The Chicks Drop “Dixie” & Drop Out of Country on “March March”

Here ye, here ye, here ye, henceforth the country music trio formerly known as the “Dixie Chicks” will solely be known as “The Chicks.” In this arresting moment we’re living through where we feel the need to eradicate anything and everything that can be tied directly, tangentially, or indiscriminately to the American South, “Dixie” has become the latest casualty, along with, somehow, statues to Theodore Roosevelt, Ulysses S. Grant who commanded the army against the rebellious Confederate South, and Abraham Lincoln who emancipated the slaves. Can’t be too safe, I guess. Wait until the mob hears what Germany did, and some 80 years more recently, or Mao with his cultural revolution. And meanwhile many of the actual pillars of racism remain erect throughout society because we’re mostly focusing on the symbolic ones.
To tell you the truth, the term “Chicks” is arguably just as problematic, if not more than “Dixie.” If you happened to refer to the American South as “Dixie” in passing as sort of a form of shorthand, not many if anyone would look at you sideways and consider the term or you as racist. If you refer to a woman as a “Chick,” it would be a taken almost universally as an act of reductionism, and if you’re male, misogyny. You’re discouraged from referring to women as “female” or a “girl,” or by their first name as well.
Similar to the recent move by Lady Antebellum to change their name to Lady A, the concern with The Chicks is not the name change specifically, but the slippery slope it presents toward what language can and will be deemed as problematic. Lady A changing their name made it almost essential for the Dixie Chicks to change their name as well. So now that we’ve moved the goalposts once again, what further names will be deemed problematic? I’m sure they’ll let us know very soon.
Some were pointing out a double standard when Confederate Railroad was being criticized for its name while Lady Antebellum and the Dixie Chicks weren’t. So turning around now and complaining these groups changed their names does not make a whole lot of sense. Of course, the main problem some have is the perception that The Chicks gave into public pressure. But similar to what happened to Lady Antebellum, this is somewhat misguided. You can’t proclaim you’re all for freedom of speech, and then complain when someone voluntarily chooses to change their own name because they pondered the situation, and deemed it problematic. It’s their name. They can do whatever the hell they want with it. That’s freedom. If there was a mob out to Dixie Chick (a.k.a. cancel) the Dixie Chicks for their name, that is where it would be problematic—mob rule compelling someone to act against their will or succumb to cancellation, like we saw with Confederate Railroad. Similar to Lady Antebllum, that’s just not the case here.
This name change was in the works for a while. The only real surprise is that it took so long. It just happens to be coming now because, oh, The Chicks have a new song to promote, and on the same day they announce their name change. Total coincidence of course. And if your beef is with the Dixie Chicks in general is still what they said about President George W. Bush, good gosh, let it go already. It was almost 20 years ago, and was an opinion that the current President of the United States regularly shares on both foreign and domestic soil. It’s also an opinion that the prevailing sentiment and history now agrees with.
But the next question is if any of this is even relevant to country music anymore. Coinciding with the name change is the latest song from The Chicks’ upcoming album Gaslighter called “March March.” A pathetic, droning, electronically-programmed monstrosity mostly constructed at the hands of producer Jack Antonoff with the narcissistic notions of Natalie Maines as the centerpiece, it’s in no way good, and certainly not country.
After the mild, but acceptable title track from Gaslighter was released, and then the deflating, but forgivable “Julianna Calm Down,” we get even more electronic production, more cussing, while Emily and Martie Erwin are once again relegated to bit players, adding a little fiddle and banjo, which is about the only redeeming quality of the song, but way too fleeting as Antonoff becomes enamored with his own MIDI programming and clap tracks. “March March” is a straight up EDM song with hip-hop callbacks effervesced with scant fiddle and banjo for texture.
Meanwhile Natalie Maines has morphed into some alternate universe version of a Kid Rock character. But instead of waving the Confederate Flag around and packing her trashy Nashville bar with patrons with the express purpose of pissing people off and flaunting authority, Natalie Maines taunts her detractors with self-important lyrics and purposely polarizing proclamations. She wants to make people angry. She gets off on it. And even if you may think that anger is understandable with what happened to The Chicks now some 20 years ago, at this point she’s just being extremely petty, and childish.
“March March” takes pride in not learning, not growing, not listening or understanding the perspectives of others, and even more alarmingly, presenting it as a virtue, while Maines also proclaims herself an “army of one.” If you consider how little we’ve heard from Emily and Martie Erwin on Gaslighter so far, that doesn’t sound too far off.
And of course any and all criticism of The Chicks will be seen singularly as sour grapes from country fans unwilling to bury hatchets when in truth it’s vice versa. The Chicks will be applauded for sowing anger. That’s how you know they’re being effective. And though hurt feelings from the past remain an issue with some country fans, the simple truth is what The Chicks have been releasing from this record so far is so outside the norm of country, it’s beginning to feel more like a Taylor Swift situation where you have to wonder why we’re even continuing to pay attention to them? Jack Antonoff is one of the guys who lured Taylor Swift away from country music, and now it appears he’s doing the same with The Chicks. Wonder why there’s so few women in country? This is partly to blame.
What made The Chicks so cool is they were country, they were good musicians, and they were strong women taking center stage. Now they’re just a studio project with Jack Antonoff looking to make his stamp. Despite the loud voices of some misguided rednecks who will never make amends, country music wants to make right with The Chicks and move on from the embarrassment that was their cancellation before we even knew what cancel culture was. They were the centerpiece of the 50th CMA Awards, and radio was initially receptive to their new lead single.
But as time has gone on, it’s Natalie Maines who appears to be the the one not ready to make nice, more interested in pissing people off and being proud of it, than allowing what was once the most important project in country music to return to their rightful place, and put a needed injection of woman power back into the genre.
June 25, 2020 @ 6:52 pm
lol, I knew you’d be triggered.
June 25, 2020 @ 6:55 pm
Thanks for lending constructively to the conversation.
June 25, 2020 @ 7:28 pm
I just don’t think any of this is constructive. You want them to play by your rules. But they would rather have their pride than whatever benefit that would bring.
It’s probably a bad business decision for them but I don’t blame them. People have to have their pride.
June 25, 2020 @ 8:03 pm
I think it’s more PR than pride.
People are gullible.
I mean, look at you.
June 26, 2020 @ 1:06 pm
“it would perhaps be better if you resorted to quips and sound bites..”
Or maybe, thegentile, it would perhaps be better if you followed Taste of Country or Whiskey Riff or whatever if “Top 10 Largest Shits Taken By Amanda Shires” and other similar bites is more your thing.
June 25, 2020 @ 8:16 pm
jonnyba,
You know that I support The Chicks changing their name, right? Just like I supported Lady Antebellum. What are we talking about here?
June 25, 2020 @ 8:50 pm
you spent like ten words of the entire article saying they can do whatever they want with their name (which is more apathetic than supportive). if you really supported the name change you wouldn’t bury that lede under hundreds of words of your usual political musings (you really do talk about politics a lot for someone who claims to be apolitical).
June 25, 2020 @ 9:59 pm
I spent more on it than ten words, and I’m sorry if you continue to be insulted by my desire to contectualize and expand discussions as opposed to delivering quips and sound bites.
June 25, 2020 @ 10:12 pm
It is kinda funny that someone who tried to penalty flag Bryan James for “pandering” with his album artwork is so willing to turn a blind eye to a far more obvious case of it.
June 26, 2020 @ 12:04 am
it would perhaps be better if you resorted to quips and sound bites because you often end up having to clarify the points you are trying to make in the comments. you could have had an article about the name change and a separate one where you complain about them for a thousand words.
June 26, 2020 @ 9:34 am
Trigglita,
If we take this to it’s logical conclusion, you’ll be changing the name of your website soon.
June 26, 2020 @ 8:03 am
I think in this case Trigger should just have written something like this:
As expected Dixie Chicks change name
Anyone surprised? I didn’t think so.
Now let’s get back to acts who actually deserve our attention.
June 26, 2020 @ 10:07 am
“Now let’s get back to acts who actually deserve our attention.”
Man, I wish readers would actually take that attitude. I’m posting music features all the time, constantly see comments like this, but those articles on deserving artists don’t ever receive the kind of attention stories like this do. And yet somehow I’m to blame.
Seems like the Dixie Chicks changing their name is an important story to country music. Don’t see the harm in covering it in detail.
June 26, 2020 @ 3:41 am
LOL, Just as you knew you would be triggered by finding this article here. I bet you were checking this website constantly after you heard the news. I did admittedly, I always look forward to the comments. Sad really, this website has allowed me to come across some great new country singers, yet I post more on the fun destructive stuff 🙂
Back to “las chicas” (2024 i reckon, new market to aim for and sounds less bad than the chicks) Money talks, every capitalist should know this, even the musicians/fans who pretend not to capitalist’s. They are doing what any commercialised entity would do and trying to stay relevant with their market, which is fine as everyone is entitled to do as they please. I have never understood the “betrayal” sell out” stuff as you chose to like or don’t like, follow or don’t follow.
Trigger however, is giving his perspective, I suspect it’s something to do with his errrr website i guess…Better than someone being paid to provide BS commentary :)…
Just as you chose to provide an opinion/feedback when you posted your effort, a good effort that it was.
Not that you should care if i say the following, but if a bunch of middle aged women want to be known as “the chicks” then let them be, plenty of famous singers/actresses love being refereed to as skinny, young, going out with “toy boys” blah blah, but i respect their deeply developed feminism.
June 26, 2020 @ 12:08 pm
I unabashedly adore the Chicks.
This isn’t a good Chicks song – shit belongs on a Maines solo record.
June 25, 2020 @ 6:58 pm
I stopped caring about this band a long time ago. Couldn’t care less about this move unless it forces another band to do a similar thing. For example, what if Alabama is forced to renounce “Dixieland Delight”, man that would be awful.
June 25, 2020 @ 10:22 pm
That’s next. Then their Southern Star album. Then Lee Greenwood’s Dixie Road. Then Tim McGraw’s Southern Voice. Then Jason Sellers’ Matthew, Mark, Luke & Earnhardt. Then Randy Travis’ Three Wooden Crosses. And George Strait’s God and Country Music. And just about anything by The Charlie Daniels Band. And they won’t stop until every country radio station is off the air.
This phony, woke nonsense has nothing to do with racism, and everything to do with a Marxist coup of our country. This has to stop soon…we’ve all had enough. Country Musis Industry, you all need to sign an open letter and publish it in The New York Times and Washington Post. Give the left the middle finger, and tell them our country and its heritage are worth fighting for. Do NOT change anything else. It’s time to stand up and start taking our country back from these anarchists.
June 25, 2020 @ 10:51 pm
Where the almighty frak did you think that this had anything do do with ‘Marxism’? it does not, You need to stop reading and listening to/watching all of the neocon caca media and try to think for yourself. Most social change is progressive, not Marxist.
June 26, 2020 @ 4:00 am
HA. Neocons. So much in common with Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama. Foreign policy was virtually linear.
I love how words can be used to hide meanings. Soviets were amazing at it. Social Justice, workers rights, progress! what? you are eating your dog? PROGRESS err if its errr progressive progress, then why are voters increasingly becoming polarised, progress for some but not for all? might as well start your own country…oops.
June 29, 2020 @ 5:39 am
Everything going on right now has everything to do with Marxism. Educate yourself.
June 26, 2020 @ 8:51 am
Considering the direction Alabama has gone in, I think it would be better if Dixieland Delight could renounce the band instead.
June 25, 2020 @ 7:00 pm
The Woke and The Cancel culture is wildly insane right now, luckily Natalie embraces it. She trashed their careers, cost them millions and now they’re a footnote. Not many care anymore.
June 25, 2020 @ 10:55 pm
Correction, the retrogressive right wingers who are fans of (and who dominate) country music did that back in the mid-2000’s. They might just get back into country eventually, but for now they want to try something else
June 26, 2020 @ 5:21 am
She has the right to say whatever she wants to, she just forgot that the majority of their fan base voted for the President. Not any different if any Pop Star bashed Obama during his 8 years, hell, the left would’ve burn their house down not crushed their CD’s.
June 30, 2020 @ 11:47 pm
The ‘majority’ of their fan base are fraking moronic idiots who will always vote against their own best interests because-like this alien race,-they believe that anybody can be rich as Midas if they just work hard, so they vote for incompetent assholes like Trump who can’t even run a casino-a license to print money if ever there was one-right.
I wonder what they (and you) will do when the United States collapses due to the constand voting into power of people like Trump? Guess they’ll be blaming it on people of color even more, or some other kind of bullshit,
June 26, 2020 @ 3:12 pm
you are clearly government educated
June 26, 2020 @ 12:25 am
Apparently, The Chicks believe the easiest way to gain relevance again is to choose a name that will offend both women AND poultry. We should ban them from the radio for decades. Oh, wait…
June 26, 2020 @ 4:53 am
Which one is Natalie? Is she the little fat one?
June 26, 2020 @ 5:13 am
Just to add to little to what Lefty said…
From this article:
And if your beef is with the Dixie Chicks in general is still what they said about President George W. Bush, good gosh, let it go already. It was almost 20 years ago, and was an opinion that the current President of the United States regularly shares on both foreign and domestic soil. It’s also an opinion that the prevailing sentiment and history now agrees with.
When Natalie Maines said way back when (on foreign soil!!!!) may have been impolitic for a woman in country music, but she wasn’t wrong. I think the people who gleefully participated their deconstruction owe them an apology, but of course, that will never happen. My country right or wrong or some shit.
June 26, 2020 @ 6:16 pm
I’ve never seen a coherent argument for why criticizing Bush was considered particularly egregious because it was done “on foreign soil”. For what possible reason could it matter that they made their comments to British people? The whole “well maybe if they didn’t say it IN ANOTHER COUNTRY it wouldn’t have been so bad” argument seems like such a non sequitur. Do people think that England was allied with Iraq at the time or something?
June 27, 2020 @ 11:16 am
I agree. And they were our most meaningful ally. I think there still would have been outrage if it had happened somewhere outside of “the real America” (e.g., San Francisco) . There just would have been some other cry other than “foreign soil.” Also, it’s often forgotten that Maines made her seemingly off the cuff statement ten days before the start of the Iraq War, although it seemed like a foregone conclusion at that point.
June 28, 2020 @ 9:05 am
I absolutely agree, but why stop there? We should DEMAND an apology and restitution from all the dummies who “cancelled” the Dixie Chicks 20 years ago, on behalf of the Dixie Chicks. Their 20 year old wrongthink is inexcusable.
I wish we could also force all those mouth breathers from flyover to buy ALL the Dixie Chicks albums again, and the Maines side projects. They should all be forced to buy “Chicks” concert tickets at twice the price, spend the entire concert on their knees, wearing special t-shirts that show everyone else who they are and what their crimes are.
We must root out wrongthink wherever it is, more importantly, whenever it is. Followed by public shaming and financial restitution, it’s the only way to progress and heal our nation…
June 28, 2020 @ 4:16 pm
The irony of this 1984-inspired piece of sarcasm is that the 1984 metaphor works to some extent to describe what actually happened to The Dixie Chicks. They were found guilty of a thoughtcrime by a right wing “patriotic” mob amped up for the imminent war with Iraq, with the Conservative Entertainment Complex (Fox, talk radio, etc) playing the role of The Ministry of Truth. And the sentence was the destruction of their mainstream country career. I didn’t know at the time what a blow that was to the cause of good country music, as I really didn’t pay much attention to mainstream country radio. I was (am), among other things, a big bluegrass fan and I had heard of their bluegrass beginnings before the arrival of Maines, but I just assumed that was in the past once they “went commercial.” The few songs I heard from what I now know were the Wide Open Spaces and Fly weren’t really for me. Then, a little while after reading Trigger’s “Destroying the Dixie Chicks – Ten Years After” in 2013, I rescued those two albums and the Home album from my wife’s neglected collection, listened to them, and understood the magnitude of the loss to country music. For starters, real bluegrass music actually included on a mainstream country album. Ace performances of songs written by people like Bruce Robison and Patty Griffin. I could have been listening to Patty Grifffin’s song Truth #2 10 years before her Silver Bell album was finally released. Even the poppier songs were so much better than what was featured on the radio in 2013.
As for the upcoming album, based on the three songs I’ve heard, that’s going to be a hard pass from me.
June 25, 2020 @ 7:02 pm
I’m Just glad they cured racism in America by dropping the Dixie from their name.
June 26, 2020 @ 1:21 am
I think that changed the mind of all those corrupted cops out there. Just think if they did this a month earlier. George Floyd may still be alive.
/s for those who can’t tell.
June 26, 2020 @ 8:33 am
Dixie cups are next
June 25, 2020 @ 7:02 pm
Too little too late, changing your band name to be woke appropriate is so 2 weeks ago. Good job Dixie Chicks, you played yourself. Seriously though, are people really putting them on the back for this move, I’m not on Twitter so I really don’t know
June 25, 2020 @ 7:07 pm
First Eskimo Pies, and now this! What a dumb name too. Why not just come up with a brand new name?
June 26, 2020 @ 7:25 am
How ’bout the Maines’ Event?
June 27, 2020 @ 7:05 am
I think Hens would be more appropriate at their age.
June 27, 2020 @ 10:32 am
The Hens. I like it. Sounds like a punk rock band name.
June 30, 2020 @ 12:29 pm
How about The Dix?
June 25, 2020 @ 7:09 pm
Well written, pretty much agree with everything said here. It’s all ridiculous. The name change, the shameless timing of the name change announcement and song release, and the joke of a song they released. It’s a shame, as like you mentioned I’m sure the vast majority of people had gotten over what happened all those years ago.
June 25, 2020 @ 7:10 pm
On the final Pantera album there’s a line that sums this up imo – “the smell in the air is chickenshit”
June 25, 2020 @ 7:10 pm
Kyle, I’ve followed them since 1999 and even if I disagree with your opinion I just want to thank you for taking some time to write about them and their music.
June 25, 2020 @ 7:11 pm
Once an “endless present” is established by the cancel culture, what will they do with all that extra time?
June 25, 2020 @ 7:52 pm
They will become passe and a newer, even more radical group will demonize them as “ist” (flavor of the day,) push them out of power, and the cycle will continue…
There are millions of examples, but, Ronald Reagan, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, and Gore Vidal were progressive Leftists under FDR. They failed to move Left fast enough, so by the 1970’s, they were out of line and became the far right enemy. Ronald Reagan was a committed liberal. He did nothing even remotely conservative. But, by the 1970’s he was regarded as a troglodyte. The progressive “spirit” can never be sated, it will always devour its offspring. I wish that Western people were still educated enough to understand this. Alas, a pillar of the Revolution was the alienation of our people from our history. Government schools have accomplished a great deal. So, we don’t know enough to understand what is happening. Why do you think, in the past century, Western schools (public and private) stopped teaching Latin and Greek, after 1000+ years of doing so?
June 25, 2020 @ 7:12 pm
Oh look….. the people who give a rat’s patoot are no where to be found!
June 25, 2020 @ 7:32 pm
It’s funny how both “Lady A” and “The Chicks” were suddenly enlightened, after decades on this earth, in the course of a month about their supposedly “racist” and “hurtful” band names. If they had any real sense of it being racist, they would have already changed it. Instead, they’re just another example affluent, culturally well-situated whites who fear nothing more than being labeled a bigot. Pathetic and contemptible.
June 25, 2020 @ 9:27 pm
Exactly. And, that’s one of the many problems of angry mob cancel culture….if people aren’t free to express themselves, how do you know what their real intentions are? In this case, it’s hard not assume they aren’t either bending the knee or looking for attention, based on the timing.
Beyond the name, all 3 of the songs I’ve heard are beyond the pale, musically. I mean, who would listen to this? Trigger. I know it’s hard to gauge with COVID, but how would you say they are doing? Beyond the predictable woke journalists…have they found any measure of comeback success with these midi jams?
June 25, 2020 @ 10:03 pm
It’s hard to say how successful this stuff is. Many will support them blindly regardless of what they release simply due to what happened to them three Presidents ago. “Gaslighter” actually did okay on radio early on, but I think once “Julianna Calm Down” came out, I think it soured the well. These last two songs have been unlistenable, and this is coming from someone who will defined the quality of those first few Dixie Chicks records to my death. What I’ve heard so far is a Jack Antonoff/Natalie Maines collaboration co-opting The Chicks name for attention.
June 25, 2020 @ 10:33 pm
Yeah I’m sure there are some loyal fans out there, but I truly wonder what the real market is for this. Besides the ego, the pandering, the anger, the name, etc: Musically…this fence straddling mediocrity appeals to who, exactly?
June 26, 2020 @ 5:39 am
What I’ve heard so far is a Jack Antonoff/Natalie Maines collaboration co-opting The Chicks name for attention.
Yup. I was thinking something similar, that it was basically a Natalie Maines solo project. And yeah, of course she’s the singer and all, but the beauty of the Dixie Chicks was that all three of them brought something to the table, and here lately it seems the other two have been completely marginalized.
June 25, 2020 @ 7:33 pm
Stupid is as stupid does, and we’ve known Natalie Maines hates America for almost twenty years.
Is relocating and recontextualizing statues that promote racism and colonialism good?
Yes. Especially since most of those statues weren’t actually erected until almost a hundred years after the American civil war ended
Is the overreach of political correctness and rabidness too much?
Yes.
I’m a good old fashioned rationalist. It means I practice common sense thinking
And I vote for both parties as I see fit
But it also means I don’t listen to anything pertaining to Natalie Maines
Because she’s crazy
June 25, 2020 @ 7:33 pm
This stuff is so ridiculous. The problem with the left is they take things so far that people finally start to see through it. Also, what this is really about is the exploitation of a movement. White women are using this “movement” as a way to promote themselves. All who can, and are willing to will take advantage of this moment for financial/personal gain. Bubba Wallace can’t win a race, so he gets a BLM car and makes a story about about a rope. The Dixie Chicks are finding a way to stay relevant. If people were serious about this “movement” they would call this out.
June 25, 2020 @ 10:05 pm
Did you see the rope? There was a photo online today It was a noose. NASCAR and Bubba’s crew were rightfully freaked out about it.
June 26, 2020 @ 7:17 am
LOL
June 26, 2020 @ 7:49 am
Jesus christ, are you for fucking real? They even had the FBI investigating this hoax. They concluded: Bubba is a bullshit artist.
June 26, 2020 @ 8:43 am
Not exactly, mate.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/racing/nascar/story/_/id/29364817/nascar-releases-image-noose-found-bubba-wallace-garage-says-concern-was-real%3fplatform=amp
June 26, 2020 @ 8:56 am
“In hindsight I should have used the word alleged in our statement”.
Then why didn’t you, you moron? Instead of creating more division.
June 26, 2020 @ 9:20 am
You know what the word hindsight means, right? And really, with the discovery happening right on the heels of NASCAR banning the display of the Confederate Flag, I think it’s an understandable mistake. But mainly, I posted the link to show that your claim that “Bubba is a bullshit artist” is false.
June 26, 2020 @ 4:22 pm
He ran with that shit, even went on CNN with that dopey lemon, telling him it was indeed a noose.
But you believe what you believe, I am done with him. In the greater scheme of things he and Dixie Chicks and lady antebellum are totally irrelevant. Have a blessed day.
June 27, 2020 @ 9:56 am
Jesus Christ. It WAS a noose. It’s just that it wasn’t hung there recently. The FBI concluded it had been hanging in that garage since October 2019.
Also, the quote that you reference above about hindsight wasn’t from Bubba Wallace. It was from NASCAR president Steve Phelps. Did you not pick up on that? And once again, given the recent NASCAR pronouncement on the banning of displaying the Stars and Bars, what is the only black NASCAR driver supposed to think when a noose is found in his garage at a raceway not just in The South, but The DEEP South? Unless you’re a different Steven from the one who said that he was from Europe previously, maybe you just don’t get the significance of that?
Thanks so much for wishing me a blessed day. Means a lot.
June 28, 2020 @ 2:20 am
Jack, trying to come over as intelligent makes you look really stupid.
June 28, 2020 @ 9:32 pm
They found the noose the day after someone was so pissed off about NASCAR banning the traitor flag they hired a plane to fly it over Talladega. Of course they thought the worst. Also NASCAR checked all their garages in all the raceways and Bubba’s was the only one out of like 1,500 with a garage pull tied like a noose.
June 25, 2020 @ 7:34 pm
“March, March to your own drum”……The Dixie Chicks are late to the party and just picking up the rear.
June 25, 2020 @ 7:44 pm
“Chicks” is offensive and sexist. I recommend “The Chickx,” just to be safe.
June 28, 2020 @ 9:37 am
You know “Chickx” reminds me of Nikki Sixx and while they’re not at all country, I just wondered if the woke crowd will come after Motley Crue and similar bands next. I’m sure a lot of their music could be considered demonizing of women.
June 25, 2020 @ 7:46 pm
I am happy with this.
The word Dixie is too good for Natalie and her posse.
She doesn’t deserve it. Never did.
June 25, 2020 @ 7:52 pm
I could care less about the name change. Sure, I think it’s unnecessary and excessive, and I think they’re just trying to pander to the left, but it’s fine. They can do whatever they want. The real issue is that the new music sucks and it keeps going further and further away from what made them great back in the day. But since the lyrics are “woke” everybody in the media is gonna love it. Ughhhhhh
June 25, 2020 @ 7:55 pm
Hopefully “Old Dominion” will be next for a name change!!!? Perhaps to “Old D”
June 26, 2020 @ 1:28 am
I bet “Sugarland” is the next to go. They named themselves after Sugar Land, Texas. There was a big sugar plantation there and had a history of slavery.
June 26, 2020 @ 9:47 am
Their music is an abomination to the real Old Dominion, the Commonwealth of Virginia.
June 25, 2020 @ 7:56 pm
I don’t mind the name change, I just think that Dixie Chicks had more character to it. In terms of the music, I have not really been thrilled by the songs they put out (though I will still buy the album), but I don’t blame them for getting away from country. It was a better sound for them, but if the industry is going to turn their backs on them, why would they still wanna be part of that group?
June 25, 2020 @ 7:58 pm
Well…
…it’s not quite as bad as “Julianna Calm Down” or “Gaslighter.” And that’s really the best I can say. If these songs represent the new direction of the band, it’s really just as well that they change their name. They’re not who they were, and that’s a real shame.
Ahh, well. At least we’ll always have Wide Open Spaces, Fly, and Home.
June 26, 2020 @ 5:30 am
I agree. I find it to be the most listenable of the three songs. Still, not really one I’m going to choose to listen to for pleasure. And yeah, might as well go to a blander band name.
June 25, 2020 @ 8:11 pm
No doubt they will win a Grammy.
June 25, 2020 @ 8:13 pm
“What made The Chicks so cool is they were country, they were good musicians, and they were strong women taking center stage. Now they’re just a studio project with Jack Antonoff looking to make his stamp.“
Nailed it. A+ article overall.
June 25, 2020 @ 8:18 pm
“In this arresting moment we’re living through where we feel the need to eradicate anything and everything that can be tied directly, tangentially, or indiscriminately to the American South”
I think you mean the “Confederate South” because no one is trying eradicate anything from the American south except remnants of the traitorous confederate south Having grown up in the south and being an American patriot I was always disgusted by the confederacy because there’s nothing more unamerican than the confederacy. Even ignoring the horrors of slavery they still fought a war against the United States and killed more Americans than all other foreign entities throughout our warring history. There’s should be no problem eradicating anything from that embarrassing part of history.
June 25, 2020 @ 11:01 pm
That’s the exact thing, Toddxolsen. but most of the people commenting here don’t or won’t get it
June 26, 2020 @ 2:26 am
Here’s an idea: work on racism in the PRESENT.
Erasing the past is the easy/lazy thing to do because we already know what happened.
Shaping the future is difficult because it requires actual work.
June 26, 2020 @ 7:43 am
Good point.
After the death of George Floyd, I had to read think piece after think piece about how racist country music is because of stuff A.P. Carter and the 1940’s Opry did and how it was 100% stolen from black artists, yet the issue with The Highwomen excluding Mickey Guyton goes virtually uncovered, and nobody points out how Florida Georgia Line got caught red handed stealing the chorus to a Kane Brown song just a couple of months ago. Not sure how tearing down a statue of General Grant in San Francisco solves any problems.
June 26, 2020 @ 8:13 am
For all the consternation about “woke,” “cancel,” “political correctness,” “marxism,” or the latest conservative worry constantly discussed on this site, it is ironic that all the people I know standing up for Black lives, to end police brutality for all, and to create a society of love and respect for all people, don’t actually care about or ever discuss these things. They support free speech, freedom of worship, even freedom to own a gun, and couldn’t give a shit about the Chicks or Lady A (they don’t even know who they are).
June 26, 2020 @ 8:33 am
I don’t think anyone is trying to erase history. They’re trying to be more sensitive about the parts of history that still hurt people today, parts that people also love to flaunt in a very racist way. . No one is saying don’t talk about the civil war in history class. Because that’s how you learn about history. They’re talking about removing things that glorify a dark part of our history that still remains today.
But yeah let’s also get rid of racism today.
June 26, 2020 @ 9:39 am
“They’re trying to be more sensitive about the parts of history that still hurt people today, parts that people also love to flaunt in a very racist way.”
“They’re talking about removing things that glorify a dark part of our history that still remains today.”
A statue of Abraham Lincoln in Washington DC, funded by freed slaves and dedicated by Frederick Douglass, and now a target of removal by people on the left, “glorifies a dark part of our history that still remains today?”
A statue of Ulysses S. Grant, the man that led the Union Army over the Confederates and ended the Civil War, leading to the ending of slavery, was yanked down by people on the left in San Francisco because it “glorifies a dark part of our history that still remains today?”
The “Gator Bait” chant at the University of Florida, created by Lawrence Wright, a black alumnus that played safety for the football team, who by the way does NOT want it banned, has now been banned at the request of students on the left because it “glorifies a dark part of our history that still remains today?”
June 26, 2020 @ 10:39 am
This just in: Oregon and Oregon State will no longer refer to their rivalry games to “The Civil War” because of its connection to slavery.
But no one’s trying to erase history, eh Olsen?
June 30, 2020 @ 11:32 pm
Stop being such a whiner, and try to accept that racism still exists, and also that it’s up to all of us to do something about it
June 26, 2020 @ 3:28 am
Southerners who fought for the Confederacy were…not American? The CS…A?
June 26, 2020 @ 3:39 am
This is really what you jumped into the conversation with? The Confederate States succeeded from the “Union” also know as the United States it America. “America” in USA and CSA is referring to North America. Of which both Mexico and Canada are a part of. Neither would have citizens belonging to the United States or America.
I suggest you read the articles of succession if you want to have a conversation about conferdate history. But to answer your question no, soldiers who fought for the confederacy were not Americans in the same way you or I are.
June 26, 2020 @ 4:26 am
So are you saying the residents of CHAZ/CHOP are not Americans?
June 26, 2020 @ 4:47 am
CHAZ/CHOP is a fictional place where local government has been decentralized. They have not succeeded from the United States of America.
June 26, 2020 @ 7:33 am
One of the first signs to appear in CHAZ was “you are now leaving the USA”. If that is not a secession I don’t know what is.
https://mobile.twitter.com/historyofarmani/status/1270450175350378496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1270450175350378496&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fheavy.com%2Fnews%2F2020%2F06%2Fcapitol-hill-autonomous-zone-chaz%2F
You haven’t a clue what you’re talking about. But please keep going.
June 26, 2020 @ 10:40 am
Kind of amazing how secession is acceptable now. Whatever people in Texas ever floated the idea, the Left ran around in circles yelling how wrong it was and the country needs to stay together.
But it is OK for CHAZ/CHOP/AAA/TTFN (whatever it is called) to break away.
June 26, 2020 @ 4:42 am
Keep going. Define who is a true American and who is not.
June 26, 2020 @ 4:50 am
I have not read into this nor looking for a word fight over it, but I am curious, if the North did not formally recognise their independence, which obviously they did not, the North must have viewed them as Americans, maybe traitors but certainly American. So did they die as Americans?
if they were not Americans and Americans did not kill Americans, was the North actually just fighting for land? Lastly why did the ones that lived fighting for the South remained Americans?
I fully admit I may be ignorant on this, Not much of a Cvil war if both sides recognised each other as a different country.
June 26, 2020 @ 4:55 am
Google “reconstruction”, read a book, take a class, watch a YouTube video or listen to a podcast.
June 26, 2020 @ 5:10 am
I was hoping you would take the time and effort to explain a little deeper. In my mind as no one legitimately recognised their interdependence, then they were Americans, like you 🙂
June 26, 2020 @ 5:12 am
Independence..whoops
June 26, 2020 @ 5:19 am
Here you go:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/06/what-this-cruel-war-was-over/396482/
June 26, 2020 @ 5:42 am
Then why did they have to go through processes to be readmitted into the union without not be recognized as not being part of the union? They were recognized as not being a part of the United States but not as a legitimate country. There are regimes all over the world today that the United States does not recognize as legitimate it does not mean they are part of the USA.
June 26, 2020 @ 6:34 am
That’s true, so the North/US invaded an illegitimate country. Thank heavens today when the US invades an illegitimate country , it does not annex them anymore.
Only messin, have a good day and enjoy summer.
June 26, 2020 @ 7:21 am
LOL that’s the thing: when you ask them to explain their position, their response is ALWAYS “Google it, dumbass!”
June 26, 2020 @ 5:13 am
Or articles of secession.
Since the rebellion failed, it certainly was not succession.
June 26, 2020 @ 5:48 am
Autocorrect.
June 25, 2020 @ 8:19 pm
I could deal with name change, the music isn’t good. The Chicks were talented & represented country well & this…pass.
June 25, 2020 @ 8:37 pm
They can call themselves whatever the fuck they want…. They’re still the Dixie Chicks, alternatively they could have gone with “Chicks with Dix”
June 25, 2020 @ 8:47 pm
How long before Polyester-Eyed Joe?
June 25, 2020 @ 10:06 pm
IDK – polyester is a Big Oil product. But OTOH, in addition to its association with The South, cotton can be a GMO, either Roundup Ready or Bt. It may be too much of a greyscale thing for an SJW to decide upon. Oh wait, damn it – grey has a Southern association, too…
June 25, 2020 @ 9:03 pm
I wish someone had the balks to say heritage not hate and if you don’t like it you can fuck off. That’s what we need in country music.
June 26, 2020 @ 4:09 am
The confederacy existed for five years. That’s not someone’s heritage, that’s an embarrassing family mistake. The confederacy existed for one fifth of the time Weezer has existed. I liked weezer in middle and high school. Weezer is my heritage!
See how dumb that sounds?
June 26, 2020 @ 5:24 am
I beat someone up at school, that is my heritage.
Sounds just as dumb if you break it down to these levels 🙂
June 26, 2020 @ 5:39 am
The American Republic lasted for nearly 90 years, not including the colonial period. The South, peacefully withdrawing from the Union was a continuation of the Republic and a rejection of the Empire. It wasn’t a rebellion and it certainly wasn’t a “civil war.” Cool it with all the woke, bullshit about “this or that lasted longer than the Confederacy.”
June 26, 2020 @ 5:53 am
Woke bullshit? I guess I was woke in fifth grade. Because growing up in the capital of the confederacy it was shortly after learning about Benedict Arnold that I learned about the confederacy(in a state where we learned that the war was about states rights) and I could see through all the bullshit you’re trying to spout. It was a bunch of babies who couldn’t get their way so they threw their toys out of their cribs and took their ball and went home.
June 26, 2020 @ 5:56 am
That is a very sophisticated view of events. You should write a book. Did you attend public schools?
June 26, 2020 @ 6:46 am
If you’re the type of person who refers to things as “woke bullshit” then things get explained to you on that level.
June 26, 2020 @ 7:16 am
I’ve seen dozens of comedians, especially the un-funny, obscene female ones, saying revolting things like “my last period lasted longer than the Confederacy.” That qualifies it as woke bullshit .
June 26, 2020 @ 8:54 am
Todd, it looks like we found another dark corner of the internet where the Confederacy are the true heroes of the American Story. In RD’s reading of events, it was the Confederacy, those proud defenders of slavery, who were the real advancers of the American ideal as they “peacefully” broke from the Union in a heroic attempt to buck “empire”. This narrative is so confusedly revisionist RD has talked himself into being at the ready to wear that grey uniform with the “stars and bars” just as soon as ‘the cause’ is rightly understood once more as the true American spirit that was unjustly squashed with aggressive violence from betrayers to the north. RD sees through the PC bullshit and his musket is primed for the Confederacy.
This insanity is just a way to deal with the cognitive dissonance that inevitably arises when you try to hold both “I’m an American patriot” and “I love the confederacy”. They don’t go together so you have to find some way to square them. We can see how RD is coping and many others are coping on full display.
June 26, 2020 @ 9:32 am
Ryan. While I agree with you 100% abs fully admit that I could not have said it better myself.
It just sounds like woke bullshit.
June 26, 2020 @ 5:58 pm
Interestingly, the Confederates are still a bunch of babies to this day. Only now, instead of throwing toys, they’re throwing statues and mautauv cocktails.
June 26, 2020 @ 8:15 am
No apologies coming from me, sorry. Also, I’m not caring that they torpedoed their career, and I sure don’t care if they succeed or (most likely) fail. Just another sad little footnote in country music history.
And last I checked, W came out fine. Can’t say as much for the Twits………..
June 26, 2020 @ 8:28 am
By “heritage”, do you mean an agricultural economy functioning on the labor of people taken from their homes, shipped here on chains, and forced to live no better than the livestock? Or perhaps the widespread use of Jim Crow laws after the ill-conceived, underfunded and outmanned rebellion failed? You mean THAT is what YOU call heritage? Whoa, what kind of BS were they teaching you in school? I like country, bluegrass and Americana music as much as the next person, but I don’t care to glorify anything prior to 1865.
But you have fun with that.
June 25, 2020 @ 9:17 pm
What a world we live in. Dixie and Antebellum are now racist terms. Un-fucking-believable. If people don’t think this is a dangerous, slippery slope, they’re deluding themselves.
This Natalie Maines song sucks.
June 25, 2020 @ 9:24 pm
The Chicks. Lol. They should have changed it to the Chixie Dicks. Maines is a loudmouth, self-important simpleton. This will backfire just like it will with Lady A(ntifa). The world has gone mad.
June 25, 2020 @ 9:34 pm
Somehow their name wasn’t offensive before May 25 George Floyd, but now it’s offensive. Mmmkay. If we’re going down that rabbit hole you might say the word “chicks” is quite offensive to plenty of SJWs…a microaggression, sexist, objectifying, misogynist, chauvinist. Certainly not empowering to women.
Even Webster’s dictionary agrees the word “chick” in reference to a woman is “sometimes offensive:”
3 informal + sometimes offensive : GIRL, WOMAN
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/chick
So what might be a completely inoffensive name? The Women? The Chickens? The 3 Amigos (oops, that’s cultural appropriation)? lol
June 27, 2020 @ 7:14 am
Hens
June 25, 2020 @ 10:01 pm
I really hate to crap all over someone’s art & talent because I certainly don’t possess their skills, but I just can’t find much I like about this tune musically. And because I’m so tuned out, I find I can’t concentrate on the lyrics. They should probably focus on rediscovering their sound and then focus on a name change.
June 25, 2020 @ 10:02 pm
I used to work in country radio during the height of the Dixie Chicks popularity. I remember my program director (who is still a close buddy of mine) telling me more than once, that the general consensus within the industry was that Natalie Maines was obnoxious and just wasn’t considered to be all that bright…well before the infamous concert remarks that eighty-sixed their career.
June 25, 2020 @ 10:08 pm
I applaud them trying to be sensitive to the times but The Chicks is kinda unfortunate. They should have gone with an entirely different moniker.
June 26, 2020 @ 8:26 am
Agreed, The Chicks is a really bad name. I wonder if it even retains any brand value?? They should have gone with “Maines, Maguire and Strayer” or something like that if they didn’t want to be the Dixie Chicks (which I think was a good name) any longer.
June 26, 2020 @ 10:25 am
Remember what happened when Lady Antebellum changed their name? They were applauded at first, but then labeled as racist, insensitive, and privileged because an R&B singer was already utilizing “Lady A.”
These are the entanglements and the slippery slope you traverse when you engage in this activity. I too respect these decisions and the intent behind them by these bands. But even with the name changes they face further scrutiny and open up subsequent dilemmas. That’s why I think it’s fair to discuss if focusing on as something as harmless as a band name is even worth the effort. There are plenty of examples of actual racism out there. Neither of these bands chose their names from bad or racist intentions. Let’s focus on the intent, not the name, and save our outrage and energy for actual racism.
June 25, 2020 @ 10:27 pm
Dixie Chicks are smart enough to know their fanbase and pander to it’s needs actively. But to me this move is so condescending and cynical, that it makes me wonder if this is a direct order from corporate headquarters.
June 26, 2020 @ 7:24 am
Isbell Pander 101.
June 25, 2020 @ 10:34 pm
I wish the chicks would have stuck with Rick Ruben. I liked that album. was not their old stuff. but i liked it. their new music is just not for me.
June 25, 2020 @ 11:37 pm
Who are YOU to tell me I can’t think for myself? I absolutely do. Apparently The Dixie Chicks are the ones brainwashed by the lockstep media, instead of standing up against this insane cancel culture. Sure, MOST social change IS progressive, and that’s for the better. But what’s happening now has gone far beyond that. It’s straight-up, unapologetic Marxism poorly disguised as “protests.” Black lives matter, the concept, no problem. BLM and Antifa the organizations…traitors and domestic terrorists. It’s plain as day. Stop spending your time trying to figure out what Biden is attempting to say, or which ice cream Dragon Lady Pelosi will be eating tonight instead of actually giving a damn and pay attention. And BTW…EVERY life matters.
June 26, 2020 @ 12:37 am
I don’t understand how could either the former Lady Antebellum and the former Dixie Chicks drop the confederation reference but not the gender imposing “lady” and “chicks”. The should be called “A” and “The”, until Articles are cancelled, that is.
June 26, 2020 @ 2:28 am
In other news, Disney is fighting racial inequality by changing their Splash Mountain rides to Princess and the Frog at the insistence of some petition signers on Change.org. Something about the ride having antebellum theming. lol
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2020/06/25/Disney-to-re-theme-Splash-Mountain-after-The-Princess-and-the-Frog/5531593121054/
Every brand out there is falling over themselves trying to virtue signal and market themselves with some silly change that was somehow fine for decades before June 2020.
June 26, 2020 @ 3:29 am
I’m almost 72 now and deep into my don’t give a flying fiddle years; thinking of changing my PKA to “Dixie Jimmy“.
June 26, 2020 @ 3:50 am
Grammy voters just went to full engorgement on this news.
I hope whomever their audience is lately is pleased with the new name.
June 26, 2020 @ 4:22 am
Don’t care about the name change. The music they are pandering sucks. They were good a long time ago.
June 26, 2020 @ 5:02 am
How about just changing their name to the Attention Whores? (if that name is not already taken possibly by a punk band or something)
June 26, 2020 @ 5:17 am
Song content and name change aside, Natalie Maines has finally killed off what was once a great country music band. It’s a damn shame. She talked a while back about how country music “burned my ears.” She doesn’t have to worry about her band doing that now.
June 26, 2020 @ 5:34 am
Changed their name and still managed to sound more country than Eric wear my sunglasses because I look like a mole rats asshole without them Church.
June 26, 2020 @ 5:38 am
I liked their early music, and still do. I never cared that they criticized Bush; I despise politicians myself. I certainly agree that they have the right to name their band however they please.
But this music is just bad. The problem isn’t that it’s “not country”, I listen to all sorts of music (the last album I listed to is Dion’s new blues album “Blues With Friends”–excellent!). It’s just that it’s lacking in any sort of spirit; it has devolved into a series of political ads. I get enough of that shit just trying to watch TV. I still get kinda misty when I hear “Traveling Soldier”; those musicians are, I guess, gone.
June 26, 2020 @ 5:45 am
I agree with some of what you wrote, Trigger, and disagree with other parts. But as always, I appreciate your viewpoint, your knowledge, and the context you bring to an argument. Good criticism makes me think more deeply about a topic, and that’s what you routinely do.
June 26, 2020 @ 8:19 am
Underrated comment right here.
June 26, 2020 @ 10:27 am
Thanks for reading, Hard Times.
June 26, 2020 @ 6:41 am
I’m about as left-wing as they come. Biracial, gay, pro-choice, etc. That being said, I love country music, have been for the longest time.
And while I agree with the fact that The Dixie Chicks can do whatever they want with their name, I feel that, like Lady A, it was unnecessary. And I also agree that it’s a slippery slope because it’s just going to pressure more artists and bands to follow suit as well.
June 26, 2020 @ 6:44 am
Strictly from a music standpoint, this direction does not surprise me at all. If you remember the bid Doc or Behind the Music on the band from years ago, Natalie discussed how she was not really a country music fan and more of a rock fan growing up and her father had to convince her to join the band. I really think that if her solo career would have taken off like she had hoped, then we would have rarely heard from the Dixie Chicks again, because her solo album was also not country at all. Since that did not generate the success she had hoped for, I think the next logical mover for her was to take the cash cow and really change the musical direction to more of her liking. Their fanbase is so solid, I don’t think it will affect them, however I think Zac Brown has been proof that you have to be real careful how far you take it can be a problem. I think a lot of their fans are not necessarily country fans, so the impact for them will not be bad at all.
June 26, 2020 @ 6:46 am
I’m just glad I can now sleep at night knowing that racism has finally been defeated.
June 26, 2020 @ 7:00 am
Not the best name…The Maines Chicks…Woke Chicks…Left Chicks…Forgotten Chicks…sounds so much better.
My favourite is The Old Hens Cackled.
Now it’s time to leave country music…it will make the (country) world a better place.
“The Old Hen Cackled & The Rooster’s Going To Crow” was recorded by Fiddlin’ John Carson in Atlanta (1923). It was the b-side to “The Little Old Log Cabin In The Lane”. The first recorded country song(s) with vocals (as far as i know).
June 26, 2020 @ 7:02 am
Amazing how they came to the conclusion during this particular month and never before despite being “woke.”
Almost like they are pandering to the outrage crowd.
Like the rest of companies and people desperately trying to kiss up to Marxists.
Read a history book or the Gulag Archipelago. Marxists are NEVER satisfied. Today’s progressive is tomorrow’s dinosaur.
Anyone who thinks Marxism is a good idea failed common sense.
June 26, 2020 @ 8:21 am
Good lord. Please, someone find a Marxist for me. I can’t find one. I can find you “woke” and outraged people who like country music and want a better world for everyone.
June 26, 2020 @ 9:00 am
Here’s one: https://youtu.be/HgEUbSzOTZ8
For starters.
Marxist regimes are killing machines that have left hundreds of millions dead.
Play time is over.
June 26, 2020 @ 9:19 am
Corncaster,
You know their typical reply: “It just hasn’t been done right.”
Not sure how many times it is allowed to try. It has failed humanity in every country it has been tried. Some ideas are just poison.
Amazing how supposedly smart people fall for it but then again their degrees are in indoctrination.
June 26, 2020 @ 9:14 am
One of the co-founders of BLM is a committed Marxist.
Our universities and schools are filled with them. Believe me, I have experienced it. I work with them.
June 26, 2020 @ 7:04 am
I think it’s ok, as a pop song.
The instrumental work at the end is very nice, and the build-up to it is well done.
I’d rate its country-ness the same as the Eric Church song.
The name change is marketing.
Dubya is a war criminal; Obama is too. Both are neocons. One wore red; the other wore blue.
June 26, 2020 @ 7:55 am
Obama was not a neocon. He was too left for that.
June 26, 2020 @ 7:20 am
Might as well be The Chick because this is clearly a solo act now.
June 26, 2020 @ 7:28 am
“Woke bullshit? I guess I was woke in fifth grade”
Bullshit- asleep is more like it as were your conformity instructors- yankees, i.e., reconstructionist were every bit the racist they accused the south of but were pissed the South gained from it financially- Period. End of Story.
Have you ever heard of, oh woke one, The Articles of Confederation? Do you know what they were and who came up with them?
The Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union was an agreement among the 13 original states of the United States of America that served as its first constitution. It was approved, after much debate, by the Second Continental Congress on November 15, 1777, and sent to the states for ratification. Wikipedia
The Dixie whatevers and people of their ilk (narcissist) are shallow, narrow minded and extremely superficial- so, they can’t be substantive and neither can their thoughts or beliefs as the shallowness promotes image over substance. They are ignorant acolytes pretending to be erudite-
BTW, Trigger, I still think you should consider taking up writing as an occupation. You are better than any mainstream author I’ve run across, and I read voraciously.
Excellent job!
June 26, 2020 @ 7:37 am
at the risk of sounding insensitive , naïve and ‘foreign’ I sure miss the old days when we were all here to Save COUNTRY Music.
I’ll be over here listening to Storms Of Life if you guys wouldn’t mind keeping the chatter down a little . appreciate it …thanks …
June 26, 2020 @ 7:38 am
We all know where Natalie was two days ago.
https://youtu.be/ob-fP7BfXhs
June 26, 2020 @ 7:40 am
at the risk of sounding insensitive , naïve and ‘foreign’ I sure miss the old days when we were all here to Save COUNTRY Music.
I’ll be over here listening to Storms Of Life if you guys wouldn’t mind keeping the chatter down a little . appreciate it …thanks …
June 26, 2020 @ 8:14 am
This is even worse than the new Sturgill record
June 26, 2020 @ 8:15 am
All I know is if heaven ain’t a lot like Dixie I don’t wanna go.
June 26, 2020 @ 10:02 am
Oh, no – you’re gonna dog-whistle all the Jr haters into this!
June 26, 2020 @ 10:09 am
Damn you’re right. Shhh… Move along folks nothing to see here.
June 26, 2020 @ 8:48 am
Just curious if you have any inside info: Was there any thought to changing their name to Court Yard Hounds? Or would that be an idea that Natalie would reject just because . . .
June 26, 2020 @ 10:33 am
I don’t have any info on that. But seeing how this was the side project of the sisters, I don’t think it was considered. The whole reason they’re still using a play on the Dixie Chicks is because that’s the name that can sell out arenas. The Court Yard Hounds could never do that.
June 26, 2020 @ 8:12 pm
True, but calling themselves “The Artists Fornerly Known As The Dixie Chicks” would solve that problem.
June 26, 2020 @ 8:58 am
I don’t have any issue with them dropping “Dixie”, but I’d almost prefer that they choose a completely different name than “The Chicks”, which just sounds kinda silly. Same goes for dropping “Antebellum”. Couldn’t care less that they did it, but I really think they could come up with something better than “Lady A”.
It’s 2020. Changing the name of a big artist shouldn’t be a big deal. Word gets around fast on social media, and the music matters way more than what they call themselves.
I love Cody Jinks’ music. That would still be true even if he changed his name to Pastor Silly Putty.
June 26, 2020 @ 9:08 am
Just over here trying to figure out how Trigger gave an 8/10 to Eric Church’s latest rock song – which name drops exclusively cities (because rural areas don’t have the same problems :eyeroll:), while kicking “The Chicks” out of country
June 26, 2020 @ 10:25 am
Oh shit you’re right. Eric Church should legally change his name because the word church is synonymous with Christianity and we all know the evil they perpetuated by forcing their religion on ingenious people. Now I’m offended and I won’t listen to a note of Eric’s music until he does something to fix this issue.
June 26, 2020 @ 10:39 am
I’m not kicking The Chicks out of country. I want The Chicks to succeed, and specifically in the realm of country music. I think making amends with The Chicks and bringing them back in the fold of the country music community should be a priority, and is vital to making one of the greatest mistakes and offenses in country music history right.
Country music seems to be interested in this as well, inviting them to perform on the 50th Annual CMA Awards, and showing initial support behind “Gaslighter” on radio. But unfortunately, Natalie Maines seems to be the one hellbent on not allowing it to happen, ripping open old scabs, pouring salt in them, while a man, Jack Antonoff, butts his way into the conversation so he can earn another Grammy Award for working a mouse.
This whole episode makes me sick. “Gaslighter” could have been an important moment where the sin of what happened to The Chicks was resolved. Country music is on board. I am on board. It’s Natalie Maines who isn’t.
June 26, 2020 @ 2:10 pm
Trigger, what does any of that have to do with how country or not this song is? Natalie Maines’ personal political opinions aren’t really relevant to how country a song is. And by the way I don’t think March March is country, but it is certainly not less country then Eric Church.
Also I fail to see why Natalie’s political opinions are rubbing salt in old wounds, or should have anything to do with the Chicks place in country music. Unless you can only express Conservative and/or Pro-Trump political positions and still be considered country.
June 26, 2020 @ 9:14 am
Hey Trigger,
Not even interested in addressing the convoluted content of this take.
Aside from it, reading through the comments of this article and many others, I’m surprised you don’t have some impulse to disassociate yourself from the manifestly racist and sexist takes that dominate the threads on your blog. I understand you can’t control what other’s say but you could forcefully disown them. Just on this post you have many defenders of the confederacy and ‘the cause’, and a fair amount of sexist stuff about Natalie Maines. We disagree often, but I’m guessing you don’t want to be a country music offshoot of a 4Chan chatboard; cause that what your comments section is becoming.
You could, for instance, end a post like this with “and fuck off if you defend the confederacy” just so it’s clear where you stand, and I’m sure it is where you stand (hopefully). Other’s racists are seeing you as like-minded, that much is clear as day.
June 26, 2020 @ 9:34 am
he often does chime in and disassociate himself in the comments, but it’s usually in response to someone who disagrees with the comments you are talking about for stirring the pot and not keeping on topic.
the confederate flag is a participation ribbon.
June 26, 2020 @ 10:53 am
Ryan,
I appreciate the concern. Anything in these comments sections that I see that can be deemed clearly sexist or racist is deleted, and multiple comments in this comments section and others have been deleted due to this concern. The thing about deleted comments is that nobody sees them. That means it’s hard to verify that action is being taken against this type of activity.
That said, if someone calls Natalie Maines “fat,” it’s ugly and unfortunate, but it’s a general insult, not sexist. And if you find that offensive, go to Natalie’s social media feeds and see some of the things she has said about people she doesn’t like. It will make someone calling her fat seem harmless.
As for the Confederacy stuff, there was an extended thread of comments that was posted early this morning before I was awake that I may have tried to hem off. But I’ve chosen to keep it up because there are other commenters challenging them, and I feel this lends to healthy dialogue and education on matters. And again, anything that can be deemed outright racist has and will be deleted.
June 26, 2020 @ 11:12 am
Let’s be honest if you clamped down on racism and misogyny you would lose a large number of your commentators. You play the both sides game leaning heavily right. If Stormfront had an entertainment section this would but it but it’s your home and we are all guests here and can leave any time.
June 26, 2020 @ 11:33 am
This isn’t far enough. As the moderator and content manager of this blog you set the tone. It’s way insufficient to let pro-confederate versus anti-confederate “debate” stand for the purpose of “healthy dialogue” without you taking a stand yourself. As it stands, you appear to be a neutral observer between racist and anti-racist positions. I can’t imagine that’s where you land, and you should correct the record if so. You’re the owner and leader of this blog, so you could do some leading.
Another way would be to tell your pro-confederate fans a fuller perspective: “Dixie Chicks are silly for dropping ‘Dixie’; AND the confederacy and what it stood have no place in country music, don’t be confused my friends”. Unless that isn’t your position. Cause it’s clear that many of your acolytes are reading your opinion as some kind of soft defense of the confederacy. I would imagine that you wouldn’t like that and would feel compelled to set them straight in clear and uncertain terms. But that hasn’t happened.
June 26, 2020 @ 2:08 pm
“As the moderator and content manager of this blog you set the tone.”
I may set the tone with the article itself. But when it comes to comments, it would be underhanded and unethical for me to attempt to “set the tone” or sway the conversation in a certain direction. There are plenty of comments sections where I get positively trounced by my own readers, and I want to keep it that way. I attempt to start swaying the conversation one way or another, the comments could become nothing more than an echo chamber.
Also, I am just not seeing these pro-Confederate, pro-slavery comments you’re talking about. Now I may have missed something, but the comments I’m seeing here are well within the realm of mainstream thought. You may disagree, but I’m just not seeing anyone saying the Confederacy was good. I’m seeing comments I happen to disagree with, or that may cross a line of decency. But I always err on the side of NOT engaging in censorship. If you see something problematic, speak up, challenge it. If you censor a comment, that doesn’t make the bad idea behind that comment disappear. If anything, it may embolden it. The best way to destroy bad ideas is to challenge them. Otherwise, you’re just encouraging them to go live somewhere else.
“Another way would be to tell your pro-confederate fans a fuller perspective: “Dixie Chicks are silly for dropping ‘Dixie’; AND the confederacy and what it stood have no place in country music, don’t be confused my friends”.
First, my renouncement of The Confederacy and slavery should be a given, as it should for most all Americans. Stating that feels like signaling, and self-serving. Of course I’m against The Confederacy. But I also understand that it’s a part of our history, and trying to bury it runs the potential risk of repeating it.
Second, I don’t think The Chicks are “silly” for dropping “Dixie.” I support their move, just like I did with Lady Antebellum, and expressed that without mincing words in this article. I also denounced the people who are calling them cowards for giving into public pressure, and also denounced the people still criticizing them for what they said about President Bush. A big problem here is that many come to this site assuming I’m some right-leaning ideologue as opposed to reading my words.
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I have posted over 6,100 articles on Saving Country Music. Out of those, the most read article on this site in history was posted on March 10th, 2013 called “Destroying The Dixie Chicks, Ten Years After.” Here’s a link:
https://savingcountrymusic.com/destroying-the-dixie-chicks-ten-years-after/
In the article, I spell out in detail why what happened to The Dixie Chicks was an embarrassment to country music, and a stain on its history. I believe it is important in the effort to “save country music” to renounce what happened to The Chicks, and try to right that wrong.
The problem is, Natalie Maines doesn’t seem to want to do that. She wants to incite people. And so you get comments sections like this. And it’s not just here. Post about The Chicks anywhere, and chaos ensues. That not my fault, and it’s in no way exclusive to Saving Country Music.
June 26, 2020 @ 2:49 pm
There’s a lot there.
“The best way to destroy bad ideas is to challenge them. Otherwise, you’re just encouraging them to go live somewhere else.”
This is deliberate straw-man side-stepping or a misunderstanding of what I’m saying. I’m telling YOU that YOU should take this exact advice. I never once told you to “censor”; instead I advised that you may want to take steps to ensure your site doesn’t gain a reputation for hosting hard-line racists who espouse nostalgic pro-confederacy revisionist history. (These sentiments and ideas may be “mainstream” amongst racists or the confused, but it doesn’t make them any less wrong, factually and morally.) The way to do that is to provide a full-throated disavowing of these kinds of ideas, even in the comments, because last I check they’re apart of your site. 6,100 articles aren’t going to save you if your site becomes a petri dish for right-wing hate, which is where it’s drifting.
“A big problem here is that many come to this site assuming I’m some right-leaning ideologue as opposed to reading my words.”
This is where we disagree. I think the bigger problem is not left-wingers coming here and victimizing you, misunderstanding you, misquoting you, etc.; it’s right-wing confederate sympathizers evidently misunderstanding you to be an ally. I think that’s what you should wrestle with. Disabuse them of the notion!
“But I also understand that it’s a part of our history, and trying to bury it runs the potential risk of repeating it.”
This is a misnomer often repeated when “history” and “monuments” and “names” come up to dismiss the legitimacy of the real concern. There is a miles difference space between “burying” history and glorifying and valorazing its ugliest actors. Evoking the destruction of Abe Lincoln statues and Grant monuments to critique those who want change in our public spaces as “cancel-culture snowflakes” is just straw-man. I’m for Grant and Lincoln statues, too, keep ’em up! But where you do you stand on the REAL issue: statutes, monuments, and community spaces devoted to people who are solely known to history because they devoted themselves to a racist cause.
June 26, 2020 @ 4:57 pm
Ryan,
Between the time I went to bed last night and woke up this morning, there were 79 comments posted on this article alone. Sometimes I have time to address comments, sometimes I don’t. If someone is leaving a comment about how Natalie Maines is fat or The Chicks are stupid for changing their name, they’re indolent trolls who don’t need to be fed and dignified with a response from me anyway. Instead, I chose to address and respond to comments like yours that directly address me and the handling of this site. Ideally, I probably would have addressed more comments on this article. But I had a review to finish and other pressing matters. I completely recognize that some people feel these comments section and this website have taken a right turn lately. But guess what, country music is under attack, and these people feel the need to voice their opinions, and most country fans tend to lean right naturally. But again, if people are seeing comments they feel are problematic, I encourage them to address them directly. Blaming me for them, or tattling to me about them, isn’t going to put an end to them unless I start to censor them more aggressively, which I am unwilling to do.
I’m not trying to say I’m perfect, and I am frustrated too how every comments section is devolving into political discussions. But this is happening EVERYWHERE. In no way is it native or unique to Saving Country Music. I will continue to try and make sure these comments sections are healthy and balanced, but that’s going to take a commitment from everyone, including people with dissenting viewpoints piping up directly, instead of putting it all on me. It’s important I don’t run an autocracy here.
June 26, 2020 @ 3:25 pm
“I’m telling YOU that YOU should take this exact advice.”
My values are as liberal as they come….and this is exactly what’s wrong with the left today. Who the fuck are you and what kind of power trip are you on that you need people to conform exactly the way you want them to, or you act like a crybaby who didn’t get their way? I don’t agree with many commenters here. So what? Grow up already.
June 26, 2020 @ 3:48 pm
Jake Cutter, you know what else? If it were up to me, the confederate monuments would all be down and you’d be mandated to wear a mask! You’d be so oppressed.
June 26, 2020 @ 4:01 pm
What a shock that someone who spends countless paragraphs crying about Trigger not conforming to their demanded conformity, makes rush to judgement assumptions that are completely ass backwards. Didn’t see that coming at all.
June 26, 2020 @ 5:00 pm
Lot of projection here about crying. Disabuse me! Jake Cutter: would you take down confederate monuments and have people in masks? State those liberal values! What do you believe? Go for it.
June 26, 2020 @ 5:20 pm
Again, Trigger, framing what I’m saying as “tattling” is a non-issue. In fact, it’s the exact opposite. I’m not the one who’s been gun-shy about being direct about racist views, my critique is that you’ve been.
I appreciate you being unequivocal the few times you have been. Just in this discussion with me, I appreciate what you’ve said. It’s refreshing and helps readers know where you stand.
“But guess what, country music is under attack, and these people feel the need to voice their opinions, and most country fans tend to lean right naturally.”
I’m not totally sure what you’re saying here. Many of country musics greatest artists and performers currently and of all time have been subversive, progressive, and feminist.
If you believe “country music” fans are by and large conservative politically, let’s make a bigger tent.
If you’re saying that there is a problem in left-wing circles of demeaning working-class conservatives, country music, and the south more broadly that dismisses their value, intelligence, and concerns, I agree. And that many people feel like key components of their identity are under attack and that they’re struggles are important too, I also totally agree. I think you talk with them, not deride them. Shit, I’m among them. Of course, it also doesn’t excuse racism when it pops up, cause that’s in there too, and on this site in the comments. Appreciate your replies.
June 26, 2020 @ 5:50 pm
Ryan,
It’s not projection, it’s (slight) exaggeration. Whining might be the non exaggerated word for it. Instead of listing values and deflecting to talk about masks, something not at all relevant to this article or even your original comments, lets’s talk about speech, and your “whining” about Trigger not making the compelled speech of YOUR direction. Yeah, that’s not liberal. That’s regressive authoritarianism. You’ll have some witty comeback, or try to change the subject to something like masks again… go for it.
June 26, 2020 @ 7:10 pm
You said I was making assumptions about you and your politics when I wrote that I’d tear down all confederate monuments and make you wear a mask and that it wasn’t fair. Maybe it wasn’t. The implication is I got something wrong by assuming. What assumption did I make that was wrong? Do you think the Confederacy should be honored or not? It’s confusing why so many tough “free speech” guys wont speak their truths, even when directly asked. This is your chance, liberal.
June 28, 2020 @ 9:46 am
I don’t know why it’s so hard for you to argue your point, instead of changing the subject and questioning if I’m a liberal or not. Oh wait, I do …. it’s because your argument is incredibly weak. Your point and my my point are very straight forward, to discuss, yet you want to talk about masks and statues instead. Deflection, ad hominem……yawn. Disappointing but not surprising. Hopefully you can find a more sanitized and purified blog to frequent where everyone can be self righteous in lock step without deviation from your whiny demands. Good luck!
June 30, 2020 @ 12:37 pm
Alright Jake Cutter. Last try. Me bringing up the confederacy is part and parcel of what my discussion has been about and that’s exactly because it’s what lots of the discussion has been about on this thread. It’s hard for me to believe you haven’t noticed. This isn’t deflection, it’s completely on the topic. I think what you more mean to say is you wish it wasn’t the topic. That’s a different issue.
It’s always amazing how people can be exactly what they decry. Not being able to respond directly to two straightforward questions could be regarded as “deflection”. Your unwillingness to agree that slavery-endorsing confederate traitors ought not be honored in our public spaces is noted. I fail to see how anyone other than a confederate sympathizer wouldn’t be completely public about that view, even if they misguidedly thought it was “off-topic”. Must be where you stand.
And you’re right that I think racist ideas are bad and I’ll say so. I don’t think that’s a character flaw that suggests some kind of inner weakness; you imply it is. We disagree.
June 26, 2020 @ 9:28 am
I was going to make some smart assed remark but there are plenty already. I think BET founder Robert Johnson’s take on celebrity Wokeness is a pretty good take on these things:
“You know, that to me is the silliest expression of white privilege that exists in this country. The notion that a celebrity could get on a Twitter feed and say, ‘oh, my God, I am so sorry that I am white.’ I don’t find any black people getting on Twitter and saying, ‘Oh, I’m so sorry I’m black.’ And we got the worst problems. … My thing is: embrace being white and do the right thing.”
“White Americans seem to think that if they just do sort of emotionally or drastic things that black people are going to say, ‘Oh my God, white people love us because they took down a statue of Stonewall Jackson.’ Frankly, black people don’t give a damn,” Johnson added.
June 26, 2020 @ 9:36 am
Heard this in the background yesterday and thought it sounded like a very old folk song. Noticed the banjo and fiddle more than the EDM. But it was at very low volume and I wasn’t paying much attention. I’ll have to give it a real listen and see if it’s as bad musically as people are saying. My first impression was that it was much more interesting than the last couple of songs they’ve released.
June 26, 2020 @ 10:03 am
What we are seeing today is not social progression.
It is social destruction.
Let’s get the terminology correct.
June 26, 2020 @ 10:27 am
I have learnt so much about country music on this website and its given me so much music to enjoy that I would never have found otherwise. What I still find concerning is the definition of genre outside of country in these forums. Pop = bad, pop producers = money grabbers. That is not the case and I think that research into pop music would be beneficial.
“Jack Antonoff is one of the guys who lured Taylor Swift away from country music, and now it appears he’s doing the same with The Chicks. Wonder why there’s so few women in country? This is partly to blame”
Taylor Swift made the decision to leave country, Antonoff didn’t lure her. Previous articles here have stated Swift was always pop so their was no luring to do in the first place. He’s not controlling the Chicks. They haven’t made record in 13 years, its understandable that they might have changed their sound, especially considering their history in country music. As I have posted before, Antonoff is known for working alongside female musicians from different genres. March March is also NOT EDM music. EDM refers to electronic dance music and I don’t think anyone is dancing to that song. Pop music is built on all kinds of genres and just because a song has electronic beat doesn’t mean it’s inherently bad. It’s just not to your taste.
This is quite rightly a website for country music fans, I get that and it is the right of Trigger to write about the music he is so passionate about. However, by lumping pop music into this pile of greedy money grabbing chart chasers you are missing out on pop that is actually great. Is March March country, hell no, is it interesting as a pop song? Yes, no other pop artist is using banjo or fiddle in their music so I’m glad to hear it if it ever makes the airwaves which I highly doubt. As I said, Antonoff isn’t just some button pusher. Listen to his work with Lana Del Rey which is largely an organization affair.
I don’t want this website to be about pop, that’s not what it is about. But on the otherhand, know your facts about pop music. Otherwise its painting a picture of pop music that most certainly isn’t true.
June 26, 2020 @ 10:47 am
In my opinion, it is the job of a producer to either bring out, or get out of the way of the natural talents of whomever they are producing. When you virtually sideline two of the three members of a trio, and take away what is coll and unique about them, which is their three deftly-skilled instrumentalists centered around wood and wire and make it all about your electronic sequences and beats, you’re robbing that music of its inherent beauty.
Granted, we’ve only heard three songs. We have to hear the whole record before we come to any solid conclusions. But it’s not going well so far. Where are the harmonies?
As for Taylor Swift, the more fundamental point there was that when you do have women who are native to the country space and you pull them out, it creates a void. Taylor Swift leaving country music after receiving tons of awards, touring opportunities, and radio play created a gap that was in part responsible for the lack of women in country music we’ve been experiencing in subsequent years.
June 26, 2020 @ 3:52 pm
In fairness to Antonoff, he’s largely responsible for all the NON-trash tracks Swift has released since 1989.
I think it’s more fair to blame Maines.
June 26, 2020 @ 6:38 pm
Not country related, but I saw Maroon 5 on tv playing one of their recent songs. The song was entirely beats and computer sounds, yet the band was trying to make it look like they were playing instruments. I kinda felt sorry for the band members who are essentially props for Adam Levine.
June 26, 2020 @ 6:52 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYzPRNI1YTk
June 26, 2020 @ 12:01 pm
I want to go on record that I *never* liked the Dixie Chicks music. Way before they dissed President Bush, a friend played me a couple of their tunes. I said then, “that is NOT country music!” My opinion of their music hasn’t changed. By definition, they play POP country, and I agree with Hank III that “pop country really sucks!”
Also, it is presumptuous of them to use “Chicks” in their name–don’t they realize that the left has abolished gender? So maybe they could call themselves “The Neuters”? Or maybe they could call themselves “The Pop Country Singers of an Undefined Gender”?
June 26, 2020 @ 12:13 pm
I actually understand their dropping “Dixie” from the band name – the Mason-Dixon Line was literally the cutoff between Free Soil and the Slave States.
As such, “Dixie” doesn’t refer to “The South.” It refers to “Former Slave States.”
This song isn’t good, though. If Maines wants to do a solo album with Antonoff, she should go ahead and do one.
If she wants to call it a Dixie Chicks album, Martie and Emily should be FAR more involved than they’ve been thus far.
I don’t like Natalie Maines and I don’t like Courtyard Hounds. I LOVE The Chicks.
This isn’t a Chicks song.
June 26, 2020 @ 1:16 pm
So by this logic what does this say about them then? For how many years did they find it acceptable to call themselves “The Former Slave State Chicks,” only to change their name due to pressure?
June 26, 2020 @ 1:44 pm
It says they do not have a spine.
Along with all the other happy horseshit groups out there, whether we are talking about musical groups, “woke” groups, business groups, big box stores, etc.
June 26, 2020 @ 3:39 pm
It tells me that they likely didn’t quite understand the implications of the name when they chose it, 31 years ago.
It also tells me that, once they did become aware of those implications…they changed their name, rather than throwing a fucking hissyfit about it.
So, yeah. “What this says about them” is that they have principles, integrity, and humility.
The song sucks, though.
June 26, 2020 @ 3:48 pm
Changing the name now, in 2020, 31 years after choosing the name, after seeing “Lady A” do it, seeing statues come down, protests, etc…..waiting until just now…now that their is pressure to conform, even though YOU clearly understand what the word Dixie means……that shows “integrity” to you? So you’re saying they didn’t “understand” what the name they chose to represent themselves for 31 years meant? Are they dumb? Just trying to follow your logic here.
June 26, 2020 @ 4:28 pm
No, it says that they changed for the sake of woke points. Marvelous how they came to the conclusion in the midst of other companies and bands changing their name and not before.
It has nothing to do with principles. But keep white knighting for them. Maybe Natalie will blow you a kiss from the stage.
June 26, 2020 @ 7:10 pm
…”So, yeah. “What this says about them” is that they have principles, integrity, and humility.”…
Come on Jester, admit it, you were smirking when you typed that.
June 26, 2020 @ 12:22 pm
I am going to hold stubbornly to my name.
June 26, 2020 @ 12:26 pm
Came here for these comments as soon as I saw the name change.
You folks did not disappoint. Yikes.
Some band most people here don’t like changes their name and everyone here can’t type fast enough about how they don’t care.
And somehow we get to the Civil War and Marxism. Awesome.
Folks, the South lost. They were beaten by better Generals and for a better cause.
Because they lost we still have a United States of America. I’m pretty happy they lost.
Have a Happy Fourth of July.
June 26, 2020 @ 3:01 pm
Riff:
There is not a single reputable historian who attempts to make the argument that the Union had better generals than the Confederacy did. Why? Because it is not true. The Union generals were, in fact, incompetent for the most part. The only reason the Union won was because of more manpower and more materiel.
June 26, 2020 @ 4:33 pm
The South was beaten because the Civil War was the first modern war and the North had the most modern industry and manpower. Learn some history. Grant’s strategy against Lee boiled down to, “I have reserves. Lee doesn’t thus I will face the arithmetic as Lincoln desired.”
And really, the chains of our big government started during the Civil War. Big government, the draft, and the income tax all started. States rights were forever tarnished. We won much and lost much during the Civil War. It is a complex war that Twitter wants to be black and white.
June 26, 2020 @ 7:05 pm
Riff,
I too am happy that the Democrat Party lost the Civil War. I just wish Lincoln had gone ahead and broke up their party for good. He was a decent man, and had no way of knowing that 155 year later they’d still be oppressing black folks and trying to destroy his legacy, along with trying to destroy his statue.
June 26, 2020 @ 8:59 pm
And now the party of Lincoln defends the confederate battle flag and its legacy, and gets angry at girl bands when they don’t do what you want.
The south lost. Pick a flag, Old Glory or the one the losers flew, and have Happy Fourth of July.
June 26, 2020 @ 10:45 pm
The party of Lincoln doesn’t defend the Democrat battle flag, but it is unfortunate that some people who vote Republican are ignorantly clinging to a flag that goes against their values. They’ve ignorantly bought into the heritage idea.
Yep, the Democrats certainly lost. I don’t need to pick a flag; I was never a Democrat.
June 26, 2020 @ 1:28 pm
The Shitty Chicks is what they should have went with.
June 26, 2020 @ 2:08 pm
I get that they had their reasons for wanting to change their name, but ‘The Chicks’ is just so dull and uninspiring. I suppose it is fitting now they seem intent on going down the route of making music that is devoid of everything that made them good in the first place. The particular song at discussion here is not to my taste at all. I don’t like all the fake sounding electronic noises that sound like a kid was sat at the mixing desk thinking ‘what does this button do?’ I also think that the fiddle and banjo sound like they were just put in as an afterthought more than halfway through the song. It is sad, because Natalie still has a pleasant singing voice, Emily and Martie are competent musicians and yet we end up with this poor excuse for a song.
June 26, 2020 @ 4:12 pm
“The Union Chicks”
June 26, 2020 @ 4:52 pm
What is Patterson going to do? After all, John Bell Hood was a Confederate general (and has an Army fort in Texas named after him).
June 26, 2020 @ 6:07 pm
My brother was a MedEvac chopper pilot out of Fort Hood, Texas, Fort Rucker, Alabama, etc.
He is now Letterman’s pilot, and is getting young Rahal to different races in the Indy Racing League.
Guaran-damn-tee he would smile at the notion of Fort Hood changing their name.
June 26, 2020 @ 7:43 pm
The Indy Racing League (IRL) is long gone…it’s the (NTT) IndyCar Series. Like the Indianapolis Motor Speedway & the Indy 500 owned by Roger Penske since last year.
June 26, 2020 @ 8:10 pm
You are quite right.
However, those of us from the Tony George and the IRL days, sometimes still refer to it as the IRL
June 26, 2020 @ 7:08 pm
Trig,
As far as “Chicks” being offensive:
Refer to a woman by any word other than “woman” and somebody is going to accuse you misogyny or worse. You can’t say “broad,” (unless you’re Sinatra); I referred to Pelosi as a “dame” on a political sited and got called out for that. I’ve also heard that “gal” is offensive. And, of course chick.
On the other hand, you can refer to a man by just about any noun you can come up with–seriously, humorously, or ironically–a guy, a fellow, a fella, a dude, a chap, a bloke, a gent, a character, a Jack a mook, a schlemiel, a gavone, a knucklehead, a dandy, a fop–and no one thinks anything of it.
June 26, 2020 @ 7:12 pm
Toby Keith has been given special dispensation to laugh his ass off.
June 26, 2020 @ 7:52 pm
I’ll say it again. I feel sorry for Martie and Emily.
June 26, 2020 @ 8:50 pm
And now we have Mike Henry, a white voice actor, having to leave his role of Cleveland on Family Guy…a role he’s had for 20 YEARS. All of a sudden, we just can’t have that. The angry mob forcing him from his job is also discrimination. I understand being sensitive to racial issues, moving forward and being better. But this newfound “progress” isn’t that at all. It’s dangerous, and just flat-out wrong.
If you give a mouse a cookie, he’ll ask for a glass of milk. If you give this traitorous mob a cookie, they’ll demand bakeries in all 50 states, the District of Columbia, Canada and Puerto Rico. Then they’ll burn them down because they’re upset about whatever new excuse they thought of today. Nothing will ever be enough for them…so just give them nothing.
June 27, 2020 @ 5:35 am
I find it funny that the kept the ‘chicks’ part. Many feminists think ‘chicks’ is a derogatory term towards women so why only change the ‘dixie’ part if they’re going to go full virtue signal?
June 27, 2020 @ 9:19 am
Virtuoso instrumental band the Dixie Dregs changed their name to The Dregs decades ago under completely different circumstances but to a similar end. The word “Dixie” suggests a certain sensibility to certain people, and both organizations wanted to cast off its limitations and say “Don’t look for that here.” An articulate writer with as clear a mission statement as Trigger would be remiss not to point out that The Chicks no longer feel beholden to make country music, and he did.
At the risk of seeming off-topic, country music has been described as”the white man’s blues” by so many luminaries that I can’t find the origin. The music’s African-American roots are well-documented, but clearly some people unashamedly and without malice feel country music at it’s best to be about the white experience.
I’ve never gotten the impression that Trigger and his highly informative and entertaining SCM site was about saving the art form from racial diversity. All about sounds, not skin. I’m not sure about some of country’s other “defenders.”
Willie Nelson said Ray Charles did more for country music than any other human on the planet. A new “Modern Sounds In Country and Western” high-profile project by a black artist detailing today’s black experience through actual country music (“Black Like Me” is a good crack in that door) would do more than any white artist changing their band name, though the gesture is admirable (and promotionally timely).
June 28, 2020 @ 4:36 am
We care a lot. Now buy our music.
We’ve been irrelevant for years but give us attention please.
Anyone with half a brain ought to have utter contempt for all the folks out there monetizing Covid 19 and BLM.
There is no shame now in click-bait 15-second of fame and attention America. Anything to get a headline or article for those $$$.
Amazed how many people can’t see through the make a buck bs.
June 28, 2020 @ 5:25 am
A couple of questions come to mind: If they tour, will they still perform their hits? Because if they’re forsaking country music, they will be obliged to play tracks like the (above) awful song. And when no one attends their concerts, will it be because those backward hillbillies are still holding a grudge? Changing their name and adopting a new, questionable style still won’t make them relevant.
June 29, 2020 @ 4:45 pm
Well I ain’t changing my SCM comments section name, I don’t care who dixiechicks me.