Zach Bryan Pissed that “Pink Skies” Sent to Pop Radio

Zach Bryan released a new song on Friday, May 24th called “Pink Skies” ahead of his new album The Great American Bar Scene expected later this year, and the song is already off to a roaring start. It’s expected to debut high on the Billboard Hot 100 next week, and perhaps crown the Billboard Hot Country Songs chart.
But on Tuesday, May 28th, it was reported that “Pink Skies” was sent to Top 40 pop radio as a single, and it seems like Zach Bryan is not too happy about it. Zach might not be too happy with his label Warner Records either.
After US Radio Updater reported the pop radio add, Zach Bryan responded in a host of tweets, “This is f–ked, I never approved this, why is Pink Skies at Pop radio? I’m not a f–king Pop artist, or country artist leave me out of this. PINK SKIES IS NOT A POP SONG!”

Listening to “Pink Skies,” it’s clearly not what anyone would consider “pop,” though it’s not exactly 100% country either. This is the whole reason Saving Country Music recently drafted a Country Music Dewey Decimal System so that many of the arguments and misunderstandings about genre could be more easily resolved.
With it’s prominent country instrumentation, but clear singer/songwriter structure and approach, “Pink Skies” could easily be categorized in 570.2, or “Country-Inspired Americana.” You could also put it in 570.1, or 570.15. Also, because Zach Bryan is from Oklahoma and the song does mix elements of country with folk/singer/songwriter, you could also put it in 550.7, “Red Dirt.”

But regardless of what you call it, Warner Records sending “Pink Skies” to pop radio as opposed to country has much deeper implications. Perhaps they were planning to send it to country too, where it would likely perform okay. But as we’ve seen over Zach’s career so far, country radio has been lukewarm on Zach’s songs that have otherwise been some of the most popular in the entire format in a given year.
Zach Bryan’s 2022 single “Something in the Orange” is an incredible 7-times Certified Platinum and also spent six weeks at #1 on the Billboard Hot Country Songs chart that measures overall consumption. But the best it could do on country radio was #20. Zach’s 2023 single “I Remember Everything” with Kacey Musgraves is 2-times Platinum and counting, spent 17 weeks at #1 on the Billboard Hot Country Song chart, but could only eek out a #26 showing on country radio.
Zach Bryan is far and away the 2nd most popular artist on the country format behind Morgan Wallen. And though Zach may not fit snugly in country and certainly is an outlier in the mainstream, he’s much more country than he is anything else, and definitely more country than pop, no matter his own protestations or anyone else’s.
But since Bryan is not of Music Row and the conventional mainstream country music system, they’re reluctant to embrace him. We’ve seen this same attitude from country music award shows when it comes to Zach.
Through this “Pink Skies” discussion, Zach Bryan is also signaling frustrations with his label. He said late last week that once he was done with his deal with Warner, he wanted to record an album of Jason Isbell covers. He also said during his tweet storm Tuesday evening, “I have one record left after ‘The Great American Bar Scene,’ if it’s acoustic don’t mind it.”
Then Zach said later, “guys you have to send songs to radio, like you have to be like, ‘yeah I’m okay with that,’ going which way or the other,” explaining to the public that “Pink Skies” being sent to pop must have been purposeful by his label, and against his will.
This is all somewhat reminiscent of the fake controversy surrounding Beyoncé’s single “Texas Hold ‘Em.” As the media and Beyoncé Stans made a national narrative out of how country radio wasn’t playing the single initially, her label initially only sent the single to pop, while the metadata on the song had the song categorized as pop as well.
Mainstream country radio stations only play what they’re sent from labels to play, and often only play it at a level commensurate with how much promotion they put behind the single. If Warner Record had tried to push “Something in the Orange” to #1 on country radio, it probably would have eventually gotten there.
But Zach Bryan doesn’t need country radio like other performers. He’s excelling without it. If anything, country radio needs Zach Bryan to remain relevant to what listeners want to hear. But the mainstream country radio format is so stuck in an antiquated system, they don’t understand the new paradigm of viral appeal and how to incorporate it. They’re still only playing what major labels tell them to.
Though it’s not exactly the same scenario, Zach Bryan’s reaction is similar to another artist that was signed to Warner. Randy Travis once lost it when he found out his third studio album Old 8X10 from 1988 was charting on the pop charts. “The folks at Warner were celebrating, but I was irate. ‘Pop charts? What’s it doing on there? Get it off there,’ I said sternly. ‘I’m not a pop singer! I’m a country singer.’”
When they explained to Randy that his album was the #5 album in the USA in all genres, and that’s why it was charting in “pop,” Randy responded, “Oh. Okay. I guess that’s all right then.”
It’s likely Warner saw a greater opportunity to find traction for Zach Bryan on Top 40 mainstream radio as opposed to country, at least initially. From a strictly strategic standpoint, they might not be wrong. But for decades, country artists sending songs to pop has been considered as sort of a sellout move, and only acceptable when artists crossover naturally simply from becoming so popular.
At this point, Zach Bryan is one of the most popular artists in all of music, not just country. And as he says himself, he doesn’t consider himself a “country” artist, but a singer/songwriter, which puts him more in the vein of folk and Americana.
But right now, this style of singer/songwriter music like Zach Bryan, Noah Kahan, and other surging artists like Wyatt Flores are playing is one of the most popular styles in all of music. It’s becoming the “pop” of this era, simply from its widespread popularity. In this instance, it isn’t a sign of selling out. It’s a sign of success.
May 29, 2024 @ 7:58 am
This is such a weird beef to have. Pop = popular. If Bluegrass was taking over the country, we’d see Joe Mullins and the Radio Ramblers on the pop charts. This should be a non-issue for Zach, and is definitely not something to cuss about. I think he’s just having a rough time with his label.
May 29, 2024 @ 8:36 am
You touch upon this, but there really is no such thing as “pop radio.” It’s Top 40 radio, but everyone calls it Pop Radio since that’s pretty much what it is played on Top 40. It’s remarkable how much “country” has been played there over the past two years, namely Fast Car and Morgan Wallen.
The more and more Zach is around, the more he comes across as obtrusive. Is late night anger tweeting the most professionally mature way to deal with a label matter? Especially when he misunderstood the entire situation?
He’s been dealt a royal flush with how organically successful he’s become, but I hope he doesn’t turn that into stubborn resentment anytime something doesn’t go his way when dealing with “the music industry.”
May 29, 2024 @ 8:59 am
I started Saving Country Music in large part to protect artists from record labels. I understand and respect Zach Bryan’s frustration with Warner, but it has in large measure to do with as soon as he finishes an album and turns it into them, he wants it out two weeks later because he thinks it’s the best one he’s ever done and wants to share it with his fans. Every artist thinks like like this, but you do have to give labels lead time to process the artwork, register all the music, manufacture vinyl, etc. Forget marketing, because Zach’s music doesn’t come with it anyway. But it does take time to make all of this stuff happen. I think that’s really what this all has to do with.
May 29, 2024 @ 5:24 pm
Does he even need a label any more? What’s their benefit for him? What’s the big risk if he went that route? I thought Sturgill had some sort of distribution-only deal, seems ZB is in a position to go that route too.
May 29, 2024 @ 7:29 pm
Sturgill Simpson started on Thirty Tigers, then signed with Atlantic, got pissed off at them so bad they let him out of his deal, and then he signed with Thirty Tigers again. Thirty Tigers is kind of like a label lite. They handle all the distribution and stuff, but don’t get in the way. For someone like Zach Bryan who basically doesn’t allow his label to do anything anyway, it would probably be perfect.
But just like Sturgill Simpson, I don’t think Zach has any idea just how screwed you can be by your record label. Ask Hank Williams III, Tim McGraw, Jamey Johnson, and The [Dixie] Chicks.
May 29, 2024 @ 8:44 am
A song “winding up” on the pop charts, like Randy’s album, is different than a label taking a proactive action of sending the song to the pop stations. IMO, it’s different no matter how you slice it. At the very least, they should have consulted with the artist first. I agree with Zach on this.
May 29, 2024 @ 8:53 am
Well ill give bryan credit. He himself said he wasnt a country artist
May 29, 2024 @ 2:40 pm
Yes, I wonder how many picked up on that quote. I did.
May 29, 2024 @ 8:04 pm
Listen to his podcast with Joe Rogan. He isn’t great at thinking or speaking logically. I was embarrassed for him. I’m still glad he’s big with young people. ZB’s music is a step in the right direction.
May 30, 2024 @ 2:42 am
I wish we could draw parallels here with Whiskeytown and Ryan Adams. He hated being classified as country because he knew it meant that he had fans with genre-specific expectations and like Bryan, he was extremely prolific. When you write that much, you are very likely to cross genre lines and now people are mad at you.
It doesn’t seem like Bryan is balking at these characterizations from this standpoint. Maybe he just hates pop and does not want feel he is country enough.
All that said, I cannot imagine you can argue with Trigger when viewed through the system he augmented for classification. Bryan is so much more country that most of what is on the radio.
May 30, 2024 @ 4:52 am
But unlike Bryan, Ryan Adam’s was a major part of a hugely country sounding band in Whiskeytown. He may not be a country artist but he does it pretty well.
May 30, 2024 @ 7:18 am
Zach Bryan doesn’t want to be classified as “pop” due to the stigma surrounding it and because it fundamentally doesn’t describe his music. He doesn’t want to be labeled “country” out of a fundamental respect for the genre, what it is, and knowing he doesn’t illustrate it through his music in the traditional sense.
Also when he said, “Leave me out of this,” he was saying basically that he didn’t even want to hassle with the argument, he just wanted to make music, which we all should be able to respect.
It is for these very moments that i drafted the Dewey Decimal system for country. Call him pop, people argue. Call him country, people argue. Call him singer/songwriter-based or country-influenced Americana, nobody will argue, because that’s what he is.
May 30, 2024 @ 10:45 am
“Call him singer/songwriter-based or country-influenced Americana, nobody will argue, because that’s what he is.”
You are right there. That said, when folks ask me what kind of music I listen to, I will have to begin using the segment of your system that suits me best because I certainly cannot say country. That is what SUCKS most about those that have crushed country because in my opinion, I listen to country but anymore I can’t even say it.
May 29, 2024 @ 8:57 am
This is one of those things that in certain circles it may pay off to be performatively angry about.
I’m not saying this is an insincere marketing work, but I am saying that letting this inside thought outside may not entirely be an emotional decision.
May 29, 2024 @ 4:51 pm
90% of the comments on this story on Facebook are, “Well yeah, he’s a pop star, so what’s he complaining about?”
Whether you like Zach Bryan or not, if you listen to “Pink Skies” and hear pop, I’m not sure you have a right to an opinion. And that comes from someone who thinks everyone’s opinions on music should matter.
Zach had no choice but to address headlines that read, “Zach Bryan sends single to pop radio.”
May 29, 2024 @ 8:59 am
As Uriah Heep front man, Bernie Shaw said, on May, 21st – “Great music is great music, and we all know it when we hear it.”
Receiving thunderous applause, and whistles.
Country Music Dewey Decimal System.
God Bless those who are so busy taking selfies, and capturing videos of every moment, that they totally miss the moment …
May 29, 2024 @ 9:02 am
It’s not a pop song, it’s a Beyoncé song.
May 29, 2024 @ 9:22 am
Any chance this is just posturing on Zach’s part to save face with the roots fans that are his bread and butter?
May 29, 2024 @ 10:21 am
I could be wrong on this, but I think the majority of his fan base overlaps with a good chunk of the Wallen and some of the Swift fan base. I don’t think it’s a roots crowd like you’d see at a Billy Strings show. If anything, his main base is now the Top 40 crowd, or at least trending that way. He probably feels like he’s being sucked into some intergalactic shit hole.
May 29, 2024 @ 10:36 am
If the Bryan/Wallen/Swift fan bases overlap, it’s because these are the three most popular artists in music at the moment. I would say there is more overlap between Zach Bryan and Taylor Swift fan than Morgan Wallen fans and either Bryan or Swift.
May 30, 2024 @ 8:48 am
Trigger,
I work in athletes. Most of the women listen to Swift (popular), Wallen (bad boy feeling), and Bryan (their version of keeping it real). They absolutely overlap.
June 3, 2024 @ 6:08 pm
You couldn’t pay me to listen to any of them. At least Swift I have some respect for.
June 4, 2024 @ 8:52 am
All this gatekeeping or not gatekeeping of music genres is so weird. “Hey, I usually listen to alt rock and folktronica, and haven’t listen to the actual radio in years, but I heard your new song and sure do like it, is that ok?” It’s all so gd weird.
May 29, 2024 @ 10:34 am
One of the reasons I wanted to talk about this was to add the context of how some “country” artists have perceived “going pop” over the years. That’s why I included the Randy Travis quote. Miranda Lambert and Carrie Underwood have also spoken publicly in the past about how they don’t purposely service their songs to pop radio, because they feel like this is being disingenuous to themselves as country artists. Pop radio picking a song up like “Fast Car” by Luke Combs is sort of a different thing.
I think Zach Bryan was concerned how this could be perceived, and you’ve also seen a lot of social media chatter of people saying, “Well yeah, because he’s pop anyway,” so that concern isn’t unwarranted. I just think he wanted to get it out there that he personally was not signing off on either calling himself pop, or purposely moving into the pop space.
“Pink Skies” is not a pop song. It’s just isn’t.
May 29, 2024 @ 12:19 pm
It’s more likely your take is correct, but I don’t think we can dismiss a possibility of chicanery. Especially considering he’s associated with the same master marketing and management team that put Lil Nas X on the country charts. And even though Conrad’s beef with using cuss words is kinda silly, it does seem like a bit of an overreaction.
May 29, 2024 @ 1:26 pm
Trigger, I think this is one of your best and most insightful articles to date. You are on point and thought this through. Congrats
May 31, 2024 @ 11:42 am
Don’t get mad at me, but I think this song has very much what it takes to be Playlist Pop and that is why Warner picked it as a Radio single.
It’s a 4-chord loop that’s on permanent repeat. The chords in the chorus don’t change from the verse. What discerns the chorus and the verse is the lyrics, extra instrumentation and dynamics. We have organic instruments, yes. We have proper sentiment and evocative lyrics, yes. But construction-wise, it happens to mirror exactly what you hear in today’s Playlist Pop landscape.
It’s totally alright to write a song that simple. It’s a stylistic device. Some classics, like Radiohead’s “Creep”, are like that. This is not a diss about the songs simplicity.
But it’s just a fact that this is what today’s kids’ ears are tuned into. Hell I can totally hear a Remix by some Belgian DJ with a permanent bass drum in my mind to this. One of those that aren’t in your face Tekkno but make a folk song sound like (shudder!) Milky Chance.
If I were Zach, I’d be mad that my label picks one of the background songs of my new album as the key track. I’m sure he has much stronger songwriting on the album and this is more like a sketch that now all the emphasis is on.
May 29, 2024 @ 10:10 am
Zach is a crossover artist whether he likes it or not. I’m curious if Pink Skies will get to #1 on the hot 100.
Which artist do you think he will screw over with his album release date? I’m guessing Koe Wetzel on July 19th.
May 29, 2024 @ 10:19 am
Hard to avoid stepping on someone’s toes these days unless you go with a Tuesday afternoon release. There are so many albums being dropped all the time. Trigger just posted an article highlighting a few of them.
May 29, 2024 @ 10:33 am
What a weird song! It sounds like some indie music from Portland. That being said, as someone above said, I think this is all posturing. His girlfriend is an influencer and knows that controversy is the best way to get views. It seems to be already working.
May 29, 2024 @ 1:20 pm
A man can do nothing without a woman being blamed.
May 29, 2024 @ 2:28 pm
Change Woman to influencer and your sentence is correct.
May 29, 2024 @ 10:58 am
I just can’t like this guy…. he’s turning out to be an entitled little bitch. Next thing you know Spotify will be back to calling him an Outlaw and put his picture back up on their Outlaw playlist. What would Waylon say about this little tantrum?
May 29, 2024 @ 11:10 am
I don’t think this is a temper tantrum any more than when Randy Travis did a similar thing. Zach was reacting to reports and people that were characterizing him as “going pop.” He also said he wasn’t country, so I don’t think he’d ever claim he’s an “Outlaw.” It’s not his fault if that’s what Spotify called him. They also call things “Indigo” which sounds like a scented body lotion, so they’re definitely not the arbiters of what “Outlaw” is.
June 1, 2024 @ 10:37 am
It was a tantrum before he decided to post that it was a misunderstanding.
May 30, 2024 @ 12:21 pm
In a world before YouTube and TikTok, ZB never would have made it past the job of a songwriter.
He’s far too organic and unfiltered to have made it on the radio 20 years ago.
Nowadays we have guys like him, Noah Kahan, and Wyatt Flores— people who were never made or even yearned for the spotlight, but got thrown in because younger generations on TikTok recognized their talent and brought them to popularity. I believe Trigger wrote an article a while back mentioning this dynamic.
This is why I think he acts the way he does. He isn’t rockstar material (in terms of ego, attitude, and love of fame), just a guy with good songs who got lucky enough to be able to sing them himself. He wasn’t built for the criticism.
May 29, 2024 @ 11:38 am
I thought Bryan was an asshat when Spotify put his mug shot up when he got arrested as if that was some sort of requirement to be called an Outlaw but I digress. You mention Randy Travis having an outburst at his label, the difference is Randy didn’t do it on Twitter or whatever the fuck it’s called this day in age. So he didn’t come off looking like a spoiled bitch like Bryan does now. I would pay good money to see Chris Knight woop his ass.
May 29, 2024 @ 1:30 pm
Zach is ex military and was a good wrestler. Be careful what you wish for.
May 29, 2024 @ 2:11 pm
Your mean an ex Sailor in the Navy, you make it sound like he is ex delta force member…
May 30, 2024 @ 8:45 am
Have you seen the military of the last few years?
They are always cutting back on the fitness requirements.
June 3, 2024 @ 6:09 pm
Oh you were right the first time about this guy.
May 29, 2024 @ 12:41 pm
Regardless of what genre it fits into, it’s just not a good song. And someone please get the dude a metronome. This song and Nine Ball were released with glaring issues of missing the 1 in the beat.
I just can’t get into his music because his lyrics are so damn wonky:
“I know they got plenty of young blood in em”
Am I missing something or is that just weird, cornball lyrics?
May 29, 2024 @ 1:33 pm
Would totally disagree with your assessment. If you can’t understand what he means by young blood then I feel sorry for you. If you don’t like him that’s your choice but you would be in the minority. You must be a Childers boot licker that can’t stand him getting overshadowed by an artist you don’t like.
May 29, 2024 @ 2:05 pm
I don’t care for Childers. I think he’s overrated.
June 3, 2024 @ 6:11 pm
What does Tyler Childers have to do with Zach Bryan who I think is awful?
May 30, 2024 @ 2:35 am
I don’t think it is just the lyrics that keep you from getting into it. You like more traditional sound – totally acceptable. This is far from it and he is not accidentally doing that one 1 in the beat staccato.
May 30, 2024 @ 1:54 pm
If the “staccato” on the 1 beat is intentional, that is the first time i’ve heard it in popular music. It’s not a situation of accenting the upbeat, it’s that not every instrument is hitting at the same time. And since he’s known to play and sing off tune I have a hard time thinking the “mistake” is artistic.
May 30, 2024 @ 2:11 pm
I listened to the song again. Count the beat in your head (1 2 3 4) and you will see that he loses time completely when he goes to the verse. It’s embarrasing. Not being able to keep time well is common among non-proffesional acoustic players who are naturally talented vocally. But to release something this flawed that millions will hear, is embarrasing. I originally rooted for the dude when he first came out because I noticed some comparisons to Springsteen, who I like.
After several listens the song isn’t his worst. I don’t think it’s good enough to be a single, but then again I’m not a Zach-swiftie that falls in love with everything he yells about. I guess I don’t understand or connect with whatever this bastard acoustic rock post 2000’s music even is. (I’d still rather hear 3 hours of Zach Bryan vs 20 minutes of Jacob Collier)
May 30, 2024 @ 12:59 pm
100%. He is perhaps the most overrated artist of our time. Been saying it for years, but mostly bite my tongue given the backlash that Bryan detractors get around here. The “you’re just jealous” – type responses are my favorite. And no, I don’t just sit around listening to down the fairway honky tonk all day.
May 30, 2024 @ 7:50 pm
^
May 29, 2024 @ 12:42 pm
Either artists have a say in their genre or they don’t. It isn’t fair to argue that Beyonce said she didn’t make a country album so anyone who says otherwise is disrespecting her artistic intent, only to then dismiss Zach Bryan’s consistently stated desire to not be a country artist.
May 29, 2024 @ 4:56 pm
Nobody “argued” that Beyonce didn’t make a country album. Beyonce herself said she didn’t make a country album, and then she authorized projecting her quote saying “This ain’t a country album” onto the side of the Guggenheim Museum in New York to underscore it.
May 29, 2024 @ 6:44 pm
That isn’t quite what I said. I’m saying people, including you, argued ‘Beyonce said she didn’t make a country album THEREFORE calling it such is disrespectful.’ My position needs to be clear for good faith discussion.
What are your thoughts on this? How does intent factor into genre designation? How do you evaluate when statements like Beyonce’s or Zach’s matter?
May 29, 2024 @ 7:42 pm
Beyonce said “Cowboy Carter” wasn’t a country record, and I concurred with her from an informed perspective.
Zach Bryan said he was “not country,” and I also concur that he is not straight-down-the-middle country, but probably more on the periphery of the genre, which is what Americana is for. I think Zach is more of a folk-based singer/songwriter with country inflections and instrumentation. But this still puts him within the greater roots music community, more than he would be in pop.
“Cowboy Carter” definitely has some country inflections and country songs as well. But I would still contend that the majority of the album is more oriented toward pop.
I think that artists have a right to declare themselves whatever they wish, and that should be taken into consideration when trying to assign a genre to them. But I also think it’s the job of entities like Billboard for their charts, The Grammys for their awards, or journalists for their outlets, to try and make informed and objective decisions about these things, and not just take the artist at their word.
I hope this makes sense.
May 29, 2024 @ 5:38 pm
So since he says he’s not a country artist, does this mean people can stop thinking I’m the problem for not caring much for him even though I’m a country fan?
May 29, 2024 @ 6:13 pm
“I Remember Everything” made the Top 25 on Mainstream Top 40 radio the previous year, so I don’t understand his grievances whatsoever. Was he completely oblivious of that single’s crossover success then?
Anyway, I don’t expect “Pink Skies” to have the crossover format appeal “I Remember Everything” had. The latter benefited by being a duet that lent a very relatable, conversational quality to it, whereas “Pink Skies” sounds a bit too AAA-centric to have the same broader resonance.
May 29, 2024 @ 7:55 pm
You can’t rely on recollections from artists.
Randy Travis never had anything close to a top 5 album on the Billboard all-genre Top 200. “Old 8 x 10” peaked at #35 in 1988. His highest charting major album was his breakthrough “Always and Forever”–with the single “Forever and Ever Amen”–that made it to #19 on the 200.
To be fair, that before Soundscan, when country sales might have been undercounted.
May 29, 2024 @ 8:07 pm
Interesting…lotta harmonica for a Billboard Hot 100 song! Not sure it fits, but I haven’t listened to radio in 15 years…
May 29, 2024 @ 8:55 pm
I’m pissed they play him on country radio. But then, country radio doesn’t really play any country music, so he fits right in. ????
Can’t wait for the comments from the Zachestanians. ????
May 29, 2024 @ 10:16 pm
A lot of things can be classified as country music. And I don’t mind classifying a large portion of ZB’s music as such. Zach Bryan, as much as he may protest the genre label, is country in more ways than he isn’t. I personally find about 1/3 of his songs feel squarely country, and another 1/3 are country enough to work in country or Americana or singer songwriter, with the remaining songs being more rock influenced. Whatever you want to call it, it all sounds really western to me, therefore country for all practical purposes. Whether he wants to call it that or not.
May 30, 2024 @ 1:08 am
…first and foremost, this is just a terrific song. that line “…tiptoed at 4.1 in 08”, the whole setting and the way it is produced make it a contemporary folk song and his delivery does the rest. however, you could make the basic song into almost anything from country to metal if you changed the singer/band and the production, it’s that good basically.
warner was just being smart, fast and doing their job, realising what can be commercially achieved with quality material like this, especially, since seeing another superstar that works on both sides of the fence and beyond – like post malone at the moment – taking on an unusual material (for him) and smashing it out of the habitual ball park right to the top of the charts.
zach bryan should actually be happy about warners decision and timely action. like luke combs with “fast car” he’s accidentally (?) widening the musical scope for gen z music fans well into dylan territory with this one and pleasing old dylan fans at the same time. that is a great achievement, not least for himself he’ll find out soon enough. and since he does not yet know himself really what he wants to be seen and heard as, he might as well leave it to those with a clearer idea. perhaps, he should just remember his navy days when assembling bombs and missiles and didn’t have to worry, where they get dropped eventually. anything that really mattered was hitting the target. same here, i guess.
May 30, 2024 @ 6:20 am
Seems like a publicity stunt to get people talking, which has apparently worked. I’ve tried several times to listen to this guy but I just don’t understand the appeal of what he’s trying to do.
May 30, 2024 @ 8:22 am
Years ago an artist would have been applauded for saying something like this. Not sure what they payoff for this would be if it’s a “publicity stunt.” Maybe he doesn’t actually want to be considered a pop star.
May 30, 2024 @ 10:05 am
Influencers are doing it now. A lot of them are using rage bait to get views. They fake and record a whole scenario; people see it and are mad. Thinking someone could apply this same technique elsewhere is not a stretch. You could be right, and he is being truthful about his feelings, but I have a hard time believing much of what this guy says anymore.
May 30, 2024 @ 12:53 pm
I understand that point, Trig. My favorite artist of all time, Waylon Jennings, got to a point in his career where he said what he wanted to say and let the chips fall where they may. Once he reached that point in his career, he did things his way on his time, and didn’t much care what anyone thought. He also recorded in a period where most all music was categorized and stayed there.
Bryan is recording in a period where a lot of gray area exists, and with a lot of record labels trying to eliminate categories for the purpose of mainstream plays and downloads. He’s also recording in this social media period of time, where he can make comments like this and get a million likes and fifty-thousand comments in a matter of hours. I’d love to see an analysis of how many streams of the song he has received since he posted the comments. Whatever his purpose might have been, he is likely a winner either way.
May 30, 2024 @ 1:01 pm
Honestly, this is just not that big of a deal. It really didn’t cause any kind of national stir. Zach Bryan is on social media all the time saying stuff. The reason I chose to highlight it is because I felt it was important to put in print how Zach Bryan characterizes his own music, and how he feels about people calling it “pop.”
I also wanted to add a little historical context, and speak to why his label probably sent it to pop as opposed to country. To me, this is just as much a country radio issue as it is about whatever Zach Bryan said.
Zach Bryan is making news all the time. I just rarely choose to cover it, because people go so apoplectic just by seeing his name. But I felt like this highlighted an important discussion about genre, radio, and Zach Bryan’s place in it, regardless how anyone feels about him or his music.
May 30, 2024 @ 1:13 pm
Understood! Keep doing your great work!
May 30, 2024 @ 7:51 am
I don’t care whether they want to call it pop or country or whatever, if it sounds good and I like it, that is enough for me. It matters not what chart it appear on. I am really not sure where I would place Zach’s music but I do like it.
May 30, 2024 @ 8:18 am
pop radio currently, when it’s not Doja Cat sounding pop is Noah Kahan sounding folk fare..Zach and his team know exactly what they are doing
May 31, 2024 @ 2:32 pm
The idea that Zach or his team plan out anything is laughable. The guy is a PR nightmare and releases whenever he wants in huge quantities. This wasn’t some publicity stunt.
May 30, 2024 @ 8:55 am
I can 100% hear Pink Skies on “pop” or “top 40” radio. Much in the vein of Lumineers, or Mumford and Sons, Zach’s music is completely accessible and digestible for a wide range of (mostly) young people. That is why Something In Orange is/was as popular as anything on “pop” radio. At this point, I don’t think he has a say. He is (pop)ular. I still avoid it.
May 31, 2024 @ 7:21 am
I sadly had to write off Zach when I realized he doesn’t perform “Something in the Orange” live any more. As you pointed out Trigger, it wasn’t just a major song for ZB, it was a HUGE song on its own and without radio promotion behind it.
You can’t ask fans to pay $$$$ and not “dance with the ones that brung you.” It’s unfair to the fans who discovered him through that hit, and it’s bad business. It can turn people off and come off as selfish. I think at this young stage in his career, he needs to still play a two-year-old song
June 2, 2024 @ 10:31 am
Trig,
I love all of the discussions of genre. It’s so fascinating to me how differently things are framed now, especially when I talk about it with my high school students in class.
I’m relatively young (30 years old) and I remember being asked “What kind of music do you listen to?” And my answer was always country, then I would list off some artists I like.
When I talk to kids about music now, they don’t lead off with a genre in the same way. They instead just lead off with a list of artists to cover a variety of genres. I teach in a very rural and agrarian, mostly white and Hispanic community. This is the kind of area where you would expect country music to reign.
I wonder if this also a bleed over from tik tok and the continued irrelevancy of country radio? My students do not feel particularly beholden to any genres. I let them make Spotify playlists to run in our welding classes and they’ll have Alan Jackson, George Strait, Zach Bryan, Shaboozey, That Mexican OT, Turnpike, Banda MS, and Tyler Childers all on the same playlist without a second thought.
June 2, 2024 @ 11:32 am
I definitely think there is an age gap when it comes to Zach Bryan, with some exceptions. That’s one of the reason when I post anything about him, comments sections fill up with people complaining about him, but he’s headlining every festival, and performs to the most enthusiastic crowds you will find in all of music. And yes, I think how people consume music these days is part of this. It probably helps that Zach isn’t so defined by genre. But I think even younger consumers distinguish the music of Zach Bryan with hip-hop or more conventional “pop” stars.
I have a big article on all of this coming up.
June 2, 2024 @ 12:09 pm
It’s all anecdotal I know, but I don’t think kids think of Zach Bryan as hip hop or pop, or even associate them along that way. I don’t think they think of genres the same way we do.
I think your Dewey decimal system was fun to read through and I agreed with it, but I think kids are more likely to be genre agnostic and not worry about categorizing things. They’re very much into how music makes them feel. Whenever I ask them what they like about x, y, z, they say things like “It’s a vibe’ or “It’s a bop”.
Regardless, I am very interested in your upcoming article. Always love to read your thoughts. Good stuff!
June 2, 2024 @ 4:07 pm
Zach Bryan is insufferable and will be totally irrelvant by 2027
June 2, 2024 @ 4:10 pm
This is the same thing people were saying about Zach in 2019 about 2024.
June 3, 2024 @ 5:56 am
Artists want all the resources of a Major label and none of the bureaucracy. He insists on being a headline and nothing more.
June 3, 2024 @ 6:14 pm
Music has bled over into different genres since forever. I’ll never understand what anyone sees in this guy or his boring, cliched music.
June 4, 2024 @ 2:30 pm
I understand, and his music shouldn’t work, but it does, and it works very well, in spite of being so ordinary on the surface.
June 5, 2024 @ 6:50 am
What an awful song to release, probably why it has been picked up as pop cuz pop is ass and so is that song.
He could’ve released a pretty great song the Friday of Memorial Day weekend that people could’ve been singing along to all summer. Instead it’s that weird artsy trash about boring people and funerals.
June 5, 2024 @ 10:00 am
Thanks for the article.
I can’t stand his music even though I’ve tried hard by listening to a whole lot of it. I don’t like the songs, production or backing band.
Happy for those that do which seems to be many.