they tried to “evolve” it with absolutely no knowledge of the tradition from whence it came!
This “Waylon and Wille” schtick is old already, from these people. Can anyone really see either of those greats up there shaking their rears like Chippendales guys, with a complete lack of respect for themselves, for country music, for the ones who blazed the path, and most of all, a complete lack of enough talent to sustain decades-long careers?
They certainly didn’t do it for a quick buck and cheap fame, they FOUGHT to have good music made their way, not succumb to a stupid trend!
These guys’ version of “evolving” the music would’ve been the equivalent of Waylon and Willie and the boys taking the countrypolitan sound so in vogue at the time, and ramping up the strings and replacing the sugar with saccharine, for pity’s sake. They fought for a fresh sound, a stripped-down back-to-basics country, who are these guys fighting for their musical integrity?