Challenging The Stigma That Good Musicians Can’t Have Day Jobs

One of the things most every independent music fan should want for their favorite independent music artists is for them to be able to put together a sustainable music career where they can support themselves via their music, have health insurance and at least a semblance of financial security, and maybe even own a house and be able to support a family one day. You also want them to be able to make a living through music so they keep making the music you love.
But so often, deciding to become a musician comes with a significant amount of sacrifice. For some it might be difficult to impossible to find that sustainability level while still holding onto their integrity, especially in the music industry in 2026 when you have surging touring costs, more competition for attention than ever, AI’s impending disruptive if not devastating effects, and mainstream artists overshadowing the more worthy independent ones.
It’s been stigmatized over the years for a performer to have a second job, if not an entirely separate career while pursuing music on the side. Whether it’s fair or not, some perceive that working a second job makes you a second-class musician. But increasingly, it’s actually the path that makes the most sense, allows the pressure to “make it” in the music business to be alleviated to some extent, and can allow artists to make the music they want, when they want, without having to write the songs or play the gigs they otherwise would have to just to pay the bills. The musician/second job combination might also be what allows them to be homeowners, husbands, wives, and mothers/fathers.
On the 5th Episode of the songwriting showcase The Hook, Grammy-nominated songwriter and bluegrass musician Tony Kamel was the featured performer and guest panelist. After being a professional musician for nine years with the bluegrass band Wood and Wire and doing quite well compared to others, he decided a few years ago to start another business so he could be at home more, while not quitting music entirely, but still pursuing it on his own terms.
“For nine years, it’s all I did,” Tony Kamel explained. “It was the only way I made money. And I really feel like it’s a true privilege to have any point in your life when you can make that your only source of income. But then I started having kids, frankly. And I love being a dad, and I want to be around like my dad was. And I do love to travel and I still do. I’ll go out once a month, hop on a plane and play a couple of shows, which I adore doing. But I also love coming home.”
The truth is, a lot of your favorite artists probably have second jobs, or entire careers that you might not know about. Part of the reason for this is because they hide it, feeling like they’re lesser than their full-time peers. It’s not something they promote or post about on Instagram. But as the occupation of music gets tougher—especially as the population of Gen X and older Millennial performers age—the stigma surrounding the musician with another job is something that should be questioned, if not vanquished. If nothing else, working another job is a sign a musician puts their art and integrity first.
“It took a little time to figure out how to do both, and give as much energy to both, but it freed up the artistic part of my brain,” Tony Kamel continued. “It really stifles me to make it the only way I make money … If you manage to weather whatever the music industry is now, and you’re out there playing a lot and you’re making good money doing it, good for you. But I take issue with people saying that you can’t do both. You can’t have another source of income. I think that’s wrong. I think you should do whatever serves your music career and your family. If you’re an artist, you should do what serves your art. And your art will be better, because you’ll be more relaxed about it.”
You can see the full interview below.
The reason some believe that having a day job is bad for a musician is because it implies they’re not talented or good enough to pursue music full-time. “Don’t quite your day job” is the quip. But with the inverted talent scale that often plagues popular music with the most unskilled and untalented finding the most popularity, that’s just a foolish notion.
The Doohickeys are a country duo from California who’ve caught some buzz from mixing side-splitting comedy with addressing the real-world issues that face both independent musicians and young people in general. They do this once again with their new single “Day Jobs.”
You see us honky tonkin’, but things ain’t what they appear.
These troubadour personas, are all just smoke and mirrors.
‘Cause we can make the rent, just from playin’ these country shows.
The cost of livin’s high, and the price of music’s low.
As they reveal in the song, Doohickey Jack Hackett sounds like he’s an executive assistant, and Doohickey Haley Spence Brown tutors SAT student and also does Nanny work. They’re from Georgia and Missouri respectively, but met while attending USC in California studying film, and worked on a satirical news program together. Both probably could have lucrative professional careers if they chose to dedicate themselves to that, but choose the flexibility of other work so they can pursue music.
None of this is to say we should cease striving for our favorite musicians to be able to find that vein of attention that shoots them to the theater level where they can tour in a bus instead of a van, and keep a family fed back home, let alone become “stars.” Without another job in the way, they can spend more time pursuing the creative process. But if you’re simply playing shows or trying to write hits to pay the bills, often the creative process is suffering already.
Instead of hiding the other occupations of musicians, we should be talking about them. It often makes them more interesting, relatable, and human. Because after all, most all of us are just slogging away at what we have to do each day, biding out time until what we really want to do presents itself. Sometimes pursuing your dream means doing something else to get there. Some of the best music ever made is about that very thing.
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July 9, 2026 @ 7:44 am
Whatever it takes to pay rent and put food on the table, while enabling you to make art — do it. Times are tough for artists. Should be no stigma at all attached to this. I actually find it very interesting to learn what other jobs a musician may have.
July 9, 2026 @ 8:01 am
Don’t quit your day jobs.
July 9, 2026 @ 9:02 am
Why are you even commenting here? Everything you post seems intended to piss in someone else’s cornflakes. Are you really that lonely and desperate for attention that you want people to be mean to you? Go find something that you enjoy.
July 9, 2026 @ 9:38 am
Big Jilm is a fixture here.
July 9, 2026 @ 9:46 am
A “fixture”? More like one of the mentally ill people who taken advantage of the open comment forum here to chase off sane commenters like a deranged homeless person on the street corner. And if you think the stuff you see is wild, you can’t even imagine what I delete.
July 9, 2026 @ 8:03 am
I watch a lot of youtube videos about woodworking or aquariums and over the years I have been more and more impressed by the creativity and quality of what some people (seem to be able to) produce by themselves with not too expensive equipment.
I wonder whether musicians can do more of that. Set up a youtube channel which can also be seen as one prominent way to have some sort of online presence, where a musician can publish their music. It could also be seen as a way to advertise oneself, and get asked to do paid gigs.
Perhaps student film makers can be asked to make some video for a couple of hundred bucks to go with a song. Live recordings at a bar might even be possible to show on a youtube channel. And if I am not mistaken, at a certain level of viewers or number of videos one can get monetized (if that’s the correct term) and earn some money from people watching (if I am not mistaken).
There is a great rendition of a musician named James Reed, where he performs a song titled “She’s of the hook again” which seems recorded at some bar or center and the quality is pretty decent for my ears at least. The entire scene with the older people walking around, and some shouting something at certain points, fit the entire vibe. It’s almost a complete music video to got with the music, I would guess for free.
July 9, 2026 @ 8:59 am
There are some performers who’ve been able to do well on YouTube. Conrad Fisher who is a regular contributor here has built a business around building his career up via YouTube. But for every successful YouTube channel, there’s 1,000 that aren’t. You really had to be established before the pandemic to make it work. Not saying you couldn’t start one now and be successful, but just like music, there’s thousands and thousands of others like you will less than 100 followers trying to get traction too. Ironically, the creative economy and the amount of people pursuing it has made it more difficult for any individual artist to break out.
July 9, 2026 @ 9:31 am
Yeah, I guess it’s difficult to buillt a business around it or make lots of money but I reason it’s a reletively cheap and easy way to try something and add something. I assume it just takes an e-mail adress and some time, but I am no expert.
I also think it’s something that might be worthwhile just as a way to have some online presence (or whatever the appropriate term is) so people can put a face to a name, see and hear some songs, and maybe have acess to some extra information and an e-mail adress (which are sometimes present on the youtube channel somewhere).
I think Jesse Welles is doing okay on youtube looking at the views- and channel member numbers. Some of his videos seem to me to be pretty basic with him just performing outside somewhere, which might be something more musicians can relatively easily do (?). I think “only1noah” may also be an example of someone who may have benefited from being on youtube and simply posting videos of him playing (he has that one great and original and creative cover of “Sexy and I know it” from 14 years ago).
July 9, 2026 @ 9:48 am
Jesse Welles is obviously a dramatic success story, but you can’t use that as an example because it’s such an outlier. For every Jesse Welles, there’s 50,000 aspiring musicians recording themselves out in the woods and getting 26 views. The volume of this material is the reason and actually super talented artist trying to get traction can’t get heard through the noise.
July 9, 2026 @ 9:04 am
Isn’t that kind of the thing now? The way to get discovered as a musician or filmmaker or whatever is YouTube or Soundcloud or band camp?
July 9, 2026 @ 9:10 am
I think you’re thinking more of TikTok and Instagram, at least when it comes to music. But even the TikTok discovery mechanism has dramatically diminished over the last few years. The realy story in music is that NOBODY is being discovered, no artists are breaking out. Ella Langley has been the huge exception to that rule, but the Grammys just expanded their “New Artist” eligibility because it’s often taking five years now just for an artists to develop into a “new” one.
Film is a bit different, and I’m no expert. But yes, filmmakers now are starting on YouTube, then getting green lit for bigger budget productions.
July 9, 2026 @ 8:45 am
“Starving artist” is a trope, not a mark of quality. Kris Kristofferson wrote some of the best songs ever written while working a bunch of different jobs to pay the bills. Most of your favorite novels were written on nights and weekends by somebody paying the bills with a 9-5. Etc.
July 9, 2026 @ 8:48 am
I’ve been in and around this business for 50 yrs. And I know for a fact that 40 yrs ago, if you didn’t “make it” by the time you were 30, 99% of musicians just quit and got a serious day job (if they didn’t already have one) like I did at 29. “Making it” back then meant you had a major label deal and you could sustain some kind of success over a period of time from royalties and constant touring. Everyone I knew on a major was on some kind of “salary” as well. Oh sure, there might have been some “independent full timers” in various genres eking out a living, but it certainly wasn’t a comfortable one by any means and rarely lasted long.
I’ve been watching our Midwest Country scene with, let’s just say, 30 or 40 artists on a daily basis for close to 10 yrs now, and very few of them are “full timers.” The ones that are have to play a large percentage of “Solo acoustic” gigs, which doesn’t help the people in their band at all. That’s one reason, as Rick Beato put it…”there are a lot fewer bands these days.” I’m out in the wild on a weekly basis watching our National independent favorites, as well as my locals, and I just think to myself “The math doesn’t add up to a profit for anyone”. A “$5.00 cover charge”?? We were getting that and more in 1983!!! I’m afraid to ask my friends how much they’re getting for a gig because I would cry. They’re teachers, truck drivers, and painters by day, hell, one is even a dental hygienist, but they write my favorite songs, and I love and support them any way I can and always will.
July 9, 2026 @ 9:01 am
One plus I would think about having a steady 9-5 is not having to sacrifice the type of music you want to make, worrying about hitting it big to pay the bills.
How many young traditional country music artists caved into the bro country sound last decade trying to cash in.
July 9, 2026 @ 9:10 am
Thumbs up for the Doohickeys. Great, fun song.
July 9, 2026 @ 9:41 am
I saw The Doohickeys open for Dale Watson not too long ago and even though i really, really, wanted the new Dale Watson record (one week before it was out) I bought the Doohickey’s album to support these young musicians.
July 9, 2026 @ 9:58 am
“(…) I bought the Doohickey’s album to support these young musicians.”
This ties in to another thought I had which is whether it would be interesting, feasible, and worthwile for relatively unknown musicians to produce a small amount of vynil records. I think vynil is cool again, also with some younger people, and the size of a vynil record also makes for a great art piece (or whatever term is appropriate) in one’s home in some way.
If vynil records were available, I could see how some people might buy a record to support the musician (like you may have done if I understand correctly). Even when not all tracks are great, the idea of supporting, and the possible function of the vynil record as an art piece or something to remember a certain night at the bar might be why some people might buy a vynil record when available somewhere.