The REAL Double Standard Found in Morgan Wallen Repercussions

As some of the dust begins to settle from the fallout of Morgan Wallen’s inappropriate and offensive use of the N-word captured on a ring doorbell camera and leaked to TMZ—which resulted in Morgan losing most all support from radio and TV, awards shows, touring, and having his recording contract suspended—there’s an addendum that needs to be addressed in regards to the accusations of a double standard pervasive in country music.
One of the most high profile country artists to directly call out Morgan Wallen’s actions amid the fallout was Maren Morris. Respectfully disagreeing with Kelsea Ballerini who tweeted out at the Morgan Wallen news that his actions “…do not represent country music,” Maren Morris said in a February 2nd tweet about the situation,
“It actually IS representative of our town because this isn’t his first ‘scuffle’ and he just demolished a huge streaming record last month regardless. We all know it wasn’t his first time using that word. We keep them rich and protected at all costs with no recourse.”
Later, a songwriter named Bonnie J. Baker remarked, “If a female artist did 5% of the shit he has pulled she would be dropped immediately by everyone.”
Kelsea Ballerini concurred, saying, “The truth is the truth.” Maren Morris agreed as well, saying, “Yup. We’d be dropped, endorsements lost, social pariahs to Music Row…”

It’s most certainly true that Morgan Wallen has been given an incredibly long leash—one that led to this moment that now not just Morgan Wallen is paying a price for, but country music as well. But the acusation that if a female performer had done something something similarly egregious (or even 5% as egregious), they would have faced even more grave repercussions just isn’t true. As a matter of fact, the exact opposite is true. The double standard in country actually runs so diametrically counter to the assertion made by these women that it’s imperative to highlight, and how it has directly benefited Maren Morris and other certain artists in country music.
In the wake of the death of George Floyd in May of 2020, country artist Mickey Guyton became a focal point of media coverage as one of the few black women in the mainstream of country. She was subsequently asked to write an op/ed for Billboard about her experiences in country music, and how the country music community could improve to help artists of color. In the column, the most shocking revelation was not some systemic racism she had experienced in the country genre from her label or radio at some point. It was how she had been excluded and snubbed by her fellow women in the genre.
“I’ve gone to all the girl parties full of wine, ring light selfie booths, white female country singers and writers talking about ongoing projects and music they are putting out,” Mickey Guyton wrote. “On one occasion, I left my ailing husband, who almost died from sepsis, in California just four days after his life-saving surgery because I had been invited to be a part of a female empowerment music video full of these same women. I arrived at the airport exhausted but excited. I checked my itinerary only to find that the entry had been deleted; I had been disinvited. The song was about supporting women in country, yet they disinvited the only charting African American woman in country music. Do they know? Don’t they see that I support them? Do they care? Do they want to see me? The answer is no. Let that sink in.”
Readers of Saving Country Music will know where this story is going because it’s been harped upon here numerous times. But few others will, because despite the seriousness of the charge, Mickey Guyton’s story was systematically buried by the media en masse when it was revealed, and not even chattered upon on Twitter or other social media by the same personalities who will take things such as an Instagram story post by Jason Aldean’s wife, and turn them into an existential crisis for the genre.
Though Mickey Guyton didn’t name the female supergroup The Highwomen, or their 2019 video shoot for the song “Redesigning Women” as the subject of her op/ed at the time, it soon became evident this is what and who she was referring to. Maren Morris is a member of The Highwomen, along with Amanda Shires, Brandi Carlile, and Natalie Hemby. No public explanation from The Highwomen or anyone else has ever been made as to why Mickey Guyton was disinvited, or what specifically happened to where she didn’t feel welcome to attend a video shoot she had flown across the country to be a part of.
“Do they care? Do they want to see me? The answer is no. Let that sink in,” Mickey Guyton said.
Furthermore, there were no women of color involved in the “Redesigning Women” video. Along with The Highwomen themselves, a second group of women are featured in the latter stages of the video. This group included Lauren Alaina, Kassi Ashton, Cam, Lilly Hiatt, Wynonna Judd, Catie Offerman, Cassadee Pope, Erin Rae, RaeLynn, Natalie Stovall, Tanya Tucker, Anna Vaus, and Hailey Whitters. But there were no women of color. As these women were “redesigining” what it meant to be a woman in country music, minority representation was completely left out of the picture.
“Let that sink in,” as Mickey Guyton says.
To the credit of Maren Morris, she did address the situation indirectly on Twitter, and confirmed that Guyton was supposed to be part of the video shoot. But this was only as a response to a fan’s question, and was offered with little detail about what happened. Morris responded to the fan, “We were notified of this yesterday + were completely mortified that such a giant miscommunication occurred under our watch at the shoot that day & have each reached out to Mickey privately with the utmost respect & apologies. It shouldn’t have happened & isn’t what we stand for.”
However, neither Amanda Shires, Brandi Carlile, Natalie Hemby, nor The Highwomen collectively have addressed the issue publicly, or directly. We still don’t know why Mickey Guyton felt she was “disinvited” from the shoot, and felt so injured she wrote an op/ed about it. If there is a simple explanation such as a logistical snafu made by a staffer, that’s fine and forgivable. But if this is the case, why haven’t The Highwomen shared that? Saving Country Music reached out to The Highwomen camp for an explanation or statement, and those requests went unanswered. Requests were also sent to the Mickey Guyton camp for clarification, and they were also not returned.
So the next question would be, is Morgan Wallen getting caught using a racial slur in jest while drunk towards one of his friends on a Ring doorbell camera, or a country music supergroup disinviting the only major label black female artist from a video shoot after she had flown across the country and left her ailing husband to participate the more egregious offense? Does the disinvitation of Mickey Guytoneven reach the 5% threshold presented in the Twitter exchange between Maren Morris, Kelsea Ballerini, and Bonnie J. Baker?
Or think about it like this: What if Morgan Wallen, or Luke Combs, or some other male country star had disinvited Mickey Guyton or any black performer from participating in a video shoot last minute after they had flown across country to be there, and then the offended artist felt so injured by the experience, they decided to make it the centerpiece of an op/ed in Billboard? What would the repercussions be, and how would the media cover it? I think we all know the answer.
Of course the outcomes for Morgan Wallen and The Highwomen were completely different. By midday on February 3rd, Morgan Wallen had been removed from the radio playlists of all Cumulus and iHeartMedia stations, along with a host of regional and local stations. CMT had ceased to air all Morgan Wallen content. The CMA denounced him, the ACMs declared him ineligible for the upcoming awards in April, and his label Big Loud suspend his contract. The next day, his booking and representation agency WME dropped him as well. For all intents and purposes, his mainstream career was over, at least for now.
In the wake of the revelations about The Highwomen, not only were there no professional repercussions at all, not only did the media not even as much as mention it, or require The Highwomen to answer inquiries or issue a simple apology, The Highwomen went onto virtually sweep the Americana Music Awards announced on December 15th, 2020. They won Album of the Year, Song of the Year, and Duo/Group of the Year. They’re also up for a Grammy Award in March.
The Highwomen are not racists. They collaborated with black British singer Yola on their “Highwomen” theme song, and Yola also performed with them at the Newport Folk Fest in 2019. The Highwomen likely don’t deserve to face major repercussions over the matter. But the public does deserve a detailed explanation of what happened to Mickey Guyton, and the media should insist upon it. If country music is serious about rooting out the systematic downgrading and exclusion of artists of color, this explanation is imperative.
“Do they care? Do they want to see me? The answer is no,” Mickey Guyton said of The Highwomen. “Let that sink in.”
But this instance is one of many where artists such as Maren Morris, The Highwomen, and others have been placed in a protected class from scrutiny due to the public stances they take on social media for progressive values. This instance isn’t even the only one involving The Highwomen shading out the contributions of marginalized artists in country music.
Included on The Highwomen’s debut record is the song “If She Ever Leaves Me.” Written by Amanda Shires, Jason Isbell, and Chris Tompkins, the group presented it as the first ever gay country song to the press and in promotional copy.
“Me and Amanda were in Jackson Hole, and I was on the elliptical and I thought about this project and went, ‘What if Brandi sang it?’” Jason Isbell said in a 2019 feature on the supergroup for Rolling Stone. “And I started going, ‘Gay country song! Gay country song!’ I called Amanda [Shires] and went ‘Gay country song! Gay country song!’”
Despite the decades-long lineage of gay country songs and artists in country music, and the participation of Brandi Carlile in the project (who is gay herself and should know better, along with the other members), Rolling Stone, the writer of the feature Marissa R. Moss, and the media at large allowed The Highwomen to market this song as the first gay country song, perpetrating the erasure of other gay artists and their contributions to the country genre.
Erasure of marginalized performers to make other artists or media members to appear as groundbreakers, or in some cases white saviors, is common within country and Americana music’s protected elitist class. Jennifer Nettles of Sugarland is regularly praised for her advocacy for women and the marginalized in country music, even receiving the inaugural CMT Equal Play Award in 2020 for her efforts. However, Jennifer Nettles and Sugarland were part of arguably the most exclusionary moment in modern country history when the duo parted ways with the original third member of the group, Kristen Hall, right as Sugarland was coming to prominence.
Kristen Hall is gay, and is believed to have been removed in 2005 because she didn’t fit the image Sugarland and the label wanted to present at that time. Kristen Hall later sued Sugarland over the split. Similar to The Highwomen, Jennifer Nettles has never had to answer or apologize for what happened to Kristen Hall. On the contrary, she is regarded as a hero and champion of marginalized voices in country music, just like The Highwomen.
Amid the praise for Jennifer Nettles in 2020, Saving Country Music was the only outlet to report on the double standard in her career. Aside from Billboard where the original op/ed ran, Saving Country Music was also the only outlet to report on the Mickey Guyton disinvitation by The Highwomen. This is also the only place that offered clarifications to widely-reported stories involving black erasure, including the false story of Mickey Guyton being the first ever black woman to perform on the ACM Awards stage in 2020 (which ironically, was a misnomer pushed to prominence by Jennifer Nettles), or the black erasure that surrounded the rise of Lil Nas X. The critical contributions of black performers are systemically being erased in the effort to portray country music as more exclusionary than it is.
Not to make this all about Saving Country Music, but this outlet has been labeled sexist, racist, and homophobic, and specifically by members of this protected elitist performer class, and their media allies. Maren Morris once referred to myself as a “basement dweller.” Jason Isbell recently called me an “incel” and a “coward.” Margo Price—also one of these protected elites—recently called me “uneducated,” along with being sexist, racist, and homophobic. Why is this? It’s not from any behavior against marginalized classes. Margo Price was asked specifically to produce evidence to her accusation, and forwarded nothing. Not a single credible accusation with evidence has ever been produced to validate these claims.
The reason for the effort to discredit Saving Country Music is because it’s the only outlet that has addressed concerning behavior dealing with race and marginalized classes in country music that is coming from this elitist and down-looking class of artists who are sheltered by the rest of the media, and not held to account for their actions compared to other performers. It’s also worth pointing out that that using words such as “uneducated,” “basement dweller,” and “incel” amid a pandemic when isolation, mental illness, and drug abuse are skyrocketing, speaks to the superiority complex these artists hold while holding back skeletons in their own closet.
The paradigm has completely shifted in country music. Where previously it was believed you must hold and share conservative values to be accepted and protected in the genre, now its the sharing of progressive values that will curry you favor with the media, while nothing is more dangerous than sharing conservative perspectives in country music. Similarly, if you’re in the media, and you simply hold artists to the same standards regardless of their political leanings, it will be assumed you’re conservative and must be excoriated and excluded from the community, even if you’re championing what would be considered progressive values like inclusion and accountability.
Maren Morris deserves credit for being the only member of The Highwomen to address the Mickey Guyton situation, though she has yet to apologize publicly. But the idea that herself, Kelsea Ballerini, or any woman in country is held to a higher standard than their male counterparts just isn’t true. Miranda Lambert has had her run-ins with publicity nightmares as well. In February 2019, police were called on her after she confronted another table of diners at a Nashville restaurant, dumped a salad in a woman’s lap, and Miranda had to be physically restrained. And not to get too deep into the gossip realm, but Miranda later broke up the marriage of Turnpike Troubadours frontman Evan Felker. Nonetheless, these incidents did not result in serious injury to Miranda Lambert’s career.
The reason many Morgan Wallen fans are upset about the 27-year-old being subject to such major repercussion is they believe it’s a double standard of a completely different sort. Morgan Wallen fans cite how black performers use the N-word all the time with no repercussions. In fact the specific phrase Morgan Wallen uttered (“Pu**y ass nig**”) is the very title of numerous hip-hop songs, including tracks from Boosie Badazz, Big Mook, Lil Ted, and 2 Live Crew. It’s a crutch phrase common to hip-hop callout songs, including from numerous songs by Lil’ Wayne, specifically “Beat The Shit” and “Gonorrhea.” The context in which Morgan Wallen used the word was likely in this vein. It’s been confirmed it was not used in anger or spite towards a black person, but towards a white friend in jest.
It’s also fair to point out that Rakiyah Marshall, the black founder and CEO of publishing and artist development company Back Blocks Music, recently posted:
But the Morgan Wallen fans that cite the double standard of black people using the N-word are wrong. The N-word was used to systemically downgrade black people for centuries, and that’s the reason it’s been stricken from the lexicon of acceptable language for white people. It probably would be advantageous if black performers and individuals refrained from using the word as well, and that would help hasten its deprecation. But there is a difference between a white person and a black person using it due to the word’s history. In 2021, everyone knows the repercussions of using it publicly, or even being caught saying it privately.
The double standard that is a legitimate concern is how other white individuals have used the word without facing similar consequences, from Post Malone being caught in a Vine video saying the word in 2015, to Bill Marr using the word in 2017 during a public broadcast of his HBO show Real Time. Neither of these public individuals faced anywhere near the punishment Morgan Wallen has. There was criticism, but no contracts were voided or suspended, no radio play or promotional opportunities were lost, and they continue to be prominent figures in their respective fields.
Ironically, being a country music star might be the reason Morgan Wallen’s judgement and execution has been so swift and sweeping. Despite the genre regularly going on blast for being exclusionary and insensitive to black America, the industry’s response was about as severe as possible, aside from perhaps his label only suspending his contract as opposed to dissolving it, though there may be legal reasons for this move. Another reason Wallen is facing greater scrutiny is because this is not his first public offense.
Make no mistake, Morgan Wallen deserved and earned major public rebuke for his actions, and his behavior is inexcusable. Some will read this article and take it as apology making for Wallen, and this is not the case. Others will opportunistically cut quotes out of this article to present an opinion that is not the one shared here, and to remove the context and nuance this discussing was broached with. We all know the gravity of using the N-word, and how it can affect someone’s career in the public sphere. Whether you believe Morgan Wallen’s punishment is proportional, it was most certainly predictable.
But the double standard presented by Maren Morris and Kelsea Ballerini ended up not being true. Morgan Wallen faced the most catastrophic of repercussions for using the N-word. Meanwhile, The Highwomen have never even been forced to publicly address the Mickey Guyton situation. Neither have Jennifer Nettles and others been asked to answer for their issues. Morgan Wallen publicly apologized for his actions. The Highwomen never have.
Like Mickey Guyton said, “Do they care? Do they want to see me? The answer is no. Let that sink in.”
February 9, 2021 @ 9:48 am
I don’t care. I don’t want to see you all mentioned here. let there music sink in right now!
February 10, 2021 @ 5:32 pm
You’re certainly entitled to that attitude and your general philosophy towards the country music blogosphere. However, maybe, maybe it’s just a teeny tiny bit insensitive, not to use the word inappropriate, to post your comment to *this very article* under that name.
February 13, 2021 @ 10:39 am
No it wasn’t. Quit being weak. The man was spied on at his house. The worst thing he did was apologize. He did nothing wrong. The media just sucks these days.
February 11, 2021 @ 11:23 pm
I just want to say that to some people it it “just a word.” To many others it represents so much more, with violence and oppression associated with it. Morgan is a dumbass. But the kids who use a word that is ubiquitous in popular music, when they’re teens, when they’re told that the ultimate sin is to say a word… and then they act out and say that word.. its to be expected and we shouldn’t condemn them to lose jobs or scholarships or whatever. Kids do dumb shit on purpose. Jiminy Christmas.
February 13, 2021 @ 10:38 am
Maren morris (or whatever her name is) isn’t even a country singer.
March 15, 2021 @ 6:22 am
This site is guilty of having the same issues of Wallen et al… let a commenter named “chingchong” remain up.
March 15, 2021 @ 9:44 am
Oh chill. There’s 170 comments on this article, and I didn’t know that phrase could be considered insensitive until I googled it 90 seconds ago. No, this is not the same as Morgan Wallen dropping an N-bomb on camera. But the name’s been censored now. Happy?
March 15, 2021 @ 11:43 am
Racism against Asians is just in vogue right now.
I appreciate you censoring it 30plus days later. A censor bot would automatically delete offensive names and such.
Also you state it is not the same? A racist name used in replying to an article, a racist name said when you didn’t realize you were being recorded. The person that used the name knew what they were saying. The reality is for most Wallen’s only problem was being caught on camera.
So please chill yourself. I’m sorry you didn’t realize the phrase was racist. And you merely call it insensitive. It has been racist since it was used in 1860’s to mock Chinese railway laborers.
February 9, 2021 @ 9:48 am
Mic drop. You nailed it in every way.
February 9, 2021 @ 9:50 am
“Me and Amanda were in Jackson Hole, and I was on the elliptical…” – Line made me laugh. Living that 1% life but telling everyone else how they should feel and act about everything.
February 9, 2021 @ 1:12 pm
Seriously how can anyone speak that sentence aloud and not realize they’re a douche bag.
February 10, 2021 @ 11:16 am
I agree.
He’s become a complete scold.
The good news is that there is plenty of great country music out there which is produced by real people, not jerks who have become part of the commentariat.
I really haven’t paid too much attention to Jason since he left the DBT’s.
February 9, 2021 @ 1:26 pm
Using an elliptical in Jackson Hole (when his literal job is travelling all over the world) is “living that 1% life”?
February 9, 2021 @ 3:07 pm
He gets more insufferable by the day, which is a shame because he’s written some incredible beautiful music. The self righteousness is ridiculous.
February 9, 2021 @ 9:56 am
It’s correct, but a bit futile to point out the ‘hypocrisy of the other side’. They don’t care. “Keep kicking the dog until it bites back. Then shoot the dog.”
They’re waiting for you to bite too hard. Keep on going, man.
February 9, 2021 @ 9:59 am
Sigh.
I would say Isbell ought to be ashamed of himself for that, but I don’t really think he has the self-awareness for such.
February 9, 2021 @ 12:05 pm
For real. That was an incredibly shitty thing to say.
February 9, 2021 @ 10:01 am
Dude, a miscommunication between a group’s team and Mickey Guyton’s team has exactly not a fucking thing in common with a white man saying the n-word.
Mickey Guyton would laugh in your face at this shit.
If you want to compare it to The Dixie Chicks (who did far less, and suffered far greater commercial consequences due to an actual organized “Cancellation” campaign), go right ahead. Marr’s a well-known jackass and provocateur, while Malone is two years younger than Wallen today, and that video was recorded over 7 years ago – he was a fucking moron for saying it, but he actually was a child, at the time.
I have a ton of respect for you, but this flaccid, both-sidesing whataboutist nonsense is exactly what Isbell was giving you shit for.
February 9, 2021 @ 10:29 am
“Mickey Guyton would laugh in your face at this shit.”
Mikey Guyton’s op/ed would disagree with you. Did you read it? Do you understand what she’s saying? Do her words not have value?
Sure, there might be a very plausible explanation for why Mickey Guyton was disinvited from the video shoot. In fact, my guess is that is the case. And perhaps, or hopefully, this article will finally jar that explanation and a public apology loose, though I wouldn’t count on it.
You can’t be against the exclusion of black voices in country music, and then ignore this story where Mickey Guyton felt so hurt by this incident, she made it the centerpiece of an op/ed she wrote for Billboard.
And for the record, there is no doubt there is differences between these two incidents. The point is The Highwomen didn’t even have to apologize or acknowledge it. Meanwhile, Morgan Wallen did acknowledge it, didn’t try to explain it away, did apologize, and has paid the highest of prices. That’s certainly not a double standard in Morgan Wallen’s favor. That’s all that’s being pointed out here.
And calling me an “incel” is in no way endearing to Jason Isbell or anyone. It’s not intellectualism. It’s not even punditry. It’s low road, down-looking elitism.
February 9, 2021 @ 12:25 pm
“Incel” has basically become the “woke” left’s way of saying “lol you’re a neckbeard virgin” to anyone with moderate to right wing political views.
February 9, 2021 @ 5:41 pm
I have centre-right political views, champ!
I’m the cranky moderate in friend groups on both sides of the Atlantic, and I’ve only ever voted for Republican governors.
I’ve been called a neoliberal corporate boot licker, by friends…but I’ve never been called an incel, because I don’t act like one of the goddamn Male Men from Parks and Rec, nodding along in worshipful awe as Ben Shapiro tries to “Own the Libs” by announcing that he’s never satisfied his wife.
February 9, 2021 @ 8:31 pm
Lol my apologies for labeling you as a left wing. I’m not gonna lie Lester, I am a little shocked that you identify as center-right. I can believe it though. Would you describe yourself as leaning right wing economically but leaning liberal culturally/socially? I’m a little more conservative myself in terms of social views.
February 10, 2021 @ 1:51 pm
No worries, man.
I’m a prototypical “the government’s job is to ensure equality of opportunity, because a level playing field maximizes overall economic growth, but equality of outcome is nonsense” guy, haha.
The UK analog would be “Lloyd George>Atlee,” but I’ve I voted for Charlie Baker twice, voted for Romney, and HW is my favorite president of the last 30 years (Top 5 in the 20th century, too).
Standard Yankee Republican stuff…which doesn’t really exist these days.
February 9, 2021 @ 5:34 pm
You seem to be mistaking “Any black person on the planet, and anyone who has spent more than 30 seconds with a black person, would laugh in your face for pretending this shit is comparable” for “The Mickey Guyton snub wasn’t shitty.”
The snub was shitty.
If you wanted to cheer Guyton up, though, a great option would have been to say that it’s in any way comparable to a white man saying the n-word.
She’d laugh herself silly, because these are entirely different scales of shitty behavior.
And, of course, there’s the fact that he hasn’t received anywhere near “The highest of consequences.” His album sales just went up
Again, if you want to talk “Double Standards,” or “Cancellation,” compare him to the Dixie Chicks – Maines was pretty much the same age as Wallen is now…and she didn’t actually say anything wrong.
But hey, man…I’m sure this post will help you add a ton of Morgan Wallen’s brand new fans to your readership – they’re filling this comment section right now!
I always give you the benefit of the doubt, but shit like “Why hasn’t an independent Americana group faced the same scrutiny for a social faux pas as the biggest country star under 30 dropping an n-bomb on camera??? Double standards!!!” makes it damn hard.
February 11, 2021 @ 11:33 pm
I read your original article about this dis invite and am confused. Did the organizers of the shoot invite Mickey, recognizing a female voice they heard on spotify or something? Then realize she was black and have someone cancel the invite? I don’t get it. What happened between the invite and the dis invite?
February 12, 2021 @ 8:29 am
We don’t know what happened. All that we know is that it did happen. Mickey Guyton felt it was purposeful, so much so that she made it the centerpiece of her op/ed about race and country music. But for some reason, the press didn’t find Mickey Guyton’s account alarmist at all. Or, they are running interference for The Highwomen. Either way, if we are serious about addressing the exclusion of black women in country music, we deserve an explanation. That’s the only way to address it so we make sure it never happens again, mistake, purposeful, or otherwise.
February 9, 2021 @ 11:16 am
Maybe Isbell and The Highwomen aren’t the woke white saviors of the black race that you want them to be.
Andrea Williams would agree with me.
February 9, 2021 @ 11:52 am
Andrea Williams is a racist who uses terms like “redneck.”
February 9, 2021 @ 5:43 pm
…huh?
Really don’t even know how to respond to this comment, buckaroo.
February 9, 2021 @ 5:21 pm
….“Mickey Guyton would laugh in your face at this shit.”…
Trigger,
Listen to the Uncouth Jester. He listens to a ton of Rap and reads black authors, so he speaks for black folks. I mean he almost is black; if his wiener wasn’t so little, he would be.
February 9, 2021 @ 5:49 pm
And before you start crying – quislings aren’t Nazis!
They just wrapped their arms around members of the Nazi party them as tightly and enthusiastically as you wrap your lips around Nazis members!
February 9, 2021 @ 5:58 pm
Trigger,
The Jester just veered off topic again.
I request that he be censored; immediately.
February 10, 2021 @ 1:53 pm
The blubbering never ceases.
It must be exhausting to have such little self-respect, binky boy.
February 9, 2021 @ 7:01 pm
Im pretty sure moLester wears sparkly lip gloss.
February 9, 2021 @ 10:27 pm
Cool Lester Smooth is just manifestly right; these are different in that one is way worse than the other. It’s comparing a mountain to a bump. Any analysis that takes as its that they’re comparable in magnitude just ends up sounding like bad satire.
The claim that what’s wrong with the world today is that “country music”, music row, and country music radio is somehow hostile to conservatives and also that you’ve managed to contort cognition enough to place yourself in a victim category makes for fantasy. Is this true of entertainment emanating from Hollywood and institutions like universities? For sure. But country music writ-large remains a conservative enclave, just not some of those artists who are “saving it”, which is exactly what creates the cognitive dissonance, and motivated reasoning that so confuses you and many of your commenters.
On top of that, I’m not sure what you’re bemoaning here. You’ve been clear in tedious posts run ad nauseam that you think “politics” is a pollution violating the sanctity of country music, which threatens the project of “saving it”. But it’s also clear you’re sorrowful that the culture has changed such that “conservatives” just need to be given safe space to publicly inhabit said culture once more. I’m sensing that the double standard might actually be “liberal” politics in my music=bad; conservative politics=victims of liberal hypocritical hysteria; safe space please.
It’d be so much more intellectually honest to just be truthful; ‘I lean conservative and so this kind of “liberal hypocrisy” registers with me as intensely important cause it’s validating of my idea that the opposition is morally bankrupt. You’re just going to have to look harder for actual evidence.
February 9, 2021 @ 10:40 pm
Do you feel like the public deserves an explanation for what happened to Mickey Guyton re being disinvited from the video shoot? Do you feel like she deserves a public apology? Are you okay with Jennifer Nettles kicking an LGBT member out of Sugarland, and then being given an “Equal Play” award? Are you okay with the contributions of black and LGBT artists being erased so we can portray folks like Jason Isbell and Lil Nas X as groundbreakers? What happened to the moral compass that overrides political concerns? Where in the world is the empathy for what happened to Mickey Guyton and Kristen Hall? Literally the perpetrators of their exclusion are the ones being lauded as our generation’s warriors of inclusion. And if you can’t see the hypocrisy and double standards behind all of this, I don’t know what to say.
February 10, 2021 @ 2:18 pm
Again, man…you’re conflating (genuinely shitty!) social faux pas with a white man shouting the n-word.
When stripped of the hemming and hawing and dancing around the issue, this article boils down to:
“The current biggest artist in country music shouting the n-word on camera is a bigger story than an indie Americana band snubbing an up-and-comer, and giving a misleading promo interview…HYPOCRISY!!!!”
Instead of the woe-is-me, Male Men-esque performative victimhood…why don’t you look at what it says about the country music community that Morgan Wallen’s sales have surged after shouting the n-word on camera, while the establishment and base systematically destroyed the Dixie Chicks’ mainstream career in the genre, for being anti-war?
Sturgill made a great point about what limpdicked, click-chasing bullshit it is that the coverage has spent more time plumbing the indie Americana crowd’s reaction to Wallen’s being a fuckhead than Wallen’s actual peers.
Shit’s like asking Aaron Watson for his take on the identity of “Becky from Lemonade,” because he and Beyoncé are both from Texas.
February 10, 2021 @ 3:07 pm
I don’t take seriously the idea that on balance Jason Isbell, Maren Morris, Margo Price, Amanda Shires, et. al. are even close to a force for hostility and exclusion of LBGTQ and black people in country music, a single social faux pas notwithstanding.
But there are very real actors, institutions, and forces that really do act as discriminatory influences. Time better served illuminating those. And I strongly suspect any fair analysis of them wouldn’t show that they are, on the whole a problem of “hypocritical liberalism”. But it’s clear that’s not the ax you have to grind.
Liberals are terrible hypocrites that have very real negative impacts on the issues they claim to care about. Park Slop Liberals in NYC, almost the entirety of San Francisco. But this is here that you’re writing about is a nothingburger; it’s intellectually unserious.
February 10, 2021 @ 3:33 pm
Social faux pas? That’s what you call kicking someone out of your mainstream country act because she’s a lesbian, or disinviting someone from a photo shoot after she’s flown across the country to be there? Sure, maybe claiming you wrote the first gay country song is a faux pas, but the direct result of that very much is the exclusion of LGBT contributions to country music. Again, these individuals are cleared of accountability because of public stances they have taken on social media. But when it comes to their actions, they wouldn’t hold up to your average mainstream country radio star when it comes to character, and that’s saying a LOT.
February 11, 2021 @ 5:21 am
The Sugarland shit is absolutely inexcusable. Fuck them. It also happened 16 years ago, when DADT was the law of the land, and in the aftermath of the Dixie Chicks’ actual cancellation for Wrongthink.
But failing to communicate that your vision for a video had changed before the guest had flown cross-country is absolutely a social faux pas.
It’s genuinely shitty, regardless of the identity of the person being snubbed.
It’s also completely fucking different from a white man shouting the n-word on camera, even before you account for the order of magnitude between Guyton’s and the Highwomen’s fame level and Morgan Wallen’s.
Again, this article boils down to “Someone ten times more famous did something a thousand times worse…there can only be one explanation for how much more coverage this is getting: LIBERAL HYPOCRISY!!!!”
It’s no different from yesterday’s faux-outrage at Neera Tanden’s mean tweets.
February 11, 2021 @ 8:43 am
Again, I’m equating the two instances (The Highwomen, Morgan Wallen), I’m equating the two consequences. What Maren Morris and Kelsea Ballerini said was that if a woman did 5% of what Wallen had done, they would lose everything. That was the parameters with which this discussion was broached. I think it is very safe to say that assertion of a double standard is false.
February 11, 2021 @ 8:18 pm
You’re so confused. What Cool Lester Smooth is clearly saying is that the disparate size of the consequence between these two cases can be crudely, yet meaningfully explained by following:
Level of Fame+Severity of Transgression=Size of Public Penalty
You can’t pull apart and make any kind of sense of what you’re trying to analyze without understanding how these variables interact. This formula makes some basic sense and it’s what accounts for the source of your bemoaning, not imagined conservative persecution.
Lester Smooth also right that the true analogue here is the Dixie Chicks. And if you think that sex wasn’t an additional variable present in the above formula precipitating their cancellation, you’d have to be motivated by its denial.
February 12, 2021 @ 4:34 am
Exactly, Ryan…plus, a woman on Morgan Wallen’s scale “Losing everything” would take her down to Highwomen-level numbers, haha – Wallen’s sold twice as many albums since the video as the Highwomen have since release.
February 12, 2021 @ 10:11 am
As it says in the article:
“The paradigm has completely shifted in country music. Where previously it was believed you must hold and share conservative values to be accepted and protected in the genre, now its the sharing of progressive values that will curry you favor with the media, while nothing is more dangerous than sharing conservative perspectives in country music. Similarly, if you’re in the media, and you simply hold artists to the same standards regardless of their political leanings, it will be assumed you’re conservative and must be excoriated and excluded from the community, even if you’re championing what would be considered progressive values like inclusion and accountability.”
The Dixie Chicks incident was 20 years ago. TWENTY. It was five Presidential terms ago. What happened to the Dixie Chicks is not relevant to what is happening in country music today. It was an embarrassment, and a tragedy, and I have addressed that specific incident ad nauseum on this site. Even still, what’s happening to the Dixie Chicks really isn’t even equal to what happened to Morgan Wallen. The Dixie Chicks were not suspended by their label, or dropped by their booking agent. They were not disavowed by award shows, they were lauded by them in light of what happened. They did lose radio play, and they did see a decrease in ticket sales, but much of this was due to public demand. Ultimately, they recovered as a new fan base replaced the old one.
But the biggest difference here is two decades. One of the underlying points of this article was to illustrate how the paradigm has shifted.
February 14, 2021 @ 3:55 pm
I gotta say, man…it’s pretty rude to conflate “Shouting the n-word on camera” with “Conservative perspectives.”
I’m sure that will appeal to all the brand-new Morgan Wallen fans whose favor you’re currying, but it’s pretty damn offensive to any actual conservative.
Morgan Wallen isn’t in trouble because he’s a conservative. He’s in trouble because he shouted the n-word on camera.
I’ve also gotta say…it’s not actually exculpatory to the “Country Music Community” to note that the Dixie Chicks received far, far, far more “public” opprobrium (marshalled through collusion among several power players) for being anti-war than Morgan Wallen has for shouting the n-word on camera.
Frankly, it drives home the points that you’re crying about other folks making:
The Country Music Community reacted to a woman being anti-war in 2002 as if she’d shat on a Bible and wiped her ass with the American flag.
The Country Music Community reacted to a man shouting the n-word on camera in 2020 by buying even more of his albums.
CLEARLY, LIBERALISM IS OUT OF CONTROL!!!!
February 9, 2021 @ 10:07 am
Both these situations were wrong but I’m having a hard time seeing how the two could be weighed against each other to come to any definitive conclusions about a specific double standard in country music concerning racism, unless all nuance is set aside. You’ve covered the issue with Mickey and the Highwomen and have pointed out yourself that part of the reason it didn’t gain more social traction is bc it was kept inexplicit. Mickey didn’t name names and although she was almost certainly referring to the specific incident with the Highwomen, she also framed it in a broader sense and didn’t ever insinuate a certain person at a certain time did a certain thing. More that is was a passive aggressive type move on their part. If she had called them out by name and went into detail I would bet money publications and social media would’ve ran with it more but when I read that interview it seems like she’s using that situation as an example to highlight a broader issue and answer a broader question concerning race and exclusion in country music, not blow the whistle on a specific incident. This is smart on her part since, if it was reduced to one incident including specific people it could easily be written off by some as an isolated incident rather than a broader issue. But far as Wallen, there was an explicit, tangible record of him using a racial slur in a way that, even if it was in jest, was aggressive and framed as a negative insult. Only reason I say this is: one could just as easily come to the conclusion that the reason for Wallen’s fallout above the Highwomen is that there’s something specific to grab onto, which isn’t the case between Mickey and the Highwomen..At least not without further explanation or understanding. The other thing is the intersectionality (I know, liberal buzzword alert) that the Highwomen’s shoot was meant to be and was a celebration of empowerment by an all woman super group to uplift an often disenfranchised group in country music. That breaking that down into gender empowerment and inclusion while still having a conversation about racial exclusion or a lack of proportionate acknowledgment and representation is a much more difficult headline and nuanced topic of conversation, especially when it’s a strategically(I assume) vague accusation…..I just don’t look at the two and come to a specific conclusion concerning the double standard you outline here bc they just seem very difficult to relate to one another without setting aside alot of the surrounding circumstances.
February 9, 2021 @ 10:37 am
I understand that many are going to read this article and misunderstand this as a side by side comparison of the Mickey Guyton situation, and the Morgan Wallen situation. I tried to explain this in the article, but it’s worth underscoring again: the assessment here is primarily being made on the repercussions and media response to the two incidents. Maren Morris and Kelsea Ballerini said that if it was a woman who had been caught in a compromising situation like Morgan Wallen, the repercussions they faced would be much greater. However as we can assess now, the exact opposite is the case. I take no judgement upon which incident was worse, either in this article, or now, or personally. But I believe they are both bad, both deserved to be addressed, and apologized for. Yet at this moment, only one has.
February 9, 2021 @ 11:09 am
I get what you’re saying but that’s my point. I wasn’t speaking to which was worse. Media doesn’t do as well with inexplicit allegations of passive aggressive business relationships with implications revolving around race and gender intersectionality. There is always gonna be a bigger media/social media response regarding something clearly definable and tangible. To speculate that a woman would get a pass based off this assessment is just that: speculation. There is not a strong point being made here that “the exact opposite is the case”, just presupposition that if there were a similar situation, it would be. In that regard, your assessment is guilty of the same thing it criticizes in Ballarini and Morris’s tweets….since the two incidents are really nothing alike, and there is an obvious “tangible vs intangible” element to the relative degree of media coverage, it’s all just speculative. I’m not saying that many media and social media pundits didn’t give one the benefit of the doubt but not the other but one is undeniable and the other much more complicated. I would argue that is the primary reason for decrepencies in media cover more so than an obvious double standard. Or atleast, I don’t see a solid case being made to support that assessment.
February 9, 2021 @ 10:38 pm
It really hasn’t occurred that maybe the media response was different precisely BECAUSE the situations are SO different in magnitude. You acknowledge the distinction then dismiss it. Sometimes in the same sentence.
WTH is happening here.
February 9, 2021 @ 10:45 pm
There was no media response to the Mickey Guyton situation. Nothing. There was no coverage of Kristen Hall. There were no corrections offered when Valerie June’s performance on the ACMs was forgotten. Nothing.
Do you think that when the only black female in mainstream country flew across the country, only to be disinvited last minute from a video shoot, and felt so injured she decided to write an op/ed about it, that at least one outlet beyond Saving Country Music would at least mention it? That all the individuals on woke Twitter would at least Tweet about it? ANYTHING?
Saying, “Yeah, but Morgan Wallen was worse” is no excuse. Either you’re against exclusionary behavior and racism, or you’re not. And if you believe that the Mickey Guyton situation deserves no coverage or discussion whatsoever, then you’re clearly for exclusion.
February 10, 2021 @ 4:16 pm
Trigger,
You’re claiming exclusionary behavior and racism, without evidence.
Your position, is that nothing bad can happen to a minority that isn’t a slight against that person’s identity. It’s nonsense.
February 9, 2021 @ 5:46 pm
Oh…spanky.
Not sure whether to be irritated at the racism or amused at the projection, you pathetic quisling.
February 9, 2021 @ 10:14 am
At a time when Wallen’s sales are climbing following the incident you decided it would be good to spend 3000 words going after those holding Wallen accountable. You’re labeled as racist, sexist, homophobic because you don’t spend 3000 words going after the folks continuing to back Wallen or the folks bailing on folks like Sturgill when they speak out. Those folks get little “to be sure” lines from you, but the real focus of your ire are the people (predominantly women) holding them to account. You’re like the people always telling black people how to protest but never putting equal energy into protesting with them even when they do it in ways that fits your rules for how to do it.
February 9, 2021 @ 10:17 am
Also for anyone here, I recommend not reading Trigger ever when he goes on these rants, but read stuff like this instead: https://tressiemcphd.medium.com/this-land-is-your-land-37eeb7b48958
February 9, 2021 @ 10:41 am
And you think Tressie has never exclaimed anything that sounds like, white bitch?
Laughing.
And yeah Trigger, you just better watch out, we’re all headed over to a site, where Tressie can tell us how prejudiced we are.
Uh-huh
February 9, 2021 @ 3:26 pm
Recommend to your heart’s desire if it makes you feel better. I am a 63 year old woman who still has the freedom to chooses what I want to read.
February 11, 2021 @ 8:19 am
That article is laughable.
CBS is a conservative network? Maybe to the extreme left.
Just another person wanting to fundamentally change the country music genre.
February 9, 2021 @ 10:48 am
In this article, I directly addressed the perceived double standard by Morgan Wallen fans that is directly feeding his current sales surge. That double standard is just as indefensible as the double standard for how the media covers artists in a protected elite class for taking favorable stances on social issues on social media. BOTH of these double standard issues is what this article is about.
Morgan Wallen’s actions are indefensible and inexcusable, and I have addressed them directly, and on numerous occasions, including before this latest incident. If you want, you can read them here:
https://savingcountrymusic.com/morgan-wallens-n-word-proves-hes-unworthy-of-praise-prominence/
https://savingcountrymusic.com/album-review-morgan-wallen-dangerous-the-double-album/
I also addressed the surge in his sales specifically, and you can read that here:
https://savingcountrymusic.com/morgan-wallen-music-sales-skyrocket-amid-cancellation/
But I chose not to load this particular article up with redundancies about how terrible Morgan Wallen’s actions were. We already covered that ad nauseum. But if country music is serious about eliminating the exclusion of minority and marginalized performers as think piece after think piece is demanding it does, then it must address ALL instances, and with a equal hand, as opposed to sheltering certain artists.
And I’m not “going after” anyone. I’m simply giving a broader picture of this issue in context. And yes, it took a lot of words. These are complex issues, and deserve deep discussion.
February 9, 2021 @ 11:19 am
“Morgan Wallen’s actions are indefensible and inexcusable, …”
Horse shit.
You are being too heavy handed.
The guy was farting around with a friend.
So what?
You have not said some really stupid shit, with friends?
If you think you haven’t, you need to sit back, relax and rethink.
To continue this line of discussion, a list of all transgressions, by every musician is going to be needed.
Going to need every white person to ante up to how many times they have said something they would not want in the public domain.
Going to need every black person to ante up to how many times they have said something they would not want in the public domain.
Sincere apologies to Gabe Lee, di harris, Hispanics, Cubanos, Sudanese/Ethiopian friends, and others, who have lineages that are not totally defined in black and white.
Other than the thugs, both Black & White, who are perpetuating real violence and harm, in the Pacific NorthWest, California (see Chinatown), Chicago, the East, around the globe, in the name of ____________ (choose one), those of us who live in the real world, are getting along great with others. We don’t live to pillage & destroy.
We work hard, enjoy life, help our neighbors.
Continually throwing kerosene on a fire gets nowhere.
And yes, we know about all the woke women whos apparent job it is to stalk the internet, looking for their next victim they demand be cancelled.
Is no one getting laid anymore?
No relaxing happening?
February 9, 2021 @ 5:49 pm
Stop it, Di. I might ask you to marry me if you keep posting with such clarity!
The only song I’ve ever heard from Morgan Wallen is his reading of ‘King of the Woke Ones’ Jason Isbell’s “Cover Me Up.” As much as I think Isbell is an insufferable prick whose music gets weaker the more awake he becomes, Wallen’s version didn’t hold a candle to the King’s original.
But this isn’t about music, it’s about a young man who needs help. He needs someone to step in and say, “its time for rehab, son; time to take care of yourself and get your head right.” Anyone who thinks the guy is a racist has been spending too much time riding the SJW train. It’s time to let this go.
Every single person on the planet has fucked up many times and done and said stupid shit, even the self-righteous ‘woke’ ones (who if they were any less awake would be dead) do and say dumb stuff all the time. It’s called being human. Put away the soap boxes, folks. (Mines going back in the closet after I’m done typing this comment!)
I see in the not too distant future the cancel culture clowns cancelling each other, and it is going to be entertaining.
February 12, 2021 @ 1:50 pm
Also “she (Miranda Lambert in Trigger’s quote) broke up their marriage” is sexist because it takes all accountability away from Evan and blames a woman.
February 12, 2021 @ 2:35 pm
I have addressed the Miranda Lambert/Evan Felker situation many times before, and in NO WAY put the fault on Miranda solely, or removed the fault from Evan Felker. Nor have I done that here. The reason it was mentioned in this article was an example of a female artist that had done things that resulted in negative press, and it did not appreciably injure their career and cause them to be “cancelled,” as asserted by Maren Morris and Kelsea Ballerini.
February 12, 2021 @ 3:59 pm
That’s disingenuous Trigger, your exact quote in the article states that Lambert was responsible.
February 12, 2021 @ 8:32 pm
Don’t be so touchy. This is not an article about Miranda Lambert. You’re acting like I’m unilaterally calling Miranda Lambert out for something that has already been long gone and buried. But yes, Miranda Lambert was responsible. It takes two to tango, and there’s nothing “sexist” about it. Evan Felker is responsible too.
February 16, 2021 @ 9:40 am
That’s not being “touchy” Trigger, that’s holding you to your own writing. Just offering a correction and owning that you did place all the blame on Lambert after you denied that you wrote that in your article would have been the honest thing to do rather than being evasive.
February 9, 2021 @ 10:30 am
I’m usually a supporter but I think you missed the mark in even attempting to explain why Morgan was saying what he said and the context he said it. It does not matter, there’s no defending what he said. He is guilty and that should be it. You came across in some parts of this as trying to take up for him or giving people reasons it was okay for him. And that is wrong of you. This column was better left unwritten.
February 9, 2021 @ 2:15 pm
This is the problem with rhetoric and media today. You are expected to remove the context. You are supposed to only paint in black and white. You’re not allowed to speak to the nuance of issues, or you will cross swords with both sides. And that is why we are failing as a society.
Is what Morgan said wrong? Yes. Did he use the song as a slur meant to offend towards a person of color? No. Is he a racist? I don’t have enough evidence to make that claim because I don’t know him personally. Someone who does, and is black, is refuting that claim, while also addressing his faults.
February 9, 2021 @ 10:36 am
Very well said.
Even from the more “progressive” side of country music, it seems as tho the industry is only interested in Mickey Guyton to show off the tokenism she offers. They’ll name-drop Mickey and give her a photo-op, but have little interest in supporting her music.
February 9, 2021 @ 10:48 am
Everybody is in a race to be the most enlightened one instead of just being real.
February 9, 2021 @ 11:09 am
Long time listener, first time caller.
Just wanted to say that the comments section here is a real circle jerk. Where do i get the koolaid?
February 9, 2021 @ 11:13 am
Circle jerk?
I’m seeing detailed observations from differing viewpoints that makes for healthy discussion, including dissenting viewpoints from my own. I’m very happy with the discussion so far.
February 9, 2021 @ 12:13 pm
lol wut? I wouldn’t call this comment thread an echo chamber by any means.
February 9, 2021 @ 2:08 pm
Stop projecting your fantasies on comment sections.
February 9, 2021 @ 11:12 am
Oh and i bet that Mickey Guyton just loves you using her comments to support your argument. Hahaha.
February 9, 2021 @ 12:17 pm
I think Mickey Guyton supports standing up against the exclusion of black and marginalized artists no matter where it happens, or who is behind it.
February 9, 2021 @ 2:51 pm
“morgan wallen said the n-word? oh boys will be boys” – mickey guyton, probably, according to trigger
February 9, 2021 @ 2:58 pm
Been seeing a lot of folks over the last few days grossly mischaracterizing my opinions on Morgan Wallen by putting words in my mouth. I couldn’t be more clear: What Morgan Wallen said was terrible and inexcusable. I have never, and would never say, “Boys will be boys.” And by the way, I am the ONLY country music outlet on record severely questioning Morgan Wallen’s character and anointment before this incident. Glad to see the rest of the media join me.
February 9, 2021 @ 3:22 pm
you can’t say it was terrible and inexcusable and then make excuses for it, which you have and are continuing to do so:
“This instance seems more like him trying to be a tough guy than harboring racial insensitivity.”
“But you can tell by the video, he’s used to slipping into this tough guy mode and using it casually.”
“But part and parcel to that, you get racist language, you get rank misogyny and materialism that is present in much of popular hip-hop. As Cameron said above, he was trying to be Lil Wayne.”
“My only point is to me, Morgan Wallen was trying to be a tough guy.”
“But you’re right, he was drunk, and switched into hip-hop tough guy mode, and someone with a Ring doorbell camera nabbed it.”
“All I was trying to say is that when contextualizing what I see on the video, this is Morgan Wallen flexing beer muscles and trying to be a tough guy, and screaming an offensive word to other affluent whites,”
“I agree there is a difference between yelling this word at a black person looking to cut them down with a racial slur, and being a drunk moron jawing off with your buddies.”
February 9, 2021 @ 3:41 pm
Morgan Wallen deserves whatever consequences he has coming to him. Quote me all you want, but you won’t find me saying his punishment has been unfair, or unwarranted. But there are a bunch of people wondering why his sales are skyrocketing while people scream about what a racist he is. It’s because they are addressing the symptom, not the cause. By inserting the context back into the argument, I am trying to address the cause. Or, keeping screaming about how much of a racist he is. All you’re doing is making Morgan Wallen a folk hero in the minds of his fans.
February 9, 2021 @ 11:25 am
Trigger, feel free to delete this if it’s inappropriate:
For anyone for whom these incidents made you wonder about Black people doing country music in general, here’s a huge list:
https://www.reddit.com/r/CountryMusic/comments/ladt08/upcoming_rcountrymusic_has_a_ton_of_stuff_planned/gly7hww?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
this list also happens to include a lot of old-time music and some bluegrass and a few country blues greats plus a few folkies/Americana artists, because that subreddit runs a Bluegrass/Country Blues day as well as posting stuff from all the related subgenres of actual country music.
Anyway, there is a HUGE variety of great music from these artists, old and new. Some of the new ones are making pop (and then there’s Cowboy Troy and Breland and Lil Nas X for various reasons…) but it’s my impression that there seems to be a small trend towards Black artists making music that sounds like twangy rockin 90’s country (Coffey Anderson, Chapel Hart, Aaron Vance, Michael Warren, some less-known folks I’ve run across). I’m speculating maybe that’s because they wouldn’t be taken seriously as country artists if they were branching out more stylistically to modern pop country or whatever, but it’s good music nonetheless. Check them out, there are some serious gems in several styles.
Did you know there’s a country music scene in Kenya of all places? And a bunch of them are doing a classic country sound? I didn’t either.
February 10, 2021 @ 11:32 am
Damn it! Wish I’d seen this sooner… But still I put together a three hour mix for black history month a lot of similar names but that gives me even more to work with, when I do my regular country music stream thanks.
February 9, 2021 @ 11:35 am
I think a significant aspect of the Wallen reaction is due to “Tall Poppy Syndrome”. Generally speaking the more notoriety someone achieves, the more others will be looking for opportunities to undercut their success. That’s not in any defense of Wallen, I honestly think the industry’s actions are valid, but Nashville sent him on a meteoric rise in spite of all the red flags and displays of poor judgement. There shouldn’t be any surprise that he screwed up in one of the worst ways imaginable in this current social climate. Not to underplay the difficulties women do face, but I think that his notoriety was the much bigger aspect. This same situation happens with one of the 15 basic Nashville bros named some variation of “Bryce Young” and the video never gets sent to a news outlet or people just do not react in the same way.
February 9, 2021 @ 11:35 am
All this is fine and good, or worse and bad, depending on your outlook.
What about the neighbor? Nobody cares about tattletales anymore? The Neighbor is the giant friggin elephant in the room that no one is talking about.
February 9, 2021 @ 2:56 pm
if you see something that is wrong, don’t say anything – mouths of babes
this neighbor lives next to this loud drunk racist asshole and is probably pretty fed up with him screaming in the street in the middle of the night. good on them.
February 9, 2021 @ 11:40 am
1. Got to agree with Chucky Waggs. Seems like apples to oranges comparison.
2. First person I thought of that felt few repercussions was Miranda. But then again, there’s many male and female artists who’ve gone down the tawdry affair, bust up a hotel, bust up a person road and managed to avoid repercussions. Morgan’s offense is quite different.
3. About half way through, the article took a hard turn toward “here’s my chance to call out everyone who called me names”. Indeed making it some about SCM. Not sure how that added to the article’s premise. Sticks and stones, brother.
February 9, 2021 @ 12:48 pm
I think the Hodge Twins covered this best.
February 9, 2021 @ 2:54 pm
I not so lacking in self-awareness that I can’t see that addressing the blowback I have received from artists and my fellow members of the media in this article would be perceived as self-centered. But it is also critically important to this subject. When you only have one outlet report on important stories—whether it’s the Mickey Guyton disinvitation, Jennifer Nettles receiving an “Equal Play” award after kicking out a LGBT member from her band, or other things such as Florida Georgia Line stealing the chorus from Kane Brown’s “Short Skirt Weather” and then later having to fess up to it and include him in the credits—and this same outlet is the one everyone on Twitter is ganging up against to deplatform and stifle the voice of, I think that is noteworthy, and a critical part of this story.
They don’t want you to know what happened to Mickey Guyton. They don’t want you to know about Jennifer Nettles. So they run interference for them, and that includes assassinating my character, because there is no logical answers or excuses for these actions.
February 10, 2021 @ 2:33 pm
You are self-centered,. That’s how we knew that this article, and 50% of the comments, would be centered around Isbell.
You’re predictable, and should be ashamed that you always look for ways to needle Isbell vis-a-vis anyone, and in this instance it’s The Highwomen and Wallen.
Wouldn’tt say you’re an incel per se, but it seems like Isbell’s criticisms must’ve struck a chord.
Lastly, Wallen’s sales are peaking because a bunch oF racists are buying his albums, not because they are pondering the nuances of the situation, and to paint it otherwise is disingenuous.
February 10, 2021 @ 3:37 pm
” it seems like Isbell’s criticisms must’ve struck a chord.”
Yeah, it struck a chord. It struck a HUGE chord. I’ve had to report on too many young males who have died in isolation over the last year for it not to strike a chord. These were artists that I admired. These were artists that I had covered and interacted with over the course of their careers. And now they’re dead. And one of the reasons they’re dead is because they were isolated and alone. So yeah, it strikes a fucking chord with me. How dare you accuse someone of being “involuntarily celibate” when so many are out of work, and trying to do the right thing, especially in the musician class.
February 11, 2021 @ 8:45 am
I feel as though the tone, and content, of your reply prove the point I was trying to make, albeit sloppily.
The “involuntarily celibate” insult is seemingly fueling much of the fire of your initial post, which was simply yet another vehicle for you to insert a retort towards Jason instead of staying on topic. I think you do have cause to be pissed at Jason’s insult, but struggle to see how that pertains to your post.
So, I’ll rephrase into a question – why did you decide it was good form to wedge in criticisms of Jason into your observations of the relationship b/w Wallen’s racism vs. The perceived exclusionary tactics of The Highwomen?
*Note: I seldom leave comments on this website, but can say that I appreciate your responses. Full disclosure: I’m am Isbell fanboy, and my politics align with his. So, I think your criticisms are healthy for me to keep my platitudes in check. Furthermore, you’ve responded to me each of the few times I’ve posted, and that says a great deal about your commitment to your work, and the interaction you cultivate with your readers. To that end, I don’t always agree with you, but know that you will speak your mind… Thanks for your candor.
February 11, 2021 @ 3:01 pm
The point of this article is to underscore how there is a protected class of musicians who are apparently above criticism and accountability due to their coziness with the press and their signaling aligned with social causes. Jason Isbell who regularly bullies people online is part of that protected class. Nobody questioned when he asserted he wrote the first gay country song because you can’t criticize Jason Isbell, similar to The Highwomen. Nor does anyone bat an eyelash when unprovoked, he calls a journalist an “incel.” In fact, multiple journalists applauded Isbell for the insult, as they do for many of the insults he throws out. This is where the real double standard is.
February 11, 2021 @ 4:50 pm
I understood you perfectly. While the situations are completely different, if a white female country singer has done what Morgan did they would not have had the repercussions that he has had.
February 12, 2021 @ 4:40 am
Zac Brown was fine after getting busted with girls and blow in his room, haha!
Also…only one of those two was cheating, and it wasn’t Miranda.
February 9, 2021 @ 11:45 am
Trig,
Margo Price screenshot & tweeted your comment the other day lol.
She reads your blog. Hi Margo!!!!????
February 9, 2021 @ 12:06 pm
Margo Price screenshot nothing. She was fed it by the very people I talked about in that comment. Posting that comment validates it.
February 9, 2021 @ 7:50 pm
I’ll just make ok platforming and sharing someone I preached about not sharing and platforming by crossing out his name!
February 9, 2021 @ 11:49 am
They won’t ever accept a spotlight on their own hypocrisy. They’ll dig their heels in and project it back on you, if they acknowledge it at all.
Kudos for having the guts to call it out, but be ready for the mental gymnastics.
And for the record, the casual, “while I’m at it” Lambert/Felker mention was superb.
February 9, 2021 @ 12:16 pm
Trig,
Keep on truckin’ brother. Give ’em all the hell they deserve.
These “journalists” in Nashville are pissed because you’re a threat to them. They won’t admit that because they have all these years of ass-kissing the Nashville machine and nothing to show for it. Then you come along and build your brand from the ground up on your own. You get more exposure in Nashville than they do so they try to tear down what you’ve created by calling you racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. with ZERO proof to offer.
They can only cry wolf for so long.
The ones with a brain see it.
The ones with emotion do not.
When the final nail is hammered into their archaic profession, take solace in the fact that you’ll still be around, introducing us to the authentic country music that we crave.
February 10, 2021 @ 7:58 am
AMEN! You saved me typing that, and did a better job that I would have- Thanks!
But, I do want to add; the superiority complex phenomenon is driven by an inferiority feeling- both come from not being intellectual and relying on emotion-
IMNSHO Trigger is the *most* objective “journalist” (in any realm) in this day and time- all you ass wipes taking him to task for what you *feel* is a sin really ought to take a look in a mirror and hope it doesn’t crack-
I expressed my opinion about wallen in another write up- but, for the woke crowd, I’ll say it again- KAREN- get a fucking life for cryin out loud- instead of demanding the killing you so fervently hope for- good lord- you people are pathetic-
February 9, 2021 @ 1:07 pm
Good gosh the “gay country song!” Isbell story is pathetic. He’s such a woke warrior, completely missing in his statement how much of a narcissistic ass he is with the whole “I was on an elliptical in Jackson hole.” I’m well aware that at least over half of the singers I like don’t share my politics, but Isbell is so over the top self-righteous and annoying about it that it’s almost impossible for me to set apart the music from the man.
February 9, 2021 @ 1:10 pm
I’m glad I have a mint vinyl copy of white Mansions before it is inevitably scrubbed from existence.
February 9, 2021 @ 1:39 pm
Bye Bye. Have had enough of this crap.
February 9, 2021 @ 6:34 pm
Dont let the door hit your split, Paddy.
February 9, 2021 @ 1:49 pm
May I add another similar scenario? Morgan Wallen’s career has not yet reached his peak, although his streaming numbers are something nothing Nashville has ever seen. I still consider him a B-level country singer because he has yet to headline a concert tour, sell out stadiums/arenas, etc. I know NO ONE has been selling out stadiums, but his actions in the past nine months do not show that he has his eyes on the future. If he had been worried, the SNL debacle should have scared him straight, especially after the ass chewing he probably received from his management and record label.
So, let’s turn the tables on Morgan’s situation. If a B-level female singer (i.e. Ashley McBryde) would have been caught sucking face with fans during the Covid virus, had a child out of wedlock, got dropped from a major show, supposedly went into hibernation to work on herself, showed up at an awards show to receive Best New Artist within a few weeks, got rebooked on said major show and made fun of her suck-face situation and lastly started calling another female the dreaded C-word and included the N-word in her “chick talk versus dude talk,” would not only end her career, but she would have been sent packing on the next bus to Get the Hell Out of Dodge, USA.
Morgan Wallen is yet another singer who thinks he is so cool he is above getting called out. Even worse, his handlers couldn’t handle him long enough to reel him in and talk to him about career suicide. For every Morgan Wallen out there, there are 10 more on Lower Broadway who are just as talented, better looking and doesn’t have to resort to wearing a mullet to make himself stand out from the rest.
February 9, 2021 @ 1:57 pm
that is a lot of words to whataboutism on some liberal women you don’t agree with and downplay the actions of a white guy who said the n-word.
you give wallen the benefit of the doubt for using the n-word (he’s not racist, he’s just a fan of rap music and his friend was white) but won’t do the same for the highwaywomen situation despite not knowing the real situation.
talk about double standards.
February 9, 2021 @ 2:27 pm
Is it really the “real situation” or a carefully crafted cover-your-ass PR statement?
February 9, 2021 @ 2:42 pm
It’s very very simple. The Highwomen were never asked to answer for their actions. Neither was Jennifer Nettles, Jason Isbell, and others. Morgan Wallen was. Morgan Wallen apologized publicly. The Highwomen and Jennifer Nettles never have. If you want to think the Morgan Wallen situation is way worse, totally understand. But Mickey Guyton deserved a public explanation and apology for what happened. And the reason she’s never received it is because the media is running interference. That is a double standard.
February 9, 2021 @ 2:02 pm
Wonder what the Liebigs and Mosses think of Rakiyah Marshall and her comments?
You’ll notice they haven’t fired up the ol’ Twitter Machine to touch on that.
They know better: they don’t want their own prejudices, bigotries, and racism exposed.
Hypocrites.
February 10, 2021 @ 1:02 am
Jason Isbell isn’t a King, he’s a bitch. A soy fed, beta bitch.
Isbell, I know you and your minions read this.
You’re a bitch.
February 11, 2021 @ 5:30 pm
Huh? Marshall’s Instagram post was obliterated by “woke Twitter” (including Maren Morris, whose comment was then shared by Moss), albeit in a slightly different sense.
There was a viral thread calling out the various white country women, like Maddie Marlow, Danielle Bradbery, Abby Anderson, etc, who posted words/emoji of support for Marshall’s comment. It hit on the narrative that people are looking for any opportunity to redeem a white man.
Granted, the thread does take Marshall to task for being reckless in forgiving Wallen at this point in time. It also included a “she doesn’t represent all black people” note and was frankly hypocritically dismissive of Marshall as the “girlfriend of the CEO of Big Loud,” which is the same type of misogynist labeling that usually infuriates the blue check mark crowd.
February 9, 2021 @ 2:12 pm
CHECK YOURSELF MICKEY GUYTON! Shame on YOU for leaving your husband at home who “almost died of sepsis” to go to a party to better YOUR career in country music. Sheesh, I am so tired of listening to you. You and Maren and your little feminist squad need to stick to what you’re getting paid to do and that’s entertain. Live and let live “Sis”!
February 9, 2021 @ 2:24 pm
Bad comment.
February 9, 2021 @ 4:01 pm
Back up Hoss.
“On one occasion, I left my ailing husband, who almost died from sepsis, in California just four days after his life-saving surgery because I had been invited to be a part of a female empowerment music video full of these same women. I arrived at the airport exhausted but excited.”
This has needed to be addressed for a LONG time.
A TRULY empowered female would have stayed by her husband. Until that time it was apparent he would not die during her absence, during that particular affliction. If you are not willing to meet your obligations to your spouse in a time such as this, the only person who really matters to you (in that relationship) is yourself. Success & fame chances do not come around just once in a lifetime.
And look what she ran to – Nothing but a self serving group of idiots that were never, and never going to, be her friend.
Rest assured there are plenty of white females pulling for Mickey & wishing her great success in what brings her joy.
You are female? Then Sister, get used to being stabbed in the back, especially by other females, who are jealous of you, & your successes.
But take care of business at home first, and during.
Then go blow the doors off what you are doing.
But if Mickey keeps behaving in a negative way, people are going to walk away.
Agree Trigger, the “highwomen” – (that name is just SO BAD & LAUGHABLE) need their butts raked over the coals for what they did to Guyton.
Any one of them could have said, “Wait A Minute, i am not going to record this without Mickey.”
But none of those “lowwomen” losers have integrity, do they.
February 12, 2021 @ 2:04 pm
Show me an example when you’ve every criticized a male artist for choosing to do something for his career over being with his family. I’ll wait.
February 9, 2021 @ 2:14 pm
I’m not sure I 100% agree with your assessment of Morris’s statement. One comparison that I think might make sense here is the reaction to Jason Andean and Leann Rimes’ affairs. Aldean, while facing some backlash, largely had his affair ignored and continues to be a prominent voice on country radio. Leann Rimes was no where near the peak of her career when her affair was discovered but faced huge backlash, and has hasn’t had a prominent hit since. She has almost become forgotten by country music despite her massive success. She was vilified even though she married the man she had the affair with, the same way Aldean married Kerr. I think this is the comparison Morris was trying to make. That isn’t to say the Guyton piece doesn’t have some connection here that is worth noting and exploring, but I think it’s important to also look at this side as well.
February 9, 2021 @ 2:45 pm
I think that on whole, country music will forgive personal indiscretions of the heart, and has done so throughout history. Understand the difference between Aldean and Rimes, but Leann’s career was already in a weird place when that happened. Like so many artists, Curb Records did their worst on her, and that’s probably the true villain there.
February 9, 2021 @ 2:19 pm
What is missed is that this was about the use of a racist slur and racism, but the white girls jumped in and tried to make it about them. As usual. Sometimes white people need to just shut up and listen.
February 9, 2021 @ 2:47 pm
Bingo. A lot of posturing going on here. Some people see it a mile away and others eat it up like the sheep they are (apparent in this comment section as well).
As usually Trigger, you’re one of the only people in this realm with any guts whatsoever.
February 9, 2021 @ 3:07 pm
trigger is the biggest posturer of them all. this article is thousands of words of posturing compared to less than 140 characters that captured his ire.
February 9, 2021 @ 3:35 pm
I disagree. He was pretty thorough here because he had to be. What he is saying is easy to be misconstrued, and rather than countering any of his points, you’re finding something else to criticize him for, by counting words of all things. Not very convincing.
February 9, 2021 @ 4:30 pm
He’s pretty much admitting he thought Trigger post was too long, and didn’t bother to read it. lol
February 9, 2021 @ 2:33 pm
I am now officially declaring victim-hood a national past time like apple pie or baseball. It is hard to help and get behind issues when people keep moving the goal posts to fit their needs.
February 9, 2021 @ 2:37 pm
Morgan Wallen’s incident in my mind is less offensive that the Mickey Guyton incident because Mickey’s situation points the deeper system issues in the genre of country and the country as a hole, as opposed to one bloke using free speech to say his mind. And that’s the one these women don’t want to address because it DIRECTLY involves them looking in the mirror at what role they play in all this.
February 9, 2021 @ 3:47 pm
Stop using “free speech” as a cover for bad behavior. “Free speech” doesn’t mean free from consequences.
February 10, 2021 @ 11:17 am
I am not using “free speech” to as cover for bad behavior I am saying that it is less offensive to me/important to than the systemic sexist/racist issues these women refuse to address because they are directly involved.
February 9, 2021 @ 2:47 pm
Why isn’t radio playing any of Mickey Guyton’s songs? I thought last September at the ACMs was her big breakout moment… Sadly if that moment in 2020 couldn’t get her more radio spins… then nothing will.
February 9, 2021 @ 2:52 pm
The underground Margo Price “Men take down ” group are really out here – reading every comment on this website. My freedom of speech seems threatened.
Please Trig, never provide anyone with our IP addresses or email info. I’m scared to death. These women are out to cancel us…
????
February 9, 2021 @ 2:52 pm
….”But the public does deserve a detailed explanation of what happened to Mickey Guyton.”……..
Why? What are you insinuating? Are you so obsessed with racialism, that you believe anything negative that happens to a non-white person, must’ve happened because of their race? Why would you think that? In what universe is that a normal, healthy, mentally-stable reaction? Are you pandering? WHAT ARE YOU DOING? I don’t get it; I seriously don’t. It’s creepy, and you should stop.
“The public deserves”?!?!? Piss off.
This whole article takes multiple false premises and stacks them on top of each other to form a bullcrap narrative. The stack is so tall, that by the end, most people forget what the foundation of the stack is. The foundational false premise is that n!&-#r is a forbidden word that no white person is allowed to say under any circumstances, ever. This is verifiably false. You can go on YouTube and find male 20-somethings of every race using this word toward their friends of the same race or different races.
You can find:
Blacks calling whites n!&-#r,
whites calling blacks n!&-#r,
asians calling hispanics n!&-#r,
asians calling asians n!&-#r,
arabics calling arabics n!&-#r,
hispanics calling whites n!&-#r,
blacks calling asians n!&-#r, and on and on and on.
The reason you can find these instances, is because, despite the concerted efforts of PASTY-WHITE, mostly middle to upper middle-class, neurotic urban snowflakes, mostly between 21 and 38 years old, to recreate an environment similar to the early 1960’s, America has by and large moved on. The generation that is now starting to graduate college, has grown up in a culture heavily, and I mean heavily, influenced by Rap and the culture of Rap, including it’s language, and it’s vocal inflections. City kids of all races not only use words like n!&-#r, some even take on what would be considered an urban, or Rap accent when speaking.
It’s so deep in the culture, that even small-town kids from places that are still considered rural-America(as if that truly even exists anymore) show signs of it in their music and language…………
That’s where we find Morgan Wallen. His use of this word does nothing but solidify the fact that he isn’t a legitimate product of a truly old-school, rural southern upbringing. Not that he’s claimed to be, but his image seems to be built around that notion. The fact is, white, rural Southerners over 40 would never dream of using that word unless they actually were racist and were using it in a racist context toward a black person.
For example: Can you imagine Brad Paisley(under 50) walking up to Jamey Johnson(also under 50) and saying, in a friendly context, “Yo Jamey, you know you can’t hold your liquor, you pu$$y a$$ n!&-#r!” ?
I can’t. That’s because they grew up in world where there was only one purpose for that word.
February 9, 2021 @ 3:53 pm
Wallen used the word as someone in the forties would have used it – as a degrading, demeaning term. The difference between the way he used it and the newer form of the word without the -er and as a familiar term of friendship among black people is obvious. Stop excusing the mulleted slug.
February 9, 2021 @ 4:30 pm
…….”Wallen used the word as someone in the forties would have used it“………
Oh wow! Is there another video that I’m unaware of, where Morgan Wallen screams, “I’m gonna fu(&ing kill you, you piece of sh!t n!&#r!”, to a black person?
February 9, 2021 @ 5:05 pm
that is a lot of projection
February 9, 2021 @ 5:33 pm
Honky! I agree with you 100% thre fact that people dont understand just shows how stupid, uneducated, misinformed, hypocritical, double sided, and delusional they are
February 10, 2021 @ 7:28 am
It’s also important to note, that when Karen Boriserini says “this does not represent country music”, she’s only right if she’s referring to country(lowercase c) music, that is, music that is authentically rural in nature.
It doesn’t represent country music, because country music is performed by country people, and saying the word n!&-#r in the way that Wallen did, simply isn’t a country thing to do; it’s not rural lingo to call your buddies a n!&-#r in any context.
But if you put a capital ‘C’ on Country, and are referring to the industry, then she couldn’t be more wrong; the Wallen thing absolutely represents an industry heavily influenced by Rap. This is an industry voiced by young men who listen to Rap more than they listen to Hank and Lefty. Of course they use Rap lingo with their friends.
February 11, 2021 @ 5:21 am
I think you got lost on the way to the Teen Vogue website.
February 9, 2021 @ 2:56 pm
Just sing songs about how much you love minorities and nobody will ever suspect a thing.
Article was spot on
February 9, 2021 @ 3:19 pm
Good article. One question I haven’t seen asked yet. With his contract “suspended indefinitely” does that mean he could release all the music he wants independently without consent from the record label? Just curious honestly.
February 9, 2021 @ 3:37 pm
Contracts are there to hold parties to obligations. There has been a lot of hand wringing about Big Loud not dropping Morgan Wallen, but suspending him. But unless there is a clause in his contract that allows for him to be dropped over these kids of circumstances, they can’t. I have read a few reports on this, and nobody seems to know the particulars of Morgan Wallen’s contract. That is why I don’t feel comfortable saying one way or another how Big Loud is handling this is fair or unfair. It truly matters on the contract.
His publisher, for example (I think it’s BMI), physically can’t drop his contract. They are contractually obligated to represent his music regardless of what happens, including death.
February 9, 2021 @ 3:30 pm
I’m glad I have a real life instead of getting myself tied into knots over the use of the n-word or some other “political incorrectness.”
For all you who DO get yourself tied into knots over such, then I sincerely pity you for living inconsequential little lives defined by perpetual outrage and meaningless virtue signalling.
Have a nice day.
February 9, 2021 @ 3:42 pm
who lives the more inconsequential little life – you, a bigot? or people that have compassion for others and the way they’ve been treated for centuries?
February 9, 2021 @ 4:15 pm
gentile:
You pathetically, bur predictably revert to Response 1, Page 1 of the Liberal Handbook, which states, “Those with whom you disagree, regardless of the subject, are bigots and racists.”
Do you ever get the slightest urge to think for yourself?
If so, I heartily advise you to do just that.
Who knows, you might even like doing so!
February 9, 2021 @ 4:31 pm
Guys,
Once again, we’re not doing this back and forth meaningless crap. Say something worthy of this topic of discussion, or move on. Thank you.
February 9, 2021 @ 5:36 pm
You people have “compassion” for people unless they disagree with you. You’re a whit liberal who thinks they are helping out the black community. What’s more racist? The fact that you believe the black community needs white liberal help, or someone saying a word to nobody?
February 9, 2021 @ 6:06 pm
thank you for acknowledging that compassion is now a sad, political line in the sand. it reminds me of another famous line in the sand story… what do we think jesus would do in this situation? i bet it’s not say the n-word and rationalize it by saying well black people can say it why can’t i, the son of god, say it too?!?! i bet he would have compassion. i bet i know what political party he would belong to. i bet some of the readership here would call that middle eastern guy a few choice words too.
February 10, 2021 @ 5:57 am
I’m not rationalizing anything. You dont see the hypocrisy in mainstream radio cancelling a guy for saying a word that 90% of songs on top 40 radio uses? And Jesus sure wouldnt be on the side for abortion and homosexual rights and numerous genders. I dont think He would have a political party because He is the truth.
February 10, 2021 @ 7:29 am
you think 90% of the songs on the radio are dropping the n-word, unedited? i don’t think you listen to the radio.
thank you for broadcasting your bigotry, again.
February 10, 2021 @ 9:42 am
Where did I say unedited? And of course you resort to the old liberal standby of you dont agree with me, you’re a bigot.
February 10, 2021 @ 9:48 am
And why do you bring up Jesus when you stand against everything He is?
February 10, 2021 @ 10:03 am
i called you a bigot because you hate gay and trans people.
i believe jesus said: “This is my commandment, that ye love one another, even as I have loved you.”
i don’t believe he included any asterisks excluding anyone in that statement.
i believe he also said: “Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you.”
even the old testament has things to say about it: “‘Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against anyone among your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the LORD.”
“Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen.”
it’s pretty clear what side jesus would be on and it wouldn’t be the side that constantly guts programs to help people or infringe on their rights to live the way they want. even the pope is down with gay people.
February 10, 2021 @ 10:40 am
Politics and religion folks. I really wish folks would avoid it unless it is critical to the topic at hand. Please keep the discussion on topic.
February 9, 2021 @ 3:54 pm
Your comment is virtue signaling. But, whatever makes you feel special.
February 9, 2021 @ 3:51 pm
Good god trigger you are an idiot. If black people say it, anyone else should be able to. Im not condoning calling people that, but saying it the way he said it hurt nobody. Dont we all want equal rights? Well he should be able to speak exactly like his black buddies who say it all the time.
February 9, 2021 @ 4:09 pm
Have the Highwomen thought of anything original?
Designing Women – Redesigning Women
Highwayman – Highwomen
Just Do It – I’m a Highwoman
Girls Just Wanna Have Fun – Girls Just Wanna Festival
From the Rolling Stone article linked:
“The Highwomen has become an adjective for any transcendent women’s group,” says Carlile. “For anyone who wants to step aside and amplify the women to the left and right, and not compete. Which is actually radical and revolutionary. It’s radical because it’s not easy to find. And it’s revolutionary because so many of us are afraid to admit we are competing. It’s such a hard thing to admit about yourself.”
Yeah, I just bet The Highwomen would love to find themselves in the company of a group of female country singers who are not into being woke progressive virtue signalers totally lacking in any self-awareness.
I love Isbell’s earlier music, but his self-righteousness and all-around jerkiness aren’t doing much to keep me interested. Isbell once called the drunk version of himself “intolerable.” He’s not a drunk anymore; now he’s just intolerable.
February 10, 2021 @ 11:27 am
The fact that the called themselves the HIGHwomen was something I found hilarious from the start. Highwaywomen was too much of a mouthful I guess but the other makes me giggle.
February 9, 2021 @ 4:14 pm
I’m pleased to see how you handled both sides of this. Although reading about the social issues here puts me in the exact opposite mental space than the one I would be in if I was just enjoying some music.
February 9, 2021 @ 4:36 pm
And, this is the thing Bill Burr was talking about in his SNL monologue.
“Just to refresh your memory, the ‘woke’ movement was supposed to be about people of color not getting opportunities, things that they deserve, finally making that happen. And it was about that for about 8 seconds. And then somehow white women swung their Gucci booted feet over the fence of oppression and stuck themselves at the front of the line.”
February 9, 2021 @ 6:08 pm
Love Elijah Ocean’s – Phoenix, from your ticker tape thingy!
February 9, 2021 @ 6:16 pm
Also reminds me of a meme or something I remember going around, “The sisterhood is not nearly as big as the PR for the sisterhood.”
Tlakin’ the talkin’ the talk but not walkin’ the walk I guess.
February 9, 2021 @ 6:53 pm
Hey, how ’bout that Super Bowl?
February 9, 2021 @ 7:53 pm
Maren Morris should maybe put out an actual country song sometime before she starts comparing herself to actual country musicians.
This Wallen fella, I’ve only ever heard of on this site(SCM), so, meh. Seems like a real tool and good riddance to him.
I think I listened to part of a song that was reviewed here, it didn’t do anything for me.
They put up with Wallen as long as they did because he was making them money, that’s all. Same as with the NBA/NFL/MLB guys behaving Badly… or even the hip hop guys getting busted for really dumb crimes long after they were successful.
Now he’s too hot to handle and he’s causing insurmountable problems, so he’s got to go.
Industrial Capitalism, it’s not all gold and rainbows.
February 10, 2021 @ 12:35 am
Wokeness is a religion and racism it’s original sin. People who go after others because they had a brainfart or a momentary slip of judgement, are trash tjat just wants to feel big and powerful under the guise of equality. It pisses me off immensly that it’s gets harder and harder to avoid politics when i all want is good music and a cold beer.
February 10, 2021 @ 10:37 am
Hi Pete,
I’m not looking to pick a fight with you, but I believe you and other folks on the right are missing an important point here.
Wallen didn’t have a brain fart. This was not a momentary slip of judgement.
He was filmed, by some little punk snitch-b!t@h neighbor, using a word that is part of his normal vocabulary. As a young, American male(regardless of race) under 30, his personality, his language, every fiber of his being, is influenced by Rap and Rap culture.
Morgan Wallen used a word that he uses all the time. The argument should be that he did nothing morally wrong, and that if you want everyone to stop using this word, then you should start by changing the culture that has normalized the non-racist use of the word.
As I’ve previously stated, if you want white kids to stop calling each other n!&-#rs, it would help if black kids would stop calling white kids n!&-#rs, first.
February 10, 2021 @ 11:23 am
You reminded me of a story that relates. In my area there was an incident where a kids I think like 13 was beat up for using the “no-no” word (by white kids no less). It came out at later he was Autistic and used the word because his black friend called him that regularly in place of words like “bro”, “dude” etc…
At this point we might as well all just start saying ever slur know to man just to de-weaponize them by making them so common that we just roll our eyes… but can you ever really remove power from a word like that? I don’t know.
February 12, 2021 @ 2:20 pm
Groups of people that get hateful terms used against them take back those words from the assholes that said them and use them within their group. That doesn’t then give people outside that group permission to keep using them. It’s that simple. If you and your group call yourselves “red necks” when you talk to each other that’s your business. But it’s classiest if I call you and your friends that when I don’t come from that group/background.
February 10, 2021 @ 2:36 am
you
yanks are taking this way to far…the blokes pissed ..say a word he shouldn’t
and all carrying on like its the end of the world, he said he was sorry…move on,
and you lefties need to man up abit, i would be embarrassed to be bitchin on this much
February 10, 2021 @ 6:47 am
I don’t care about anyone mentioned in this article. If everyone fell off of a cliff, I wouldn’t loose a minute of sleep.
February 10, 2021 @ 6:10 pm
I have always found it off-putting that the “Highwomen” gave themselves that name. There is no way that the likes of Maren Morris should be mentioned in the same breath as Cash, Kris, Willie, Waylon…the whole project seemed (to some extent) ego-driven and self-important to me. Maybe I’m wrong but that was how it came across to me. Sunny Sweeney and Rhiannon Giddens are a million times better than Maren Morris.
Isbell and Price and company are insufferable. I can’t stand them. I’m a tree hugging socialist that loves Omar and AOC so that must mean something.
February 10, 2021 @ 10:14 pm
I better add Sarah Shook to that list. She fucking rocks
February 11, 2021 @ 8:16 am
If Isbell and Morris are insulting you then you know you have picked the correct road.
Woke warriors never miss an opportunity to point out all the flaws of their opponents while lacking the same critical eye on themselves.
They are modern day Pharisees.
February 11, 2021 @ 8:18 am
update
Jason Isbell is channeling his profit from Morgan Wallen’s latest album toward something good.
After Wallen’s January album Dangerous spent a fourth week atop the Billboard 200 chart — amid controversy following the country singer’s use of a racial slur — Isbell decided to donate the money he’s made off the album for Wallen’s cover of his own “Cover Me Up” to the NAACP.
“So… A portion of this money goes to me, since I wrote ‘Cover Me Up,'” Isbell, 42, tweeted. “I’ve decided to donate everything I’ve made so far from this album to the Nashville chapter of the @NAACP.”
February 11, 2021 @ 8:26 am
This all could have been avoided by country music if the gatekeepers in Nashville didn’t sell out to promote talentless hacks like Wallen.
Oh, maybe too if the N word wasn’t allowed to circulate via media. It is funny. They want the words to correctly go away but it is still allowed to be used in a musical genre that is the largest in the nation. Every area from rural to city listens to rap/hip-hop. No wonder the word won’t disappear.
I don’t know about others but I don’t like something I avoid doing it or saying it. Not say it then complain when other people use it as well. Can’t have your Kate and Edith too.
February 11, 2021 @ 12:51 pm
Ode to Morgan Wallen
May you find forgiveness within
Of the person in your skin
Redemption hides behind no mask
God forgives us when we ask
Atoned, you have accepted blame
Now, don’t let it sign your name
Why is it that we first do wrong
And then bear the scar too long?
Learning from mistakes is hard
Living beyond them, God’s reward
Endeavor as we may, we fail
No one walks a sinless trail
February 11, 2021 @ 8:52 pm
On the iTunes top 100 list today are about ten of this guy’s songs. Wouldn’t be surprised if this is all a well orchestrated PR stunt.
February 24, 2021 @ 10:03 am
So many of Country’s women are racist .Who knew ? (Maddie and Tae “Girl[s] In A Country Song” ,are you among these Karens ?)
December 8, 2021 @ 9:14 am
I get a get what Morgan Wallen did and it was wrong I mean he is paying for it and we are all humans and we are not perfect. No one except god and if yall know that then shut up see your mistakes and learn from them.
December 8, 2021 @ 9:28 am
If Morgan DOSE learn,Sadie .As my dearly departed mother used to counsel my sisters and me about slip-ups ,” Once is a mistake,twice an intention.”
December 8, 2021 @ 9:32 am
Hopefully,three other handsome older black cowboys and I can start a group called “the Highbrahs.” (I sing and write Country lyrics.)