Review – Episode 4 of the Ken Burns Country Music Documentary
The conflicts and concerns that roil country music today are the same concerns that have always been present in the genre—creative freedom vs. commercial application, traditional vs. contemporary, popularity vs. authenticity, and the push and pull of influences outside of country music affecting what happens inside of it. Or at least it’s always been that way since the 1950’s when a few heavy handed producers in Chet Atkins and Owens Bradley set up shop on 16th Avenue in Nashville, later to be known as Music Row, and began implementing a system of music manufacturing that is still very much in place today some 70 years later, and in the same location.
The fourth installment of the eight-part Ken Burns documentary on country music laid out in no uncertain terms how country music became a well-ordered business in the aftermath of the death of Hank Williams, and during the rise of rock n’ roll as the most popular genre in America, putting pressure on country music’s role in American culture. Country music stations across the United States initially went from over 600 down to only 85 during the rise of rock. The CMA was formed specifically to deal with the dwindling popularity of the genre, and Chet Atkins and Owen Bradley began to implement a more genteel style of country pop in the studio to deal with the crisis, bringing in strings and chorus lines to form “The Nashville Sound,” which Chet famously illustrated by jangling the change in his pocket. It was all about the money.
Meanwhile country music became married with the emerging rock ‘n roll sound through the rise of rockabilly, and the influence of Sun Studios in Memphis. This is where Johnny Cash emerged from, and it’s the reason Elvis Presley is in the Country Music Hall of Fame. Early on, whether you considered Elvis country or rock was a matter of opinion. He was cutting songs from Billy Monroe and Carl Perkins, and Sam Phillips of Sun Studios was bragging, “I knocked the shit out of the color line.” Wanda Jackson also came into the picture, and whether you called it country, rockabilly, or downright rock n’ roll, it was setting crowds on fire.
Episode 4 called “I Can’t Stop Loving You” may have been titled after a song popularized by Ray Charles, and written by Don Gibson (who received curiously little attention in the two hours), but the emerging story of Johnny Cash and the popularity of Patsy Cline played the pivotal roles in the installment. The devoutness Cash felt to his first wife Vivian, who he sang to in the song “I Walk The Line,” would soon be replaced by the passion found in “Ring Of Fire” as an affair was kindled with June Carter, who wrote the famous song with Merle Kilgore. Cash’s early music, unlike his Nashville counterparts, had the beat and soul of Memphis behind it.
But even though many artists adapted their sounds during the era to survive—either toward rock n’ roll or The Nashville Sound—some refused to. As Peter Coyote explains, Ray Price’s response was to double down and stick closer to his country roots, adding more fiddles to his outfit as opposed to taking them out. Jean Shepard also refused to surrender from what she believed was the authentic country sound where fiddle and steel guitar must be present. And Loretta Lynn, who is also introduced in the episode, brought her four kids and a true country songs from Butcher Holler via the Pacific Northwest to Nashville, sparking up a friendship with Patsy Cline, and starting what would turn out to be a Hall of Fame career.
Willie Nelson was also introduced in Episode 4—the opening being his role as the songwriter of Patsy’s massive hit, “Crazy.” And as country artists were beginning to lose control over their music, Ray Charles, who had just won creative control over his after 10 years under his recording contract, decided out-of-the-blue to cut a country music record, which Willie Nelson gave credit for spreading the love of country like never before. Vince Gill said in the film, “That was a huge record for us, maybe even more so than for Ray for us to be able to hang our hat on how soulful this music could be.”
As perilous as the period covered in this episode starts off for country, it ends up becoming more hopeful as crowds start to crave older songs. As pointed out, it ironically was the folk outfit The Kingston Trio and their song “Tom Dooley” originally from the 20’s that won the first country music Grammy Award. It was a precursor to a shift in the younger audience yearning for an older sound embodied in the emerging folk revival that country would also be a beneficiary of. “Nostalgia has been one of the basic staples of country music throughout its history because there was a realistic awareness that the old way of life was disappearing,” writer Bill C. Malone of the book Country Music USA explained. It’s Malone’s book that the documentary is loosely based around.
Just as conflict has been an eternal in country music, so has tragedy. Episode 3 concluded with the death of “The Hillbilly Shakespeare,” Hank Williams. Episode 4 tested out your tear ducts with the passing of Patsy Cline, Cowboy Copas, and Hawkshaw Hawkins in Patsy’s 4-passenger plane on route back to Nashville from of all things, a benefit concert for a DJ in Kansas City. The country music community had come together to help one of its own, and it ended in the greatest tragedy of country music at that time.
The detail with which the story of the Patsy Cline plane crash unfolds is what makes this particular account in Country Music so moving. Jean Shepard was 8 months pregnant with Hawkshaw Hawkins’ baby at the time of the crash. Songwriter and performer Roger Miller was the one who first found the crash site after he had joined first responders looking for wreckage. And as Ken Burns and his production crew have done numerous times in the series, it’s the photos that really drive home the story—Hawkshaw’s guitar strap found in the debris, the image of Patsy’s body wrapped in a white sheet being taken from the crash site on a stretcher.
It’s not just the music that makes country such compelling subject matter, and something that rises beyond a simple genre designation for a certain type of music. It’s the stories of the artists, and the elongated narrative unfolding like an epic almost too unbelievable to be true, full of all the love and tragedy of a fictional novel. It’s also what Ken Burns continues to capture on one compelling episode after another in this film.
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Episodes 1 thru 4 can now be streamed online. The documentary pauses for a few days, and will resume on Sunday, September 22nd.
Cap'n TeleTwang
September 19, 2019 @ 8:56 am
Thanks for these reviews. I’m two episodes behind. Recording and watching later. But still enjoy reading your reviews ahead of time. Gets me hyped up to see the next episode.
King Honky Of Crackershire
September 19, 2019 @ 9:15 am
“If you ain’t got a steel guitar or a fiddle in your band, you ain’t got no Country band.”
-Ollie Imogene “Jean” Shepard (1933-2016)
Trigger
September 19, 2019 @ 9:51 am
I thought it was funny when earlier in the episode when someone (can’t remember who off the top of my head) made the point that artists don’t see genre. Seen this many times before as well. These people don’t know many of the country artists I do. Jean climbed that hill early in her career, and never came off of it until the day she died.
wayne
September 19, 2019 @ 12:34 pm
Jean always said it straight. Gotta love Jean.
Mars3
September 19, 2019 @ 5:26 pm
The sections featuring Jean were the best part of an outstanding episode. When I was selecting music for my morning commute today, she faced no competition….
Michelle
September 20, 2019 @ 9:25 am
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King Honky Of Crackershire
September 19, 2019 @ 9:28 am
The title of the episode didn’t make much sense.
I’m no Johnny Cash fan, never have been. But I had no idea what a despicable husband and father he was. His adultery with June has always been romanticized by the industry, but he stabbed a good woman in the back who loved him. What a piece of crap.
The saddest moment in this episode to me is the one where you see the picture of a field, which transitions to a suburb. Along with Chet’s comment about the change in his pocket, those photos say it all.
And the CMA makes a lot more sense, now that I know that it’s very first President was an interloper.
King Honky Of Crackershire
September 19, 2019 @ 9:43 am
I also find it odd that we’re now at 1963, nearly a decade into his career, and we’ve heard nothing about George Jones.
Trigger
September 19, 2019 @ 10:01 am
Actually George Jones has been mentioned and pictured a couple of times, but he gets tons of attention in the next two episodes, which is when his career really took off. Yes, some people have not, and will not get proper due in this documentary. But folks need to be a little patient when it comes to certain names.
truth5
September 19, 2019 @ 10:22 am
I agree Honky,
I haven’t watched this episode yet, but sounds like Cash is already overly the focus here. Here we are in mid 1950’s and Burns is focused on Johnny Cash playing rockabilly with Elvis in Memphis, meanwhile the career of the GOAT Jones is starting with his extreme influence of Hank Williams/Roy Acuff/Left Frizzel early recordings. How do you get through 1963 and no true mention of Jones? By late 50’s/early 60’s Jones pretty much has developed his own signature vocals, and none of this has uncovered. By 1965 Jones is already being unanimously called the greatest country singer alive, a title he would never really lose until his death (although his voice started to decline in early 2000’s). 1963 forward, Buck Owens should get a heavy focus as his career was skyrocketing at this point. mid to late 60’s is the rise of Haggard as well. I need to watch this episode and the next, but I’ve seen where this was going. The marketing of the persona of Cash continues.
Trigger
September 19, 2019 @ 11:21 am
Johnny Cash was only mentioned once or twice in brief passing during the first three episodes. In the fourth where he was touted as one of the primary focal points, Patsy Cline got just as much attention as he did, and the episode ended focusing on Patsy, so it felt like she was the bigger story line. The next episode will focus a lot of Johnny Cash as well, but up to this point, I have not felt like he’s given more attention than he deserves. His ties to the Sun Studios sound make him essential subject matter, and he’s the guy that ties the earliest forms of country with The Carter Family to modern day country. I’ll get back with you at the end of the series, but so far, I don’t feel like The Man in Black is overshadowing anybody else in the series. Hank Williams is the only one who basically gets his own (mostly) dedicated episode.
Michael Cosner
September 20, 2019 @ 8:15 am
Totally agree. I was also concerned that it may become “Cash-centric”, but so far I don’t think so. Still surprised though, there’s been only a couple passing mentions of George, but I do expect that to change in the next 2 episodes. Being from NC and playing the Don Gibson Theatre quite a bit, I’m hopeful that Don Gibson will get more attention. His catalog is incredible. If everyone got the attention they deserved, this thing would be 24 episodes!
Gabman1234567
September 20, 2019 @ 9:22 pm
Yes, I was wondering the same thing about Buck Owens. He was so instrumental to Country Music, especially as Bakersfield was such a contrast from Nashville.
Trigger
September 20, 2019 @ 9:43 pm
Again, George Jones is covered extensively in the next episode. Buck Owens and the Bakersfield Sound are covered in the next episode. I can understand the criticisms by some for the performers who got passed by, or who were only mentioned in passing in the documentary. But the majority of criticism I’ve seen for the film is railing on it for not covering people who are being covered in the subsequent episodes. This happened with Ernest Tubb, and Left Frizzell. Episode 4 was establishing the “Nashville Sound.” Now the table is set to introduce the Bakersfield Sound that ran counter to it in Episode 5.
Mary Ellen
September 22, 2019 @ 8:03 pm
No mention of Tammy Wynette either
Trigger
September 22, 2019 @ 8:12 pm
Tammy Wynette is covered extensively in Episode 6. Continue to be puzzled why folks are so impatient with this documentary before letting it play out. Every episode have been greeted with, “Why didn’t they cover so and so.” Episode 4 was Buck Owens, and viola, he got a ton of face time in Episode 5. Patience.
Trigger
September 19, 2019 @ 9:57 am
When I heard the writer of the film, Dayton Duncan, speak in Nashville last year about the film, he said the most excruciating part of putting it together was editing it down, and taking parts out that they felt essential to include, but just couldn’t due to time constraints. My guess is this episode had a deep dive into the work of Don Gibson, and specifically how it interfaced with Ray Charles, and they simply had to cut it out for time. I think that’s the reason the title is what it is.
There’s just no way you’re going to be able to cover everybody, and as storytellers, you have to stick to the most compelling narratives. I think they could have spent a bit less time on Elvis in this episode, and given Don Gibson at least 45 seconds more, but that’s the way it goes. And the longer the film is, and the more ground it covers, the more it’s going to seem like some people get snubbed.
As a content creator, I can sympathize with this. You can’t cover everything. And the more albums I review, the louder the criticisms get that I didn’t cover THIS record, or THAT record. Don Gibson should have been covered more in this episode, especially since they named it after one of his songs. But don’t take that as a sign that they didn’t want to, or even did and had to cut it down for time.
Michelle
September 20, 2019 @ 9:28 am
“You can’t cover everything.”. Yet, they sure focused a lot on Elvis.
John R Baker
September 22, 2019 @ 9:09 am
That’s true but I think the short thrift given to Merle Travis and a few others is indicative of one problem in the series. So as a musician the one real criticism I have ,particularly in comparison to his Jazz series, is that they tend to edit by focusing almost entirely on personalities, culture and related drama. Throughout the Jazz series they always had Marsalis and others giving specifically musical explanations as well. And though we get superlatives about particularly great players like Monroe and Scruggs they don’t dig far into what makes the music work. Merle is only really mentioned in relation to Chet and they don’t really dig very far into what made Chet so exceptional either. If one tries to learn any country, folk, or bluegrass guitar they run into Travis picking immediately. It’s a fundamental particularly in how country fits together with blues and jazz.
dukeroberts
September 19, 2019 @ 10:23 am
Famous men are quite often despicable when it comes to being husbands and fathers. It shouldn’t surprise you. I’m just surprised you don’t like Cash’s music. What the heck???
albert
September 19, 2019 @ 11:06 am
”Famous men are quite often despicable when it comes to being husbands and fathers. ”
…couple things on that point ….and I’m not defending anyone’s behaviours here.
an artistic gift , inherent ambition , fame , wealth , ego , the public’s adulation , the willingness of the opposite sex , constant praise and an environment of yes-men is a powerful combination which can undermine almost anyone’s ‘better intentions’ . ANYONE’S .
no one can anticipate the way this mixture can alter their ‘standards’ .
” an artist creates his own moral universe ” ….not sure who this quote is credited to but it NAILS the circumstance for a lot of these movie stars , athletes ,politicians and entertainers .
secondly , we never get to hear , in this instance , Cash’s side of things .in a lot of these scenarios ( Hank Williams …even June Carter ) there are other people involved .if Cash is guilty its only because June Carter was .
we are all , at times , prisoners of our emotions and our behaviours can and do reflect that . some of us can keep them in check . some of us are in situations which make that a very very difficult thing to do . there is nothing so hard as being away for extended periods from a spouse and a family and it can create profound loneliness and a sense of isolation . we’re human . we have needs and when they are not met , not all of us ‘ do the right thing ‘ . many of us lose sight of ‘ the right thing’ .
thirdly , in a situation like Cash’s , do we really know what his relationship with his wife was on an emotional and physical level ? do we ever know that about ANYONE’S relationship ? perhaps as he evolved as an artist and fell victim to ‘crutches ‘ the emotional landscape changed on the home-front . or perhaps it was a two way street , as it most certainly is and was for so many ‘ ideal ‘ relationships .
again ….not condoning any behaviour here . for me , the manageable and unforgivable aspects to these trysts is the public nature of them when they , perhaps, don’t need to be public. however , our sick , celebrity-worshiping culture has an insatiable appetite for all things celebrity so perhaps some of the blame for the unnecessary hurtfulness lies with US as consumers of this kind of ‘ entertainment ‘ . we create a demand for this stuff and pretty-much guarantee that someone who can profit from that demand will do so .
Kevin Smith
September 19, 2019 @ 11:28 am
Wow Albert,
You nailed what I was thinking, albeit a bit more wordy. Next to no musicians ought to be role models for anything other than music. I didn’t have the heart to remind Honky that Lefty was jailed for sex with a minor while married to someone else!
And as far as Cash goes, he wasn’t the singer Jones was, not even close, but his name and legacy ascend far beyond the confines of country music. According to Kristofferson, Cash would be on the musical Mt Rushmore, that’s how big his legacy is. But hey that’s just the opinion of a no talent interloper. ( sarcasm)
King Honky Of Crackershire
September 19, 2019 @ 2:55 pm
Kevin,
You needn’t remind me or anyone who knows anything about Lefty, of his statutory rape and adultery. It led to one of his biggest hits. He’s one of my all-time favorites.
My criticism of Cash isn’t an apology for Lefty. But it almost sounded like Cash was proud of what he did. It’s disgraceful. I wasn’t aware of what a loving sweetheart Vivian was. Cash basically rubbed Vivian’s nose in HIS sh!@.
Corncaster
September 19, 2019 @ 4:45 pm
Morality and poetry and even beauty have no necessary relationship between them, at all?
If that’s the case, snuff films can be beautiful, Stalinist art is moral, and the phone book is poetic. I guess we can agree to disagree.
Artists don’t have to be good people to be successful, skillful, and productive. Nor do they have to be good to tell the truth. Even a stopped watch is right twice a day.
But can you count on it?
Kevin Smith
September 20, 2019 @ 4:40 am
Cornman,
You are correct. Many of the great artists have been tragically flawed characters and it doesn’t discredit them or their art. In the case of Cash, he was often talking about sin, redemption and salvation. It became an obsession of his. He confessed in his autobiography at feeling a lot of guilt over his past transgressions, but his faith helped him find a relative peace in his later years.
My point was basically if you put the magnifying lens on the greats, most all of them look bad. And personally, musicians aren’t God’s to me. I enjoy their art, but choose not to emulate the lifestyle. Willie phrased it well ” Night life ain’t no good life, but it’s my life.”
Ray
September 21, 2019 @ 6:41 am
Well spoken, Albert! Don’t really need to add anything to your comments.
CAROL MURPHY
September 19, 2019 @ 9:40 am
While I respect and admire Johnny Cash’s music, I was afraid (at first) that last night’s episode was going to be strictly a Cash biography, Glad I was wrong. So many great artists were intorduced…or re-introduced. Especially enjoyed the Everly Brothers segments. Listening to their music in context ( to the times), you can really apprciate their country roots.
BanditDarville
September 19, 2019 @ 9:41 am
The short segment on “Long Black Veil” was a highlight for me. The images they used while the song played were amazing, yet haunting. A perfect match for the song in my opinion.
Stephanie
September 19, 2019 @ 3:36 pm
I don’t know if I should already know this, but what were the images from!? They stood out to me as well. There was one I wish I could purchase a print of.
Charlie
September 19, 2019 @ 9:44 am
‘( . . . who received curiously little attention in the two hours)’
Now that the interlopers have arrived and the split in Country Music has been instigated, I think we’ll see more comments like the above, as we see the choices the producers made to follow the different threads from this point on.
That picture of the CMA members looked almost chilling, didn’t it? Like somebody was coming to foreclose on my house.
Doug T
September 19, 2019 @ 9:50 am
The name of the episode was I Can’t Stop Loving You. The episode ended with the song Sweet Dreams. Don Gibson’s story should have been told. A 2nd grade drop out from Shelby NC who wrote several Country music standards.
dukeroberts
September 19, 2019 @ 10:26 am
He wrote “Oh Lonesome Me” and “I Can’t Stop Loving You” on the same damn, rainy day. The guy was fantastic.
Michael Cosner
September 20, 2019 @ 8:18 am
Yes commented on this earlier. His catalog is filled with standards.
wayne
September 19, 2019 @ 9:55 am
King Honky,
You are exactly correct in the romanticization of Cash and June. It has always been presented as the ultimate love story. In truth, June pursued Cash. Vivian is the unsung hero as it was she who went above and beyond trying to keep Cash on the straight and narrow. But June gets all the credit. Vivian’s book is a must-read and Cash offered to write a forward to it and he blessed it.
In my opinion, Cash is very important in the history of country music. However, he has benefited from the bandwagon mentality. He suffered irrelevance for several years in the eyes of many until the laster career resurrection via the Rubin works (which were very good I might add). Marty Stuart even attests to this.
Then it became fashionable for everyone and their brother to come out and gloat about how much of an influence Cash had on their (other artists’) careers. There wasn’t a rock/pop artist who was not signing their praises of him. It became the “in thing”. I do not doubt some of their sincerity, but I do doubt most of it.
This led to a further romanticization of the perfect love story. I do not know if Burns buys into this yet since I am only through the first four episodes. It is my feeling that in the fifth episode will probably finding him falling into this trap as well, though I hope I am wrong.
I have zero respect for June Cash, a ton of respect for Vivian who by all accounts was a first-class lady and a mournful empathy for Cash.
Trigger
September 19, 2019 @ 10:11 am
Give Ken Burns and Dayton Duncan credit here for telling the accurate story behind the Johnny Cash / June Carter relationship. It takes some guts to go against conventional wisdom and popularity. My guess is Episode 4 opened a lot of eyes to what actually happened between the two as opposed to the dramatic interpretations by Hollywood and others. Roasanne Cash has also been talking about this in the runup to the film.
That said, I’m not ready to crucify June Carter. It takes two to tango, and if we want to start indicting the credibility of country artists for infidelity, the line forms to the left. What is important is we don’t make bad decisions appear to be “cool” just because it makes for a good story. Ken Burns did right by Vivian and the story itself in Episode 4.
truth5
September 19, 2019 @ 10:33 am
Wayne,
I see where you’re going here, but I try not to let my feelings about someone’s personal shortcomings affect the music. Lets face it, the majority of country music legends have really struggled and had deep personal issues. Its not like Cash, Waylon, Hag, Jones, Hank, Wynette, Willie etc were exactly model citizens the majority of their adult life.
Your second point about the Cash bandwagon mania is 100% accurate. The movie, Hurt video, and American recordings all of a sudden made Cash “cool”. Cash has always been a persona and less a country singer. That’s just a fact. Cash career was hot in the late 50’s and then hot again from 63-71 (and its not just by popularity. Even when he was hot, its not like he had remarkable songwriting or singing ability). He was never a George jones, Merle Haggard talent. Hell he was never a Buck Owens, Waylon Jennings, Tammy Wynette, Lorretta Lynn talent. And I actually like Johnny Cash and some of his music, but I’m not going to go with the crowd and let the image and marketing skew the reality of his musical talent and abilities.
JM
September 19, 2019 @ 12:37 pm
Man, I really don’t get the criticism of Cash here. I can understand the argument that Merle was a better and more prolific songwriter (and he deserves his own episode). But if you don’t think ‘Folsom Prison Blues’ is one of the greatest songs in the English language, something is wrong with your wiring..
Maybe people are skeptical of Cash because he resonates with audiences far beyond country music, even to this day. Case in point is the recently-released Los Tigres del Norte ‘Live in Folsom’ documentary (and that’s a band you should pay attention to if you care about good songwriting).
Although this episode didn’t quite have the emotional impact of episode 3, the way Burns is handling all of these different stories and collaborations is masterful. I was glad to see Ray Charles in there, as well as the anecdotes between Patsy Cline and Willie. And the way the documentary continually looks forward and backward is great — you can’t talk about outlaw country without talking about the Nashville sound.
For anyone who has the DVD — are there outtakes and additional segments that cover some of the artists we’re missing here?
Bri
September 19, 2019 @ 1:31 pm
Cash didn’t even fully write Folsom Prison Blues. It was heavily based upon another song, Crescent City Blues by Gordon Jenkins. The melody, as well as most of the lyrics, are the same.
JM
September 19, 2019 @ 2:17 pm
I would say Cash’s modifications (including the famous 2nd verse) are significant, completely changing the tone and gravity of the song. And it’s not like he didn’t write plenty of other legendary material.. This feels like people are hating on him because he’s universally beloved.
Dukeroberts
September 19, 2019 @ 2:42 pm
My Blu-ray was just delivered, but it does say that there is a lot of additional material. Yay!
Stephanie
September 19, 2019 @ 3:42 pm
I feel like hating on Cash has been the in thing for a while, and the criticisms are often overblown. and I think you nailed some of the details, JM.
I don’t care who he’s trendy with or if he was often an asshole, I appreciate him on a deep level and I’ll always be a fan.
Truth5
September 19, 2019 @ 5:27 pm
The criticism of Cash is simple…. it’s based on his talent. He’s not a good singer, he has an average voice. He’s not a top tier songwriting talent either. He’s got some good songs, but his output just isn’t that impressive. He’s just not a supreme talent, he’s a persona. Hes not A George Jones, Merle Haggard, Buck Owens, Waylon Jennings, Loretta Lynn, Tammy Wynette talent and yet he gets more attention than all of them. It’s image, persona, and marketing and it has nothing to do with his singing or songwriting talent.
King Honky Of Crackershire
September 19, 2019 @ 5:44 pm
So true, Truth.
It doesn’t look like Lefty is going to get his due either, despite the fact that nobody has been more imitated.
JM
September 19, 2019 @ 6:01 pm
Also forthcoming on this thread:
Rodney Crowell “a below-average songwriter”
Hendrix “not a good guitar player”
James Brown “just a persona”
Willie Nelson “never actually hotboxed his tour bus—that’s just a myth made up by Nashville”
Jack Williams
September 20, 2019 @ 7:26 am
In 1985 Merle released the song “Kern River” and it reached #10 on the country charts. But if it was up to CBS Records executive Rick Blackburn, the song would have never been recorded at all. Blackburn hated the song, and apparently went out of his way to tell Merle as much at every opportunity he had. Then at some point, Merle had enough. Blackburn mouthed off to Merle about it, and Merle lost it.
“That’s about the third time you’ve told me that.” Haggard said, “It’s more like five times. Well, I’m about five times short of telling you to go to hell.”
Then Haggard continued:
“Who do you think you are? You’re the son-of-a-bitch that sat at that desk over there and fired Johnny Cash. Let it go down in history that you’re the dumbest son-of-a-bitch I’ve ever met.”
https://savingcountrymusic.com/10-badass-merle-haggard-moments/
I wonder what the hell got into Merle that day? Why was he bringing up the firing of Johnny Cash to point how stupid he thought Blackburn was? Who cares if he let go of Cash? Clearly, with Merle’s vocal and songwriting capabilities, you would think he’d be able to figure out how utterly pedestrian Johnny Cash was.
truth5
September 20, 2019 @ 6:37 am
Is Johnny Cash a top 25 singer or vocalist in the genre? No, I’d say he’s certainly not top 50.
Is Johnny Cash a top 25 songwriter in the genre? No
so why does Johnny Cash get more air time than the true greats of the genre?
James Hooker
September 23, 2019 @ 5:38 am
Okay, so Cash wasn’t Pavarotti or Bob fucking Dylan. What Cash WAS is a guy who, despite those glaring shortcomings, CONNECTED with an otherworldly shitpot ton of people who cared about neither of those things. To them, he was Mr. Fucking Cash.
Jack Williams
September 19, 2019 @ 2:42 pm
Cash has always been a persona and less a country singer. That’s just a fact.
No, not a fact. If you were to swap in “artist” for “persona,” I would probably agree with that opinion. But I think he was more of a country singer than a persona. Speaking for myself, I don’t buy numerous albums by people that I consider to be mainly “personas.”
Michelle
September 20, 2019 @ 9:32 am
Yea, Cash is the favorite country artist of artists who don’t listen to country music.
RD
September 20, 2019 @ 6:12 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMfj1nC3zLI
Mike Honcho
September 19, 2019 @ 10:04 am
How bad is that BoA commercial with all the people playing Wagon Wheel? They don’t even get a banjo strum before passing it on. Couldn’t even fit an Asian in there to cover their bases.
Trigger
September 19, 2019 @ 10:14 am
I’ll gladly fight through one bad commercial featuring “Wagon Wheel” at the very beginning of a two-hour program to not have to fight through four bad commercials interrupting the story every 15 minutes. Thank God for public television.
Dukeroberts
September 19, 2019 @ 2:43 pm
Unless you’re watching a fundraising program. Ugh.
Trigger
September 19, 2019 @ 2:57 pm
Oh, PBS pledge drives are the worst. Unwatchable.
dukeroberts
September 19, 2019 @ 9:39 pm
“Be sure to pledge so that you can see more programming like this…which we will only show when we want you to pledge more money to us.”
Jack Williams
September 19, 2019 @ 2:57 pm
It’s ironic that it’s that song being played, when it seems that so many people are just sick to death of it in the current day.
As I’m sure you know, the last two people (the black folks) are Amythyst Kiah (who I’m desperate to hear more from after hearing her songs on the Our Native Daughters) and the American Songster himself, Dom Flemons (formerly of Carolina Carolina Drops). I think there’s something comical about him singing a song that’s contemporary and so overdone.
Diana Harris
September 19, 2019 @ 7:04 pm
Amen!
Andrew M Halmay
September 25, 2019 @ 12:11 pm
Funny, I thought the commercial was entertaining.
Michael Cosner
September 20, 2019 @ 8:25 am
I just keep it on mute until the real show starts.
dukeroberts
September 19, 2019 @ 10:18 am
Yeah, I’m a big fan of Don Gibson, who received just that passing mention during the Ray Charles segment. Modern Sounds in Country and Western Music is admittedly my favorite album of all-time, and it was great that it was shown, but Don Gibson had a decades-lasting career in country music, which included writing some of the greatest country standards. Not featuring him at all was a bit disappointing, but perhaps he will be featured more prominently in episode 5. Even more disappointing was the complete lack of any mention at all of Johnny Horton, who not only recorded several “story songs” (a sub-genre which was featured), but who also died tragically in the time period of the episode, and who was also coincidentally married to the same woman to whom Hank Williams was married when HE died. That seems like a tidbit that bears mentioning. George Jones will be featured more prominently in coming episodes, I’m sure.
Kevin Smith
September 19, 2019 @ 11:18 am
I agree on Johnny Horton AKA The Singing Fisherman. I have all of his records. I REALLY love his stuff like Honky Tonk Hardwood Floor, Honky Tonk Man, Wild One, Ole Slewfoot, I’m Comin Home and my absolute favorite One Woman Man which Jones also nicely covered. Yeah, he was also a very close friend of Cash. In fact, the two of them marketed a fishing lure called Ol’ Fireball that sold modestly. There’s much more to the Hank similarities, it’s downright creepy to read about. He was a tortured soul for sure, but a great rockabilly and storytelling artist all the same.
Michael Latham
September 22, 2019 @ 7:53 pm
Johnny Horton’s life needs a documentary all of its own. “Creepy” is a good description, but other words like talented, and influential also apply. Dwight Yaokum surely must have some words to say about The Singing Fisherman. “North to Alaska” is an underrated great country death song.
Kevin Smith
September 23, 2019 @ 7:28 am
Yep. I think you mean Springtime in Alaska, but North to Alaska is great as well. I mentioned those songs in my list because too many folks only associate him with Battle of New Orleans. He also was a great honky-tonker and rockabilly guy. Don’t know if you are a Chuck Mead fan or remember his previous band BR549, but Chuck has done a lot to keep Hortons songs alive. He always covers at least a couple at all his live gigs.
JG
September 19, 2019 @ 10:22 am
Still liked last night’s episode a lot, but it seemed more fragmented and scattered than the previous three. This meant there were a lot of artists who got a little attention, and even those who were ostensibly the focus (Johnny Cash and Patsy Cline) didn’t receive as much attention as I thought they might. This isn’t really a criticism, since I appreciated the wider lens of the episode, but it felt less narratively cohesive than the previous installments.
But now that Loretta Lynn, Merle Haggard, and Johnny Cash have been introduced, I think this episode served as table setting for the next phase of the series. According to my cable guide, the time frame covered in the next two episodes is only four years each, which should allow them to do a deeper dive into those years (the time frame expands again for the final two episodes).
albert
September 19, 2019 @ 11:12 am
”Still liked last night’s episode a lot, but it seemed more fragmented and scattered than the previous three. This meant there were a lot of artists who got a little attention, ”
agreed ….I think to much ground was covered in too little time …..I was kinda spinning at times …
still …..it is what it is and I’m very much enjoying the education and reminders .
wayne
September 19, 2019 @ 10:47 am
Trig & Truth,
I agree on both accounts.
By the way, I still keep getting “page not working” and it takes several tries for me to post. I assume the problem is on my end but sometimes when my reply does post it is moved to the bottom of the page.
Trigger
September 19, 2019 @ 11:05 am
Hey Wayne,
I’ll look into the posting problem. Anyone else experiencing this?
wayne
September 19, 2019 @ 11:09 am
Thank you. I am sure it is on my end.
wayne
September 19, 2019 @ 10:58 am
Honcho,
Ha Ha. I thought the same thing. Another subliminal message on diversity. Though I will put up with it as I am thoroughly enjoying the episodes.
Mike Honcho
September 19, 2019 @ 2:29 pm
Ive come to expect diversity posturing from big business, so that doesn’t bother me. The commercial gives me anxiety watching each person rush to hand off the banjo without even having a chord change. Either buy more time, or use less musicians.
King Honky Of Crackershire
September 19, 2019 @ 5:38 pm
It doesn’t bother you? Really? It bothers the living crap out of me. Yes, that commercial is awful, not because it’s diverse, but because of the purpose of the diversity.
Did you notice the sexually ambiguous 12 year old?
Tom Smith
September 19, 2019 @ 11:04 am
The whining in some of these comments is almost unbearable. You folks need to spend 8 years of your life making your own 16 hour documentary on the history of country music. Then convince a major network to air it. I’ll be the first to tune in and see how that goes.
Convict charlie
September 19, 2019 @ 11:19 am
I was thinking of that last night. Tyler mahan coe said he spends 100 hours to produce a single episode. At 16 hours that’s a minimum of 16,000 hours right there. Tyler already had the real life experience of being behind the scenes in the business. Where Ken burns May not have. Plus Ken probably had to fly around the country to meet with people.
Trigger
September 19, 2019 @ 11:26 am
I totally understand the frustrations of some fans who want to see their country heroes get more face time in this important documentary. That said, it is an unenviable task to try and put a film like this together and keep everyone happy. I have openly questioned some of the decisions Ken Burns has made so far. But overall, I think he’s doing an excellent job, and covering a lot of important ground where he must appeal to a general audience.
Fat Freddy's Cat
September 19, 2019 @ 12:17 pm
My thought is that people should simply consider this documentary a starting point. That’s how I study any historical subject: start with an overarching general history and then find sources that cover the particular details I’m interested in.
I certainly intend to follow up this series by reading additional biographies and listening to the music of artists I’m not familiar with (e.g. I’ve never listened to much Roy Acuff and think I should explore that more).
Corncaster
September 19, 2019 @ 11:51 am
But what gives this documentary coherence?
Is it just a bunch of $trung-together $tories about $ucce$$ful country career$?
I’m in it for the pictures.
Chris
September 19, 2019 @ 12:37 pm
Honestly, the backlash against Cash that always comes up in the comments on this site is strange.
The idea that people only have a high opinion of him because of the Rubin albums is deeply unhistorical. This guy was basically the president of country music in the ’70s, he was inducted to the hall of fame at 48 – the youngest living member – he was a member of country’s most famous supergroup in the ’80s. You ask any of the legends of country what they think of Cash, see what they say.
And the stuff about people’s personal lives is a cheap shot. This is country – I guarantee half your favourite singers were cheating on their wives, popping pills etc.
Kevin Smith
September 19, 2019 @ 1:56 pm
Chris , I have a theory on the ridiculous CASH hate. It’s kinda like Truth was saying. He’s a mega star with all the hipsters and scenesters that feel the need to proclaim how cool they think they are by name-checking him. To an old school country fan like many of us, we wanna go ” oh really, you like Johnny Cash? Wow. Your so deep and edgy, I’m sure you are a real country music fan, no doubt and can tell me all about Onie Wheeler, Eddie Noack, Johnny Paycheck , Joe and Rose Lee Maphis too. ” Right? ( chirp …chirp)
So, you get maybe the sense that some of the purists take a bit of delight in their knowledge that comes with years of studying the genre. I’m a bit that way I suppose, though I try to be at least friendly to newcomers. But, to me Cash is just undeniably one of the most popular guys to ever grace the music and he’s so universally loved you can’t discredit him. And at the end of the day he admitted his faults and didn’t make excuses for them. Also he was humble enough to admit he didn’t have all the answers. Finally, he saw himself as a man for the common people and the way he spoke endeared him to everyone.
Jack Williams
September 19, 2019 @ 3:22 pm
Also, some consider him a “social justice warrior” of sorts and of course, that’s bad.
My parents had a couple of Johnny Cash albums. Maybe the Folsom Prison album and I think a compilation called The World of Johnny Cash, as it has a lot of songs that I remember. Columbia years stuff. Delia is one that I remembered (First time I shot her …). I was like 10/11or so. All the music they played I considered “old people music.” but the two that I got at least a little enjoyment out of was Johnny Cash and The Clancy Brothers. As I got into my 20’s, I started to like the sound of his Sun music. But it wasn’t until I heard his second Rubin album Unchained that I jumped on board. That was largely a roots rockish album but with some straight country and so it went down easy with me at the time. Loved it. Bought the first one too and then eventually picked up the 3 CD Essential Johnny Cash, which covered his Sun and Columbia years. A highlight was a several minute version of John Henry’s hammer. I hadn’t heard it or even thought about it for about 30 years and it seemed like I knew every nuance of it. Just burned into the subconscious, I guess.
King Honky Of Crackershire
September 19, 2019 @ 3:44 pm
Chris,
Speaking only for me, I’ve never liked Cash’s voice, or his style. That’s all.
The hipsters have only made him more unbearable because I’m forced to hear more about him than I ever cared to. And ultimately, the music media has gone along with the hipsters and allowed the narrative to be that Cash is the greatest of all time, which makes me metaphorically sick.
RD
September 20, 2019 @ 6:10 pm
Cash was a fraud. He was somewhere between Unknown Hinson and Wheeler Walker, Jr. in terms of authenticity. Listen to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMfj1nC3zLI
King Honky Of Crackershire
September 20, 2019 @ 7:38 pm
I know he’s a fraud, but even if he weren’t, I still wouldn’t like his music much.
RD
September 20, 2019 @ 8:00 pm
Jackson is a great song. He also does a nice rendition of Tennessee Stud, but really, he couldn’t play guitar, wasn’t a great singer, and wasn’t a great songwriter. I like a handful of songs, but I view him as the CW McCall of roots country, or whatever you want to call it. He was sort of a joke, not to be taken seriously. I guess he was shameless, but I would have been incredibly embarrassed to strut around the stage, acting like a tough-guy, hardened convict. It was a thin act. I’m just surprised that so many people bought into it. If he were alive today, he would be mixing hip-hop and EDM into his music, just trying to stay relevant.
Trigger
September 20, 2019 @ 8:25 pm
Look, I’ve been running a country music website professionally for 12 years. Up until tonight, I have never, NEVER seen anyone accuse or insinuate that Johnny Cash tried to portray himself as a hardened criminal, either in his persona, or as the reason he played his prison concerts. Instead, every 5th song he recorded was a gospel song, and the reason he chose to play prisons is because he believed in reform and forgiveness. It’s a total straw man.
If you think that Johnny Cash is a fraud, then you shouldn’t be running down all the time Ken Burns spent covering him on the 4th episode of this documentary, you should be applauding it. What did Ken Burns do in this episode when it comes to the Johnny Cash legacy? Go read the comments further above in the thread. In the 4th episode of this documentary, Ken Burns started the work to dispel the myth behind Johnny Cash as a saintly, larger-than-life being, and the pinnacle of virtue that he’s always been portrayed as. Ken Burns portrayed him as a liar and an adulterer, who left his wife and kids behind, and used his daughter Rosanne Cash (not a comedian), to substantiate that. Whether you personally like Johnny Cash or not, his legacy looms HUGE in not just country music, but in American life. It would be ridiculous for Ken Burns to ignore him, or give him a diminished role in this documentary just because some grousers on the internet think he sucks. Instead, Ken Burns is doing what all great historians do, which is telling the story accurately. And in the case of Johnny Cash, I think it’s helping the millions who will see this documentary look at Johnny Cash in a more accurate light.
JM
September 20, 2019 @ 8:00 pm
The world’s foremost hipster music publication is making the same critiques of the documentary, even saying that Johnny Cash got too much attention and overshadowed Glen Campbell: https://www.google.com/amp/s/pitchfork.com/thepitch/ken-burns-country-music-pbs-documentary-review/amp/
Congratulations, y’all played yourselves.
Jack Williams
September 20, 2019 @ 6:48 am
You ask any of the legends of country what they think of Cash, see what they say.
Very good point.
RD
September 20, 2019 @ 6:10 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMfj1nC3zLI
Trigger
September 20, 2019 @ 6:38 pm
Yes, well-known country expert Norm McDonald, who didn’t even know that Cash and Merle met at San Quentin, not Folsom Prison.
RD
September 20, 2019 @ 6:46 pm
He and Billy Joe Shaver are best friends. He knew Waylon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5pRKlZC2Kw
RD
September 20, 2019 @ 6:49 pm
I don’t think you know much about Norm MacDonald. He’s not just a huge country music fan, but he is/has been friends with many of the legends.
Trigger
September 20, 2019 @ 7:05 pm
Actually I’m a big fan of Norm McDonald, and I know he has a lot of friends in country music. But I’m not going to take him as an authority on Johnny Cash, and neither should anyone else. I think he was just riffing in that clip on Johnny. Cash never claimed to be a criminal as McDonald alludes to. He played prisons because he believed in prison reform. Of course his persona preceded him, like every country artist.
RD
September 20, 2019 @ 6:53 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9qGm5H8l-4
RD
September 20, 2019 @ 7:18 pm
But you dismissed him as “well known country expert Norm MacDonald.” Clearly, he knows those guys personally. Have you ever strolled down the street arm-in-arm with Billy Joe Shaver? I formed my opinion of Johnny Cash long before I ever heard Norm MacDonald talk about him. Cash, in my opinion, was a complete fraud. I still like some of his music, but I view him like I view C.W. McCall. C.W. McCall was created by Chip Davis, the same guy who created Manheim Steamroller. Cash’s persona is a character that he played. As I’ve said before, I have no idea if the I Walk the Line movie is accurate, but, in the movie, his father admonishes him for being a fake and playing a character.
RD
September 20, 2019 @ 7:28 pm
From Vice article on 12/16/16:
“A living legend, Billy Joe Shaver wrote classic country songs for the likes of Tom T Hall, Jerry Jeff Walker, the Allman Brothers, the original amphetamine amigos Johnny Cash and Waylon Jennings, and even the King himself, Elvis Presley. Bob Dylan is a big fan, as is comedian and huge country music buff Norm Macdonald. Waylon Jennings’ breakthrough “Outlaw country” album Honky Tonk Heroes, arguably one of the best country albums ever recorded, is almost entirely written by Shaver.”
Trigger
September 20, 2019 @ 9:58 pm
I don’t give a shit how much of a country music buff Norm McDonald is, if he’s trying to say Johnny Cash tried to present himself as a hardened criminal, he has no idea what the fuck he’s talking about. It’s as accurate as him saying Johnny and Merle met at Folsom Prison, which they didn’t. They met at San Quentin. While you’re digging up quotes, dig up one quote from Johnny Cash, or anyone else that isn’t Norm McDonald, saying that at any time, Johnny Cash presented himself as a hardened criminal.
Bullshit.
Clint Bond
September 19, 2019 @ 12:41 pm
You know, this documentary has shown that things today aren’t really different at all. There were good and bad artists in Nashville, music outside of Nashville was exciting and there are so many pop and other influences in country music. I love hearing all the stories though, it has been so fun to watch.
Mars3
September 22, 2019 @ 5:11 am
Whether or not you like Johnny Cash or his music, there’s no disputing his authenticity. He put it all out there — his beliefs, his struggles, the ongoing battle between darkness and light that runs through all of his work — and you’re just wrong if you try to assert otherwise. It’s that authenticity — that humanity — that makes him one of the most important artists in popular music ever…period, full stop.
Mars3
September 22, 2019 @ 5:13 am
Prior comment intended for the Johnny Cash thread above….
Bebe Aker
September 19, 2019 @ 2:13 pm
It’s Western Music for me. So good to hear Marty Robbins and ‘El Paso’. I listened to that song about 5 times last night . And, went straight to ‘Ghost Riders in the Sky’.
DLoveown the Rat Tubes of tunes for a few hours. Sons of Pioneers and NRPS. Sorry Nashville… Bakersfield Beat for this Girl of the Golden West.
eckiezZ!
September 19, 2019 @ 3:08 pm
That ending tho.
Two Patsy classics, back to back, and those violent plane crash debris photos.
Downright R-rated and gutsy.
Gives me chills just thinking about how brazen they’ll be when it comes time to tell the story of Spade Cooley.
Batterycap
September 19, 2019 @ 3:16 pm
One surprising thing I I took from the episode was that – Vivian Cash was stunningly beautiful. You may infer what you wish regarding the no comment on her replacement.
michael w Wagley
September 19, 2019 @ 4:34 pm
As a former musician focused on jazz and classical, I learned to appreciate talent in any musical form. With some exceptions, many country artists weren’t great on their instruments but their ability to tell stories through lyrics and some pretty voices with appropriate , although often raw vocals, reached many Americans through generations. The brilliance and genius of writing a song in an hour or two, good songs, is a very high level of creativity. To compare Ellington, Stravinski, Cohen etc etc in their genre is reasonable.
This work by Burns is important if for no other reason, historical perspective.
My earliest memory of music is of Hank Williams. To see his tragic short life, as with many jazz greats is distressing.
Dave Wright
September 19, 2019 @ 4:47 pm
A subtle point from the last episode was the splitting of country with rockabilly. Elvis and Cash were very similar in age but one was single and one was married when they first hit the scene. Elvis was politely snubbed by the Opry when he first appeared and never went back. My sense was that his overt sexuality shocked the traditionalists in country but was the ultimate driver of rock which became dominant in a few years.
Jerry Clower's Ghost
September 19, 2019 @ 5:21 pm
Two narratives are bouncing around my head as i watch these first few episodes… 1. How commercial country music has always been. 2. How on-point Oh Brother Where Art Thou was.
From all the Jimmie Rodgers songs to the Pappy O’Daniels biscuits-flour-hour-Bob Wills and the Doughboys thing, they must have had some serious depth for story consultation.
FeedThemHogs
September 20, 2019 @ 2:57 pm
And how about nearly the entire soundtrack of Oh Brother being worked in to this project. Goes to show that Oh Brother was done right and was able to capture the true heartbeat of 1930s rural Mississippi life. I half expected to see WEZY radio featured in the documentary at one point! Haha!
Daniel
September 19, 2019 @ 7:15 pm
So far the third episode was my favorite, but that’s mostly because I liked the music best and I learned more about the music I tend to dig.
I think the criticism of Cash earlier (not a great singer, not a great songwriter, not a great musician) is accurate, but he crossed multiple genres and people know him. The reality is that most people who come to this site regularly and post comments are going to want something that digs a bit more beneath the surface to share some new information about lesser know artists. But that’s a documentary made by a true fan and it’s not going to air on PBS; it’s going to show on Youtube (e.g., Honky Tonk Tuesday Nights). Burns is faced with showing stuff that will be new for *everyone* and creating a doc that is going to pull in the casual viewer who only knows Cash, Nelson, and Billy Ray Cyrus. I’m fine with that because on the whole, this has been really interesting and really informative.
abt16
September 19, 2019 @ 8:10 pm
I really appreciate these comments, because I am INTO this series. Am a lifelong fan of all kinds of music. Saw George Jones once in Worcester, MA.
Just one general comment. IMHO Mr. Burns and his team (in Walpole, NH) are a national treasure, and it’s sort of easier for these folks, the more historical perspective that they have on any particular topic.
For example, in the Jazz series, the first third was great, the second third was very good, and in the modern era people had lots of agendas, and the fight was (and is) still ongoing. So I would expect that the last parts of this one will be controversial – for the choices that they will have to make. So, buckle up.
I just hope that they pay sufficient attention to: The Band, Gram Parsons, and the youngsters, like Uncle Tupelo and offspring (Son Volt and Wilco).
cheerio –
RedDirtCyclone
September 20, 2019 @ 6:15 am
Gram Parsons is featured pretty heavily in later episodes. They get in to the Byrds, Flying Burrito Brothers, and Parsons work with Emmylou Harris.
Excitedsouthnr
September 20, 2019 @ 6:25 am
Did anyone notice Harold Jenkins?
Kevin Smith
September 20, 2019 @ 7:47 am
Ol Harry Jenkins…..Hello Darlin, nice to see ya…..you sure look good in those tight fittin’ jeans and I can tell you’ve never been this far before…I’d love to lay ya down and softly whisper pretty love words in your ear….”
You gotta love that immaculate perm ol Harry had…
Michelle
September 20, 2019 @ 9:39 am
It was nice to see Mel Tillis again.
Gena R.
September 20, 2019 @ 12:30 pm
Oh my goodness, LOVED the part about his friendship with Roger Miller! 😀 Despite the somber ending (RIP Patsy, Hawk & Cowboy), I thought this was mostly a super-fun episode.
Blake
September 20, 2019 @ 2:00 pm
If ever a film/documentary needed a “directors cut” this would be it. I’m 28 so I wasn’t around when all the legends were REALLY active, but the country I listen to is 50s-90s as well as modern independent/non radio stuff. This whole documentary has been absolutely out of this world for me and if a 50+ hour directors cut was released I would buy it in a haleart beat.
Also, I’m still holding out hope that my all time favorite DAC is at least mentioned lol.
Eduardo Vargas
September 20, 2019 @ 8:08 pm
Man seeing all this hatred for Johnny Cash… unbelievable, even heretical in my opinion.
You want to know who influenced your favorite artists? Willie, Merle, Waylon, Kristofferson, you guessed it- it was him. Johnny Cash is the greatest singer in the history of country music, and I will die on that rock defending him.
Also, have these episodes featured Marty Robbins? The man doesn’t get enough appreciation, being one of the finest vocalists the genre ever has had.
Gena R.
September 21, 2019 @ 10:42 am
Yup, I counted at least a couple of Marty mentions in ep. 4. 🙂
RD
September 20, 2019 @ 8:38 pm
This is one of the reasons why I can’t stand that a fraud like Johnny Cash is portrayed as a legend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8kvLYLoAKA
RD
September 20, 2019 @ 8:40 pm
Or this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ738OqD-pA
Eduardo Vargas
September 21, 2019 @ 5:48 am
If there is one thing I cannot stand about so many readers of this website is how they always feel the need to prove their hipster cred by hating the legends that built the foundations for the music we listen to… including the artists in the Americana scene everyone drools about here and that the mainstream ignores. I mean seriously?
It’s like the times people in here have bashed Frank Sinatra, George Strait, the Beatles and others- it boggles my mind how anyone could be so cynical as to not enjoy them.
Kevin Smith
September 21, 2019 @ 3:08 pm
Eduardo,
Some folks just get off on bashing legends. See my comments above. I could be that way but choose not to. For example, Eddie Arnold is a guy that doesn’t cut it for me, but who am I to say he wasn’t talented or successful? Live and let live.
I don’t mind a strong opinion, though, I got mine but I always say, be prepared to back it up and realize we all may disagree with you.
Rd
September 21, 2019 @ 9:49 pm
Jerry Reed could stumble and drop his guitar and it would sound better than anything that Johnny Cash could ever dream of creating. Apart from being 100000000000000% better, in terms of playing, Jerry Reed was a better singer, songwriter, performer, actor, etc., all while being completely genuine. Yet, who do most of the morons worship? The “Man in Black,” with his canned bullshit , tough guy image, and, pandering to the lowest common denominator. Fuck Johnny Cash and the lame horse he rode in on.
Trigger
September 22, 2019 @ 8:27 am
I would agree with everything you said aside from the last two sentences. Of course Jerry Reed was better than Johnny Cash as a musician and singer. Not Cash’s fault he became so popular, and Jerry Reed didn’t. And again I renew my calls to prove that ANYONE, let along Johnny Cash himself, portrayed him as a “tough guy.”
Eduardo Vargas
September 22, 2019 @ 8:07 pm
I could care less about Jerry Reed man- as Trigger said, Cash is popular while he is less so, and these types of comparisons are not only pointless they are quite harmful in my opinion, since the merit of any one singer/performer are worth more than your reductionist take on them. If you want to result towards childish name calling and insults, that’s your call, but I’m simply not going to bother going forward seeing as we can’t have a mature conversation and instead are resulting to personal attacks.
Goodbye
King Honky Of Crackershire
September 21, 2019 @ 12:07 pm
What did this video have to do with Johnny Cash?
Rd
September 21, 2019 @ 5:06 pm
Artists with far more talent and ability are relegated to obscurity, while Cash is remembered as one of the greats.
King Honky Of Crackershire
September 24, 2019 @ 8:13 am
10-4.
Steel&Antlers
September 23, 2019 @ 3:22 pm
Wow, I knew Chet Atkins was an asshole but I didn’t know he was that much of an asshole. Duck Chet Atkins.
Traditionalist
September 24, 2019 @ 7:59 pm
Did I miss it or has the greatest country singer of all time been left out..Conway Twitty…50 #1 hits!!!!!
Trigger
September 24, 2019 @ 8:08 pm
Conway Twitty has been left out. In my opinion, he is the biggest, and only true snub of the film.
Lance
September 24, 2019 @ 10:01 pm
I’ve only seen E4 & E5, but Johnny Paycheck seemed to get snubbed
Lance
September 25, 2019 @ 4:01 pm
Pitchfork cites Paycheck and Doug Sahm as notable snubs
Joe Osgood
September 25, 2019 @ 7:32 am
Tennessee Ernie Ford had a great voice and some popular hits. I didn’t see any mention of him at all.