On Charley Crockett’s Statement About Morgan Wallen, Beyoncé, and Gavin Adcock

Charley Crockett is on a tear right now, and has been on a tear for years really, finally putting him at or near the top tier of independent country performers not supported by radio, and threatening to break into the mainstream now that he’s on a major label. Crockett’s new album Dollar A Day released on August 8th is a killer, cinematic work with both stellar singles like “All Around Cowboy” and “Tennessee Quick Cash,” and a great cover to cover listen as well.
Crockett has also been making more and more public pronouncements that make you want to pump your fists, ranting about the music business, and making David Goggins-like motivational points that get your blood pumping. His recent appearance on The Joe Rogan Experience really gave some great insights and exposed the wisdom behind Charley Crockett’s rise.
But during the Joe Rogan appearance, and as part of a recent social media rant, Crockett also exhibited his propensity sometimes to get slightly ahead of his skis. Some of the things he said in the viral post making reference to Morgan Wallen, Beyoncé, and Gavin Adcock were spot on. Other things he said were just empirically false. And now of course, country music’s Town Drunk in the form of Gavin Adcock has chimed in.
Here is the Charley Crockett post in total. Then we’ll break down some of what he has to say.
Hey country folks. @beyonce ain’t the source of your discontent. It was 25 years of bro country. #1 country artist on earth listen’s to nothing but rap. Openly says he doesn’t really know any country music. Gotta respect his honesty. The machine points to a black woman who’s making a statement about marginalized people being removed from the conversation altogether, and somehow we all act like the entire pop industry didn’t just ambush roots music. These “country boys” been *singing* over trap beats for years. So what’s different now? Authenticity. Many of those business folks called me early on. They had whole albums pre written and recorded ready to just plug me in. I have receipts. It’s harder than ever to keep the public’s attention. They said and I quote “we wanna get into country music where you have audience loyalty.” Hot today, forgot tomorrow. I don’t need to put down a black woman to advance my music. That’s just embarrassing to the idea of America and I got no respect for it. Somebody asked me why I listen to @bigxthaplug the other day. Easy. He’s genuine. A true story teller. The best hip hop sound to come out of Texas in this century. The challenges country music faces aren’t unique. It’s an issue in every *genre*. I don’t have a problem with Americana. I have a problem with being compartmentalized by the music business. Outlaw as a *sub genre* of country was artists standing up for their rights against a rigid system. Ain’t no reason to imitate @officialwaylon and @willienelsonofficial if you ain’t about the fight. Texas forever.
Hey country folks. @beyonce ain’t the source of your discontent … These “country boys” been *singing* over trap beats for years.
Charley Crockett is 100% right about this. Though there hasn’t been “25 years of bro country,” being permissive to the Bro-Country era, and allowing artists like Florida Georgia Line, Jason Aldean, Luke Bryan, and even Blake Shelton to have country rap hits with trap beats is what created the avenue for someone like Beyoncé to release a song like “Texas Hold ‘Em,” and it not be entirely far afield from what country radio already featured, including from appropriating White dudes like Morgan Wallen.
This is the reason it was so important to fight back against Bro-Country in its era, and to continue to criticize Morgan Wallen’s music as being characterized as “country,” especially his current album I’m The Problem, which actually leans into these hip-hop influences even more compared to his previous albums that featured a surprising amount of more traditional country sounds.
Morgan Wallen is “the problem,” and it does create a double standard when you accuse Beyoncé of not being country, but give Morgan Wallen a pass.
“It was 25 years of bro country.”
This is just a unfortunate, false characterization, even if perhaps slightly unimportant to Charley’s overall point. Even in the most liberal interpretations of the Bro-Country era, the subgenre hasn’t been around for 15 years, let alone 25. Even if you put the start of Bro-Country with Jason Aldean’s “Dirt Road Anthem” from 2011, and assume we’re still in the Bro-Country era today, that still only gives you 14 years. The widely-recognized start of Bro-Country is Florida Georgia Line and the song “Cruise” from 2012. This was the moment that had journalist Jody Rosen coining the “Bro-Country” term.
Also, some mark the end of Bro-Country as early as 2015 with Chris Stapleton shocking the country world at the 2015 CMA Awards, and the explosion of “Tennessee Whiskey” with Justin Timberlake. Sure, some consider us still in the Bro-Country era with Morgan Wallen and some others, but that doesn’t take into account the rise of independents like Zach Bryan and Tyler Childers, and now the neotraditional resurgence with Zach Top.
What preceded Bro-Country? It was an unprecedented era of pop, with Taylor Swift winning the CMA Entertainer of the Year in 2009 and 2011. It was Kenny Chesney winning Entertainer of the Year all but one year between 2004-2008. It was the rise of Keith Urban, Rascal Flatts, Carrie Underwood, and Sugarland. There was nothing “Bro” about it, and there was little rap, Black, or electronic beat influence to the music. Some do finger Toby Keith as the godfather of Bro-Country, but he wasn’t dominating or a major force in country after the mid oughts.
“#1 country artist on earth listen’s to nothing but rap. Openly says he doesn’t really know any country music. Gotta respect his honesty.”
This is mostly true, but not 100%. Morgan Wallen is definitely the #1 artist in country. And when Theo Vonn asked him what he thought about Zach Top, Morgan Wallen answered that he “doesn’t listen to country music a whole lot.” Yes, this says a lot about country music and its #1 star, and how he’s just as much influenced by hip-hop as he is country, if not more.
“The machine points to a black woman who’s making a statement about marginalized people being removed from the conversation altogether, and somehow we all act like the entire pop industry didn’t just ambush roots music.”
This is where Crockett starts getting a little confused and in the weeds with his statement. First off, “The Machine” of country music in no way pointed to a Black woman as being a problem. A two-bit, third tier up-and-coming mainstream country star did in Gavin Adcock, while outlets like Saving Country Music, NPR, The Washington Post, and others pointed out the empirical fact that Beyoncé said herself, “This ain’t a country album.”
Nonetheless, when serviced to it, country radio played “Texas Hold ‘Em.” When submitted to them, the Grammy Awards accepted Cowboy Carter in country, and gave it a Grammy, and the all genre Album of the Year. Cowboy Carter was placed on Billboard’s country charts. The reason Gavin Adcock ranted against Beyoncé is because she was beating him on the country iTunes charts.
At no point was Beyoncé denied entry into country. Cowboy Carter was in no way gatekept or marginalized. It was given carte blanche in the country arena. Yet still, people love to point back at her as some sort of victim. She was incredibly successful in her country era, at least from a critical standpoint.
Then when Crockett says, “we all act like the entire pop industry didn’t just ambush roots music,” he seems to be attempting to marginalize Beyoncé’s major role in this very ambush. In large part, she spearheaded it.
We talked about the eras of country music above, and when Bro-Country might have started and ended. What era are we in now? It’s a double era, existing in two completely separate worlds. The first era is a massive resurgence in the roots of country music, bringing back twangy sounds, strong songwriting, and “authenticity,” which Crockett also talks about in his statement, and which Crockett is very much a part of.
The other half of this era is this “ambush” of roots music symbolized by Beyoncé, Post Malone, and BigXthaPlug, who Crockett also brings up positively later in his statement. While potentially trying to defend diversity in country music which is adminrable and important, Crockett sort of misses the problem people have with Beyoncé and BigXthaPlug being called country that goes beyond race.
There are plenty of Black artists already in country making actual country music. Charley Crockett is one of them. And unfortunately, Beyoncé didn’t really shine a spotlight on them, however much she might of tried (or didn’t). She overshadowed these Black country artists with her celebrity.
“I don’t need to put down a black woman to advance my music. That’s just embarrassing to the idea of America and I got no respect for it.”
This is clearly a call out of Gavin Adcock, though it would have been better if Charley Crockett had named names here. When you don’t name names, you create collateral damage. In this case, it can come across like Crockett is saying the entire country industry was trying to “put down” Beyoncé because she was a Black woman.
That said, as Saving Country Music proclaimed at the time Gavin Adcock called out Beyoncé in late June, this is not the buffoon we want representing country music, or taking up the mantle of attempting to explain the important, but complex and nuanced argument of why Cowboy Carter shouldn’t be considered country. Also, at this point, it really is time to let the Beyoncé issue go. It happened. Cowboy Carter wasn’t even called country by Beyoncé, but it won the Grammy. Present all the facts to the public, and let history hash out what happens from here.
And in fact, perhaps that would have been sage advice for Charley Crockett here too, because now Gavin Adcock has responded, which only keeps this whole issue in the news a little longer, and continues to help make Gavin Adcock an undeserving folk hero among that low information crowd in country that includes a lot of racists. Upon Crockett’s pronouncement, Adcock fired back,
“Somebody needs to tell the ‘act’ that has let out (the cover) of James town ferry 6 times he should just work on letting out quality original music. I got more cowshit under my pinky then you have seen your whole fuc-in life. Hank sr called and asked about the cosplay cowboy”
And so now you have folks tearing apart Charley Crockett—one of the few Black artists in country music actually making country music.
Charley Crockett does make a very important point about the hypocrisy some bring to the table when they criticize Beyoncé being called country, but stay mum when it comes to Morgan Wallen. But Crockett’s statement perhaps wasn’t thought out as well as it could have been. That has created openings for folks to tear it apart entirely, and to attack Charley.
That said, Crockett wasn’t trying to make some grand pronouncement. It was simply a social media post. But as Crockett continues to rise in popularity and prominence due to the strength of his music and his dogged worth ethic, he might be smart to try and choose his words a little more wisely. Because if not, the Gavin Adcock’s of the world will come knocking, trying to bring Crockett down to their level where he doesn’t belong.
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August 20, 2025 @ 12:08 pm
Charley Crockett is fake.
The NY Hip Hop subway rapper was costumed into a country “act” by industry people.
August 20, 2025 @ 12:20 pm
I love how you dorks keep bringing something up Crockett has sung about in multiple songs and talked extensively about Joe Rogan as if you’re exposing something about his life. “Industry people” didn’t make Charley Crockett. Hard work did. I’ve been reporting on him since he was opening for Turnpike Troubadours. The industry didn’t know what the hell to do with him. So he made his own lane.
August 20, 2025 @ 12:42 pm
Well, the “hard work” wasn’t his learning guitar.
He can’t pick.
August 25, 2025 @ 6:34 pm
He doesnt need to be Billy Strings. His band is killer. Perhaps you should go see them live (assuming you have not). Everyone has a right to change. Go look up early Pantera when they were glam, even Phil Anselmo’s first album with Pantera. They then became one of the best metal bands ever. If you want to deep dive “fake”, read Dave McGowan’s “Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon”. About the manufacturing of most of the anti-war/hippie music in the 60s and 70s. Well, that was a rant. Apologies.
August 20, 2025 @ 1:32 pm
I am totally going to agree with you on this.
Charley has busted his behind making this work.
August 20, 2025 @ 2:17 pm
Morgan and Gavin worked hard too! And both make music that’s way more popular.
Charley obviously works hard, but releasing 10
Albums every year doesn’t mean those songs resonate to a larger audience or that
They are quality. Just because you are constantly writing doesn’t mean you deserve worldwide fame and riches because you toil away. Morgan and Gavin toil away as well! They have been. They grind just like Charley does.
The difference though is they maybe work a little harder, and their art makes people happy in ways Charley’s music never could.
If you can’t make 3 albums that are genre shaking months long chart toppers. I get it. Because few if any could. But the answer to that isn’t to be a whiny ungrateful person and say “the other person at the top doesn’t deserve it, I do”! That’s sour grapes, it’s gross. It’s resentment and it’s jealousy and greed.
Not everyone agrees with Charley (clearly) that Morgan doesn’t make authentic country music. Morgan seems to be doing well for himself right now, not sure if you’ve heard.
Get in the lab and create better music. But Charley’s music isn’t better . It’s just Indie and not
Corporate. That doesn’t mean it’s better. Nor does it mean a thing. The public wants Morgan’s art. They don’t want Charley’s art at least not to that level.
Stop whining big dog, and get back to making music, and music that will resonate with millions, until then it’s sour grapes.
He isn’t as successful and never will
Be. Why is that my concern? Why would I give a fuck? You didn’t create last night or dangerous. You didn’t craft the most successful tours in country music history. You don’t have hype and marketing that make walk out reveals actual legitimate must see events. That’s not my fault. That’s Charley’s fault. He’s a lesser artist. Morgan did all that stuff. Charley didn’t. Charley has the same ability to do all that stuff. He didn’t do it.
He’s a lesser artists. Cry me a river, dawg.
August 20, 2025 @ 4:03 pm
I don’t think anyone would argue that Morgan Wallen makes authentic country music.
You can say Charley is a lesser artist all you want and make like releasing 3 albums in a year compared to factory processed double albums every other year is some kind of a flex.
There’s a reason dumb frat kids gravitate towards Wallen and not Charley.
August 20, 2025 @ 5:17 pm
I don’t think it’s about authenticity. It’s what sells and what doesn’t. You can make the case a lot of folks are starved for classic country music, but that doesn’t uncover why Charley isn’t selling. He makes that style, and there is indeed a hunger for that style to return why isn’t he selling like hotcakes?
I want country as top dog, heading the charts and being the biggest thing in music. I could give a fuck who is spearheading the charge for this to happen. If that was Charley that would be great but he is unable to make music that expands beyond the woke chattering classes who read the Times and have NPR coffee mugs and PBS bumper stickers. That’s niche. I don’t want country to be niche. I want to win.
And the winner is Morgan. He’s a winner. A proven one.
If another, more traditional country artist wants to come and take the crown, let’s see if, bring it.
Until then it’s just talk. Charley has zero power in terms of the industry or in terms of charts because he isn’t a chart topper and he has zero hits. You want to talk about the top dog, write better music and to the charts yourself ,
Charley is untalented and unable to do so.
So we have Morgan.
I’m interested in winning. Period. Morgan gets the job done. So I have no issues.
August 20, 2025 @ 7:28 pm
“Morgan and Gavin worked hard too!”
Ahh yes, Morgan really busted his ass by (checks notes), blowing out a ligament, landscaping, and going on The Voice, all within a 3-4 year span, while Adcock busted his ass by (check notes), blowing out his knee and learning guitar while recovering, all within a 3-4 year span.
Real assbusters, those guys.
August 20, 2025 @ 8:16 pm
Ducks out of my question of why if there’s a need and desire for classic country and their absolutely is, why Morgan outsells Charley 50 to one. No one is denying that Charley is a hard worker. He clearly is. It’s clear too though that Morgan works harder. Success speaks for itself. You don’t just become what he has become just by falling into it.
If it’s so easy why hasn’t anyone else come close to Morgan’s success? Why doesn’t everyone in country do this? Why isn’t Charley himself of that success level?
The answer is obvious, it’s fucking hard to become that successful.
And I do know one thing, successful people don’t whine about how ungrateful they are nor do they whine about how the neighbor has better lawnmowers than we do. They work harder and then own the lawn mowing company itself.
No one is stopping Charley from making a masterpiece that’s talked about like a classic country album of old really is. He is well within his right to make one. He is perfectly capable of making songs and music that could become the biggest songs of the year and win him 7 Grammys in one night. The problem is he can’t. And he won’t. Because success like Morgan’s is rare, exceedingly so. Morgan could have had a hit with up down up down and disappeared, and become a no name trivia answer of who knows whatever happened to that voice contestant? Where did he go? Instead he he become the biggest voice star of all time, his success also rivals and probably eclipses long time veteran legacy acts like Luke Bryan and Carrie underwood. They’ve maintained success for longer, as has someone like Tim McGraw and Keith urban and chesney. Their careers are decades longer than Morgan’s. But I don’t think any of them reached the heights Morgan currently is at .
That’s why I said he is one of the biggest superstars our genre has ever known. He’s Garth brooks and Shania Twain level big. And as said before I don’t think either of them were able to bring the audience he does, from so many other non country genres. Theres really been nothing like his success at least in modern times. We can’t compare his legacy to dolly or Willie or Waylon or Hank because that would be silly he’s been on the scene for 6 or 7 years total. But he has reached levels that few ever have including many classic country stars we adore.
Many people including trigger seem to paint him as a white hot current artist but in 5 years he will have faded. I don’t think that’s accurate, we have no idea how his career will go. Maybe his next album will be a dud and he will have diminishing returns from here on out. I do know people have written him off since the scandal and he can’t be stopped, he has hit after hit. Smash hit after smash hit. I wouldn’t count him out if I were all you, just saying .
August 20, 2025 @ 8:22 pm
I stopped reading at “Morgan Wallen and Gavin Adcock work hard, too.” That’s just hilarious.
August 21, 2025 @ 6:41 am
@Interstate Daydreamer
“I stopped reading at “Morgan Wallen and Gavin Adcock work hard, too.” That’s just hilarious.”
You are wise, grasshopper. 🙂
August 21, 2025 @ 8:56 am
Only the black boy worked hard.
The white boys have it easy.
“Black folks built this country.”
While the white slavers stole the inventions of the black man.
Yep.
August 21, 2025 @ 9:01 am
This is called a “Straw Man,” Hank 33. Nobody is saying what you’re assigning to people.
August 20, 2025 @ 11:10 pm
So your argument is you don’t care about the quality of the music, just so long as the genre broadly defined as “country” tops the charts. Content is of no real issue, or quality. Or even if it’s actually country music at all.
By your metric, McDonalds is fine dining.
August 21, 2025 @ 6:01 am
The point is the pseudo-rap trap beat stuff they do is soulless garbage. Sure, Wallen makes lots of money though more based on redneck identity politics than anything else. However talented or hardworking he may be he’s still a hack who who’s overproduced junk won’t be remembered.
August 21, 2025 @ 6:40 am
@Wedothingsalittledifferentroundhere
When did popular begin having anything to do with quality? You’re telling me Tate McCrae makes “quality” music or is an “artist.” Morgan Wallen is a country Tate McCrae. Sure, a bunch of minivan driving, Lululemon wearing 30 somethings love him because he takes them back to when they were the dandy of Gamma Chi*, before they gave up on life, or life gave up on them. But that doesn’t in any way imply what he does is of value to anyone.
Good grief. I just read your other comments and now I’m even more embarrassed for you and for me for having taken time to respond to someone who obviously doesn’t have a clue.
You want country music to be big yet you want someone like Morgan Wallen to spearhead that? Dude, put the glass pipe down and tell your boys from East TN you are moving on to try to clear your head.
Seriously, your comments are about the dumbest things I’ve read. Not just here, but on the internet and I’ve been reading stupid shit on the internet since the early 1990s.
*Since I know you have no fucking idea what I’m talking about, it’s Steely Dan.
August 21, 2025 @ 4:44 pm
+1 for the My Old School reference. Even my 21y old daughter knows that song – though she did graduate from William & Mary.
August 22, 2025 @ 10:43 am
Hey Bro Morgan,
I think Morgan Wallen’s music really sucks and Charley Crockett’s is great. There it is, my opinion, worth as much as yours.
As they say, opinions are like assholes – everyone’s got one.
Beyond that, I sincerely hope that you/it are some sort of algorithmic trollbot, because if I ever spent that much time writing about Morgan Wallen, much less thinking about him, (I can’t even contemplate listening to him for more than 5 seconds…) then my head would literally implode from the suckiness.
Cheers!
August 26, 2025 @ 5:07 pm
Or you just hate anyone
Who is popular to be different. That’s all
You are. Charlie is as much of a fraud as anyone. He is a two bit liberal hack.
August 26, 2025 @ 5:27 pm
Is this a haiku, or a comment?
And why are we insisting that every single person now be labeled with a political marker. If Charley Crockett is such a liberal (and he’s never show any political inclination, btw) why would he go on Joe Rogan?
I literally wrote this guy into a review for an album that he had nothing to do with just to criticize some things he said. So those who think I’m running interference for Charley Crockett are pretty misguided. That said, the seething, sneering, obsessive way some go after this guy is borderline insane.
August 20, 2025 @ 7:50 pm
Man the comments on here are filled with a bunch of losers. Half y’all give Country a bad name, and I’m sorry but supporting Wallen is a disgrace to the genre. The vitriol for Charley makes no sense, and some of y’all are toeing the line with the big hard R.
August 21, 2025 @ 9:06 am
Hahaha. That one guy or gal that loves Morgan Wallen is so funny. The logic is flawed and all over the place, and it is laughable that anyone thinks that guy even approaches proper country music in any way.
Guys like Morgan do amazing because they appeal to the masses, but we have countless examples of the masses liking total trash. In no way am I suggesting that I would not sell out for many millions, but let’s call a spade a spade.
August 21, 2025 @ 8:00 am
hahaha, what a silly comment. “Industry plant” is the dumb assed music version of conspiracy theory. It’s stuff people say when they don’t know how anything works.
August 21, 2025 @ 8:24 am
Crockett is as fake as a two-dollar bill. And yet, the two-dollar bill is real, you just don’t see it that much, just like Charley Crockett. There aren’t many, if any, artists out there like him. The dude was raised in a trailer park, had a rough upbringing, no handouts in life, worked his f’n ass off to make music (which kept him out of prison btw), and your complaint is that he sounds different now than the YouTube video of him on a Subway train. WTF man? You think growing into a better musician makes him “fake”? Go listen to Morgan Wallen, I guess.
August 21, 2025 @ 9:02 am
Chuck went to College in New York and slummed it in the subways with his white skater buddies. Then he created a narrative.
Bob Dylan did something similar in the 60s, though to a better result.
August 21, 2025 @ 11:32 am
By using the name Chuck, I assume you mean Charley? You think he went to college in NY? HA! He never went to college buddy. I don’t know where you get your info but you’re getting it wrong. You don’t get to just make shit up about people’s lives. You’re spreading lies man. Straight up lies. You’re pathetic to be honest.
September 7, 2025 @ 5:38 pm
This is all so over the top dumb. Everyone shutup and listen to who you want to. Personally, bro country is awful and they can have it. Charley is talented and his shows are awesome. Hootie moved over to country and did well. Who cares where he came from.
August 20, 2025 @ 12:13 pm
“Morgan Wallen is “the problem,” and it does create a double standard when you accuse Beyoncé of not being country, but give Morgan Wallen a pass.”
: D
August 20, 2025 @ 2:40 pm
I like Charley but I’ve had that impression for a while too. He’s kinda unremarkable in ways, an ok singer, writes some solid tunes but are there any that are “great”?
August 20, 2025 @ 3:11 pm
That’s it. That’s what Charley fans here don’t seem to get. Morgan has bangers galore. Hits coming out the wazoo. Song of the year type songs. Songs that millions of people sang for months on end. Songs that got played hourly on radio on a loop.
But Charley has none of that. It’s rote, basic songs. We all want the Hank style to come back but he’s not Hank, he’s not writing those songs that will stand the test of time. I’d rather watch a video of Hank singing and playing than watch a copycat facsimile.
Morgan is anything but unremarkable. You either love or hate him but he’s not boring. In fact that’s why Morgan’s new album wasn’t as well received at least initially. People wanted a 2025 dangerous or another last night. that isn’t this record.
Charley’s released like 59 albums. They all are the same mid tempo classic country style that’s been done a million times before. I hate sturgill but at least he changed things up and tyler too. Charley though? He’s completely unremarkable. Has a classic voice, but it’s this same booming, staid style.
What makes Morgan, well, Morgan is he does music in all styles and isn’t afraid to experiment. Maybe the most lauded song on the new album was that 45 second rap interlude. People loved it because it’s not his typical style. That sort of stuff is exciting as a fan.
August 20, 2025 @ 4:12 pm
“That’s it. That’s what Charley fans here don’t seem to get.”
What a lot of Charley’s fans understand (and, appreciate) is Charley’s work ethic.
Same as Rob Leines.
Something not working? Then, get back in there, and MAKE it work.
August 20, 2025 @ 7:01 pm
He is the new Robert Pollard.
August 21, 2025 @ 7:48 am
How do we determine work ethic?
Wallen drops massive albums with 30+ songs. That sounds like work to me.
August 21, 2025 @ 9:05 am
Jesse Wells released a 67 song album, so there.
August 20, 2025 @ 4:33 pm
This argument about “hits” and “bangers” falls short on so many levels.
Spice Girls sold 90 million records. They had hits out the wazoo. No one’s arguing that they’re great artists or anything original.
August 20, 2025 @ 4:40 pm
Yeah. NPR tiny desk concerts are the real gauge of the hits.
Everyone at USAID knows it.
August 20, 2025 @ 5:00 pm
I can tell I’m gonna regret this, but what the hell.
Morgan has bangers galore. Hits coming out the wazoo. Song of the year type songs. Songs that millions of people sang for months on end. Songs that got played hourly on radio on a loop.
I got three words for you, Scooter: ”Achy Breaky Heart.”
And three more, just for shits and giggles: Cracked Rear View.
August 23, 2025 @ 7:52 am
Look, kid, I don’t know if you’re like a teenager or simply someone who is uneducated, but quit trying to compare Wallen and Crockett. Wallen has the industry and Nashville machines pushing him to stardom. Wallen makes music for people who like hip hop with a touch of twang. Wallen is BroCountry2.0. He does represent a problem when it comes to getting spotlight to independent, authentic country artists. Crockett represents just one person in the latter group. The point is that if you knew anything about country music history, you would know that these independent artists are the more of the heir apparent to country music’s crown than someone like Wallen, or even pop-artist crossovers like Post Malone or Beyoncé. There is an audience for authentic country music and it’s growing. You’re probably the same type of person that “discovered” Tyler Childers three years ago, and thought you were onto something. Meanwhile, all of us country fans have been listening to him for years. Anyways, give it a break with saying independent, authentic country music isn’t popular. It clearly is or else people like Zach Bryan, Tyler Childers, Charles Wesley Godwin, Sierra Ferrell, Kaitlin Butts, Red Clay Strays and really any other independent, authentic roots artist wouldn’t even be known by people like you.
August 25, 2025 @ 6:48 pm
Paint it Blue is a banger.
August 20, 2025 @ 12:15 pm
I can’t wait until Gavin disappears forever
August 20, 2025 @ 3:26 pm
I feel the same about Charley. When the music doesn’t hit it doesn’t hit. Given that my reaction to not getting any traction probably wouldn’t be to release 10
Albums in a year. But what do I know? Dude needs to stop releasing album and quit. It’s boring.
August 20, 2025 @ 6:24 pm
All of your replies convince me you are Gavin Adcock….
August 21, 2025 @ 9:25 am
Yeah get back in 10 years and see who’s more remembered. Charley has put out more quality music in the last year than that fat mouth breathing wannabe ever will in his pathetic fucking career.
August 20, 2025 @ 5:30 pm
Well cracked rear view was a single album, they never had another album selling anywhere near that and never had a hit of equal weight going forward either.
Achy breaky heart was a song. He never again had a hit of that level.
Morgan has more than bangers and hits. He’s a banger and hit factory. Last night isn’t his only massive song.
If you want to argue that Charley has a hit equal to those artists I’d love to hear the argument.
Morgan does, but Charley doesn’t,
Further. Morgan isn’t a one hit wonder. Nor a one album wonder. Dangerous isn’t his sole claim to fame. His follow up albums both have been huge massive hits. So your analogy makes no sense. Hootie was a one album hit. Billy ray a one hit wonder . That doesn’t describe Morgan or his prowess and dominance.
Charley on the other hand doesn’t have a hit at all nor an album hit either. You could ask ten random people on the street and they could name multiple Morgan albums and songs and sing them word for word. If you asked them about Charley they’d say who the fuck is he? That’s the difference.
As stated above Charley is just pissed the USAID money dried up and he’s not going to be promoted anymore on pbs and npr. I couldn’t give less of a fuck about him or his music personally, it’s boring and a snooze fest that means nothing on the charts. He’s makes garbage music. I hate it. I really do. It’s woke country music for the liberals. No thanks. I’ll take my listening elsewhere and listen to the actual classics themselves. Why would I want to listen to a copy of the classics. I’d rather just listen to the classics. I never think, my god! I need a palate cleanser from this modern day corporate sludge, I know what I’ll do, I’ll listen to someone inspired by it . I could listen to the real actual innovators and classics, but no, I’m in the mood for a copycat facsimile version who would bore Hank sr anyways if Hank heard him. I love the classics I just think the classics are classic because they were done by people with talent, class and a stage presence that doesn’t resemble a wooden board.
August 20, 2025 @ 7:40 pm
“Morgan has more than bangers and hits. He’s a banger and hit factory.”
It takes a minimum of five songwriters to write a “banger” and “hit?”
Bob McDill laughs.
August 20, 2025 @ 9:04 pm
Has got to be a talent having 5 co-writers because charley doesn’t have any, is as pure as pure can be, solo writes. Mr moral and ethical and can’t craft a hit song to save his life. I could give a fuck if Morgan has 20 writers on each song. Beyoncé has 7 writers on each song and cowboy carter was a failure. So number of writers means nothing to me. I care about domination and cultural expansion, above everything else. I wish Charley could write a hit song or album but he’s unable to.
My guess is even if charley had multiple writers he couldn’t write hits like Morgan and his team can. Beyoncé can’t. Charley has had way more chances to write those hits too. Releasing multiple albums every single year. Yet none are hits. What do you call a baseball player, a batter who had like 15 at bats and doesn’t get on base once? Is that a good player? Is he talented? Would you trust him?
I’m interested in having country have the biggest hits in the world for years to come. World shattering, culture shaping, this song is inescapable for 10 months type hits. I don’t give a flying fuck about how many writers it takes to achieve those hits. I really don’t. Who gives a fuck?
You either want to win and completely decimate all other genres if you want to go back to when country Music wasn’t commercially successful and was a joke in popular culture. I know what paradigm I’ve chosen. Are you game?
August 20, 2025 @ 9:54 pm
I have no desire for country music to dominate or decimate all other genres, and neither does country music. Country has never wanted to be the biggest or the most dominant. It just wants to be country.
August 21, 2025 @ 5:26 am
GTFO with that shit. You are describing the whole bro country attitude. Wallen can’t write a song to save his life. He’s an amazing lounge singer. Morgan as the Spice Girls of country music is spot on
You are either Morgan or someone who wants to date Morgan…
August 20, 2025 @ 11:15 pm
NPR did not receive USAID money, this is lazy trolling.
NPR stations that play folk and roots music and have music shows will probably continue playing Charley’s music because their audience wants to hear it.
You’re trying to set up a disingenuous argument here where Crockett’s career was somehow nefariously funded or astroturfed, and it’s complete nonsense. Enjoy your Wallen music all you like, but there’s really no need for your fever dreams about artists you don’t like, and you’re devoting an awful lot of energy to this bizarre cause where simply calling Wallen “country” and his being popular is somehow a win for the genre.
August 21, 2025 @ 8:18 am
Morgan’s real “big hit” was tapping into reactionary online identity politics after he got caught on camera trying to act like a black rapper while being a dumb, drunk redneck. Whatever talent he has is overshadowed by the blazingly obvious Sex Pistols/KISS/Ozzy/NWA like outrage marketing in calling his next album “Dangerous.” People ran off and bought it like I did anything with a PMRC label on it in 1986. But I seriously doubt that anything he’s doing is substantial enough to have the long term influence any of them did. It’s pretty vapid machine music of the sort where “the artist” is just the face for a large team producing market tested, overproduced pablum.
August 21, 2025 @ 8:47 am
This isn’t entirely true, and is a bit of revisionist history that I’ve seen parroted about. Morgan Wallen was already the hottest artist in all of country music when the N-word incident went down. Yes, there was also an anti cancel culture action of people downloading his albums, along with the Streisand Effect that increased his sales. But it wasn’t like he was a second tier star to begin with. And that reaction wasn’t because he said the N-word. It was because there was a full court press to destroy his career that lasted for years and is still ongoing, hence the wildness that Jelly Roll can get caught on camera saying the N-word THREE TIMES, and not a single news story has been written about it.
August 21, 2025 @ 10:29 am
At least you admit that what you enjoy listening to most is corporate sludge.
August 21, 2025 @ 3:26 pm
How dare you call Joey Moi corporate sludge.
He is Canadian slop.
August 25, 2025 @ 10:13 am
My guy we get it you’re a real Wallen stan, but I promise, you don’t have to keep glazing him so hard in these comments.
August 20, 2025 @ 12:16 pm
Charley Crockett’s success seems to be from how he’s seperated himself from the industry and the drama and pretty much kept quiet, and appealed directly to purists. I don’t think he is in the position to start calling out the ‘problems’ in Country music without putting a target on his back for online commenters. His success is never going to eclipse the people he’s calling out because he has the vocal range of Ernest Tubb. I’ve started seeing online comments on instagram criticizing his voice in live performances, and I never really saw those before. (No it wasn’t me who made them.) My point is he’s been successful because he’s essentially stayed in his lane. He could very well become a target of ridicule from the normies if he’s not careful.
Come on…Charley Crockett is not black. No one would come to that conclusion by seeing his picture and not without being told first that he claims to be mixed race.
August 20, 2025 @ 12:50 pm
Crockett wears a black power Egyptian Horus hip hop medallion and pretends he thought it was a Southwestern Thunderbird.
He told that lie on Joe Rogan.
Now he is white knighting for Beyonce.
Do the math.
August 20, 2025 @ 1:45 pm
Nobody is claiming Crockett’s Southwestern resale shop trinket is a “black power” symbol. About as dumb as a point of calling a white guy holing up the #3 is making a White power symbol.
August 20, 2025 @ 2:23 pm
Rappers and black separatists have been wearing Egyptian themed bling for nearly fifty years.
The lore that blacks were the Pharaohs is over a hundred years old.
Just like Tupac, Charley is acting. He went to acting school in New York on a Boule society scholarship.
August 20, 2025 @ 3:30 pm
Dude, you come across like you hate Charley Crockett, but I’m pretty sure you’ve got a hard on for him.
August 20, 2025 @ 3:47 pm
Charley is a has-been.
His 15 minutes is up.
Scooter Jennings can’t save his liberal art school ass.
August 20, 2025 @ 4:16 pm
Nothing in this universe except for your cope believes that Charley Crockett is a “has been.” He literally just signed to major label and appeared on the Joe Rogan podcast. It’s empirical that his career is in it’s strongest moment as we speak. Who know where he goes from here, but keep telling yourself he’s a Black supremecist theater kid who couldn’t fill a club in Texas.
August 20, 2025 @ 4:28 pm
We shall see.
I think both he and Childers have peaked.
But I have no doubt Gavin Adcock will be number one in country and, if my gut is right, lead a Southern Rock revival that will eclipse even the Allaman Brothers and Lynyrd Skynyrd.in their prime.
August 21, 2025 @ 5:50 am
I’ts crazy how people can just go on the internet and say things, man. Even for a comment section, you’ve got an uncommon density of horrible takes here.
August 21, 2025 @ 6:47 am
@Hank 33
Good luck with your career in stand up. However, what I’m reading here is a bit too subtle to lead to much success. But you may be on the right track.
Unless your comments are not meant to be funny in which case you come off as a moron.
August 21, 2025 @ 8:23 am
There is a whole lot to laugh at here but Adcock eclipsing “the Allaman Brothers and Lynyrd Skynyrd” is most hilarious. I don’t even have to listen to him to know how stupid that is.
August 21, 2025 @ 8:37 am
Yeah, he’s the great white hope, eh? A drunk who can’t spell. Seems your proclamations about Charley and, of course Tyler, track with your politics, which is about the worst gauge of musical talent one can have. Anyway, I’m seeing Charley this weekend, I’ll tell him you say hello.
August 21, 2025 @ 9:22 am
Adcock will beat up all you nerds behind the gym.
August 21, 2025 @ 11:14 am
If your goal in this thread is to have the worst takes, you’re accomplishing that. Heck of a job
August 21, 2025 @ 12:32 pm
You keep Tyler Childers name out your mouth, dammit! He ain’t going anywhere.
As for the Crockett vs. Adcock, cmon, man. You can’t be serious. I’m no huge CC fan, but I’d never heard of Gavin Adcock before I read this article, and after a listen, no thank you. If I were paying to see one concert and they were my only 2 choices, I’d go see Charley, no question.
August 21, 2025 @ 3:29 pm
Snipe Hunt bombed.
It’s over.
August 21, 2025 @ 3:57 pm
No it didn’t. It debuted at #2 and was still at #12 this week—not back for a non radio-supported artist. The next couple of weeks will tell if it’s sticky in the charts, or falls.
August 23, 2025 @ 2:21 pm
@h33–“Adcock will beat up all you nerds behind the gym.”
I dunno. Didn’t he say he was coming for Beyonce’s ass?
It will probably take him some time to recover after Bey’s bodyguard lifts him up with one hand by the front of his shirt and throws him twenty feet across the room.
August 20, 2025 @ 2:47 pm
He has that blues influence and I can see him relating to that culture. No artist is telling the 100% God honest truth about their backstory. There is creative liberty there because the artist is tied to the songs, the songs aren’t autobiographies set to music. Hank Jr was constantly full of shit in interviews. Keith Urban never went motorcycle riding with his bandmates before an evening concert (he took a private jet to the venue), Cody Johnson is not 6ft tall – not even close, (it is true that Midland spent a decade and a half tearing up Texas honky tonks before finding fame) and Charley Crockett got busted for selling enough weed to get a felony charge – and street people who have had drug problems are universal liars. The art is seperate from the person.
August 20, 2025 @ 3:25 pm
Charley with his acting school friends making a student film in NY.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkDKCnNKNqI&list=RDPPxLYiAhphg&index=10&pp=8AUB
August 20, 2025 @ 7:13 pm
That was pretty cool. Thanks for sharing!
August 21, 2025 @ 4:45 am
Is there evidence that he himself went to acting school? Otherwise the few of those videos I watched look closer to that 90’s Austin movie Slacker in the vibe vs NY art student.
August 21, 2025 @ 8:28 am
I’m not sure what point you are trying to make but this is blues not hip hop and if anything he maybe was going though a phase of trying to look like a Texas version of Tom Waits then. .
August 21, 2025 @ 9:48 am
Keith Richards and Mick Jagger met when they studied art.
August 21, 2025 @ 10:15 am
Sir Jagger went to the London School of Economics.
August 21, 2025 @ 11:42 am
Charley didn’t go to acting school. He didn’t go to college either. You are making shit up. Dude, your opinion on this is meaningless. If you’re spreading lies you add zero value to a conversation. You’re here just to ruffle feathers and say untrue bullshit.
August 20, 2025 @ 3:19 pm
To be fair, the first time I saw a picture of Charley Crockett, I went online to see if he was black or not,
August 20, 2025 @ 12:16 pm
“The machine points to a black woman who’s making a statement about marginalized people being removed from the conversation altogether, and somehow we all act like the entire pop industry didn’t just ambush roots music.”
I took this portion of the statement as a connection to elements that gave birth to Bro-Country and what came before as pop music’s influence into the country genre. Taylor Swift seemed rather pop driven in her early days IMO without dredging more into the 00s Nashville sound.
Synthesizers were ran into the ground in the 80s. Disco influenced a range outside of acts that were in that genre in the mid/late 70s. Outside of the long term established acts in country there seemed to be a gap from the late 90s until the past 10 years of acts that were more traditionalists instead of blending sounds. Would say the rise of independent music in general in the early ’10s across genres helped turn the tide of the cannibalization we were seeing by the major labels! (of course there are a few bright spots “artists” that break that generalization)
August 20, 2025 @ 1:27 pm
Yeah, but if Charley Crockett is putting the Bro-Country era at 25 years, that completely changes the calculus.
I appreciate what Charley Crockett was trying to say here. But he kind of got three separate though connected points garbled in his explanation, and I acknowledge there can be different interpretations.
August 20, 2025 @ 2:06 pm
I do think there was at least a strain of proto-bro-country with the Music Mafia crowd in what, ‘03? ‘05? I remember the back-to-back arrivals of the songs “Redneck Woman” and “Save a Horse, Ride a Cowboy” as the moment the mainstream really jumped the shark. Obviously there was an interval where the soccer mom country-pop was still rolling but those were the seeds that when watered brought forth “Dirt Road Anthem” and “Cruise.”
August 20, 2025 @ 4:01 pm
This is my thought too. I consider the start of bro country at Chrome with Trace Adkins. That might be a bit of a stretch but not for me. The shortly after was save a horse, ride a cowboy which is flat out bro country.
August 20, 2025 @ 10:21 pm
lol. ur username made me chuckle
August 21, 2025 @ 9:49 am
It all started with Hank jr, late 70’s.
August 20, 2025 @ 4:35 pm
I appreciate that you can go back in country history and find a song or two, or maybe even and artist and say they were making “Bro-Country.” I don’t even think “Save a Horse” qualifies by the way. Just because it’s bad, doesn’t make it Bro. But by saying the last 25 years have been dominated by Bro-Country, you’re literally disappearing entire decades of country music history, including the launching of the most popular artist currently on the planet.
Again, I know I’m coming across as nerdy on this point. But my greater point is that if Charley Crockett wants to win arguments, he should tighten them up. And now that more and more people are paying attention as he continues to ascend, his words are going to fall under greater scrutiny.
Bro-Country has not been around for 25 years. Full stop.
August 20, 2025 @ 6:15 pm
That’s the point I was making. Charley is ignorant about the history of the music, as you point out the person more popular than Morgan is Taylor swift who started in country in those 25 years. And she never made bro country so why listen to anything he has to say given we knew that’s bs?
As you said Charley wants to fight and win arguments. But he can’t. And beyond that as I said. I want to win. But not arguments. I want country to dominant everything and totally. Culture. Music, art all should be country dominated. Morgan got us there and is the leader of this. Lots of other artists are big and contributed but Morgan is our leader as it were for this. No one else decimates our genre everywhere like he does. I want to fucking win. And Charley will never be a winner or get us a win. Because it’s outsider music. By its very nature he makes music for coffee shops and sweater wearing hipsters. That doesn’t get us a win. Cultural domination requires hits, albums of them, and someone able to make the songs catchy, but beyond that catchy songs are just catchy. Morgan, like Zach, makes music that touches people to an extent that your garden variety music does not. These aren’t just songs to people. They are life. They soundtrack life in a way a Frankie Ballard, all due respect, does not. People feel his songs deeply.
And they don’t with Charley beyond tapping toes and nodding their head to a guitar melody.
Morgan has made country music our national identity to an extent that no one since Garth has. and even Garth’s reach was limited as he was never pulling public enemy and Tupac fans to his shows. Morgan does. He can assemble a crowd of traditionalists, pop country, rap, rock, metal, folk, and funk fans all together. No one else in our genre can do it, the only other person who could would be the person you mentioned, the one person out of reach to Morgan: Taylor Swift.
The bringing together of people is important as is total cultural dominance. And I need someone who can do more then play tiny desk concerts and get a thousand comments, in order to make country our nations music. I want country everywhere. Literally everywhere. Charley doesn’t do that and can never do that. It’s niche music made for a niche subset audience. Charley isn’t made for making it big anyways. Morgan is. He’s a beast.
You either choose babe Ruth to lead your team to victory, or someone else does. I want him as my leader. And I want to fucking win. Anyone else who isn’t interested in that should be disregarded and ignored. This is the winners genre, if you aren’t here for that, those people need to exit our scene and do so fast. The dead weight harms us all.
I’m here to fight and win. That’s all I’m here for. I’m tired of loserish strategy. The fight for our genre, our sound, and ultimately our nation and survival rests on this. Those who want to drag us down or don’t want country to be dominant can leave. Go! Move out of my way, now!
I feel disturbed by these comments and the sense that anyone would not what this. This is the way forward.
August 20, 2025 @ 7:44 pm
First dude, you’re going to have to learn to slow your roll, or I’m going to slow it for you. This is an open forum. But your constant use of different names is in violation of the comment rules (warned you about this before), and the length of the comments bogs the entire comments section down. Let the game come to you a little bit. You’re disrupting the conversation ,and the community that exists here.
“Charley is ignorant about the history of the music…”
You couldn’t be more wrong. Charley is one of the best students of the music out there, even if you don’t like his music personally. I’ve been making that point about him for years. Meanwhile, Morgan Wallen literally said he doesn’t even really listen to country.
You like Morgan Wallen. We get it. You’ve said your peace. Now move on.
August 20, 2025 @ 9:12 pm
I could care less personally! This is a discussion place. You don’t want discussion shut it down. I also spoke to you before and told you I find one word discussion answers boring, if you disagree with me, hash it out. Tell me why. Provide evidence. Telling me to shut up like another user did also clogs up the comment section with troll comments that don’t discuss the issues. You posted an article. I’m here discussing it.
I wonder too if those anti Hank 33 usernames are changed names? Maybe? Yet you haven’t spoken to that user? Why?
Also I remember you upset with me for going after Hayley Williams. Called her a bad name. You said we don’t do that here. Yet not 5 minutes later a user came
On and called her a slur.
Go on. Look. Comment is still there,
So no I won’t slow my role. Not going to apologize neither.
That’s not moderating trigger. That’s not doing your job.
August 20, 2025 @ 9:53 pm
Calm down dude. And I stepped away from the computer for a few minutes so it took some time to approve your comments. I’m making a request that you tone it down a notch. I would appreciate if you would respectfully honor my request. I’m not asking you to stop commenting. I’m not asking for one word responses. I have let you have your run of these comments sections on multiple articles. But it is becoming disruptive.
August 21, 2025 @ 7:08 am
I think Charley was speaking loosely saying 25 years but I would consider Toby Keith, Luke Bryan, Trace Adkins, Blake Shelton the foundation of Bro Country and that puts it between 2001-2007.
August 20, 2025 @ 12:18 pm
Bottom line: Charley is in the wrong and Gavin is in the right.
Beyonce wasn’t accepted into the scene because she didn’t make country music, and mostly because as Luke Bryan said we love when artists immerse themselves in our scene, stay a couple months in Nashville, hire our writers and teams, appear on Bobby bones and do some press here, make a temporary home here. Be seen around the city. Beyonce didn’t do that.
Her problem was that instead of highlighting black
Contributions in country music which is admirable and we’d love that, but rather to erase white contributions to the genre overall and minimize them. That’s dishonest, disgusting and anyone here who loves the genre should be outraged at how she conducted herself in doing so. When you start caring more about black peoples contributions to the genre and ignoring whites (and other races) contributions then you’ve lost me. It’s not good faith at all.
Charley is a woke artist, he’s made that clear. Much like Hayley his statement was unnecessary and borne out of jealously and hatred. Disagree with trigger, Gavin adcock is the rising star, Charley has been on the fringes of the scene for a decade. He releases albums seemingly every 6 months but none are major hits and neither is he. Gavin adcock is on the verge of breaking. There’s a major difference.
Charley sees everything through the lens of race. When the majority of country fans don’t. We care about good songs and stories. Period. If you are purple we’d listen if you wrote well. The vibe shift happened with trumps reelection, woke and race baiting art is out. It doesn’t sell. The most popular country artist in the world is a white straight male who codes republican and is an open Christian who has slighted legacy liberal media to their faces. Charley as an npr favorite isn’t cool. It’s lame.
He’s jealous, not just of Morgan but of all these white artists. Megan, Riley, Bailey, Jordan, Ella, they all are straight and white. None of them got success because of it either. They worked their tails off. Charley has been working hard too. But it’s not hitting. He will probably release another 3 albums in this year alone. But people won’t buy it. It’s stale. It’s not popular.
Morgan has done more for our genre than anyone in our lifetimes. He brings fans by the boatload to a genre they never would have been interested in. He tours with country openers who further expose the fans to our genre. He is the face of our genre and has been for half a decade and isn’t slowing down. No one will outsell him in our genre even if Luke or Zach release. He’s it. Literally. He’s also colorblind in a way a Riley or Megan or Ella, for all their great music and art, will never be. His shows are stadium shows. Full of every race, color and creed. All joined in their love of the songs. We owe him a debt of gratitude that awards will never fill. We will never know the number of fans who listened to Dangerous; then explored George Jones and Dolly and are now diehard genre fans. He’s the only person who could do that at such a mass scale.
He also is in our scene, he writes and cowrites in Nashville. He lives here or nearby. He is friends with similarly country centric artists. He’s country through and through in image too. Beyonce is rap and r&b coded. That ain’t country, son.
Charley is a jealous man, blinded by his rage and hatred and resentment that a white straight male is so successful and does his job way better than Charley ever will. The numbers speak for themselves, Morgan dwarfs Charley in every category conceivable. Album sales, concert sales, merchandise sales, social
Media engagement, audience fervor, industry impact, radio play, impact on culture and genre, numbers of artists he influenced and imitators, Morgan doesn’t just dominates, he wipes the floor with Charley. Charley is a peripheral figure in our genre with some buzz. Morgan is the definitive artist of his generation and our lifetimes, the literal face of our genre and is an entire era of not only country music but popular music too. Charley will never be this, ever. He’s a footnote. That’s it. Not the huge figurehead he seems to
Fancy himself.
I’d rather have a conservative coded artist like
Morgan leading our genre than a whiny woke snowflake like Charley any damn day of the week. He’s done more for our genre just off his most recent album than Charley will do in his entire career which seems to be releasing 15 albums every
Year. Yawn!
August 20, 2025 @ 12:35 pm
You mad, bro?
August 20, 2025 @ 12:46 pm
Bro aint mad, just racist. And confused.
August 20, 2025 @ 3:03 pm
I’m just able to acknowledge what Morgan has done wasn’t handed to him, he had to work for it. Jordan and Brady worked hard but they also worked harder than all the other guys who were working hard. There were many QBs who said Brady was a joke and lots of players said Jordan wasn’t scary but they found out.
It’s also hard work to stay at the top. Morgan didn’t just have dangerous be a huge hit and then the next album flopped. The 2 follow-ups have also been huge hits. That’s not just luck.
If you want the success of Morgan you also have to be willing to put in the work he does. And clearly 10 albums a year by Charley isn’t working hard enough.
The reason he is the number country artist on the planet is because he makes music that has captivated our genre and era. Being able to do this isn’t something someone falls into or is handed. It’s something you fight and work for.
I’d love to hear a Charley masterpiece Ala dangerous. Or a song of the year like last night. But that’s the funny thing. Lots of players would say, next time we play the patriots we are shutting them down and stopping Brady. We all know how that turned out .
August 20, 2025 @ 3:46 pm
This is either world class satire or Morgan Wallen himself. I’ll accept no other explanation.
August 21, 2025 @ 11:18 am
You got the worst copypasta ever going on in these replies.
August 20, 2025 @ 12:49 pm
Must be a Nashville Recording Executive:
“Morgan has done more for our genre than anyone in our lifetimes. He brings fans by the boatload to a genre they never would have been interested in.”
Literally spit my drink out at that asshat comment. Wow….not even close bro. I respect MW’s pop success but I prefer Taylor Swift of those who started in country adjacent themes. Plus she’s never dropped N-bombs or assaulted first responders.
Don’t feed the troll folks
August 20, 2025 @ 1:05 pm
Morgan Wallen is objectively not the most popular male artist in the world, nor the most popular country artist in the world. He is an American phenomenon. His last album was briefly No. 1 in some English-speaking countries, yes. But so are the albums of many other artists.
His global streaming numbers and global sales mark him as an upper-middle-range artist, but not a global star. This is an objective, factual and easily verifiable fact.
America has its average mass-compatible pop star. And that’s okay. France, Germany and Türkiye have their own average mass-compatible pop stars. They don’t need an American like Morgan Wallen, who has nothing special to offer musically or lyrically.
He’s just not special or exceptional enough to be hugely successful around the world.
August 20, 2025 @ 1:43 pm
He absolutely is the biggest country artist in the world, male or female. Zach and Luke combs are two and three.
Morgan is the biggest country artist in the world. Period. It’s not even a question. Even trigger acknowledges this. It’s completely self evident.
There’s no one even close.
You are just trolling at this point. I can’t take someone who says Morgan isn’t the biggest in our genre.
Takes 5 seconds to see the data.
Morgan is the biggest in our genre. Without a doubt!
Right trigger?
August 20, 2025 @ 2:33 pm
Most streamed artists 2025 globally (so far): rank 28
https://kworb.net/itunes
Spotify most streamed songs released in 2025 globally so far:
Morgan Wallens highest ranked song: “I’m the problem” rank 45
The Album “I’m the Problem” is not even in the Top 40 of the best selling albums in the UK Charts 2025 (so far):
https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/the-official-biggest-albums-of-2025-so-far/
The biggest music markets outside the US and the UK are Germany, France and Japan.
“I’m the Problem” highest rank in Germany: rank 40
https://www.offiziellecharts.de/charts/album-details-551062
No chart entry in France 2025 (to make it clear: that means MW did not chart in France)
https://acharts.co/france_albums_top_150
No chart entry in Japan 2025 (to make it clear once again: that means MW did not chart in Japan)
https://nantejapan.com/billboard-japan-releases-its-2025-mid-year-charts/
That is enough. Morgan Wallen is not a worldwide star. End of the discussion.
August 20, 2025 @ 3:17 pm
You’d have to take that argument up with Charley, Akade!
Charley said Morgan is the number one artist in country music on planet earth.
So if take up your issue with Charley.
That said no one here is saying in the Congo or Tibet Morgan is the biggest artist.
He is however the biggest country artist in the world. And every artist you’d name who could challenge him like Zach or Luke would agree. Sorry, I’m going to trust them and not my buddy akade.
That’s the facts, point blank period!
August 20, 2025 @ 4:35 pm
Cool but are there other country artists charting in these countries? Cause it seems like you’re moving the goalposts from “biggest country star in the world” to “worldwide artist.” You can be one but not the other.
August 21, 2025 @ 9:55 am
All I know is that Wallen will never be another Haggard, neither will anybody else.
My gut feeling tells me that people will still discover and listen to ol’ Merle a hundred years from now.
Wallen… no.
August 20, 2025 @ 1:16 pm
“Morgan has done more for our genre than anyone in our lifetimes….”
“Morgan is the definitive artist of his generation and our lifetimes…”
Yikes, it’s been awhile since I’ve actually thrown up in my mouth. Seriously tho, the Morgan Wallen stans who constantly bash Beyonce and defend Morgan and the garbage he puts out, is tiring. When it comes to country music, they’ve both proven to be ass…
Also, can’t believe you also name dropped raspy Temu Morgan Wallen (Bailey Zimmerman), as evidence for your point. (btw I’m pretty conservative, before you try to say I’m speaking as a liberal)
August 20, 2025 @ 6:32 pm
I can’t name one Morgan Wallen song that wasn’t written by Isbell.
August 20, 2025 @ 11:24 pm
It’s music.
If you don’t like everything being so politicized, maybe try not making Morgan Wallen, the poster boy for rap-derived sad “bad boy” pop with a twang, into some sort of folk hero.
People listen to it. A lot of people don’t. It’s a product that he sells to people with dubious taste, like much of pop culture historically. He’s not Hank Williams, not even Hank Jr. Nor is he the country version of the Beatles, John Coltrane or Beethoven. He’s a pop artist that’s hot now.
That has nothing to do with saving the country, any sort of culture, or values. In fact, Wallen’s values if you take most of his songs at face value appear to be regret over being a drunk and a screw up, that’s also filthy rich. Those aren’t really core family values or things that need to be defended.
If you care so much about culture and values and your nation, maybe start by valuing artists who say whatever they truly believe and make authentic music, even music you don’t like. By that metric you should respect Charley Crockett. Regardless of how he “codes” or what you think his politics are or if you even like his music.
Otherwise, you just come across like someone who’s either trying to impress a girl who likes Morgan Wallen or you’re harboring some strong feelings you should talk to someone about.
August 20, 2025 @ 12:22 pm
I remember when cowboy Troy came on to the country scene and so many People’s heads exploded. “Country and rap don’t mix” so many fans and country music establishments were crying. Now the majority of bro country has rap in it. So what happened? I personally don’t like rap, and if people want to like it fine.
But so many artists are mixing so many types of music together that it’s hard to keep track of,
I like traditional country, country rock, and alternative country, so I guess I got no right to complain. If people want to like that bro country stuff, then more power to them. I will just listen to the music I like .
August 20, 2025 @ 12:34 pm
I think Charley Crockett’s statement is great. I don’t care if certain time periods are mentioned inaccurately. The most important thing for me is that he correctly categorizes this wannabe hip-hop that the industry and labels call “country”. Morgen Wallen and all that other horrible industrial mainstream s***t is just not country, it’s a hip-hop-leaning pop mishmash.
Finally an independent artist opens his mouth and says what’s going on.
By the way, Benjamin Tod explicitly supported Charley Crockett on Instagram today. Charley obviously spoke to many people with this post.
Thank you Charley Crockett.
August 20, 2025 @ 1:12 pm
I think he hurt his point by admitting that he listens to BigXthaPlug and then defending it.
August 20, 2025 @ 1:30 pm
The kids and public have chosen and spoken. They want what Morgan is selling and don’t want what Charley is selling. If you are upset about Morgan making music you feel is beneath the genre make music you feel is better. But the music Charley makes doesn’t sell like Morgan’s. So who’s at fault? Is it the person making music that taps into the public’s consciousness in a way we’ve never really seen, or is it the guy making music that doesn’t connect with the public and never will on that level? I think it’s the latter. Morgan knows our genre better than Charley which is funny given the tone of his comments. If country fans wanted Morgan forced out of the genre and kicked out and Charley to be our figurehead instead why haven’t they done so? What’s also
Humorous is there has been several points where this could have happened . Post controversy in 2021, Charley could have stepped in and could have reined, but we all know why he didn’t, his music isn’t resonating to millions of fans.
Make better music and maybe you too can
Rule our genre. Until then it’s just sour grapes coming from a lesser artist.
While he seems to more than suggest Morgan is a carpetbagger and isn’t interested in our genre, the fans in our genre love Morgan. Clearly so. Like really really love him.
Morgan does what Charley does but better. He’s a better performer, better stage presence. Better song choices. Better singles. Better marketing. More rabid fanbase. And better overall presentation as an artist. Morgan’s walkouts get more press than any review of Charley’s entire albums get. That should tell you something about the public’s love of Morgan.
Charley and some in our genre and even trigger to a degree have tried to say since 2021 that Morgan was one and done. That he was a fading artists or a flavor of the week. Well it’s 2025 and Morgan is more popular than he ever has been, no one in our genre is even close to his popularity. He’s racked up so
Many hit songs it’s obscene and his concerts are the most successful in all our genre. The idea he is some footnote is fucking absurd cope. He isn’t leaving his throne for quite some time, and when he does he will have created such a staggering legacy in our genre that no one will likely be able to attain similar. He isn’t some plant, he is our genre, in total. The figurehead
of his generation and one of the biggest country artists that’s ever lived.
August 20, 2025 @ 1:30 pm
A lot of artists have defended him. Kaitlin Butts, Kristina Murray and others. I don’t think that Gavin Adcock really understands the gravity of a grassroots following.
August 20, 2025 @ 1:39 pm
He may have a lot of support but so does Gavin. Gavin is the bigger artist. People knock Nickelback too, and I’m sure many artists would publicly come at them, but they are Nickelback. I’m sorry but Kaitlin Butts doesn’t have cultural
Cache or industry clout least not when compared to people like Morgan or Gavin. Gavin got more press off this most recent album than Kaitlin has ever gotten.
Gavin probably doesn’t understand grassroots support because he no longer needs it, whereas Kaitlin does. Gavin isn’t a grassroots artists he is a star. Theres a difference.
I get it you all hate pop country, but it’s popular for a reason. People love it. We can champion lesser known artists all we want but sales rules all. And Gavin is a star on the rise. Charley and Kaitlin are not. Simple as.
August 21, 2025 @ 8:55 am
But Adcock does understand the marketing potential of white identity politics backlash and that’s what he’s doing. I’m not clear on why Charley chose 25 years but in my mind what’s accurate about that is that Country did go through a transition for the worse after 911 when Bill O’Reilly decided to big foot it from his big media perch with right wing cancel culture. Only a handful of people got as jingoistic as Toby Keith did but the long-term result was for more substantive artists to begin moving away from the genre or down from their 90’s peak. Then we started getting the more purely pop acts like Keith Urban or the vapid trash like Jason Aldean. Obviously Nashville machine marketing had a lot to do with that but that country became completely inhospitable to anyone who had anything more to say did as well.
August 21, 2025 @ 8:53 am
Couldn’t agree more. Regardless of the merits of the Beyonce album (I thought some of it was pretty good personally, she’s a heck of a talent, even though I wouldn’t call it country necessarily, she’s really her own genre anyway), it left a real bad taste in my mouth seeing everyone come after her and then turn around and fawn over trap beat Wallen. And it’s even more absurd to me to be going after the guy who is carrying the torch of actual traditional country music when he speaks out and points out this double standard.
August 20, 2025 @ 12:34 pm
“25 years of bro country” is obviously hyperbole and envelops the greater pop/rap/bro/non country radio machine play.. No need to pick the pepper out the fly shit on that one. Gotta give Charley a pass, he is not entering a debate competition. 500 foot viewpoint that ruffled some feathers, whether intended or not. Gavin Adcock responding with an attack on who’s more cowboy just shows what a knuckle dragger he is and its designed to rile his knuckle dragging fan base. He’s also defending his tour partner….cuz, you know….dollars. What a pair the two of them must make on the afterparty. One drives drunk while the other throws shit out the window.
This is really just a couple performers trading barbs. I don’t think it will have any farther ranging consequences than that.
August 20, 2025 @ 1:13 pm
It absolutely is a competition and Charley is getting completely destroyed. Not sure what he thought would happen by going after Morgan fucking wallen but if you go for the king you best not miss and you also better be a somebody yourself. Im not giving Charley a pass at all.
If you can’t sell out a local cafe, probably best not to attack the literal king of your genre who if he played a local cafe would cause an international incident with fans lined up for miles to see him. He is the most significant country artist of our lives. You attack that guy, I have no sympathy for those who push back. And they should.
Megan and Morgan have have some issues in the past but if Megan started publicly going at Morgan at least she could claim she has some success. What the fuck has Charley accomplished on that level? Megan is one of the biggest stars and possibly the biggest female in her age cohort making music in our genre. Charley isn’t even a top 50 country artist overall. He’s a literal nobody in terms of dealing with Morgan and Megan.
Resume matters in all this. You’ve got to be able to put some wins on the board to be able to step to Morgan like that, and Charley has nothing of the sort. It would be like some American idol contestant attacking Carrie. It’s laughable.
How many number ones has Charley had? Number one albums? Stadium tours? How much is he making at each tour stop? How popular are his songs?
If you can’t answer those with some stats of you own you have no business even breathing the same air as Morgan.
Shoo fly! Buzz off
August 20, 2025 @ 1:33 pm
Charley is not getting “destroyed.” The only people who believe this are people that wouldn’t ever listen to his music anyway. Crockett’s star will burn brighter by going after Adcock and Wallen, and Adcock’s star will burn brighter as his 19-year-old fans continue to make him into some folk hero for taking a stand.
August 20, 2025 @ 2:02 pm
Charley burn brighter? That’s easy to do though. He isn’t selling out stadiums or arenas and that’s where the big boys and girls play. And those big boys and girls also actually top the charts and stay there. They don’t drop the next week.
Morgan meanwhile laughs all the way to the bank. Charley’s albums aren’t going to make a single dent in Morgan’s 11 week run at the top.
It’s not Morgan or Gavin’s problem nor ours as country fans that Charley makes music that doesn’t mean as much to us as Morgan’s does. That isn’t my problem. That’s a Charley problem.
If he wants to rule our genre and our charts he needs to make music that’s going to resonate. Morgan is an actual folk hero, and a genre legend. I have no idea what Gavin’s trajectory holds. But I do know Charley will never be our genres face nor should he ever be. You don’t sell records and you don’t make
Music that defines and is the zeitgeist you don’t get the rewards.
If and when Charley makes 3 consecutive albums that stay at number one for eons then maybe star will be something we can discuss.
Until then he is a fringe artist. He isn’t even the face of his sub genre let alone the genre as an overall whole.
If you ain’t Michael Jordan don’t come to Michael Jordan and talk about domination. You dominate Jordan you are in the discussion and conversation. Until then it’s little dogs chirping at the king.
Kings pay no mind to the peons.
August 21, 2025 @ 11:15 am
What the heck is up with you? We get it that you think Morgan Wallen is something special. We get it that you think ticket sales and album sales are the most important. We get it that you hate Charlie Crockett and he lives rent free in your head. What we don’t get is how badly you have made this comment stream suck so badly for anyone that is not in love with a train wreck.
I know you don’t give a swear word about my opinion, but you should know that nearly everyone else on this stream agrees with it. This is after all Saving Country Music and not Saving Pop Music for 13 Year Olds and Guys with Mullets Only.
August 20, 2025 @ 12:35 pm
It might not have been bro, but there was definitely a shift after Garth, Shania and Billy Ray Cyrus hit the scene. Nashville was so busy trying to clone Garth that all the progress from the 80s and early 90s (Steve Earle has dubbed it the Great Country Music Credibility Scare) was pushed out. It became more about sales numbers and spectacle. Country music has always dealt with this. Olivia Newton-John and John Denver come to mind. They were pushed on the fans because of charts and sales numbers and the fans resented it. I discovered alt-country, Texas country, whatever you want to call it in my living room in upstate NY in 1987-88 watching ACL on PBS. Nanci Griffith, Lyle Lovett, Darden Smith, and the list goes on. Then I moved to Texas and found out that I hadn’t even scratched the surface. There’s always been independent artists doing their thing. Musicians have been around longer than record companies.
August 20, 2025 @ 7:11 pm
Garth may not have been bro country but he laid the foundation upon which it was built.
August 20, 2025 @ 12:39 pm
“And so now you have folks tearing apart Charley Crockett“
That’s not what happened at all for the most part. Adcock’s tweet did NOT go over well. He got “ratio’d” as the young people call it.
August 20, 2025 @ 1:08 pm
Yeah it really is just a solid wall of people telling Gavin that he sucks, lol. Almost zero support.
August 20, 2025 @ 1:35 pm
Well, there are people in this very comments section trying to tear Charley Crockett apart. So clearly, somebody is. If Adcock’s getting ratio’d,” that’s a different thing.
August 20, 2025 @ 1:54 pm
There are also people on this post saying Gavin adcock isn’t as big as Charley and that Morgan isn’t the biggest country artist in the world. Thoughts on that?
You hate Gavin and hate Morgan but you can’t possibly tell me Charley is bigger than Gavin can you? You saw the press for Gavin’s album like us all. You know the clientele of Gavin’s crowds and Charley’s crowds. Who would you say in 2025 plays to a wider crowd?
And Morgan? There are multiple commenters saying Morgan isn’t the biggest country artist. You care to comment on that?
August 20, 2025 @ 2:11 pm
Morgan Wallen is clearly the biggest country artist at the moment, in the United States or the world. As for Gavin Adcock vs. Charley Crockett, I don’t know. You’d have to measure overall consumption, and Crockett has a LOT of music out there. I’d say they both draw at about the same level at the moment live.
But this isn’t a dick measuring contest. These two artists come from two different worlds. People thinking they’re battling it out for supremacy is a problem. Charley will continue to do his thing. Morgan and Gavin will continue to do theirs.
August 20, 2025 @ 2:25 pm
LMAO this has to be someone on Adcock’s team (his personal manager, promotions guy, etc) or Gavin himself.
August 20, 2025 @ 6:04 pm
It’s Adcock’s bottom. And not the body part.
August 21, 2025 @ 9:30 am
Careful.
Adcock will give you a noogie.
August 21, 2025 @ 10:04 am
Hank 33, now you’re just trolling.
Make salient points or move on.
August 20, 2025 @ 12:40 pm
I guess Charley Crockett is at that point in his career where he’s namedropping pop stars and starting beefs and controversies on social media – a well worn strategy a lot of hip-hop artists employ to get on the larger pop-culture radar.
That said, I’m not sure what he’s implying about rap music or its association with pop country artists considering he started out busking on NYC subway trains with music that had a distinct jazz/funk/hip-hop influence – flavors present on his earliest albums but now gone (sadly, I prefer those earlier albums). Speaking of revisionism, why’d he update the cover artwork on his first set of albums from photos of himself as a bohemian jazzbo in loafers and a fedora to photos of himself as a 70’s-era cowboy in boots and a Stetson?
Clearly there’s a lot of calculation in everything he does now, curating his own mythology, revising inconvenient truths, deliberately elevating himself into the mainstream. Whether that is, or even feels, authentic or not is up for debate but as they say in the hip-hop world – don’t hate the player, hate the game.
August 21, 2025 @ 7:53 am
I saw him open for Turnpike in 2017 and it was a painfully long slog of mythology and acting with the occasional tune.
August 20, 2025 @ 12:41 pm
It’s kind of funny watching all this play out when ZERO of the artists mentioned in this article are traditional country. Yall need better experts.
August 20, 2025 @ 12:42 pm
That guy who tried to mock Charley gave in much cock but has no balls.
August 20, 2025 @ 12:50 pm
Who is Gavin Adcock? Never heard of her.
August 20, 2025 @ 12:57 pm
“The machine points to a black woman who’s making a statement about marginalized people being removed from the conversation altogether, and somehow we all act like the entire pop industry didn’t just ambush roots music.“
Does he realize roots music was made and appreciated by more than just black people? I don’t think he does. This is what I meant when I said we hated Beyonces country effort because it wasn’t doing what Charley says it did. It wasn’t about big upping black artists in the genre. His statement explicitly is about silencing white voices within the genre to prop up and exaggerate black voices and suggest they wed the sole creators of the genre. Which is outright ludicrous.
“I don’t need to put down a black woman to advance my music. That’s just embarrassing to the idea of America and I got no respect for it.”
This is insane. It’s explicitly saying if you criticize a black artist you are a racist. This itself is racist and it takes agency away from the groups he loves. If blacks are so fragile they can’t deal with critiques that artists of all colors deal with, then it plays
Into racist stereotypes. If any artist releases something they have to be critiqued, just because someone is a black woman why should they be praised for that solely, and given good reviews. Review need to be reviews on the art not profiles in woke courage.
“#1 country artist on earth listen’s to nothing but rap. Openly says he doesn’t really know any country music. Gotta respect his honesty.”
Strange that’s a slight by him. He could listen to polka music solely, but he absolutely has steel on some
Songs here and other albums. His roots are country even if he says otherwise. And as stated before he brings the most amount of people to country from
Outside of the genre we’ve ever seen. Even more than Garth who was obviously massive. Morgan attracting a rap crowd to his shows isn’t a bad thing, Im not sure why Charley views this as negative. Why would attracting an outside the genre crowd be bad for the genre? Charley isn’t bringing people to the genre, Morgan is. And in numbers never seen before. The goal is to gain more country converts. Morgan wins this hands down genre wide.
“Hey country folks. @beyonce ain’t the source of your discontent … These “country boys” been *singing* over trap beats for years.”
Is country in a bad place in 2025 with a lot of complaining? I must have missed that. We are a dominant genre. We’ve never been more popular and successful. Tours are going gangbusters. Country albums are lighting up the charts and staying there. The amount of stars in our genre is incredible, the depth is insane and we have superstars in the wings waiting. We have a bullpen full. People
Complaining about the genre will exist until Jesus comes back, but are people really pissed about the state of country in 2025? This is the literal best time to be a country fan. It’s the big genre, it’s cool and hip, it’s of the moment, all the rock stars have been replaced by country stars.
It’s just the kind of country Charley makes isn’t selling. That’s the impetus for his whining. The number one artist is country music isn’t him, meaning Charley. It’s someone else. And the number one country artist will never be Charley. Ever. And that must be hard for him to deal with. But it’s reality. I don’t want Charley as a spokesman for our genre. He sure as fuck doesn’t speak for me and mine. His values aren’t mine. He doesn’t make music that resonates to the deep extent Morgan’s has. Nor will he ever, even if Charley makes the Grammy award winning album
Of the year. That’s not in the cards for him. Morgan has touched popular culture and country music culture in a way few artists ever have. He is an anomaly and special in our genre. There are 15 Charley’s busking on lower broadway daily. His template is
NPR woke coded which is basic as Hell. There’s only one Morgan. He’s the only person on earth who could make the art he does. Tucker is on the rise but he will
Never be as big as Morgan.
It’s ironic Charley focuses so much on authenticity and doesn’t seem to extend it to include himself. People have spoken and chosen, they find Morgan authentic. Non authentic people don’t spend half a year as the number one album. They don’t attract millions to concerts. They don’t become figureheads for an entire genre. Authenticity has spoken and its name is Morgan. People also just want fun music. Hard times isn’t a fun record. It’s stale, staid and monotone. People want party music, and music to listen to in their daily lives not to cry about. Morgan’s music is fun.
Charley’s music has been done by 1950s and 1960s early era artists before. And it’s been done better, by those early originators. Why listen to his style when I could listen to someone do it better? He’s a copy. A fake. A snake oil salesman.
The crowd has spoken Charley. And we chose and choose Morgan. His complaint sounds like someone in 2021 and trying to figure out why Morgan was on the rise to superstardom. No, he is there. He’s staying there and there isn’t a damn thing Charley can do about it. Certainly none of Charley’s albums or songs will knock Morgan out of the top spot. Instead of whining like a woke snowflake, maybe create music that appeals to the masses and not a npr leftist and maybe you will go far! Until then I’m streaming Morgan until the wheels fall off.
August 20, 2025 @ 1:49 pm
Adcock will supplant Morgan in 2026.
August 20, 2025 @ 9:56 pm
Figured out what I’m doing yet trigger?
I’m finding every single post that is responding to me that you haven’t allowed me to post on yet.
The point. A lot of this comments section isn’t responding to your article, it’s responding to my posts about your article, as in I’m driving some engagement in the comments . Not all of it but certainly some.
Seems odd you’d allow people to comment on my posts but not allow me to respond. Why?
August 20, 2025 @ 10:29 pm
Yes, you’re leaving comments about comments. Actually leave an actual comment, and as long as it fits the comment rules, I will approve it.
August 22, 2025 @ 4:29 am
Dude, where are your meds? Your OCD is taking over.
August 20, 2025 @ 12:59 pm
“Then when Crockett says, “we all act like the entire pop industry didn’t just ambush roots music,” he seems to be attempting to marginalize Beyoncé’s major role in this very ambush. In large part, she spearheaded it.”
This is blatantly false. At most, she rode the wave that you documented in pretty good detail in the paragraphs above.
Multiple songs on cowboy Carter are as “country” as a lot of what is still to this day being played on country radio, and particularly Wallen. You love to skirt around that fact by pointing out that we’re in a different era now, but I think you make a good argument in this article that we still aren’t really out of that era. I respect that you try to respect Beyonce saying that it’s not a country album, but it’s objectively as much a country album as some albums and artists you cover.
August 20, 2025 @ 1:41 pm
“Multiple songs on cowboy Carter are as “country” as a lot of what is still to this day being played on country radio, and particularly Wallen. You love to skirt around that fact by pointing out that we’re in a different era now…”
That was literally the very first point I made when breaking down Charley Crockett’s comments. My very first point where I said he was 100% correct.
I completely understand that making a big point about how Bor-Country hasn’t been around for 25 years can come across as pedantic or hectoring. But I actually think it’s really important. If you listen to Morgan Wallen’s last album, it is NOT Bro-Country. I went out of my way to make that point in my review. Bro-Country was marked by lyricism about beer, trucks, girls, backroads, and often features hip-hop cadences. That album actually has very little of that. You do have tons of trap beats and electronic stuff. But it’s more of a post Bro Southern pop album.
Bro-Country was a very specific and distinct thing that existed in a very distinct era. I do think we’ve moved on from that era for for multiple years now, even if a few stray singles indicative of it pop up occasionally on country radio.
August 20, 2025 @ 4:09 pm
I know you didn’t mean to (just got a lttle quick on the keypad), but “Bore-Country” is a pretty good term. Maybe there’s a spot for it on the Country Dewey Decimal System?
August 20, 2025 @ 7:11 pm
“That was literally the very first point I made when breaking down Charley Crockett’s comments. My very first point where I said he was 100% correct.”
And I gave you credit for that in the rest of the sentence immediately after you ended the quote. You’re telling me something I already acknowledged and said you did a good job with. I’m saying in the past when refusing to recognize that songs on the album are in fact country songs, even if the whole album isn’t, you’ve pointed to the fact that FGL isn’t topping the charts anymore that we are in a different era where country has become more country, which, like you highlighted well and I gave you credit for, is partly true and partly false. We’ve moved on mostly from bro country, but pop country hasn’t gone anywhere, even if better country has found much more of a footing, thanks in large part to your work.
August 20, 2025 @ 1:00 pm
The sad part is Beyonce would make an amazing country record with her talent and voice. What she released just wasn’t very good and I think that’s what upsets people about her pushing into the space that is C&W.
August 20, 2025 @ 1:42 pm
Huge, missed opportunity for Beyonce to do what so many people are giving her credit for, which is reclaiming and highlighting the Black roots of country music. Instead, she made a mostly pop album with some minor country textures. To her credit, she was up front it wasn’t country. It’s the world that seems to not want to listen to her.
August 20, 2025 @ 1:53 pm
Always hateful Beyonce was dissing Country music and its people. That is why Cowboy Carter sucked.
She is painted into a corner.
Babylon is fallen.
August 20, 2025 @ 1:23 pm
From this article, today I learned / realized that Gavin Adcock and Graham Barham aren’t the same dude. 🙂
August 20, 2025 @ 9:23 pm
I’m still trying to figure out if Gavin Adcock or Morgan Wallen is the Biggest Country Artist in the History of the Known Universe!!
August 20, 2025 @ 1:49 pm
Gotta love how people here act like
Trolls or don’t address the arguments, and make trolling comments. Either post and comment on the arguments made or don’t post at all.
I’m here to discuss and debate, I’ve never understood people who go to comment sections and read a rant and post “someone sounds mad”. Either debate my points or agree with them but explain why.
If your response to me suggesting Morgan is the biggest country artist of our lifetime, and you disagreed. Cool! Make some argument for someone else and present some evidence. Otherwise it’s just acting rude and gross to those of us who want to discuss about our genre.
I’ve never understood those who just post just to post. Say something, make an argument, go off. But to post one sentence replies and act like that’s a slick
Burn or something is absolutely asinine.
You all are adults. Make the argument.
August 20, 2025 @ 2:32 pm
There is no argument. Wallen is more popular, sells more tickets, has has more streams, downloads and album sales than Charley Crockett. By what is defined as country by the music industry, you are correct that Wallen is the biggest artist. Those things do not matter to me or the others “trolling” you. We simply have very different metrics and tastes when it comes to music. Now please shut the fuck up.
August 20, 2025 @ 2:37 pm
Everyone is more than welcome to stop calling Morgan ‘country’ – a guy that writes that many earworms per record can decide what he is, just keep them hits comin’.
August 20, 2025 @ 2:40 pm
Appreciate your comment. But Charley started the comparison and competition. Gavin and Morgan did not have Charley in their radar. Gavin responded to Charley. It the other way around. And Morgan could
Legitimately not know who Charley even is.
Charley began his screed by mentioning popular music that is popular in the charts. And singling out the #1 biggest country on the planet. Morgan didn’t bring that up. He isn’t waving his awards and chart success in Charley’s face. In fact it’s us fans who seem more upset and sad he isn’t and hasn’t gotten more industry awards.
The screed by Charley absolutely in some part was motivated by jealousy. As was Hayley’s rant.
Morgan is dominant and they aren’t. Hank styled country isn’t topping the charts even though we wish it was! And pop
Punk no longer is what teens are scarfing down in terms of music consumption. I love Hank styled stuff, but to hate Morgan because your own career isn’t bigger or as big as his? That’s stuff children do. It’s beneath Charley and also beneath Morgan. Morgan is a humble dude despite his massive success.
Your comment about the different worlds is the whole point of why Charley is out to lunch. They are different artists, speak to different crowds and fans and have wildly different cultural impacts. I’m not going to say Charley hasn’t made any impact but again comparing yourself to Morgan is going to cause major backlash if you don’t have the hardware to back it up. If Loretta and Willie went after each other I’d have hated that but they are equal artists.
The whole point is he seems to suggest he isn’t more successful because of racism, and in beyonces case sexism, or capitalism when we know that isn’t the case.
Lots of hard workers in our genre. Most if not all will never achieve Morgan’s success. He is once in a generation. But the reaction to that shouldn’t be to shit on Morgan and his fans and to say he isn’t deserving of that success. No he absolutely does deserve his success. He worked hard too!
I really really hate when people blame others for their own failings or their art not hitting. Not everyone can create a shotgun Willie, in fact the only person who could have created it was Willie. But that doesn’t mean Willie was illegitimate or the system is nefarious. Charley doesn’t deserve his success or to be a star just because he’s a person of color. If that was the case the majority of Nashville artists would be Morgan. They aren’t and never will be. It’s not my fault people can’t or won’t be the guy or girl. That’s not my job to change it either. Dangerous was a once in a lifetime album, and the two post that album seem to be as well. That’s probably why Morgan’s big, not because he’s white. A black country artist could make dangerous. The reality though of course is they didn’t.
August 20, 2025 @ 2:56 pm
Saying you are correct failed. What can be said that will make you shut the fuck up?
August 20, 2025 @ 6:20 pm
Adcock and Wallen must be smaller than average if this guy can still type while jerking them off.
August 20, 2025 @ 3:43 pm
I’d just like to comment on what Gavin Adcock said today, as that’s what really stuck in my craw.
I said it elsewhere and will say it here:
I will freely admit I was not keen at all on Charley Crockett’s re-recording of ”Jamestown Ferry” — his first recording of it on Lil’ G.L.’s Honky Tonk Jubilee was excellent and IMO could never be topped — but hearing that first recording of that song was how I first had Charley Crockett come to my attention. I had Gavin Adcock come to my attention when I read the story from SCM about the indirect callout of Adcock’s concert behaviors. Between that, this whole thing with Charley Crockett, and Adcock seemingly picking fights with everyone under the sun, it strikes me that he wants to craft an image as an artist that is, shall we say, at odds with his rather milquetoast music. Which makes him an even bigger poseur than he proclaims Charley Crockett to be. Like damn, guy, pull the beam out of your own eye.
August 21, 2025 @ 11:26 am
Seems like that’s the majority of Adcock’s MO is just to pick fights and be drunk at concerts to stay relevant and gain a following of people who want to see a car wreck, the music being good or not is just optional
August 20, 2025 @ 5:07 pm
Lotta weird racist comments about Charley Crockett on here, ngl. I would suggest a book on the history of of passing and colorism but some of y’all probably can’t read. He has talked openly about not being able to fit in with white people nor black people, which is a common occurrence with mixed race kids. His songs about being an outsider are legit as they come.
August 20, 2025 @ 5:52 pm
Not true. He had tons of friends and college classmates both black and white in NYC who played music with him and put him in their student films. He wasn’t homeless. He lived with college roommates in a walk up on MacDougal street by the Olive Cafe and Comedy Cellar..
Crockett is a thankless liar trying to use race to benefit his inflated image of himself.
He sucks.
August 20, 2025 @ 5:37 pm
I’ve heard the Cosplay/dress up Cowboy argument in Texas since 2000, specifically with the Derailers, Wayne Hancock, and even Dale Watson. Mr. Crockett has valid points but lost my confidence with musical judgments and time frames because Still Tippin came out in 2003, and that is Texas hip hop and is deathless,
August 20, 2025 @ 5:52 pm
Wayne Hancock is the real deal.
August 20, 2025 @ 5:41 pm
Morgan will be remembered in country music history. Charley will not. How could he have released so many albums and songs and not had a hit that is a household hit, that your mom and grandma have heard. He doesn’t and never will. Because he’s a fraud. And a huckster. It’s trash music. He’s invaded our music and our history, our culture and then lectures us about what is and what is not country. Fuck that. I won’t be lectured about our history by someone who doesn’t know it.
Morgan already has changed country music forever and left an indelible mark that will be felt for generations. I’d be surprised if Charley even makes it into the hall of fame. Took Morgan what, his debut to get up down up down a big hit. Then dangerous changed everything. Listen to the radio, everyone sounds like Morgan and is influenced by him. No one is copying Charley, because Charley is a copy.
Plus Morgan just makes fun music. If I’m on a boat, on the lake, at a bar, at a club trying to see what I can scoop up, getting amped for the clubs, at a house party. Or even feeling sad, Morgan has a song for that.
No one gets hype to Charley. It’s dumb. I hate it all. All! I don’t want to get ready for the bar and listen to hard times! Fuck that shit.
August 20, 2025 @ 6:40 pm
I’d be surprised if Charley even makes it into the hall of fame
That isn’t the slam you think it is. While the CMHOF isn’t as bad as the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in that regard, there are myriad revered, legendary singers and musicians who have yet to make it in.
I doubt you’d know any of their names, though.
August 22, 2025 @ 4:32 am
There we have it. You want fun music to get ready for the bar with. That’s pop, man.
August 20, 2025 @ 6:21 pm
Wonder if Gavin Adcock is the grandson of 1950’s and 1960’s MLB slugger Joe Adcock,whom teammate Henry Aaron once heard musing that one of Joe Adcock’s pals couldn’t find an “N” word in Harlem.If so,the apple didn’t fall far from the tree.
August 20, 2025 @ 6:27 pm
Can I just say that I am shocked that Gavin Adcock even knows that Charley sings Jamestown Ferry- let alone that it’s a cover?! Also- SCM has had some crazy comment sections, but this one takes the cake. There are some scary, obsessive, delusional people on this thread!
August 20, 2025 @ 7:31 pm
I’ve never seen so many insecure white dudes gathered in one place since there was an oath keeper meet up in the parking lot of my part time college job.
August 21, 2025 @ 7:54 am
White should be capitalized.
August 22, 2025 @ 10:00 am
White Dudes for Kamala
August 21, 2025 @ 8:15 am
You’re spot on.
Also, unfortunately, reading through the comments it seems we have someone who either just loves Morgan’s success, or is from East TN. I am, in fact I’m from Morgan’s “hometown”. Which is a partial lie to begin with.
They are somewhat polarized by his stardom.
But the people who want you to accept him regardless are deluded. I’m not swayed by hometown pride. Do I think Morgan could make better quality music, sure. I doubt he will. But he gets to have his limelight.
But I don’t go out of my way to hate him, no. He just Is.
But I’ll tell you, the sheer amount of artists NOT being played so they can spin him 4 times/hr is sickening.
Also, the timing of Bro Country isn’t important to me, It happened, and now Luke B and Jason Aldean, et al….get to never lift a finger again to make a buck.
Also Gavin even knowing that Jamestown Ferry was a cover says he has some knowledge.
You unfortunately have to let these people shake it out. I’ve learned this from 38 years of loving country music.
August 20, 2025 @ 7:11 pm
I’m not concerned about the exact timing of bro country. Whatever came before it sucked too.
By Y2K country radio sucked. Went from 70% respectable songs to 30% and continued down from there.
I stopped reading Billboard Country Update around 2010 when I realized I didn’t even recognize 95% of the names on the charts.
I’m not sure why you’re going out of your way to drag down Charlie.
August 20, 2025 @ 7:33 pm
Not really sure how how anyone could characterize that I’m “dragging down” Charley Crockett here. I did feel it was important to parse through what he said since his comments had gone viral, and to be frank, some of them were a little misleading. I’m seeing folks trying to contort themselves into believing Bro-Country has been around for 25 years. But I think it’s okay to say, “Eh, he was probably embellishing there for dramatic purposes.”
August 20, 2025 @ 7:14 pm
In reference to the last couple of paragraphs—
“Cosplay Cowboys” have put out some of the best Western music in the last fifty years. They can’t all be Chris Ledoux or Corb Lund. A lot of the cosplay arguments about/against Charlie could be applied to Corb–who once fronted a punk rock band.
Musically, I’ll ride with Charlie Crockett any day. Listening to and enjoying his tunes is not the same as expecting him to be a pickup man at the IFR or a cowpuncher from the high plains of Wyoming.
Crockett’s biggest mistake in this deal is what almost everyone these days is guilty of doing–creating a strawman fallacy. One thing I like about this site is that the author seems to try as hard as anyone in journalism to avoid building false arguments that tear down.
August 21, 2025 @ 6:12 am
Just here for the Corb and Chris appreciation
August 20, 2025 @ 7:25 pm
Trig – over the years, I can’t think of more than a few things I’ve ever disagreed with you about, but even though you come pretty close to holding Charley accountable for a shit take here, you’re still giving him too much credit. Gavin was right, this was a totally shit take. You don’t quite say it, but you’re correct in sort of implying Charley isn’t good enough to say shit like this. I get he’s the independent guy that’s true to the craft and Gavin is purposely a dickhead. But as purist as I am, I think there’s some value in admitting Adcock has some objectively good tunes (because he does) despite him being a vapid dickhead because it sells. No, Adcock isn’t putting out a Diamonds and Gasoline anytime soon, but he’s so much better than where we came from just 10 or so years ago that I fear we’re just demonizing these guys when they actually have a point just because they’re not soft spoken indy folk heroes, even though they’re a hell of a lot more country than what “country music” was when it desperately needed saving.
August 20, 2025 @ 8:01 pm
Honestly, I tried to not consider my feelings on either of these dude’s music in how I regarded Charley Crockett’s comments. And to be frank, I wouldn’t call myself familiar enough with Gavin Adcock’s music to give an informed assessment. I just started listening to his new album this week, and hope to review it eventually. With 24 tracks though, it’s going to take some time.
August 21, 2025 @ 9:21 am
…that prospect makes watching an aquaman movie almost a treat. one feels for you.
August 21, 2025 @ 6:26 pm
‘Gavin Adcock; better than bro country”
August 21, 2025 @ 12:09 am
…making anything that gavin adcock says or does a referential topic – seriously?
August 21, 2025 @ 6:48 am
I’ve said this multiple times now: People are inadvertently making Gavin Adcock into a folk hero, similar to what they did with Morgan Wallen. This isn’t just an observation, it’s a warning. I understand why Charley Crockett decided he needed to speak on the Beyonce matter. But when you’re answering to Gavin Adcock, you run the risk of bringing yourself down to his level, or elevating him to yours.
August 21, 2025 @ 4:49 am
Wallen and Adcock fans do not understand the independent country musics scene. Morgan and Adcock are going to have hits because they are mainstream country. Look, I like a bunch of their songs, but they certainly move away from the instruments that make country music. There is little ( actually I think there is no fiddle on their new albums) country sounds on the albums. It’s Eric Church rock with rap influences. Charley (call him an actor all you want) makes country and blues music. Real music. His audience is different than Wallen and Adcock. All the these guys have hits stuff doesn’t matter. The style of music is different. If Crockett wanted to make mainstream country, he could. I am sure it would be better than those guys too. I will say like it or not country included all these guys. People are over reacting to this.
August 21, 2025 @ 4:57 am
If there was 1 person on this forum who I would guess would pay money for the chance to give Morgan Wallen a handy j in a truck stop parking lot, I think I know who I’d pick……
August 21, 2025 @ 7:58 am
The hard work argument above is asinine.
Loads of crummy artists work hard. Their music might suck but that doesn’t mean they didn’t grind or put effort in.
It is like saying the worst starting quarterback in the NFL doesn’t work hard. He likely does. He just doesn’t have the skills.
Crockett’s argument started off fine until he went all race card.
I am not happy Wallen is the biggest thing in country music (though Sand in My Boots is better than Crockett song) but he found a niche and exploited it. Just like Crockett did.
August 21, 2025 @ 8:08 am
I find it funny that everyone invokes the old outlaws constantly to prove whose side and opinion is better and more “outlaw”. its getting annoying, toxic, and brain dead. And frankly its getting worse as country just like the rest of america, is confused and divided. It seems country music has two teams here lately and everyone always thinks their side is more country than the other. Its insufferable and the people here in the comments only prove that. Twitter and Instagram alike infested with this garbage more than ever as country is now more popular.
People think just because the Waylons and David Alans didnt simp for American traditionalism or bro country that they would be *checks notes* progressive bootlickers? The point is they didnt like any boots, nobodys, zero. Half them flew the confederate flag and sung about dixie at least once for gods sake. I saw someone the other day on instagram say morgan wallen is a bro country loser and real outlaws support Beyonce. Meanwhile the song on the video was, wait for it, Hank Williams JR?. The absolute irony. Or they’ll lambast “the industry” and “the machine” and “conservative clean cut country” but yet play, George Strait and Randy Travis in their videos
Im not saying one side is more wrong than the other. Im saying this is getting dumb and everyone needs to chill out. Listen to what you want.
August 21, 2025 @ 8:51 am
Yes, I saw some of this Outlaw invocation going on amid the recent Tyler Childers release, with some mega viral Instagram/TikTok posts all claiming country music’s Outlaw movement was a left-leaning political movement. Sure, that can account for Kris Kristofferson, some of Willie Nelson’s stances, and maybe some of Johnny Cash’s. But try telling that to Merle Haggard, or Johnny Paycheck, or David Allan Coe. The Outlaw movement wasn’t political, it was cultural, and of course, people fit their perspectives and fact patterns to whatever argument they want to make, and assign motivations to these country legends they never espoused.
August 21, 2025 @ 6:43 pm
The culture war is rotting people’s brains, for real.
August 22, 2025 @ 6:48 pm
@SG83–“Half them flew the confederate flag and sung about dixie at least once for gods sake.”
You really shouldn’t hold people from prior eras to whatever the politically correct standards of today are.
Up until the 2000s or maybe the 1990s, displays of the Confederate flag were generally viewed as just a symbol of Southern heritage and pride and not anything racist or offensive.
“Dukes of Hazzard” was one of the top-rated TV shows of the 1970s-80s. Elementary school kids brought Dukes of Hazard lunchboxes with Confderate flag logos to school in New York and Boston and San Francisco–not just in the South–and nobody complained or tried to ban it.
Johnny Cash sang “Ghost Riders in the Sky” on the MUPPET show in front of a Confederate flag backdrop and it was shown on TV across the country and there’s no record of anybody raising a ruckus over it. Cash also wrote and sang songs like “God Bless Robert E. Lee.”
Ths song was meant to be healing and inclusive and that’s how it was received at the time
And Dwight Yoakam, recognized as a pretty progressive personaltiy, as recently as 1988, had a #1 hit with “I Sang Dixie,” literally and ode to the song “Dixie” and a dying old southern soldier who was comforted by it.
And, of course, “Confederate Railroad” was a successful, mainstream, country band in the ’90s, that conveyed an image of big lugs who were nice-guy softies, at heart.
Now, displaying the Confederate flag is viewed by many as equivalent to parading in full Hitler regalia wih a swastika. If “I Sang Dixie” did not exist and Dwight Yoakam were to sing and release it today, he’d be seen as part of the alt-right and accused of peddling hate. And Confdereate Railroad has actually been banned from some concert line-ups.
August 21, 2025 @ 8:15 am
Just saw Charley w/ Jake Penrod last night here in Wichita, packed house and amazing show!
I’d like to see a full show of Jake’s.
Also funny that with all the current events, Adcock is here tonight, I’ll pass.
August 21, 2025 @ 8:23 am
“If I’m on a boat, on the lake, at a bar, at a club trying to see what I can scoop up, getting amped for the clubs, at a house party. Or even feeling sad, Morgan has a song for that.” This is the new measuring stick for the quality of country music. Now I can die at peace.
August 21, 2025 @ 3:12 pm
Pop music that appeals to the masses is kind of the lowest common denominator. Fine for those times but not exactly art. At least to some of us. I don’t get the appeal but you do you and enjoy what you like.
Now these Wallen Stans are a whole other story. You might be worse than the beehive or the Swifties. Just sayin’.
August 21, 2025 @ 9:48 am
Never thought I’d see the day where the comments/commenters on a this site were defining Morgan Wallen of all “country artists”. Me thinks there’s a glaring reason. I’m not a crockett fan myself (nothing against him. His sound just isn’t my vibe), but damn. The defense of wallen in this comments section is wild..
August 21, 2025 @ 10:06 am
It’s all pretty much one dude. Let’s not let it represent the entire readership of Saving Country Music.
August 22, 2025 @ 7:31 pm
There is one very loud and obnoxious voice. But that voice is not the only one here. We see similar responses to beyonce articles. There’s a reason this genre has the reputation it does. This comment section is proof in the pudding.
August 21, 2025 @ 1:07 pm
Since we’re in the great salad bowl of grievances, gatekeepers and Gen X, can someone help me out with something that has bugging me for years: who’s video did Bo Jackson appear in around 1994? Got zero play on Midwest radio, but one of the country networks that actually ran videos had it in regular rotation. Was it Trini Triggs? Smokin Armadillos?
August 21, 2025 @ 5:15 pm
Smokin Armadillos. There’s a throwback to how bad some of the 1990s popular country was!
August 21, 2025 @ 6:59 pm
If Charley is lucky he’s 1/8 Black at most. This qualifies as just ‘Black’ now, Trigger?
Where would we po’ black folk be without White dudes like you to remind us about how angry we need to be.
August 22, 2025 @ 5:09 pm
So Crockett isn’t black is what you’re saying? I don’t care either way: the guy is overrated.
August 21, 2025 @ 7:09 pm
Nice thing about the radio is you can turn it off if you don’t like what you’re hearing.
It’s been interesting watching Charley Crockett come up. I enjoyed some of his songs early on as he was going viral alongside Tyler, Colter, and the rest.
I was curious what the industry would do with him
I don’t follow him regularly or keep up with his releases. Nonetheless, every so often, one of his songs crosses my radar and I enjoy it. He’s good for an earworm. His delivery stands out and his production is clean.
He might have his origins in subway busking but is he the only up and comer with “big city”/non traditional roots? Seems a dumb reason to discount his contributions. Gillian Welch and Shovels & Rope caught similar shit from an esteemed LA music critic. Is Adcock, in his rise, a reliable gatekeeper of authenticity?
Gavin Adcock comes across as a blowhard and a wannabe Hank Jr.
Why can’t we have both and just enjoy em for what they are?
August 22, 2025 @ 3:32 am
Is Adcock, in his rise, a reliable gatekeeper of authenticity?
He absolutely isn’t. Adcock has less than zero room to call out Charley Crockett or anyone else for lack of authenticity. He’s out there trying to cultivate an image as an uber-Outlaw with music that sounds like late-2000s Keith Urban B-sides. I remember having a similar take on Eric Church — that is, I had issues with the image Church was trying to put in people’s heads with music that didn’t really match it — but frankly, Gavin Adcock makes Eric Church look like Billy Joe Shaver in comparison.
August 21, 2025 @ 8:01 pm
The discourse around “authenticity” is so weird. C’mon, it’s not like “I went to college for biomedical engineering” Chris Stapleton ever actually heard the midnight train to Memphis from a jail cell, and Johnny Cash certainly never shot a man in Reno just to watch him die. Riders in the Sky have been beloved Western Opry members for 30 years (more?) and have multiple graduate degrees among them, including a PhD in particle physics from MIT. Nobody accuses them of being inauthentic, because they have a musical act that people like and which fits in beautifully among the broad spectrum of Americana, roots and country music. Who cares if Charley Crockett has friends who went to school in NY and used to play the blues in the subways? Right now he’s got a great musical act that reflects his mixed American heritage- all parts of it (except klezmer, at least not yet) and he puts on a GREAT live show. Comparing him and MW is like comparing Bud Lite to your local brewery’s IPA or Weissbier- totally different things, for different customers with different tastes.
August 22, 2025 @ 3:39 am
This. To add to the discussion- The Seldom Scene is one of the most legendary Bluegrass bands of all time and they had decidedly un-backwoods backgrounds. Mathematician, doctor, graphic designer…
I definitely think that authenticity can make an artist more intriguing but the whole fired up debate over it is so weird.
August 24, 2025 @ 8:58 pm
B- great comment. The original Seldom Scene (who are, AFAIK, still going but with no original members) was one of the tightest vocal bands you’ll find and put most country acts to shame with their harmonies and instrumental prowess. John Duffy, original mandolin player and decidedly high lonesome tenor, had a parent who was an opera singer and grew up in the DC suburbs, but he was one of the most authentic country voices you’d ever hear.
August 22, 2025 @ 4:34 am
This is the most measured and rational take, and so will probably be ignored.
August 22, 2025 @ 4:35 am
I am honestly so tired of this stuff. Granted, I’m significantly less passionate about it than I was before.
And the whole race thing is just nauseating, at this point, from Shaboozey’s dumb reaction to a teleprompter comment by Megan Moroney to this ongoing Beyonce nonsense. It’s overblown, unnecessary, and if it doesn’t go away at some point, it’s runs the risk of pushing people away from being passionate about music beyond simply listening to it. I want to care about the greater issues with the country music industry, but I do not want to exclusively and exhaustively look at them through a political lens.
August 22, 2025 @ 7:34 am
Some crazy stuff in the comments but ill try to focus on the article. While i think the 25 years on the bro country is just a generality i dont feel its too far off. Music sways dont generally have a def origin, its generally a small trickle effect. The early 2000s def had a lot of stuff that in retrospect led to the bro sound later. The stuff popular on the radio now isnt that different from the bro stuff so i dont think it has ended. As far as charley on beyonce, it makes sense. Charley doesnt really stick to one type of music so i have no issue with him sticking up for her music choices. Lots of artist anymore are trying not to be pigeonholed into one type of music and that to me is a good thing. My only issue with it is when it comes to awards and recognition. Specific categories are meant to honor artists within those genras and giving the awards in those specific genras to artist who look at their music as genraless does disrespect those artist that play specific types of music. Create a different award if you want to honor genraless music. Far as him bringing up wallen. He doesnt have a problem with wallen. All he is saying is if you have no problem with wallen being labeled a country artist all the while hes playing music that in most respects isnt country, then you shouldnt have an issue with beyonce doing the same thing. The only difference being morgan has dabbled wuth country in the past while beyonce has mainly been a pop artists but to me it doesnt matter in the moment. The problem i see here is charley specifically call anyone out while gavin did which is wrong. Its ok to have an opinion but dont get mad at someone with a different view and try to call them out on it and make it personal.
August 22, 2025 @ 7:58 am
Somehow, this chain of comments is getting tedious. I like Charley Crockett and I like maybe 30% of Morgan Wallen’s music. Referring to sales as an indicator of quality or merit is ridiculous. By that standard Mc Donald’s is the best restaurant on the planet because it has the most sales volume.
August 22, 2025 @ 11:52 am
“This is the reason it was so important to fight back against Bro-Country in its era”? I prefer to just not pay any attention to it. I never have, never will. I can’t even name a single bro-country song.
I’m a fan of Charlie’s but Joe Rogan? Why? I thought the same thing when Sturgill went on there. Are you really that desperate for more dopey fans?
August 22, 2025 @ 12:05 pm
Everyone is wrong. The universe is large enough to love Morgan Waller and CHARLEY
August 22, 2025 @ 8:42 pm
I’d rather listen to someone scratching a chalkboard over that clown Morgan Waller who I can’t even name a song by.
August 23, 2025 @ 8:16 am
I do not think it is a double standard to say Beyonce is not country and to give Morgan Wallen a pass. By your own admission, his previous albums had more traditional country sounds. Beyonce does not have any songs that sound like traditional country. I do not understand why Morgan Wallen chooses to have the trap beats in the songs where he has them tough. For his past three albums, he posted sessions videos on Youtube of his vocals and actual instruments being played without any beat, and in my opinion those versions sounded better than the versions that had the beats in them. His past few albums have had a lot of songs on them, and you have to remember that the songs that are more likely to become big hits and get the most radio play are the ones that do not have as much of a traditional country sound, unfortunately.
August 23, 2025 @ 10:17 am
The only ones I’ve heard bringing up “black” artists being attacked are Crockett and Saving Country Music. I don’t see anything where Gavin Adcock said anything about anybody being black. He just called out bullshit music.
August 24, 2025 @ 9:33 am
So a guy making bullshit music calling out others is ok
August 25, 2025 @ 5:45 am
only allowed if you’re black apparently
August 23, 2025 @ 12:21 pm
Charley kinda lost me at, “I listen to @bigxthaplug.”
August 24, 2025 @ 7:45 am
Wait a minute,Charley.Country boys singing over a trap beat for 25 years ? What am I (and everyone else) missing?
August 25, 2025 @ 6:37 pm
Agree with Gavin totally. Charley is a fraud. He just posted on Instagram exposing Charley for faking his Texas accent. Unfortunately if you play games you will be exposed and he is getting exposed. Unfortunately quantity doesn’t equal quality and it also doesn’t equal commercial success. There are country artists who have worked their tails off for years grinding, appearing on music shows, and gaining audiences. Look at Morgan’s crowds in 2018, he wasn’t a huge deal. He put in the work and became the biggest thing our genre has seen in our lifetime. People resonate with his songs, his sound and his vibe. Charley hasn’t resonated, and never will. He will never be Morgan. Not now, not ever. Don’t fake accents, don’t pull the wool over our eyes and don’t try to malign us. And you will be fine. Unfortunately he has done that stuff. Not a fan to put it politely.
I’m interested in country music being top dog. I’d rather not have that poster boy or girl be a fraud faking an accent. So no I don’t want Charley representing me or us. Why would I want a fraud to be something I listen to?
August 25, 2025 @ 7:55 pm
Top dog, you say? Hmmmm. Where have i heard that before?
August 29, 2025 @ 8:33 pm
Shots fired. Paul Cauthen calling out Charley Crockett as a “fraud” now too.
August 29, 2025 @ 8:59 pm
Yeah, will have something on this soon.