The Difficult Task of Translating Americana’s Diversity From the Stage to the Crowd
I remember saying it myself when the Carolina Chocolate Drops first came on the scene. Excellent band, and great to see some diversity represented in country and Americana music in a way that illustrates the role African American’s played in creating the roots music we enjoy today. But there was just something a little bit off about watching a black band playing for a distinctly white, affluent, older, and in many cases advanced-educated audience that the Carolina Chocolate Drops drew.
That’s not a knock on Americana, or the crowds, or the Carolina Chocolate Drops. You cannot criticize the Americana music industry or its fans for not promoting, celebrating, and welcoming diversity, because they’re leading the charge when it comes to making sure all of the elements that go into the roots of American music are represented.
From Mavis Staples and the McCrary Sisters, Keb Mo and The Mavericks, to many great blues artists and William Bell’s latest album This Is Where I Live being nominated for Best Americana Album for the 2017 Grammy Awards, Americana has gone out of its way—maybe even too far out in some respects—to make sure people of color grace its stages, and are well-represented in its accolades.
It’s a common practice for people in the “NPR demographic” (if you will) to want to seek out diversity in their culture. And this is something that is incredibly important in breaking down the walls of perspective, and should be fostered and celebrated. It’s imperative on all of us, especially in the era of social network and political polarization where our reality tunnels continue to constrict, to seek out different perspectives and experiences to inform the way we see the world. Music has always been one of the best catalysts for this exercise, because in a world where it’s hard to agree on much of anything, the beauty of musical expression can still be one of the few mediums of consensus by illustrating how we all hurt, and we all love.
The issue of Americana music and race came up a few weeks ago when MTV’s Charles Aaron broached the subject in a 35-paragraph dissertation about Americana and race, using the example of an artist named Adia Victoria as an example of Americana’s race problem, though also admitting that Adia Victoria didn’t want to be labeled Americana. This and other flawed reasoning by Charles Aaron were taken to task by Craig Havighurst of Music City Roots and WMOT in a proper and respectful rebuttal. Saving Country Music also gave its two cents on the subject, while almost simultaneously, Adia Victoria also responded to the lingering controversy in a Facebook post.
A slightly abbreviated version Adia Victoria’s post is below:
When I was approached to do an interview with MTV for their feature on Americana I initially declined. Having spent the past two years distancing myself from the ever expanding largesse of music that Americana assumes to represent, I was exhausted of the subject. But I accepted, hoping that if I aired my concerns in the open with all that I find problematic about Americana I would finally be left alone to make my art.
The exact opposite happened.
I read Mr Havighurst’s response, and underscoring it is an apparent confusion as to why I have kept my distance and remain critical of a community that has wanted to embrace me from the start of my career. He lists my accomplishments in what is seen as their world. He says I haven’t been shunned due to the color of my skin and had that been the case he would be up in righteous arms.
He’s right. I have not been shunned due to the color of my skin. I have not been denied the opportunity to preform my art at festivals and venues. Quite the opposite, in fact. I have been awed over and placed in the category of ‘Black People We Like!’ by White tastemakers in the industry. I have been treated as a special exotic ornament that they can point to and say ‘see! see! That, too, is Americana!’
The music journalists began to lump me under the Americana label after I self-released my first song back in 2014…
…But here’s the rub: I’m not yours. You do not decide under what genre I create and what community I represent. Americana is laced with a subtle obsession with representing ‘true’ ‘authentic’ American roots music. As the AMA Facebook page loudly proclaims in all caps: THE MISSION OF THE AMERICANA MUSIC ASSOCIATION IS TO ADVOCATE FOR THE AUTHENTIC VOICE OF AMERICAN ROOTS MUSIC AROUND THE WORLD.
My question here is who is doing the deciding here? Who decides what is ‘true’ and ‘authentic’ in American music? Given that Americana music is consumed overwhelmingly by White crowds, the music must be marketed and represented in a way that is palatable for white tastes and sensibilities. This presents another problem for the Black Artist creating art in the presence of the White gaze.
Growing up in this country as a Black kid, you are taught as a survival skill to know how to disarm and keep Whiteness appeased and happy. It is too often a matter of life and death for people of color. When I decided to make my art it was in the spirit of defiance of all the lessons given to me in order to survive White Supremacy.
There is an arrogance in assuming that your community can claim an artist because she represents the things you would like to see yourself representing. Americana thinks of itself as the more ‘enlightened’ arm of the country music machine, yet I look at the artists you laud, and I am met with the same homogenous blanket of White (throw in a few token artists of color to keep the mix right.)
My art is informed by my tumultuous relationship with the South, the beauty and the horror. It is complex and nuanced and cannot be represented by the donning of a Stetson, and the stomping of a boot. This is not how I signify my Southerness. Like many other artists of color, I am still wrestling my humanity from the maw of racism. I am still grappling to live a country that breaks into open terror when we tell them that Black Lives Matter.
For these reasons I am growing increasingly weary of the appropriation and de-fanging of Southern culture to make White consumers more comfortable with their own history.
You have not earned that cool iced tea on a hot summer day. When you attempt to glamorize and brand the American past to make yourself comfortable with your history you are acting dishonestly. There is still darkness left to mine here. We aren’t clear of our past, in fact our present political woes are patterned on it. It is here for us to reflect upon in our music.
Nina Simone said that it is the artist’s duty to represent the times in which we are living.
Until Americana is ready to come clean about where we are, where we’ve been and champion music that represents a reality beyond the infantilized South much needed to keep the White consumer spending, I will not sit down at your table.
I am not your negro.
Warm Regards,
Adia Victoria
Adia Victoria’s logic feels flawed here in many respects. I completely respect her desire to not be labeled something she feels does not represent her, or that even may represent something she is opposed to. And as a Caucasian I will always fall at least one degree short from understanding her perspective. But as many individuals within the Americana community have pointed out, nobody is attempting to label Adia Victoria or anyone else Americana that doesn’t want to be.
If or when someone from the Americana community reaches out to an artist, whether that’s an employee of the Americana Music Association to participate in an official function, or a label or manager that happens to work under the auspices of the greater Americana community, it shouldn’t be taken as a threat, but as an attempt at inclusion, or simply as the offer of an opportunity. If that outreach is met with rejection, then the interaction can cease at that point. Nonetheless, if Adia Victoria’s music is easy to label in the Americana realm, which she herself acknowledges it is, then this labeling may be done just in a matter of convenience to explain the music to someone who is not familiar with it, not as an attempt to pigeon hole, or degrade, or especially to make one their “negro.”
Where would we be in America if Jackie Robinson said he did not want to play for white baseball crowds, or Joe Lewis for white boxing audiences? Tribalism can be a two way street, and if we refuse to interact with someone based on race, whether they be music fans or otherwise, we are refusing to let the racial barriers crumble through the long moral arc that is slowly degrading human racism at its core. If succumbing to being called Americana or playing to predominately white audiences makes a certain performer Americana’s “negro,” then does that mean the Mavis Staples and Keb Mo are Uncle Toms?
Some noticed that Adia Victoria had promoted her post on Americana via social network, making them wonder if her hard line stance against Americana was more about self-promotion, though perhaps any promotional dollars were spent in an effort to equalize the reach of Americana journalists writing in dissent to her opinion. So often the issue of race becomes demonstrative so quickly, it devolves into shouts and accusations with the wisdom individuals are trying to share with each other being lost.
But one point Adia Victoria broaches, and deserves credit for highlighting, is how the problem with the color of Americana is not just about who is on the stage, but who is in the crowd. Americana has made incredible strides to be inclusive to minority performers beyond simple tokenism, and probably more than Adia Victoria is giving them credit for. But the crowds and audiences in Americana—whether they be at an official Americana function or just your average weekend gig for an Americana artist somewhere in America—remain incredibly white, and generally affluent, liberal, and usually a little older. This is the white gaze that doesn’t just make a performer like Adia Victoria perhaps feel uncomfortable on stage, but even a country music journalist who notices the same thing—white audiences starring at black performers—and gets the sense there is just something a little bit unclean in this phenomenon.
Americana has integrated its stages, and that’s a big and very important and difficult step in the process of being inclusive to roots fans of all persuasions. But just because you’re being inclusive, doesn’t mean you’re being inviting.
Once again, this is not a problem that you can lump blame upon Americana as if they’re purposely excluding elements of diversity in their crowds. By being so inclusive to all roots artists, they’re hoping the diversity of the audience follows. The problem however is the same problem all roots elements are experiencing in the proliferation of hip-hip throughout American culture.
As Questlove—the famous frontman for The Roots—said in 2014 in an essay about how hip-hop had failed black America,
Hip-hop has taken over black music. Look at the music charts, or think of as many pop artists as you can, and see how many of the black ones aren’t part of hip-hop…It wasn’t always that way. Back in the late ’80s, when I graduated high school, you could count the number of black musical artists that weren’t in hip-hop on two hands maybe. You had folksingers like Tracy Chapman, rock bands like Living Colour, pop acts like Lionel Richie, many kinds of soul singers and that doesn’t even contend with megastars like Michael Jackson and Prince, who thwarted any easy categorization. Hip-hop was plenty present…but it was just a piece of the pie.
It is hard to attract diverse crowds to roots and Americana shows because hip-hop has monopolized American culture to the point where many people of color, especially young people, just don’t identify with roots music culture anymore. Hip-hop has also infiltrated white America, especially when it comes to younger listeners. This isn’t a criticism of hip-hop necessarily, but its prevalence has created a challenge for roots music in its effort to diversify its audiences. Diversifying the stage is one thing because it comes down to simple roster decisions on the promotional side, but diversifying the crowd takes autonomous participation by demographics that in many cases are looking elsewhere for their musical entertainment.
Perhaps there could be more outreach to schools with roots and Americana music, or programs to expand appreciation of the music to the intercity, or possibly through homages to the Church. Some of these things are already occurring. With the heavy role of Gospel, blues, the Muscle Shoals sound, Motown, and old school rock and roll in the Americana sound, there must be communities that would be open to Americana. But all of this music is under assault from a myriad of forces in culture. That was the whole reason roots performers decided to band together to form Americana in the first place.
This is a very complex problem and it’s going to take dialogue and the sharing of ideas to solve, not exclusionary attitudes and accusations. And even with dialogue, it will be an extremely difficult issue to overcome because Americana is a minority in music itself, even if it has been vastly growing over the last few years. To continue that growth, Americana will have to be more inclusive to a wider demographic, which can present its own challenges when the desire is to grow sustainably instead of trying to be all things to all people like much of mainstream music.
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While at AmericanaFest last September, I attended an event called the Gospel Brunch at Nashville’s City Winery venue. It is the annual, informal end to the AmericanaFest festivities for the week, hosted by independent record label Thirty Tigers. The emcee for the event was Thirty Tigers owner Dave Macias, who actually studied at Nashville’s predominately and historically black college Tennessee State University—a member school of the Thurgood Marshall College Fund.
This event isn’t just Gospel in name. The artists mostly perform Gospel songs, and the McCrary Sisters were in attendance performing as part of the house band, just as they were for the 2016 Americana Music Awards. Dave Macias of Thirty Tigers used the event to introduce CeCe Winans—the best-selling female Gospel singer of all time—as a new artist on the label who will be releasing her first album in nine years called Let Them Fall in Love on February 3rd.
Attending the Gospel Brunch, along with many other Americana events throughout the week, it was easy to see that the effort at diversity by Americana was not just for show or based on guilt, but was driven by an underlying imperative throughout the community to represent all aspects of American roots music, including elements that grew out of black communities, Latin communities, and other minority influences.
One of the artists at the City Winery Gospel Brunch was a throwback country artist named Luke Bell. In what seemed like a strange move, when Luke Bell got to the function, he paid a Lyft driver to deliver three black kids from his neighborhood to the brunch. Luke Bell didn’t do this to directly help promote diversity at the event necessarily. He did it because he thought the kids would get a kick out of it.
While the event was going on and and after Luke Bell had played, I was in the upper balcony and I looked down through a window to see Luke Bell, his friend and fellow musician Pat Reedy, and the three neighborhood kids hanging out in the part of the City Winery where they actually make the wine—taking a tour of the inner workings of the facility (see below).
Luke Bell wasn’t looking to solve the whole “white gaze” conundrum in Americana. He wasn’t participating in an intellectual exercise. He was just being neighborly. But his gesture shows how we can solve these racial divisions in music. It takes people reaching out to others, and then it takes others being receptive to that outreach and going into environs that they may not be particularly familiar or comfortable with, to break down these barriers of perspective that are keeping everyone from appreciating music that is meant for everyone, regardless of race, age, political affiliation, or any other superficial designation that only works to push us apart from our shared humanity.
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Pat Reedy (white cowboy hat), Luke Bell (green shirt), and three kids from Luke Bell’s neighborhood (one wearing Luke Bell’s black cowboy hat), taking a tour of the City Winery’s operations during the Thirty Tigers Gospel Brunch, September 2016.
Warthog
January 20, 2017 @ 9:39 am
Gteat article, Trigger. You do a great job of explaining your view and backing it up. I just hope all thay you said doesn’t somehow get twisted and used against you.
Trigger
January 20, 2017 @ 3:44 pm
Well, someone has to tackle tough issues and sometimes take unpopular stances, and without any underwriters, co-owners, or editors, it often falls to me. I expect the words to get twisted, but that’s no excuse to not say them if you believe in them.
Charlie
January 20, 2017 @ 10:16 am
I think we are going to hear the echoes of racism reverberate a good while longer before they finally decay away.
Corncaster
January 20, 2017 @ 10:32 am
“I am not your negro.”
Ms. Victoria, I have news for you: I am not your massa.
Stop trying to put me in the position of your racist overlord. I know how doing so helps race hustlers, but turning every gracious inclusion into an act of bad faith only perpetuates and strengthens divisions where they need be none. It’s also narcissistic because it flattens every act into your own idea of it, which makes everything and everyone around you a reductive version of itself. This is simply destructive, and destructive also of what is best in yourself, and of what you yourself demand of others: understanding, empathy, and good will.
It is long past time that Americans all understand together that “excellence,” and even the very interest in excellence, has no color.
Jack Williams
January 20, 2017 @ 10:58 am
I don’t know that Adia Victoria has a problem having white people in her audience. She seems to have it in for a certain type of white crowd, though. The people she describes sounds like we might call hipsters or maybe the NPR Americana crowd. The kind that congratulate themselves on their good taste in music and proper social views that might use someone like Ms. Victoria as a their black friend (“the kind of black person we like!”), but I suspect she thinks of such people as being quite shallow.
Corncaster
January 20, 2017 @ 11:10 am
Well, I agree that virtue signalling (ugh!) is certainly part of some audiences, but even there, it’s not all one thing.
Jack Williams
January 20, 2017 @ 11:41 am
True. I for one was taken aback by her notion that for Americana fans, it wasn’t really about the music and more akin to a piece of fashionable clothing to put on. I know that does not describe me, although it may describe some. For those artists that I like that are tagged with the Americana label, that’s the roots rock music that I love went to and so I followed it.
Fat Freddy's Cat
January 20, 2017 @ 11:01 am
I wonder which Americana music she’s listening to. Americana artists and fans aren’t just a bunch of shitkickers. The complexity and nuance in music is what we love, and it’s what we feel is missing from mainstream country music.
Corncaster
January 20, 2017 @ 11:14 am
Don’t you just love the straw-manning. “They’re just shallow dumbasses — not like the complicated, beautiful, nuanced, intellectual me.” The irony is hilarious, if she would just perceive it.
That said, she would probably be wise to let down her hair now and then and dance to some Hank Jr.
Jack Williams
January 20, 2017 @ 11:42 am
Maybe not Hank Jr.
Trigger
January 20, 2017 @ 3:47 pm
Funny thing is, the McCrary Sisters are all over that new Hank Jr. album. Not a whole lot else going for it though.
Jack Williams
January 20, 2017 @ 6:21 pm
Well, that’s cool. I read your review on it and didn’t pursue that one.
RZ94
January 20, 2017 @ 11:25 am
I think I’m the only conservative to ever attend Americanafest. I enjoyed the gospel brunch a lot and a lot of the bluegrass type stuff that week.
Stringbuzz
January 20, 2017 @ 11:46 am
Been to a couple blues fests where majority of the entertainers were black, but the crowd mostly white.
It is kinda weird.
Jack Williams
January 20, 2017 @ 12:11 pm
Same here. All east coast. Also, shows by Buddy Guy, B.B. King, Taj Mahal, Robert Cray and Shemekia Copeland. Not just mostly white. Virtually all white. Maybe a black person here and there.
Made a blues pilgrimage to Chicago once with two of my siblings. It was different there. Maybe not 50-50, but a good number of black folks in the crowds.
Corncaster
January 20, 2017 @ 1:39 pm
I’ve heard guys discuss this. They said why should we go, we invented that sh*t a long time ago, then we invented jazz, r&b, hip hop… we don’t do old, we invent the next thing! Let the white dudes follow.” etc
Bill Weiler
January 20, 2017 @ 6:52 pm
Blues has been changing from black to white audiences since the1970’s. Saw this with the festival scene over several decades. As the black audience that grew up listening to the blues aged, they were not being replaced with young black fans. I have been to a couple of clubs in rural mississippi where I was one of a very few white faces, but this is a rare exception. I am old enough to have seen some of the first and many of the second generation bluesmen before they passed.
Zues
January 23, 2017 @ 9:18 pm
It’s only weird because you make it weird. Stop it. Good music is good music. Not all music is made for everybody. I’m a white fella and shocker, I hate Dave Matthews. Even though I’m in his demographic. How’s that work? Because that stuff ain’t made for me, regardless of my age or skin color. I like the music I like because it stirs something in my soul and or taps my toe. When did this music, that has done so much to break down walls and bring us together over the last 100 years, change and suddenly become so devisive?
Jack Williams
January 24, 2017 @ 6:43 am
It’s not weird that you’re a blues fan. I’m a blues fan. I’m also a country music fan, even though I’m not remotely from the country or even the South. What is weird or at least ironic is that a form of music that was birthed out of black suffering in the American South has an audience today that is overwhelmingly white.
Bertox
January 20, 2017 @ 11:58 am
The answer was, is, and always will be love. Martin Luther King Jr said it himself, as did Jesus. You know what happened to those guys. Because people don’t want the truth. They say they do, but secretly they hate it. Adia Victoria is no different. She didn’t say, “I hate white people.” She didn’t need to. The message was loud and clear. Excellent article, Trigger.
Bertox
January 20, 2017 @ 12:09 pm
I forgot to mention that I thought she really did have some valid points. I just think that at the end of the day, she is more a part of the problem instead of the solution
Trigger
January 20, 2017 @ 3:52 pm
I think it’s all important for us to attempt to learn from Adia’s perspective. Whether any of us feel it’s right or wrong, it is a perspective the certain people hold, and we should work to find the wisdom from it.
Corncaster
January 20, 2017 @ 6:13 pm
The wisdom is in her feeling of dignity. Unfortunately, that seems to be the limit of the wisdom she expressed.
Jacob
January 20, 2017 @ 12:34 pm
Wow! That has to be the best article you’ve written, poignant and perfectly timed. Very professional. I am not going to sully this page with any opinion on the matter except I have a great deal of respect for Luke Bell. Hope this gets spread around.
Jack Williams
January 20, 2017 @ 1:05 pm
A few concert stories, al at the Birchmere in Alexandria, VA
My wife and I saw Los Lobos a couple of years ago. We were seated with a retired couple who like to occasionally go to music shows, not necessarily knowing anything about who they were seeing. They were surprised that there really weren’t any Latinos in the audience. Nope. Just white folks. Being that I’d seen them numerous times before, it was no surprise to me.
I saw Billy Joe Shaver in June 2015. A biracial couple sat across from me at one of the long tables up front. The man was black and the woman was white. I just assumed she was the Billy Joe fan. Nope. It was him. I guess my assuming was what Louis CK would call “mild racism.” 😉 Anyway, I had a great conversation with him on shows we’d seen and artists we both liked. Basically, he was a roots music fan like me.
I saw Keb Mo in the ’90s. He looks off to the side of the stage, sees a black man and says “Soul brother! It was getting a little lonely up here.”
Lee
January 20, 2017 @ 1:41 pm
My first thought while reading this excellent article was, “Who the hell is that?” After a little YouTube research, I have to say it’s a “Howlin’ Shame” she feels that way. She asks, “Who decides what is ‘true’ and ‘authentic’ in American music?” The answer is pretty simple: You, if you join the conversation.. If the Americana folks were telling her to change her sound and image to attract a demographic they are targeting, that would be a problem. Having an emerging genre attempting to embrace and include you and your art exactly as you are seems like a win. Maybe she got a letter from the Big Machine folks claiming they were Americana?
At the end of the day, I like her music. I hope she doesn’t feel she needs to keep throwing up imaginary obstacles to overcome in order to gain popularity.
hoptowntiger94
January 20, 2017 @ 3:09 pm
Wow! A lot to unpack here.
The phenomenon of whitewashing audiences is not exclusive to the Americana genre. In recent years, there are many examples of R&B artists who crossover into the indie genre after touring the primarily white festival circuit and lost their African American constituency.
I couldn’t believe how white the turnout was for Sharon Jones & the Dap-Kings concert I attended in 2010 (in Detroit!). This occurred after she played the Bonnaroos of the country in the summer of 09 and the white indie (hipster if you may) crowd jumped on her bandwagon. Also, at this time a lot of her music was being used to promote primarily white products in commercials. There’s a stigma within the African American community when an artist caters to the white crowd. I call it the iPhone headphone syndrome. For the longest time, those headphones (and iPhone products and downloading) were disjointed with African American culture.
Another R&B artist whose audience is shockingly white is Black Joe Lewis.
Jack Williams
January 20, 2017 @ 6:26 pm
It seems to be that if it’s more classic soul/R&B, it’s going to be predominantly white folks in the crowd. I’mguessing it’s that way at Barrence Whitfield shows. I haven’t seen her yet, but I believe that’s the case for Bettye Lavette, too.
Kevin Smith
January 23, 2017 @ 9:27 am
Saw Barrence a year ago at a small uppity supper club kinda place where wealthy older white folks drink cocktails, sit at little tables and clap very politely, and don’t talk at all during the show. Very NPR kinda folks. Barrence was horrified. He asked from the stage if the management would mind if half the tables could be moved out so people could dance. It happened! Tables moved, and about a third of us ran out and proceeded to jump around like you know, awkward white folks who think they can dance but cant. We totally annoyed the other 2/3 of the crowd who complained we were blocking their view! What a fun night it was.
DJ
January 20, 2017 @ 4:00 pm
Another excellent piece of writing Trigger.
It seems the lady needs a dose of reality and humility, though I do agree with a couple of things she stated like; who decides the genre? I have to agree with her and I think the artist should, IF a label has to be assigned.
I listen to someone based on MY perceptions, wants and desires, not a label. Like I’ve said, I don’t like rap, but, I like Kid Rock, and I like R&B and Blues and old RnR, but my preference in music is mostly Country, like it’s been until this latest bro country shit whatever that means. What I despise is someone pissing down my neck and telling me it’s raining no matter how they dress or vote which is what mislabeling has come to by idiots whose prime motivator is the almighty dollar, and it may be this lady believes the label she doesn’t like might somehow dissuade those she wants to appeal to, which obviously isn’t the NPR crowd.
Trigger, I can’t help but wonder if you’re ever confronted,or countered by those you write about.
I’d love to see a back and forth. They’d most likely learn that old axiom; don’t argue with someone who buys their ink by the barrel. I doubt there are many who can hold a candle to your talent. You’re good and, again, I hope you get the recognition you earn.
Trigger
January 21, 2017 @ 11:11 am
Oh, I’ve had some pretty high-profile back and forths over the years. I’m never going to broach a subject unless I feel like the facts or the superior argument is on my side, and the fact that so many have disagreed with me over the years informs how I approach subjects such as this. So far the only response I have seen from Adia Victoria on the subject is her responding with a blow off meme on Twitter.
Chris
January 20, 2017 @ 7:23 pm
I like it when I see broader participation in country, rock and folk and Amercana music.
It’s too bad seeing any artist with a closed mind.
I have been a NASCAR fan for many decades now, and it encourages me to see blacks and other minorities in the audience.
NASCAR has a developmental driver program, and Eric Saurez, who is from Mexico, actually won the Xfinity series.
There is also a good black driver who came close to winning a few races this year.
I certainly pull for him and I think many other fans do as well.
These things take time.
But everyone needs to keep an open mind and heart.
Lastly, I sure don’t look to MTV as a source for wisdom or moral authority.
Good article Trig.
Christian H.
January 20, 2017 @ 8:30 pm
This is an excellent work of journalism, Trigger. The article is well organized, thoughtful, thought provoking and very well written. I am a bit surprised by some of the comments criticizing Adia Victoria. I did not perceive any criticism in your article. My interpretation was that you used her Facebook post to make a point about the need for dialogue and understanding on all sides of an issue. I do feel compelled, however, to listen to her music. Whether I agree with all she implies or not, she wrote her post with an eloquent passion. I imagine she has the ability to convey that passion in her art as well.
Jack Williams
January 21, 2017 @ 7:09 am
I do feel compelled, however, to listen to her music. Whether I agree with all she implies or not, she wrote her post with an eloquent passion. I imagine she has the ability to convey that passion in her art as well.
I came around to that particular view, but it took a while. I had to get past what I thought was her unfair lashing out at Havighurst and the broad brush she used to, in my opinion, unfairly castigate a community that I feel a part of. She made it seem like Havighurst’s response was all about her, when it was overwhelmingly about Aaron’s hit piece. Havighurst responded to her on Facebook that he appreciated her perspective and that his real problem was with Aaron. She responded to him in a friendly, respectful way whereas she was combative with other commenters who I’d say fell into the “liberal white mansplaining” category and had it coming. So I think this episode seemed to inspire her to plant her flag, as it were. I respect and have tried to understand her overall perspective. Some of the specifics of what she says about the Americana community I can’t get on board with, but whatever.
Christian H
January 21, 2017 @ 11:40 am
Hey Jack,
Agree with you. I had the same reaction to the Facebook post. Fortunately, we have a well written discourse framed up nicely in Trigger’s article. Had I only read the post, I would have likely had a more knee jerk reaction, as I fit pretty squarely into the target demographic: middle aged, white, educated, male, Americana/Country fan with boots and Stetsons living with a family in a comfortable suburb…
So I certainly do not agree with all her comments, but all voices need to be heard and the issues, as uncomfortable as they may be, need to be addressed in a respectful, open minded environment. From my perspective, Trigger works hard to create that forum (although he’s regularly attacked for it).
Bear
January 21, 2017 @ 5:26 am
I have always been perplexed as to why the mainstream black music community gave up on Jazz and Blues, two genres that they more or less helped define a create. The English rock cats of the 60s basically rescued the blues as a genre only to have ignored by the very people who laid the ground work. I go to jazz and blues shows now and there are some black audiences, at least in my area, but they are older. Even so it is mostly white. Esperanza Spalding won best new artist but that was just met with cries over Justin Bieber losing to a “nobody” not a resurgence in jazz.
Even the film La La Land with it’s affection for jazz had to have a white lead as the main jazz player because supposedly black audiences don’t care about jazz. And of course to sell to a white audience you don’t want a black lead in your musical romance about jazz and Hollywood. And funny enough the audience within the film at the jazz club was older, despite the leads being young. Why not have a mix of ages, sells jazz to younguns. And in even greater Irony John Legend plays a musicians who ditches the roots of jazz like a bro-country act to attract an younger crowd.
Hip-hop is great but why did they let just overrun everything. Is it because it is easy to produce. Easy to replicate and formulate on an assembly line because I really can’t tell one hip-hop artist from another these days just like with bro-country?
And if that isn’t baffling enough while America does has some “smooth jazz” outlets, it is Japan that is at the forefront of true “roots” jazz music!
Also the dominance of hip-hop has infiltrated all genres to some degree with music done by machine (no need to pay those pricey studio musicians). When was the last time the rock charts really had any serious rocker worth their salt. When was the last time you saw a true rock song on the hot 100 not some watered down eye candy wearing a cute hoodie and holding a guitar. And why is it we have not seen more black guitarists since the likes of Jimmy Hendrix putting out rock music. Prince and Lenny Kravitz excepted but I know Lenny has a white audience. Princes just had an audience.
I wonder if maybe it is because whites started doing jazz and blues too so the black left to find something new they could claim as solely theirs, something even more radical and upsetting to white than Duke Ellington’s “jungle music”.
Anyway, sorry for being all over the maps but this REALLY baffles me.
Cool Lester Smooth
January 22, 2017 @ 2:33 pm
After creating jazz and the blues, they created soul, then they created rock and roll, then they created R&B, then they created Motown, then they created hip hop.
And by the time they created hip hop, they had learned enough from the previous several genres of music that had been co-opted by white folks after being created by black artists, and retained ownership of the music they were creating.
Which is awesome for the artists, but has lead to a sort of stagnation over the last 15 years or so, as the labels have become less nakedly exploitative, haha.
Mike Blackwell
January 21, 2017 @ 9:09 am
You’ve written an excellent piece that touches on some tough realities in both the music industry and our culture at large. Not to over romanticize the past, but go look at the top selling songs of 1972. The diversity and quality jump off the page. That was a crossroads in American cultural history when “all of the above” was a common answer. Americana, as much as I hate that name, is the inheritor of that vibe. I see little outside of Americana that I see which is not specialized and compartmentalized.
Adia Victoria makes a smart and passionate case. Where outside of Americana, though, is her unique style going to be embraced, celebrated and sold? I don’t agree with you that hip-hop has monopolized American culture. Mass produced hip-hop, along with mainstream pop and pop/bro-country operate more like a cartel, controlling the vast majority of the money and audience. In that world, Americana becomes the “none of the above” choice that embraces that same 1972 mindset. Yes, it would be wonderful to see more diverse audiences, and Luke Bell deserves credit for leading by example with his neighborly efforts. Hats off to him. Keep spreading the good word, Trigger, and the audiences will follow.
Trigger
January 21, 2017 @ 11:18 am
The undefinable nature of “Americana” has always been one of its biggest challenges. And though I think over time that challenge has become less and less important, it plays a factor in topics like this, because the definition by many is so arbitrary.
jessie with the long hair
January 21, 2017 @ 9:28 am
After reading Victoria’s comments about who decides what is Americana, I realized that the big underlying problem is Americana isn’t a genre, it’s a label for anything that doesn’t fit easily into the labels we are sold. The first few months of the new Americana station in Nashville has proven that. They don’t really have an identity except that we are a hodge podge of anything that the other stations won’t play.
As far as Victoria not wanting to be the “hey I’ve got a black friend” of Americana, that’s cool if she wants to play it that way. I would tell her to do her art and not give a fuck about what other people say, even if they love her. If she wants to turn away business, let her. I wonder how Muddy Waters and other blues musicians felt when their dying genre (blues) was picked up first by white kids from England and then white kids from America. I think they appreciated being appreciated again. Muddy even went so far as to record an acoustic album to fit into the “folk” label that had become popular.
I can’t pretend to understand how it feels to be a racial minority. But I do know what it feels like to be a minority. I have one question: What if Eminem or Macklemore wrote this letter about Black fans and the Hip Hop genre? Would everyone then start yelling RACISM?
Jeffrey Scott
January 21, 2017 @ 10:23 am
I like Red Dirt/ Americana for the talent, music, and abilities of the artists performing it. I would take a moment to point out to Victoria that our shared culture shapes our love for the music. And it is what brings us to the show for the artist to perform. Pointing out the color of our skins as some sort of political game isn’t bringing us together, it is what keeps us apart.
Waymore38
January 21, 2017 @ 11:14 am
Sounds like to me she wants her cake and eat it too. She wants to be diverse, but doesn’t want to play in a genre that is opening its arms for her. She also is alienating any potential “white” fans she might have attracted in the future.
someguy
January 21, 2017 @ 9:50 pm
Ah, yes, Americana, the home of people like Jason Isbell & Steve Earle, who romanticize the Old South…
Oh, wait. Thats pure horseshit.
Kevin Smith
January 22, 2017 @ 12:41 pm
I’m getting to the point where I almost have a disdain for the americana category. I love many of the artists who are lumped in, but this whole wealthy, white, NPR , politically correct phenomenon is irritating. I’m with Dale Watson, they are hypocritical and completely ignore many genres that are extremely American. Western Swing, honky Tonk and Rockabilly. Can anyone really define Americana? And blues…isn’t that where so called roots music came from? Yeah, Americana is a very confusing category for sure. As to race, I don’t choose music based on racial inclusion, I like music for music’s sake. Doesn’t matter a person’s ethnic background to me. Play good music, I listen. Just saw Ray Benson and dale watson. Ray is a Jewish guy from Philly who just happens to make glorious western swING and country music. He’s a national treasure, who cares what his racial origins are.
The Senator
January 23, 2017 @ 2:17 pm
I saw Dale and Ray recently as well, and it was a good time. Those two put on quite the enjoyable show, and the banter was as good as the music. Those two are indeed national treasures, and Ray carries on the traditions of Bob Wills like a true preservationist without getting all stuffy and musty in the execution.
As for the Americana thing, I don’t even recognize the category, myself. Folk, Country, Blues, Gospel, Rock, Soul and R&B, all have large sections in my library. I figure anything labeled Americana can fit well enough into one of those just as well. It’s a nebulous category at best, and at worst, it’s completely undefinable, and lumps a lot of disparate elements together that don’t belong in the same listing.
I’ve said here a number of times before that I find a great deal of value in labels, but to me, Americana is more a marketing gimmick than a worthwhile label to use.
Kevin Smith
January 22, 2017 @ 6:21 pm
I didn’t finish my point. To most of us music fans, we don’t make musical decisions based on how inclusive or not inclusive a genre is. We like music on its own merits. As for Adia, if she wants to snub Americana, then so be it. If she already has an audience , yay for her and I wish her the best. And part of me gets her point, she doesn’t see herself fitting in Americana, she feels like they are only interested in her for her skin color and their desperate need to be PC. Probably not true but I kinda get her perspective. That said, Americana fans spend money on music and being categorized in that genre could be a financial boost for an artist, so maybe she should consider that. To each their own.
Sean
January 23, 2017 @ 8:33 am
I think the underlying issue is we often try to categorize humans (white, black, male, female, binary) and music (Americana, country, bro-country, heavy metal, doom metal, funeral doom) and don’t just take things at face value. There’s good music and bad music and it’s up to the individual to decide.
If the current election taught us anything it’s that folks are tired of PC culture and tired of labels. The majority of folks in this country are not racists and couldn’t care less the color of ones skin. The majority of folks who enjoy music also don’t care the gender or race of the musician. The more we keep talking about it and bringing race into EVERYTHING, the worse it will become.
Diversity should be about diversity of thought and musical taste and not about the color of ones skin.
Kevin Smith
January 23, 2017 @ 8:58 am
Well said. You are spot on with your take on music. There are some folks out there that are incapable of letting this race, gender stuff go. It’s like their brain is wired to obsess over these matters and they end up off the rails full of hate and criticism and seemingly implacable in their stance. And no matter what you do, there’s still a problem in their mind. Individuality, creative freedom and ability to make music and art whatever your style is something to be happy about.
Funeral Doom? I don’t even wanna know, so I won’t ask. Didn’t Hank III dabble with that so called Doom thing for a hot minute? I heard about a minute of his Cattle Core album and got some laughs.
Whiskey_Pete
January 23, 2017 @ 9:40 am
The difficult task of translating America’s diversity from the NBA court to the crowd/fans. We need more diversity in the NBA!
Juke
January 24, 2017 @ 4:05 pm
Diversity is unnatural. That’s why it always brings problems.
We evolved for small tribal bonds & to protect our individual tribal interests. It’s only since the 1960’s that we pretend otherwise.
No free rides in nature…