There is No “Double Standard” to Elle King Criticism
At the risk of giving this story more oxygen then it deserves, a blatant misnomer has become a prevailing thought in certain circles, and deserves to be addressed with some important historical context and perspective.
As you probably heard, Elle King stirred quite a bit of controversy on Friday, January 19th during a Dolly Parton tribute on the Grand Ole Opry. She was clearly drunk, and admitted as much on stage before slurring and hard cussing her way through her performance as the family friendly crowd looked on in shock, and the FCC started ringing up infractions against the Opry’s radio partner, WSM.
But almost immediately as the news spread and outlets started reporting on King’s drunken performance, some came forward to claim that the criticism Elle King was receiving constituted a double standard compared to the kind of criticism a man would receive in the same scenario.
Though she is far from the only one, Dolly Parton’s sister and fellow performer Stella Parton said,
“I didn’t see nor hear the Grand Ole Opry birthday tribute to my big sister Dolly over the weekend. But some lil girl by the name of Elle King apparently cussed and insulted some of Dolly’s fans by not knowing a song. She did admit to being “hammered” her word not mine … But let me just say this, it wouldn’t be the first time a Hillbilly went on the stage of the Opry “hammered” but I guess it’s ok if you’re a male but good lord don’t ever let a girl behave that way folks! Double fucking standard if ya ask me. So the Opry is apologizing! Lol”
Stella Parton didn’t fully defend Elle King. Parton also criticized her for being ill-prepared and not showing respect for the Opry, but held fast to the opinion the Ell King criticism was a double standard.
Since we’re comparing apples to oranges on here. I’m still stewing and thinking bout how any lil spoiled brat with an opportunity to sing on the Opry to pay tribute to a legendary songwriter like Dolly Parton would just piss on the star circle on the stage. Taylor Swift wouldn’t … There’s many different ways for a female singer to make a name for herself like maybe doing your damn homework … For every singer, country or otherwise who has ever graced that stage and every fan who has ever sat in that audience we consider it a sacred space and a devine opportunity … Well, if ya think it works in Country Music for a female to get attention, about five minutes is it! . There’s a BIG double standard between men and women in entertainment and I’ve never seen it do men or women any good to disrespect an audience.
Stella Parton has been the most public and outspoken about it, but many others agree that if it was a man who had turned in a drunken performance at the Grand Ole Opry, we wouldn’t be making near as much of a fuss about it. Some have gone as far to assert that Elle King is the real victim here.
Are there double standards in entertainment for women, and in country music specifically? Of course there are. Women are judged much more on appearance compared to their male counterparts. They’re held to a greater code of conduct, and judged more harshly if they’re found to have be guilty of some impropriety. And this says nothing about how much harder it is for a woman in country music to launch a career, get signed to a label, get a song on the radio, and other benefits that often fall in the lap of their male counterparts.
But when it comes to the Grand Ole Opry and Elle King’s drunken performance specifically, to say she is being held to a double standard compared to male performers is categorically false from a very clear historical perspective. It also sets a bad precedent of calling out double standards when they don’t exist.
Hank Williams, The King of Country Music, was kicked out of the Grand Ole Opry in 1952, and not for drunken performances on stage, but for simply showing up to rehearsals inebriated, or not showing up to rehearsals at all. Being kicked out of the Opry broke Hank’s heart, and facilitated his downward spiral that resulted in his overdose death in the back of his powder blue Cadillac on New years Day, 1953.
For going on 20 years, the heirs of Hank Williams and now over 62,000 signatories have been attempting to get Hank Williams reinstated back into the Grand Ole Opry to no avail. Over this time, these Hank Williams fans have been told that you can’t make a dead guy a Grand Ole Opry member. But on October 14th, 2023, this is exactly what the Grand Ole Opry did by making Keith Whitley a posthumous member.
But Hank Williams is far from the only one who got sideways with the Grand Ole Opry. In 1965 shortly after Johnny Cash’s Opry debut, he showed up on stage drunk, and notoriously smashed out the footlights at the front of the stage with the microphone stand. The Opry kicked Cash out of the institution and banned him indefinitely, though he was able to return to the stage by 1968.
Hank Williams and Johnny Cash were not two pop stars who migrated to country later in their careers. They were Mt. Rushmore titans of the genre. And despite this, when they showed up drunk at the Opry, they were shown the door. They weren’t the only ones.
Jerry Lee Lewis made his Grand Ole Opry debut on January 20th, 1973 in one of the most notorious moments in Opry history. At one point, Jerry Lee Lewis stuck his face into the microphone and proclaimed unabashedly, “Let me tell ya something about Jerry Lee Lewis, ladies and gentlemen: I am a rock and rollin’, country-and-western, rhythm and blues-singin’ motherf—-!” Similar to Cash and Hank, Jerry Lee Lewis was banned from performing on the Opry stage.
Dierks Bentley was banned from the Grand Ole Opry, and he wasn’t even drunk, and never even took the stage. Bentley was working for TNN at the time, which was located on the Opryland grounds. Whenever Dierks had a chance, he would sneak behind stage to chat with the performers. When General Manager Pete Fisher caught Dierks backstage one too many times, he banned Bentley from the premises. The ban was lifted once Bentley became a star in his own right.
The Opry bans haven’t solely affected men though. On December 8th, 1973, Skeeter Davis took the Opry stage and spoke about her disdain for seeing members of the organization Christ Is the Answer Crusade arrested at a local shopping center, criticizing Nashville Police before performing the song “Amazing Grace.” For this very minor infraction, Davis had her membership revoked and was banned. She was reinstated later in 1974.
Neko Case was banned from the Opry in 2001. She was playing the Opry’s “Plaza Party” outside in July. After her requests for water went unanswered, she started suffering from heat exhaustion. To cool down, she took her top off. She still had her bra on underneath, but the indecent exposure had the Opry crying foul.
Holly Dunn was expunged from Opry membership for no apparent reason at all, though lack of regular performances was cited, despite the fact that more prominent stars with less performances were kept on the roster.
The Grand Ole Opry has a long history of punitive punishments against performers, and a restrictive attitude against outsiders. This is a history that long time managers such as Pete Fisher kept going well into the modern era. But current Opry head Dan Rogers seems to have worked hard to distance the storied institution from such things, while trying to keep the reverence for the Opry alive.
Nobody behind the movement to reinstate Hank Williams into the Grand Ole Opry claims that Hank’s behavior didn’t warrant the Opry’s decision at the time to remove him as a member. The thought is that Hank never had the opportunity to redeem himself. The difference here is that Elle King does. Nobody is trying to “cancel” Elle King for her behavior. The Opry has made no formal proclamations about if she will be invited back to perform, or not. Ironically, The Opry has formally apologized to the public for the profanity and the performance. Yet so far, Elle King hasn’t.
It is a privilege to play the Grand Ole Opry, and to participate in something as high profile as a tribute to Dolly Parton, and that’s a privilege that was extended to Elle King over other women who are native to country music. Lauren Alaina—a Grand Ole Opry member—was also supposed to perform during the Dolly Parton tribute. But due to inclement weather, she did not make it.
Elle King has also been given big opportunities on country music award shows, and also hosted the major “Nashville Big Bash” New Year’s Eve television special on CBS, which also had some concluding she was heavily inebriated. Again, these opportunities could have gone to women native to country music. Sure, double standards most certainly still persist in country music for women. But this is all the more reason to support the women of country music first.
As academic/activist Amanda Marie Martinez states, “I’ve never respected Elle King & her chance to make an easy transition to country music (CMAs/ACMs, hosting opportunities). She has a fake Southern accent, is a product of industry nepotism, & country’s racial double standards. I hope she gets help, but she must face consequences.”
What consequences should Elle King face? All Saving Country Music has asked for is a simple apology. We shouldn’t get so bent out of shape over this situation that we overlook the human element to this story. Elle King may need help with her issues with alcohol, and she should be extended that grace. The Opry’s history of kicking people out, cutting all ties, or sometimes not letting folks in should be just that: history.
Pushing the Grand Ole Opry aside, would people be proclaiming similar behavior was “badass” or “Outlaw” if a man was doing it? In this instance, probably not. Toby Keith, Hank Williams Jr., and scores of other performers have been criticized for drunk performances over the years. Saving Country Music has called out Toby Keith Evan Felker of the Turnpike Troubadours, Pat Green, and others specifically.
People forget that the George Jones nickname “No Show Jones” was not a term of endearment. He was roundly criticized for years for his inconsistency and behavior. It was only after his sobriety that fans looked back upon The Possum’s behavior with humor and forgiveness.
This is also not about “gatekeeping.” When Elle King first began to make the transition to country music, she was praised by Saving Country Music for her rendition of “Jersey Giant” by Tyler Childers.
But to get respect, you must give respect. And now in a number of instances, Elle King has failed to show the respect country music and its legends and institutions deserve. And anyone, man or woman, deserves to be held to that standard of respecting country music before being extended big opportunities by the genre.
Trigger
January 24, 2024 @ 9:50 am
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Adam Sheets
January 24, 2024 @ 9:59 am
Trigger, I agree with your point here but I did want to push back a little on Amanda Marie Martinez’s statement about King’s “fake southern accent.” Her father is, of course, a Hollywood star (one who really should tell his daughter about his buddy Chris Farley and how he ended up). But she was raised in Wellston, Ohio. That’s an hour and a half south of where Dwight Yoakam spent most of his youth and well into the Appalachian region. As someone from a neighboring county, I can “hide” the accent to a degree but it does become more pronounced when alcohol is added to the equation (which luckily doesn’t happen these days). I have definitely had people in Columbus and Cleveland assume I was from Kentucky or West Virginia.
So Martinez does seem to be under the mistaken assumption that there is a uniform accent throughout the Buckeye State. That simply isn’t the case. She is correct on the rest of it, though.
Trigger
January 24, 2024 @ 10:06 am
Hey Adam,
Fairly noted.
I have been rather critical of Amanda Marie Martinez’s perspectives and opinions over the years, and I’m not 100% in agreement with this one either. But I wanted to present some perspectives different from my own to try and give a greater context to these “double standard” claims. Just like with Stella Parton, I agree there are double standards. I just don’t think this is one of them.
Justin H
January 24, 2024 @ 7:16 pm
Yet if you pull up some interviews from 2015, she doesn’t have an accent.
A
January 24, 2024 @ 1:32 pm
“Her accent isn’t fake. She’s from Ohio.” Lol, okay. Butbwas she not raised in L.A.? Either way, her whole persona is trash.
Adam Sheets
January 24, 2024 @ 1:53 pm
She’s from the same region of Ohio as Bobby Bare, Johnny Paycheck, Earl Thomas Conley, Cowboy Copas, Roy Rogers, and Dave Evans. If her accent is fake, you must think their accents are as well. But I can assure you that they aren’t.
By the way, it isn’t just people from the northern part of my own state who think we sound like West Virginians. I talked with Roger Alan Wade, who is from east Tennessee, once and he asked me about that specifically. And I wasn’t even drunk at the time.
Justin
January 24, 2024 @ 7:21 pm
Not fake? Where did it go?
https://youtu.be/4OXT3mBtTXQ
I’m from Ohio and we talk like she sounds in that interview, not how she sounds on stage now.
Adam Sheets
January 24, 2024 @ 8:19 pm
Again, Ohio is a big place. 32 of our 88 counties are considered to be part of Appalachia and, when outside those counties, I have personally been asked by fellow Ohioans why I have an accent or what state I’m from. I remember back in middle school taking a field trip with my class to Cedar Point in Sandusky and people being shocked to find out we were from the same state as them. I distinctly remember one lady who had to be in her 40s saying, “I’ve never seen Ohioans with accents before.”
As for why she doesn’t always talk that way, it’s called code-switching and it’s a documented phenomenon. I’m quite capable of speaking the way she does in that interview and might even do so if I were signed to a major label and attempting to appeal to an urban and suburban pop audience rather than a country one, as she was back then. It’s also well known that alcohol makes you give less of a shit than usual and so your accent can come out even thicker than usual.
I’m not trying to defend Ms. King at all. I’ve literally heard two songs from her in my entire life, one a duet with Miranda Lambert and the other a Tyler Childers cover. I care about her on a human level and, as someone who struggled with addiction myself, hope she gets the help she needs. But I’m not a fan here to defend her honor.
But I have been to Wellston and I have relatives who live there. It’s a small town right on the Jackson/Vinton County line, Vinton County being the least-populated, most rural county in the entire state. Most of the roads there are still the type Jason Aldean liked to sing about back in the day but has never actually been on (and, just to be clear, it’s not the neighboring county I reside in). But people there do, in fact, talk like Elle King did on the Opry stage. Whether that’s how Ms. King speaks in her day-to-day life is something I can’t tell you. I’ve never met her. But I am certain that I know more about Wellston than Amanda Marie Martinez and know enough about the region in general to not mistake an Appalachian accent for a “fake southern accent.”
Justin
January 24, 2024 @ 9:44 pm
Yeah, it’s called faking it. Talk about taking the long way to explain a person faking an accent
Adam Sheets
January 24, 2024 @ 9:54 pm
This discussion isn’t going anywhere. I’ve lived here my entire life and know what I know. Try leaving the three Cs or their suburbs sometime before making blanket statements like, “I’m from Ohio and this is how we talk.”
Adam Sheets
January 24, 2024 @ 10:14 pm
https://www.wlwt.com/article/linguists-id-three-different-ohio-dialects/3527191
RJay
January 25, 2024 @ 6:26 am
Sounds like ‘faking it’ in this case is talking without the accent.
Adam Sheets
January 25, 2024 @ 9:05 am
@RJay – Exactly! I think most of us have experience with alcohol and know it’s effects. And it was quite obvious from the video that Elle King didn’t care about much of anything that night. Certainly not her performance, her reputation or her audience. It doesn’t compute that the one thing she still cared about was speaking in a “fake” accent when there is, indeed, ample evidence of her speaking quite differently. No, she faked an accent when she cared about her reputation among audiences who stereotype people who talk like she does naturally.
RJay
January 25, 2024 @ 6:32 am
‘Code-switching’. So that’s what I’ve been doing all these years.
All it takes is a phone conversation with family and I ‘code switch’ back to the former accent. No alcohol necessary!! Ha
Travis
January 26, 2024 @ 5:37 am
You make some good points and I don’t see why people have to argue about your obviously real experiences and understanding of the area. I’ll add that in addition to drinking bringing out an accent, I’ve seen with my mother that just being back around her family will bring out her accent. My extended family are from, and live in Minnesota, and have that accent that you see in Fargo that people make fun of, but my mom’s lived in another state for the last 40 years. However every time she goes back to MN and then returns back home, she has a MN accent for a few weeks, then it trails off again.
Noneya
January 24, 2024 @ 10:05 am
I honestly don’t see what the big deal is. I’m not a fan of Elle King, but I watched the footage.
Again, people in the past have done worse and noone was crying for an apology.
Plus, the Opry has sinned, right?
Trigger
January 24, 2024 @ 10:21 am
“Again, people in the past have done worse and noone was crying for an apology.”
Sometimes I wonder why I even write these articles.
Sylvia Nankyer Payton
January 24, 2024 @ 1:39 pm
Trigger,
This article is better researched than the two I have read so far. If you don’t want to be canceled, then do more research on issues about “saving country” by emphasizing that theme extensively and elaborating on the topic with follow ups and updates; such as calling out Country Music Stars who misbehave and what consequences they face. This might keep everyone alert to be on good behavior and perhaps make common decency “fashionable” again!
Di Harris
January 24, 2024 @ 2:16 pm
“If you don’t want to be canceled, …”
WOW ….. passive/aggressive threat, anyone?
Who’s going to cancel him Sylvia? You? ????
Trigger
January 24, 2024 @ 2:43 pm
We should all appreciate the fact that Sylvia Nankyer Payton may or may not be real.
Di Harris
January 24, 2024 @ 2:51 pm
: D So, no talk back to AI?
Can see it now …
Tethered to the mother ship, via umbilical, arguing with Hal.
“Open the damn door.”
Mike
January 25, 2024 @ 11:07 am
I read it more as a warning than a threat..
Noneya
January 24, 2024 @ 3:41 pm
It’s just an opinion, friend.
I like your work and appreciate what you do for the genre.
Linda Kate
January 24, 2024 @ 5:35 pm
Sheesh…did you even read the article?????
Blair
January 24, 2024 @ 10:18 am
Next… Non issue at this point. People make mistakes and that’s life. How King handles it is what matters.
PS Keep Toby Keith out of this…
Hank Charles
January 24, 2024 @ 10:26 am
Another example of the contrived “support women” mantra that’s hot with girls these days. Very insincere and cringe worthy.
Grotesque woman gives awful performance, embarrassing herself while simultaneously disrespecting the venue and artist, and the conversation shifts to “WELL, WHAT IF SHE WERE A MAN!?”
That’s where it should probably end. She’s not a man. She’s a mediocre act with a connected father and a substance abuse problem. Everyone is better served by simply shaking their heads, ignoring her based on the quality of her total product, and moving on.
Kimberly
January 24, 2024 @ 11:24 am
As I woman, I do not believe feminism requires all women to side with/believe all women. You are right that there is a big push for this. It is brainless. There are all kinds of women who behave awfully, lie, are nuts or untrustworthy just like there are men who do these things. Feminism shouldn’t mean having to check your brain at the door. Adult women should be given the respect to not be treated like they are fragile little girls who can’t be expected to behave like an adult, and to be responsible for their behavior just like we should expect this from men. This attitude is really putting me at odds with modern feminism, yet I consider myself a feminist. Go figure.
Lefty Throckmorton
February 4, 2024 @ 1:11 pm
^THIS.
For too long, people have been letting women get away with a lot of crap and siding with people who say that women should behave as they want to. Well, that has to change, and more women like you need to speak up and tell their sisters what you just said here.
Jake Cutter
January 24, 2024 @ 10:39 am
First take she’s a victim. Next take she’s fake and a product of nepotism and racial double standards and “must face consequences.” Perfect.
MH
January 24, 2024 @ 10:46 am
Why does Amanda Marie Martinez hate women?
Kevin Smith
January 24, 2024 @ 10:47 am
Little confused by Stella’s rant. She’s talking out of both sides of her mouth. But, I think she’s still acknowledging it was a very bad look. As to the double standard idea, just for fun..plug the name Luke Combs in to this scenario, and hypothetically imagine him paying tribute to oh I dunno…let’s say Randy Travis. Same scenario, Combs comes out lit, forgets the words to Diggin Up Bones, and starts F- bombing through it, would the audience really be any less upset? Of course not. If he then told them my name is Luke Combs and I’m @#$ ‘in hammered, and you ain’t getting your money back…do you really imagine there wouldn’t be blowback from The Opry and from fans?? C’ mon, you know it would be equally scandalous. That’s the truth. As Trig rightfully points out, back in the day Jones at times infuriated promoters and audiences. I’ve heard about those times a bit, in some cases, Jones was running out any door he could find to escape the wrath of the people he pissed off. They weren’t winking at him with a grin and going, oh…that’s just Jones, boys will be boys. There were consequences, and he got so low at one point, his whole band quit him, he was homeless, living out of a Cadillac, and promoters wouldn’t touch him with a pole!
Partons comments aside, my guess is King and her handlers are reading the room right now before issuing statements.
JB-Chicago
January 24, 2024 @ 3:03 pm
I don’t know where or when we were lucky enough here on SCM to get a well-spoken, articulate, and obviously knowledgeable regular poster like Kevin Smith to join us, but I agree with him most of the time and always look forward to his take, regardless of how lengthy it might be. I agree Luke would get reemed for doing it, but Luke has paid his dues and done so many things for Country music and up and coming artists he would be a lot easier and quicker to forgive. What’s Elle King done to even deserve to be at the Opry or even co hosting next to Lainey on any awards show FFS?? If the highlight of your career is Drunk (And I Don’t Wanna Go Home) just go home and stay there!!!
Kevin Smith
January 25, 2024 @ 7:01 am
Thanks JB for the vote of confidence! Haha, I can be an opinionated cuss, I know. Yeah, I just threw Combs name out as he came to mind , seeing as he plays The Opry fairly often, and he’s well liked. Yeah, he might get quicker forgiveness than King, but guarantee there would still be a controversy. You are right about King, though. She’s not endearing herself to many bedrock country fans. She has adopted the standards and mannerisms that are common in pop and hip- hop music, with edgy language, over- the- top sexuality and the like. Honestly, I’ve seen some of her fans close- up and I think they are pop music fans first and foremost. The only reason I ended up seeing her live, was she was headlining a small country music festival. Marty Stuart opened for her! ???? I was there to see Marty and Kentucky Headhunters. Talk about night and day difference in fanbase! Yikes.
Cee Cee Bee
January 24, 2024 @ 11:20 am
While I don’t believe SCM’s call for an apology constitutes a “double standard” (and I myself have said she should apologize and not be invited back), some of the commentary and comments on social media DO deserve to be criticized.
I have seen several artists (male and female) take the stage drunk. I have paid good money to see artists perform only to be subjected to a slurred word and stumble fest. I always felt cheated, angry, and always felt it was extremely disrespectful to turn in a performance that poor when people had shelled out their hard earned money to support and enjoy a show. The fact that King did this at the OPRY makes it much worse in my eyes, which is why I believe she should apologize.
But there IS a double standard when it comes to the reaction of some fans and critics when it comes to the bad behavior of entertainers. Men with obvious substance or alcohol abuse problems are often offered sympathy and empathy. “I hope he gets help,” or “I feel so sad for him.” The most recent example I can think of this is Evan Felker. Elle King isn’t getting that same kind of understanding. She is being mercilessly mocked. Men who are caught committing adultery (Jason Aldean, anyone?) are immediately forgiven, while women (Miranda Lambert is a good example after her relationship with Felker) are called whores and homewreckers). I am NOT saying that Trigger or SCM is guilty of this double standard, but many in the media (and a TON of regular commenters on this blog) are guilty.
Elle King is a very talented woman and I enjoy some of her music. She should be allowed to put this behind her and the best and fasted way to move forward is for her to apologize and then clean up her act in future performances. It’s unfortunate that this happened, but to me, the reaction of the public has been the most unfortunate part of it all.
CountryKnight
January 24, 2024 @ 12:34 pm
Felker got roasted in the comments here.
Jimmy
January 24, 2024 @ 9:59 pm
Lots of people here have said they hope she gets help.
Thass
January 24, 2024 @ 12:08 pm
Well, Billy Bob’s just announced that King’s Friday concert has been rescheduled to September 21st, citing unforeseen circumstances.
Trigger
January 24, 2024 @ 12:25 pm
Definitely could be a sign of a trip to rehab. I wish her the best.
Todd Peterson
January 25, 2024 @ 7:40 pm
Four more shows in February rescheduled for March. https://countryrebel.com/elle-king-postpones-4-more-shows-after-opry-performance-backlash/?fbclid=IwAR3x8x_8JD1KyKiCfQPpsPoL9h5baZ0qm4YLXAvQ7_tdXLOmgAeYMJEijBY
David B
January 24, 2024 @ 12:36 pm
Also, do not forget that in 1956 after six months of membership, Rose Maddox was fired from the Opry for showing her bare midriff during an Opry performance. The effort to terminate her was led by “The King” himself, Roy Acuff. I do not know for sure how long it was before Rose was allowed back, but I do remember her performing again in the 1990’s.
Strait
January 24, 2024 @ 5:01 pm
Shania’s midriff in the 90’s is probably the best thing in country music
Jeff
January 24, 2024 @ 12:36 pm
Her Billy Bob’s show for Jan 26 has been postponed to September due to unforseen circumstances. Week long bender maybe?
Strait
January 24, 2024 @ 1:48 pm
Stella most definitely isn’t riding on any coat tails (sarcasm)
Sylvia Nankyer Payton
January 24, 2024 @ 2:21 pm
With this established platform “Saving Country,” perhaps Trigger should tell his readers why “the father of Country Music” Hank Williams Senior, is not a member of the Grand Ole Opry posthumously, but yet, the honor has been bestowed on Keith Whitley?. This partiality is inexcusable. The Grand Ole Opry should revise it’s membership rules and standards.
Being Country is honoring tradition proactively, spirituality, patriotic enthusiasm, explore with some elements of humor and entertainment—anything but Rock And Roll. When Country Legends begin to blur the line for upcoming country music artists like Elle King, one can understand why Elle King has not apologize to Dolly Parton. Rehab? AHA! “Worth A Shot” (Elle King)
blockman
January 24, 2024 @ 11:49 pm
Read the article you numpty. Trig addresses the Hank Sr/Keith Whitley posthumous induction.
Charlie
January 25, 2024 @ 5:25 am
It’s hilarious that AI is ragging on Trigger specifically!
Daniel Allen Judy
January 24, 2024 @ 3:06 pm
Country music celebrates alcohol. It’s almost a right of passage to have a song about whisky. So no one can really complain when it rears it’s ugly head.
Disrespectful, yes. Worth talking about, no. Unless people want to talk about alcoholism in the industry. 90% of the gigs I play are in bars, where I can drink for free. Some of those gigs, I was only paid in booze.
I think the real story here is nepotism. This is Rob Schneider’s daughter. ????
Jack Nelson
January 24, 2024 @ 3:15 pm
Stella should have been on to tribute big sister! The opry tries to pander and only drags out the legends when it makes them look good or when they don’t have the real dolly there to sing so they use her birthday as an excuse to sell a few more tickets to see inferior performers butcher Dolly’s music.
Dolly has done more for country music than the opry in the past 30+yrs.
wayne
January 24, 2024 @ 3:22 pm
The Opry deserves any bad publicity it can get by having this twit on stage to begin with.
Redneck_rainman
January 24, 2024 @ 4:21 pm
Beside the point I know but I think the date is off for the Dierks Bentley story. By the start of 2005 he’d already had a #1 with “What Was I Thinking?” and had two other hits with “My Last Name” and “How Am I Doing?”
Trigger
January 24, 2024 @ 4:29 pm
Thanks for the heads up. It might have been 2005 when he was “reinstated.”
Big A
January 24, 2024 @ 5:20 pm
I saw Elle King open for Chris Stapleton at Meriwether in 2022 and she appeared so drunk that I thought she was acting. Like a high school kid trying to show the other kids how drunk they are. I felt so bad for Madeline Edwards during their duet.
Also her accent sounds fake to me, or at least grossly overdone. Google any of her old interviews and you hear no trace of accent, though I do sympathize with us folks who try to hide it. Still, there’s a big difference from having it slip out to embellishing it. I don’t get why people like her and Aaron Lewis feel they have to try so hard to prove they’re bona fide.
All that said, I was actually surprised by how much I liked her songs. She did a solid cover of Long Haired Country Boy and even some of her pop songs stripped of the slick production sounded pretty damn cool.
Anyway, may she finds whatever it is she is looking for.
Paige
January 24, 2024 @ 6:13 pm
She’s the daughter of actor Rob Schneider and an actress and she grew up in LA. The accent is put on not hidden.
Brainiac
January 25, 2024 @ 6:50 am
Well, she did split a lot of time between Ohio and NY growing up. I believe she went to some pretty posh East Coast schools for high school. Her parents divorced when she was around one and her model mom remarried, I believe to someone who was well off from southern Ohio.
From some podcast interviews it seems like she didn’t have the closest relationship with her dad and that’s partially why she didn’t use his name, though he is also a has-been who hasn’t done anything worthwhile in 25 years so maybe she just didn’t want that association to follow her. She did relocate to LA when she was trying to get her music career off the ground.
CountryKnight
January 25, 2024 @ 8:43 am
Adam Sheets won’t like your comment.
Justin
January 27, 2024 @ 4:26 am
That’s because her accent is fake. She’s from Ohio and we don’t talk like that. She has no accent in earlier interviews.
Paige
January 24, 2024 @ 6:04 pm
TBF, Elle may not have apologized because she’s still hung over as hell. But on a more serious note, I get where the less informed public go, why is a female.country star being asked to apologize for outlaw shit? They don’t know that the Opry isn’t a place the previously tolerated such belligerent behavior and it isn’t a double standard, just a matter of place and time.
Jimmy
January 24, 2024 @ 10:03 pm
Female country star? Hahahaha.
Paige
January 25, 2024 @ 3:31 pm
I’m no fan of hers and hadn’t heard of her before this. I just used the phrase because she got invited to the Opry for a big event.
Justin H
January 24, 2024 @ 7:17 pm
https://youtu.be/4OXT3mBtTXQ
Where was her accent then?
Jimmy
January 24, 2024 @ 10:05 pm
Stella Parton has more air in her head than the Goodyear Blimp.
Daniele
January 25, 2024 @ 5:48 am
i was surprised i liked her record.
I wonder if this whole “bragadoccio” persona is due to her pop/hip-hop past were things like these are still considered cool
Ray
January 25, 2024 @ 6:47 am
The Opry apologized on Monday. Where is Elle’s apology? Isn’t she the one the owes it?
PJ
January 26, 2024 @ 11:47 pm
I find it odd that the Opry never mentioned her name in its apology. Trying not to offend her maybe? Absurd…
blackgoldenboybrady
January 25, 2024 @ 7:13 am
The late Holly Dunn could have been banned for her 1991 hit,”Maybe I Mean Yes,” whose video basically showed two Adam and Eve characters in an ersatz Eden (they were clothed) and,during the Clarence Thomas-Anita Hill sexual assault hearings seemed to say that women who said no to sex actually meant yes. Ms. Dunn,a promising young artist,pretty much disappeared until her 2015 death.
JPalmer
January 25, 2024 @ 7:47 am
It’s almost as if the people who claim a double standard are just mad their favorite celebrity wasn’t given that preferred treatment.
Noneya
January 25, 2024 @ 12:54 pm
Why was someone that intoxicated allowed on stage in the first place? Oh wait..
Ms. X
January 25, 2024 @ 3:05 pm
Out of all the talented country musicians that are out there, they chose Elle King??? That’s on the Opry and the organizers…he’ll, they should’ve chosen Stella Parton lol
Carla
January 26, 2024 @ 12:03 am
I’ve heard a bit about this and all I think is it sounds like she might have a substance problem? That behaviour is pretty extreme at such a place, time and opportunity. Hoping she gets the help and support she needs.
Nobody Important
January 26, 2024 @ 6:02 pm
It’s not a double standard. If she wanted to show up drunk to perform her own stuff, then that’s her business. This gal went up there and made a fool of herself during a tribute to Dolly, who is dearly beloved and deserves better. I am sure Dolly would just crack a joke and move on but I think it’s ok that people are upset about this. And the apple doesn’t seem to fall very far from the tree, her dad regularly makes a fool of himself and seems to have similar issues.
Chris Hinton
February 1, 2024 @ 6:07 am
People like Amanda Marie Martinez probably hear other people talk glowingly about George Jones missing shows, Johnny Cash kicking out footlights at the Opry, or Waylon’s drug addiction and missing the point behind why people talk about them in a positive light NOW. George Jones isn’t a legend because he shot at people, got drunk, no showed, and raised hell all the time in his younger days. George Jones is a legend because he faced his demons head on and came out the other side stronger and healthier than before.
You don’t see as many “modern day outlaws” as you did a little better than 10 years ago, but the sentiment is still there. You still have guys that want to be seen as badasses and they do and say all kinds of dumb stuff to overcompensate. For my money, Elle King is the female version of that. I never took any of the new outlaws from back in the day seriously, even though I did like a few of their songs. And I feel the same way about Elle King. Getting plastered at your own concert or at a bar gig is one thing. Going on stage hammered at the Grand Ole Opry is another. Elle King should admit she screwed up, take the L, and move on just like any man should have to do if he did what she did.
stacy scott
February 1, 2024 @ 6:54 am
Okay , country music may be big business these days…..but rooted in that business part is the music as an expression of a way of life. At the heart of that way of life is some version, idealized or real, of the family,
With open arms , Elle King was invited to sit at the family dinner table, in the family home, and she spat on that welcoming. By being unprepared and by showing up drunk, when asked to honor an elder of the family, she showed a complete lack of gratitude and appreciation.
Simply put, she needs to apologize. Not a manager/ pr firm apology but a real apology from the heart.
Country music will understand and most likely, forgive, because also rooted in the heart of country music is the recognition of human flaws and mistake making. The whole genre is filled with songs of regret, bad behavior and troubled lives. Not to mention, booze.
And by the way, who the heck is her manager? Wow, has he/she never heard of crisis communication. Elle and her team have not handled this well at all.
Just an opinion
February 1, 2024 @ 6:55 am
Maybe we should be more worried about whether she has a problem with alcohol and needs treatment. Helping get her treatment would say a lot to people who are out there suffering. Maybe we could normalize getting help instead of normalizing dragging people down.
Ginger Martin
February 4, 2024 @ 8:40 am
If you care about country music and its legends like Dolly Parton, BOYCOTT this trash ELLE KING! She should NEVER be and NEVER HAVE BEEN on the stage of the Grand Ole Opry.
goldenglamourboybradyblocker71
December 6, 2024 @ 4:35 pm
We black men suffer the most and harshest double standards of ANYONE,including black women (maybe ESPECIALLY black women),but I don’t know why ANY performer,female or male,would show up drunk and disorderly and disrespect a Dolly Parton tribute.Not smart,Ms. King.I hope your budding career doesn’t suffer because of the unseemly incident.